Justice League sucks

Is anyone surprised?

"Wonder Woman" still has a chance, though.

>>89022593
who the fuck is that? give me 1 good reason to trust what he says

>>89022613
>It was a fucking mess. There is a reason Patty Jenkins was dropped from Thor. Gal Gadot is pretty frustrated with the movie as well. Well for one, Jenkins cannot command the respect a director deserves. The director of a movie is the captain of the ship and needs to steer it. Jenkins is a total doormat and everyone walks over her. The production crew often supersedes her commands, she cant get the actors under control, and she's easily frustrated. Fucking Chris Pine on the days he was on set pretty much had to play Dad while she was Mom.

They said the same thing about BvS and that turned out great. Never trust negative DC reviews

>>89022627
Guy who goes to press screenings for movies. Gave the detailed breakdown of what WB changed about Suicide Squad from test cuts to the final cut. Also one of the first to say BvS sucked before it came out.

>>89022627
He was right about the drama behind the scenes of "Suicide Squad" and what the reshoots changed.

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>>89022651

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>>89022627
Guy that was right about Suicide Squad being a mess

>>89022715
To be fair, in these posts he's clearly seen the movie. In the OP he's just repeating what he's heard.

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>>89022593
>>89022715
OH BOY HERE WE GO! Anyone got the cycle of snyder pic around?

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>>89022593
Oh god no how could this have happened

I'm literally depressed now omg #tears

>>89022715
>>89022684
>>89022670
so theres some weight to his words then. fuck.

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>Producers aren't sure how to fix it
>keep Snyder as director of the second movie
Ok

I'm not really surprised. It seems like rather than addressing the actual problems with Man of Steel and Batman V Superman, WB just decided to let Snyder make the same mistakes, but this time with more jokes.

Plus it sounds like the plot has a lot of characters and moving pieces and Snyder has shown time and again he can't handle that. He needs simple straightforward plots to thrive, with as little flashbacks, dream sequences and mosaic narratives as possible.

Why do people CONTINUE to have hope for DC movies?

They'll just be let down every damn time.

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>>89022593
Wow I'm honestly shocked

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>>89022639
there's no source but i choose to believe it

>>89022639
I guess that's why there aren't more women directors.

>>89022639
Interesting, but Thor 2 definitely had problems beyond just Patty Jenkins

>>89022873
Because ffs Marvel needs some good competition

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>>89022613

>>89022639
>Female director can't direct anyone and gets walked over because she has no ability to command
I don't want to be sexist, christ

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>>89022987
Stay edgy kid

>>89023014
They have some good competition with Fox now though, Deadpool was extremely well received and Logan will probably make a lot of money too.

>>89023040
They're still Marvel characters

>>89023014
Yeah the closest thing they got to competition is Deadpool

>>89022593
DC should have stopped Snyder from doing Justice League after BvS failed instead of giving him another chance

>>89023059
Doesn't matter, it's still competition because it's 2 different studios.

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>>89022593
>>89023019

>>89023082
>DC

meant WB

>>89023082

That baffles me to this very day.

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Can't we just get a decent DC movie

>>89023040
Yeah Deadpool was great but it was more or less a parody of the genre and I'm certain subsequent films will do the same.
Logan is the ending to a rather disjointed trilogy
X-Men: Apocalypse was really fuckin bad so unless this 90's X-Men film is really good then I don't really have hope when it comes to Fox.

>>89023035
He's right, if I remember correctly Elizabeth Banks had to leave Pitch Perfect 3 because she had a child. Studios don't want directors that can't be reliable, that's why not a lot of women direct huge blockbuster films

Similar thing happened to Fifty Shades, the original director and Dakota Johnson were catty towards each other which is why it took so long for a sequel to come out, now with a male director.

>>89023082
Should of stopped after MoS.

>>89023130
we never did before why start now?

>>89023082
>hand over the production to the Snyder's crew
>shitcan the Snyders
Yeah that wasn't happening

>tfw The Dark Knight Rises was a masterpiece compared to everything in the new DC universe

>>89023197
Of course

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>>89022651

>>89023197
I honestly had fun with that movie.

Sure it wasn't as good as the first 2, but I found it entertaining.

>>89023141
>this 90's X-Men film is really good
They seem to be going for New Mutants now first.
One thread here claimed Fox wasn't happy with where Apocalypse left their series so they might be shelving the direct sequel for a bit.

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Would /co/ had believed 4 years ago that 'Man of Steel' -as polemic and criticized as it was- was going to turn out to be the best thing DCEU had to offer?

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>>89023261
I remember at the time thinking it was a rough start. I didn't think it would be a downward trend.

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Makes this video more embarrassing in hindsight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLObX2crYZc

>>89022651
so you are the kind of person who would enjoy beaing gang raped rigth

>>89023259
You can be sure they'll be shoving Deadpool in everything now, X-Force is definitely gonna happen soon.

It's a shame Jackman will be out after this.

>>89023035
>It's now edgy to think that women have a harder time than men commanding respect in an industry filled with massive egos.

I've heard tons of horror stories about directors being undermined by crew/actors throughout productions. I can only assume it's worse for female directors, given that some men are still incredibly uncomfortable taking orders from a woman.

>>89023261
Not four years ago but once the leak that Doomsday was going to be in what was then Man of Steel 2 I realized they had no fucking clue what they were doing.

