Will it win the Oscar?

>>89021706
Why wouldn't it?

Wait better question: Who cares?

>>89021706
Considering its message on improving racial relations, I think it'll give it an edge over the competition

>>89021706
I rerally hope it doesn't but Disney already has it in the bag because the voters don't even watch the movies, they just go by the brand name.

It will win the Academy Award for Best Makeup and Hairstyling. Even Pixar can't boast one of those.

I'd be more surprised if it doesn't.

>>89021706
It's a fucking Disney movie that all the kids loved.
Why are you even considering the possibility that it might NOT win?

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>>89021816
Because it wasn't the only one?

>>89021706
Holy shit, Eric Schwartz drew that pic

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>>89021816
They might all go for Obscure Chinese Cartoon instead.

>>89021848
1 billion dollars.

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>tfw Zootope was your favourite movie of the year but you don't even care about the Oscar

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>>89021869
pffft

>>89021871
I wasn't arguing in favour of either one. But Moana does have a Disney princess.

You know the academy judges for best animated feature are deranged anyway, though.

>>89021848
People like rabbit and fox saga more than Polynesian Fantasy Vacation

>>89021908
The academy judges view Animation as a joke of a medium so they vote for what their kids liked.
At least that's why Frozen won.

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>>89021863
He posted a bunch of Zootopia things on his account over the past year.

>>89021816
>all the kids loved
more like all the furriesw loved and went to see it like 10 times per day

>>89021706
Either that or Moana.

>>89021869
About as likely as them giving it to Kubo.

>>89021955
Huh, so he can draw a different style after all

>>89021869
it's an Obscure Fuckin' Chinese Cartoon thank you very much

Yes.

Not because its good, mind. Because the judges don't give a flying smelly fuck about animation and either decline to vote or just give it to whatever the most popular Disney movie of the year was, just so they can wash their hands of it and move on to the other categories.

>>89021706
If it does, everyone will think Disney bought the jury.

>>89021706
The academy almost always picks Disney for best animated picture. They snubbed Lego Movie and gave the oscar to Big Hero 6 instead. Zootopia should still win. I just wish the Oscars didn't favor Disney 24/7.

No because Your Name. was better.

>>89022334
>>89022451
This is true, but Moana is closer to the awards season and fresher in people's minds. Then again, maybe election-season fears will keep Zootopia relevant.

>>89021869
What's this anime about again?

>>89022516
A boy falls in love with a girl...

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Why make this thread for a question you already know the answer to?

>>89021642

You don't know many furries then.

>>89021874
Of course. Everyone knows no one takes the Animation awards seriously.

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Anthrocon Anon from the last thread

Finished uploading both videos of the AC Zootopia panel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwaXX-KDAl4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddnnL7jrX18

>>89022504
Yeah, but just having the Thanksgiving time slot only means it's still in theaters during the Academy's nomination period, not that it's still big and everywhere. Frozen came out during Thanksgiving and was #1 at the box office first weekend of January. Moana also came out during Thanksgiving and is down to 8th place and the small auditoriums at the end of the hallway in theaters.

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>>89021706
Reminder that Oscar Animation winners are just whatever movie their kids forced them to watch.

>>89022738
He probably just knows the young ones, either in college or fresh out.

>>89022975
>Honestly, if they did not have the animated category, Frozen would have easily gotten a best picture nomination.

I am once again reminded that there is literally no chance animation could be better than glorious live-action.
I am also reminded that Beauty and the Beast was SNUBBED

Who here /trash/ /co/?

>>89022975
That first voter is a real shithead. Reminds me of someone I knew in real life that was a self-described movie buff that considered animation to be child's play. When me and a friend were having a discussion on which was better- Coraline or Up- Buffy chimed in and stated that no animated film could ever reach the heights of live actions and then cited The Blind Side as the pinnacle of cinema. I hadn't seen the film at that point and didn't know what it was.

>>89022975
>5
>I actually didn't see a single one of these, but I will act as if I had.

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>>89022882
Dare I?

>>89022975
daily reminder that Oscar judges are old-ass Jews who only like when a movie panders to "muh holocaust" or "mah broadway drama"

If it doesn't win, it will be an upset

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>>89023575
Do it, and I will.

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>>89023729
lasted until 1:40 when the faggot with the lisp started talking

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>>89021706
Does it have the power of meme magic?

