>tfw Hellboy will never re-join the B.P.R.D.

He's had a hard life, let him rest.

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>>89332595

why?

Honestly the chances of the B.P.R.D. making it to the end are pretty slim anyway.

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>>89332904
He's not resting. He's in mexico, drinking!

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I really didn't expect that monkey with the gun to be the one who sends him to hell...

>>89333037
Why does Liz look more like forgman than Abe?

>>89332971
Hellboy in mexico is definitely one my favorites. Anything with the baba yaga is good too.

Did Hellboy ever have a girlfriend in comics?

>>89334012
'Cause Guy Davis draws weird stuff.

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>>89334805
Girlfriend

>>89334805
Alice, who was a baby taken by the fae and returned to her parents by Hellboy. She ended up gaining immortality by her bond with the fae and helped him after he left the bureau, leading up to his death. Now she's some guardian spirit for England

>>89334929
>he knew her as a baby

A bit creepy, t-b-h

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>>89334929
And a wife.

>>89332595
He spent most of his life there and left for legitimate reasons, I'm comfortable with his decision.

>>89333061
>>89333075
I want to hug him. I need to find Perlman and make him put on the make-up.

>>89334952
Hey at least he didn't think marriage was a food.

>>89334952

Kind of amusingly ironic how its his wife, who hellboy saw his union with as a curse/risk for his life, end up being the very thing that allow him to fulfill his fated duty by controlling him when it came to do the ''thing''.

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>>89334992
We need more stories featuring Kid Hellboy.

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new winter special this week

>>89334061
D'you think Hellboy in Mexico (the trade, not the story) will get collected in a library edition?

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>>89335252
Gun b good

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>>89335242

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atleast we have hellboy and the B.P.R.D. although I feel like it's been lacking lately

>>89335309
Adorable, yet terribly sad considering where it led.

>>89335242
Nah, they make me feel bad for the kid. Plus you had all of Midnight Circus and BPRD 1948.

>>89335346
Well, they won't make me feel any worse than the ending of In Hell.

>>89335311
>goggles and a punching glove
Okay that's pretty creative.

>>89335370
Could've ended with Hellboy losing himself or being corrupted in some way. He did what needed to be done, and walked out of it without giving into the fate everyone had thrown at him.

Any ideas what this new cycle of B.P.R.D. stuff will be about?

>>89335139
He's still got a heroic charge of the dead brigade to lead. I hope the writers remember to include that.

>>89334805

In the canon novels he had a girlfriend archeologist in the 80s.

>>89337025

I figure by the time we get there the truth of Edward Grey will be known, and the difference between Hell and Earth will be very thin indeed.

>>89336440
Will Arcudi still write it? Cause he better be

>>89337904

Nope. He retired from BPRD. He told them two years ago actually. Gave them plenty of time to find a new guy for the final cycle, and he finished off Hell on Earth. I have no idea if he's still dabbling in Lobster Johnson or anything at all. I don't think so.

Chris Roberson is handling it now. He's done the most recent Witchfinder mini, Hellboy and the BPRD, the Exorcism arc from BPRD, and maybe something else? I forget.

He'll be doing the Visitor mini starting in January with a prelude in the Winter Special, about the alien from Conqurer Worm. That seems to be the prelude to the third cycle.

>>89335269
I dont think so anon at least i boughtmy trade thinking that it wont

>>89338104
So the third cycle will be aliens?

>>89338104

Oh and Roberson also did the Rise of the Black Flame mini. I thought that was good with the right tone.

I think he's still got a bit of warming up to do, but he's certainly getting there.

So where is hellboy now ?

>>89338127
In Hell will at least, right?

>>89338104
Roberson is doing everything now actually

>>89338136

I doubt that's the focus. At the least we're getting information on what the aliens were all about. And I'm hoping the Visitor himself will be added to the field team.

I'm thinking a roster of Liz, Abe, Visitor, Howards, and maybe Strode or another of the built up normal field agents. That seems like a good mix, right?

