Marvel, baby, it has to stop.

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Hahahahahaha.

Who is the target audience?

>>89186712
this sort of "witty" chit chat is ironically why nobody want young women at key position in any sort of organization.

>>89186712
Wasp is quickly becoming one of the worst series they have, and it only has one issue out.

>>89186842
Immolate yourself, tripfag.

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Panels, sometime entire books, keep making me ask who the hellis the "premier" talent at Marvel anymore? Last I checked the majority fled to Image and other independent publishers, or signed exclusivity contracts with DC.

For example, who the fuck wrote this and why couldn't they find anyone competent? It's like they're biting Gillen's worst tendencies with the help of obvious, surface level Pop-Culture Madlibs, in addition to a background that is literally just one badly composed horizon line and slight change in color.

No wonder they're tailspining, and I don't think this next line-up of 'who cares' #1s with an event led by Cullen FUCKING Bunn of all people is going to save them.

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>>89186712

Anon, Marvel died at the end of Secret Wars #12

>>89186842
>Tripfag
>Telling anybody that they suck

>Luke: 6,42

>How can you say to your brother, 'Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye,' when you yourself fail to see the plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.

>>89186850
14 year olds who will drop it in 2 years when they outgrow it

Its like marvel comics is a website that hosts webcomics, but instead of hosting webcomics they conned some stupid asshole into giving them money to actually print them out and sell them in store.

>>89186876
Except this isn't what people, men or women, talk like at all.

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For anyone wondering this is the book's writer on twitter. The person has almost achived self-awareness, almost.

>>89186712
Iron Giant?

>>89186959
>Anon, Marvel died at the end of Thanos Imperative
Fixed.

>>89186898
>an event led by Cullen FUCKING Bunn

Oh wow. Seriously? Marvel really is desperate.

>>89186842
Did Boco get Hacked or something?

>>89187030
get a few intern girl an you'll see.

>>89187033

That's a humble-brag if I ever seen one.

>>89187030
People raised on Tumblr do.

>>89186712
This is the least obnoxious thing I've seen from Marvel's mid-tier books. If they could at least settle for stuff like this, it wouldn't be so bad. Because we all know they'll never stop.

>>89187098
I mean real people, anon.

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>>89187033
Don't forget, when they asked people what smart girls they should put in their comic, this was their response.

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>>89187033
>charismatic

If by that he means socially retarded, annoying, and "quirky," then he's right!

But wait, let's dig further!

A lot of writers tend to self insert parts of their personalities onto characters they're writing. Thus, his vision of "charismatic" deteriorates into being a nuisance. That explains his inability to actually write likable characters and his social ineptitude.

What a mess.

Why are they reading fanfics? Are all these characters supposed to be half-retarded teenage weeaboos?

>>89187125
Oh, got ya.

>>89186850
College aged students that want to feel like tweens again.

>>89186712
Does nobody find the idea of people in the Marvel U writing fanfics about their heroes disturbing?

>>89186712
People at Marvel think human beings talk like this. I just want anyone who calls themself a Marvel fan right now to remember that. This is your company. These are your standards. Enjoy it.

>>89186712
Don't worry, the soft sales will end this book soon enough.

>>89186850
Quite literally the Tumblr people. The writers are very active on social media so they believe to be a huge untapped market that they try to get in on.

>>89186850
The 30something hipster-ass white male writer.

Also, how the fuck does Wasp know what a fanfic is but doesn't know what Harry Potter or Empire Strikes Back is? Fuck Marvel, you can't even stay consistent in your shitty teen characterization.

>>89187248
>Quite literally the Tumblr people
But /co/ does nothing but bitch about it.

>>89187134
He's not actually socially awkward, at least not in a serious way. It's just the "I'm sooooooo quirky and awkward LOL!" shit you see teenage girls say, only he's a grown man.

>>89187127

They actually were looking for real people to give cameos to and include words of wisdom from and shit like that.

>>89187289
Because the two demographics don't overlap and what Tumblr likes /co/ dislikes. When Marvel makes pushes towards tumblr then of course /co/ is gonna bitch about it.

>>89187127
They are looking to profile people, eh?

I know you're game, Whitley. Or should I say WHITEly!?!?!?!

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>>89186712
>Marvel Nower!: Webcomic-tier shit at the price of a real comic (and more)

>>89187386
>boo hoo

>>89187367
Who'd they pick?

>>89187407
>Because the two demographics don't overlap
....Nigger are you fucking serious?

No I want them to double down scratch that triple done
So that there comics are overshipped to 300 per cent

>>89187278
until proven otherwise I'm assuming she's a sociopath and compulsive liar, just saying whatever she thinks will make people like her more

She is a Pym, it's not that far fetched

you'd think /co/ would be all over a book that has a woman raising her ex-husband's daughter

>>89187430

I dunno, just female scientists and stuff. They'll be in subsequent issues.

>>89187504
This is a pasta right?
I swear I saw this on /tv/ once.

>>89187504
Huck Finn is great though.

>>89186712
It is this the worst thing that has ever been put in paper?

>>89187504
>Ayn Rand
Edgy, kid.

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>>89186712
No, seriously, literally WHO the FUCK thinks that making fanfics is a cool thing? It's the most uncreative, bottle of the barrel, most autistic thing a "creative type" would do. Especially if their doing fanfics of real people - don't forget Kamala writes fanfics about people she knows in-universe, friends and colleagues of her crime-fighting activities.

Imagine yourself hanging out with someone one of your friends brought by - a friend of a friend, right? - you talk with him, have a connection, etc. Next day, you find out that same guy wrote a fucking fanfic of you, where you're a baby and shit on the floor!

If I would guess the Marvel universe's take on Chris-chan, Kamala would be the closest call.

