U.S.Avengers #2 Storytime

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>>89230386

claiming the toni everyone will love before everyone else

>>89230428
CAROL WAS FUCKING RIGHT.
If Tony Stark had had his way, THIS is what would have happened. Rhodey would have died anyway, and so would have everyone else. Fuck you Tony you self-righteous prick.

>>89230430
Screw you! I wanted her!
I just hope some fanartist makes a hoodie/pajama outfit for her that is her Iron Patriot suit pattern.

>>89230452
God damn! Toni is like a merger of Tracer and D.Va with Aikku her Mercy

>>89230452
>Faiza and Dane back together
>Faiza and Guillotine
I know it was just for one panel, but thank you Based Ewing.

>>89230472
It's amazing how much of a comic book-y way of clearing things up was.
>"But what if we hadn't used it? Would Rhodey still be--"
>"HI I'M CAPTAIN AMERICA FROM THE FUTURE AND FYI HE WOULD'VE DIED AND EVERYONE ELSE TOO!"

>>89230581
>toni and aikku not next to each other
not very progressive marvel

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>>89230467
>>Overwatch

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>>89230594
even Marvel publishes Batman and Superman comics now

>>89230472
Especially since there was no reason not to go. If Thanos doesn't show up, you lose nothing, if he does show up, you get to try and stop him. If you don't prepare and he does show up, this shit happens.
Tony was only right about not using Ulysses for Minority Report pre-justice, but Thanos is already a wanted criminal and an active threat.

Can you do Venom next OP?

I'm a maschocist

>>89230594
>Bryce Wyne
Bravo Ewing.

>>89230475
>Son of the Green Skull
kek

>Nephew of the Plunderer
So Ka-Zar's son?

>>89230755
DO FUCKING GAMORA NEXT!

>>89230529
>Kang's firewall in time
Wait what? When did that happen?

>>89230752
>Tony was only right about not using Ulysses for Minority Report pre-justice
Which wasn't his argument until after Carol started doing it.

>>89230804
She's from the future, Anon. It hasn't yet.

>>89230540
>SHIELD Helicarrier Douglass
What's this one named after?

>>89230804
It's a plotpoint in Waid's All-new All-different Avengers and Adjectiveless Avengers.

>>89230581
You never see a girl in tuxedo with the tail.

>>89230840
Nah, it has. It's been brought up in Waid's Avengers.

>>89230428
>>89230415
Is Thanos considered a Mary Sue? His powers are so vaguely defined and depending on who's writing him he tends to always the most powerful and smartest being in the room.

>>89230452
>Faiza, Dane, Teddy and Guillotine
This is the team I never knew I wanted.

>>89230568
>Buy Roxxon
Last I heard, Roxxon was in trouble because their floating island base was crashed and their CEO was arrested for attempted mass murder and for being a Minotaur monster, right?
It does seem like a good window to buy into the company and gain control of it for when it inevitably recovers.

>>89230467
Goddamn, Toni is hot.
Also, Doreen is cute.

>>89230883
Only when it's Starlin and if Adam Warlock isn't around.

>>89230428
>Cosmic Cube 'Iso-Gauntlets'
Snazzy.

>>89230883
Thanos only managed to pull this off by using Cosmic Cube powered gauntlets.

>>89230883

if you look off to the right and in the bleachers, you'll see his nemesis is still standing.

as long as Deadpool is around, there is still time for him to trip on his own face.

>>89230475
Revolutionary War?
Is that like an elseworld?
I mean obviously the Revolutionary War was the founding of America, but I don't recall Steve Rogers being there? Did he travel back in time again but not pretend to be a Native American this time?

>>89230883
He's got the usual strength, durability, and energy projection package (at levels that put him above the Silver Surfer), and is also a supergenius scientist. Ewing brought up he was a telepath, but that's an ability he's probably used all of three times in 50 years. He can usually be beaten in a physical fight if you get multiple of Earth's heaviest hitters.

>>89231035
Steve's ancestor, man.