>>89338185
I think the alien died anon

>>89338176

Thanks. I wasn't sure. Shit, so BPRD, Visitor, Witchfinder, Lobster Johnson, Hellboy and the BPRD. That's a lot of responsibility to be plopped on one man. Granted two... maybe three of these happen a month.

I know that he'll be working closely with Mignola and Allie, with varying degrees of input from them depending on the character and arc. I know they're still working from a loose but fluctuating master plan. But that's still such a shift.

>>89338232

He's getting an entire mini man. And what does dead mean when we had Johann as a field agent for well over a hundred issues?

>>89338165
Most certainly anon, not sure they gonna name it vol7 tho

>>89338272
Mortal status isn't really an issue at this point.

>>89338272
But its in the past anon, he died in conqueror worm in the 90's so he cant join the other folks

>>89338127
>>89338165

I suspect Hellboy in Mexico and Midnight Circus and the new graphic novel will eventually form another Library Edition or two. Don't forget, turns out his weird drunken bender marriage is important, since it turns up in In Hell.

(Actually should they include Frankenstein Underground? That'd be neat.)

We now know OGN's end up in trades... eventually. So, it's a waiting game.

>>89338347
So Hellboy in Mexico, Midnight Circus and Into the Shining Sea? That could work.

>>89338311

He did die? I... forgot. Still, I don't know man, maybe he's not the only one on Earth, maybe he's not dead due to some weird fuckery, I don't know.

I'll say he's no longer on my mental roster for the field team, but I hope something happens.

I knew the mini was in the past, with each issue covering at least a decade. I just figured it would go up to the present, and not.... when he died. Oops.

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>>89338185
I think the visitor was the story of the alien that died in Conqueror Worm.

GENTLEMEN

BPRD is entering it's final arc. It could be around 70 issues easy going by past trends.

Can they pull this vast web of strings together? Will Hellboy show back up one final time in a cataclysmic ending? Will Sir Edward Grey actually be explained and matter? Will Devon stop being a little shit?

>>89335311
>although I feel like it's been lacking lately
Not at all, it's been giving a great deal of information about the history of the mignolaverse

>>89338405

Yeah I forgot he died and wasn't just.... visiting. I haven't read Conqueror Worm in years.

I've been wanting to crack open my Library Editions and read it all again, but I'm lazy and can't decide if I just want to reread everything. And if I do, what kind of order.

>>89335311

You call it lacking while posting a really fun character driven page that highlights the inherit weirdness of how mundane Hellboy is in their world?

>>89338439
1. I hope so
2. Maybe
3. Yes and maybe
4. No

>>89338439
>>89338509

I miss when Devon had to hide in a phone booth from werewolf dogs.

>>89338162
Sitting alone in a house, somewhere in the deserted hell

>>89338162
Resting until his people need him, for never shall the King of Britain abandon his realm.

>>89338571

The unfair sadness of that makes me think Hellboy may be the only time I'm kind of okay with a universal reset ending. A way for him to get some of what he deserves for what he's put up with.

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sell me on hellboy please,
I watched the first movie when I was younger and it was really interesting.
then I saw the second but I thought it had lost something. (I fucking love esoterism, pic related is cool too.)

what comics should I read first ?
Is there multiple autors ?

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>>89338868
Yes there are multiple authors and artists, you start with Seed of Destruction. Here's a guide, someone else will sell you on it I'm sure.

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I've made some progress on the anotated timeline I've been working on, I made it up to the 80s.
https://www.sutori.com/story/mignolaverse
When I'm done with the main stuff I'll go through and add things from this one.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4MMj9x9kl6iY3ZZR3o4dTVCa00/view

>>89338946
The things in the background look really similar to stuff I've seen on Berserk.

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>>89338905
thanks! have a funny

>>89338868

Start with Seed of Destruction, the first Hellboy arc. If it's not exactly great, at least read the second, Wake the Devil too. People have varying opinions on Seed of Destruction. At the time Mignola hadn't written anything, so he had John Byrne do the heavy lifting for writing. From then on he did it all himself and it turns out he's a great writer. I have no problem with Seed, but eh, fair warning.

