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So what was the point of this character?

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So what was the point of this character?
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>>89139961
To hit people with giant green trucks
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>>89139961
>"We wanted a Kamala Khan"
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We already had 4 other earth lanterns who could do that.
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>>89140087
He predates her by a year.
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>>89139961

Johns self instert
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>>89139961

So Johns can say he created a human lantern before he leaves.
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>>89139961
to make a bunch of vehicle constructs

Simon is better than Hal Kyle and John at least
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>>89139961
they needed a black character
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>>89140133
Same basic idea behind Kamala's creation, not saying they wanted to rip her off
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I thought that was Hal.
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They already had a black guy.
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>>89140254
an interesting black character
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>>89140254

But John isn't a muslim.
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>>89139961
> muslim
> tattoos
uhhhhh
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>>89139961
When he was created it was for no reason, but now he's one of a pair of rookie GL beat cops. He's like a good version of John Stewart

>>89140087
>>89140205
Literally changing your story from one post to another.
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>>89139961
Create Geoff Johns as a DC character.
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>>89140323
he got them to rebel
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>>89140302
This
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>>89140003
/thread
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Wtf is with this top panel? Aquaman is the only one paying attention to him.
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>>89140323
He's not a very "good" muslim.

He's born and raised in Deerborne Michigan, and while he's felt alienated post 9/11, he never radicalized, if anything, he started acting out in the other direction. Hell, given what he went through, the fact that he STILL hasn't ever radicalized should earn him a goddamn medal.

He's a good character, despite having had a pretty "very special episode" origin, and his supporting cast is good, too.
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I like Baz because he always has that temptation to use the ring for his own personal gain but has enough will power to reject that.

I enjoy reading his struggle and that he's kind of afraid. It'd be like if Hal after didn't go Parallax after Emerald Coast.

I like Jessica too. She's afraid in other ways but more courageous than any of them in a lot of instances because she over comes her fear.

Hal just mostly never feels it. I think when Kyle was more new he was like that.
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>>89140537
They're exchanging looks of "what the hell is this guy's deal, he's mouthy but not the villain we were told he was".

Arthur was raised to be politer than that.
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>>89140537
Superman, Cyborg, and Wonder Woman plan their next threesome. Aquaman is sad he isn't invited.
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>>89140598
The brave man is not the one who never feels fear. It's the one who feels fear and overcomes it.

I still don't get why these "I've never felt any fear ever or had any problems because I have the willpower and personality of a rock" types keep getting pushed as "paragons of willpower", when willpower is all about actually suffering the pangs of fear or temptation or whatever and OVERCOMING IT.
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>>89140568
So...
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>>89140675
He has Mera and some Dolphins.


He'll cope.
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>>89140690
Probably because Hal and Guy are too stupid to feel fear, Jon rarely emotes outwardly, and Kyle is having too much fun.

Jessica and Baz are character that are kind of defined by their fears, but in different ways.
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>>89140692
It's taken a while, but even a fair number of the people that were spazzing out about OMIGOD A MUSLIM GL HE'S GONNA GREEN SUICIDE BOMB VEST ERREBODY when he was first announced and came out have come around to liking him.

I don't know. Assimilation and feeling ostracized and societal acceptance/rejection and religious radicalization are all pretty big and complex issues, and for a comic book character, they've done a pretty decent job with him and his supporting cast.
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Superman and Wonder Woman are having a threesome with the nigger when they get home. Arthur isn't invited because he's gay and smells like fish.
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>>89139961
He is Geoff Johns.
Johns had a little sister, he is half lebanese, and he said he suffered by racism when he was a kid.
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>>89140846
It's also why he named Stargirl after her, after she died in 96 in an accident.
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>>89140328
he meant, i'm guessing, that they, much like marvel, wanted a character type like that. it's like if kamela was first and he said simon instead.
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>tfw black dude
>tfw Green lantern is favorite comic hero
>tfw black green lantern actually exists and is far and away the worst fucking one

why is this allowed
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>>89140451
Simon, you rad motherfucker, you.
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Also Johns is from Detroit Michigan and Baz is from Deerborn Michigan. Not even trying to hide that Simon is his self insert lel
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>>89139961

When are they going to put out a green Lantern by Geoff johns complete collection? The omnibi are long out of print
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>>89141089

well yeah, pretty sure he mentioned when Simon debuted that he was one
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>>89140994
Because you have the Original And Best who gets everything, the loose cannon, the down to earth one and the foppy twat. Just happens the black guy is the down to earth one.
Only counting the main four because too many fucking human lanterns now.
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>>89139961
>Green Lanterns can make anything they think of
>99% of them do nothing but shoot lasers at each other
>Muh airplanes
>Muh boxing gloves
>Muh marine career
>muh trucks
>Guy is basically too stupid to live
>Jessica can barely make a construct at all

How does Kyle manage to be the only good ringslinger?
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>>89141224
jessica makes japanese porn constructs
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>>89141224
Artist, and weeaboo

Consumed too much media to do anything else.
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What's with all the John hate in this thread? I've always liked him. He isn't a meathead like Guy and isn't a Mary Sue like Kyle.
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>>89141224
Creativity and imagination are actually in shorter supply than we'd like to think, anon.

