Weekend /co/ creation thread

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-More discussion about Golden Girl and related characters
-New pics
-Getting Bess Knees' shit together, the time line of his superhero career
-Talking about Motion
-More new pics

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Oh, it's going to be another slow thread.

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I would like to introduce for the consideration of the anon's here a new character into the Golden Girl lore.
Her name is Maxine Anderson, She comes from a neighboring city, is a detective for the police department there, & is Audrey's long lost maternal aunt.

While on vacation to Platinum City she witnesses Silver Queen & Golden Girl fighting a villain, Seeing GG she thought to herself that she look alot like her sister at that age. Using her skills she tracks down GG and finds out GG is her missing niece Audrey.

She is meant to be a supporting character who shows up from time to time when SQ or GG need a hand with a clue

>>89129492
If she had any living relatives, then she'd have to go live with them instead of Silver Queen.

>>89129972
not if they cant take care of them. you try raising a teenage girl on a cop's salary. most likely they keep it a secret.

>>89129972
Yeah, she'd represent a massive plot hole if she were included.

>>89126814
thast a neat desing

>>89129972
>>89130012
ok. i see what you mean. but what if Aunt Maxine chooses to let GG stay with Silver Queen? that is possible

>>89130079
Considering the time period it takes place in, it just wouldn't work.

>>89130079
The character comes across as being very contrived for very little plot benefit. Coming from someone who doesn't even like the GG stuff, I can see she's not anything beneficial.

>>89130167
>>89130401
i guess you guys are right, Aunt Maxine is a bad idea

>>89126814
>The Bee's Knees is still a thing
nice

>>89129492
Audrey is like Robin. She needs to be an orphan.
Not to mention that Audrey being the savvy detective compared to the more blind Sarah is already underplayed. Adding another adult that's more on the ball would make that even worse.

>>89130460
We talked about him a lot last thread and how his personal plot ended up being darker than anyone thought.

>>89130830

a goofy character in a gritty setting has more appeal than a edgy character in a edgy setting or a fun character in a fun setting, simply because if you are playing the superpower roulette, you don't always get to decide what powers you'll get, it shouldn't be necessarely be that the powers fit the setting or vice versa, which is the case with BK and his knee stingers or his rouge gallery.

Same with the personality, if the personality doesn't fit the setting, then its obvious the character is gonna have to struggle to stay true to his principles, normaly you'd just have an archenemy who would constantly challange your beliefes but it can also be that the setting itself is constant challange for the character.

I'm not suggesting to go full edge, I think something like Tim Burtons Batman or even Gotham would be more interesting.

>>89131154
Right now just a rough order of events in his personal plot have been worked out (which took place over years of off-and-on discussion).

By the time the Venus Fly Trap "arc" rolls in, Bees Knees is going through some depression over the trauma the final fight he had against The Cat's Pajamas left him with.

We've focused on the events and how they change the character, but not the character during those events.
How does Bees Knees act in battle? Is he like Spiderman with the banter or is he more silent?

Will he ever get elbow stingers with a natural evolution of his powers?

>>89126814
Fuck yes, we need more Bee's Knees. He and Appladay were always my favorites.

>>89130830
Oh. Had no idea it might have taken that direction.

>>89132174
Last thread, for however long it remains in the onsite archives
>>89006510
>>89006636
>>89009224
>>89009289
>>89021372
>>89054849
>>89068989

I really do want to develop more of the earlier parts of BK's story line. There's so much that happens before VFT ever comes into the picture.

>>89133026
Thanks!

