JSA Storytime: Captain Atom

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>>89023188
F

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Shamed that redesign sucks

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>>89023216
both the tenor and baritone sound sick tonight, FML

>>89023225

>mouth on the costume

oh god that's not working and is scary

>>89023188
Ben Reilly is back, will be Scarlet Spider, and is in a costume with a hood.

And I have no fucking interest in it at all. Fucking Slott.

>>89023188
Did they forget to draw the rest of the cover?

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>>89023225
LOL, that fucking face

>>89023258
Edgy Ben with edgy Kaine pursuing him kinda turns me off. I guess I'll give it a shot.

>>89023225
fucking garbage
wow why fuck up the only good spiderman costume

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>>89023282
Big Bang sales thread was fucking brutal this month

>>89023309

i can't deal with the shitposting in those threads

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>>89023309
Damn, is that the grimmest/most don't fuck with me Nate yet?

>>89023282
>>89023309
Wow, this is real? I legitimately thought they shot Blue Beetle in the head again as a fake-out. Didn't they even make a joke about that in the comic last storytime?

>>89023309
Really the same direction as last time though, just worse. They're not the only retailer putting those Marvel numbers out there either.

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>>89023188
I finally got around to making reaction images from saved pages, as my oldest stuff is from when you ran JLI

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>>89023353
I mean, you know he gets better. But they did apparently get "I am not genre-savvy" flames for killing him.

I need to finish this game

>>89023225
it looks like they tried to make a Ben Reilley version of Spider-Gwen's costume

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>>89023384
The bit about how good stuff is being dinged/disregarded because it's Marvel--the suits/senior editorial needs to look at that and look hard.

Hey shipping anon, you here?

>>89023411
Oh fuk.

>>89023350
Not gonna a sniffing his finger joke.

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>>89023424
Ouch.

so what's his dodge saving roll?

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>>89023479
You know...oddly...there's kind of a through line from this right to where Bates/Weisman left us. On purpose?

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>>89023411
that hood is ass

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>>89023539
and now, best boy

>>89023225
>David
Wait, Peter David? I might. Just might keep up with this.

>>89023539
if they'd kept a hoodie on him it would look better, but a random hood just stuck onto his costume looks stupid

>dat gorgeous Reis Hal
jesus, DC would NEVER use GL to advertise anything nowadays

>>89023512
They've probably read it all, anyway? I admire their approach to not just disregarding what wasn't theirs - even in the interview that came across.

>>89023424
Are you on board with it yet?

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>>89023609
I 100% see it

It also makes me wonder if Bemis is actually going to work in/explain that "we just assumed Bendis was a fucking idiot" use of Foolkiller in NA

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>>89023640
Hey, saw this coming, too

>>89023640

>use of Foolkiller in NA

i love it

>>89023674
OH NO SHE'S GONNA SNAP HIS NECK

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>>89023674

>>89023702
awww

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>>89023702
what the fuck was this?

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>>89023716
I know, right?

>>89023674
The two pairs have had back-to-back scenes pretty much throughout. This kinda reads like she got properly interested after she saw him all burned though.

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>>89023751

>>89023751
Fucking Jurgans

>>89023726
Meanwhile WoW continues to be (barely) relevant. How ironic.

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>>89023786
>your life sucks, but hey, you'll outlive us all

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>>89023810
>>89023794
Everyone seems to largely have ignored N52 JLI, at least

>>89023835
True, but you know the deal.

It's always about the good years lost.

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>>89023835
OH so I read Clean Room

damn, that's a good book, and I don't even like horror. I can see why they poached the artist for Wild Storm.

>>89023810
This is kind of ironic after reading JL3K.

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>>89023857

>>89023804

i was worried about Overwatch not lasting bc I had forgotten WoW was still chugging along until a game of the year podcast talked about it

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>>89023835
Speaking of JLI surprises it was decent.

>>89023857
Did you read Snotgirl? I storytimed it today and the thread was surprisingly shitpost-free.

