What went wrong with marvel?

Disney

>>88967586
they stopped shooting on film

What's the word....
Like back when there were too many hair bands who looked the same and followed the same formula? Over saturation of the market?

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Look at how good this armor is

It was durable too
It had a good suit up, not some magical 'metal out of nothing ' shit.


Fuck, I hate the mcu

Over saturation of superhuman characters and bloated ensemble casts. It's counterintuitive to have additional heroes showing up in a titular character's solo movies post-Avengers.

>>88967612
I like you fellow film fag.

>>88967586
ain't gotta try when you makin' a billion irregardless

>>88967586
They fired Jim Shooter.

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Generic plots
Cosplay tier costumes
Cringe dialogue
No good music
Bad fight scenes
Quips

The films became manufactured and focused more on being made on time. I mean, they're pushing for three films a year like an assembly line.

>>88967745
and yet they're still better than anything put out by any other company especially WB/DC

same with Star Wars

>>88967661
nice to know im not alone

>>88967768
shill harder. no one believes your lies

>>88967768
>Hey at least it's better than this other stuff nobody mentioned, r-right guys?

>>88967696
> fighting someone in a melee battle with a bow
> deliberately entering melee range with a bow
> two normal humans fighting among Iron Man, Scarlet Witch and Autismo who by all means should be able to kill them with the flick of a finger

>>88967586
The first Iron Man is overrated.

>>88967908
Why are you trying to start shit?
Just fuck off.

>>88967889
mortality is ambiguous in the MCU. You can be flung against a wall, and slide across some glass and get up.

>>88967908
>literally admitting to being a shill

There's nothing to cry about, you people have fallen so far you have no argument anymore other than "MONEY BABY, I EAT SHIT AND LIKE IT CAUSE THE MEDIA TELLS ME TOO!"

>>88967645
https://youtu.be/ZwOxM0-byvc
This scene was hype as fuck. Especially at 0:30.

>>88967696
i agree with all of that bar costumes, the outfits in Strange where great as was Black Panther in CW

>>88968042
how does he have so much room in that helmet?

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Civil War has some good shots.

>>88968161
that's from the first Avengers though

I can see how you could forget it being an MCU movie and all

>>88968097
He's a manlet.

>>88968193
>that's from the first Avengers though
No it isn't. It's from Civil War.

>>88968193
Anon that's from the final battle of Civil War.

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>>88968193
Just because Doomsday was a misbegotten mistake doesn't mean you have to lie about Marvel movies anon.

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>>88967586
Are you implying that the CGI on the top is better than the CGI on the bottom?

Because it isn't. The lighting is, due to how the shot is frames (which makes this comparison retarded,) but the CGI in the original Iron Man was questionable at times.

>500+ lb suit landing on a dirt surface with no impact marks or sand kicking up.
My ass

That said, Mark III is the 2nd best MCU armor.

>>88968271
>>88968272
nah that's from the battle of new york they use it to bounce the beam to hit the aliens

I can't believe I remember these movies better than you people do

>>88967696
God the cuts in this clip are so fucking jarring. It's so obvious that every shot of Renner fighting is against Scarjo's stunt double, but with every shot of Scarjo fighting it's against Renner's double. You can even see Renner's double's face clearly in shots, usually they at least try to cover the face, shot from the back, etc, but they just fucking keep full shots of the stunt double in. This is CW/Arrow tier.

>>88968161
the cinematography gets better as it goes, it suffers from the modern day handheld trend, which i hope will die soon. TRACKS AND TRIPODS AND STEADYCAM MASTER RACE BITCH

Airport Fight v Battle for New York is tough

>>88968211
Seems like everyone is these days.

>>88967661
>>88967782
The biggest problem is not that they stopped using film, but that they refuse to properly color correct their movies.

They became too popular, which triggers /co/.

The turnaround began with "The Avengers" and was cemented with "Guardians of the Galaxy".

/co/ntrarians have now elected Disney the boogeyman so they're allowed to like at least the Phase 1 entries without losing their cred.

>>88967586
die juden

>>88967768
It is, but that's mainly cause they know their formula and play it safe enough. The problem with WB is that they are rushing things. Instead of doing a logical buildup, it's just running head first into the madness.