The addition of Batman only made it worse because that's DC's blatant damage control tactic.

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lmao

DAE: Marvel ((left)) vs DC ((right)) ???

>>89023337
How do you course correct when adding Batman isn't an option?

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>>89023377
dude lmao marvel is like, so cool? i love how all the films are identical and totally lacking in any sort of creative vision or originality.

but brah, dude, DC is like, where's the quips? why does DC let an auteur director make original, engaging films that have emotional depth and impact? like, where's the quips? where's the sitcom cinematography? where's the taken-esque editing?

>>89023082
i chose to belive snider give the best head in all holywood and that is why he got to keep his job

The DCEU would be so much better if they stopped fucking panicking like retards.

Every movie since MoS is like this, they either go in full damage control mode and chop everything up in the editing room or they look at what the competition does and try to emulate it (and fail). I thought it would get better with Johns at the helm, but it's pretty clear that it was just a PR move and he has no control over anything.

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>>89023450
>emotional depth and impact

>>89023130
i vote reboot

>>89023477
He means memes

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>>89023450
>auteur

It feels like story after story broke today of "DCEU IS FUCKED"

Watch, in like 2 hours, we're gonna get "James Wan left Aquaman because 'creative differences'"

>>89023450
Maybe Snyder should just BE a cinematographer and let other people write and direct.

and in the end it won't matter

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>>89022651
nigga, if BvS was a succes we would be talking of the tons of DCEU projects instead of hearing of the delays of Flash and the chance of even fucking Batman backtracking

>>89023471
>The DCEU would be so much better if they stopped fucking panicking like retards.
This is why people shouldn't have gone all gung ho about "BUT THEY SAID THEY'LL BE DARKER THAN MARVEL AND IT'S MORE DIRECTOR CONTROLLED".

>>89023528
Speaking of directors leaving movies, aren't they under some sort of contract? Most actors can't just walk away from these franchises, how come it's so easy for directors? Flash already lost 2 directors.

>>89023528
You know that comic of McDuffie working at DC and everyone keeps cucking him? I imagine that's what it's like for Wan right now

>>89022670
>Gave the detailed breakdown of what WB changed about Suicide Squad from test cuts to the final cut.
I think there was one difference breakdown that was debunked. I don't know if it's this person's though.

>>89023035
lmoa

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>>89022651
>[BvS] turned out great.

>>89023020
>one female director out of many is shit
>thinks that means all females are shit
don't be an idiot. American Psycho, one of the creepiest and best depictions of a sociopath, was directed by Mary Harron. She had to deal with braindead so called feminists who think showing violence against women somehow means condoning it, and not simply showing off the character as the utter bastard he is

>>89022593
Christ again? This is the third time today an unsorced rumour has baited /co/.

How long till this gets debunked like the others.

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>>89022651

>>89023677
Shouldn't Suicide Squad be the Donald Trump of movies?

A movie everyone hated yet won anyway?

>>89023677
>>89023712
Clinton allegory honestly makes more sense, the film ends with an immigrant dying to save the country he decided to live in while an irrational and angry racist batman sees the light in his death

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>>89023717
>unsourced

Nigga whatched and pointed out each reshot and alterarion made on SS.

I know that you are an admited shill, but he has 100% track record regarding the DCEU.

>>89022593
man Disney is going all out

>>89023747
Consider the DCEU. On paper they have more of the qualifications to win but a completely botched campaign, a total lack of charisma, and constantly blaming the competition for your failings while failing to connect to people leads to shitting the proverbial bed So now, in their defeat, they've taken to saying the entire world is ignorant and wrong and that history will instead vindicate them..

That's not Trump. That's Hilary.

>>89023712
BvS is better since it marked the death of the franchise like trump marked the death of american values.

>>89023776
"i hear"

Its just as valid as Faraci was with his sometimes correct but mostly false reports were.

>an admited shill
The fuck?

>>89023815
>My comic book directors directors don't look like guys that read comics books! Take that you casuals!

At what point did being a chad become something praiseworthy around here?

>>89023815

I've always wondered how many of the Snyder apologists are genuine and how many of them are trolls.

>>89023821
Going by the track record of DCEU, I would say that it is likely.

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Okay wait wait


I forgot

the quips

I forgot about the quips

Every superhero movie needs the quips

Otherwise there might be some actual emotional tension

Interrupt all scenes that might have some emotional impact with stupid joss whedon quips

do this for 15 movies in a row

and never change

>>89023856
>Snyder
>a Chad
In what fucking world? He's a manlet

>>89023471
I understand the panic about JL - it's the launching pad for at least two new potential franchises - but I hope they at least loosen up about WW and just let the cards fall where they may. It may be a mess but it'd be a more coherent mess if there was less last-minute flailing.

>>89023878
ill admit that last tweet does seem ominous

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>>89023815
>he says, while posting on r/dc_cinematic
You have to go back.

>>89023856
when did being a chad become something negative around here?

the answer is when redditor retards like you invaded

>>89022627
He's been proven to have insider connects at this point

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>>89023880
Damn, I just feel pity for you at this point

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>>89023929
>anime reaction image

GO

BACK

>>89023855
So it's like X-Men: Apocalypse

>>89023815
bin al-Flecki's in pretty good shape. He must get a lot of protein from sucking Muslim cock all day.

>>89023855
>DC isn't like Marvel
>0/10
>DC is too much like Marvel
>0/10

Or maybe everybody's just in denial about how Marvel's movies are 6/10 tier and not the 9/10 that everybody wants to believe.