>>89187432
/co/mblr is a fucking meme. The only reason people think it exists is because they can't recognize bait and contarians.

>>89186842
I know Boco. Something isn't right. This isn't his style of posting.

>>89187624
The scourge, dude.

>>89187538
Yeah its pasta

>>89187504
>Shitting on Tolkien

>>89187620
Yeah, must be why every fucking board has taken to calling this place /co/mblr. Let me guess, according to you, everything bad and wrong with the board is /pol/s fault, right?

>>89187421
Man, was this before axis? Little did he know the villains being heroes was actually the good thing.

>>89187538

If you've only seen it once you must not go on /tv/ often. I don't blame you.

>>89187033
Wait wait, you mean to tell me this is an actual, Marvel sponsored thing?

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>>89187666
This is indeed an accurate image of the relationship between /pol/ and /co/.

>>89187504
what's the point on even having 4chan when every media board, /co/, /a/, /v/, /tv/, /mu/, all uncritically gravitate to the same flavor of depressed circlejerk media?

twenty-somethings contemplating suicide are the most dogshit of protagonists

>>89187599
But Khamala is cute!

fuck that was funny

>>89187599
oy vey
poor chris...

it's literately written by a bronyfag

>>89187954
If that were the case, we'd be all over it and calling it the greatest thing ever.

What would you do if you were a marvel editor?

>>89187954
Jeremy Whitley is a mangina.

>>89188036
>10 years late

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>>89187721
Why wouldn't it be? They published this.

>>89187954
No way. Where's Barneyfag when you need him?

>>89187421
>all the heroes will be villains and all the villains will be heroes
Was this before or after Axis?

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>>89188213
looks like he finally had his autistic meltdown and bit the dust

>>89186712
>and here we see the exact page I dropped this

>>89186842
Not the real Boco

>>89186712
>le Empire joke

So they're referencing a Disney property, AND an MCU movie referencing a Disney property.

That's like double synergy.

>>89188316
I don't believe it. Fucker is a universal constant at this point.

>>89186712
>Wasp reads Ms. Marvel's fanfiction
>doesn't know what Star Wars and Harry Potter is

>>89187504
>Ayn Rand is anywhere but in the SHIT TIER slot
How's it feel being a clinical sociopath?
Well, that or an impotent fourteen year old
Or both

>>89187599
>bottle of the barrel
I know shitty fanfics are diamond dozen, but come on.

>>89187707
About a year before, yes.

>>89187278
I can understand her not getting the Star Wars reference, it's older than she is, but there's no excuse for her not knowing a cultural icon like Harry Potter, especially at her age.

>>89188145
So, is the shitty artstyle done on purpose for a small part of the comic, or is the whole thing like that? Because if so, that's even worse than Cucumber Quest.

>>89188650
Too be fair it was a guest artist, but still.

>>89187546
It's bait

>>89188145
Is this a real printed on paper comic? What is it?

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>>89188883
It's Marvel, it's Marvel.

>>89188883
Hellcat, one of the worst current comics.

>>89189011

Hey, what alternate universe is this? Looks kinda fun in a crazy way.

>>89189065
>alternate universe

Well I guess 616 isn't its designation anymore since Reed and his family remade it all.

>>89186712
seeing things like makes me really worried about what will happen when ms. marvel gets cancelled

>>89189011
>we need a power suit

>just rip it from fallout

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>>89189405
it's 616-8

>>89189428
Glad I wasn't the only one thinking that was the case. Hadn't Fallout 4 just come out at that point?

>>89188537
There are worse things you can do, but no one would brag about doing them on a social setting. Especially if you're doing fanfics about real people that you know in real life. Only a Chris chan-tier autist would do that.

>>89189468
Was the past 616 universe the 7th 616 universe? I had always assumed it was just 616 among all the other universes around. If so why no call it 616-2 instead, 8 seem an odd number to land on.

>>89189645
It isn't the first time that it was remade

>>89189846
Yeah, that's why I'm asking how it makes sense that it's now 616-8 instead of 616-2 for example.

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>>89188316
Nah, you just gotta post the "right" images.

>>89187067
>anon still believes the "DnA Cosmic was good" meme
wew fucking lad. Cosmic died when Giffen left Marvel for DC, X-men died when Morrison left for DC, Spider-man died when JMS left for DC and Avengers died when Johns left for DC.

You seeing a pattern here?

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>When your company has betrayed everything about their old lore but you can't refute this so you call everyone a /pol/tard

>>89187504
>The writing is dreadful; the book was terrible.
Yet you think Ayn fucking Rand novels are "god tier"? LMAO

>>89189645
>Was the past 616 universe the 7th 616 universe?
ye. says right there. it was in its 7th incarnation pre-secret wars and its 8th afterwards

>>89189928
I'm watchin' you, anon.

>>89187067
Marvel died in the 90s, it's been a slowly decaying zombie ever since.

>>89189970
DC is to blame. I understand now. DC ruined Marvel. I must devote my every post to shitting on them. Gas the editors, console war now!

>>89190015
But it had never been remade before, had it? It was just 616, not 616-7

>>89190005
>taking bait that stale

>>89188537
>diamond dozen
the team you're looking for is actually dime a dozen. The phrase originated sometime in the 1800s where a number of different foods were being sold for the the literal price of a dime a dozen. For instance, copious newspapers from that time advertised how certain kinds of food, like eggs, oranges, and peaches, were available for purchase by the dozen, and their cost was nothing more than a single dime.

There's no need to thank me I'm just doing my part to make this board a nicer, and more educated place

>>89189645
Yes. Or more accurately, it's the Earth-616 of the 7th multiverse. The multiverse always starts with one universe then branches off into infinite ones from there, until it ends up dieing and restarting.

