Which is the better cartoon, in your opinion? Clone Wars or Rebels?

Gennedy.

Ahsoka or Rey?

>>89069653
It's not even a question, Clone Wars by a mile
Watching Rebels just leaves you thinking of all that could have been, it's so toned down.

>>89069653
Put the Rebels lekku on the Clone Wars everything-else, with the slave costume.

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>>89069657
This Anon gets it.

>>89069664
rey is a disgusting forehead monster

>>89069657
Clone Wars was pretty fucking great, but I do prefer how TCW had more world building.

>>89069653

Clone wars, but then again clone wars started off pretty slow too, so it's not too late for rebels.

I feel the main problem is that the scrapped prequel republic and old republic based storylines of clone wars had a lot of potential, especially considering how good those in a similar vein were. Especially considering how they scrapped the Sith shrine under the Jedi temple episode as well.

>>89069664
>Thinking OBC v.s. Forehead Sue is a fair comparison

Man, you must really like Rey, huh?

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Rebels main characters are boring as fuck. Clone Wars characters were interesting.

>>89070084
We're never gonna let Rebels live that clip down, are we?

>>89070122
it makes no senseeeee

>>89070122
It triggers the /swco/ idiots when we don't.

>>89070133
Through the Force all things are possible.

>>89069657

Gennedy fags need to fuck off, it was a alright cartoon but the clone wars was better so deal with it

>>89070167
They were both great in different ways.

>>89069664

>Great character that has personality and fans like
vs
>The ultimate Mary Sue

>>89070084

>Disney Magic

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>>89070167
>but the clone wars was better
Sure it was. How many Jar Jar episodes did Gennedy's clone wars have again?

>>89069653
Clone Wars.

>>89069664
Ashoka

>>89069653
Clone Wars because it wasn't a percentage as fucking awful as Rebels.

>>89070084
This will never stop looking stupid. No matter how much damage control someone tries to do.

>>89069664
Mate, how is that even a question?

>>89069664
that's not even a question, nigga.

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TCW is pretty much the best cartoon to exist after season 3

Rebels isn't bad but it's not TCW-good

>>89070084
>using light as a propeller

>>89069653
Rebels has better designs. Ahsoka looks like a mutant goldfish in Clone Wars. I always hated her face. She actually looks good in Rebels.

>>89070400
Who knows, maybe in future seasons Rebels will take off too. I'd say they're already starting. I mean, Season 1 was so tame and limited in scope. It's really expanding now.

>>89069653
was it really that difficult to keep her head patterns even remotely identical?

if they were going for a simpler design the clone wars version is clearly the easier of the two.

>>89070454
It's a repulsorlift in the hilt

moran

>>89070510
Laziness is the answer.

>>89069653
They are 2 parts of the same whole.

You daft punk.

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>>89070084
>it ain't me starts playing

>>89070239
To be honest, Jar Jar episodes were bearable except for the first one where he goes with Padme to Rodia.

The one where he tricks Grievous is good.

if you hold swords the other way around it's easier to hit things with them

>>89071395
I don't get how holding your lightsaber backwards is supposed to help a jedi. They'd be more likely to cut themselves than their opponent.

>>89069664
>long-time waifu toon with non-white skintone and spunky attitude
>alleged mary sue that's 3dpd, too white, and too serious
Gee, /co/'s obviously gonna fap to a reel gurl

>>89069664
I got it, anon.

>>89071488
Thats what they want their opponent to think.
Jedi and their mind games.

>>89069756
I couldn't agree more. I don't hate Rebels but I find myself thinking if given the choice I'd take more episodes like the unfinished animatics Bad Batch ones over Rebels.

I loved the world building in Clone Wars. Star wars is such a great universe, space is limitless! An episode that sticks out to be ist he one with the Sister and Brother ,when Ahsoka goes evil for a bit.

The thing also is this: ObiWan, Anakin , and Ahsoka are fantastic characters. Not boring at all, a fantastic trio.

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>>89070084
Reminds me of Zanscare mobile suits.

>>89070084
What episode is this?

>>89072751
Twilight of the Apprentice pt. 1

>>89070084
>guys we need a new type of lightsaber
>lets try spinning, that's a good trick.