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>>89023860
Giffen would have no bit of that shitty retcon, I know

>>89023888
It was fun seeing Steve Trevor being written by Hama.

>>89023894

it's so weird how sometimes you can fly under the radar and sometimes it explodes

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>>89023894
I read the first issue when it came out

>>89023857
Yeah Clean Room was good and I liked the artist

I hope we hear about more WS books soon

>>89023934
Me too.

...I'm also excited for All-New Youngblood.

Cause as y'all know, I really want them to get it right one of these days.

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>>89023934
anon's complaints about the women in the series are even funnier, now, having read it

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>>89023953
>big silver butt

>>89023953
Yeah, that guy was demented. But I think he had more of a problem with just the fact Gail wrote comics than the actual comic.

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>>89023924
>It was fun seeing Steve Trevor being written by Hama.
this. Almost all of the tie ins were decent.

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>>89023992
that one in particular was like "...Lobdell?"

>>89023992
Steve was so close to being an operator in the small page time he had before yet another death.

Just started capping vampires.
Made me wish he'd write an ARGUS comic.

>>89023398
OP, if you're playing Dragon Quest, you better play IV and V before that.

Mostly because they're better.

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>>89023857
This is Totally-Not-White-Chloe at all!

>>89024005
>89023992(You)
>that one in particular was like "...Lobdell?"
Yup

>>89023924
He got the nickname wrong though, it's angel, not princess.

>>89024010
>Made me wish he'd write an ARGUS comic.
Same.

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>>89024030
I have 4/5/6 all, I just never finished 6, I think

I sunk WAY too much time into 9.

>>89023539
So THAT'S what c2e2 stands for!

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>>89023972

>>89024043
I'm willing to forgive it haha.
Angel is one of those things you're right.

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>>89024032
The way he draws stone. cold. Astrid has something about it that you can just feel why Ellis would go "gimme" about it.

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>>89024085

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>>89024105

>>89024085
It's definitely got shades of Ellis's revamping of Supreme a few years back

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https://twitter.com/TomTaylorMade/status/818175194514604032

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>>89024128
oh christ.

>>89023860
I don't remember CA showing up in-
>>89023911
Ohhhh...

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>>89024149
that's some lazy beat panels

>>89024128
well, I chuckled

then again I'm not surprised he's self aware about the NAAAARGHS and yet continues to do them anyway

>>89024149
Drawing the Line at $2.99!

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>>89024170
so adorable

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>>89024178
my hate is eternal

>>89024198
Oh hey, Bruce is back

>>89024178
Memes are free promotion, see Dillon and the Frank face.

>>89024198
Bat's cowl looks odd with the shadows in the fourth panel.

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>>89024222
dat ass?

>>89024227
oh, is it by this time?

>>89024198
>undies
Boo, colorist, boo! I wanted to see THE CODPIECE in all its glory!

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>>89024244

>Mighty Avengers roster on Assemble
>Captain Carol, Rulk, Vision, Ant-Man, Black Panther, maybe Songbird since she is in another group shot

Too bad the cartoon is shit.

>>89024198
[jerk-off motions intensify]

>>89024149
>https://twitter.com/TomTaylorMade/status/818175194514604032
This was really cool, shame it didn't sell and got shitcaned but with Frazer Irving on art I don't think they were planning on it lasting.

>>89024244
Dat everything.

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>>89024276
Daaaamn girl

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>>89024300

>>89024300
daaamn

>>89024085
Clean Room is pretty good at little beats on the art, which should also channel well into more high-action series.

>>89024300
>not using this as an opportunity to reference Red Son Wondy
BOO!

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>>89024334
oh JMS

>>89024358
there's lots of not-wasted-space in it.

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>>89024371

>>89024371
The jacket was great, fight me if you disagree.

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>>89024387

>>89024409
What if I agree?

>>89024409

Brother!

>>89024409
shut the fuck up it's not the iconic design.

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>>89024413
sigh, more OMACs

What? When did JSA storytimes start again?

>>89023398
Christ, I remember this game taking forever to come out.

