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What about the droid attack on the Wookies?

>>88970451
anyone got a stream for the episode tonight?

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first for the pwoer of the dark side

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>>88970526
What ABOUT the droid attack on the Wookies?

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Say it with me: Madame Mandalore!

>>88970591
Why is Disney intent on ruining Mandalorians further than they already were?

>>88970546
Funny enough, the stream is already on Part 2.

>>88970591
>not Lady

Almost had me there

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I'd been staying out of this thread for a while but I realized when the mid-season trailer went up that I'd missed the entire first half of rebels so I started watching the first episode today
Hot damn

>>88970546
Get in here and join us

>>88969878

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>Recon sneak peak

cool

Mega when?

>>88970607
I don't particularly like Sabine, but seeing the butthurt in posts like this, satirical and serious, is worth it

Also;

>Implying EU Mango were better

>>88970591
what's so important about Mandalore anyway?

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Jesus, Chopper, you ask a lady before you shove it in her mouth. That's just proper etiquette.

>>88970643
CHOPPED

>>88970451
It's really hard to think anakin became this.

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>>88970591

>>88970632
>Male Maria and Chopper

This appeals to me more than it should...

>>88970640
it could provide trained personnel and weaponry to whichever side can woo them

>black female Imperial
>not Rae Sloane

Why does this show love to waste opportunities?

>>88970639
I'm not even a Mandofag, Mandos were always stupid but they keep getting worse

And don't get me started on Sabine, she exists solely for marketing purposes

>>88970696
Well the new Imperial did presumably die (Filoni strikes again) so I doubt they would want to waste Sloane on such a poor showing from the Empire.

I'm sure we will see her eventually, but with Thrawn in the spotlight, you can see why they're not using her right now.

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>>88970526
Whoa, Mr. McDee, I think we hit a Wookiee back there.

>>88970709
>she exists solely for marketing purposes
Wrong. I'm not saying Sabine is a great character, she's easily my least loved on the show, but things aren't as simple as "she's just for marketing"

>>88970709
I don't like pacifist mando.

>>88970733
they could have gotten to an escape pod, or braced for impact, although im not sure being stranded on geonosis is better than dying

>>88970696
Her only purpose on Rebels would be to interact with Kanan. Not get fucked up by the Ghost without seeing Kanan.

Fifth Brother's corpse is a more interesting character than Sabine, she is shit.

>>88970610
>Almost had me there
Lucas would prefer they use alliteration.

>>88970764
She's totally for marketing

>le hip dyed hair girl who is ALSO boba fett

Yeah, not for marketing at all

>>88970807
>Fifth Brother dies the exact same way Maul "died" in TPM
Poetry

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>>88970654
>you will never be as gangsta as Chopper
It hurts so bad.

>>88970835
By your logic, Boba or Phasma were just for marketing too.

And yes, I know, its kinda harder to defend Phasma...

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Reminder not to expend your (you)s recklessly against Resistance baiters.

>>88970859
>hurr

She exists because people liked the original Boba Fett

>>88970859
But they were

Are you new to Star Wars?

The franchise is legendary for merchandizing
Star Wars: The Lunchbox
Star Wars: The Toy Series
Star Wars: The Flamethrower

It's why George made so much money

>>88970859
Phasma was for marketing, and Boba was just a character whose popularity exploded out of nowhere

>>88970835
>not wanting a femal boba fett who actually shoots things
if this was the 80s you would be over the moon

>>88970896
Merch comes after the design choices are made, not before.

Star Wars designs are never chosen with toy sales in mind.

>>88970903
Except Sabine isnt even attractive or interesting in the slightest, she's just "le boba girl"

>>88970859
Phasma was for marketing, no questions. They quite literally designed her to be the new Boba Fett.

>>88970929
She sucks more than Boba, and that is really saying something

>>88970927
that was good enough for the original "look good and stand around" boba fett

>>88970929
>make shiny stormtrooper bitch your new boba fett
>nobody likes her and everyone instead jumps on the "random fucko with a riot baton" bandwagon

Should the next cartoon be CGI or 2D, /swco/?

I wouldn't mind an Avatar-like style. I think it would work pretty well with acrobatic fighting styles

>>88970451
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM7pTSxJKyY
Oh god, that's an Old Man McQuarrie protocol droid that transforms into the battle droid we saw in the mid-season trailer?

>>88970921
E W O K S
W
O
K
S

And more seriously, Lando
Lando was created because there weren't any toys for black kids to buy.
And that to be changed. All that wasted money

>>88970957
to be fair, TR-8R is the only person to have ever beaten a saber-user

>>88970956
Boba wasnt a main fucking character, stop trying to equate them when they clearly arent the same

>>88970959
2D might slow down the action due to production costs

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>>88970959
There will be no more animated 2D, Anon.

>>88970959
2D or bust

Droids for lyfe.

>>88970696
For what it's worth it's not like Sloane would make a ton of sense here. She's a vice admiral by around the first season of Rebels so it's not like she's going to be running around investigating every planetary sensor that's tripped.

>>88970959
CGI is infinitely better for Star Wars, especially when you take into consideration how they produce and direct the episodes.

>>88971016
I'd like a more calm Star Wars show. Focusing on drama and story more than action. Slice of life, scavenger stories.

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Do you prefer the canon mangos or the EU mangos?

No memes please.

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>>88970878
>TFA
stop

>>88971086
>especially when you take into consideration how they produce and direct the episodes.
Could you explain how they're produced and directed? Why is CGI better for it?

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What is it about Phase II clone armor that looks so inherently heroic, despite the obvious parallels to Imperial Stormtrooper armor, and the fact that they spent half the movie as bad guys?

>>88971086
>especially when you take into consideration how they produce and direct the episodes.
how do you mean

I'd favor 2d simply because it's generally easy to depict different styles in it.

>>88971121
Canon Mangos. EU Mangos are bad space Klingons.

>>88971121
canon by a wide margin.

But for what its worth, im not a huge Mando fan anyways. I just think the canon ones are generally ok, and the EU ones are shit-ok

>>88971121

Anything that's not by Traviss, that fucking hack.