>tfw Iron Man's one of my least favourite MCU movies
It's a preddy comfy feel

they realized they didn't have to try anymore. if they had something weird like Iron man and RDJ were in 08 they would have to be creative to get it going. same with GotG which was the last marvel movie that felt like it was trying. (and yall liked it before it became mainstream). Ant-Man was when they realized they could sacrifice creativity for marketing and it would still sell

>>88967830
The box office seems to. :^P
That said yeah I'd rather watch the entire DCEU slate than Rogue fucking One.

>>88968810
>same with GotG which was the last marvel movie that felt like it was trying. (and yall liked it before it became mainstream).

I never liked it, and I still feel like a minority on that. It always felt like le funny Star Wars movie with le cute mascots for the kiddies, don't give a fuck about Gaurdians, never have, and never liked that movie

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>>88968728
And they run the wrong way every fucking time.
DC's strength is the unique tones of their separate stories. The director driven model is a perfect concept IF YOU USE APPROPRIATE FUCKING DIRECTORS
HE DOESN'T EVEN BELIEVE IN ALTRUISM HOW DO YOU PUT A MAN WHO DOESN'T BELIEVE IN ALTRUISM ON SUPERMAN FUCK

>>88968489

and the first?

Spider-Man went wrong. Spider-Man is a complete faggot who ruined every scene he was in.

Fuck the studio for forcing that shit character into Cap's movie, and it's only going to get worse from here. Now that Marvel has their money making prostitute, they're going to get even lazier with the movies.

>>88968525
holy shit i'm just taking the bait. Are you fucking retarded? It's from Civil War.

>>88968882
Nah, GotG didn't feel like SW. I'm one of the few that never really liked it much. Actually, I didn't care for it because everyone and their fucking mom acted like it was the next Star Wars, the next big space opera. I expected some god-tier worldbuilding, I wanted to be pulled into the universe of cosmic Marvel. I wanted to be awed with a sense of wonder. I got, instead, pretty much your typical 'Rag-tag bunch of misfits band together to save the world' plot, but in space. The universe they showed wasn't even that cool imo.

Anyway, people bitch and complain about some legitimate grievances, like Marvel movies becoming more cookie-cutter (for the most part), a lack of good, memorable music, antagonists being a bit on the generic side and being killed off in each movie, and endless quips, but at least their movies are generally still 'good'. Safe, maybe, but Marvel knows how to strike a balance between making each movie stand on its own while connecting it to the larger universe as a whole. Not only that, but they're generally competent as movies. That's way more than I can say about the DCEU.

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>>88968956
here's the part right here

>>88968810
Pump the breaks, are you saying Ant-Man wasn't creative?

>>88968781
Iron Man is great up until the Iron Monger fight

The ending is great too

>>88969125
Huh.

Dumbass aside, those shots are kinda similar, for a few frames.

>>88967586

Not a film expert, what's wrong with the bottom pic?

>>88968161
>>88969125

Cap's shield is just so ridiculously inconsistent. It reflects beams in Avengers, but doesn't in Civil War.

>>88969415
In the top image: use of depth, camera focus, and framing makes for an interesting image, with the glow of the eyes and Arc reactor against a much darker armor stand out. The environment feels gritty and the explosion is not clean, you can actually see heat hazes with the focus difference. Body language on Iron Man seems tired and dulled, but still cold and human.
Bottom: Colors very muted and unified, meaning nobody really stands out. Realism sure, but not very interesting to see.Every point of interest is on the same line, a very flat, symmetrical and boring "here's the team" moneyshot with nothing really standing out. The largest object onscreen is a plane that doesn't factor into anything and in fact distracts and pulls the eye off of the picture. Body language all around is standing, perhaps trying to make something of an impression which fails completely. Everyone standing the same way does not a dynamic teamshot make.

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>>88969523
You're right, but for the wrong reasons. Cap's shield is super inconsistent in the MCU, but your example actually makes sense. In Avengers he angled his shield and himself so the beam would sort of ricochet at a 45 degree angle outward. In CW him and Tony were directly facing each other, no angling, the beam had no where to go but disperse parallel to the shield

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>>88967586
>This thread again

>>88969588
3D films don't need to use shot composition to create depth, and having the figure's body partially offscreen (as in the top image) is disorienting when a 3D effect is involved.