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>>89024440
how bad is this?

>>89024440
It's complete dogshit that Kirby's OMAC becomes this.

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>>89024446
I missed you all

>>89024467
The game or the comic? Because I really liked the games (yes, even the sequels, fight me) but I never read the comic.

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>>89024510
it looks edgy, but I can see that being fun in a game? I've never heard of it

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>>89024527

>>89024486
All the more reason why I love how Didio and Giffen tried to salvage the concept.

Kevin Kho...god bless him.

>>89024498
I missed you, too.

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>>89024560

>>89024413
>England
>Bad teeth
Dammit.

>>89024409
Probably the least-worst of all the accessories/additions they've made to the core costume over the decades.

>>89024563

Kevin got a shout out recently, i wanna say in supergirl?

>>89024467
The comic fills in the gaps of what happens to side characters you don't see after a time.

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>>89024589
finally someone gets a fucking clue

>>89024605
Did he?

I really want him to appear in Kamandi Challenge.
I know Didio and Giffen are involved and I need it.

>>89024289
I don't watch TV. What's bad about it?

>>89024527
It and Prototype came out about the same time. I think Prototype is the edgier superhero-or-supervillain game.

>>89024527
It's not really edgy, more like (first season) Heroes but with actual superheroics, sans codename and costume.

>>89024527
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Fmz1Uqskyk

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>>89024620
whoops, page 4

>>89024633
What?

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>>89024676
and now, page 6, on which shit is getting blown up and Nate is in a gen-u-ine Hal pose

>>89024636
Prototype! That was the name of it!

I'd been sitting here for the last few minutes trying to remember, with the post in my head I wanted to make being "It was a little edgy, but way better as a game (and less edgy) than...the other game that came out at about the same time with similar mechanics and premise...the name of which I can't...remember.".

>>89024703
>Nate is in a gen-u-ine Hal pose
those two should really interact more

>>89024149
Xombi :(

>>89024710
Prototype was just a gorier and bloodier Hulk Ultimate Destruction. It also was pretty nice to see that a sapient virus was a better person than the guy he was copying.

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>>89024734
Two flyboys, yeah

ES KOMMT

>>89024710
Jesus Christ stop it with the edgy buzzword already. Do you people have no self awareness?

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>>89024755

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>>89024771
we missed you too, cranky

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>>89024818
>destroy LA
>and nothing of value is lost

(I kid)

>>89024710
In 2009 I think I played Dragon Age: Origins and that was about it. Thinking that these games came out 7 years ago makes me feel really old.

It feels weird there aren't more superhero games? I guess Crackdown was pretty much these with their overblown plots stripped out.

>>89024818
I'm serious. Calling anything with a little bit of violence in it "edgy" is ridiculous. The terms "edgy" has become a buzzword.

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>>89024841
this seahorse is here to fuck things up

>>89023234
See this is the kind of unbiased editorial decision that made thoroughly dislike Didio.

Watching the CBC'so new show about drug smuggling Mennonites; already dropped the great joke of "Who paints all the shiny parts of their car black?" "Batman?"

>>89024771
Have you ever played prototype? Seen a video of it?

It's an intentional attempt to condense and market pure edginess in video game form.

Years ago.

That was what they were intentionally trying to do.

I haven't used the word "edgy" to describe something in, shit, I don't know how many years now. Maybe it was Prototype, when it first came out.

Not everyone is so attuned to what they perceive as "buzzwords" that they see valid uses of said word as said..."buzzing"?

Basically, I'm saying your post is ridiculous and you should try to do less of that in the future.

>>89024284

Helmut and Heinrich's interaction in that one AA episode were hilarious, though, plus that Helmut eventually turned on his dad in part because of Steve.

>>89024866
I feel bad for Checkmate that they ran out of money with the knight and couldn't afford to build their other themed battlestations. Or buy them second-hand as anon ITT suggested.

>>89024843
Arkham Knight was the last superhero video game released. Everything else is mobile trash.

>>89024887
Yeah, I played Prototype when it came out and it wasn't really edgy.