As for why it's "8", that's for two reasons. One, 8 is Marvel's 52. Two, the last 616 couldn't have been the first one because Galactus exists and Galactus explicitly comes from the universe that preceded the pre-Secret Wars universe.

Galactus is from Universe-6. Pre-Secret Wars was Universe-7. Post-Secret Wars is Universe-8.

>>89190083
It was 616-7. It was never specified which iteration the pre-Secret Wars universe was on but it couldn't have been the first because Galactus' whole origin story centers around the fact that his universe died, and then when the universe was reborn, he was the only survivor that made it into the new iteration.

>>89189469
I think so, it might be reaching, but it almost looks traced.

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>>89186850
Kids that won't understand the references nor have the patience to read the Buckley-tier dialogue and womanchildren.

>>89190083
it had. Galactus was originally a dude from 616-6 named Galan.
Wiccan was recently possessed by Moridun, the space ghost of a being from 616-5

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>>89189428
Marvel ripping off things?

No, never!

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>>89189970

>>89187407
>and what Tumblr likes /co/ dislikes.
Fuck, I wish

>>89190652
There he is.

>>89187504
But I like Stephen King. Not every book of course, but I think he has some pretty solid ones.

>>89186712
Where's the background?

Is this comic taking place inside Garfield's house?

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>>89186712
>TFW fucking Mark Waid writes the better version of a teen character.

What even is life?

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>>89187504

I saw you in the little witch academia thread

>>89189428
Do you see Hawkingbird in that picture? Deodato was too lazy to ask an editor what kinda suit she wears nowadays, so he just googled it and drew from a reference pick he found.
It was a piece of fanart.

>>89190103
Now read the post you've linked to again, but slowly.

It'll get canned, then the writer will go on Twitter, complain about harassment, then it will turn into a best seller.

>>89192682
Won't work, writer is a dude.

>>89186987
What kind of 14 year old can afford comics?

I-I didn't think it was that bad... I even giggled.

Wasp should have stayed dead

>>89192859
most 14yo's get $20/week allowance

>>89186898
How was Bunn's Moon knight anyway?

>>89188617
>Star Wars is not a cultural icon

You're a retard.

>>89193009
I didn't, and I don't think any other 14 year old I knew did either.

>>89193857

Adjust for inflation. My allowance was based on grades.

50 cents for every C
1 dollar for every B
An A would get 5 flat out on the spot.

>>89187278
She was raised in Russia for most of her life, and when she got to America, she seems to mostly be around Janet and Kamala, neither of which are the type to casually drop Star Wars references.

>>89186712
>Marvel thinks this is how people talk

Are we sure the people at the top who approve these things aren't aliens trying to assimilate into human culture?

>>89195114

They have Star Wars in Russia.

>>89186712
Forget about the dialogue, WTF is wrong with the art? It looks awful.

>>89195114
>>89195553
In fact star wars fandom is younger in Russia. That goes for pretty much everything since pretty much most 70s/80s western pop-culture flooded into Russia in the early 90s

>>89186712
I've felt like dying for a while now. Someone end my suffering.

>>89187504
>1984
That book fucked me up hard. I was in a rough part of my relationship when I finished that book and it was not the ending I needed

>>89188145
>That arcade
He fucking killed Mettle.

>>89187504
>shit tier
>tolkein

>>89196141
Opinions aren't facts, anon.

That being said, I disliked the writing in the Hobbit, it felt like it was written by A.A. Milne. And don't get me started on the quest towards the mountain.

>The hobbit is in trouble
>Oh, now the dwarves are in trouble too
>Gandalf saves them
>Dwarves and hobbit are in trouble
>Gandalf saves them
>Gandalf leaves
>Dwarves are in trouble
>Hobbit saves them

And I wish Tolkien had been as descriptive about the battles as he was about the fucking scenery. He could tell me everything that's happened to that river and mountain since it had been sung into existence and take two pages to do it, but the fights are either three sentences long or completely ignored. I had to flip around during Helm's deep to see if they were still fighting or not. Thousands of orcs at your walls and your asses are talking together in the kitchen, holy shit.

>>89186712
what happen to the backgrounds?

>>89197406
Kubo stole them.

>>89186898
I'd probably consider Ewing the best writer at Marvel

>>89190103
I could care less. I am sorry to be the baron of bad news, but you seem buttered, so allow me to play doubles advocate here for a moment. In an age where false morals are a diamond dozen, true virtues are a blessing in the skies. We often put our false morality on a petal stool like a bunch of pre-Madonnas, but you all seem to be taking something very valuable for granite. So I ask of you to mustard up all the strength you can because it is a doggy dog world out there. Although there is some merit to what you are saying it seems like you have a huge ship on your shoulder. In your argument you seem to throw everything in but the kids Nsync, and even though you are having a feel day with this I am here to bring you back into reality, because it’s now like the pot calling the kettle cracked. I have a sick sense when it comes to these types of things. It is almost spooky, because I cannot turn a blonde eye to these glaring flaws in your rhetoric. I have zero taller ants when it comes to people spouting out hate in the name of moral righteousness. You just need to remember what comes around is all around, and when supply and command fails you will be the first to go.

Irregardless, make my words, when you get down to brass stacks it doesn't take rocket appliances to get two birds stoned at once. It's clear who makes the pants in this relationship, and sometimes you just have to swallow your prize and accept the facts, instead of making a half-harded effort. You might have to come to this conclusion through denial and error but I swear on my mother's mating name that when you put the petal to the medal you will pass with flying carpets like it’s a peach of cake. Accept the fax.

>>89187386
>third day in a row he's spammed this thread on /qa/
LOL

>>89186898
>>89187072
What's so bad about Cullen Bunn? Isn't he considered to be a good writer? Like not one of the best but still pretty good?