>>88971131
Just looks like a stormtrooper with a different helmet to me.

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From:
http://vintagegeekculture.tumblr.com/post/155552054408/a-star-wars-trading-card-featuring-members-of
>A Star Wars trading card featuring members of Yoda’s unknown alien race at prayer.

>Very little is known about the race Yoda belongs to, but since the only examples of the species we ever see are wise, serene Jedi masters (there’s never one just standing about in the background in a spaceport scene, for instance), it’s reasonable to assume they are a peaceful, spiritual, live monastic lives, and never leave their homeworld. It’s doubtful they even have technology or space travel…and if they do, use them sparingly.

>George Lucas made it a policy to never show Yoda’s species. I guess it’s for the same reason that J.R.R. Tolkien added Tom Bombadil and never explained who he was, since in Tolkien’s words, “there should be some mysteries of a world unknown even to the creator.” For instance, the trading card above caused Lucasfilm to pulp the entire run to get it out of circulation. If George Lucas had a story idea behind Yoda’s race, we’ll never know it now, since he sold Star Wars and has no input on the projects.

>Anecdotally, I remember that in the days before the internet was a thing, and every kid was obsessed with Star Wars, there was a bit of folklore going around on my playground that Yoda was actually from a race of giants, but as they get older, they get smaller. Who knows how things like that get started?

>>88971131
AotC phase 1>ROTS/TCW phase 2>TCW phase 1>stormtroopers>>>>>>itroopers

>>88971131
You watched TCW as a kid and so your adult emotions are shaped by your childhood experiences

>>88971194
SNOKE IS YODA

>>88971195
>Stormtroopers that low

fuck off idiot

>>88971111
quads deserve an answer

well if i had to choose between a star wars story about a scavenger and a rebel, i would always choose the rebel

>>88971037
Is there more to this piece?

>>88971194
interdasting

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>>88971194
>that statue
Wait, I recognize him

Does anyone know why CG Tarkin is so fucking tall? Mendelson is only one inch shorter than Cushing was but there's a goddamn six inch difference between the two bare minimum.

>>88970807
Yeah well, fifth brothers corpse might be eaten by a togruta by now.

>>88971234
McQuarrie hated them.

>>88971267
>Does anyone know why CG Tarkin is so fucking tall? Mendelson is only one inch shorter than Cushing was but there's a goddamn six inch difference between the two bare minimum.
care to show your work?

>>88970696

Sloane is still in the Academy at this point and was never captain on a light cruiser.

>>88971267
to make him appear more imposing, if he was shorter than krennic, he would come across as bullying him due to his rank, rather than genuinely more powerful like they wanted

>>88971300
She's an ISD captain in A New Dawn and a Vice Admiral in the Kanan comic. All way before today's episode.

>>88970929
Boba had a cool helmet and voice, wasn't either Imperial or rebel.. It's not odd, really.

Remember, there were very few people outside of the conflict at the time.

>>88971291

Tarkin is a full head taller than Krennic. But Cushing was 6'0 and Mendelson is 5'9. I just saw the movie like an hour ago for the first time and it was SUPER jarring.

I mean they already have a Tarkin with weirdly low res skin textures.

>>88971300
I think that you're thinking of Ciena Ree. Sloane's already a vice admiral by now.

>>88971129
>>88971136

Well the first and most obvious reason is that CGI encourages the animators to make the models move as life-like as they can. In a franchise where keeping everything equally canon to the Live-Action media, this is important to make the cartoons feel like a believable part of the Star Wars universe. Stylized 2d animation wouldn't work as effectively.

But to my original point, Filoni explained that when they started making TCW, Lucas instructed him to direct the episodes as if it was real, live-action Star Wars, not a cartoon.

The rooms, and locations? They're the sets, you build them, you build them properly. The character models? They're the actors, you treat them as actors, you direct them to appropriately make use of the sets you've built.

Also, just to extend that information, having actual sets and models being built means you can reuse them. Genndy's cartoon wasn't particularly flashy, and two seasons of the 2003 cartoon amounted to just 2 hours of footage. Meanwhile TCW and Rebels have about 150 22 minute long, incredibly high quality full episodes. They look better, and offer way more content, and part of that is literally because you can work so much faster, and produce so much more, with CGI.

Don't get me wrong, 2D animation can be pretty (albiet very limited, just look at the limited amount of artstyles, especially the more common and expected ones. Any 3D production worth a damn can put in significant effort to have a completely original aesthetic. Look at TCW for example, I can't think of a single other show of movie with that wonderful handpainted marionette-looking artstyle)

It's just for Star Wars, I can't imagine any animated show working half as well as the CGI shows do, even if you could get something pretty, like that TIE Fighter fan video.

>>88971367
arr rook rame

>>88971358
you assume the characters are as tall as their actors

>>88971337

I misspoke. I thought you were referring to Ciena Ree. The OTHER black female ship captain.

You never see one as a random bridge operator. For some reason they're ALWAYS a captain bare minimum.

>>88971239
You are rebel scum.

But more than that, I'd like to see third parties living their not boring lives in North Shaddaa.

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Will we ever see her incompetent ass in Rebels?

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>Mandalore and Sabine focus in Rebels

Aww, and they wanted me to watch it!

>>88971379

Their canon heights are also not that far apart. Krennic is 1.8 meters. Tarkin is 1.85 meters. That's a two inch difference mostly explained by Tarkin being an inch higher than Cushing is according to the wiki.

>>88971358
Guy Henry is 6'4, so that's why Tarkin is so tall in Rogue One

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>>88971194
I really want to see a young member of their species. It's so hard to visualize Yoda as anything other than 900 years old.

>>88971407
you could have some scum and villainy, but everyone would want it to be about smugglers and bounty hunters, so it would quickly spiral into fast paced action that outstrips the capabilities of 2D

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>Been a major Fettfag since I was a kid
>Read everything with him in it
>Stopped reading/watching EU after KotOR 2
>Check back in after The Force Awakens
>Apparently they're ruining Mandos and everyone hates them now

Fug

>>88971447
Why is Yoda wearing Beats earbuds?

>>88971412
The brain damaged version?