>>88969415
https://youtu.be/hpWYtXtmEFQ

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>>88967586
>airport fight is one of the most lauded scenes in the film
>/tv/ hates it and tries to meme it to death solely because of the establishing shots
>nearly every example used to disparage the film is a shot taken from a trailer
really tickles the ol grey matter

>>88968688
YOU LITERALLY JUST WATCHED THE FUCKING VIDEO AND THINK YOU'RE EXPERT

>>88967586
why try when it makes money and "critics" like it???

I mean the movies aren't bad but they are fairly bland (which is weird considering the source material)

(Except for Civil War which was actually a poorly made film and legitimately a chore to sit through...but generally their movies are fine)

>>88969650
>sacrificing fidelity of the camerawork and framing for a fucking gimmick
3D filming is a mistake.

>>88967586
Digital + Lazy post-prod
But hey, black widow vomiting will still rake millions so why bother?

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>>88967981
Fuck off

>>88969341
no, it was the canary in the coal mine for executive meddling. like there were really good parts but as a whole it fell sorta flat for me

>>88969975
Calm down, aspie. You don't need to be an expert to notice their colors are off. Everything looks gray and washed-off since they switched to digital.

>>88967586

MCU is crap on a cracker? Marvel is shit-tier?

>>88967908
>box office
>rotten tomatoes
I'm confused.
I could have sworn I clicked /co/ not /tv/

I'm worried the MCU is getting too bloated for it's own good.

>>88972769
I dunno why people use Rotten Tomatoes like it's an objective indicator of quality. Ghostbusters 2016, Force Awakens, Revenge of the Sith and Brave all have positive scores.

>>88967768
Let's put this into perspective

DC movies fall apart because of childish over-excitement by the directors that blows away any chance of making a coherent film, plus shit tons of executive meddling which ruins any semblance of creativity that the director aimed for in the editing room

Marvel movies fall apart because execs are leading the charge and are getting way excited at the possibility of having three box office smash hits that make a billion dollars each per year, plus the directors are just looking to follow the familiar playbook and hope that fans are happy with appearances of favorite characters rather than challenging and engaging films

One suffers from a lack of ability to create a cinematic vision without going overboard plus lots of meddling, the other suffers from the fact that the execs don't "meddle" because they were always guiding the vision and have nobody on the filming end that even wants to make something new

Both are just completely adrift

>>88973100
>DC movies fall apart because of childish over-excitement by the directors
>Man who doesn't believe in Altruism in charge of Superman
>"childish over-excitement"

>>88968097

He doesn't, it's the holographic HUD that looks like it has depth.

>>88973148
"Childish over-excitement" implies an inability to rein in one's vision, you guinea fuck.

>>88969588

I see.

But anon, the above picture is a "cool guys don't look at explosions" scene, made to look cool. The bottom one is a random shot with moving characters OP chose a random frame from.

>>88973148
>Man who doesn't believe in Altruism

"That’s an amazing thought. If one country or person had all of that power, the rest of us would be scared to death of what he might do with it. America has a lot of power now and is forcefully trying to police a world that can’t realistically be beaten into being a better place. So imagine Superman is real and has all the power of a dominant country…and he actually uses it the right way and for the good of mankind. Is that believable? Maybe. Maybe not. Is that kind of integrity common in today’s world? No freaking way. If he were real, Superman the person, would become what Superman the character, is today…A punching bag for the jealous, untrusting, jaded, and unworthy. We wouldn’t even believe him when he said he didn’t want to rule us. We’d doubt him. We’d suspect he was lying. We’d fear and hate him. We’d say he was “full of it” simply because we HAD to believe it. After all, if he’s actually telling the truth and he’s actually that good…what does that make us? That insecurity and mistrust is not his fault. It’s ours."

>>88973319
I wish this wasn't true but it really is.