>>89023945
and he suck at all of those kek

It's surreal how I now look back at MoS with good thoughts after the train wreck the DCEU has become

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>>89023856

>a chad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD3byJxc9Vc

>>89022651
Just admit you'd like it no matter what as long as it's DC related, we already know you fanboy

>>89023945
>Birth
>Killing
>Death
>Two
>Fucking
>Movies

SLOW THE FUCK DOWN ZACK!
>I can't there are no brakes on the DCEU Train
FUCK!

>>89023855
explains why they don't know how to fix it

>>89023961
or maybe everybody want a movie that aint a edgy boring fest nor a quip meme machine

>>89023261
The only thing I really hated about Man of Steel was the editing. Obviously there were other parts that were bad but so much felt left out. I might have almost thought the movie was okay if they had just had SOME scene at the end of Clark dealing with killing Zod, but instead we go to some random time later with everything fixed and he's over it.

>>89024002
meanwhile everyone's losing their shit over baby groot and gotg2

There's literally no reason to believe this guy.

>>89023984
>I can't there are no brakes on the DCEU Train

Too bad the train is derailing at the same time and heading straight for the orphanage of nuns.

>>89022832
They really have no one to blame but themselves. Have they never heard the whole "fool me once" saying?

I think partially it's that they can't find anyone who wants to do it at this point, I believe that was the reason they went with Snyder in the first place

>>89023540
But Batman isnt backtracking

http://comicbook.com/dc/2017/01/09/ben-affleck-on-directing-batman-were-good-and-going/

>>89023881
And he only got his job because of his wife.

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>>89023815

>/tv/ autist forgets what board he's on

>that movie with 10 months of post-production left is a mess


I just tried on the sweater my grandmother hasn't finished knitting and it's a piece of shit. Holes and lose threads everywhere. Can this fucking bitch do anything right?

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>>89024026
Welp, choo choo motherfuckers.

>>89023945

There's only two people in that second image. That's dumb and poorly thought out.

>>89024068
Because WB is known for their excellent post-production job when it comes to the DCEU, right?

>>89023574
>Flash already lost 2 directors.
3 actually

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>>89023337

Are you telling me BvS, was originally going to be MoS2 at one point and was turned into BvS?

What made them change it?

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ITT: Post directors you want for the rebooted DCEU

My List:
George Miller
Matthew Vaughn
Edgar Wright
Damien Chazelle
John Landis
Joe Dante
John McTiernan
Shane Black

>>89022873
Im 2/3 for satisfied with dceu. Soon itll be 3/4

>>89023855
>Try to be too much like a Marvel movie
I 100% believe this now.

Not even joking. I completely believe they would do this

>>89024107
Wasn't Chazelle on tap for Flash?
After "La La Land" I hope they consider him.

Relevant:

>Or – and this would be the worst case scenario – perhaps Affleck knows that JUSTICE LEAGUE is going to suck (I'm hearing it's a mess -- I hope it's not!)

>Superman vs. General Zod movie is a piece of shit
>BETTER GIVE HIM BATMAN, WONDER WOMAN, LEX LUTHOR AND DOOMSDAY
>It's an even bigger piece of shit
>BETTER GIVE HIM FLASH, AQUAMAN, CYBORG, DEATHSTROKE, GORDON, STEPPENWOLF AND THE NEW GODS

Someone explain this logic to me

>>89024099
>Are you telling me BvS, was originally going to be MoS2 at one point and was turned into BvS?
Dude, everybody knows that

>What made them change it?
The mixed reception to MoS made them want to get Batman in there immediately

>>89024119
God forbid they try to have a joke or two in their movie. Clearly Marvel inventing quipping.

>>89024107
>Joe Dante
atom?
Doll Man?

>>89024068
You should post threads in /knit/ about how your grandma as the executive producer for your entire sweater universe is a disaster.

>>89024089
Sheesh, it's lost directors more often than the US authorities trying to get Roman Polanski extradited.

>>89024113
Looking forward to Wonder Woman, eh?

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>>89022639

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But the epic cinematography!

>>89023450
>snyder
>auteur

Wish I had reaction faces on my phone

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>>89024107

George Miller in the Zack Snyder role, Grant Morrison in the Geoff Johns role

>>89024134
Fuck. Forgot the source.

http://www.batman-on-film.com/batman-films_THE-BATMAN_Affleck_rumor_pushed-back_1-9-17.html

>>89024099
the safety net that was batman. What else.

>>89024107
>Shane Black

So he can make Ra's al Ghul a joke villain while the real one is a boring businessman?

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>>89024079
All aboard the Hell Train motherfuckers!

>>89024156
Wait, if they're trapped in rubble how'd they know he snapped his neck? Do they have x-ray vision? Are they Kryptonians trying to ambush Superman? Or is it just that everyone knows how this movie ends even people currently buried beneath concrete and steel inside the movie itself?

>>89023471
This.the reshoots are ruining everything. Its not the directors faults

True DC fans who endure all this nonsense will be rewarded in the afterlife

>>89024219
>chose to take a job with a company who think snyder is a competent director
not your fault

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>>89024191
Ironically, we already had a "fake" Ras, and the real one turned out to be a boring imbecile.

Imagine, a Batman villain so fucking boring that Batman almost became the most interesting character in the story. Almost.