>>89187289
It's almost like the /co/mblr meme is just a meme after all.

>>89197644
he can be solid but he's made some proper shit in his time.

I'm okay with him because he was man enough to basically admit his Aquaman was shit

>>89197562
This is bugging me way too much.

>>89187178
It's just like real life, anon! So relatable!

>>89187033
If it makes any of you feel better, all of the women I know think he's an absolute tryhard hack.

>>89188043
Take another belt from the cheap bottle of whiskey I keep in my desk, and try to work up the courage to use the Luger my granddad took off a Camp Commandant and use it on myself or Ike Perlmutter, whichever comes first.

>>89192445
I mean, not a LOT better.

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>>89197562
I know that you're doing a bit anon, and I appreciate it, but I can't read your post without my skin beginning to itch in irritation

>>89197562
Question: what the fuck does any of what you say have to do with the lowered standard of Marvel's scripts in regards to their modern iteration?

This has actually spiraled worse than I thought it would, and the worst that I thought it would get was Ultimates 3. So riddle me this: do you think that the current fucking quality of the books is any good? Paneling. Art. Coloring. Dialogue. Are any of this, in regards to the exhibit present, GOOD?

Just drop your opinion on the topic at hand. No one wants to read this copypasta reject. You're not presenting any points that are on-topic.

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>>89198726

lol. man none of this is ultimates 3 bad cmon.

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>>89188145
I've seen this comic a million times and I'll never get used to it.

>>89186959
>Marvel is a Skrull

>>89199000
LOL it worked

>>89186712
Ha ha, references.

>>89187504
>All of these newfags replying to a copypasta
You did a good job Anon a damn good job.

>>89187599
That's what they do in Empowered though. Seems to be a common thought to comic writers.

Personally, I figured they'd do all those gossip and National Enquirer type stuff, not write fan faction of the people the work with and the people they know--- unless they were the very worst of the worst, working off some mad and hatred or such desperate fans they can't get enough or trying to take control of their own fan fiction circles to get the writing going in slightly less disgusting (to the character) ways.

>>89194846
>getting money for good grades
>not getting spanked then later grounded for bad marks

this is why we're a hated generation...

>>89188617
>it's older than she is
That just means she should know it because it's been a part of culture for longer than she's been alive

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>>89187386
>the same thread again
>still using the same reply
Stop with this shit, you're bad at shitposting. It's too avante garde, too niche.

>>89187504
>the entire thread responds genuinely
IT'S A PASTA.

>>89187599
Cape comics are just official fanfiction. People who grew up liking characters getting to write their own stories about those characters.
Writers tend to make their characters writers because they relate to it and it's what they know. Is it any surprise that fanfiction writers would then make their characters fanfiction writers?

>>89198726
That was ancient pasta. /co/ really just bites for anyone, huh?

>>89189468
Really shouldn't it be 8-616?

>>89199026
At least Ultimates 3 had Joe Mad's pencils, even if they were ruined by that awful coloring.

Also, Ultimates 3 would've been half decent if it were just an elseworlds book. It mostly sucked because it was trying to call itself the Ultimates but it absolutely wasn't.

>>89186712
>LOOK AT US SO QUIRKY AND WITTY
>OOOOH THIS PERSON DOESN'T UNDERSTAND MODERN REFERENCES!
>QUUUUUUUUUUIRKY!
>THIS ONE JUST SPOUTS OFF REFERENCES!
>THIS IS THE NO NONSENSE GRRRRRRRRL!

>>89197644
Bunn's best work was Sinestro and you know it, and that's because of a Cosmic Force that makes shitty Marvel Writers into good GL Writers, it happened with Humphries it happened with him. Outside of that he's shit. Aquaman was shit, his Deadpool was ok, his Lobo was shit, his Magneto was actually good I give you that.

>Kamala is supposed to be somewhere around her teens

Why do most artists draw her so mature outside her book?

>>89187651
>Shitting on Mark motherfucking Twain!

>>89190321
Oh, for the love'a Mike...

>>89186712
Didn't this Wasp try to enter the Avengers by murdering the Vision?

At least this won't sell much, and a better writer will come along and do something good with Nadia. She has potential

>>89187504
>The Great Gatsby,karamazov and Atlas Shrugged in god tier
>Dorian gray in high tier
>pride and prejudice in middle tier
>brave new world and david copperfield in low tier
>dune, tolkien, huck finn in shit tier
What the fuck is wrong with the taste of the person that made this?

>>89200674
it's a troll list. eee shouldn't even be listed

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>>89187910
I feel no pity for him.

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>>89186712
>>89188145
Why couldn't they give Kate Beaton a comedy-driven book if they wanted an indie feminist author? She's more talented and actually funny than all those garbage pages I see posted all the time.

>>89200674
>Catch 22 in low tier
I know it's bait, but that always riles me up.

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>>89200921
>Kate Beaton
>talented and actually funny

>>89186850
The sort of people who watch The Big Bang Theory except Marvel forgot those people don't read.

>>89187666
>if other boards trash our board it must be true
>but this never applies to /pol/

I trust you, Satan.

>>89202237

Dont post anime shit here if you don't want cartoons posted on /a/

>>89203926
I post spongebob on /a/ without problem.

>>89186712
What's up with these anti backgrounds?
Where are they supposed to be?

>>89186712
WHERE ARE THE MINORITY VILLLAINS, MARVEL?

Where's my All New, All Black Dr. Octopus? Where's my new host of Venom who's also a drag queen? Where's my gay Mexican illegal immigrant Mysterio?