>>88973319
>>88973430
>you are now aware that you can replace "Superman" with "Donald Trump" and it would be 100% correct

>>88973482
Now it's a party.

>>88967586
I feel like there was some cherry picking involved in that pic OP.

>>88967645
whait till they go fot the nanomachines armor

>>88967768
>same with Star Wars

Nigga even the blandest MCU entry is better than TFA and the other shit they're serving.

>>88972775
No fear, Agents of SHIELD and the Netflix series are functionally non-canon

Too bad about Netflix.

I don't understand the kino meme on tv. What the fuck is kino?

>>88974780
>Agents of SHIELD
since when it's not canon? I'm pretty sure the first 2 seasons are canon at least

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>>88974533
90% of opinions on 4chan now come from paid viral marketers who want to influence public perceptions about one thing or another

I remember many months before Civil War was out that everyone in here already "decided" to hate it, because it looked bland or something from the 5 second teaser trailers they saw before. And how excited they were for BvS

>>88975283
SHIELD and Netflix all canon. They'll just never cross over with the movies.

>>88975315
That's just typical 4chan myopia. I had the exact opposite experience on /co/ and recall far more shitposting about BvS than Civil War. Civil War still had shitposting, but it was on a completely different level than BvS. The kind of shitposting was different too. Just typical MCU flamebait, while BvS was drowning in DCEU fans getting swamped and radicalized by people continuing the MoS hatetrain.

>>88967586
They didn't have to try to get people to watch it, they can put out whatever

>>88969415
Someone chose a good pic for the top one and a shorty one for the bottom to cherry pick

>>88967586

Casuals have shit taste?

>>88975282
It's like a foreign word for a phenomenal movie but I can't imagine anyone uses it outside of shitposting anymore.

>>88970219
>being that butt blasted

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>>88967696
Jesus, this fucking camera.

>>88968882
Every time I watch Guardians I like it a little less. At this point it is hovering just above the first Avengers when it started as my second favorite.

>>88967586
Top is Paramount. Bottom is Disney.

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>>88967586
What did go wrong? The Suit CG in Iron Man 1 and 2 looked amazing, but now it looks so fake.

>>88981844
New ones got too much yellow, and less mech to look at.

>>88981844
It looked heavy back then, probably was. New suits are supposed to be much leaner and even compact and such so they should look seemingly lighter which may look shittier. Think heavy cruiser motorcycle vs crotch rocket or dirtbike. The latter two look like they're made of plastic, probably are for most of the exterior panels.

>>88967696
>No good music
this
>Cap 1 and 2 had some of the MCU's best soundtracks
>Cap 3 gets the generic superhero soundtrack because muh avengers

>people referencing the color video
>when its always been proven that the editor purposefully toned down the colors in the video

>marvel movies are critically acclaimed
they just hate DC or are shills paid by disney

>marvel movies are praised by audiences
audiences are plebs and have no idea what good film is

>>88982538
>Everyone who likes *thing I dislike* is stupid, being paid, or hates *thing I like*

>>88967586
You should have shown a shot of an explosion from Civil War. The special effects were actually downgraded. I was AMAZED that Iron Man 1 had better explpsions than Civil War. How did they get away with that?

>>88967966
Agreed. It was okay, but had too many flaws.

>>88967586
That was a pretty awkward opening to the fight.

>>88967889
Hawkeye and Black Widow were just going through the motions. They didn't want to fight but they didn't want the others getting on their case about it, either. It was literally the two of them pretending to fight.

>>88968943
spiderboy

>>88969125
What was the point of bouncing the beam off though? Couldn't Iron Man just do it by himself?

>>88968810

This. All the movies just play it safe and follow the same outline that IM1 had. It's the Disney way, same what they did with Star Wars.

>>88973319
What is this quote from? This is almost exactly how I think, especially the ending. That's the reason normies hate Superman: he makes them seem inadequate. Same reason atheists hate Jesus.

>>88982521
This is REALLY unusual. He seems like a high tier Marvel shill, why would he purposefully make his own stuff look bad? It doesn't make any sense.

>>88975282
A German/Russian word for movie. That's all.
/tv/ is just cancer who should die so this place would be more tolerable for non-idiots.