>>89230540
I'm really loving the multi colored AIM goons

>>89230467
How big of a boner did Bendis get from this page?

>>89231149
>implying Bendis reads comics

Wasn't this out like just last week?

>>89230467
Oh. Joy.

>>89231038
At the end of the Infinity, none of the heroes were able to touch him when he was just regular Thanos and another of Hickman's OCs was needed to save the day by putting him in amber.

>>89230428
>Deadpool is still alive

>>89231168
Bendis is aware of Captain Ameica Dani Cage actually, she showed up in Jessica Jones.

>>89230507
>>89230908
S.W.O.R.D.-vengers, man. Make it happen.

>>89231241
>An "Agents of S.W.O.R.D." book where everyone actually has a sword
FUND IT

>>89230452
>FOUR magic uberpowerful swords stabbing him at the same time
Why is this so awesome?

>>89230635
Squirrel Girl looks really cute.

>>89230467
So long American Dream.

>>89230556
This feels more on-the-nose than the outright Trump parodies.

>>89230611
Toni is like 10 years older than Aikku, she's literally a superintelligent adult Asian nerd who's abusing a young Nordic teen for her sick robotic fetishes.

>>89231295
She said that all Danielle Cages become Captain America, she said nothing of based American Dream (who also has a different codename). Our blonde patriot with blue eyes is still a thing.

This issue felt REALLY slow considering the first one and the previous New Avengers series. It wasn't bad, but eh.

>>89230428
>>89230452
Tony was wrong.
Carol was right (at first).

>>89231075
But... Steve's from a family of immigrants.

>>89231218
Yeah, he's never THAT strong normally.

>>89231186
2 weeks. It double-shipped.

>>89230386
This shit again? Also, how long before Ewing becomes a hated writer? Or did it already happen?

>>89231378
Set up if nothing else.

I will say, this book really is the oddest cast for a team book because none of the characters are huge draws.

>>89231378
This shit sucks, son. Not even a Ewing faggot fanboy, but his New Avengers was heaps better by issue 2. Granted; I'm sure it has more to do with editorial not letting anyone write good comics at Marvlel anymore what with all the goddamn relaunches and event tie-ins.

>>89230511
>I am the Shield

Can hear Steve, Bucky, and Sam getting jellus from here.

>>89231480
I think one of the factors is that you knew the characters from New Avengers.

>>89231407
Yep. It's a weird one.

>>89230853
Unf on Doreen for sure.

>>89231296
If you think EVERY greedy villain is a Trump parody, that may be a personal issue.

>>89230594
>Bryce Wyne jokes instead of taking the opportunity to have the hosting billionaire be 616's Nighthawk
Booooo

>>89230594
First time I've ever read anything with Squirrel Girl in it where she feels like a part of the 616. Waid's done the impossible - he's made a one-joke character look like it belongs.

All hail Waid!

>>89230452
>somebody is actually using Guillotine
Fuck yeah!

>>89231483

Not really, after the inevitable reset, they'll still be bumping around as Captain America, Falcon, Winter Soldier etc.

>>89230529
>Expertise has value--here, it loses out to ideology
subtle

>>89230844
MacArthur?

>>89231540
the bait or not the bait? that is the question

>>89231512
The rhetoric in this issue is pretty clearly aimed at Trump. I'm not sure why it's not triggering the same reaction among his supporters as the parodies usually do, but maybe they just think too highly of him to see it.

>>89230844
Frederick?

>>89231473
New Avengers made Roberto into a draw for me. And the first issue here made the new Red Hulk into one as well. I really like Ewing's books generally but this one left me a bit >>89231480

The first issue did a half-dozen issues and it didn't feel badly paced at all. This feels slow and spare, which is like the complete opposite of the previous series and this one's issue 1.

>>89231454
Other than a small handful of shitposters, no, The Turn has yet to happen for Based Ewing. Once The Turn has finished running its course on Tom King, the eyes of the contrarians will probably be placed firmly on Ewing though.

