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Justice League of America: The Ray: Rebirth #1 Storytime

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>>89228229
Gay desu
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>>89228229
Thanks, OP. Looking forward to this. Not particularly sure why I am.
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>>89228315
You're welcome. It's a decent enough issue.
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>>89228385
Honestly still annoyed that they made him gay.

I get wanting to be "progressive", but the decent thing they could do was bring back FF with him.
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>>89228458
He was made gay in Multiversity already.
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>>89228487
Yeah, but they I don't see Superman suddenly becoming Obama either
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>>89228543
noice
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>>89228508
>>89228527
And you lost me.
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>>89228505
Given that the Freedom Fighters started out as a team from another Earth, not quite the same.
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Next week is Killer Frost's Rebirth oneshot. JLA Rebirth is on the 8th of February.
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This book is still monthly.
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>>89228508
>>89228527
Are the laser shield homophobes going to appear in JLA or do they only exist so Ray has a villain to fight in his one solo issue
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The end
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>>89228385
>Justice 9 comic
>Alternate costume for Red Racer
AYYY
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Ray has good taste in men, at least. What burly superhero is he going to bottom for?
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>>89228610
So's the current Superman?
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>>89228663
That's just Barry's costume

Does Ray ship Hal and Barry? [Spoiler] I hope so
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>>89228385
dat Justice 9 cameo
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>>89228652
They're not homophobes, they're worse. They're libertarians
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I liked this issue quite a bit. I'm glad the gay bit isn't just set dressing.

>>89228731
It may be similar to Barry's costume, but all we have to go on is a cowl. Maybe he was inspired by the Flashes of the Multiverse to change it up a little.
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I liked it
Thanks OP
This had a bit of old X-Men feeling to it, not too preachy but still relevant
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>>89228615
I hope he's made up with his mom, she was just trying to protect him.

And no, the gay allegory doesn't work with parents when you've got explode-y superpowers.
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>>89228779
Racer still has the same costume in Superman, I'm guessing the artist just drew Barry by accident
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>>89228385
>Justice 9
>Red RacerxFlashlight on the cover
Nice
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>>89228798
She was also a bitch who blamed him for his condition and said it was his fault he wasn't allowed to have friends so I can see why he wouldn't talk to her
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>>89228598
>It's not the first time someones blown up in my face

Fag
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>DID I MENTION IM GAAAAAAY

k
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JLA is looking good
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>>89229555
He only mentioned it because he's had no opportunity for a love life all this time. It's just as casual as if he were straight and said "damn I'm lonely, wish I could find a girl"
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>>89228615
COLONIZED
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>>89229555
He's not mentioning it for the fuck of it. Orlando's books don't work like that.
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>>89228687
I want Apollo and Midnighter to double team him
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I wonder how Priest feels about DC and Orlando making Ray a flaming faggot.
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>>89230544
I doubt he really cares.
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>>89230544
He's probably just glad they didn't make him a black guy
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>>89228229
Well, I was hoping to know better about JSA characters, but fucking D-R-O-P-P-E-D. It's just like Iceman shit all over again. Well, at least, DC only does that to c-listers so they could stay that way.
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>>89230575
You never know.

>>89230609
Never too late...
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>>89230628
>Ray
>JSA character

You weren't here in the first place Anon.
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>>89228487
>He was made gay in Multiversity already.
Ray was gay? No WAY bae!
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Why is he gay?
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>>89230717
Why not?
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>>89230672
Yeah, I mean FF. Well, at least, he and his entire team were great at least once - during Infinite crisis.
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>>89228487
He was gay in an alternate earth just how Superman is black in an alternate earth. Now they made main universe Ray gay.
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This was nice.