>>88983137
>Same reason atheists hate Jesus.
Are you stupid? Atheists don't care about/like religion, Jesus is just a part of it.

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>>88983137
How does a fictional character that is supposed to be invincible make someone feel inadequate? Oh no I can't compare to something that doesn't exist, how horrible! If only I could be born with invincibility, flight, laser vision, xray vision, super hearing, etc then I could be just as amazing as Superman! Except without the daddy issues I guess.

>>88983189
>his own
he's referring to the video criticizing the coloring in civil war

it was toned down in contrast specifically in the youtube video

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>>88983414
>Oh no I can't compare to something that doesn't exist, how horrible! If only I could be born with invincibility, flight, laser vision, xray vision, super hearing, etc then I could be just as amazing as Superman! Except without the daddy issues I guess.

You really don't get it... Superman is called a boy scout for a reason. He's generally nice and upstanding and tries his very best to be the better man whenever possible. He tries to find the best solutions to problems and minimize the amount of people getting injured. The dude is just really like a guardian angel to the people of Earth, and the hatred comes from the fact that it's hard to understand that someone with all that power would only want to merely protect the Earth instead of ruling it. It's not that he has powers, but how he uses his god-like powers.

Lex Luthor is the pinnacle of all the normies that doesn't get Superman. He refuses to believe that Supes could be that good, that all the power isn't corrupting.

>>88983555
He's fucking invulnerable it's easy to be a boy scout, hey don't shoot that guy, point your gun at me instead... so you can't hurt anyone, literally. Oh my god so heroic.
It's a work of fiction, as is Lex, and Joker, and Batman, why would anyone be bothered by not living up to people that aren't even real.
It's like saying, 'you can't live up to Dumbledore's wisdom because you're a moron.' No it's because he's not real and no one cares.

Marvel movies since 2011 have been product, and just like McDonald's french fries, they aren't particularly good, they just have a lot of salt for people who have grown accustomed to that on their food, and they taste the same whether you get the fries in Singapore, Moscow, Cleveland or Sao Paulo.

People like the consistency and conformity. The MCU is the McDonald's french fries of popcorn movies.

BTW: BvS was a incoherent mess, but it certainly wasn't either consistent nor did it conform to audience expectations.

>>88967586
RDJ ate up all the budget.

>>88983649
>certainly wasn't either consistent nor did it conform to audience expectations
You say it like it was a good thing about BvS.

>>88983649
which is why everyone hates it expect everything after JL to be exactly like Marvel because that's what people want

>>88983649
>but it certainly wasn't either consistent nor did it conform to audience expectations.
Did you seriously just frame this like it was supposed to be a positive?

I mean, I could understand if it did those things and actually succeeded on every level instead of sending WB into full panic mode. But, you just look like an idiot now

>>88967586
They got popular so it's trendy to hate them now. It can't be helped.
>>88967645
It was also so heavy he went through the floor of his house and fell on his car. The models he started using later on are way lighter so it would make sense they couldn't tank the same kind of damage.

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>>88967586
They seriously need to make their films more visually interesting/distinctive.

The soap opera style bland greynnes is just awful.

Guardians of the Galaxy was their most colorful movie and the visuals in that stand out because of it.

>>88969374
>poetry

Other anons are right. Marvel movies are a manufactured product. Producers just want to make money and the best way to do it is to choose the safest option. Will the next film say something meaningful, interesting and actually stay with you? I don't think so.

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the first Cap movie was beautiful

>>88967645
I miss when the armor felt like armor and could take a tank shell to the chest and walk away with a scratch

Now it falls apart and Captain America can punch it into submission

>>88967586
Nothing as far as I care. I enjoyed both movies featured in the OP.

>>88983414
what chinese movie is this?

Your lives are all manufactured.

>>88986921
So the Matrix DOES exist?

For fuck's sake. man. That's not fair.

>>88967586
They're too far away from the plane and CIA isn't part of the mcu.

Marvel movies are like finger family for adults. They know what will sell and use that same formula with great success to make them some money.

>>88986823
It was. Too bad he was fighting HYDRA, not real Nazis, for his entire WW2 battle service.

