Steven Universe: ancient times.

>>88956874
Ancient Egyptians existed back then, had cities and civilizations. Unfortunately I think it's only the middle east and Egypt that has anything close to civilization at this point.

Every other human would still be extremely primitive hunters and gatherers.

>>88956973

>he forgets Indus valley and asian civilizations

>>88957105
>Forgets that those where CIA spooks in disguise

>>88957105


Heh, just googled and I never learned about Asian civilizations though we briefly studied the Indus valley.

It was before the Bronze age.

>>88956874
Crying

>>88956874
>4000 BC
>pre-dynastic Ancient Egypt
>Ancient Mesopotamia
>very early ancient China
>early Jōmon period in Japan

>Europe and America still stuck in the stone age

generally, concepts like cities, agriculture, and money already existed at this point

>>88957105
that one did not appear till 3300 BC

>>88957420

>Ancient Mesopotamia

I've been reading up on them some time ago and it hit me how... human they were. They recorded beer recipes and fart jokes, had graffiti complaining about corrupt politicians and already bitched about nostalgia and the young not respecting their elders.

>>88956874

They would have seen ancient civilisations, and due to the planet wide civil war would have affected them indirectly during them.

Afterwards, they probably intervened directly on occasion, when someone starts wandering to close to corrupted gem territory, and would have told them to jog on.

>>88957420

Basically, all these civilisations plus more. I find it difficult to believe that there weren't more ancient civilisations to be honest; we keep finding ancient, almost fossilised boats that were way too sophisticated for the times they belonged to in those areas.

Also, I imagine something happened in Russia, because there's a giant gaping area missing from it. Literally a third of it's landmass.

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>>88956874
>Was there some kind of civilisation already existing?
It was a nasty place
There was a mess wherever you stepped
Where chaos reigned and earthquakes and volcanoes never slept

AND THEN ALONG CAME GREG

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>>88957494
And don't forget, a certain frog and his demented worshippers

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>>88956874
>>88956973
This existed 9500 years ago:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%87atalh%C3%B6y%C3%BCk

>>88957345
Didn't you go to college?

>>88958250
where is that from. This look way too detailed to be that old.

>>88958469
I thought Ur was the oldest city.

>>88956874
>The gem arrived on planet Earth to colonize it 6000 years ago.
Except that's not right at all. That's when the rebellion began.

>>88958469
Actually, it's considered to have been abandoned even before the Gems came to earth.

>>88958587
Well thats makes more sense since then Rose could see them building themselves to become more than what they were if they arrived much much further back

>>88958469
Technology ramps up exponentially. That was 9500 years ago and then.... not really much more impressive architecture until the pyramids.

>>88958587
No, the rebellion started 5700 hundreds years before present time. and ended in 5000 years ago.

>>88958716

The pyramids are not actuallly that impressive on their own, but the logistics that went into them is.

>>88958790
praise Kek

>>88956874
>>88958587
>>88958724
Actually, it's unclear when EXACTLY the rebellion began.
There's 2 main prospective dates:
>Around 5,750 years ago (around the time of the Answer)
At that point there was at least rebels in the form of Pearl and Rose. Seems like they didn't have a real force at that point though. Rose noticeably didn't have her Sword Bismuth made.
>5,500 years ago (the date given by Pearl in the Guide to the Crystal Gems book)
While this hasn't come up in the show at all, in the book which had shit like "Alexandrite's Weapon: All of Them" there's a point where Pearl says they "Fought for the planet's independance 5,500 years ago" or something like that.

My guess would be that the rebellion began over 5,750 years ago, but the war they always talk about didn't start till 5,500 years ago, after 250 years of gathering followers.
After that point, it's always called a "1,000 year war" so presumably it ended 4,500 years ago.

So, yeah, PD could have been gathering up humans anywhere from 5,750+ years ago to 4,500 years ago.

>>88958923
>So, yeah, PD could have been gathering up humans anywhere from 5,750+ years ago to 4,500 years ago.
More likely, she made this zoo project before the war started.

>>88958552


It is Egyptian but it's from 600BC, not ancient pyramid times. Also that statue is extremely popular so I'm certain that's a picture of one of the modern $12 versions you can buy from Amazon instead of the real one.

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>>88958981
Yeah, that's why I put the + there.
She could have possibly gotten humans during the war, but it does seem unlikely.
It's not entirely clear when the Cluster project began either.
Peridot does refer to going through "A few hundred years of reports" so presumably it started 300 or more years before the war ended.

I don't think there were too many major timeline quotes this bomb. Only one I can think of was Holly Blue basically confirming that Era 2 is what they call the time period after the war.

>>88958790
PRAISE KEK

>>88956874
Göbekli Tepe

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>>88957494
That's what I love about the graffiti in Pompeii. It's amazing because, after thousands of years, humans really haven't changed much at all. There's writings of one man saying he made bread, another bragging about getting some booty, and multiple of just general complaints.

>>88956874
No. The WAR started 5000 years ago. We have no idea how long the gems were here before that. Could be a 1000 could be 10000.

>>88959640
>quit shitting in the streets
>Mark shit here

>>88959640

I know logically that things haven't changed. But I still imagine things as being distintly different when I think of the past. The weirdest for me is early high quality color photography, how everything just looks the same. And that's still not long ago at all.

I think it's because of Hollywood I guess. And also, because most major literary relics from back when were written in a high falutin literary style of the time rather than conversationally.

>>88959640
>tfw you lie awake at night wondering if Gaius and Aulus ever fell out of friendship and if they ever made up afterwards

>>88958923
The Answer made it sound like the CG were once larger but had been systematically whittled down to just a few. They then obviously would havve started making a comeback.