And all Hellboy titles are either written by Mike Mignola, or cowritten/plotted by him. Basically all 100% Hellboy titles are him solo, usually on art. He's done a few others like Frankenstein Underground solo, but for the most part BPRD and others are cowritten by people. Mostly John Arcudi until recently. They've all been edited by Scott Allie too. So between Mignola and Allie there's a tight editorial flow throughout all the books.

I'm sure somebody will post the very large master image of a good proper reading order, as the series come out spread all over the timeline, yet they're best read in the order published due to what they assume you know and what they hint at in the near future of core "present" books like BPRD or such.

The actual comics are more serious than the film. Bit more noir and gothic I guess? Mike Mignola pulls from an insane amount of sources. British, Slavic, Russian, Japanese, South American, African, Celtic, etc etc mythology has all played a roll, all mixed with a healthy does of Lovecraft, Robert E Howard, and I dare say Jack Kirby.

>>89338946
Neat!

>>89339009
>and I dare say Jack Kirby
This is no secret.

>>89338905

The way this separates the Fegredo trilogy just really irritates me. Sure all of that was published between those bits... but really? Come on!

>>89339054

I know. I don't know why I phrased it like that, but I did. The "dare say" should have been Howard, as his influence only pops up for Hyperborian flashbacks.

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>>89339009
>The actual comics are more serious than the film. Bit more noir and gothic I guess? Mike Mignola pulls from an insane amount of sources. British, Slavic, Russian, Japanese, South American, African, Celtic, etc
that's exactly what I'm looking for. thank you.

>>89338439
The only thing I want from the third cycle is Devon dying

>>89339115

The films were perhaps the panel to screen adaptation that managed to stray furthest from the source material while maintaining enough about it to feel like an adaptation, yet still being their own thing.

I like them. I think most Hellboy fans like them. Damn near all the casting is impeccable. But Hellboy does act like a manchild in them for some reason, and Abe like a stuffy officious bookworm. It's weird, but it worked. I have to admit I do read Hellboy and the Professor and sometimes Abe and Johann in the voices from the films.

>>89339009
>British, Slavic, Russian, Japanese, South American, African, Celtic, etc etc mythology has all played a roll, all mixed with
Not just all those but he also weaves in obscure 1800s literature and stuff into the history of the world in seamless ways. I mean shit, the sigils for the demons are their actual ones from the Ars Goetia.

>>89339205

Oh yeah. It's amazing how often I'll do a quick googling of a throw away name and find it's a real occultist from the 18th century or the like. The way he weaves together fact and fiction is some of the most seamless in this genre I think.

>>89339252
So far the only named demon that isn't in the Goetia is Iblifika. Not to mention the real world connection between vril and neo-nazism.

>>89339234
For some reason, Lobster Johnson sounds like the Crimson Chin in my head.

>>89339198
I think everyone hears Hellboy in Ron Perlman's voice now. It's obvious he loved the part, and fits really well.

>>89339375

Fun story. I was wearing my BPRD shirt and my dad asked me if it was a Nazi symbol.

Yeah. Yeah that was awkward.

>>89339462

Bruce Campbell recorded a voice pack for the 360 game to play as the Lobster in DLC. It got scrapped.

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>>89339520
He was also supposed to play him in the third animated movie that never got made
>>89339482
I had a fun theory about the BPRD symbol. So the Howard's fanboys turned it into a symbol of Gal Dennar's sword, but it could very well be based on it. Professor Bruttenholm was huge fan of Sir Edward Grey and had copies of his journals. He could have used it as inspiration for the symbol when creating the BPRD

>>89338481
1952 and 1953 were good but 1954 has been very mediocre

>>89339630

I think you're right about the symbol's inspiration. It's all circular, which fits.

(Is Gal Dennar's sword the same one Edward Grey found in that one arc? I'm not sure about the chain of custody, and I haven't read that stuff since it came out.)

>>89339630

It would be neat if Dark Horse released the modded symbol as a shirt too.