>>89231599
Can't wait for this to happen. It was long overdue

>>89231593
Yeah, the pacing on this is pretty weak. Usually Ewing is a lot better about that.

>>89231567
I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be obvious that he's a pirate. Just look at how he and his goons dress.

>>89231567
It's definitely a bit more subtle than other parodies, Spencer most obviously

>>89230581
>women in suits
THANK YOU BASED EWING

>>89231593
Also it's an unusually low pitch from Ewing, anyone else feel that? In the first place we don't see Skull's world too much and we don't see the time travel. What we do is the massacred hero scene we've seen 100 times before. And then Golden Skull's scheme it's... pretty boring for a Ewing book honestly? It's some robot duplicates and even the pirates are pretty low key. The whole things feels not very energetic from the guy who did fucking Zombo.

Just gonna chalk it up to 'your guy can always miss'. And we might start getting crazy with traveling to GS's world and seeing more of it, then back and back again and vice versa. So maybe it is set-up.

>>89231540
>Waid
This is written by Ewing. Not Waid.

>>89231558
So we know what happened in their world and how well it worked out. Dodged a bullet on that one.

>>89231552
Well, considering it's Ewing that shouldn't be surprising. He did create her afterall.

>>89230500
Yohoho, not much booty to plunder, but a man's gotta take what he can get.

>>89231219

>expecting anything less

DP is literally his kryptonite.

>>89231504
What if, wuzn!T it?

>>89231552
I reeeeaaally want to see that Outlaw, Night Thrasher, Ares, Stick, Guillotine, White Fox team doing superhero shit in Europe man.

>>89230472
Tony was wrong from the start. Carol got retarded halfway through. Ultimately both were idiots. Either Blue Marvel or T'challa should have handled the situation. Even captain Hydra seems like a more reasonable option than either of those morons.

>>89230511
Why carry a shield if you're Zimmerman-proof, anyway?

>>89231781
For throwing.

>>89231781
To throw, Anon. She's Captain America, that comes with the title.

>>89230452
>The eternity war

I need updates, Ewing!

>>89230909
They have a base on Mars, a Space fleet and own the mineral rights to 2 separate realms of Asgard. Any stock dips they are experiencing mean it is a buyers market, they have the resources to rebound quite nicely. They have the mineral assets of 3 worlds in their possession.

>>89230452
>muh man Dane
>and in more classic costume
Damn, I love you, Ewing

>>89230610
What kind of cheapo card is that for a director?
Look how that thing bends!

>>89230428
>If they had used preventive justice, Dr Doom would have gotten his hands on Ulysses and control of the entire world.
>If they hadn't used preventive justice, Thanos would have destroyed the world
>The way things went, we got civil war II

lel
>>89230500
>Big guy

>>89230428
>Thanos killed all of Earth's heroes
>thinks he's good to go now
>he doesn't know that Dick is back and waiting in space to fuck him up

>>89230844
Going by the name I'd wager Frederick Douglass.

>>89230540
>RED WHITE AND BLUE

>>89232040
Rich didn't come back until after CWII. This is what would have happened in place of CWII had they not stopped Thanos. So by the time Rich came back, Thanos would have already been dealt with.

Sam-centric issue when?

>>89232104
Yeah, figured it later.

>>89232035
>>89232104
So in-universe, Civil War II started a fucking YEAR ago, and only JUST ended?

>>89231672
the point is we don't know YET. Yeah, he made a party of crazy robot millionaires but for what purpose? Where is the real party? What the fuck is going on?

>>89231599
I hate British comedy. And I despised him already.

>>89231796
>>89231816
I guess, but she could still hold a weapon.

>>89231407

Obviously they moved from America to Ireland then THEIR descendants moved back again later.

>>89232195
"Last year" just means 2016 as opposed to 2017. It doesn't mean exactly a year ago. We know USAvengers takes place while Trump is in office while CWII happened while Obama was in office.

>>89232236
Captain America uses a shield.