>>88971439

Well why did they use him? You'd assume given how important matching stats is in filmmaking they'd just use an actor that was more within an inch or two.

>>88970451
So what was his reaction when finding out Alderaan was his daughter's homeworld? And that he was torturing her at the Death Star?

>>88971358
Not him, but I never realised he was cgi. Thought he was the dude that played Scorpius.

In my defence, my eyesight is pretty poor.

>>88971480
I think they went for the actor that would best be able to act like Cushing rather than the one with the most accurate height

They probably could've had Ben stand on a block or something, though

>>88971477
They're standard Jedi issue. The catch is you're only allowed to listen to recitations on repeat.

>>88971412
Is that the one Imperial admiral who ended up becoming the head of the Galactic Alliance/New Republic after Jacen Solo got killed by his twin sister for being Vader Junior?

>>88971475
I hated Boba even before the EU wipe, he was always a shit.

Anyways, the Mando's werent ruined, they were fixed.

>>88971447
Yoda is a force apparition, just like Yaddle. There is no species. They were born from Jedi ways living with the force.
Yoda's death meant the death of the Jedi ways, the old ways.

>>88971475
A feeling I know all too well.

Best not to bring it up, though. Just even mentioning Fett is like ringing the dinner bell for certain people who will start hating on command.

Is there a Canon reason as to why stormtrooper armor doesn't stop blasters?

If not, why do they wear it? No one uses projectiles other than ewok. And they beat them with rocks anyway.

>>88971514
Yup

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>>88971500
>filename

>>88971541
Best answer I can give you is that no armor in Star Wars really stops blaster fire. Some can resist better than others, and Stormtrooper armor is just cheap because it needs to be so mass produced. Plus they never expected Stormtroopers to actually have to fight in a war.

>>88971541
stormtrooper armor is space kevlar, it stops light blaster hits at medium range, and shrapnel, so a hit from a rifle will sting like the dickens, and probably kill you

if you look closely, stormtroopers only die to direct hits, while the black-helmeted security guard die to hits on nearby walls

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>>88971463
Not if aimed at older audiences.

But what about droids? We see them off in Rebels. They are hinted at working for crime lords.

>Deathtroopers
>no Krennic

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>88971541
Because the troopers don't get to choose their armor. The Empire makes it to give them a slight advantage over non-combatant civilians they rule over. They don't give a fuck about the armor not stopping gunfire as long as they have more bodies to fill it.

>>88971632
They can be assigned to high ranking officers.

Krennic didnt invent them, anon

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>>88971124
>TFA
That's Ant-Man, anon. And his brother Man-Ant.

>>88971194

I always had a headcanon of my own that Yoda's species where usually very chaotic and animalistic, more like gremlins like how we see Yoda's dark side. As such the fact Yoda is a wise Jedi is no small feat, and the fact we don't see more of them is that they probably get killed if they ever sneak into spaceships, being more of a small nuisance than a threat

>>88970978
I don't remember kids who liked Ewoks.

>>88971655
"Hey Krennic, I'm stealing your shit!"
"Fuck you, Thrawn! Mas Amedda WILL approve my application to Grand Admiral any moment now!"

I love how insistent he is in Catalyst about his promotions.

>>88971670
That is a very well thought out headcanon. I would be 100% accepting of it, if it was ever to be made canon.

>>88971371
>CGI encourages the animators to make the models move as life-like as they can.
This implies that 2D artists are not encouraged to have their characters move in a lifelike fashion, which is a really stupid idea. If the goal is life like animation, then the animators would attempt to have the characters move as lifelike as possible. That's why techniques like rotoscoping were invented, and was actually one of the biggest detriments for 3D animation, the fact that animators simply could not get the animation as lifelike as they could with 2D, since the technology and skill base simply wasn't there. Both medias are perfectly capable to lifelike animation, and this has been shown many times over in both.

>Lucas instructed him to direct the episodes as if it was real, live-action Star Wars, not a cartoon.
This is also something that can easily be done in a 2D animation, and is something pointed out in the great movie Paprika, which has a movie making subplot in it, and in it's explanation of various cinematography techniques reveals that the movie itself was set up as though it was a normal real life production. Settings were set up and designed with what the entire area would look like, rather than just a simple background being made for each shot.

What's mret distressing is that you've completely missed one of 3D's greatest strengths in your argument. 3D will always beat out 2D when it comes to textures and intricate detail that needs to be repeated and moved and seen in various ways. Any kind of texture on anything will always be able to be more heavily designed in 3D than 2D simply because it would be easier to animate it.

Which is funny because Rebels does away with a lot of the texturing that was done with TCW.

>>88971655
>Krennic didnt invent them, anon

Could've fooled me, considering they don't appear in any media that doesn't feature Krennic :^)

>>88971541
listen here maggot, only 15% of battle casualties originate from direct blaster hits, the rest come from shrapnel from turbo laser blasts and artillery strikes, which armor can stop reliably

you could wear armor that stops a direct hit from a blaster rifle, but then it would be so heavy you couldnt move, so its better to dress up for the most common threat rather than the worst case scenario

and a casualty is not a fatality, if you are hit without armor you are GG NORE, but if you are hit while wearing armor than you get broken ribs, 3rd degree burns, and a few months at the hospital, but you are not dead

>>88971475
People hated mando and fett fags long ago.
And they're not "ruining" them because before TCW Mandalorians simply didn't exist in canon.

>>88970451
God dammit, their one question to Pablo and is it about Nightsister ghosts? No, it's a Rogue One question but one where they can go, "Tee-hee, we're so connected to the movies!" even though what they are referencing wasn't even directly in Rebels.

Couldn't they have at least done another two-fer question?

>>88971741
Don't be a fag

>>88971544
I still don't understand why anyone would think electing an Imperial admiral as President/Chancellor or whatever was good idea

Fel Empire was kinda cool, tho

>>88971785
Technically they did exist, Boba was always canonically wearing Mandalorian armor. We just didn't know anything about the Mandalorians until TCW.

>>88971796
We just got back from break, the only questions Pablo has been getting are about Rogue One. Next week, the question(s) will definitely be more show oriented.