Oh, wait, what's that? It's totally okay to blackwash good guys, but actually making a villain into a minority is problematic? Minorities aren't actually allowed to be interesting, flawed characters? I can't help but notice that every villain get together is the whitest male gathering you're likely to see outside of the RNC as it is presented to you on CNN.

Why not make a new Red Skull that's a Middle Eastern warlord?

How about a new Haitian Dr. Doom? (Yeah, I know Doom's not technically white, but fuck if you can tell from the art)

How about a black Kingpin? Say what you want about the Daredevil movie, Michael Clarke Duncan was by no means a bad part of it.

Remember when Dr. Octopus and Stilt Man were women? How about some more of that? Wasn't there a female Hobgoblin running around recently, too? Of course, none of this actually matters, because fuck the chances of seeing anything but a genuinely evil (ie: not forced into it by the PATRIARCHY) female supervillain that isn't cis white and straight.

But, hey, that new GENUINELY EVIL (and also a white male) Venom sure is a breath of fresh air, ain't he?

>>89203996
The great void of the author's brain.

>>89186712
As long as it gets attention, even, and maybe, especially, negative attention!
Remember, kids, to Marvel there IS no bad publicity.

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>>89203951
I so rarely have an excuse to post this anymore.

Why does "quirky" always mean obnoxious?
Why can't there be likable female leads where their likability doesn't feel so fucking forced?

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>>89187666
you can fuck right off with that attitude.
anyone who's spent a moderate amount of time here, knows that all the PC positive shit it despised by the majority of this board.

>>89188719
>To be fair it was a guest artist,

That's really not an excuse.

>>89204145
check out Aracely from New Warriors

>>89204518
I don't like her though. She's fucking annoying.

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>>89187127
>Whoah that actually sounds pretty interesting...

Oh nevermind. This is just another feminist agenda. Just make it lacy green then to add to the rule 34

>>89202253
THIS.
re read a it with a canned laughter track in your head after every moronic line. It fits just like that.

>>89204001
Well they killed off Electro and replaced him with a clone of his girlfriend or something who's some kind of supervillain fangirl and there was that black Mysterio Mysterion (though we haven't heard from him since Mysterio got back from the Ultimate Universe) if that counts

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>>89189065
>616 has now become more removed and far stranger than most alternate universes shown

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>>89186712
>That copypasted face

>Hey, remember Empire Strikes Back, fellow kids?

>>89186850
YO MOMMA

>>89189645
616-7 was pre-Hickman's Secret Wars.
616-6 was where Galactus' mortal self Galan was born.
616-5 had a squid monster that possessed Wiccan. Which implies certain entities like Dweller-in-Darkness are survivors of such prior universes.

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>>89186712
I thought it was cute. Considering buying a copy.
Genuinely surprised /co/ didn't like it. Although granted, given the direction it sets for #2+ at the end doesn't look promising.

>>89206621
I think it's mostly that last bit that people are going to dislike, though some people just aren't happy with Mockingbird in general after that recent bullshit

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>>89202237
Did I stutter?

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>>89188145
My, how far Marvel has come.

>>89200921
Now see, this is actually funny because it successfully parodies the essential traits of the characters involved.
All you need to know is that Kraven is a consumate hunter who is obsessed with Spider-Man and Spider-Man is not above messing with his enemies.

The whole thing is neatly contained and isn't dependant on memes for its humor.

>>89198726
you're an idiot

>>89206738
lol what is this I like it

>>89190149
>8 is Marvel's 52

As of only the last couple of years. I don't think ANYONE except John Hickman played into this thematic number bullshit and 8 certainly didn't mean shit before he started his Avengers run

>>89204001
>WHERE ARE THE MINORITY VILLLAINS, MARVEL?
Isn't the person controlling the robot a minority?

>>89211891
And 52 didn't become DC's 52 until 52. In both cases, Morrison had a part to play in the designation and the connections didn't start becoming apparent until after the fact. That's the beauty of hypercrisis, senpai.

>>89199469
This. Everyone writing comics after the 60s were people who grew up reading those comics. Fuck, Wolfman even admitted that CoIE was a fanfic idea he had for YEARS before DC needed to clean house for their 50th and needed an idea as to how.

>>89199918
I also liked his work on wolverine when he picked up after Aaron, super bloody gory stuff. and his work on venom (he created mania), I think his venom stuff just gets looked on poorly because he had to follow rick remender, nobody deserves that.

>>89202237
/co/ STILL can't be mad at her for not wanting to fuck them, right?

>>89212123
Who?

>>89204001
i know this is bait, but its a very good question.

I really do wish they would actually have some high profile minority villains. It doesn't have to be Big NIGGER Gunman and Chingchong Chop; Karate Master either. There's literally nothing that mandates most of the villains to be white, so I expect to see some evil Latino Inhumans, and some Middle Eastern terrorist group that becomes a threat because some evil Persian diety got its hands on old Hydra tech.

Fuck, even remake the Mandarin like DC did Lex Luthor. Make him this evil Chinese businessman from a former family that had massive power before the communists came who games his countrymen into creating social unrest so he can make his business bigger. You have a believible rival to Tony Stark that speaks to both American fears (the Chinese becoming a superpower) and Chinese fears (someone undermining their glorious Party to actually hurt the people via capitalism).

IS IT THAT FUCKING HARD?

>>89212202
Kate Beaton.

Ages before gamergate was a thing, some /co/mrade came up to her at a con and told her that her work was so good, he wanted her to have his babies. Understandably, she commented on how socially uncalled for and gross that sounds, and /co/ flipped its shit over women being over-entitled and started the hate campaign on her and all female-artists. It was one of the main things that got /co/ into hating tumblr so hardcore.

>>89212333
>even remake the Mandarin like DC did Lex Luthor. Make him this evil Chinese businessman
Dude, they already did that.