Thinking about it, has there been any of these character Rebirth stories that have been objectively bad?
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>>89230842
You mean one shot? No. Also JLvSS isn't terrible either which has Lobo and Frost. It's not really good though.
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>>89230999
Yes I meant the one-shots.
The longer stories are more hit and miss for me but I can't think of any of these one-shots that I have thought were bad.
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>>89231032
Yeah I don't think any of the one-shots were bad. I think Batgirl and the Birds of Prey was weaker because of its art and Supergirl for the whole few months thing, but they were still decent.
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>>89231032
Yeah they're all pretty cool. Done in one stories that work as an origin stories, explains powers, motivation and sets character up for future. It's just basic Superhero storytelling done competently.
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>>89231088
I'm talking about JLA, don't really know much about the rest of Rebirth.
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>>89228385
Getting a bit of a Jamie McKelvie vibe from this art.
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>>89230544
Priest doesn't have a problem with writing Jericho bi, so I think he be annoyed at most.
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So the Sons of Liberty are a reference to that General Liberty (?) guy in the 90s Supes run?
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>>89228229
Orlando's been knocking it out of the park with these one-shots...
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>>89228385
>>89228403
This is like extreme child cruelty. I find it hard to buy as an origin considering it's pitched as her just bringing him up, the hospital is aware, etc.
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>>89228229
This was a Good read
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>>89231470
Just handwave it as government awareness like with Damage's upbringing.
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This was kinda unusually stereotypical from an actual gay man? IDK. It wasn't a patch on The Atom one.
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>>89231222
Priest said Wolfman was the first person to be nice to him when hecwas just starting in comics, interning and shut. Basically, he knows Wolfman always intended to have Jericho gay and Priest is honoring that.
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>>89228731
He ships alternate universe Hal/Barry, cause they're canon.
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>>89228652
I think he's just a laser shield general bigot

Or a laser shield libertarian WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE
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>>89228385
So is she is his mom or not?
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this was not very good.
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>>89232230
What's wrong with it? I thought it was pretty good
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>>89230490
Same
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>>89230628
Not its really not. He's been gay for awhile now
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>>89228615
This needs a Dan Didio of hope
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>>89232384
No?
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>>89232384
Multiversity was barely a year ago and not even the mainline version of him. I have no knowledge of him being gay prior to that and even in the Nu52 his series was about trying to impress his girlfriends parents.
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Does Doctor Polaris still exist? He was Ray's big bad in the Priest/Porter series.

I loved how much of a fuck-up Ray was. Will they write a diversity token as a selfish fuck-up?
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>>89232736
Polaris was in JLvSS.
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>>89230371
>BLEACHED
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>>89232736
I'm sure he'll make plenty of stupid decisions in his CW incarnation.
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>>89232736
Polaris just jobbed to Cyborg in JLvSS so after the GLs beat his shit in, maybe he'll do something to the new JLA.
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>>89228296
SILVERBLADE

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Silverblade_Vol_1
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>>89228494
Vanity City is where Aztek lives.
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>>89230717
Because he's gay in the CW cartoon and they need that synergy
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>>89231349
The Sons of Liberty were Agent Liberty's team as well as a Wildstorm Freedom Fighters homage
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>>89228317
But televisions give off artificial light
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>>89228385
Why is there a window? A kid trapped in the house would try to get to the damn window.

Also where did he get gay magazines?
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>>89228598
>It's not the first time someone's blown up in my face

What did he mean by this?
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>>89228460
>This shouldn't be possible! Kid can't be human!

IT'S CALLED "METAHUMAN", IDIOTS! YOU LIVE IN A UNIVERSE FULL OF THOSE!
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>>89228385
>undercut

jesus this shit's spreading from marvel
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It was a good issue. I'm fine with making Ray gay because seriously, no one gave a shit about Ray Terrill before now. If they make him interesting and he sticks around, great. If they don't, he'll be gone again in a few years anyway.
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>>89228615
>Ray is a buttboi to some bearded lumberjack who keeps popcorn on his crotch

why
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>>89229406
Kek, you cheeky fuck.
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>>89228598
Has a mayor ever been the love interest in a book before.

Seems like it could be an interesting dynamic.
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>>89233531
The mail?
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>>89233847
The mayor isn't at the movies with him.
They could always do something like that in the show, but the premise there appears to be different.
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>>89233531
The mom still needs sunlight to live, presumably
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>>89228640
Is Deathstroke going to be in this Titans arc?
They teased him in 2 issues ago.
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>name irl is Ray
>look more like the bear he's sitting with at the movies
I'm ok with this

this was a good read, thanks OP
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>>89233853
So his mom let him have access to a phone and her credit card?
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>>89234301
Why not? Lots of parents order shit online for their kids

It's not like he can go the store and get it himself
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>>89234301
>ordering things over the phone
Otherwise, why would that be shocking?
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The only bad thing about this issue is that damn side cut.
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>>89234461
I can forgive it this time since he cut his own hair in the dark and he was trying to look like a homo
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>>89234312
>>89234323
Because he implies that his mother isn't exactly accepting of his sexuality.