>>89131363

we can split his character development in some phases.

phase 0 would be before he even got his powers, he is supposed to have some sickness or something, it would be obvious if he was a rather shy, depressed kid at this point but he could also be more hero-like rather positive thinking character despite his sickness, I guess he would nevertheless have the desire to be a hero.

phase 1 should be right after he gets his powers but before he wears any form of mask. It is the test phase where he tries different things out to test his increased mobility, maybe while getting more popular in school while ignoring his friends, they have their own problems with their powers anyway and would appear later.

phase 2 is his first contact with cat pajamas and at the same time realizing that Meow is part of the cats craddle. While trying to find her, he learns more about the more dangerous side of the city and starts wearing a mask to hide his identity, he also tries to find cats craddles and has some fights with them.

phase 3, things escalate, cats craddle has been causing more chaos in the criminal underworld which also affects the public, meanwhile BK is trying to safe meow yet he can't reach her because she seems to be mind controled.

phase 4 thise is where BK really gets desperate, he can't find anything about Pajamas, the true about him or his intentions, he only can helplessly watch how Pajamas uses Meow to do outragerous things and to keep BK at distance, BK had even to fight Meow himself. Also BK so far didn't win a single fight against Pajamas, they always fight at his terms and BKs inexperience makes it even more easy for Pajamas to control BKs every move.

Phase 5 things change, as it seems something very big went down in the criminal underworld, people think it was a dispute between organizations or something like that, yet noone knows for certain, some think it was Pajamas but he didn't take throne, he has been acting like a normal criminal since.

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>>89133429

BK after all his investigations doesn't know anything either, about the true of Pajamas and his revenge that was taking place the whole time and that is now over.

end of the arc, BK finally manages to catch up to pajamas and they have their last fight, BK things he has gotten stronger but it was just Pajamas who got weaker. Still Pajamas pushes BK to his limits also insisting that Meow will never be free as long as he lives. It ends with Pajamas death.

My idea was basically that this is more personal for BK and it ends with BK knowing nothing, why it all happened, why the monster called Pajamas did exist and why he did the things he did. BK felt powerless because all seemed to happen as it was supposed to and he couldn't do anything to change it, even Pajamas death seemed like something that was meant to be and BK had no other choice than to play his role.

The VFT arc would be the complete opposite as BK is gonna learn more about someone else and he'll try to understand someone else.

>>89133429
Before phase 3 is when other characters need to come in, like all the other characters created at the same time Bees Knees was that were made by be his extended cast.

While Bees Knees can't go after Cat's Cradle (they're laying low or something) he has to deal with all the other supers created by the sky laser.
This is where team ups with Appladay come into play.

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Well this sunk to page 10 in a hurry.

>>89134751

also a side plot with da bomb as well, who is causing trouble, mindlessly using his powers which are already dangerous to begin with.

>>89126814

I want to know more about this weirdo.

>>89136739
http://the-conservatory.wikia.com/wiki/Bees_Knees

>>89136673
>Da Bomb - Bees Knees' best friend was walking home from school when he fell into a puddle of toxic waste. When he wokes up, he found he could literally explode parts of his body over and over again. A cocky, arrogant black teen, he refers to himself in third person whenever he's in his hero persona. He's fond of non sequitur explosive puns. Kind of loud, but outgoing and fun to be around.

Hmm, I need to edit Bees Knees' wiki page for grammar sometime in the near future.

But anyway, that's what we know about Da Bomb. Where the hell is he in all this? We need to work in all those other characters.

Da Bomb seems to have some similarities with Bombastic and Bomb Shell. I guess we've been slacking on making explosive powers unique, kind of like how electrical powers are always the same.
At least he doesn't have electrical powers.

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I have a sketch of Millennial Man that I'll be posting later. I can't remember if I posted this She-Thulhu sketch last thread.

>>89137220
you did

>>89133026
>Oh sweet, people working on Bee's Knees
>Drug addiction
>Overly serious/edgy shit
FUCKING NOPE

>>89138504
Which brings us back to >>89131363

We need quips and jokes and stuff for him.

Anyone got any new superhero or supervillain ideas for the /co/verse?

>>89139215
I think we can use more villains

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I saw this posted last week. Old Man /co/nrad sounds fun. What does the rest of the /co/verse look like?

>>89139349
I could get behind that.

Hot Tomali - An elderly Mexican guy who fell in a volcano and got fire powers. Serves as Bees Knees mentor.