>>89073782
How about a spinning lightsaber with spinning teeth like a chainsaw?

>>89069756
Its just starting over. Rebels is in its third season, and is about as dark as the third season of clone wars desu

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The fuck is this shit?

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>>89073904
Any particular color?

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>>89070084

Sheev spining is well known dark side technique.

>>89069653
they were both terrible

>>89074420
He was a good friend.

>>89074371
Amnesia induced retcon

>>89074420
Proof that dolphins are evil

>>89070483
I dunno. It being on a Disney channel will always tie them down way more than CN or Netflix would.

>>89071395
>>89071488
I think it's suppossed to emulate Ninjas. Her lightsaber fighting style is also one of the more acrobratic ones.

>>89074848
I'm curious, is there anyone that really uses long swords backwards like that? I'd understand if someone were holding knives that way. But would it really be effective with swords?

>>89069653
The Clone Wars has the clones.

>>89074921
Well I know from Tenchu that Ninjas holding long, straight Katana's backwards seems to have been a popular thing.

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>>89070084
So, maybe the hot sabers heated up the air under them causing them to rise.

That's the best bullshit I can come up with.

>>89074996
Wouldn't the hot air burn them?

>>89074996
I have a better one: Disney forcing them to add something "funny" into the episodes for the kids so they aren't too afraid of the dark tone of the two-parter

>>89069653
A fair comparison would be when Rebels is finished. I'd still say TCW even though it also had some retarded moments no better than lightsaber helicopters.

>>89069664
Rey on the balls, ahsoka on the shaft

>>89074996
Motion of the sabre channels the force, or some shit? It's done worse. Jedi do force jumps often enough, so maybe mastery involves short flight.

>>89074371
an intergalactic d8

Hold on.

Which shows are canon again? Is clone wars canon and then goes into rebels?

>>89069782
i wonder what Gennedy Ashoka would look like

>>89074996
the inquistors are only half trained in using the force so they can't challenge the actual sith. their sabers are ez-modes with built in repulsors for throwing which can also be used as a parachute

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>>89070084

>>89069653
Rebels has a better cast and a better sense of adventure. Though I do miss the clones.

>>89069782
I can't stand candy-stick lightsabers. Also Yeda isn't that short.

>>89069657
>>89069782
Word.

>>89069653
Nice Waifu though. Orange Butt Cheeks.

>>89076059
im a casual, but i do believe TCW and Rebels are both canon.
Rebels is canon, so TCW would have to also be canon, just by extension

>>89069664
You're asking, on /co/ no less, if we prefer the real human figure over the cartoon one? Honestly even on /tv/ they're go for the orange teenage alien temptress first.

>>89076721
TCW and the Maul comic that tied up his story from the show were explicitly excluded from the canon purge when it happened. They're the only things that were.

>>89070084
I kind of think it's cool

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>>89074996
Nigger, it's just an anti gravity thingy on the grip, the blades just spin because its a good trick.

>>89070167
not really

>>89069653
Clone Wars had the ability to tell more stories with a varied cast of characters and a more interesting setting (Clone Wars are cooler than Galactic Civil War).

Rebels is better for it's focus on a smaller story, while still weaving in important characters from around the universe.

Both are pretty good, desu. I think I like Clone Wars more, but Season 2 finale of Rebels was probably better than anything in Clone Wars.

>>89070845
kek

>>89076503
This is nitpicking

>>89077908
Doubtful. Anyway your post is too short, I'm ignoring it.

>>89076064
Ugly

>>89075846
*slow clap*

>>89069653
Clone Wars, because THEY DONT FUCKING ANIMATE EVERYONE BOBBING, WEAVING, AND GESTURING THE SAME EXACT WAY EVERY EPISODE WHEN THEY TALK.

>>89078154
This. It's the only thing I notice and it's too distracting

>>89074371

The plot to Episode VIII

>>89069653
Clone Wars, because Vader didn't exist yet.

Honestly having gone through all of that and have Anakin still end up going dark side ruins it for me. It's why I hate prequels.
>Hey, let's show you this dark future and allude to a brighter past
>The big bad? Used to be one of the good guys!
>Let's get to know him and then spiral him down the path of darkness!
>Hurting everyone he cares about!
>It's entertaining!