So her letting him run up her credit card with gay porno mags seems a bit off
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>>89234529
wut
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>>89234529
His mother is not accepting him being a freak of nature
We don't know jack shit about her stance on cock sucking
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>>89234688
"Mom hates it all. She says I got my interests from dad"

Interests is bolded
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>>89234888
Interests as in heroes. Because his dad was the Golden Age Ray. Who was a hero.
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>>89234888
You're an idiot.
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>>89233662
Oh fuck off I liked him.
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>>89234888
>She says I got my interests from dad
Are you implying his mom is a beard
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Screw this shit! I really liked the 1990's Ray and making him suddenly gay all of a sudden isn't cool!

Make a new fucking character if you want them to be gay! Don't bother bringing back and old only to change them just for "diversity" bucks
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That was pretty neat. The references are a nice touch.
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>>89235997
Here's a handkerchief to soak up your tears.
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>>89228229
>>89228271
Why is Houser in the cover if no one named Houser is in the credits?
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I liked it more than I thought I would.

I've been wanting a gay hero from the big 2 who wasn't just another ripped dude for a bit, so it's nice to have a gay dude who's a bit on the effeminate side this time.

The politics stuff was a bit aggressive, but that stuff makes everyone nutty.

It's surprising that homophobic, racist DC did this instead of the """"progressive"""" House of Ideas.
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>>89230717
Bceause he's an obscure character nobody cares about and he's gay in the CW
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>>89237258
I liked that he had zero problems with his sexuality, most other writers would have paired that with the "trapped in the dark" allegory

Also it was cool that he got a boyfriend and wasn't just pining for his childhood bff even though that guy will probably end up a love interest
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>>89236971
>It's okay when DC does it
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>>89237098
Jody Houser was listed as a cowriter, not sure why they're not included in the credits.
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>>89237598
>It's okay when DC does it well
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>>89234116
No. This arc is the Fearsome Five for atleast the next 3 months. After that should be Judas Contract. They just had an extra page after #6 and tossed Deathstroke in it to foreshadow.
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>>89237258

Y'know, i was wondering why his design wasn't clicking with me and now that you've pointed out how its more effeminate than other gay characters introduced I can see what my problem was.

Looking at him from the more effeminate angle actually has me digging his look now.
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>>89239274

Same. I'vr been wanting an effeminate gay character in comics for years now. Someone who was unmistakably and unapologetically gay in a very noticeable way that no other heroes are.

It's a good step in the right direction
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Cadence is way too similar to my parents' asshole neighbors for me to like him. The attacker isn't a homophobe, just some guy who had the city inspectors called about the ivy on his retaining wall eight too many times.
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>>89228385
Wait, did his mom procure him a gay porno mag?
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>>89228508
>Ray half blinded the only kid who was ever nice to him and who shared his insatiable love for cock.

Going for the full Sadness on this one, eh, Orlando?
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>>89228527
>Nativist terrorists with hologram weapons.

Sure, why not.
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>>89239274
>i was wondering why his design wasn't clicking with me

But this is basically the same design he had in the 90s, where he was straight.
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>>89240861
>Mom can I borrow your credit card
>For what?
>...You know
>What?
>Mom I just hit puberty and you're literally the only person I've ever touched just do this for me
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>>89241227
I was speaking about his civilian form.
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>>89228598
>it's not the first time someones blown up in my face
I bet.
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>>89228615
Isn't Lobo getting a oneshot?
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>>89241760
nope

only Ryan, Vixen, Ray and Frost then JLA starts in February
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>>89228508
...Vanity?

HOLY SHIT THEY'RE USING AZTEK'S CITY?
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>>89230609
Technically he is a black dude when he is using his powers.
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>>89242325
They're making it into his home town, but since Ray is going to be in a team book, I don't know how much we're actually going to see the city.
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>>89228560
This libertarian supervillain is actually pretty reasonable.
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>>89228403
Peter Pan?
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>>89231424
I really like Orlando. I like this one-shots and both Midnighter comics.