Somebody needs to draw this asap. He is a Bee's Knees villain

>>89140409
Sorry, he's bk mentor

>>89140409
No one has ever drawn him yet? I recall the name from like, the first or second thread.

>>89138504
Yeeeah... maybe I'll just wait until this is developed then we could, maybe, talk about a "saturday morning" version?

>>89140778
Nothing on the conservatory that I could find.

>>89139349
>>89139542
So what, we just open up the floor to ideas?

>>89141179
Why not? well lets start, with whose rogue's gallery should this be?

Any females in the thread? If so, what is the most disgusting thing ever done and may still do today?

>>89140409
>>89140778
None of the supporting BK characters save for BK and the members of Cat's Cradle have ever been drawn.

Same with most of Appladay's enemies in the Orchard of Evil.

>>89141616
Well, I've had this stupidly goofy idea in my head for a while now. I'll just toss it out there and see if there's someone it could work for.

>The Manmoth! Half man, half moth, half mammoth, ALL EVIL.

>>89145572
what does the man-moth look like?

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>>89145572
>>89147833
Man Moths?!

>>89131363
Reminds me that I'd enjoy seeing if VFT manages to build on original powerset after redemption.

Maybe Venus has subtle healing AoE on those nearby, as to improve abilities of others in fights.

>>89149528
I'm more interested in getting BK's personality on better footing.

Sure, the story looks "dark and edgy" but that's doesn't mean BK is "I am the night" levels as a character.
He doesn't brood, but anons I assume think he does with all the story that he's not wrapped up in.
He needs to be able to take it in stride with jokes and stuff up until Cat's Pajamas dies or something.
I'm not too clear on that, does Cat's Pajamas commit suicide by hero, try to do that, kills himself in front of BK who fails to save him, or what?
Whatever it is, that's when the depression hits him and the VFT arc starts.

But I want to know more about what happens before all that with characters with stupid names and even more stupid costumes.

Here's hoping the thread survives the night.

>>89143244
At least DaBomb was sketched in the first or second thread, no? Granted it was either a small doodle or I just had the thumbnail, but I meant anything at all.

>>89145572
So our first villain creation is The Manmoth! He should be an 8 foot tall black dude with the posture of Urkle from family matters. Very skinny/slender but eccentric to the point of being ridiculously creepy.

>>89151337
His power could be the creation of cocoon batter from his mouth that he can puke at people to harden them in place!

>>89150742

BK isn't edgy, its the the world he gets suckt into that is dark and gritty, specially the Cats Craddle-arc but I think there are lessons to be learnt from this experience, atleast if he actually manages to make it through, this also elevates Pajamas from a villian of the week to someone crucial for BKs character development.

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A teenager with attitude discovers a glowing coin in a cave where he was ditching class and drinking beer. Once he touches the magic coin he morphs into Sentai a Go-Go! The evil power armor wearing, robot piloting badguy! Pic just for reference

>>89136348
Because /coc/ is a dead horse on /co/

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An idea for a BK villian.

Flycatcher aka Nerina Brighten
Nerina is a smalltime thief. But while robbing a chinese merchant something called for her. It guided her towards an ancient chinese lantern.
While she investigated it and thought how much it is worth, she is surprised by some security men.
Not knowing what to do, she instinctly waved the lantern. Immediatly the men stopped and were kinda fascinated by the glowing latern, till they touched it and got electrified and stunned.

Now she is on a robbing spree as "The Flycatcher" making men and women dizzy and hypnotise insect heros with her morningstar like Lantern.

>>89151771
I too love Viewtiful Joe.

>>89152459
Even a dead horse is right twice a day.

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>>89154673

>>89126866
I wonder if there's any secret cameras on Collette or in that house that Tats planted there?

Like a perverted KGB or Stasi operative.

>>89154673
A phrase like that is a diamond dozen

>>89151049
Was he? I don't recall.

>>89151759
The Cat's Cradle conflict is what's going on concurrently with all the other stuff. Between dishing out puns and meeting new characters with ever increasing bad pun names, BK is on the look out for Cat's Cradle waiting for them to make their next move.