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I'm still hoping for a miracle

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>>89023940
>>89021869
>implying

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>>89024528
>over these two obscure freakin' Chinese fuckin' things that nobody ever freakin' saw

>>89021848
Moana? No, if anything, they will give it to Finding Rehashing-the-same-formula-again.

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>>89022476

>>89023795
It was really hard to watch, but at least they are having fun and socializing with people.

>>89024528
>Only the ones that everyone liked should have a chance of winning
Literally WHAT the FUCK

>>89024144

I'm with you friend but not even a blue lantern could overcome my lack of hope at it winning.

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>>89022882
>channel full of furry convention videos and ponyshit
>also videos of Pope Francis visiting America

What

>>89025345
>He doesn't know about Christian furries

Some have online mass on IRC channels and all.

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>>89026802
>Online Mass
THAT'S NOT HOW THAT WORKS

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>>89021706

no.

>>89023940
Wait, did Keit-Ai really become a thing?

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>>89021706
>Zootopia or Moana are the only realistic contenders
>Moana doesn't deserve it at all, but muh brown people meme gives it an edge
>Kubo deserves it but has absolutely not chance in hell

>>89021706
first post best post!

>>89022975
>Voter 1
Lol what a little bitch. No one asked for your "I'm a reeeeeal movie critic who only watches reeeeeal movies with reeeeeal kids who also only watch reeeeeal movies" comments, just say you didn't watch them and move on

>>89026942
Protestants have passed the point of caring. As have the catholics

>>89021790
>the voters don't even watch the movies, they just go by the brand name.
This
the oscars hardly give a shit about animation

>>89021706
I honestly feel like it has a good shot. Hollywood is still in full damage control over Trump and are willing to take every opportunity to say "Trump is literally Satan" and of all the contenders, Zootopia is perceived to be the most at odds with what they perceive Trump to be all about (right or wrong)

I like Zootopia and wish it the best but if by some amazing turn of events Kubo won it, I wouldn't be disappointed. If nothing else, I feel like Kubo not only deserves it but of all the candidates really needs it

>>89022975
I once say a confession from some judges that they still voted despite not seeing most/any of the nominees and just picked at random or "it's the only one I saw".
>>89023340
It doesn't matter why he didn't see them, his JOB is to watch the goddamn movies.

>>89029425
>>89026942
In the catholic church, you can make a mass on tv or radio count if you find yourself actually unable to assist physically, such as being bed-ridden due to old-age/illness. And you need to get a priest or minister assist to your home every time he can for confession and Eucharist..

>>89022882
Ha! Holy shit I made it onto YouTube. Never thought that would happen.

>>89021706
I'll be honest, Zootopia will win, but it shouldn't.

Kubo deserves it, but it has absolutely no chance. Here's my breakdown:

50% chance Moana
40% chance Zootopia
8% chance Finding Dory
2% chance they're feeling edgy and choose Sausage Party (I really fucking hope not)

>>89022302
>"Obscure Fuckin' Chinese Thing" made in Ireland
t. Academy

>>89029826
I mean everyone knows the animation category is bullshit but Oscar bragging rights is a thing and I'd be pretty damn annoyed if Sausage Party won

>>89029704

bcause of message or becuase its disney?

>>89029885
The thing is, some of the Academy members are just aware enough to know they brush off the category; so after getting the petty flak for it over a few years they see some convenient non-Disney adult thing to choose. Combine that with "first adult animated movie" (which it really isn't but they probably don't know that) and Rogen's up-your-asshole "social commentary," and I could see it having a weird little clique.

>>89029676
Which one where you?

>>89021706
Its odds are about 50/50 between it and Moana.
Depends on what movie Academy voters were forced to watch by their kids.

>>89029826
I'd say it's more like 60% Zootopia and 40% Moana now that Zootopia won the Golden Globe.

Academy Voters will likely take that as an excuse to give it to Zootopia over Moana

no
tame impala will

>>89030209
Nah, Zootopia is a shoe in, everybody saw it

If it gets it what does it mean for us?

>>89021706
Its disney, academy doesnt give a rats ass for any non-disney animation movie
Remember Frozen?