>>89079761
But anakin was never a likable character anyway

>>89069653
ORANGE

>>89079800
Movie Anakin wasn't. The Clone Wars version is a totally different character.

As much as I like Clone Wars it baffles me that they made it canon, I can't accept that the heroic likeable Anakin became the whiny & creepy wanker again just before Revenge of the Sith.

>>89069653
that's not even a question: rebels is just garbage that I'm so very tired of seeing being pushed.

it has not improved since its inception, it has actually gotten worse over time.

quite a contrast from clone wars, actually.

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This was brillilant design, wonder why they didn't use this...

>>89080912
Because that's not in the Rebels art style and it wasnt even a proper aged up Ahsoka(IIRC it's her model with stretched features)

>>89074371
An angel?

>>89070239
Jar Jar's episodes with Mace Windu were great.

>>89078154
Yeah but Clone Wars constantly had close ups with small eye movement before switching to the next scene. CW loves their small eye movement, makes them look alive. Sky Hawks, I think it's called, had the same issue, uglier style tho.

>>89069653
Rebels, because she finally dies.

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>>89070167
This.
Was this show good for other than mindless action?

I prefer Rebels cause I like the -relatively speaking- smaller scale stakes, more character focus and setting. Plus TCW art style is just so fucking ugly.

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>>89070084
This right here killed Rebels for me. I can stand a lot of bullshit, I mean you have to if you're going to like Star Wars, but this was too much. It's the absurdity of it. It would be like if I picked up a rifle and started spinning it like a mad man and then suddenly float up, in complete defiance of everything we were raised to believe.

I just can't /co/

I've just started TCW first season and so far to 13 episode it seems little boring. Will it get better?

>>89082238
It gets a hell of a lot better. Stick with it.

>>89082238
Yes.

>>89070084
Could some ask Pablo who trained Inquistors to do this? I mean...can Vader do it?

>>89074360
Alot of people have died onscreen so far in rebels.

>>89081947
Man this is stupid.

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It's fucking disney and Star Wars is one of the largest things they own, surely they can atleast spare enough budget to increase the animation quality, looking back on Clone Wars and the difference is huge

>>89083204

Serious Brand X level animation fluidity.

>>89083204
If I'm not mistaken, Lucas put a bunch of his own money into TCW. Doesn't excuse Disney, but still.

I like Rebels' format and cast, but it's wasting that potential. The main cast aside from Ezra and Kanan are barely developed and it's mostly either fan service or filler comedy episodes until the finale.

That delicious lekku though.

>>89076400
I would love to see a show about vader and sheev just being assholes beavis and butthead style

>>89069664
>giant forehead
>autistic
>always gaping her mouth and opening her eyes
>disgusting teeth
>supid, fake britisn accent
>always shouting everyithing
>mah-rey-sue
>no reason for her to be in her story, other than jumping to the story just because
vs
>cute
>flawed character who pursues to become better
>always saving the god damn galaxy
>saw that the jedi council was corrupt and wanted out of it
>had actual character growth and development throughout the series

>>89082180
Does nobody read the thread? Or watch the episode? It's been said multiple times already that they didn't helicopter around, they had repulsors.

>>89084828
It doesn't matter it still looks bad.

>>89084828
Sorry anon but I stick to what I say, they can use any explanations they want but it's still fucking ridiculous.

>>89084828
Oh excuse me then. Let me take back all the laughs I had watching Inquisitors flying around like retarded helicopters. There's an explanation so that makes it totally serious and threatening now.

>>89082238
It gets better and better every season

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>>89069664
best girl

>>89070084
>YWN have 8bro put his foot in your face

>>89084131
>>89070190
>>89069911
>REEEEEE WHY IS THIS FEMALE CHARACTER DOING SOMETHING ONLY MALE MAIN CHARACTERS HAVE DONE FEMINAZIS GET OUT

Never change Star Wars fandom.

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>>89069653
they're both pretty retarded desu

If somebody had told either team behind them that you don't need to make a show completely retarded to appeal to kids then they might have been better.