>>88986902
Noah 2014 with Russell Crowe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXMPxDSczNA

>
shdfg

>>88981294
Keep spamming these threads

>>88983464
By "his own" I meant "his own team" as in the company he supports. Why would he want them to look bad?

>>88988620
>His team
>Unironic company wars

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Trump did it better

>>88988646
Yes that is what I mean. He is a company war fanboy so it doesn't make sense that he would attack his own team.

That's the whole point.

>>88967670
100% true. Might as well lower the budget to 50 million if you're gonna make that much money no matter what.

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>>88988663

>>88988663
>>88989629
What movie is this?

>>88988663
Bravo bodyguards. Now the sniper can shoot without worrying that the bullet hit you instead of him.

While we're on the subject of visuals, I really think DC needs to start bringing their A game. Themyscira from what we've seen in the trailers for example, leaves much to be desired. So far all we've seen is beaches and caves, no towering greek temples that bring to mind a utopia. Granted its a trailer and theres much more to see, but its odd that they wouldnt want to market a mythical paradise to bring contrast to the WW1 conflict thats happening. The same could be said with Atlantis, which will be some time before we see but its another location WB needs to create. Im also disappointed on how they dropped the ball differentiating between Gotham and Metropolis, which is for some reason separated by a fucking bay but I digress. Metropolis is supposed to look like the city of tomorrow, a place of industry and progress, while Gotham is supposed to look old and depressing like Detroit mixed with Chicago

>>88990139
>MCU thread
>anon posts his anti-DC pastas
Like clockwork.

>>88967605

first post best post.

>>88968042

that music was dope

>>88983555
Evil (or really more the absence of "good") and conflict are very often borne more from fear and paranoia than anything else. Even the most egomaniacal ambitions are fueled at their heart by fears of one's own mortality, the threats the world poses, etc. and so on.

Superman has very little to fear, and so he remains un-corrupted. He is not only invulnerable, but also ultimately above the human world, metaphorically and literally; the most distilled manifestation of a Nietzchean ubermensch. He can be an ultimate good only because of his power and will to be what he sees as good, just as others fear that he can also be their ultimate evil by virtue of being above good and evil.

>>88967612
Second post best post

>>88991648
>Evil (or really more the absence of "good") and conflict are very often borne more from fear and paranoia than anything else.
Wow it's as if Snyder was right in BvS.

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>>88991803
>Wow it's as if Snyder was right in BvS.
In the end, /co/ finally understood the movie.

>>88989948
Antichrist 2

>>88969885
Ant-Man and Spidey were great, everyone else not so much

superheroes without an exoskeleton please leave

>>88967586
Everything.

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>>88974652
>nanomachines armor

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>>88967696
>Around 20 cuts in the span of 10 seconds
I can't be the only one that feels like he's about to have an epileptic fit over this, right?

>>88988663
he looks like such a child wearing the oversized suits.

He's the POTUS, he needs to be well dressed for fucks sake.

>>88967889
bows are a melle weapon though. they are designed to be a club in close combat.

>>88968539
>This is CW/Arrow tier.
Nigga pls, any episode of Arrow is better than this seizure inducer.

>>88967612
>Technology is bad fire is magic Edison was a witch

>>88967586
IM1 was such a good movie what the fuck went wrong with 2 and 3?

>>88994513
Or the Batman Arkham Origins trailer.

>>88967612
No they didn't, Doctor Strange was shot on film cameras.

>>88967612
It's LPs and CDs again.

>>88994646
Hubris?

>>88983028
I want to believe that Tony legitimately wanted to shoot Cap, but Cap reacted quickly and used it to his advantage

>>88983606
>he's fucking invulnerable, it's easy to be a boy scout
Superman doesn't just fight guns, he fights fucking super powered space guns. That argument hasn't been valid since the golden age. Supes fights things that could feasibly kill him all the time.

>>88968943
Spiderman...Wall-to-wall Spiderman, even where Spiderman makes no sense, they will shoehorn him in.

>>88983028
It looks like teamwork

>>88984534
Gunn specifically wanted to evoke 1950's sci-fi like Forbidden Planet and War of the World's.

