Do you believe that you deserve to go to Heaven?

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>>89299443
I mean, I haven't done anything particularly wrong, but on the flip side I've never really done much good either.
Maybe it'd be better for everyone if I just disappeared, not like much would change.

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>>89299443
Yes. Cause I wanna fuck some angels

>>89299443
I want to fuck your face.

>>89299482
Wow, really fires up those neurons.

>>89299443
No; in fact I honestly think you should curse me with unending life desu.

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>>89299503
You sure about that?

>>89299443
I don't believe anything. I just know I'm utterly terrified of nonexistence.

I don't deserve anything.

>>89299482
Really makes you think...

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>>89299541
I know that feel bro, maybe if we're lucky we'll die tragically and find out the hard way that ghosts are real

>>89299443
I'm pretty sure I don't deserve to go to hell. Does that get you into heaven by default?

>>89299443
I was born cursed.
But ironically I'm seen as a blessing to many people I meet.
If there's any justice in the universe my living Hell will not become the Hell of the afterlife.

>>89299482
Hello,Timmy Turner.

>>89299443
Look, I have my - -ing potato. I get to be - -ing reincarnated.

I'm a pretty sick minded individual, but I've never really DONE anything bad. If anything I probably let people walk all over me more than I should.

I don't know if I deserve either Heaven or Hell. I'd settle for limbo.

>>89299443
>Anger issues
>Procrastinates a lot
>Has sexual fetishes
>Consumes pornography occasionally
>Stopped going to Church out of apathy
>Swears a lot
>Too much of a coward when dealing with social situations at times
>Occasional liar
>Pessimistic and self-hating on oneself
Gee I wonder...

>>89299443
Sure If I can manage to pray to Jebus at the last minute.

>He fell for the Heaven meme

>>89299443
>inplying i want to be foribly filled with jesuss gooey love for eternity

>>89299443
No, because heaven doesn't exist. It's a made up place to make the illiterate masses oblige to follow orders from an authority figure and keep them in control.

>>89299443
I made my peace with the fact that I'll likely stop existing when I die a long time ago.

>>89299443

>Eternal perfect happiness
>Eternal complete sorrow

How could anyone 'deserve' either?

>>89300268
*tips fedora*
*embraces Hegelianism*
*defers to the bootmaker*

>>89299443
I haven't really done anything morally wrong in my life.
But I'm not a believer anyways.

>>89299503

Why does it have a belly button?

>>89299541

...Are you terrified of sleeping, too? Every night I close the door on my room, I draw the curtain; I get into bed, I turn off the light and I go to sleep.
And for seven or eight hours, I don't exist. Since nobody knows whether I am alive or dead because I am inside a closed room and I don't interact with anybody, I am 'dead to the world'. For seven or eight hours, my consciousness, the part of me which I consider the 'real me', is simply nonexistent. I dream a few minutes every hour-and-a-half or so, but that's hardly consciousness.
Bottom line: every day, for at least a few hours, you "experience" nonexistence. There is absolutely nothing to fear about it. As Epicurus said: you're alive or dead; when you're alive, death is not here, when death is here, you are not. So what is there to fear?

>>89301581
Not worshipping the correct God is seen as morally wrong in a lot of religions.

So that's a one way ticket to hell for ya, if you believe in that sorta stuff.

>>89301590
Well If I were god I would make all the angels hot as hell.

>>89299611

At least you can think and read and write... that's something.

>>89299710

As French fries?

>>89299752

Kinda like me.

>Get to Limbo
>Everybody there is that same type
>People say "Excuse me" and "sorry" a lot
>It's kind of boring, but really not that bad

>>89301612
So Limbo is Canada?

That's okay.

>>89299931

Sexual fetishes can keep you out of Heaven?! Shiiiiiiiiit...

>>89300268

No, but hypothetically. Ethically speaking, would you say you would deserve to go to the hypothetical Heaven?

>>89301610

The first thing pretty much any angel says in the Bible is "Fear not". Or let's say "Don't be afraid". That doesn't bode well.

>>89299443

No. Heaven is for other people. I'll just get what I get and assume it's what I deserved.

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Free will is a myth. Religion is a joke. We are all pawns of something even greater: memes, the DNA of the soul. They shape our will. They are the culture. They are everything we pass on.

>>89301558

Well generally people that don't deserve heaven don't go to hell. They just die. They cease to be. They are no more.

>>89301634
Do you deserve to go to meme hell, which is coincidentally the exact same as meme heaven?

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>>89301630
>The first thing pretty much any angel says in the Bible is "Fear not". Or let's say "Don't be afraid". That doesn't bode well.

Hmmm?

>>89301644
Where'd you learn your theology, m8?

>>89301645

Memes are who we are. These ideas we share and pass on, they are what a soul truly is.

>>89301612

Limbo is still pretty bad. It's suffering until you properly repent for your sins. Your sins are burnt away. In fire. It's not just hanging around doing nothing for eternity.