I mean just look at that edgy reverse lightsaber grip for starters, and the white blades. These were both stupid things in The Force Unleashed and they're stupid here.

Other examples of how ridiculous both shows are:

Anakin having an apprentice
Helicopter lightsabers
An alien called Click Clack

etc, etc

>>89069653
Rebels. I just don't get the love for Clone Wars. It's just...bland. There are some good episodes here and there, but I really don't like the animation. I'm convinced people only like it for nostalgia.

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>>89074371
>Pattern analysis:
>Blood Type:Blue
>5th Angel identified
>Desegnated name:Ramiel

>>89070084
LIGHTSABERS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY

>>89083147
>Man i have shit taste

noted

>>89069657
Not enough material to even make it into the competition

Plus aside from some minor contradictions it basically bookends the CGI show

>>89069664
are you retarded?

How did her facial markings change? Is it paint or is that just something that happens as her species (Togruta?) matures?

>>89089598
Puberty happened and stretched her skin out.

>>89070239
How many episodes did Gennedy's have overall?

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>people having a hard time swallowing a helicopter lightsaber
>but not a laser that arbitrarily stops a meter away from a sword hilt

>>89089888
>if you suspend your disbelief for one thing you must accept every blatantly retarded thing!

>>89089973
Lightsaber blades clearly have mass, the way they swing them.

>>89088016
But this is a fandom that's been cheering on a laser blasting princess and light saber slashing babes for years. They're all over the old EU.

>No, this doesn't make sense at all.

>>89088016
These people clearly appreciate a female main character, though. Just not MaRey Sue.

>>89082883
A couple episodes a named character we're familiar with explodes in a perfectly avoidable unfortunate situation. Its incredibly dark and almost painful to watch.

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>I watch Padme episodes "for the plot"

>>89069657
/thread

>>89089888
lightsabers are just space swords. If swords that turn you into a helicopter existed in real life it wouldn't be as distracting because they would just be space helicopter swords.

>>89091193
Political shitstabbing is entertaining in Clone Wars.

>>89091217
That's just the difference future technology makes.

>>89091309
sorry, "futuristic." I know someone's going to give me shit over that one.

>>89085113
>>89085745
>>89086485
Silly, sure, but not as ridiculous as just thinking a happy thought and zooming off. I'm just saying there's a reason for the silly.

>>89090431
What makes her more Mary Sue than Luke or Anakin? The fact that you can "cleverly" shove "Rey" into the term?

>>89092063
Did Luke single-handedly beat up a mob of angry men before having an ounce of training? Did he kick Darth Vader's ass at their first showdown? Was he a jack of all trades? Fuck no.

>>89092128
The first time Luke piloted an X-Wing in a very intense combat situation he used the force (something he was only just introduced to) to blow up a man-made dwarf moon battle station.

>>89092176
Someone succeeding at the climax of a movie does not constitute a "Mary Sue." A character who has no faults and succeeds in everything they do, does. Rey is a Mary Sue. Luke just ultimately won when everything came to the end of the line. And at least Luke had an excuse for being a decent pilot.

HUGE difference. Or do I need to remind you all the times Luke actually failed? How many times did Rey fail? Oh that's right, never. Because she was without flaw.

>>89092258
A character can have flaws without having failure. Rey also had an excuse for all her knowledge and skill. What eas Luke's excuse for pilot skill?

>>89092303
Bullseying womp rats in his T-16.

Do tell what Rey's "flaws" are. Accidentally beating more experienced sword fighters?

>>89092353
So shooting rodents will make me a space pilot, nice. Mind, a better space pilot than some of the more trained rebels.
Also, can you tell me where you found the combat experience of the characters to know who's more experienced?
As for her flaws, she was scared and doubtful of what she could do. Sure, it's nothing major, but at least she didn't just fearlessly kick ass. She's a survivor and she had to push down her natural fight-or-flight and choose to fight.

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>>89092527
This is a T-16. So yes, being a marksman in a flying craft and flying through canyons on Tatooine does give him quite a bit of practice at the exact thing he did at the Death Star. Go figure.