And a Lobster Johnson shirt too I guess. That could be fun.

>>89339670
Yes, they are the same sword. Grey was last seen with it when he disapeared fighting the Heliopic Brotherhood of Ra and Howard's found it in a Brotherhood hide out.

>>89339722

That's a notation from the Companion, right? It has to be. I read that cover to cover, and it had most of the Brotherhood's history which was still not in the comics. And I think it's still largely missing.

>>89339670
>>89339747

To highlight how thick I am, and the problems I have reading all of this as it comes out and not going back too often, I didn't notice that Iosif leader of the Russian BPRD group was the guy from that Abe Sapien two parter. It took me like an arc and a half in BPRD for that to click.

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>>89339747
No, they showed Edward Grey disapearing in Hellboy in Hell 004 while they were summoning Amdusias. Also it was my mistake, it was Knights of the Silver Star which are an offshoot of the HBR.

>>89339234
Did it work?

>>89339870

God damn it Mignola left so much story untold it's as frustrating as possible.

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>>89339902
No

>>89339905
I don't know it makes it feel like a real world.

>>89335242
As a cultist of Faceless Ancient Horrors, I can confirm that consumption of Pamcakes is indeed a terrible and dark deed that pledges ones alliance to the physical world of Flesh Mortality.

>>89338138
I didn't like it that much. While it was interesting to see who was the original Black Flame and his wife before the transformation i don't really think it need the 5 issues to tell the story.

>>89340211

It could have illuminated more about the cult around the Black Flame and what the origins were, sure. I think it was a fairly well done mini though. If the intent is to take the three main survivors and have them in another mini or two, the extend build up of their characters will be fully justified. I doubt that myself though.

>>89339198
John Hurt was dead on as the Professor. IIRc Mignola noted that his performance made him regret killing him off so early.

The films are very much Del Toro's Hellboy, so they carry his own style of Fairytales.

>>89340289
It did teach us more about Shakti.

>>89338455
i think anon was talking about the writing problems. I also think hellboy and the bprd has been great as an information dump, but writing wise, its not all good. For example, for me rise of the black flame was going great, until they fight the cultist on the temple and the officer stayed behing to give the crew time to escape. His death felt weird, the other character reacting to his death felt weird, it really broke the story for me. On the other hand, i really liked the new sir edward story, it brought something that was lacking on the witchfinder stories, that "fuck yeah" moment it was missing. Im mostly talking about Roberson's writing, since he's taking his first steps

>>89338946
this is great good job anon

>>89340665
Really? Thanks, I've put a lot into it

>>89340727
yeah it shows. Have not seen this type of timeline for the mignolaverse anywhere else, so this may help a lot of people after those first readings when all the information feels confusing and these timelines help clarify what you read

>>89340843
The only problem is its all going to fall apart in the mid 2000s.

>>89334061
>baba yaga

John?

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>>89341550
Yes, my name is John, where is Baba Yaga or big red man t hanks

>>89340940

Why?

They still insist everything is happening in chronological order to reality. Granted Hellboy in Hell will be hard, but that's dream like. We just know it ends before Vavara and Iosif visit.

>>89341968
Things get a little muddled around then, with all the concurrent series and time being weird for Hellboy in Hell.

>>89339119
"Guys, I know there are abyssal terrors running about, but have you considered that the fish-man might be the devil?"

>>89339234
The Lobster doesn't fuck around, man.

>>89339252
What bothers me is that in Plague of Frogs, they go to Crab Point, Michigan. And in the sketchbooks in back, Guy Davis is credited as being from Crab Point, too. But Google Maps doesn't show a Crab Point in Michigan. Am I being tricked?

>>89334980
This desu, A+ husbando.

>>89339780
Abe Sapien and Iosif met, before BPRD?
What?

>>89343100
Iosif was the zombie in that submarine that Abe was exploring.