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>>88971131
Less heroic, more tacticool.

Phase 1 looks heroic though.

>>88971796
The entire Recon was about patting themselves on the back for proving that the canon is interconnected, once again. Same with the episode.

>>88971741
Good thing we've seen Thrawn using them, huh

>>88971632
>>88971858

maybe they are on loan, for testing

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>>88971477
Because earbuds are canon. Just ask this Canadian shoving marshmallows on strings into his ears.

>>88971852
>Episode features a character who featured prominently in the movie they JUST dropped
>Expecting them not to talk about it

Come on, anon. Of course they're going to talk about how the episode is connected to the movie, when it literally is connected to the movie they just released. It's an exciting time, for them, and the audience.

>>88971670
That also ties in to how Yoda acted when he first met Luke. IE, like the rest of his species.

>>88971836
>We just got back from break, the only questions Pablo has been getting are about Rogue One. Next week, the question(s) will definitely be more show oriented.
Still didn't mean they couldn't have asked two questions. They do that sometimes, you know.

>>88971709

awww thanks!

>>88970978
Lando gets a free pass for actual fashion on the costume, and good facial hair.
And having a actual role on screen.

Lando might be the least shoe horned character in the franchise.

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What is this helmet, /swco/?

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>>88971975
Don't forget his most important feature

>>88971807
Well Republicans think electing a Russian spy as the President of the U.S is a good idea, so yeah it sometime people actions just make no sense

>>88971978
Thats the helmet that Troopers need to wear after they've had their eyes dilated for their yearly eye exams.

I know Saw and Rex agreed Kanan is no Skywalker, but what he did in this episode would have made Anakin proud. Easy mode would have just been to levitate Saw and Rex over with the Force and set them down. But no, he wants them to shoot out a bridge, then have him hold it up AND their weight as they scramble across and it crumbles dramatically.

That's at least 3 1/4 Skyguys.

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>>88972065
Sorry but you need 3 1/2 Skyguys to make it in Rex's book

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>>88972007
I brush my teeth with Colt 45. Works every time!

>>88971701

People forget that Ewoks was fucking huge back in the 80's. They got an animated series, two movies, and comic books. The fandom was so active into the 2010's they were making a new Ewoks series more or less right up to the Disney buyout.

>>88971541
a rock 3kg rock dropped from a height of 15 ft will cause so much spine compression, it doesnt matter what helmet you are wearing

a smaller rock at a lower height would cause similar effects, if the ewok throws it, instead of simply dropping it

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Hey guys, just went to a breakfast place and saw this cute woman working there. I swear she was like the human version of Hera Syndulla
>unfortunately no pics because I'm not an autistic retard who would ask her to do such a thing because I thought she looked like a Star Wars Character

I think it was the face shape that was spot on.

>>88972088
That's only what Rex told his troopers. He was secretly using the Orange Cheeks rating system the entire time.

>spam stormtroopers
>win
Commander is hard

>>88972116
>liking real women

fuck off

>>88972116
>>>/soc/

>>88970451

ALPHA AS FUCK.

>>88970591
Praise Mandalore the Creative

>>88972095
Well, unless you're David Blaine. Dude needs to recheck his midi-chlorian level.

>Anakin had Padme
>Obi Wan had Satine
>Ahsoka had ______
?????

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>>88972095

>>88972116
>Applying waifus to real life people
Don't be a real autist

>>88972183
Despair

>>88972183
captain rex

>>88972183
Lux Bonteri.

We wish she didn't but she did. At least she also had Barriss at least occasionally and also that one girl from the novel I guess?

>>88972183
a bunch of filthy neckbeards

>>88972215
>>88972095
How exactly does it work?

>>88972233
>Barriss/Ahsoka
is yuri against the Jedi Code?

>>88972280
Nothing is against the Jedi Code if you can keep your damn mouth shut about it

>>88971858
good thing rebels will be considered non-canon in 5 years

Temmin is the worst character in Aftermath. It pains me to know that he survives this.

>>88972295
At least he's inoffensive in TFA.

Also got fat.

>>88972295

Survives this and gets to be in all the new trilogy.

At least take solace in the fact that he gets a shit ton of weight and becomes a neckbeard.

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>>88972116
Weak, try to find a real woman.

>>88972295
Everyone is pretty much horrible in TFA. Poor Rae didn't deserve that.

Some people like Mr. Bones, though I thought he was ridiculously edgy. Wendig basically takes one battledroid, covers it in bones and hidden weapons, then basically makes it act like Creepio.

>>88972222

quads speak truth.

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>>88972278
You open a can in public, take a sip, transform into Billy Dee Williams, and the mack game is so smooth a bitch will immediately attach herself to you and allow you to do as you will with her physical form without you having to do anything more than clutch the can of Colt. 45 and look like Billy Dee Williams. It would be magic if it weren't the absolute truth.

>>88972289
Blessed Qui'Gon

what's the point of pilot droids when astromechs exist and can do everything they can?

>>88972339
Dude, stop telling people to go grave robbing. That's sick.

>>88972339
Dies Onscreen, in a kids show
weaksauce

>>88972380

Pilot droids can't reach controls.

It also used to be that Droids could operate systems, but not move around. Zann made it obvious that that was retarded by dialogue in the films, but Lucas tried to hold onto that for years.

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>>88972380
Astromechs can't give you a handy-jay in transit.

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>>88972339
Might want to start with a whole woman before graduating to a real one.

>>88972380
Astromech are more expensive, and can perform additional repair and electronic services related to starships that pilot droids can't maybe?

>>88972419
DELEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETE THIS

>starts off as le spooky ebil genndy villain with a good design
>gets actual good development in TCW show

>becomes a tsundere waifu qt and dies

best arc?

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>>88972425

>>88972431
............ Anakin is your waifu?

Plus sure he has anger issues and that whole "ghost warrior" thing was I guess spooky, and i could have lived without seeing bug eating, but he won't be the villain yet for awhile. Unless you are a Seppy-fan, I suppose.