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It's going to win because every retard makes the film an allegory about racism and diversity and it's the kind of shit liberals want in the wake of Trump being President
I would normally loath something like this but I'll take furry movies over generic princess shit if it makes the waifu faggots kill themselves

>>89021996
I'm still fucking pissed both Paranorman AND Wreck It Ralph lost to fucking BRAVE of all films.

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Watched the movie over 80x and never noticed that Maui's magic hook is on Finnicks van. Below rear-left marker light.

>>89031559

Did you know Flash the sloth have a "cameo" in Moana? They ran out of time to create new monsters so they placed a mask on him and put him in the realm of monsters. They also put there snowball from Frozen.

>>89031897
That monster was freaky.

>>89031897
Heard he was but never spotted him. Olaf is apparently in as well, but no one has figured out where he is exactly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqlaPttudUc

if it won't I blame the rewrite

>>89024528
Voter 6 is all right in my book, fucking hell

You have to go back
>>>/trash/

>>89021911
This has never meant anything on Oscar night.

>>89029209

Kubo was style over substance.

>>89021790
It's the one animation they've seen so, it's probably going to win.

The voting process has a huge bias toward well-marketed films.

>>89021869
Does Your Name even qualify for nomination?

I thought there were rules about having aired in theaters in the US and I thought Your Name was still having trouble getting in US theaters

>>89021706
Zootopia really sucked. Just boring.

Was anything better than Sarusuberi: Miss Hokusai this year?

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>>89021869
muh heart
first animuvee I'm gonna buy on DVD

>>89024528
Why do we have a animated section again(I know why we have it, it's to prevent disney appearing in the best picture awards). The critics don't want it. The kids don't care, The actual fans hate it cause the critics don't care. Just have separate award ceremony.

>>89033362
drumpf pls

>>89033371
I mean aren't there the Annies

or are those only for tv?

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>>89024528
>two obscure freakin' Chinese fuckin' things that nobody ever freakin' saw
That he'd bother with the freakin's only to jam a fuckin' in there anyway makes it extra hilarious.
>No discussion, no argument, no nothing. The kids watched that one three times - what does that tell you?
You're SURE this isn't a masterfully crafted baitpost /tv/ made up?

>>89033351
To qualify, a film has to play in Los Angeles County in at least one theater for a full set of shows for at least one week. It played at Laemmle's Music Hall in Beverly Hills from December 2-8, so it's nomination-eligible.

An actual for-the-masses wider release might still be on the table for later this year, even if that only means a double-digit theater count. Perhaps if it wins a nomination.

>>89033371

The more awards the more popularity the bigger chance for more Zootopia franchise. After this year Oscars can go fuck themselves. But this once lets care.

>>89021706
DA

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>>89022882
Why do these people exist

>>89033568
because you can't bully them anymore.

>>89033553
>more Zootopia franchise

Perhaps even Zootopia the MMORPG.

I'm honestly surprised nobody's even heard of Zootopia in my country or found it forgettable but everyone's currently raving on Moana.
I liked both films though.

>>89031380
>if it makes the waifu faggots kill themselves

More people waifued the rabbit than Moana.

>>89033769
You forget the autistic Frozen faggots who are gonna be real mad when Zootopia ends up lasting longer as a franchise

>>89033494
I'm getting tired of this shit. Just bring the damn movie here already; it's not like they're going to actually advertise it and hope for a big release.

>>89033776
Frozen was always and still a cash grab.
No doubt Disney's gonna milk it once the sequel drops.

>>89033776
>Zootopia ends up lasting longer as a franchise

How so? It doesn't move anywhere near the amount of merchandise Frozen does.

>>89033829
Disney didn't make enough merchandise to move, they have to make those plans nearly a year in advance and expected the movie to bomb

>>89033829
make it a cop cartoon like bonkers or something

>>89022975
At least the ones in your picture that did not watch them all abstained
Nothing wrong with that.

If the voters only vote based on what there kids watch that pretty much garuntees the win for the mlp film next year no matter how good or bad it is.

I look forward to the buthurt

>>89033614

Skiw down man, lets start slow, with collectables, plushies and maybe board games, step by step, so Disney will fund another big trip to the City

>>89033615

Where do you live, anon, in Poland?>>89033776

If anything, they will be overlapping because of the sequel Frozen fans are moms ,lil girls and betas who wants to get their dicks get frozen.