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>>89024892

>>89024887
I found the darkness to be the better edy game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCzYqE7JxrY

>>89024917
I guess it depends what you see as the fundamentals of a superhero game. I think you could make a case for even stuff like Dishonored, but that is more in the Deus Ex line of influence.

>>89024887
This is my favorite edgy Prototype video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwdjIdMGP-U

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>>89024866

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>>89024971
Does anyone know if Winick ever talked about this run while it was going on and what got changed?

Big Bang also lauded JL/SS for being 1) on time 2) contained

>>89024965
Also holy shit what a new Valkyria game is coming out this year?!

>>89024948
I love how this was the only way to see To Kill a Mockingbird in HD for like five years, until they restored it again and released it in 2012

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>>89025006
I admit, I loled

>>89024969
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1M5jU5SprU

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>>89025006
We've come a long way, OMAC.

>>89025026
Also WW1 level was decent.

>>89024755
Mistakes were made

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>>89025039
so when did Wonder Woman become, like, as physically impervious as Superman?

>>89025070
Perez ??

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>>89025056
quick, someone has the 'fuck your mouth' edit

>>89025070
I remember in WML she still got injured by bullets, right? I feel like there was some power creep around Infinite Crisis but I couldn't pinpoint it

>>89023539
That is a gorgeous rendition of Booster.

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>>89025105

>>89025070
early 00s

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>>89025111
That sounds about right.

>>89023590
>jesus, DC would NEVER use GL to advertise anything nowadays

Well, this is at the tail end of like three years of Lantern events, and before New 52 carpet bombed everything's momentum.

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>>89025169
YESSSS

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>>89025105
I intentionally didn't post that one! Also Dreddverse and that one toyetic guy in Top Ten are the best robots in comics.

Some guy a few days ago on /co/:
>I've started reading dredd from the beginning and walter the robot totally wants dredd to fuck him

>>89025191
I know, I'm just lamenting the good old days

>>89025159
The Justice League cartoon established early on that she and Superman were evenly matched in their ability to give and take punches, so that might have contributed.

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>>89025195
I am still enjoying Comicsalliance's "You told me this gets good, when does this get good?" rewatch of YJ.

>>89023674
>>89023702
I approve this pairing.

>>89025228
I'm pretty amused that they made an article about a year ago praising Gerard Jones as one of the "unsung heroes" of the 90's.

>>89025275
Well he did write some good comics. I still like Repulsion and Chinatown. Rosemary's Baby's overrated though.

>>89023751
>Gavril is willing to bang Bea for weeks without stopping to eat

Wew. Vigorous.

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>>89025275
It was remarked to me that, in a very darkly comic way, at least this will make one of their regulars think twice about pushing the "Everything GL was better in the early 90s and it was fine to nuke Hal like they did and Rebirth was awful and no one could possibly like it now" line.

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>>89025316
I hate "robot replicating powers" 99% of the time

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>>89025351
hey cranky, can we call THIS edgy?

>>89025351
also there is literally a DC villain who does this called Amazo

>>89025316
Silver linings, I guess?

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>>89025408
well, yeah, that's why Ivo was on board

>>89025316
GL Rebirth kinda sucked, definitely the lowest point of Johns run but it also had a lot to fix so it's not the worst thing ever. Comic book fans in general are such sheep though, everyone knows now Emerald Twilight was a quick two month asspull and how they wanted it to end with GL 50 but lots of idiots will still defend it because "it's iconic!"

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>>89025422
oversized FINAL ISSUE

>>89025422
>Fist me, Booster.

>>89025432
I've seen people defend A Death in the Family, so

>>89025379
Throwing a bitchfit because drumpf won is what I'd call edgy

>>89025432
>everyone knows now Emerald Twilight was a quick two month asspull and how they wanted it to end with GL 50 but lots of idiots will still defend it because "it's iconic!"
also because "it's unique and therefore it was a good idea!" and "Hal was boring anyway so who cares lol"

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>>89025452
>>89025469
your ability to go fuck yourself is still unfettered, anon :)

>>89025351
What are icy fists doing for the robot?