Kyle is the only actual artist/creative type in the roster.

There you go.

(John is 2nd place, and he's an Architect, so the best he can manage for "creative skills" is actually assembling all his constructs from individual pieces, just like the real thing.)
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I've never read a green lantern book before. Is Green Lanterns worth picking up?
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>>89141315
It's a fun buddy cop book, so yeah.
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>>89141304
boring

>>89141311
>Creativity and imagination are actually in shorter supply than we'd like to think, anon.
so we need to scarifice some kind of creativity entity to get more imagination for the lanterns?
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>>89141304
I like Jon when he's in a group, because I always appreciate the straight man in a group of eccentrics.

By himself, he's just too stoic for his own good.
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>>89140143
I could swear that was Hal.
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>>89139961
DC should just give up the ghost and have a Green Lantern of every race and creed. There are so many human lanterns it hardly matters anymore.
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>>89140143
this

It's when we found out that Johns is half lebanese on his dad's side
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>>89141397
Isn't willpower pretty much the creative core? Yellow and orange are the only ones that tend to make constructs. Reds, except Rankorr are too angry, Sapphires tend to stick to light shows and crystals, Blues are functionally useless alone and I haven't seen much constructing from indigo
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>>89141471
There was an episode of Batman Beyond of something iirc where the new justice league had a little asian monk boy as the new lantern, so that's pretty much already been done. White, Black, East Asian, Hispanic, Middle-Eastern. I guess the only ones we're missing are south Asian and polynesian
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>>89139961
>He's a Muslim! Diverse!
>And he carries a gun! Edgy!
>And he was caught driving a car with a bomb in it! Ironic!
>And now they're going to waterboard him! Topical!
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Read Humphries Green Lanterns.
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>>89141662
>Read Humphries
Lol no
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Yes. Green Lantern has lots of bright and flashy colors, cool powers, and aliens. Just don't expect a plot that goes any deeper than punch the bad guys.
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>>89141662
why would i read mediocre garbage
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>>89141681
>>89141689
Not my deal if you want to put your Marvel prejudice on a writer. Your loss.
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>>89140568
>what he went through, the fact that he STILL hasn't ever radicalized should earn him a goddamn medal
>radicalism apologist
No one should be expected to radicalise. No one should be rewarded for not becoming radical. Radical islam needs a bullet.
Super simple stuff.
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>>89141716
Kill yourself namefag.
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>>89141471
>DC should just give up the ghost and have a Green Lantern of every race and creed.

It's actually gotten fairly diverse by this point, except that all of them are Americans.
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>>89141737
>apologist

Really? Well, okay, whatever.
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>>89141211
>Way too many human lanterns

dude do you know how many fucking apocalypses earth has at this point they've earned the extra cosmic manpower by virtue of being a planet-sized equivalent of a hellmouth.
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>>89141807
My lore is a little hazy, but isn't Earth at the centre of the Universe too? It's where all the shit is drawn to.
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>>89141807
Fair point, but Dex aside how many non-Human Terrestrial lanterns are there? What about a Martian lantern, since it's only one planet away? It's a rich universe without even getting into crazy extra-dimesional and magic stuff for non-Humans, even if most are just Humans but not Human coloured.
GLs are best when looked at in the big scale where you've got aliens like Killowog and Tomar playing major roles and feeling more unique for it because there's not a dozen of them.
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An answer to Kamala in a marvel-esque attempt at headline grabbing diversity. Fortunately DC decided it doesn't play that shit.
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To have a really ugly overall design.
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>>89139961
NuMale movement

the sissyfication of white males
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>>89142537
(You)
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>>89142479
they have black power teen for that

which one came first tho her or kamala?
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>>89142479
As it was said earlier in the thread, Simon predates Kamala by a 1-2 years.
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>>89139961
In 20 years, there are going to be more human lanterns than non-human ones.
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>>89140300
>an interesting black character
>an interesting character
>interesting character
>interesting
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>>89141224
Rings are powered by will power, but that's not how they search out candidates. They pick GLs based on "the ability to overcome great fear", which is similar, but not quite the same thing. Lanterns 1,2, and 3 were a test pilot, a soldier, and a policeman. They do dangerous things, but aren't afraid, hence "overcoming great fear". But soldiers and policemen aren't picked for their creativity. They're picked for their ability to fall in line and follow orders. Kyle's an artist, an exception to the rule, and that's why his constructs are all so creative.
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>>89140451
wtf I love Simon now?
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>>89142218
The Martians are all dead anon.
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>>89144437