>>89033928
Philippines, literally everyone in my uni's talking about Moana while racist animals movie remains unheard since it was out.
Halfway being Frozen 2.0 with all the praise at this point.

>>89034062
>Irrelevant island people obsessed with movie about irrelevant island people.
Anon, I'm shocked.

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>>89033371
The Academy aren't critics: they're insiders. They're divided into the following categories:

Actors
Casting Directors
Cinematographers
Costume Designers
Designers
Directors
Documentary
Executives
Film Editors
Make-up Artists and Hairstylists
Music
Producers
Public Relations
Short Films and Feature Animation
Sound
Visual Effects
Writers

Of the 6,000 or so members, how many do you think are from the "Short Films and Feature Animation" branch? How many of those are animators? Hollywood doesn't take animation seriously; they cynically look at them as Disney toy commercials, and they're not far off from the mark. Until the next Disney comes into existence and memes an adult animated (read: not comedy) picture back into success, it'll remain obscure and denigrated in Hollywood.

I should point out too that Hollywood as of late has been especially up their own ass with these awards. They've always been self-congratulatory, but there is merit to the criticism that they politicize nominations and purposely shun even critical successes because they're popular with the public.

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>>89034072
Not really, it's all about the songs.
Pretty much Frozen all over again.

>>89024528
Is this real? Seems too good to be true.

>>89021706
nope but it will anyways because DOSNEI!!

>>89034099

you werent joking, Zootopia barely made 1m in your contry. Moanaeven beat Frozen at your BO.

>>89034290
The fact that people actually fucking clapped after Now You See Me 2 here made me realize that I shouldn't be surprised anymore.

>>89034143
Yes

http://www.cartoonbrew.com/award-season-focus/proof-that-oscar-voters-are-clueless-about-animation-109456.html

>>89034380
So is the Philippines the benchmark for bad taste or something? Have they managed to edge out China as the worst moviegoers in the world?

You guys are mean, France tries it's hardest but can't compare.

>>89021869
I want to see this happen, for the sole reason of watching /a/ have a collective stroke.

>>89035264
>2017
/a/ wins an Academy award
>2018
/mlp/ wins an Academy award
>2019
/asp/ wins an Academy award

>>89022882
Someone repost the pic of the creepy old guys.

>>89033845

no wonder, you dont rewirte the movie 6 months before the release and expect the movie will be a hit.

weird, it worked for Frozen.

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>>89036215
Here you go fampai

I guess it didn't win

>>89035789
>2020
/aco/ wins an Academy Award

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>>89036215
>>89037031
I actually got a good pic of one of them

They've gone to AC every year I've gone, and likely went long before I was even aware of it. I can't say if this is 100% true or not, but according to some other local furries, they're also as creepy as they look, sometimes asking random fursuiters to join them in their hotel.

Oh, and they've had that shopping cart of fox and wolf plushes every year I've seen them. They've never been without it.

>>89037427
any of them with SPH?

>>89035789
>/asp/ wins an Academy award
but Sports are not art! ask Meryl Streep

>>89021706
Do the directors have enough pull in the hollywood circle jerk? If not, no. .

>california

yeah, it will.

>>89029643
Yeah, my granny used to listen to mass over the radio, i got a bit miffed when the priest at her funeral said she faltered in her faith at the end of her life because she kept that shit going until her dying day.

>>89037080
>2021
/pol/ wins and Academy Award

>>89037031
Thank you.

>>89031897
Lel, really? I gotta look for that

>>89021706
>>89021848
But which has more important messages for young girls? That one will get the vote.

>>89042247

why girls?

and what are the messages of these movies?

>>89042366
Because girls need messages and role models. You don't want them to not have that, do you?

>>89042669
The message is to be a small bunny. They're not hearing that enough from the rest of society.

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Do you think Judy and Nick hold hands?

>>89021706
>animated film
depends on how many voters took their grandkids to watch it and how long they lasted awake honestly

>>89042950

of course not! they hold paws

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>>89042950

>>89037493
/asp/ does certain plays as well namely professional wrestling.
Come to think of it where do plays go are they just in a sort of limbo if they have a home why does the wwe not go there.

Anyway point is if they film a match it can probably qualify

>>89038956
Wait how does that work
Would the board auctualy make the film.

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we're gonna drink either way

>>89023340
From what I remember, The Blind Side was a good movie. But the pinnacle of cinema? Nah son.