>>89023130
But wb execs know what the people want. Their ability to change how the movies goes is a total strength and surly will reach the people. After all how could a wb exec be wrong. They are always right

>>89022593

Too many live action super hero movies.

>>89023186
Yea his wife is the center of this stuff. It would take a full cleansing to straighten this out.

>>89024089

so flash movie isnt happening then?

>>89023961
>implying you can't fail at both

As someone in the industry, I can say the movie has been getting some bad buzz for a while. Especially the Flash, who so far has been unanimously said to be annoying as all fuck. Like Jar Jar tier.

If they think it sucks then hopefully that means it's as good as BvS and Snyder is still doing his thing. Praise Snyder, don't let WB ruin your vision.

>>89024213
Binoculars

>>89024308
Crashing the Studio with no survivors?

This thing is going to be a disaster on the scale of Cutthroat Island, isn't it?

I love it. People will tweet about all the flaws in a WB movie like they're getting paid for it, but how often does anyone say the production of a Disney film is going to shit? Company Wars or not, there is a very clear bias in all of this.

>>89024079
>not understanding the symbolism of a train on fire
Fucking plebs

>>89022593

Mouse shills forcing the narrative

>>89024336
If WB has to die for his vision then let it die.

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>>89024213
All the crushed fenceposts and mangled trucks were clearly pointing to Clark killing someone with his bare hands.
And I mean, how could you expect Superman to resolve a conflict with a villain nearly as powerful as he is, besides brutal murder?
Just like all the comics.

>>89022593
Based D*sney shills sweating after Suicide Squad handed them their lunch.

>>89024356
I think it has something to do with the fact that productions in Disney movies rarely go to shit. The few times it did ("Thor 2" and "Ant-Man") it was widely publicized.

>>89023776
makoto a cute

>>89024356
It's TORtanic syndrome. People like to watch things fail.

And what will happen is
>Movie is released
>It makes a hefty profit but well under what the movie jews actually want
>The film will be misrepresented in criticisms because movies can't just be mediocre or forgettable they have to be the best thing since the invention of sliced jesus or worse than 13 holocausts
>Contrarians will then defend it as simply too smart for the room when in reality it's just not that smart at all
>This will go on for years until the next DC movie
>Then it will repeat
>That won't be the end of the DCEU line either

>>89024356
the fuck are you talking abouth? co still talk shit abouth civil war

>>89024391
>tfw the dceu is destined to be misundrstood cult films that will sell for decades

>>89024405
This.

You can dislike the kinds of movies Disney makes, but they at least make them competently. They run a tight ship.

>>89024107
Edgar Wright

Fuck no. He'll sit on the script for 10 years, refuse to play ball and bail. Ant-Man was only improved by his exit.

>>89024391
>D*sney
Memes have killed our ability to communicate with each other.

>>89024384
What about the ones in which he doesn't?

>>89024356
>I love it. People will tweet about all the flaws in a WB movie like they're getting paid for it, but how often does anyone say the production of a Disney film is going to shit? Company Wars or not, there is a very clear bias in all of this.
Look, everyone knows that Thor 2, Ironman 2, and the two Avengers films could have been much better. They are flawed. But there is no point nitpicking because even fans know they have problems, and do not try to argue as if they are misunderstood masterpieces.

We don't talk about Marvel film flaws not because the flaws don't exist, but because there is no disagreement about them. On the other hand we have BvS being treated like it is the greatest film ever and that anyone who doesn't like it are either stupid or paid to hate it.

>>89024405

i liked thor 2 and loved antman tho.

worse part of thor 2 was portman, and the villan was so so but i liked the rest.

antman was genuine kino.

i guess my complaint with man of murder and bvs / ss was that you could tell someone was yelling at someome else reguarding focus groups or polling. snyder's shit maybe shit, but let it be consistent shit.

show me how bad it can really get.

>>89024356
To be honest, both Thor 2 and Avengers: Age of Quiptron had plenty of early talk about not meeting with the expectations that were planned, and Ant-Man, even though was great for an origin movie, also had all the talk about Edgar Wright vs Feige, hell, I remember there were plenty of /co/ threads bashing in the movie due to Wright fans.

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IT
JUST
KEEPS
HAPPENING

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>>89022593
is ANYONE shocked? DCU is fucked.

Three strikes and your out. Man of Being Boring, Boring Man vs Superboring, and I'd Rather Commit Suicide

Hey, remember when Jason wrote "Fuck Marvel" next to his signature? I bet he feels really stupid

>>89024448

>ironman 2

Was a good movie. IRONMAN 3 was a complete train wreck that shouldn't have been made.

>>89024448
theres also the fact that we have a shit ton of marvel movies so even if some of they suck we still have plenty meanwile we got so few dc movies that every bad movie feels like a defeat

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>>89023880
>>89023945
>imagery is all that matters

THE SCRIPTS SUCKED

THE CHARACTERS SUCKED

THE DIALOGUE SUCKED

face it, these movies blow

>>89023627
larfe me orse orf?

>>89024519
But all those were successful.

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FOOL NO MAN CAN CATCH ME

Remember, the very worst thing about Spider-Man 3 is the symbiote and everything having to do with it. Why was that? Because Sam Raimi hated Venom, but Sony forced him to do the Venom storyline anyway.