>>89152710
What about trapping people inside the lantern?

>>89150742
>I'm not too clear on that, does Cat's Pajamas commit suicide by hero, try to do that, kills himself in front of BK who fails to save him, or what?

Pajamas has his own story. It is practically, a vengeance story like gungrave.

Before he got his cat head, Pajamas was a criminal in a bigger crime organization who was working his way up to the top, he was also known as the butcher because he always carried two short axs. The true was that he already was planning his revenge because the organization killed his father when he was younger, he was trying to reach the top, gain more influence and get closer to those who did it but he gets killed before, a headshot, the END.

or not, here I'm not sure how he gets revived, I thought a witch sensed in him a strong spirit and she revived him under the condition that she gets soul once he dies. Given that his head was blown off, he gets a cat head and cat-like powers, which means enhanced strength and agility but also 9 lives and the ability to control cats.

The problem is, with every live he loses, his powers also start to vannish, he gets weaker and at 1 live, other than his appereance he is no different than a normal human.

BK only gets involved because Pajamas takes control over Meow who is a close friend to BK but at the end of the day, BK is more like a side-character to Pajamas story.

Pajamas then actually manages to take his revenge but at the same time he lost almost all of his lives, he also has been losing control over Meow which is why he only has been using her occasionally but most of the time he keeps her in some form of prison. Pajamas then keeps being a criminal because this is what he has knows almost his whole life but he really has no drive for anything now that he had accomplished his goal and this leads to the final fight between Pajamas and BK.

>>89155096
BK doesn't know anything about Pajamas, his plan or his past and Pajamas has been playing BK like a fiddle and he did beat him up occasionally but the fights had been getting even, nevertheless Pajamas had do Meow some horrible things and at this point BK only felt rage and despair.

Pajamas pretty much doesn't care if he dies yet he has been partly an animal for a long time and at this point he is a wounded animal at that. Which means he'll fight back even if he doesn't want to, his animal instincts will take control for the last time.

>>89154797
>What about trapping people inside the lantern?
Good idea. Thought she would use it as a melee weapon. But trapping would be interesting and maybe dangerous.

Someone post the minus 8 gif.

>>89154763
>The Diamond Dozen
>A gang of indestructible, super strong crystalline mobsters

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>>89155853

>>89156075
Why does this need to be here? This is pretty blatantly /aco/.

>>89155096
>but at the end of the day, BK is more like a side-character to Pajamas story.
That's no good. BK is the audience focus, anything Pajamas does needs to be revealed to us through BK's perspective.

Getting bits of Pajamas' story drip fed between the usual BK stories feels like a more natural integration. With each big crime Cat's Cradle commits, BK learns a little bit more about them.
Hip Cat is a possible source of information since she isn't under Pajamas' thrall like Cat's Meow is. Though, why is she working for him?

These are questions BK should ask during the story.

>>89156744
I think that is a GoldenGirl fan.
GG is at the moment not so interesting, i guess. He hopes interst will start again.

>>89156824
>That's no good. BK is the audience focus, anything Pajamas does needs to be revealed to us through BK's perspective.

of course the story would be told from BKs perspective and he'd be as clueless/knowledgeable as the reader to the very end of the arc. I just outlined Pajamas story because it should have a clear structure even if we don't see it, we should atleast be able to perceive that Pajamas has a goal and is not acting at random. Maybe a side story could explain Pajamas and his circumstances later without BK knowing in-universe.

>Though, why is she working for him?

I always thought Hip Cat would be the one with actual cat-like character, which means she is kinda flickle, playful and just does what she feels like doing, kinda like Catwoman.

>>89157121
I still think Hip Cat is a good way for the audience and Bees Knees to become more in the know about the situation.

>>89158001

maybe about some things but not about all, as I doubt Pajamas is gonna tell her everything, specially about his past.

>>89156075
Why is Golden Girl bouncing on a spacehopper with no pants on? That's just silly

>>89155948
Is Doggy Dog an accomplice of there's in this World?

>>89158335
She lost it because of the spacehopper.
She forgot to secure her waistband.