and Kyle was literally "first dude Ganthet saw"
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>>89141922
No amigo, Oa is the center of the universe. Think of earth as the shitty house, on the worst street corner in the most crime infested city in the world, ofcourse they'd have more cops
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>>89139961
>JLU series made John Stewart popular and wanted in all the new shit.
>Johns does not like Stewart and wanted to push Hal hard.
>He wanted to kill off John Stewart causing writers to quit
>created this to avoid race issues
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>>89141681
>>89141689
No joke, it's actually kind of okay. Compared to most of his Marvel output, it's downright good.
I think when he moved to DC, he was killed and replaced.
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>>89142218
There's only a few Martians left in DC. The fact that their race is still alive in Young Justice was why Green Beetle was a thing.
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>>89140323
Plenty of muslims get tattoos, just like plenty of people from other religions don't always strictly follow their basic beliefs. The founder of the predecessor to ISIS had tattoos before he went super devout.
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>>89144392
Yes, interesting.

Y'know, that thing Simon is and John isn't?
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>>89148407
Islam haters tend to assume every Muslim follows every stupid fucking rule in their book. They're either edgy fedora tippers, or idiots since their holy book probably has some stupid rules too.
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>>89148465
Anon, liking John is fine. I like Spider-Man, so I can hardly talk about shit taste, but there's no excuse for lying.
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>>89145500
Oa is geographically the center of the universe.

But Earth is the origin point of the universe, because Christianity is canon in DC. God made Earth first and Earth houses the White Lantern Entity to which all life is tethered.
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>>89139961
diversity basically
the basic premise of the character could be interesting
Sinestro was looking for someone like him, but Hal got in the way so in a way Simon is like half Sinestro half Hal
but honestly no writer but Johns knows what kind of character that is, and in his final arcs in GL he was more focused on just ending things than building characters
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>>89148547
I didn't say you can't like John.

I said he's not interesting.

Lying would be to dispute that. Unless you want to talk about the animated series or Mosaic, neither of which are currently canon.
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John exists simply to whine about how much he hates being a lantern, misses his dead squid-wife, and would rather be an architect. He needs to fuck off back to being a civilian and never heard from again.
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>>89148647
>squid-wife

I don't remember that about Katma...
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>>89148598
Exactly, Anon. You are literally saying what I said.
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>>89141224
give Lanterns their own type of style they like to use their rings like
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>>89148696
I don't understand why you worded it the way you did, it came off like you were calling me a liar.
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>>89148671
No, he's new one. They didn't marry I guess I should've said squid-gf
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Did he finally get rid of that retarded ass gun?
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>>89144392
no you misread what I was trying to say that yeah they had a black character, but he was boring. I didn't get the meme arrow in though
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>>89148730
Wait...did John seriously get with one of those boring fucking Nu52 recruits after Fatality broke up with him?
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>>89148733
Not yet I think, but character development is working up to it.
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>>89148191
yep

http://greenlantern.co/joshua-hale-fialkov-confirms-dc-editorial-planned-to-kill-green-lantern-john-stewart/
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>>89148758
Even worse, one of them pretended to be Fatality and he was so desperate to get back with her he ended up banging the squid-spy for a few months before finding out.
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>>89148820
Ohhhh you're talking about the fuckin' Durlans. I thought it was that GL broad with the tentacle hair and goggles.
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>>89148817
That's kind of sad. I like they direction they've taken the character in the past year or so. Being a field leader really seems to fit him.
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>>89148878
>I like they direction they've taken the character in the past year or so
generic angry military man?
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>>89148910
Well, I was thinking more along the lines of level headed decision maker but I guess we read things differently.
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>>89140451
This is actually the secuond time. The first he hits Sinestro in that prison cube for Voltron
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>>89148362
His DC output is better partly because DC's editorial is more competent.
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>>89140003

Nailed it. And shoot Sinestro with a gun.
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>>89140451

We are gonna need a collage of these at some point.
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>>89141681

Humphries has been REBIRTHED. Work for DC and you suddenly become fit and a better writer or artist. Green Lanterns is one of the best book coming out and I can't believe that dog fucker is writing it.
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>>89148713
This. Not like hurr he was an architects so his constructs have inner workings and this ones an artists.Those things only boiled down to what kind of thing they use to hit something with. No, let them have their indicidual fighting styles with that weppon that can do literally anything.
But that would require more imagination then to think about what themed thing can be used to throw at someone
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>>89140763

Well, I mean, in terms of large scale terror attacks driving a truck into people is basically the new suicide vest.
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>>89140987
The only thing they have in common is their religion. The op makes no sense.
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>>89141224
Why reinvent the wheel if lasers works 99% of the time?
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>>89141922
Center of the multiverse.
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>>89142218
There was that whale lantern in, I want to say but I'm not sure, Animal Man.
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>>89148565

Earth is the Lynchpin of the Multiverse, destroy Earth and you can make a multidimensiona; cascade

Im surprised the Guardians never parked Oa just outside Mars.
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>>89139961
to be less lame than the other human lanterns
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>>89140537
>He's a green lantern alright
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>>89139961
diversity
what else... he sucks
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