>>89212408
Then why the fuck wasn't that in the movies?

>>89212398
>Understandably
tumblr pls

>>89204001

Michael Clarke Duncan was a goddamn treasure

>>89212436
I'll never understand why some people on /co/ don't understand why that's a weird and creepy thing to say to someone.

>>89212123
More like I'm ambivalent to her because she can't draw and isn't funny, but okay.

>>89212428
Because muh China markets

>>89212513
I think an evil Chinese capitalist trying to destroy The Party because MONEY would be an acceptable villain for Chinese markets.

>>89212491
Bitch, you should be grateful that any man even noticed you.

>>89212568
That's mighty ironic coming from you, piggy.

>>89212565
Do you seriously trust current Marvel to not fuck this up in the worst way possible

Do you seriously think Marvel will handle anything China related with care and respect

>>89212683
They already did in Doctor Strange.

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>>89186712
>/co/ hates this
>/co/ loves her
hmmm?

>>89212766
I don't love shit, don't put words in my mouth you disgusting waifufag.

>>89212766
>amerimanga
Weeaboo pls

>>89212709
Do you think that was handled well?

>>89212824
Oh yes! They removed any reference to Tibet and so they could show the movie in China!

>>89212766
Because Galacta is essentially 20 pages of internal narration from someone who's teen preggers

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>>89190321
There are multiple layers to this image. Not only are these Tau Skyrays, they are also just pictures of Skyray models the artist pasted into the comic. And to top it off he made the engines, missile launcher, and the drones on the sides too small. So he didn't use an image of a Skyray from one model, he took different parts and put them together into a composite.

>>89212491
Because it's just an expression, and it was probably 'gross' because it was made by a socially awkward person.

She made it into this weird feminist societal issue when in reality it's an issue with the kind of people that are attracted to these kinds of conventions in the first place: socially awkward nerds who don't know how to talk to anybody, let alone women.

He more than likely wasn't being sexist, he was just being beta.

>>89213060
I think it didn't become a feminist thing until other people where pulling the whole "It's a compliment, you frigid bitch" thing.

I'm sure the guy wasn't trying to be sexist; its just that people suddenly started white knighting the guy like she had slighted him by being uncomfortable about someone saying that to her.

>>89213060
>Because it's just an expression

NO IT'S NOT.

>>89212333
>Chingchong Chop

Trips confirmed. I'm stealing this idea.

>>89213111
The way I remember it, she made it about women and feminism pretty much immediately, which corresponds to her character pretty well. I could be wrong though.

>>89213112
Yeah it is. "Plz have my babies" has been a thing since before the internet. It's used to denote fondness and admiration.
It's kind of like how Lavren from Chvrches made a harangue about guys yelling out 'Marry me!' at their shows. It's not a sexism thing, it's a 'I'm attracted to you and you're extremely talented' thing.

>>89187367
wasn't there a comic where the flying fat girl met Hillary Clinton and they circlejerked about how strong and independent they were for a few pages? Is that the kind of cameo they want?

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>>89188537
>nobody got your joke
I'm so sorry, Anon. I thought it was funny.

>>89213338
>Yeah it is. "Plz have my babies" has been a thing since before the internet. It's used to denote fondness and admiration.

>This is what people who get all their knowledge of social interactions from TV and or comics honestly believe

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>>89206738
I got a few sensible chuckles from this 6/10

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>>89197562
I couldn't get two paragraphs in. I'm now making uncontrollable clicks and frenzied grunts while crying.

I hope you're happy

>>89187127
but scorn was a psychologist and isn't "science"
smart. controlling technology doesn't mean you should be on the list

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>>89213688
not saying it's a particularly funny or smooth thing to say, it's just something, particularly younger people, have said and probably still do say.

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>>89187421
I remember that page.

>>89214045
>Young people are retards

Gee whoda thunk. It's not something you'd say in a social situation and especially not to a stranger in front of a crowd of people. That's literal autism

>>89214131

ugh. You know self awareness can be a good think to have but there's an extreme too.

This just comes off as disingenuous

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>>89214131
This is fantastic.

>>89187599
including friends in a story is actually writing to your audience, they're more likely to read it if they're included

why else would you write unless it's for your own self-gratification (you shut in weirdo) or to get published (will never happen you failure)

>>89188264
About a year and a half before.

>>89204826
This is an excellent point, and, you know what? That female evil Electro? She's actually kind of interesting so far. I don't expect her to last, but I like seeing her.

>>89212333
>i know this is bait,

Why? Why is anything I said bait? Making a valid point that actually encourages discussion is not "bait." I'm actually angry that any time I see a group of villains gathered they're still all white men. I'm sick of it.

>>89214045
On the internet maybe. No-one does irl and if they do, they are right to be ridiculed.

>>89193186
The current Moon Knight series is fucking amazing, however once they complete this arc they need to move on to new themes or risk becoming stale.

>>89186712
Gipsy Danger?

>>89212989
They were lifted from the DoW games, he just sized up the main body but didn't bother doing it with anything else.

lol is this the new marvel comic superheroine


why is it so bad

>>89199918
Bunn's Venom was good.

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>>89186712
Did Marvel hire my mom?

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>>89189468
I like stories about the multiverse, but I mean come on!

>>89218531
>new marvel
You answered your own question.
Moon Knight is the only Marvel book left I give a damn about.

>>89190083
616-8 is unique in that it is a remade version of 616-7. Every iteration before that was a completely new universe, starting with a big bang and all that other shit that goes along with it.

>>89214883
>this is how joyless and unfunny feminist are

>>89186712
Wow, which webcomic is this?

>>89186876
lolno. I work in an office full of 20-somethings, most of them women, and nobody talks like that. Even in high school I never met anyone who talks like that!