>>88972355
So far Rae is the only remotely interesting character and she's stuck dealing with Pandion and getting thrown under the bus by Gallius Rax

>>88972431
>waifu
>boy

>>88971670
What about Yaddle?

>>88972477
>Vader throws her off, mumbling that he's a married man

>>88972498
Yoda tamed Yaddle with his paddle. Then she confided him him that she was pregnant. Then she had to have a little accident.

>>88972431
>Assuming Ventress

That Halloween stream lead to a pretty strange dream about her...

>>88972498

maybe he was inspired by Yoda to lead a civilized life

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>>88972522
>Then she confided him him that she was pregnant.

And we all know what happened next.

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>>88972496
>>88972476
fug

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>>88972528
Someone got Yoda wet which created Yaddle. Then Anakin fed Yaddle after midnight creating Ongree.

Clearly this is why Luke had to carry Yoda around the swamp planet. Truly it is Deepest Canon.

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>>88972512

>>88972576
Dark Lords of the Sith are SCARY and INTIMIDATING, not cute!

>>88972545
Huh. I figured this was going to be the Yaddle fleshlight image. Silly me.

So I just watched the last two episodes of Rebels, I'm starting to sense that the show is getting worse rather than better

I was willing to give it a chance as it took Clone Wars a season and some to really find its comfort zone, but Rebels is nearing the end of its third season and it still seems shoddy. Animation quality isn't any better, the story is still dependent on characters making illogical choices, the villains are still laughable, and what could be great moments are squandered

We just had the main characters explore a pretty much dead world where the most deadly weapon in galactic history has been built, and they spend the majority of the time hunting down "click clack" and fighting the most incompetent imperials yet

How about creating a bit more suspense eh? Give a few more unsettling moments hinting towards what has actually been going on inside of spending time arguing with each other for no reason? The way it ends with the poison canisters is such a let down, would have been much better if the bug led the heroes to a giant mural showing a stylized version of the deathstar, a slowed down and sinister rendition of the imperial march playing as the heroes try to interpret what they are seeing

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>>88972592

>>88972592
Vader is teaching Aphra how to scoot her ass on Sidious' carpets. There's nothing more evil. Ask any pet owner. Okay with the exception of waking up to having your cat hoark a hairball into your mouth.

>>88972498
who?

>>88972592
Some say...
The Dark Side might be...
Unnaturally Kawaii

>>88972576
So Sheev gonna have them fuk just for shits and giggles.

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>>88972625

>>88972608

Part of the problem is that Rebels has a drastically cut budget and way more hoops to jump through. TCW just plain had more characters and freedom to run through events.

>>88972608
Kind of hard to build suspense when we already know the answer and already know the characters won't find out. I prefer a lack of suspense rather than an artificial attempt at it.

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Well thank you for this one, google. Now to see if my Colt .45 works every time too.

>allow Jedi to get married
>fear of loss that comes with the attachment drives them to the Dark Side

>ban Jedi from getting married
>feelings of unrequited love provide sufficient pain to fuel their affinity to the Dark Side
>they also just get married in secret, fuck the rules

how do you win?

>>88972783
Only allow Jedi to marry each other.

>>88972742
I think they still managed to make the episode interesting and worthwhile. Geonosians MAY yet survive. They almost had the goods on the Empire for the Senate, playing up that angle which is nice. I hope we get more of the Imperial Senate in the future. Oh and they got a shield generator.

Pity they didn't scoop up any of those Droideka and even had a chance to recruit Klik-Klak as a droid specialist while offering to help protect the egg. Still Geonosis is their home, and we learn that their caverns go even deeper than expected into the ground. There COULD still be other bugs down there somewhere beyond the reach of sensors.

>>88972783
Don't become a Jedi

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>>88972783
by all the bastard children they wind up having because they hit it and quit it.

>>88972863
>film Shaak Ti
god god that looks terrible

>>88972887
>People want a live action Ahsoka

>>88972887
They made her too shiny looking. It looks unnatural.

>>88972783
All of them must marry a great Jedi, and have relations only with that Jedi. It has to be a strong, wise and incredibly handsome Jedi, like... say... Ki-Adi-Mundi, maybe?

>>88970591
Fuck no you ugly shit, bitch is undeserving of having the darksaber and ruling Mandalore

>>88972783
>how do you win?

Order 66

>>88972915
That's one of the reasons I don't want an Ahsoka movie. Two hours of a person in Togruta make up wouldn't be very convincing.

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>>88972932
For the last time, no. Get off holochan Ki-Adi.

>>88972742
Well we would always know what the answer was, but the entertainment lies in seeing the rebels try to figure out what they are dealing with, and the threat it forebodes, just seeing the characters not realize exactly what it is, but understand it is something sinister, it would definitely be more entertaining than the poison which we already knew about

>>88972783
I wonder if they had something like the monks had in Avatar the Last Airbender.
Maybe they weren't against sexual intercourse, just against the concept of being distracted so much they lose the way of the light side of the force

>>88970927
She looks like some DA/Tumblr OC wet dream of a nightmare all poc and dyed hair and all, fucking ugly

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>>88972887
Best Shaak Ti coming through

>>88972339
Just search your local sex offender registry.

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>>88972941
Okay Sam, SAM! Just let Freddie take the keyboard away from you. You're drunk, stop posting.

Togruta or Twi'lek?

>>88973088
Neither, Geonosian

>>88973014
I thought that was how the Jedi worked

>>88973088
which one of those had the head tentacles that made them cum by touching them?

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>>88973088
Literal rodents. Real players go for classy and win it.

>>88970591
>>88967366
>>88966220
>>88964816
>>88964870
>>88964894
>>88964927
She's a shitty Mary Sue like glorified and over the top bitch who can do it all and be all for a mere non force bitch and doesn't deserve the badassery of having the darksaber or even a regular lightsaber and sure as hell doesn't deserve to rule Mandalore.
>>88967226
Agree

These threads are 2 fast to read almost everything and respond on time fml

>>88973088
Neither. Why do you need a made up species when you have Carrie Fisher here to- oh wait.
I guess I'll take the Twi'lek females then.

>>88973217
>too fast
>responding to shit that's hours old from a dead thread
Or maybe you just suck at this

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>>88973253
Maybe he just got back to the old thread?