>>89301630
I know classic angels were weird and ugly looking, but fuck that depiction.
God's got shit taste.

>>89301644
We can't know that for sure man.

The last time heaven put out their import of souls report was twenty years ago. And you know how hell always fudges their numbers to get increase their budget.

Don't even get me started on limbo. Obviously that's just a front company that processes souls into the white stuff between oreos.

Like Heaven really exists. We are all going to rot and be nothing after we die. Deal with that.

>>89299536
I can worknit out.

>>89301665
Like "man or woman, b-b-but they have wings and a halo" is the pinnacle of imagination.

Give me "rings with a thousand eyes" and "twenty wings folding in on themselves" any day.

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>>89299443
Absolutely fucking not! I aint done nothing monstrous, but I'll be fucked if I'm not a shitty person. So why the hell would I want to share a place with Mr. Rogers and ruin it for those who are actually worthy?

>>89301685

But if you rot you are still something. Conservation of mass after all. And if we are nothing but our consciousness then perhaps our matter can once again form into another consciousness. Another you in a bygone age. That at least is something to look forward to.

>>89299443
I dunno.
Stopped thinking about death since theres no point in it.

Maybe. Not yet at least.

>>89301696
Who cares about imagination?

>>89301630
>Fear not
Not that anon but mate I wack it to xeno porn on a regular basis. Big angelic cock rings with eyes are hardly that freakish compared to an enormous betitted xenoqueen that served as my gateway.

>>89301706
That's not how it works. That's not how any of it works.

>>89301736

Sure it is. You're made up of many tiny thing. Those many tiny things will go into other things. Over a long enough time they might come back together again. If they do then it's a whole new you.

>>89301721
I do. Can't you read?

>>89301751
>you

No. Even if the matter was reconfigured into a perfect facsimile it would still not be me.

>>89301753
Can you?

>>89301800
Can I?

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>>89301634

If you are correct, then religion is the inevitable product of the development of sentience. Can't really call it a joke.

Maybe all of this is simpy a necessary stage of development.

Personally I have always viewed suicide as evidence that free will is real: if the desperate consciousness could not override whatever invisible mental forces inside us control us, how could we kill ourselves? I assume, of course, that our memetic heritage would want to survive.

>>89301664

That's Purgatory. Not Limbo. Limbo is precisely hanging around doing nothing for eternity.

>>89301731
>an enormous betitted xenoqueen

That sounds familiar...

>>89301806
Can you?

Let's take it to a different level: what is Heaven to you?

>>89301793

Sure you would be. You just might not remember being you but you'd still be you. Can you really say that you remember every moment of your life? Were you any less you in the moments that you can't remember? Are you any less you now? You'd be you but a different you. A you that would get to experience new and exciting things. Things you probably can't even imagine now. A you that has a chance to grow up to not be a cynical asshole.

>>89301822

A single day. Senior year of high school.

>>89301822
The American Dad depiction would be ideal.

>>89301706
That is a pretty interesting view.

>>89301822
The non-existence of you.

>>89299443
>Do you believe that you deserve to go to Heaven?

No, but I do not in anyway what so ever believe I deserve to go to Hell.
I deserve to be sent to Purgatory with the rest of the neutral people.

>>89301818
Can I what?

>>89301898
I hate these filthy neutrals. With hell goers you know where they stand, but with neutrals? Who knows?

It sickens me.

>>89301910
Can you?

>>89301940
Can I?

>>89301877

Me specifically? But I'm such a nice guy!

>>89301898
>>89301930

Neutral people don't go to Purgatory, they go to the vestibule of Hell, because neither Hell nor Heaven wants them.

>>89301966
Can you?

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>>89302012
RADDA RADDA!

>>89302020
RADDA RADDA?

>>89302020
>>89302025

This is the strangest metaphor for gay sex I've ever heard.

>>89302025
Yes. Yes I can.

>>89302036
We both know that is a lie.

>>89302037
But can you really though?

>>89301822
Those wonderful moments just before I fall asleep and just after I have woken up.

I wouldn´t want go. I don´t know what heaven is supposed to be, because i don´t believe in the perfection it promises. it´s just bait.
I want to keep my mind and find peace, that´s something you do living.
Imagine being dead and some dudes coming up to you and tell you: "welcome. this is heaven, your pure mind like ours helps sustaining the place"
I´d be all like fuck that, I´ve been trying and struggling and crying and screaming for what? to keep up a facade for someone else? nah dudes, I´m gonna be my own god, my mind will be my own heaven and if you try to fuck with that it´s all out war. I want to be left alone by the likes of you.
over exaggeration end.

>>89299443
I don't believe anyone really deserves anything, all meaning we attach to our actions is of our invention and is primarily there to make our lives tolerable.

I suppose by most moral standards I'm fine enough and if entrance into heaven is based on them I should get in.

>>89301630
>The first thing pretty much any angel says in the Bible is "Fear not". Or let's say "Don't be afraid".