>>89025465
Emerald Twilight is worse though. But you have a point, Death In The Family is also garbage that gets praised because "it's iconic". Civil War is also iconic by the way, so iconic they even made a Civil War 2.

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>>89025490

>>89025465
I defend it because I find Starlin's obsessive hatred of Robin hilarious (when DC once had an office poll over what character would get AIDS, he famously stuffed the box with entries for Robin).

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>>89025509
They look cool, of course.

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>>89025534
So this may have been an inside-gag?

>>89024887
>>Basically, I'm saying your post is ridiculous and you should try to do less of that in the future

Fuck off. The other anon is right, you throw around terms like "edgy" for no reason.

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>>89025534
Sometimes I think Giffen has the right idea

>>89025598
kill all duplicates?

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>>89025598

Imagine Ben Percy with that voice and a crazy woodsman beard

https://twitter.com/Benjamin_Percy/status/818647130160201730

>>89025563
Maybe.

In the end, the office voted for Jimmy Olsen, but then they found out one of his live action actors was gay, got worried about the consequences, and just dropped the whole thing.

>>89025563
>while Robin was looking for facts about AIDS, 18 people got mugged and 7 of those got killed too

>>89025656
>one of them also got AIDS

>>89025656
well yeah, but robin wants to have sex and not get aids, so uh, deal with it.

>>89025598
>>89025615
Kill Karate Kid?

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>>89025615
Cull the Batfamily ruthlessly

>>89025469
Americans fucking up elections isn't edgy, it's funny.

>>89025697
Just killing both duplicates ;^)

>>89025706
Did he say how he'd do it?

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>>89025706
>>89025727
Can't find it off a quick search, but he thinks there are far too many Robins and Bat-people running around

>>89025706
Max HAD to be juicing at this point, right?

I mean, I know he was an avid rock climber, but you don't get biceps like THAT from a hobby.

>>89025706
oh, I'm in total agreement there, the Batfamily is bloated as fuck

although IIRC he's also said he'd get rid of duplicates like Supergirl/Superboy/extra speedsters (although I have the feeling he'd be more lenient towards some than others)

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>>89025706
>simple, petty, doo-dah revenge
Sometimes I wonder what a X-Men run by Winick would have been like.

>>89025686
Thanks to the foundation laid by Dixon, pre-New 52 Tim was a good boy who didn't want to and never had any kind of sex.

>>89025749
I'm guessing he's not a fan of the Flash family either?

>>89025778
>robot has given itself a flaming mohawk
You are 100% right about this thing being programmed for style.

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>>89025784
The soap opera parts of it would be at least entertaining, I think. And that part of the X-books has been blah for so long--not even impressively bad, just dull. ANd there's no point in lying and saying we don't read X-Men for the relationship chart.

>>89025749
This is honestly the most genuinely dramatic use of the words "rodeo clown" in a sentence I've ever seen.

(And I'm from the location of the world's biggest rodeo, I was educated to the noble and selfless true core of the rodeo clown from a young age, I'm just sayin'.)

>>89025709
What's funny is that they had reached a point where both candidates were awful beyond belief or another funny thing was how hard celebrities were campaigning against him.
The fact that some are still crying about it instead of moving on or the fact that people are blocking others and refusing to speak tot hem because they voted differently from them is edgy.

>>89025656
Tim always was the worst Robin.

>>89025863
I think you mean best.

>>89025818
True, I think that it would have a decent enough start, while eventually becoming a fairly entertaining trainwreck.

But this is current jaded, detached X-Anon talking, past me would have probably crucified Winick if he fucked up too much.

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>>89025823
fun times in Houston, yo

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>>89025911
I like this "I'm just going to blow it the fuck up" approach

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>>89025940
You made him mad.

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>>89025972
we know, Nate ;__;

>>89025972
Oh boy, is it time for Nate to selflessly blow up /again/?

>>89025972
That is some bad dialogue.