WHY HE ISN'T USING HIS MAGIC ON SUPERGIRL!?
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>>89244363
maybe he can only write minorities

Supergirl is an alien but she's still just a white chick
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>>89244363
Probably because of editorial. I don't think he would really do that much synergy of his own volition. I know I wouldn't.
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>beating up Punisher and Captain America pastiches
not real subtle
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>>89244363
Gays cannot into women, quite literally
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>>89245015
but Orlando is bi
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>>89228253
I think that's the point senpai
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>>89228615
Bolt. Just because.
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>>89240861
Maybe is one of his dad magazines
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boop
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>>89228460
Poor guy has no dick.
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>>89228442
>>89228460
>His father had the same "light allergy" as him.
>His father died from that allergy.
>Goes outside, gets affected by the light, explodes, but turns out he's fine, just invisible.

So eventually it's going to turn out his father is alive, has the same powers as him, and just let everyone believe he was dead for years. The only question is will Ray Sr. be evil or not?
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>>89239958
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>>89246809
If we're doing pre52, he'll either be Ray 1 or Neon
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>>89246863
This is true, but can you honestly tell me we all weren't trying to pretend Teen Titans existed at that time. Even with based Bunker.
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>>89246975
didn't exist.

Hell, you know what I mean Anon.Harvest, Skitter and Red Beast Boy were all a bad fever dream.
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>>89233847
ONeil Question.
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>>89228253
was he always gay? i thought he had a wife for a while

or is he alan scott gay?
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>>89228615
This artist doesn't know how to draw natural looking smiles. Those faces in the second panel look like condescending smirks from people plotting something, not loving couples watching a moving
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>>89237281
Oh, so more tv synergy... great.
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>>89228543
Nice.
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>>89246809
here you go, young anon.
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>>89244363
This book is a DC Khomic, Midnighter is under Bat editorial. Supergirl in under Berganza editorial. Do I need to say more?
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>>89248553
Actually no because there is no Ray on the CW as of now. Down the pipeline, but currently nothing to synergize with.
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>All these butch and retarded sidecuts in the JLA now.

Disgusting.
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>>89250582
Shut your whore mouth.
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bump
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>>89248466

I think this is the son of the original - so THIS guy has always been. The mother here, presumably is the wife you are referring to.

>>89233531
>>89240861
>>89245829

This is probably one of the more inconsistent details; it's not hard to get something that's comparable to a Playboy or Penthouse but meant for gay guys, even in small towns in the USA, when you're a teenager, but that does involve being able to get out and get to someplace; mail would be an option, but seriously, for the past 10-15 years, it would not be a magazine, it would be a website and tube porn.
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>>89248553
>tv synergy

>>89249723


It's just planned as an animated show on the CW Seed (on-line, not even sure if it's part of the CW App or you actually need to go to their website - I know the old episodes of Constantine and the WB Animated movies like DOOM are only on their website). It hasn't premiered yet, and they MAYBE might add him to something like LoT, the way they did Vixen.

>>89250582
Don't know the artist, but they've had bad haircuts for a while, irrespective of how good the artists were otherwise. Look at Jim Gordan Bats during DCYou.
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>>89240861
>>89251669

>Open

Anons, it's Out Magazine.
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>>89251744
In retrospect this is super obvious. It even has the traditional baity straight guy cover.
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>>89228252
Good issue.
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are we just pretending this never happened then
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>>89252873
Yes
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>>89249723
Oh alright then I guess it's just a """ coincidence """
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>>89228317
Just have the candles without lighting them.

>>89233471
Also this. What were they thinking?
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>>89228385
>>89228458
Dropped.
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>>89253598
k
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This was pretty bad. I really liked Ray's origin as it was and thought it could've used some touching up, make it feel more modern. This was pretty lame though... What hapenned to his mom? How did he get such a good grip of his powers so fast and without hurting anyone! Defeats the purpose of hiding...
How come his mom bought him gay magazines but couldn't find him newer movies to watch? Why did he fall in love with that Camden dude? Everything felt rushed and underdeveloped. Hope his dad isn't still alive, that was pretty lame in the old series too.
Oh and how is that guy running for mayor? He seems the same age as Ray so he should be under 25.

Another thing, what's Orlando's obsession with the sidecut?
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>>89253555
Maybe they were thinking it was okay in limited amounts, which is why she said it was okay in limited amounts.
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>>89244363
Orlando's writing style doesn't fit a teenage girl comic. Also, synergy.
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