This happens like twice, or maybe even once, in the entire Biblical canon. Fuck this meme, it's not even remotely true.

>>89301665
Fuck this meme too. Every single messenger angel in the Bible is either humanoid or not really described in detail. You only start getting to the bizarre six wings shit when you get to the upper echelons of hallucinogen-inspired bullshit that people mostly imagined as sitting around Yahweh like a court.

There are even instances in the Bible where people aren't sure whether they've spoken to an angel, because they just look like dudes.

Yes Ophanim and Seraphim are cool but they're not the 'real McCoy' or the 'originals' or anything. They're likely later inventions than the humanoid angels, which are very obviously evolutions of winged humanoid figures from Zoroastrianism and older Babylonian religions - like almost fucking everything in the Abrahamic canon.

>>89301634

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gmzay5oAwOM

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>>89299443
You got it wrong, lady. I will bring Heaven for everyone.

>>89302280

Don't forget the word 'angel' just means 'messenger', so in several instances it could literally have been a human being rather than a heavenly spirit.

I will have to check on the whole "fear not" thing though. I shouldn't spread misinformation.

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>>89299536
yes

>>89301822
Cuddling with him, his head on my chest, listening to him sleeping peacefully while the rain pours outside the window

I would love if death was like her, just a stranger that becomes more intimate than anyone in your life. Someone that understand it all, you and your life, the universe and all the meanings. Someone that have no hurry, and will be there for you, no matter what.

>>89303494

That sounds pretty sweet.

>>89299536
Hell yeah.
>imagine a four way blowjob from a cherub.

>>89303494
The certainty that there something bigger than everything that is, and you are a part of that. No negative emotions, just a calming release of the positive ones, until they all fade away, carrying you along with them.

Death is absolutely safe, it's like taking off a tight shoe after a day of work.

>>89299443
everybody that isn´t a lefty deserves to got to heaven

>>89303766
fuck you. southpaw pride universe-wide!

So... which comic depiction of Hell and/ or Heaven do we like best?

I personally am partial to 'Jack'.

>>89303777
You're a freak anon, an abomination of nature with no place among the righteous handed.

Yes, because I have not hurt anybody, or through my inaction allowed anybody to get hurt that wasn't asking for it.

Now if there was only any evidence at all of an afterlife.

>>89304261
W-what about my special snowflake kind, the ambidexterous?

>>89304311

Interesting variation on the First Law.

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>>89299443
>I plan to live forever, of course, but barring that I'd settle for a couple thousand years. Even five hundred would be pretty nice.
— CEO Nwabudike Morgan, MorganLink 3D-Vision Interview

>>89304314
You just better watch which hand you grab things with half-breed.

>>89299443
No cause when i die that is the end. At least i fucking hope so

>>89301621
>So Limbo is Canada
Well some places are, yes. I grew up in a town of 500. It was limbo and still is when i go back, nothing changes

>>89301706
Did you get your science degree from comics?

>>89299443
I'm an atheist, so I guess not.

Unless of course there is a God after all, and he's into irony.

>>89299482
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqZXPX0CiQI

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>>89299443

nO, i JUST BELIEVE A LOT OF PEOPLE SHOULD BE WITH ME IN hell

>>89301816
>Personally I have always viewed suicide as evidence that free will is real: if the desperate consciousness could not override whatever invisible mental forces inside us control us, how could we kill ourselves?

I take it as evidence against free will actually. Not good evidence but whatever.

Natural selection doesn't work that way though, species don't always just get better, there is a lot of randomness and sometimes bad genes get passed on. Hence why a lot of species end up going extinct cause they passed on a deficiency like poor digestion or heat management. Also, there are side effects of all things. Our big brains cost us a fucking lot and i am surprised himans didn't go extinct when were were developing them and learning tools. Mental illnesses come aling with the benefit of being smart.

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>>89299931

Other than the church bit you're me.

We'll get along... together.... forever....

>>89299443
Isnt the general rule that no one deserves to and its Big Daddy God and Big Daddy God Jr gift to us to let us in if we believe they can save us and live accordingly what his world demands?

>>89304728
Kind of. Mankind was tainted from the start by the original sin (though Adam & Eve), so we have to live on the Earth with pain and suffering and hard labor. Then Jesus died to redeem our sins, which wiped the slate clean. So now we get to live in the afterlife paradise of Heaven if we accept his sacrifice.

>>89304678

True. It's a miracle (sic) it goes right as often as it does.

>>89304835

At least that is what most Christians believe.

>>89299443
Hell no I don't.
I don't think anyone here does either.

>>89299443
I'm a good person, and am kind to basically every person I meet. If I have to deal with an angry client over the phone, we're usually on good terms within 2 minutes or less. I put away other people's shopping carts that they leave in the lot because I feel bad for the kid that has to get them, and I even apologize to bugs if I have to kill them. But I am pretty much completely revolting inside of my head. I would not let someone like me into heaven.