>>88972380
Astromechs are guaranteed more expensive and if you dont' have them hooked up to a computer you can't understand them either.

>>88973253
>>88973283
Lmao both

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>DURR WE NEED PUPILS 2 RELATE TO CHARACTERS DURR

whatever cunt at Disney that keeps doing this needs to be shot. look at Thrawn too

when did R2 get thruster packs? is that a standard astromech feature or something that Anakin added in custom?

>>88973410
Artoo already had his in AOTCs prior to switching from being Padme's to Anakin's.

>>88973386
Ventress has always had pupils, though. The only time she didn't was in Genndy.

>>88973386
>blaming Disney for Ventress

>>88973386
ventress is better with pupils I think

thrawn is lame tho

>>88973441
>>88973608
ok it wasn't disney but pupils on her are stupid

Well at least certain people can be happy we've had a non-white evil Imperial lady in Rebels.

Not the same VA but reminded me quite a bit of Alura from the new Voltron.

>I know precisely what you mean.
What did Vader mean by this?

They'd lost contact with Saw for two cycles, which presumably isn't that long (not sure what the galactic standard let alone the local one) or how long Saw was investigating earlier with his team. I wonder if long term exposure to the atmosphere got him, or maybe that sandstorm cleared the local toxins out of the area.

Or if Saw is obsessed enough that immediately after this he went BACK to Geonosis after the Rebels whoopsied and dropped the bombs.

>>88973014
that is exactly the reason, marriage means attachment, although leaving behind a string of fatherless children may not be a good idea

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Pablo is reading Jedi prince there. Aka the campiest, silliest, barely-canon-even-to-Legendsest goofball set of books ever.

(Think Captain Planet crossed with Star Wars and REALLY dumb everything like a bearded Hutt, laser-eye-robo-leia, the Emperor's mutant/half alien son and "Jedi Prince" grandson...

This makes me smile like a maniac.

>>88973756
It could be either one.

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Best Exile?

Best Exile

>>88973756
>Or if Saw is obsessed enough that immediately after this he went BACK to Geonosis after the Rebels whoopsied and dropped the bombs.
Of course he did. There was a bug he wanted to squash and a space omelet he wanted to make that mean old Hera didn't let him do.

why does /swco/ hate Maul?

>>88973896
Great, thanks for the mental image of Saw with a knife and fork chopping through blocked tunnels shouting, "I'm comin' for you, tasty!"

>>88973756

I'm more wondering why Saw bothers with lifting the mask and why they didn't just give him a Vader like mask, at least for his lower half and in the "current" segments.

I mean it'd be perfect pottery. A man trained by Vader to rebel becomes so extreme he mirrors Vader's own fall through loss. Right down to the mask and robolimbs.

>>88971978
Snowboard Troopers

>>88973924
shitty character in every iteration

>>88973962
It was better when it was only occasional. The look on Bodhi's face when he first hears Saw do a Vader breath was nice.

Plus it's realistic enough this way. There are conditions where you don't need a breathing tank the entire time like you're scuba diving on land, just an occasional breath of usually pure O2.

>>88974023
Sick, dude, why didn't we get those on Hoth? Curse you, George!

so if a Sith Lord gets murdered by their apprentice, are they supposed to feel proud as they die?

>>88974062
I like his voice

>>88974132
"You bastard but also nice job"

>>88974132
Death is oblivion. Even the Sith know that. You won't be feeling anything.

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>>88971978
I actually like that helmet and think it works better than the normal variations. Do you think if they wore that stormtroopers would have hit some more shots? I get the whole "they were trying to intimidate and capture" theory which I agree, but they've still had a lot of mess ups.

Okay
So
Right
Why do Yoda and Obi-wan disappear when they die, but no one else does?

>>88974180
A better question, I think, is why they didn't plan better for accidents in case Master and Apprentice die together. Or the sheer risk of brain drain, by which I mean the Master dying without properly teaching the Apprentice. The new Master is probably not going to be every effective. If that happens too often you end up with most of the best ancient Sith secrets being lost to the ages.

The best protection against this, recording all of your secrets, seems too high a risk in case the Apprentice finds it and deems you superfluous.

>>88973217
Sabine needs to have a challenge, or needs to be punished for her traits. Obnoxious colors should have her tagged in some places, for example.

Given that she is using Ezra's lightsaber against the darksaber, though.. I say we shall see.

>>88974292
The Rule of Two is stupid, it's best to not ask questions about it.

>>88974221
I have no idea if there is a way to justify a jet pilot trooper. Extreme hoversledding?

would Maul have been able to kill Dooku?

>>88974287
They completed their training to learn how to force ghost on death. Qui-gon didn't complete it which is why he is only a disembodied voice with no body. Anakin activated the "Chosen One" cheat code to unlock it.

>>88974369
Okay, but why do their bodies disappear?

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>>88974313
>Sabine needs to have a challenge, or needs to be punished for her traits

>women being challenged or punished in the year 2017

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>>88974292
>they didn't
You underestimate the power of the dark side. They always have a Phantom.

>>88974349
The moment he felt like he had the upper hand Maul would slip up and die/get badly wounded in a stupid way

>>88974369
If they'd done a proper autopsy they'd have been amazed to find that his vocal chords had mysteriously vanished. Meanwhile Ghost Qui-Gon is looking at them barbecue his body and thinking, "Well shit, I'm going to miss that penis."

Because let's be honest, it's hard to practice shunting your body into the Force and knowing if you got it right.

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>>88974435

>>88974415
I wonder if women are actually smarter than they appear, but they just get away with being kids so they never mature these days.

>>88974399
That's just how the skill tree activates on death. Body leaves the physical realm along with consciousness (instead of just the latter like with all death) to turn into a force apparition with the voice.

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>>88973386
Thrawn looks better with pupils. It's kinda creepy, like his eyes are eternally bloodshot.

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I never thought I'd find one of these bugs so adorable. I swear he was even trying the occasional bit of English (well, basic). Saying, "Sabine," "Chopper," and "Klik-Klak home."