WB has been breathing down Snyder's neck ever since BvS was a disaster. You can just imagine them yelling at him. "Don't make it so dark!" "More hope, more lightness!" "Make it funny!" They're taking his baby, his modern mythology, and telling him how he has to make it.

When Zack Snyder LIKES his movies, they can still be bad. Imagine how this movie, which he probably hated making, is going to be.

>>89024530
Iron Man 3 is the best MCU film. Also Civil War was the worst one. I have high hopes for Thor 3 because of Taika Waititi.

>>89024291
As of now there's no director so I don't know

>>89024356
Disney makes sure all are working off the same playbooks.

Problem is Warner Bros has diffrent playbooks they'll change to depending on what others are doing.

They've no confidence in their brand and that is what fucks this up at its core.

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>>89024555
If bizarrely lit scenes of people walking dramatically or screaming with this EXACT SAME FACE are your thing, Snyder is probably the greatest director of all time.

>>89024591

the dance routine, the emo cut and most imoprtant that 70s venom was what made it hot stinking dog shit.

still better than dubstep electro.

>>89024356
I think you forgot about all the bad press Thor 2, to a lesser extent Iron Man 3 and ESPECIALLY Ant-Man, the one that lost Wright, got. Seriously Ant-Man looked like it would be the first big bomb with how much bad press it was getting.

The thing is that it doesn't happen as much as DC so it feels like it's less.

>>89024356
Usually Disney production goes smooth, but we heard all the time about how shitty Ant-Man and AOU were going.

>>89024577
that's not the point, i'm saying the movies suck and the actors should feel embarrassed

also, audiences aren't going to keep going into shitty movies. they'll get tired of feeling cheated and stop coming, in fact i think wonder woman is going to have a low turnout

>>89023880
snyder knows what negative space is, knows blue and orange and gold and black look good and has a huge boner for classical referances and mythopoea bullshit

which could be good if he was trained in making movies not music videos

>>89024591
What about the retarded Goblin plot? What about Pete being a fat boring shit and his uninteresting wife?

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>>89024621
Any bets on who Snyderfaces in JL?

>>89024391
>D*sney
You can't be serious

>>89024577
>But all those were successful.
Not to Warner. Warner's opinion is the only opinion that matters. Warner has no interest in growing DC film properties, they just want money. And the thing about corporations is they are never happy about making a "little" money, they want "metric fucktonne" of money.

JL is the last straw. JL need to earn Avengers money or the whole thing sinks.

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>>89024621
hey man, don't diss on Watchmen, that's actually my favorite movie

a broken clock is right twice a day and Snyder actually did a good job here. grant it, he didnt write the script

>>89024684
>he doesn't know there's an anon that got triggered by the mouse
m8

>fucked up Lex
>fucked up Doomsday
>fucked up Bats
>fucked up the Joker
>fucked up Supes
Reboot fucking when?

>>89024519
>I bet he feels really stupid
I wouldn't. Fuck those arrogant pricks.

>>89024577
If you actually think just the money means its successful, especially with all the panicking we all know DC is doing then, Congratulations, your universe is Bayformers tier!

>>89024699
>hey man, don't diss on Watchmen, that's actually my favorite movie
Ugh.
Good news for you though, Snyder appears to have remade it with the Superfriends.

>>89024699
that snyder bigest mistake thinking he can writhe

>>89022801
Never has a pic been more related

>>89024699
>hey man, don't diss on Watchmen, that's actually my favorite movie
Seriously nigga

I'm just waiting for news of Snyder's suicide.

>>89024649
Why would they feel embarassed? They're in successful movies, and people obviously like them enough to constantly go see them. Even shit like Suicide Squad had a healthy amount of people constantly going.
>>89024733
Another successful franchise that people are still going to despite it being critically panned?

>>89023197
well it gave us bane and CIA

that's infinitely superior to MURTHA and HONKA HONKA

>>89024737
>>89024759
man fuck y'all

i hate synder too but watchmen is a damn good movie

>>89024384
Huh, for people so smart enough to understand all that foreshadowing you'd think the population of Metropolis would have RAN FOR THEIR LIVES INSTEAD OF GAWKING LIKE IDIOTS AT THE ALIENS FIGHTING IN THEIR CITY.

>>89024760
he got pay for doin a shity job, aint that living the dream?

>>89024803
Not something you see everyday

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>Claimed Grant Gustin couldn't be part of his Justice League because he "didn't fit the tone"

>Got chewed out by Tom Cavanagh

>Now there's reports Ezra Miller's Flash is the movie's Jar Jar Binks

B
T
F
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>>89024802
Watchmen ruled, so did Sucker Punch.

>>89023471
can you blame them?

there are literally hundreds of millions of dollars at stake here

>>89024827
Grant Gustin is shit and Tom Cavanagh is a telelvision actor who should learn his place.

Its really fascinating watching this whole thing. Like, as an outsider.

>>89023880
So the only thing that matters is if the movie looks pretty?

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>>89024836
are you mocking me? dont compare watchmen fans to sucker punch fans

sucker punch is fun to watch but no one can deny it's dumb as hell

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Geniune question: Why do they care?

We all know BvS sucked but here's the thing: It also became one of the top ten grossing films of the year. It achieved it's sole purpose, to sell. So why do they care the actual quality if they know people will go see their films anyway?

Why haven't they just said "fuck it" and gone full Transformers?