>>89043367
i love swaps.

>>89043292
source?

>>89033371
We have the Annie's for that

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>>89021706
It will only because some will abstain and some will vote for it because it's the only one they know. I lost respect for any animation awards at the oscars a few years back. They don't take animation seriously at the oscars.

>>89021940
Don't forget Big Hero 6 *shudders*

>>89022451
This.

Zootopia is a deserving winner, it just comes after a long line of undeserving Disney/Pixar films winning on brand-name alone so it'll get unfairly lumped in.

>>89044955
>was up against How To Train Your Dragon 2
Reminder that HTTYD2 was supposed to become the biggest animated movie ever.
Reminder that HTTYD2 was supposed to kick Frozen to the curb and finally shut up all those Frozenfags once and for all.
Reminder that HTTYD2 got nowhere near a billion dollars, godammit

>>89045036
Blame the gay Gobber controversy, and the fact that it didn't have the Disney brandname on it (also it was 'too dark')

Had it been a Disney film it wouldn't matter if there were a dozen gay characters, it would have made a gorillion because 'muh house of mouse'.

Also I am a massive HTTYD fanboy and was crushed it lost... but SoTS and Kaguya were the two best animated films that year.


That all three, plus an un-nominated Lego Movie, lost to Disney capeshit should tell you all you need to know about the Best Animated Feature Category at the Oscars.

>>89045036
it wasn't has interesting as 1 and was fairly generic too

>>89045070
Generic never hurt Disney films though.

People are sheep. They get all up in arms about generic storylines and pointless sequels unless their precious house of mouse does it... then they're more than happy to throw money at it.

Also if the general public didn't like generic they wouldn't have made films like Minions become massive hits.

>>89043734
The Annies are just as much of a joke as the Oscars.

Pros: generally well received, made a billion dollars worldwide, major studio release
Cons: came out in March and most Academy voters won't remember it.

>>89021706
Its not a contest, historically, these have always gone to the studio that smoozes the judges the most. Disney has the most money to smooze with. They'll win. The question is which of their movies is disney more proud of? Amnesia Fish, Furtopia, and Ocean Elsa?

>>89045377
Cons: It's also a shitty movie

>>89046202
Zootopia was both the most well received and made a killing at the box office

Dory had similar reception but didn't get nearly as much buzz online as Zootopia did

And Moana is just Moana

>>89046464
it's just like what happened with lion king and Pocahontas all over

>>89021706
Yes, because it's the popular thing.

Academy awards judges do not watch animated movies. They go by hype alone and fucking guess.

>>89037427
You sure that's not Steve Brule?

>>89046232
>t. contrarian faggot

>>89046507
>Academy Voter: "Gee, I don't know what to pick. Song of the Sea and Kaguya? Pah! Stupid foreign films. I hate voting for kiddie films."
>Turns to 8-year-old son Jimmy, who is in the middle of picking his nose
>"What do you think, Jimmy?"
>"I like Baymax! He's funny! Hehe!"
>"Well then its settled"
>checks off box next to Big Hero 6

>>89022975
>>89024528
Where can I find these?

>>89021869
>>89023940
Never ever.

>>89024528
>Oscar voters
>Complaining about a foreign films no one has seen

Thats rich.

>>89045147
I'm pretty sure the 'sheep' don't get up in arms about generic movies. But if there's less people saying the movie is the shit, you're more likely to hear the honest opinion of the parents which is "it was generic"

But if it makes their kids happy, it's less a problem that it was so generic

It'll it's disney, it's a good movie, it won the Golden Globe, and they go for the Oscar, stop complaining, it doubles, even triples the little thing it was Moana, or other films, it's a great movie

>>89021706
Will it get a cartoon spin-off like Tangled and Big Hero 6?

Because I want a cartoon spin-off, Goodwin can return but they going to have to get a new Nick since Bateman is expensive.

>>89046775
That's so unrealistic, the oscar voting committee is like all 80 year olds, the kid has got to be like 30 to 40.

>>89043277
"The Redpill" is a work in progress anon, with a cameo of Stan Lee.

>>89045147
Come on man, you have to let it go.

>>89050185
I fail to see how this changes the scenario in any way.

>>89045147
>People are sheep
I'll read the rest when my eyes stop rolling

>>89043584

march 2016

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>>89050141

>new voice for Nick

jesus, anon, do you want fangirls to have a heart attack?