>Also, can you tell me where you found the combat experience of the characters to know who's more experienced?
She lives in a shithole gathering scrap. What about that gives her fighting experience? Overpowering groups of men without breaking a sweat I suppose? Maybe always winning fights is just a personality quirk. What great writing.

>>89092527
>As for her flaws, she was scared and doubtful of what she could do.
Why is a character who always wins apprehensive? That just raises MORE questions.

>>89080596
Dark Side's a hell of a drug?

>>89092890
After the first time you cauterize some younglings, you need your fix.

>>89092657
She and others had to gather scrap to survive. You think they kindly took turns?
>>89092831
Well they usually aren't hesitant when they don't have the option to be. It's cheesy and cliche but it's the "you could do it all along you just had to believe" sort of thing. Then again, believing is pretty important with the Force.

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>>89091193
Clone Wars had some awesome backstory

>>89093138
>She and others had to gather scrap to survive. You think they kindly took turns?
So in this cutthroat environment, are we supposed to just believe offscreen she lost fights until she had the experience to win? They didn't do a very good job of communicating that she clawed her way to the top to moviegoers, that's for sure.

Ultimately, that's the big issue here. We don't see Rey have setbacks. She just wins. And that's why people are perfectly validated calling her a Mary Sue. None of the other heroes in the series suffer from this. Except maybe child Anakin's unbelievable little stunt where he accidentally destroyed an entire Droid command ship. That's bad writing too.

>>89091193
I wish people would make some good shit from this episode.

>>89074996
A properly functioning saber doesn't throw off heat

>>89093238
even in the case of child Anakin, we already knew that he will eventually fail.

>>89093173
I just got to this episode. Daaamnnn

>>89095032
Also he started the movie as an actual slave, which isn't a very flattering status.

>>89074996
Not plausible the hot air would just dissipate into the atmosphere and there is nothing to contain/concentrate it. Also the lightsaber isn't actually attached for a hot air baloon thingamajig to take effect.

>>89075844
Considering the show visually shown a ship in space sink like its in water, its better to conclude that the saber flight is just pure cartoon bullshit.

>>89088247
Any Knight can have an apprentice, what's your point?

>>89095478
That's due to systems malfunctioning, in episode 3 when they droid ship does that, they reroute the energy and it stops

>>89089440
>spin it to win it
>one legged three saber stance

Nigga it's stupid

>>89095854
Bullshit. The bow pointed down and sank in the weightlessness of space. Some people who work simply dose not care for shit like that.

>>89095979
Literally just watch the start of the movie

>>89093173
Which episode is this?

>>89092063
How about we start with the fact that Luke and Anakin trained with experienced force users for extended periods of time before demonstrating the mind trick, while Rey pulls it out of her ass a half hour after learning the force is real.

6/10 made me reply.

>>89096991
She was learning it before she was left on Jakku as a child. :^)

>>89076400
>trained wrong as joke
This would be more amusing if meme wasn't so run into ground

>>89096077
Nigga i was talking about an episode of Rebels not the battle of Corousant.

>>89097811

Which episode?

>>89097811
check'd, but it should still apply, unless I'm mistaken, the technology of Star Wars has been largely the same for well over 10,000 years

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>>89096919
Season 2, Episode 10: The Deserter

>>89098094
No its not, at least not on EU. 10,000BBY there were still forests in Corousant and everyone still used ballistic weaponry.

>>89099049
Damn, stuff like this really makes me want to study the history of the Star Wars universe. How primitive do things get?

>>89069664
>who's better, Han Solo or Jar Jar Binks?

If Rey was just a really good hand to hand fighter, then fine. But despite being a dirt-poor scavenger, where getting a meal is a fucking challenge, she somehow can fucking pilot ships? And pilot the falcon to boot? and even though Luke uses the force to torpedo the death star, it wasn't deliberate and was using in a very abstract way; whereas a Jedi mind trick is very deliberate and requires training. Plus, EVERYONE fucking loves her. Finn has a crush, Solo and Chdwbacca befriends her, Maz knows her past or whatever, Kylo wants to train her as his apprentice IMEDIATELY. Shit, Han didn't even start warming up to Luke until after they battled their way together out of the Death Star.

Definition of a Mary Sue.