>>89212398
>Understandably
Yes, it's understandable feminists can't handle jokes. If a female fan had approached a male artist and joked that she wanted to have his babies and he flipped out and whined about he would have been rightly ridiculed as well.

>>89187599
Sincerely?
Teenagers.
I was retarded as a teen, probably literally at the time because I got a concussion playing football.

>>89221279
>>89221279

>can't handle jokes

it's funny to hear this on /co/ which will have daily 500 post threads bitching about jokes in comics.

>>89186876
>actually considering any of this something a 20-year-woman would say

>>89214131
amazing stiltman when?

>>89202237

youre thinking of kate leth

>>89221450
That's different, their jokes are demoralizing and awful but ours are witty and insightful.

>>89204518
Aracely is the same kind of obnoxious shit.

Byrne's She-Hulk on the other hand is an actually good example.

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>>89206563
HE'S HERE. THE FIFTH WORLD OF BARNEYFAG HAS BEGUN. THE NIGHT OF ANGUISH THAT LASTS FOREVER.

>>89196395
Well, the Hobbit WAS meant as a fairy tale for his kids.

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>>89212398

Brohood means you can make vaguely sexual joke passes with you bros and it won't be gay. Obviously normie women would take offense.. if she feels your reproductive value isn't up to her standards.

Its not the joke, you're just not hot enough to make joke.

>>89212565
You had the Iron Nail a few years back.

>>89186712
WHO BUY THIS?! WHO THE FUCK BUY THIS SHIT?!!!

>>89225903
Women in their 30s who discovered tumblr a decade back and never grew out of it.

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>>89197562
Now that's a pasta I've not seen in a long time.

>>89226041
>tumblr will be 10 years old next month
Time flies

>>89186712
I honestly saw some people praising it and recommended to read it.
There are 2000 web comics were better written than this.

my problem is there are so many talented female indie comic creators out there and they have to get this bronyfag to write some sycophantic quirky bullshit
why doesn't tumblr/twitter care at all about real diversity in comics?

when will a woman writer take over Batman, Superman, Spider-Man, X-Men or Avengers in this day and age
in the 90s or something it was nbd but now women are only allowed to write women, LBGQs get all the gay/lesbian characters because god forbid there be someone bisexual or something ever more obscure and black writers only black characters

we are probably regressing as a society

>>89187331
When it's became popular to be considered geeks and autists?
"Oh, I am such a nerd, I liked all the Star Treks and played all the Marios"

>>89227624
part 2
they're not even consistent in their hypocracy
its such bullshit
Shade, the Changing Girl gets an all-female creative team, New Super-Man is written by a second generation Chinese immigrant teacher from a poor area of Oakland but these seemingly get no attention
but Coates on Black Panther or Leth on Hellcat do and that's utter horse shit
they push these meme writers without giving good diverse artists/writers a chance by putting a barneyfag on All-New Wasp, instead of using one of their established female characters, they want to push a cardboard cuttout of Zoe Deschandel

>>89186712
Wait, isn't Wasp as old if not older?
I'm really confused right now.

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>>89190321
My absolute favorite part of this image is how the articulated parts of the kit, the engines and weapons, are all scaled too small for the fuselage. Why? Did he think that we wouldn't notice if the silhouette was slightly different?

>>89186712
I wonder if our reaction is how the "squares" felt about the 60's kids. There's nothing new under the sun.

>>89220733
>this is how socially clueless shut-in autists are

>>89214131
>all are on a first-name basis with the God of Thunder!
And then he got replaced by Jane.

>>89187153
They want to appeal to the crowd that reads more fanfiction than published books and thinks many shipping fanfics are legit better than edited books

>>89228026
>lost worthy
>got cucked
everything checks out anon

>>89200921
She did get to write a part in that marvel bizarre comics or whatever it was called.
The one with Rogue using cuteness.

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>>89195114
Russia isn't a communist hellhole shut off from western influences any more. Anyone with enough access to the internet to know what fanfic is would know Harry Potter and Star Wars, if only through looking at the most popular fandoms listing by amount of fics

>>89227926
I don't think Star Wars and Harry Potter were part of her daily KGB super spy training. Also, might just be a Civil War reference.

>>89199803

Well, you can thank one man and hold him personally responsible for fucking up the entire Ultimates line - Jeph Loeb.

What a piece of shit. If it wasn't for him, we could've had another 5 years of good Ultimates comics.

>>89228273
the last good thing that they published was FIfe's little run and that was bad

I just wish writers would try to get characters vaguely right. Nearly everyone handles Kamala differently and it's jarring.

>>89229090
It's a metaphor for how the west views muslims. Everyone has something different to say

>>89186712
I wish I had not read that.

>>89228164
>Russia isn't a communist hellhole
It kind of a hellhole

>>89229740
Is it still a cp paradise?

>>89188617
Isn't she from another dimension or something?

>>89186850
Self proclaimed nerds with hipster glasses and dozens of Pop figurines on their shelf.

>>89190264
They'll get the references and ask why Wasp doesn't.

Kind of like how after Civil War people were pissy about Peter's comment regarding Empire because the kid should have known what it was.

>>89194846
If you're on 4chan chances are it was an A or bust
Unexpectedly high expectations even if you weren't some high achiever and only did it out of stress and fear

>>89212398
I love how everyone always gets the most important detail wrong. He said "I want to have YOUR babies". As in, he, a man, wanted to birth her, a woman's, babies. It was clearly tongue in cheek, but she still flipped out, then everyone decided it made more sense that he said the opposite, thus rebranding him a permacreep and her a saint retroactively.

>>89187127
Because they were looking do interviews with real woman for the letter-pages. The context is important champ.

He's still an asshole though.