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>>89033362
Ma Vie de Courgette (My Life as a Zucchini) was by far the best. Had a Golden Globe nom and will probably get an Oscar nom as well, despite having no chance at winning the damn statue. Write it down, add it to a watchlist, point is, if it ever comes out in the US outside of a few festivals (where I saw it) make sure to see it. It's spectacular, and as is the case with many recent foreign animated films, it dances circles around Disney efforts.

Speaking of which, I don't think I've ever seen a thread for it. Is there anybody who's at least heard of it and is interested?

>>89051638
>>89050141
Bateman alone is likely the reason they'll probably never do a show. That is unless it focuses on other characters

But otherwise too expensive

>>89032186
Yup. Honest and cut to the chase. The point of the film is to entertain as well as tell a story. You can make an absolutely gorgeous animated feature and if it misses the mark on the above points, it's more of a work of art than a damned movie.
I guess I'm saying from personal bias, animation and artistic value take a (slight) back seat to the purpose of what's being presented.
Voter 6 appears to be on the same page.

>>89052506

>defending the retarded voter who voted based on what their kids liked
>defending the decision to give Big Hero shit an Oscar over far more deserving films

Absolutely disgusting.

>>89050185
Then just replace kids with grandkids, its the same fucking thing.

But the mid-aged academy members with kids think the exact same fucking way.

Best Animated Feature for 2012, 2013, and 2014 are arguably some of the worst, most aggravating decisions made by the Academy ever.

>>89046505


You don't believe it was a B movie, don't you? You don't hire 150 people to make a side project.Ot was meqnt to be a metch seller. But they fucked it up.This movie reminds me of Kingdom of the sun/Emperors New Groove, it faced similar problems: writers who had no idea what were they doing.

It was very nice revival era, now it's time for mediocre sequels era.

given that it is cultural marxism: the animated feature yes it will probably win

>>8903212

What the fuck was that?!

>>89023940
If that wins an oscar, the director might kill himself. He apparently hates that its become so popular.

>>89055983
I can understand why someone wouldn't like it if their work made people constantly bother them, but don't people usually make art in the hopes as many people will see what their message is as possible?

>>89021706
The voters for the Oscars literally don't watch any animation their kids don't watch.

IIRC one of them called Song of the Sea 'nip trash.'

Zootopia will sweep it.

>>89052395

interesting. not familiar with modern american sitcom actors but I remember people not being sold on Judy's VA, they ran out of time to seek for someone new.Another proof he put all the eggs into his "muh fursona the movie" basket.

He about police academy prequel sort of tv series?

>>89057018
>'nip trash.'
It was "two Chinese fucking things", song of the Sea and Tale of Kaguya, which was Japanese.

>>89021706
Who cares? The oscars are a fucking joke. Even more so when it comes to animation.

>>89057620
Jesus fuck, how hard is it to get animation fans on that panel?

Or at least people who will take the time to see the god damned movies they're judging!

>>89058292
>Jesus fuck, how hard is it to get animation fans on that panel?
I think animators and people in Animated films are just underrepresented in the Academy or something. I was going to say it's a function of what movies are made, but tons of animated films get made each year, and each movie with computer animation has a shit ton of people working on it. I think there may just be a slant to the academy members.

>>89058292
It's a show, not an actual award.

>>89021706
It says Disney at the start so is only competition is other films that say Disney at the start.

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>>89052375
>tfw have to wait for a rip because 3rd world
It hurts

>>89021706
>Giving a shit about Oscars

It's a bunch of rich Jews blowing each other

How mad will /co/ be when Sausage Party wins?

>>89021706
Yeno

>>89031543
>MUH STRONK INDEPENDENENENENANT WIMINZ

thank the feminists

>>89061516

the story behind that movie was so sad.

>>89061625
what's the story? I never heard

>>89022882
But when will you upload the sexual events that happen in private at Anthrocon?

>>89061652

director was fired, she wanted the movie to be less feminist actually.

>>89022550
you checked, didn't you? I won't worry, then.

>>89052375
It looks damn good and I only got good reviews of it.
I missed it in theaters, and didn't have the time to see it since.
Have a trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d9N5Y_sN8Q

>>89061911
wew lad

great jorb (((hollywood)))