>>89024863
t. zack

>>89024849
>can you blame them?
>there are literally hundreds of millions of dollars at stake here
The problem is that the Warner leaders are not film makers, and know nothing about movies. They might WANT to earn money, but the micromanagement by amateurs is just a recipe for disaster.

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>>89024803
Nobody in Goyer films does anything based on logic, or use language that sounds like something someone would use in real life.

Everything that happens in them is simply a device to patch together the various broken plot elements, every piece of dialogue is a clumsy attempt to beat the audience over the head with some something he's not clever enough to simply show us.

>>89024875
And if its fun. Snyder's movies are just drab, joyless fights and overly dramatic religious metaphors.

>>89024865
Damn it Boco nobody asked you

>>People here defend this film
Really? After Man of Steel and BvS, and the AWFUL SDCC reel...really?

>>89024441
Ant-Man was made worse when Wright left

>no first act Hank Pym 60s adventures

>>89024890

Because it didn't gross ENOUGH.

They thought they could make a billion simply because it has Batman fighting Superman. As if name recognition was enough work.

>>89024890
Pride. They spent years selling themselves as "the thinking man's superhero movie". It's a bitter pill to swallow to become the "Transformers" of the genre.

Plus, while profitable, BvS underperformed severely. That was a movie from which WB expected Avengers-level numbers.

>>89022832

Didn't Snyder sign a 3 movie contract when he did Man of Steel? They could be stuck with him until the JL movie starring Darkseid.

Literally all WB's problems stem from the fact that Man of Steel was only made to keep the Superman rights.

They got Snyder because he was the only director willing to work with an unfinished script. It was no different or better than Fant4stic.

Then they made it the start of a cinematic universe to catch up to the MCU, despite flopping with critics and audiences, with the same people behind it.

They have less support than they think. They didn't capture hearts and minds like the MCU did first try.

You cannot build a house on sand.

>>89024890
>Geniune question: Why do they care?
>We all know BvS sucked but here's the thing: It also became one of the top ten grossing films of the year. It achieved it's sole purpose, to sell. So why do they care the actual quality if they know people will go see their films anyway?
>Why haven't they just said "fuck it" and gone full Transformers?
Because they are not sure they could REACH transformers. Because Transformers had been sticking to the same formula for multiple films and make money, while Warner still isn't sure what DCEU is suppose to be like.

Currently they are setting on Batman and Friends for the DCEU, but who knows what they would change next month?

>>89024597

Here's your pity (you)

>>89024932
BvS ruled though.

>>89024937
I like Wright, but that sounds like it would've made no sense in an actual film.

>>89022593
>>89023019
Is WB run by retards or something? They have time and time again blown all their chances of kicking Marvel in the balls. They just keep fucking up.
Remember the massive amount of hype when BvS was revealed? Far more than any Marvel reveal. Audiences are dying to get a good DC movie.

Marvel is going to sit on their laurels and start releasing generic shit if this doesn't change soon.

>>89024922

Yes sir...

>>89024827
>Now there's reports Ezra Miller's Flash is the movie's Jar Jar Binks

That was literally anon on here, in fact it was probably you.

Theres already gadot, why would you want another shitty actor in this

>>89022593
Does he have bad taste? If JL is as "bad" as Batman v. Superman then I welcome it with open arms.

>>89024974
Civil War was dumb.

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>>89024937
If they had not attached Wright in the first place, we would have had Giant-Man and Wasp in place of Dripping Ledger and Archer of SHIELD in the first Avengers movie.

>>89024107
>Matthew Vaughn

Please god let it happen

>>89022593
Don't need nothing, but a good time. How can I resist?

Wait, wrong song.

>>89024983
>Is WB run by retards or something?

Yes

They made DC suck
They made Harry Potter suck
They made Tarzan suck
They will make King Arthur suck

These things shouldn't suck but they did

Are the fucking Looney Tunes the only thing they did that doesn't suck?

>>89024119
Wasn't it obvious with the Flash scenes in the JL trailer?

>>89022593
DC needs to give up or start firing some higher ups.

>>89025089
I like Ezra Miller.

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>>89025084

>Looney Tunes
>doesn't suck

Remember when they crammed TWO WHOLE SEASONS of this crap down our throats?

>>89024259
I don't like Liam Neeson at all, and I thought Ra's was really cool.

>>89025027
Natasha's type is dime a dozen in spy flicks

Hawkguy was alright and more interesting cause he has a bow

>>89025132
STOP!!! YOU CAN'T DO THAT!

>>89022593

TWO HUNDRED DEGREES THAT'S WHY THEY CALL ME MISTER FAHRENHEIT

Who is guy and is he trustworthy? What happens if "Justice League" doesn't break $1 billion?

>>89025118
It's all on WB. DC can't do anything to save itself. Disney needs to buy DC.

Well I'm disappointed. Hell, my highest anticipated movie this year is Alien Covenant.
Can't belive Justice League isn't.

>>89025013
Yea I agree. But doesn't change the fact the DCEU doesn't have ONE, not ONE good film as of date.

It's even worse because DC fans can't admit they're bad. Marvel fans will tell you all the shitty movies Marvel has. I guess that's because they have at least one good movie to compare it to tho.

>>89025182
See >>89022715

>>89025182

>What happens if "Justice League" doesn't break $1 billion?

Most likely, they scrap the Flash and Aquaman movies.

>>89024826
>>89024912
Oh right, yeah, that all kind of makes sense now.