>>89230428
What if [CLASSIFIED] turns out to be Thanos actually getting his hands on all them yummy cosmic cubes?

When is Inifinity War meant to be in theatres? Because there's so gonna be a Thanos event synergizing with it.

>>89230452
>How do we stop Thanos?!?

>We stab him. We stab him with every magic sword we can find.

Needs more Magik/Pixie. And Nemesis from Alpha Flight.
And... uh... blanking now.

What other magic swords does Marvel have? I'm sure there are a few.

>>89230467
Sam should really understand Marvel time travel and it's splinter timelines.

Illyana used to jettison the New Mutants into a new one like every third time she used her powers.

>>89230475
There is nothing I don't love about this page.

>>89230635

i like this design of squirrel girl

>>89232551
Yeah, but has he ever been time-travelled to? Hell, that might explain his fear, considering how many shithole alternate timelines he's travelled to.

>>89230452
>delicious brown female cap
I'll bet she's a lesbian or something

>>89232509
just put the motherfucking Odinsword up his purple ass

>>89232619
>wait are WE the shithole alternate timeline this time

>>89230908
Yeah, speaking of Guillotine... I kinda forgot she existed. Is she in something right now?

>>89230452
>4 holy swords

Yeah, that's as dead as anyone can get.

>>89230581
How come he gets to bring friends?

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Just like New Avengers, this is gonna be another goldmine for reaction images.
Based Ewing

>>89230452

This is the best goddamn splash page and I will fight any motherfucker who says otherwise.

Thank you for storytiming, OP.

>>89230594
Da fuck? Why the hell is Stephanie Brown in a Marvel comic with Bruce and Alfred?

>>89230415
>>89230428
>>89230452
>>89230467
>CAROL WAS RIGHT

Or she was taking advice from a guy who was unknowingly seeing the futures of alternate realities... It would explain the One Man Logan vision with Hulk Kids

>>89231523
More would get the joke than having to explain who that is.

>>89230594
QT girl with tail asking for nuts. Gotta make a nut run.

>>89230594
God, Ewing wants to write a DC crossover so badly but Ike and The Mouse won't let him...

>>89231781
Act 4 ZimZam.

>>89230775
>So Ka-Zar's son?
I swear I remember someone theorizing that here when this comic first got announced.
Hi, Al.

>>89230540
>shield goons

hah

>>89232509
Magik is on the previous page, dead.

>>89230472

It was never about Thanos. Christ, you're dumb...you MUST be a Carol fan.

>>89234861
>It was never about Thanos
Then why did Tony go so ballistic when he found out that Carol went after Thanos based on Ulysses' intel and that Rhodey happened to die in the fight?
He was mad that Carol was there in the first place even though there was absolutely nothing wrong with being proactive about possibly being able to stop Thanos from getting a Cosmic Cube.

>>89231454
Fuck off

>>89230594
>Squirrel Girl
Damn, she ugly.

So aside from Bendis is there anyone who hasn't been on the "Carol did nothing wrong" train? Every one of the tie-ins I've read have her being entirely reasonable and almost unambiguously right.

>>89231411
he got "indestructibly immortal" in Thanos Imperative. Apparently, it didn't wear out until Secret Wars.

>>89230467
Why Captain America? Why not Power Woman, Jewl, or her name sake Iron Fist?

>>89235667
why not Captain America?

>>89235667
>Power Woman

Or maybe she could be Power Girl, it's not like DC is using her anymore.

>>89235712
Luke and Jessica's kid is the last person I'd expect to be in the running. If I remember she first showed up in New Avengers right? So her backstory is mysterious to me

>>89235729
Wasn't she in Earth 2 Society

>>89235772
she was first in Ultron Forever, but her origin wasn't there either

but as this issue revealed, Thanos killed half the heroes on Earth while she was still a baby including Steve and Sam

but regardless, there's not like a line of succession for Captain America, and most importantly, she's from the future. Ewing doesn't need an elaborate backstory for why she's Captain America although I'm sure he has one when she's in a story taking place in the present, she's just Future Captain America and that's all you need to know right now

>>89232471
The classified solicit is just a TPB for Secret Empire. Just a collections of Captain Hydra, Thunderbolts, FalCap and Uncanny Avengers comics. The people in that thread that were sperging out like it was some mystery ongoing were just idiots looking to get there meme on. There's literally nothing to speculate other than "which specific issues of Captain Hydra/FalCap/Uncanny Avengers/Thudnerbolts will the pick?"