>>89099326
>she somehow can fucking pilot ships?
It's not hard to imagine that these junk collectors sometimes need somebody to transport their crap around the planet. The ability to pilot isn't really one of her mary sue features.

>>89093173
reusing the same model for the soldiers, talk about lazy

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>>89100396
It is hard to tell if a giggle is being had.

>>89069653
Early season Rebels is better than early season clone wars.

Season 4 of Clone wars is way better than Season 3 rebels.

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>>89099081
Well in the Great Sith war the majority of the Siith used melee weapons in great numbers so did the Republic, Starships were no better than armed transports. The modern lightsaber was developed by the Sith but was shunned for Sith Swords while the jedi still used proto sabers with battery packs. Corousant Architecture looked cyberpunk Mayan pyramids.

Earlier than that Hyperspace travel was more like "hope we don't die travel" due to the lack of established hyperlanes. And a bit farther back pre-republic, the Tau'ng lost the war against the Humans for their mutual homeplanet Corousant. After that Humans set out sleeper-cryo ships into space. Thats why there are a lot of Humans Near-humans in the Galaxy. Then colony by colony discovered Rakatan tech that allowed to space-fare better with the Hyperdrive. Those Colonies got into contact centuries later and established the republic.

The Tau'ng would later become the Mandalorians and wreck all kinds of shit and would invade and assimilate many worlds, the assimilated populace in time identied with Mandalorian culture.

>>89069653
Not even close, clone wars is streets ahead.

Stopped watching Clone Wars a long time ago, family kept up with Rebels. I was told Ashoka died and stayed dead, is this true?

>tfw no Ahsoka gf to rub head and fondle and finger petite body while napping balls deep inside her while she leglocks you in her sleep.

I never watched Rebels, but Clone Wars can go straight to hell with the canon destroying mary sue jailbait oc donut steel character

and Rex is totally NOT Alpha, no siree

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>>89070845
>>it ain't me
>not it ain't Sheev

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>>89091936
>as just thinking a happy thought and zooming off

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>>89082238
You'd best be watching in this order
http://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-the-clone-wars-chronological-episodeorder

>>89095345
To be fair, Rey could be considered a sort of slave because of her Junker status. Having to scrap together scraps for a meager meal.
Almost metaphorical to the average human.

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>>89100396
They're not just another number!

>>89101662
A literal slave is a bit lower than the metaphorical slavery we all endure.

>>89101690
Yeah... yeah...

>>89074996
unlikely. Lightsabers are a Bose-Einstein condensate, so they don't need to be hot, they're just highely-sense photons that cause some weird entropy-related bullshit on anything they touch

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>>89101002
Damn anon, thanks!

>>89069664
As much as I hated her as a kid, I'm gonna say Ashoka. She has a fantastic arc, going from annoying teenage sidekick to hardened soldier to jaded Jedi in self-exile.

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>>89069782
I really do love Genndy Clone Wars, but It's a little too Samauri Jack for Star Wars in my opinion.

>>89069653
I'd really had enough of the clone wars in all aspects. There was just something about the texturing of all the characters and graphics I didn't like.Let's face it, you only liked the clone wars because of orange butt cheeks

>>89069653
What happened to her hat?

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>>89069664
I see what you did there
Rei over Asuka, but Ahsoka over Rey

>>89109298
Whatchu wanna talk about now?

>>89074371

Ramiel

>>89076400
>>89097766
That panel in Vader's chest with all those buttons and lights does nothing, is just to annoy him. Sheev gave him that as a joke to make him mad on purpose. Don't understimate the dickness of a Sith.

>>89107638
>Rei over Asuka

fucking philistine
>Ahsoka over Rey
good choice

>>89081947
Is incredible a cartoon has way, like way way better choreographics than a CGI show, srly, swords look like they're actually touching not like in TCW and Rebels.

>>89101002
>Thinking the cool stuff from EU will stay canon
Kek

>>89091193
WTF I love Padme episodes now

>>89101002
Coruscant is the human homeworld of the Star Wars universe? I mean, it makes sense being the capital and all, I just guess I never knew that.

I also didn't realize Mandalorians aren't truly human.