>>89159506
No, for just so many reasons. The major one being making Sarah a lesbian WOULD GIVE HER CODE IMMUNITY, YOU IMBECILE.

>>89160628
>>89155948
I smell a villain war brewing.

>>89126814
Hank Venture? Is that you?

>>89162210
>Bee's Knees wearing a fake beard and passing himself off as Russian Guyovitch

>>89163399
You know, I could see him doing that to get into a villain bar.

>>89163758
Would it work?

/Co/verse Comics presents Villain War. Sounds pretty good

>>89165235
It might.

Depends on the joke and set up for the situation.

Any speedster in the /Co/verse, good or bad?

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>>89166341
Rage Racer and Blue Shift both come to mind.

One's a Justice /co/mrade, the other is a cop.

>>89167378
We'll that's terrifying. Who does Rage Racer arch?

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>>89167487
Rage Racer is a hero.

He is arched by the super villain Mr. Mellow.

>>89167532
Interesting twist there. Would not expect that.

>>89167630
Mr. Mellow is... quite vicious despite being incapable of anger.

>>89169059
It's the ones that don't get angry that you really have to watch out for.

>>89167378
I like this Rage Racer pic. Any more?

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>>89169680
http://the-conservatory.wikia.com/wiki/Rage_Racer#Gallery

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>>89169238
I think he's the closest character we have to the modern psycho take on the Joker.

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We have a shit ton of villains who arch specific heroes who almost never get brought up.

What are all these bad guys up to all the time?

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/request/- Venus Fly Trap in a chinese dress

>>89174422
Villains have to do laundry too.

>>89174493
What kind of a character is she? She's lovely

>>89175878
That's a pic I saw on /d/ for an humanization of a Chinese finger trap.

>>89176808
Any chance she can be made into a character? Maybe something for Golden Girl as a kind of hero

>>89176808
>finger trap

Oh, I get it.

>>89176988
>she

I don't think you get the joke.

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Had an idea.
>The saying goes that the creator of the warp gates, Dr. [name], drew a visualization of their appearance and excitedly passed them to [his/her] close friend and colleague, Dr. [name2]
>After staring at the drawing for several moments, Dr. [name2] remarked "Is it a slice of pineapple?"
>Ever since then, warp travel has held a joking association with pineapples among engineers
>The Pinaplus Luxury Corvette, a prototype compact ship based on our Luxury Yacht line, is the first ever personal luxury ship of its size to enjoy warp gate travel, being the smallest non-military ship capable, and so has been christened with the a representation with Dr. [name]'s famous sketch

>>89176988
Why not take this to the specific thread for this subject?
>>89159817

>>89177417
I like it.

I'm pretty sure it was Springtime and Castle who came up with it.

Oddly enough, not even aliens had warp gates yet in the setting.

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Bump

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>>89180220
Cool. Who's that, anon?

>>89180247
what the fuck is this dude with the glasses?

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>>89180247
Adalicia, known as Blueblood, a member of a vampiric lineage created by an ancient demon as a way for it to break out of the dimensional prison it was trapped in. She's a traitor against her own bloodline, specializing in killing other Blue vampires because she's disgusted with their actions. She's also the demon's unwitting agent, as he requires the vampires to kill and cannibalize one another until one of them becomes powerful enough to be used as a gateway for his release.

>>89180377
Magi drew a couple of strips of characters being interviewed by this person, which may be like a mangaka style author representative. Either way, no actual details have been discussed about them, so for now the whole setup just seems to be for meta exposition.

>>89180220
I'll bump too.

>>89182108
Could use another

>>89133026
Is Bees more a pastiche of Nightwing or Daredevil?
Also, what's his dayjob/civilian life like?

>>89184140
He's young, so student.

>>89184140
I don't think he's meant as a pastiche of anyone particularly.

>>89126855
>>89129492
>>89140419
>>89156075
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1TuBf0VtkBV

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Time's flying past

>>89177417
>>89187243
So what kind of stuff would you want to see in the space setting?