>>89232509
I mean, it's a pretty good plan.

>>89232737
>Is she in something right now?
Haha, no. Of course not. Any chance of that happening got thrown out the window when CoC failed.

>>89233216
You're welcome. Remember to support the official release if you liked it. It'd be nice if good comics sold for once instead of the usual trash.

Yes, I'm pretty butthurt over those Foolkiller numbers.

>>89234934
He felt guilty over Rhodey's death since it could have been avoided had Stark upgraded his suit like he'd asked, so he blamed Carol for bringing him in the first place to redirect some of that guilt onto her.

>>89236247
So Tony Stark was wrong and acted crazy, got it.

U.S.Bump

>>89231781

To protect others!

Why is Thanos considered to be a universal threat when the only time he poses a significant danger is when he collects items of great power? Can't anyone do that if they put their minds to it?

It's like calling Emperor Pilaf one of the strongest characters in DBZ because he was the first to gather the Dragon Balls. I mean, sure Thanos has superpowers too. But then so what? He's not that hard to take down.

Yet everyone still pretends he's a bigger threat than Galactus.

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>>89235667
e's not even the first descendant of Luke Cage to become a captain america, that already happened with Luke's great grandson in captain america corps.

>>89236556
He's real cunning and without items of power he can still beat the shit of silver surfer, black bolt, the annihilators, the ultimates, etc. The guy is a tough cookie.

>>89230883
Being overpowered is not the same as being a Mary-Sue. Please don't get the two terms confused.

>>89236247
Carol didn't bring War Machine. He showed up to visit her and then volunteered for the mission when he found out about it.

>>89230428
Looks like Viv survived, too.

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>>89232509
Allblack

>>89232035
4our you

>>89235803
That doesn't exist

>>89230511
So this is not the same Dani as was in Avengers Forever then. That Dani's Cap Shield was destroyed on Zero Day (thanks, Falbama)

>>89231558
Well, also valid.

If you're living in a dystopian hellscape, the better you know how to do something, the more valuable you are.

If things are relatively stable, then there are likely enough people that anyone is potentially replaceable.

>>89232281
>>89231407
HURRRRRRRRRR

You can be descended both from immigrants and from revolutionary Americans. My great-grandfather married an Irish-Catholic girl and my mom never shuts the fuck up about our Irish immigrant roots, despite great-grandpa having roots going back to the 1700s.

>>89238772
it's a subtle dig at Trump and his cabinet picks, anon

>>89230635
This is great.

>>89232306
I thought Marvel wasn't going to do President Trump?

>>89231567
Maybe it's just not a very good parody?

>>89238840
He's not!Trump, in the same way that the last president was not!Obama and the one before that was not!Bush. Every appearance he has, he'll just be "the president," and show up with his face obscured by shadows.

>>89238814
So it's saying Trump picks his cabinet guys because they have a lot of expertise? Or is it saying they somehow share his ideology? I'm not really sure which it is they're trying to say or why either would be bad anyway.

>8 years of this level of massive butthurt over the president
Dis gunna b gud
They're going to find a way to do a long over arching event aren't they?

>>89231567
It's a comic about AIM playing GIJoe, who cares?

Sides their experience is veteran Avengers and Masters of Magic taking down a Titan with magical swords.

>>89238920
it's saying expertise is losing out to ideology because almost none of his picks have experience in the field they were chosen to head, and a lot of them (Betsy DeVos springs to mind most immediately) were chosen for their ideology

>>89232619
>Yeah, but has he ever been time-travelled to?