TCW Deathwatch ships look sexy as fuck

>>88974344
Maybe they could pilot the chopper looking things to transport troops? It makes a lot more sense than the normal pilot helmets, which look pretty similar to storm troopers with a small amount of vision.

So now that the Geonosis plot has been revisited and basically wrapped up and we know that Lothal is building TIE defenders, are there any other threads or theories that connect the Death Star and Rebels that haven't yet been debunked or tied up?

>>88974575
I wonder what kind of bug he is. No wings. Not a warrior and certainly not near Poggle's level. Basic worker? Drone intended to care for the Queen's eggs and destined for zombiehood as his only reward?

Pretty tech savvy little guy, that was for damn sure.

>>88974677
The kyber stuff?

last episode was bad


also the writer wrote 24 lmao

>>88974677
Did the Ghost crew ever connect the whole kybers mining from Lothal's crust to something bigger?

>>88974677
Well we know the Ghost crew is present at Scarif, so the Death Star will pop up at least one more time in the next season or two

>>88971978
I think it's not officially anything, similar to this episode's rocket troopers.

>>88972035
>>88974221
The eyes on normal helmets are supposedly good enough thanks to tech that their awkward positioning is somehow negated
>>88974292
>by which I mean the Master dying without properly teaching the Apprentice.
The believed only the Sith could truly bring each other down, and if any apprentice managed to kill their master they were clearly better than that master.

>>88974427
There's also always the stragglers and secret apprentices. Occasionally they cull their numbers.

>>88974805
Nope. They never got back to kyber mining, either, since Lando in season 1 talking about them searching for something. Even finding the Jedi Temple in season 2 didn't mean deal with the kybers. Probably this season and they'll find out probably same as we saw with the Temple of the Whills. Leaving the Temple but ripping out all the kybers.

Kanan's power in the Force is really growing. How powerful do you think they'll actually make him?

>>88973386
>>88974536
>>88973615
He IS arguably better with pupils, but as that image from the book shows he's MUCH better without the little dab of red eyeliner on his lower lid.

>>88974847
The thing is that killing the Master didn't always mean the Apprentice was more capable. The Apprentice just has to get lucky once, after all. And while a Master who makes such a stupid mistake as to leave himself open could be seen as unworthy, leaving behind a triumphant but badly trained Apprentice still isn't a win for the Dark Side.

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>>88974847
It was a joke anon.
Have you never had your eyes dilated?

>>88974987
Yeah but they never gave me those.

>>88974981
And? The Sith are not completely competent.

>>88971371

To add to this, Lucasfilm is building a huge warehouse of props that can be shared between film, games, tv, etc. All digital means they can spin up set-pieces in minimal time since they have existing models which can be converted to CAD drawings for practical effects, cleaned up and HD textured for film, or simplified and stylized for the TV shows.

http://www.wired.co.uk/article/tastemakers-kathleen-kennedy-star-wars this article touches on that a little bit.

>>88975056
>And?
>The Sith are not completely competent.
You just answered your own question with the reason it was brought up. Nothing more, nothing less.

>>88975104
That's pretty cool. Hopefully that means the animated division can do more with less.

>>88974349
Maul was able to defeat Dooku's apprentice, but was defeated by the apprentice's apprentice which Dooku beat

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>>88974949
He likes looking sexy. Don't judge him.

>>88975270
Oh god, Tharwn is doing the playful anime catgirl paw pose.

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https://twitter.com/HGilroy67/status/817956227560841216?lang=en

Apparently Sabine's VA managed to nail the Sand line so well Dave actually let it stay in the episode.

>>88975270
I like to imagine he was going through an art study program about facepainting and makeup using his own face.

>>88975268
I lost track of that sentence

>>88975338
Won Qui-Gon and Ventress, even sewage. Lost to Obi-Wan

>>88974292
>The best protection against this, recording all of your secrets, seems too high a risk in case the Apprentice finds it and deems you superfluous.

Sith Holocron bitches. A holocron is never as good as a real teacher, but it records the knowledge.

But yes, that's why Palpatine can't do a lot of the really bizarre shit Ancient Sith can do. He can do some Alchemy but not to the crazy extent of others, and he can't actually fly or do a lot of other crazy shit. That's because there were a couple of Darths who questioned the ideology or just didn't bother to pass on some of their techniques, or even willingly destroyed information.

A lot of that is why Palpatine relies so often on underlings like Blackhole, the Prophets of the Dark Side, Rokur Gepta. They're dark side guys from other traditions that were weaker or had also degraded from "pure" sith, but could do things he hadn't originally learned.

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/817916698040729600

>IF YOU OR YOUR LOVED ONES HAVE BEEN EXPOSED TO GEONOSIAN INSECTICIDE, YOU MAY BE ENTITLED TO FINANCIAL COMPENSATION.

>>88971622
I wanna hug it and take care of it.

>>88975467
Naturally you're speaking form legends, which has some pretty great"Backup" Dark Siders.

I really liked Rokur's mix of magic and tech into that monster biochem weapon.

>>88975504
Sheevcare covers Geonosian Insecticides, so I'm good

>>88971463
>you could have some scum and villainy, but everyone would want it to be about smugglers and bounty hunters, so it would quickly spiral into fast paced action that outstrips the capabilities of 2D
I... What? 2d can be great for action. It's just not cheap, and generally doesn't work well for large rigid objects that have less reason to justifiably go off-model. (Hence why a lot of mecha animes supplement their 2d with cell shaded CGI for the mechs themselves.)

>>88970607
Instead of ruining Mandalore further with Sabine being a shitty character, they could push it aside and have it be the focus of a different series with better characters. Potential waste of badassery.

>>88975580

Gepta was great. He was obsessive and insane and his Dark Side power was fucking amazing. He was also such a specific form of asshole too.

It says a lot that whenever Lando actually sees him instead of terror it's usually "fucking hell, not this asshole again", until he actually does something scary.

>>88975723
>Potential waste of badassery.

Yeah. Like getting knocked down by a bland man or missing a bunch of point blank shots.

So badass.

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>>88975594
We're gonna repeal Sheevcare!

>>88975742
It's funny though, his own pettiness doomed him several times over.