>>89214190
>>89214883
That's exactly my point. They're socially retarded. It's not some feminist issue.

>>89229740
But at least they have internet and access to western shit now.

>>89213586
What can I say it's a doggy dog world.

>>89200921
I'm surprised they aloud this

>>89186712
JEEEEEEEEEEEESUS FUCCCCCCCKING CHRISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSST THIS IS TERRRRRRRRIBLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>89190321
>0
That's it,I'm fucking done with fucking Marvel,I'm going to DC. Lazy fucking artists,lazy SJW infested stories,and even lazier characterizations. They've completely bowdlerized the X-Men,and they've fucked up the continuity due to the overrated,bald,overpaid hack known as Bendis. He can't FUCKING WRITE TEAM BOOKS! They should know that shit and TAKE HIM OFF FROM THE FUCKING TEAM BOOKS! I swear to Christ that Marvel's just trying to ruin the comic books at this point,with sheer fucking incompetence due to every semi-competent writer and artist leaving. This hackery is Geoff Johns level of shit art,taking fucking stock photos and putting a filter over them,I swear to god I'm so done with everything. I'd still read Marvel just for the X-Men,but they've RUINED that too,by letting Bendis get his scummy fingers,and greedy Disney execs influence the comics by SIDELINING the X-men due to the movie rights issue,and trying to replace them with the Inhumans,which is a huge fucking mistake due to the fact the the Inhuman books NEVER SELL. I hope Marvel has to come begging back to us,for fucking with the continuity to please a audience that never existed in the first place. And the whole Fantastic Four debacle is even more evidence of this conspiracy which some of the obviously paid off Marvel shills on this board even know. Civil War 2 SHOWCASES everything wrong with current Marvel. It's a shitty cash grab that kills major heroes who clearly are going to come back just to temporarily increase sail numbers at the inevitable resurrection. The book smacks you over the head with desperate attempts to reach the Tumblr demographic,and butchery of established characterization,plus,it's overpriced to boot. This blatant ripoff of a actually good franchise sent me over the edge. I'm done,I'm heading to DC.

>>89231429
Get out here Hunter Zolomon

>>89231526
>This hackery is Geoff Johns level
>I'm going to DC
Make up your mind.

>>89186712
Why do so many Marvel books have this really ugly coloring style?

>>89200921
>>89206738
this is revoltingly terrible.

>>89211695
I love how much you're capable of telling apart from a person's grammar.

>>89186712
I just looked it up and #13 of the comic consist of high-school girl convincing people to go to the elections waving American flag. It's the most boring and not exciting thing in the world. Also there was a phrase "Hydra hipster".

After MCU I seriously considered to get into marvel comics, but now I consider to bang my head against the wall.

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Here's one thing that bothers me that nobody ever talks about

Teen Titans. New Teen Titans. Wolfman and Perez go and take a bunch of sidekicks, some new characters, and a couple of nobodies for the team. It's well rounded and each character is interesting by their strengths and flaws. Cyborg is arguably the powerhouse of the team, and yet he is a very angry individual who fucking hates his life. Robin is easily the most experienced, right next to Kid Flash, but both live in their hero's shadow. For Kid Flash, he has to deal with the legacy of carrying the entire Flash mantle after Barry died in Crisis while also going his own identity crisis what with the fact that he's not really a kid anymore. Robin is trying to branch out from Batman and is better off compared to Wally, but he forces himself to be the leader of the team when he clearly is in way over his head. Starfire is an alien war machine who follows a philosophy devoted to compassion and understanding. Raven is the literal daughter of a demon, using powers that are literally evil in origin to try and do good and defy her ultimate fate of becoming like her father.

This is a team. These are well thought out characters. Each is unique, each has their own personality, and most importantly their personalities and backgrounds lend themselves to great character arcs. And each character is interacting with other members, their identities clashing just as much as they clash against the forces of evil. None of them are perfect, but as we read about their adventures and connect to their personalities we feel for them when they try to overcome their problems. You grow with the characters.

Compare this to everything going on with Marvel's current Teen books. Specifically the quasi-team found in Wasp but also Champions. Who are these people? Why should we care? Why are they important? They're all the same "misunderstood/misrepresented teen hero" archetype just with a different costume

>>89228164
>Gundam Wing
Figures the fujoshits fall for the most mediocre series in the franchise because of the fujobait.

>>89231797
>They're all the same "misunderstood/misrepresented teen hero"
Why do we have so many of those? I am so sick tired of seeing high school again and again and again and again. It's all blend into one big lump of nothingness

>>89195553
Harry Potter was also translated into Russian. There's absolutely no reason for her not to know this shit.

Also Kamala casually drops references to things non-stop.

>>89195114
Harry Potter and Star Wars are pretty huge in Russia. She would most likely miss the original Star Trek reference or something.
And why there are so many goddamn references to random stuff? What is it, funny youtube anime parody?

>>89214131
When was this drawn?

>>89186712
So this is the best selling heroes for last decades? Are comics dead at this point?

>>89186712
Who the fuck wrote this?

>>89232238
DC is outselling Marvel right now. DC is pretty good at the moment.

>>89231919
Because it's easy to write. Maturity is a very easy arc to right, especially if you're character is literally going through puberty. The irony being that these characters will perpetually be the same age for like 10 years before some writer tosses in a birthday for them.

>>89231919
>We want the Spider-Man audience

>>89186712

this is why I am an X-fag in spite of how bad their comics have been for years
I like comics that are heavy shit, genocide, apartheid, aids + soap opera + sexual fetishes.

the avengers verse generally never gives me anything of that, everything feels very light.

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>>89197562
I love how this just degrades into Rickyisms

>>89231662
It's supposed to be retro I guess.