Well, he did help Cable found X-Force. That would technically count, wouldn't it?
Also, Bishop was still not an irredeemable villain during Sam's first stint as an X-Man.

>>89231407
Post secret wars.

>>89231257
Black Knight and the current Captian Britain start up the Knights of the Round again.

>>89230488
>>89230500
This is the most ham handed thing Marvel's put out in a while and that's saying something
>QUICK! DIVERSE(tm) AMERICA BEAT THAT GOOD FOR NOTHING SELF INTERESTED TRAITOR MONEY MAN
And every time they fail because their strawmen are always way more interesting than their other characters in the end.

>>89232509
Excalibur, though that was brought in by the current Captian Britain. Maybe she didn't get it in their world.

>>89238941
>8 years of subtle butthurt
>somehow it makes marvel great again because they go out of their way to make compelling not-Trump villains involved in creative plots to take over the world instead of constantly publishing books about "hey look, a black Thor- isn't that diverse?"

>>89239050
These aren't new characters, anon. They were created in Ewing's Ultron Forever which came out two years ago. I think you need to stop looking for "attacks on Trump" everywhere and realise that sometimes, a gold-loving pirate getting beaten up by future captain america is just that and not some subtle stab at his holiness. If you see parallels here then frankly that says more about your views than it does the writer's.

>>89239162
To be fair, Trump makes for a pretty entertaining villain. You can play him completely straight and it still works!

>>89239180
there are some digs at Trump in this, it's just considerably more subtle than some of Marvel's other output

>>89239152
Faizas stabbing him in the back.

>>89239050
yes, this is more ham-fisted than literal Trump MODOK or Nick Spencer just straight up putting Trump's and SJWs' words into the mouths of supervillains in long-winded unsubtle speeches

>>89239162
>>89239196
>Crisis of Infinite Trumps
>Instead of Gwenverse shit it's Trumpverse
TAKE MY MONEY

>>89233428
You say that like Ewing gives a shit if anyone gets his references.

>>89238941
more like two years max of you retards bumrushing every thread shitting on your false god

>>89239437
>for the past year
People have been taking shots at Trump for literally DECADES.

>>89230428
>No real Thor there to save them from Thanos
No wonder why they lost.

>>89231407
clearly the immigrants are one branch, and Steven Rogers was another one

>>89236556
Because even of his own power, he can fight the Silver Surfer one-on-one and win fairly easily.

>>89237577
Viv, Deadpool, Magik, the kid behind White Tiger and Iron Man.

>>89230511
She's hot as fuck desu

>>89239579
Yeah, but if you remind people that before he was a politician he was the star of a shitty reality show and a hated Real Estate mogul, they'll assume you're a Shillary supporter.

>>89239437
but muh illegals and/or muh most populated states don't count because I said so

>>89230511
can I get a drawfag to draw Captain America throwing this bitch at Golden Skull/Red Skull/Green Skull?

"I AM THE SHIEL-OHHH FUCK!"

>>89239645
Thor can't even beat Ultron on a good day.

>>89230452
How does she have Cap's shield if it's shown to be broken in >>89230428 ? just a copy?

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>>89230581
>>89231665
Amen
A+ Stomp fetish material right there.

>>89234331
No, she was alive and checking the Thing if he was alive.

Also, a teleporter. Who's died before. And can time travel.

>>89241145
It's a replica.

>>89241145
She mentions in a previous appearance that the original shield was destroyed on Zero Day, and her's is just a replica.

>>89230428
Definitely al alternate timeline, some hereoes here shouldn't';t have been around to confront Thanos, like the Guardians, and Red Hulk plus the Champions already seem to be a thing.

Kind of weird that the page that's suppose to have tons of dead heroes also shows them alive, like Magik, and Deadpool. Nice Keanu impression, Tony!

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>>89230386
>BEST AVENGERS
>Ewing

>>89243838
I want this meme to die for real.
And I want you to die too :)

>>89243838
Bitch Ewing, plz