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>>89025139
Ras was entirely Liam Neeson playing Liam Neeson with stupid looking facial hair, with one of the most retarded as fuck villain motivations in the history of villain motivations.

You can't claim to not like Liam but love Ras. The entire role was Neeson reading terrible dialogue from a card.

>>89022639
Chris Pine is best boy twice, as steve trevor and as co director

>>89025184
> Disney needs to buy DC.
i like that

>>89025199
BvS was good though, Suicide Squad was pretty pointless.

>>89025224
>stupid looking facial hair,

That's the Ra's beard though. Maybe it would have looked better on an Arab actor.

>>89025217
Just Aquaman. Flash has the TV show to give it a boost

>>89025013

IM3 wasn't the best MCU movie, you'd literally have to be on drugs to believe this.

>>89025276

Not if he really is Jar Jar Binks 2.0.

>>89025265
Disney has hammered blockbuster cinema flat the last few years. Everything they making is the same nerdbait nonsense.

>>89025224
You're not fooling anyone, mouseketeer.

>>89025217
I hear a reboot-a-commin'

>>89022613
>Gal Gadot
>carrying a movie by herself
WW has no chance in hell.

>>89024890
I just personally feel that if a movie titled Batman vs Superman, something fans have been dying to see on the big screen since the characters were created loses out to The Secret Life of Pets, something may have gone slightly wrong. Just my opinion

>>89025300
More like another Batman trilogy, and MAYBE start a universe with them.

>>89023451
>i chose to belive snider give the best head in all holywood and that is why he got to keep his job

nah, he's married to a WB exec.

maybe SHE gives the best head.

>>89025297
Well, they're going to do it until it doesn't work, and when it doesn't work they'll do something else. The Mouse is nothing if not adaptable.

>>89025285
Yes it was, for one thing it was actually funny, also it wasn't afraid to take liberties with the source material to make something more interesting.

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>>89025184
>>89025265
Till all are one!

>>89025084
>They made Harry Potter suck
But Fantastic Beasts was great

Better than BvS and SS at the least

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>>89025298
>Corruption is this recurring problem
>So what we'll do is
>We'll cause all the poorz and working class that actually LIVE in the big cities, to go crazy
>They'll tear each other to shreds
>That'll fucking teach those corrupt motherfuckers in their mansions!

"All throughout history Bruce, we've set shit on fire, because inflicting Anarchy is a well-known cure for the disease of corruption! Look at how well it worked for the Russians!"

>>89025348
You're an idiot.

>>89025348
>Yes it was, for one thing it was actually funny, also it wasn't afraid to take liberties with the source material to make something more interesting.
A pity then that they dropped the Mandarin being a woman. THAT would have been interesting.

>>89025276
>Flash has the TV show to give it a boost
It also has no director right now after going through 3 of them, so, you know.

>>89022651
>Batman vs Superman
>great

Nigga you are delusional. At its very best it was mediocre.

>>89025378
Shane Black wanted to, but Disney refused. Still I liked Guy Pearce in the role.
>>89025377
I guess people just wanted the same lukewarm pap Disney served them before.

>>89025364
Apart from the retarded ending that tried to force a connection to the books, it was probably one of the better ways to handle a spin-off.

Ignore the original story and make new self contained one that explored the lore of the world. As it should be.

>>89025298
m8 he wouldn't bash current DC movies so much if he didn't love DC, because DC deserve better movies.

>>89025404
Why do people think no one can have a different opinion?

>>89025184

I've always had a strange feeling that Disney wanted DC and WB wanted Marvel, and maybe things would be better if they were switched.

>>89025470
we know your opinion is different, we also have the opinion that your opinion is dumb

>>89024579
kek, first Cyborg's Megatron cock now this.

>>89025559
Who the FUCK designed Cyborg, in general? He looks like he stepped straight out of a Bayformers movie.

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>>89024579

>>89024802
Shut the fuck up, I don't give a shit about your favorite movie. This isn't your blog, nigger.

So WB wants Barry to be the funny one because nearly everything beforehand has been depressing shit, basically using Wally's character, and havent given us any indication previously that they are able to write good banter/jokes and will likely give an annoying Peter Parker. Great...

>>89025438

IM3 was objectively awful

Ah well. At least theres Lego Batman.

>>89025448
Begins isn't a current movie and still remains the best cape movie. It's dialogue is also it's strongest point an no other cape movie comes close to it in that regard. Also, he's a shitty avatarfaging marveldrone.

>>89025470
No, but its a safe assumption that you're full of shit

>>89025626
I'll be grateful if he's "just" as annoying as an annoying version of Peter. Calling him "the Jar Jar" sends shivers down my spine.

>>89025319
There was no build up. No real conflict between them that needed them to butt heads in such a lethal way.

Had that conflict happened after working together for a while and something that caused strife through their team and friends it would have had that needed emotional impact.

Civil War did BvS better than BvS and that's upsetting.

>>89025648
Nope. It was funny, had an actual story, and was refreshing revisionist. Hopefully Taika Waititi will inject some actual humour and vision back into the MCU like Shane Black did.

>>89025661
Eeeehh

>>89025661
Which takes plenty of shots at BvS from the look of things.

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>>89025559
>>89025606
PRIME

>>89025753

No wonder Mouseketeers hate on DC. Their tastes are so deep in the toilet they actually believe this trash.

>>89025765

It looks funny, anyway.