>>89025911
>Nate shows up
>OMAC copies the power of exploding
I want to believe that line was intentional

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>>89025892
Reading Austen in real time must have been one hell of an experience.

>>89026021
he's not done yet!

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>>89026046

>>89026081
So what happened to all the OMACs that had been scouring the globe a few minutes ago?

>>89026046
It's funny how some runs seem less bad/more entertaining in hindsight. I don't think I'll ever forgive Bendis and AvX though, and the less said about the current Dark Age the better.

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>>89026021

>>89026046
I didn't know Booster knew the dreaded Black Crack Attack.

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>>89026104
At least Austen was memorably loopy, it wasn't a boring grind quite like Bendis.

>a man jumps out of a plane...

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>>89026139

>>89024063
Ah, good someone beat me to it.

>>89026139
Should've shot him before throwing him off desu

>>89026139
Is there Max reveals his true EXTREME nature by skydiving to safety?

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>>89026175

>>89026195
What's the next step in your master plan?

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>>89026228
Jaime, this is a blue board

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>>89026258
Nate already came all over the OMAC's chest, OP.

>>89026232
I dunno, get cozy and watch some Arrested Development, I guess. Then crashing a plane with no survivors, of coursh

>>89024300
Them's some RUDE looking breasticles.

>>89026294
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9994nv8BcU

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>>89026287
Dang it, anon

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>>89024371
WHO DARES?

>>89024128
Holy shit, even Taylor's ripped. The DChads meme is real. Also, I had no idea he was doing The Deep for Netflix, I'll have to check it out.

>>89026357
didn't he create The Deep?

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>>89026330
Ahhhh, sweet payback

>>89026385
Oh man, it's Warlock!

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>>89026357
Your right

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>>89026385
>>89026403
Is he back in limbo now?

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>>89026422
Max likes to play chicken

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>>89026461
Hah!

>>89025876
You mean the one everyone self-inserts besides early Dick.

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>>89026422
I went to check if he was due to appear in any of the new X-books and sadly not. Also what the fuck is this Secret Warriors again?

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>>89026509
So it looks like Max is going to get away scot-free, right?

>>89024755
Oh, hi, Warner Brothers Executives. Nice to see you here, demanding that the comics division be reset to handholding friendly mode for marketing purposes.

>>89026509
They've been trying to catch a mind-controller this whole time, how did they not get some inhibitors or something.

>>89026379
according to wikipedia yeah, i guess it was a graphic novel for kids before the show was made

>>89026544
Never mind

>>89026540
It's "hey look, here are the inhumans you dont hate yet" book

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>>89026541
It's not time to blow up before a righteous beatdown

hoot hoot

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>>89026548
Of course anon

>>89026605
KILL HIM NATE
KILL THEM ALL

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>>89026605
Landing in space: fine for Nate...not so good for Max.

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>>89026633

>>89026633
Zemo would totally be all "Cool, let's do it" here.

>>89026633
Take him through the time stream anyway Nate.

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>>89026661
See you on the other side of a reboot and another reset, Nate...

>>89026676
He would, wouldn't he. "Bring it."

>>89024866
The Checkmate Battlepiece is just a customized Slave 1. Who's with me?

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>>89026175
He's fucking Kirby

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>>89026734
And now, a denoument of bullshit.

>>89026734
I'm still having difficulty grasping Max's motives. I guess because he's just nuts.

>>89026721
Holy shit, I totally see it.

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>>89025006
I want googly eyes photoshopped onto this guy above the red lens.

He must be made into a giant blue Clown.

>>89026775
That's been the case for years. He just finally had an outlet for that crazy.

>>89025039
Tora's jacket is cute. CUTE.

>>89024440
>>89024467
>OMACs are hunting Conduits

Not gonna lie, that'd be baller.

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>>89026809
what isn't improved by googly eyes?

>>89026763
This really is such utter bullshit.