If he'd let Lando's investments with the life crystal fortune pay off he'd never have seen him again. Instead he died.

>>88972783

Maybe after you take a slave child into your order, you don't force him to supress all emotions and let him actually fuck Natalie Portman for some happiness, especially when she's been hitting on him since he was ten

>>88975881
>especially when she's been hitting on him since he was ten
They knew each other for like a month (and for that time she treated him at best as if she was his older sister, if not a mother figure) and then they didn't see each other for ten years.
How is that "hitting on him since he was ten" ?

>>88976042

It was mostly hyperbole

>>88975270
>make a banner for a show about the Rebels
>all the characters are Imperials

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>>88975575

>>88975853

He died, and Lando met a bunch of guys who could infinitely replicate those crystals with no effort, ensuring he could have all the money he ever wanted forever.

Really I think it says a lot that Lando's characterization post ROTJ makes him a black Eddy, constantly trying to pull elaborate moneymaking schemes even though he clearly never needs them even discounting those stories.

>>88976279
I'm curious what Lando's post-ROTJ history is like in canon. We know he's still around as of Bloodline, but I don't think the book mentioned what he's been doing.

>>88976279
That's pretty silly, since his whole characterization in ESB was that he went straight. ROTJ didn't add much other than now actively fighting the Empire personally.

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>Rewatch landing on Point Rain
Fuck you Click Clack. Your fucking egg can burn.

>>88976427

Nothing.

Like, Billy Dee Williams has been sitting around waiting for the call but Disney decided they don't want him in the future films. He jumped on Rebels immediately, because he always does Lando in everything he can going back to the Jedi Knight games.

Which is why he's actually kind of pissed that they put Donald Glover in. He's been Lando in literally everything Lando appears in that needs so much as a single line of audio. Passing it off to Donald Glover came off as kind of a slap since at least Mark and Carrie have sequel stuff and aren't as attached to their characters besides since other people have played them far more regularly in games.

Being Billy is suffering.

>>88976541

He did a bit of work in the old Marvel Comics and Dark Empire. But that went kind of badly since the offensives he led never went too well and his administrative efforts were kind of disastrous.

>>88976546
Rex is fine with the egg surviving and that should be good enough for you, soldier

besides, more Geonosians is a good thing, you ever had barbecued bug legs? mmmm-mmmmm

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>>88976546
No bugs allowed.

>>88976198
Guess what sort of characters the majority of Star Wars fans like?

>>88976819
Then maybe they shouldn't have made a new series that focuses on whiny cunt ass rebels.

>Uh, this sand gets everywhere
Sabine secret Skywalker?

>>88976708
They should've given Maz's role to him in TFA.

>>88976708
>Billy Dee Williams has been sitting around waiting for the call but Disney decided they don't want him in the future films

I love Lando and Billy Dee but this is good, the less old characters the better

>>88976857
Only because they are morally obliged to, a show about corrupt military assholes wouldn't go well on a kids network

>>88976912
That'd be retarded.
I hope he shows up in VIII though

He owns a planet now
LandoWORLD

>>88976279
>He died, and Lando met a bunch of guys who could infinitely replicate those crystals with no effort, ensuring he could have all the money he ever wanted forever.
I am pretty sure the Oswaft could not replicate Life Gems, they COULD make pretty much anything else so as long as nobody else traded with them and caused mass inflation Lando was set for life.

>>88976279
>Really I think it says a lot that Lando's characterization post ROTJ makes him a black Eddy, constantly trying to pull elaborate moneymaking schemes even though he clearly never needs them even discounting those stories.
I feel like he just enjoys the fun of it, he likes the hustle of gambling, investing, and dabbling in creative new takes on various industries like Nomad City.

He's like the ultimate good-guy venture capitalist.

>>88976541
>>88976427

In Jedi Outcast he gets proactive about increased criminal activity on Bespin. He tracked down their leaders and wound up on Nar Shaddaa where he bumps into Kyle and he takes down the mercs with him. The mercs just work for Imperial Remnant and Desann however, so they fly back to Bespin and Lando arranges for security forces to storm the city from the top of the city downward as Kyle works from the lower levels up.

He wasn't holding office or anything but he was definitely doing cool shit

>>88971500
>So what was his reaction when finding out Alderaan was his daughter's homeworld? And that he was torturing her at the Death Star?

He was too trapped by the sunk cost fallacy of the Sith to care all that much.

>>88976923

I think the thing that bugs me is everyone BUT Billy got invited to come back. Wedge's actor got invited back but refused. Ackbar made an appearance and it's the same actor even though it's a mask and impressions aren't hard. Daniels and Baker got to be the droids again even though R2 has all of one scene and they can fully automate R2D2 now.

Even if Lando didn't get a big part, they could at least have given him a role in the conference room as a general. If they could find a spot for Fisher's kid, they could find a spot for Billy.

>>88971500
We know he sensed Luke had a sister but do we know if he ever found out Leia was his kid prior to his death?

If Leia ends up a Force Ghost it's going to be really super uncomfortable at their Unlife Day feasts.

>>88977008

No he could do life gems. I remember distinctly that Vuffi Raa was super surprised to see it was possible and he could do it.

Not that it matters, since nobody seems to use them after the anthology ended. You'd think that Luke would be super interested to hear about artificial crystals that'd directly affect someone's life force and the Emperor would have at least six weapons built around them.

>>88976541
Lando did GREAT in the old Marvel comic, and passibly in Shadows of the Empire which gave him very few actual roles possibly to avoid upsetting Marvel Comics fans by completely overwriting their canon by having Lando be busy the entire six months.

And in Dark Empire yeah they made everyone on the New Republic side aside from Han and Leia a fucking joke. Lando and Wedge managed to get BOTH of the ISD2s captured at Endor shot out from under them (Well, shot out for the first one and forced into a suicidal ramming action that I'm not sure even WORKED for the second one. I'm 50% sure the World Devastator he tried to ram just ate the Impstar.)


>>88976708
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>>88976923
Billy Dee Williams was actually quite ill during the filming of TFA and had to sit it out. He's thankfully better now.