>>88988663
Puts his name on planes in big letters.

Not at all narcissistic, are we, Donald?

>>88996702
But those movies aren't LELSORANDUMB.

>>88989629
Teleporting in from the Nether Dimension...

>>88969523
but it does reflect them, right into tony's repulsors

>>88988663
Why are they standing so far apart?

>>88997241
He stinks too much.

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>>88967586
All the great Marvel artists would agree that the MCU is a bland, soulless sham.

Can Marvel supporters really defend their choice of filmmakers, as risk-taking artists or even simply talented at making exciting action set pieces or memorable characters? Of course not. It really isn't surprising, considering most of them come from bottom-of-the-barrel Apatow-tier comedies or TV sitcoms.

Notice how the good/interesting capeshit filmmakers come from deeply visual genres (Raimi, Del Toro from horror, Burton and Bird from animation). They also seem to have a genuine love for the material, as it was part of the counter-culture when they grew up.

People like Nolan or Singer who come from solid neo-noir thrillers; while not visionary or creative have at the very least an elegant style of filmmaking and try to tell thematically meaningful stories, treat their characters/universes seriously and the audiences with respect.

None of that is reflected in soulless Disney Marvel movies. It's all an assembly-line production where "fun" (read:quips and awful CGI) is supposed to replace geniune filmmaking. How can anyone defend this travesty?

>>88996763
You wouldn't?

>>88997412
god that picture makes me want to cry

congratulations

>>88997412
I really do hate how Cap 1 is the only film that felt visually different than the rest of the MCU. It felt like what the MCU should have been, not the real world grey it became.

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>>88997412
I just realized I don't even know who directed the Doctor Strange movie.

>>88967696
Why are the Netflix shows so much better than the movies?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B66feInucFY
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5zsVn_vZ9zE

>>88997412
Geez. It's sad that you can't even find good cinematography in the entirety of the MCU. The Last Airbender looks better.

>>88997898
Because they're allowed to show gore, swear, and BIG BLACK TIDDIES. Seriously I hadnt been interested in watching any of the Marvel Netflix shows because of how boring I found the MCU movies and Agents of Shield, but the HEAVING NUBIAN BREASTS in the first episode of this let me know things would be different.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsbrM6ooCvI

>>88997412
Paramount >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Disney

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>>88968943
>>88983006
>>88996546

Look at this fucking bullshit. It's a fucking joke, and yet we're expected to believe it's "epic win"

I hope people enjoy them taking an "amazing" spider shit all over your movies.

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>>88968943
He's the reason why the airport fight looked like a made-for-tv episode.

Apparently they shot most of the airport battle at an actual airport, but at that point Marvel hadn't yet closed the Spider-Man deal with Sony. So once they got the thumbs up to include him, they had to reshoot a big part of it in front of a green screen in the Atlanta set, so I guess that explains the GCI being so obviously rushed and sloppy for a blockbuster. They also decided to change Spider-Man's costume in post, which is why he's entirely CGI is a lot of shots during the fight.

http://collider.com/captain-america-civil-war-avengers-3-infinity-war-updates-russo-brothers/

http://www.theverge.com/2016/5/12/11664554/captain-america-civil-war-cgi-visual-effects-spider-man-interview

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>>88999237
So fucking Spider-Boy ruined what was supposed to be the coolest part of the movie.What a colossal shame. Why couldn't Marvel control their fucking boner for him?

>>88990455
Ramin Djawadi was a great compliment to that movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9PhfUsFvj0

>>88999446
"We've got to have mmmmoooneyyyy"

>>88967696
You're just a turd with bad taste. Maybe if you actually enjoyed the comics, the movies would make more sense to you.

>>89000893
If you like comics, the DCEU is for you.

>>88993956
that's because he is a child. he'll be a disaster for the nation.

>>88999237
> They literally had to CG whole scenes in that airport fight to fit Spidey in, stuff they filmed live action had to be ditched, plate shots had to be binned.

> Sony dragged out the deal to fuck with Marvel as much as possible.

It's sobering to remember that had Spidey been with Marvel Studios from the start, we'd probably have never got Guardians of the Galaxy or Ant-Man.