>>89343100
Vavara sent Iosif on a mission in a submarine in 1948. It sunk and he "died". Later in 1984 Abe was sent on a mission to recover the artifact Iosif was transporting. After retrieving it, Iosif rose out of the sea as a decaying corpse and was handed over to the Russians

>>89342900

Hurm. It's possible it's a local colloquial name for an area, and so it won't show up on Google Maps. Find a map of your town, I almost guarantee you'll find weird names for areas of the town that are relics of other times. The two or three towns in New York I've lived in have been like that.

Or you were fucked with.

G-Guys, I need to ask... I just finished with the Abe Sapien series and there was this one story at the end where he ended up in a town where a giant ogdru hem that sprouted out of the lake/river and the tidal wave killed a lot of people...

There was this one girl there who was fishing for pokemon I think was the term they used for the mutated fish they caught... I can't remember her name clearly, "Autumn" I think?

Did... Did she really die?

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Since Arcudi's left I'm somewhat concerned about the future of the Mignolaverse. He's contributed a lot to the whole thing (we owe Iosif, Varvara and Johann's characterizations to him, alongside Daryl and Daimio and many, many others), and Chris Roberson's works have mostly been lackluster in my opinion.

Especially Exorcist, which felt more like a, dare I say it, 'pandering to the audience' comic. Cool lesbian girl quips while fighting demons. Doesn't feel as human as Arcudi's characters, and the constant 'monologues', and the way the guy makes the stories, I think kind of takes away from BPRD's charm.

Just concerned.

>>89344191
Probably did. Kind of is a plot point from what I remember.

>>89343254
>>89343399
Ah yes, there was an entire series of BPRD I'm missing. I still haven't read anything between Daimo's death and the radio station story in Russia. I don't know which issues I'm missing and never got around to fixinf that.

>>89344649

Well those issues were in an Abe Sapien series. So you're missing some Abe stuff too.

I'm trying to find issues for you buy my internet connection is acting very weird right now. I'm concerned.

>>89344721
Oh, it's totally fine Anon. I have the megalink for the entire Mignolaverse. I'm just being lazy. I might be missing like 1 issue between a hundred read issues.

>>89344417
Son of a bitch...

that really breaks my heart. Most of the people I've seen die in Hellboyverse mostly had it coming or is of little consequence. But damn that girl deserved better. Her and those children that ere most likely murdered during that story where this guy resurrects agent whatshisname as a zombie minion.

>>89344649
Daimio died in #90, radio station story is 105.

You missed the Devil's Engine, Return of the Master, Abyss of time and maybe a few one-shots.

>>89345824

Return of the Master and Abyss of Time were roughly speaking, the shit.

The solicit trolling for Return of the Master was aces.

>>89345864
I honestly thought they were going to bring Rasputin back, but was rather surprised as to what did happen.

>>89346105

Hey, they did send out fake covers to Previews to mess with us.

>>89346487
I would have been a little perturbed about bringing Rasputin back, since Baba Yaga used up the very last of him in desperation to kill Hellboy in Darkness Calls.

>>89347506
Well, she didn't use the last of him. He was going to be used but it was thrown down. Not that it did matter, the guy was practically nothing at that point.

>>89347591
Yeah, just had to re-read that. Can't believe I've missed that EVERY time.

>>89347591
Even as nothing, though, the Baba Yaga's servant deemed him enough trouble to defy his master and throw him into Hell to save everyone from the trouble. Who knows how it'd have gone with Rasputin.

I stopped reading after hellboy died and went to hell. Is he out yet?

>>89347864
He's currently residing in a nice house in a mostly empty Hell.

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do y'all have links to the bprd stuff? This is what I have currently

>>89347756
It was a shame that Hellboy didn't meet Rasputin in hell....

>>89347930
empire-dcp-minutemen-scan.blogspot. com/2015/04/hellverse-hellboy-bprd-abe-sapien.html

Erase the space. I'm not sure how many links are still valid, but I pulled a ton off of this last year.

>>89347933
It's a shame that he didn't do many things in Hell, but, well, we should be content with what we've gotten.

>>89347930
You can rip from online viewing sites, if that helps. That's what I do often with DownThemAll.