This is DC. If Batman came forward and made a statement of "Yeah, Max blew up Chicago", the world would believe it, and turn on him (Max). Power Girl is generally considered pretty respectable, too, just from her JSA association. WW would be too, if it wasn't some crappy pre-flashpoint 'who is wonderwoman' crap.

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>>89026858
Spoiler: IT SUCKED

thanks for reading: we're off tomorrow, and ummm we'll see what shows up on Wednesday

>>89026896
Thanks as always, OPium.

>>89026896
Are you planning something awful?

>>89025351
Even the Super Adaptoid and his fly "steals the style of people he power thiefs from" clothing?

>>89027001
I need to go through and look for where to start with Madge, actually. I think Casey first.

I promise it's not going to be, like, surprise Rise of Arsenal

>>89026896
>lasted exactly one arc
>everyone is out of character
>killed best boy
>made Booster into a huge fuckup who can't do literally anything right

Man fuck the new 52 so hard

>>89026775
Prevent Kingdom come.

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>>89025039

>>89026896
Thanks. That definitely got worse as it went on.

>>89027042
Thank you for sparing us that kind of horror.

>>89026896
thanks OP!

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>>89027116
There will always be good comics to break up the pain.

>>89025641
>In the end, the office voted for Jimmy Olsen, but then they found out one of his live action actors was gay, got worried about the consequences, and just dropped the whole thing.

That sounds so much for the best I honestly wonder why they were planning to kill anyone in the first place.

>>89025422
that and the PG clone.. who.. never showed up in this for some reason..

>>89025784
>Sometimes I wonder what a X-Men run by Winick would have been like.

He would introduce a top tier lesbian waifu, then have her crushed under a building in his last story arc.

But seriously though, Exiles was a great book until Claremont ruined it

>>89026605
Y'know, I feel like Max is wrong here and that, should it come to that, Nate WOULD actually kill him.

>>89025452
God damn, that's a thoroughbred.

>>89027225
I didn't hear anything about killing someone, just an AIDS story. Starlin just really hated Robin.

>>89027797
Did he just hate Robin in particular, or Jason specifically?

>>89027715
Nate, being military, would be one of the "Will kill if absolutely needed" types, I think.

>>89025598
Blow up Earth?

>>89027817
Robin in general. He's part of the whole "Why put a kid in bright colors while you're in black and greys, and hide?" idea.

>>89025706
>Cull the Batfamily ruthlessly
New ones would crop up again, the idea of fighting alongside the World's Greatest Detective is just too compelling to stay dead for long.
Batman is better as the centerpiece of a big crime fighting dynasty anyway.

>>89026763
>>89026800
There is nothing crazier than a man who is your arch-enemy giving you good PR after he just tried to kill several of you.

It's like, fuck Max. What are you doing?

>>89028193
I guess he felt guilty?

If I were Nate, I'd hunt him down again after I got back.

>>89027225
80s hiv panic.

>>89027818
Nate has killed a lot of people in his comics. When he explodes.

>>89031857
Nate has killed a lot of people in his comics.

In Vietnam.

With guns.

And knives.

And his bare hands.

And bombs.

And-

Well, let's just say that while he doesn't enjoy it, he isn't pathologically averse to it, either.

>>89025641
There was Mia as Speedy

>>89027063
>everyone is out of character

New 52 was a hell of a drug.

>>89032769
>In Vietnam
Nate is way more a Vietnam guy in some ways than e.g. Cap is a WW2 guy, huh? Makes it trickier to sliding timescale him.

>>89033939
The fact that so much of his series was him trying to reconnect with his now-adult children makes it really hard to adjust how far forward he was sent in time.

Even moreso than the direct Vietnam connection, because American specops guys are always doing wetwork in some warzone or another.

>>89034957
I guess I just feel Cpt Atom is almost especially emblematic of that war - the collective psyche, poltical to-and-fro, the sense of betrayal. Even down to the nuclear option being on the table but not used. Maybe that's just reaching.

>>89035649
And the conspiracy that trips him up brings to mind "frag the lieutenant" and the conflicts within the forces by that time, which is very Vietnam War and not Korea.