>>89025730
Civil War was fucking retarded. Both BvS and Civil War are about heroes being selfish and putting their own interests above those of the world but only BvS acknowledges this by the end of the film.

>>89025730
The fundamental flaw was making it a VERSUS movie, we should have had Worlds Finest instead. They could still disagree and butt heads, but having them come together and giving us that handshake is certainly better than a retarded title bout that no one would be happy with over something so stupid to begin with.

>>89025833
I like the DCEU as well as IM3, this isn't a company wars thing.

>>89025869
>but only BvS acknowledges this by the end of the film.
The end of the film is Cap literally spelling out how selfish he was and putting his interests over everything. That's a terrible point of contention to make there

>>89025753
>>89025833
Samefag

>>89025869
That and wasting valuable time setting up future movies.

That might not even happen now.

>>89022651
I just came here to laugh at you

>>89025896
>Likes DCEU
>LIkes IM3
So you just have shit taste then

>>89023976
they turned aquaman into rob trujillo from metallica.....

>>89025900

Nope. IM3 was hot garbage.

>>89025850
But more Bat wank.

>>89025918
Boco, you know better than to keep feeding the /tv/ poster, man.

Don't make the thread/board worse by trying to laugh at someone mentally retarded, it might catch on ya.

What is a good superhero movie?

>>89025954
Not denying that, just calling you out for starting company war bullshit

>>89025897
The movie makes him right about everything, it actually ends with him breaking everyone out of prison to go do his own thing.

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>>89025966
Shit, sorry, fucked up.

More like, talking from a rightclops fan to a rightclops fan.

>>89025975
Blade 2.

>>89025966

Yes si--

Wait...

>>89023332
Even if men were comfortable, women are infamous for not being able to deal with bigger egos than their own. You need to have a strong voice, and thick skin. And those happen to happen more on men, women instead of pushing forward, complain and ask for equality to whoever can listen to.

>>89025975
A movie where the superhero is the most interesting and dynamic character

A movie where the "essence," the core truth, of the character is well-presented

A movie that is reasonably faithful in translating the character's world and supporting cast to the screen, while also acknowledging that some things must inevitably be altered because film and comics are different media

IMO the best superhero movies I can think of are Iron Man 1 and Batman Begins. They check all the criteria I listed above.

>>89025975

Batman begins
Ironman 1
The dark knight
Avengers
Captain America: winter soldier

>>89024673
Peter and Mary weren't married.

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>>89022593
>Justice League will suck
No shit.

>>89026052
Avengers is legit ass crap. Every single line of dialogue is a quip, all the characters are trying to outjoke each other with each line and the acting is horrible. Action looks like crap and the plot is boring.

>>89025446
The ending wasn't about making a book connection, it was setting up more movies. They want to make 5 in total.

>>89023880
you're right, we need more up close shakey cam where the face is cut off at the top and bottom, additional digital film grain, altruism ruined by despair, color replaced by blue/grey, acting replaced by line reading, and story replaced by convenience. all the lines people loved in this movie were ripped verbatim from all star superman, only without earning it.

>>89026134
>it was setting up more movies.
Well it was the most out of place and badly handled set up I've seen.

>>89022715

What really sucks is that this guy liked the first cut

>>89026125
Thor lifting Loki then gently tossing him back down is what keks are made of.

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>>89023299
>Makes this video more embarrassing in hindsight
The crew members don't look very ecstatic.

>>89026172
Yeah, that's the thing, and that's why I generally trust him. He WANTS these movies to be good. I think we all do. They just... aren't.

>>89026168

Its WB man. Gonna set up those franchises.

They're almost as bad as Sony.

>>89026147
Motherfucker, I just watched Civil War recently, don't talk to em about shakey cam and retarded cuts.

>>89024156
does anyone else hate when a movie is obviously shot in 1.85:1 and its cropped to 2.35:1 just to be "more cinematic", but instead it just crops off peoples heads and chins, and makes you feel claustrophobic?

I cant wait for Wonder Woman's release, I want to see the prelude to the Hindenburg

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>>89023531
But anon, Larry Fong is responsible for every visually interesting Zack Snyder movie anyway. Note the visually inferior MoS isn't on here, while every one of Snyder's films that looks decent is.

Not even the cinematography is Snyder's talent, because he has none. Just a wife who's high up within WB.

>>89023471
>I thought it would get better with Johns at the helm, but it's pretty clear that it was just a PR move and he has no control over anything.

Johns doesn't actually know what he is doing, either. He's written some good comics in the past, but that's not the same as movie-making, and his Justice League arc that the movie is based on is terrible.

>>89022593
Is Karen Fukuhara dead?

>>89022613
Doubtful.

>>89024384
how about he uses his wits to imprison or immobilize the villain reincorporating something from earlier in the story. you know, like how superman would.

>>89026281

Who?

>>89023880
nice videogame screenshot, quite impressed with the graphical detail.

but how's the story?

>>89023471
>>89026263
I would also argue that Johns' position is basically meaningless and a PR move to save face. Like, you can hire him as a consultant, but that doesnt mean the committee will listen to him. God knows how many hoops he has to jump or what battles he has to pick to win. At the end of the day, its a room full of businessmen saying whatever they want with whatever bullshit focus test to get their way in an effort to earn a buck

>>89025138
Two season's ain't too bad.

Plus it's the designs that hooked kids, and waifuism.