Headcanon past this point, but I think it's because of Sapphire/Garnet. With future vision Rose was able to turn the tide of the war.

>>88958790
no. meme magic led to drumph.

>>88959890
>A promising site of a new gem colony. But Progress was being thwarted by a SMALL, persistent group of rebels
Nah nigga, they made it pretty clear that that was the beginnings of the Crystal Gems. Shit was going fine, but Rose, Pearl and maybe some other gems were all there was because they had just begun.

Honestly, considering how they refer to Bismuth as "one of the original members of the Crystal Gems" and are so close to her, and how Sapphire says that the rebellion will end with them catching the rebels there, I'd even accept that at that point it was literally just Pearl and Rose.
They didn't really hint at there being more than them at that point in time (besides the fact that a group implies more than two), and Bismuth didn't seem to have joined yet.

>>88956874
Wasn't it longer than that? 6000 years being just when the rebellion happened

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>>88956874
I want to see an episode where the Gems meet Gilgamesh and Enkidu in Babylon.

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>>88960439
Seconding this. Links anyone? I missed the bomb

>>88961030
who is to say that Enkidu wasn't a gem?

>>88956874
Civilization in the form of large city states existed, but no multiple landmass spanning empires if that's what you mean.
The Egyptian empire existed, as did the Babylonians and there were various other small city states scattered across europe, asia and northh africa.

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Then the Decepticons show up and slaughter the gems for messing with their energon mining operations.

>>88958790
praise kek

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>>88956874
Since cartoons often take liberties with ancient civilizations, I'd picture it basically being the setting these guys are from.

>>88961741
>Oh no. It's retarded.

>>88961504
the Decepticons were in hybernation since the Jurassic period, and did not wake-up until the 1980s

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>>88961792
>>88961741

>>88961932
Depends on the incarnations

>>88959268
>It's not entirely clear when the Cluster project began either.
Peridot said that it was when Homeworld considered they couldn't win the war anymore. Probably after Diamond's death.

>>88962163
Specifically after PD got shattered and YD took over in Earth business.

Why do Gems have emotions anywhere similar to humans? They are profoundly different in every way from us.

Personally, I think the Gems were created by a species similar to humans, that wished to create better robots by making them more like people and everything just got out of hand.

>>88962163
>>88962203
That's the thing though.
She said there were several hundred years of reports on the project.
The project wouldn't have any reports (or at least not many) once the war had ended since they didn't check on it till Peridot came by.
So those 300+ years of research had to happen leading up to the end of the war.

That would mean the war DIDN'T end with PD's shattering, which is still entirely possible, but it raises the question of what did make them finally decide to give up?

>>88959890
>The Answer made it sound like the CG were once larger but had been systematically whittled down to just a few. They then obviously would havve started making a comeback.
i think it's simpler to imagine, at least when you see >>88959268
That from 5700 ago up to 5500 this was just a small group of rebel, with basically just Pearl, Garnet and Rose. 5500 is when the rebellion really started to pick up and gained ground.

>>88959640

The Romans were extremely advanced though, their society was about as modern as ours was just 100 years ago. Tap water and central heating in every home, massive concrete bridges and structures, very advanced machinery, roads that are still in use today, social services, hospitals, democracy with equal rights for women... they even invented the steam engine, though sadly never saw the potential in it and considered it a toy. They were complete outliers in the otherwise gradual advancement of mankind.

>>88962419
>So those 300+ years of research had to happen leading up to the end of the war.
Or there were periodic scans by Red Eyes or other agents landing to check up on the Cluster without the Crystal Gems knowing of them.
As for what ended the war, it might have been a matter of fighting on too many fronts(considering the amount of soldiers they produce, the Diamond Authority must have enemies either within or without) or that one planet is simply not worth the trouble.

>>88962524
>massive orgies where people would eat, fuck, vomit the food they'd eat, then go eat and fuck some more.


They truly were more advanced then us!

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>>88962387
>Why do Gems have emotions anywhere similar to humans?
I am really picking from the show that Gems aren't really the drone race the Diamond Authority want them to be. They are clearly individuals of mind and are kept under a strict authoritarian rules by the diamond.

I like to think the Diamonds are the sole survivor of a decadent Gem society that almost completely self destruct, and Diamonds were the sole survivors, who decided to rebuild Gem civilisation from scratch under stricter structure, emphasizing on utilitarianism and forbidding any creativity like hetero-fusion who they see as a mark of the previous decadent civilisation, as well as an actual threat to their own power.

Them being th sole survivor of a previous civilisation might explain their affection for each other.

and it also explain while Gem's true nature can resurface so easily.

>>88961504
Homeworld seems like a Tier 2 civilization if not more. What tier is Cybertron?

>>88961504
So Energon is somehow just literal solar/hydro/combustion energy condensed into cube or liquid form?

>>88961296
Try /trash/.

>>88962419
>So those 300+ years of research had to happen leading up to the end of the war.
The exact quote, as seen >>88959268
is actually "a Few hundred years of reports", but I guess 300 years is a good ballpark.
This timeline is quite well set:
I'd say The war really pick up 5500 years ago,
4200 years ago, Pink Diamond is shattered,
YD goes, fuck it, let's experiment with fusion and create a giga-gem and 300 hundred years later, they finally leave the planet with the cluster to gestate, with the corruption song as a last fuck you.

>>88962654
It seems like both the Gempire and Cybertron are hampered by lack of energy, but while the gems seem to need Life Energy specifically, but Cybertronians can get it from anywhere. If they had a Dyson Sphere, that'd solve their problems wouldn't it?

>>88956874
Ancient times? More like gay times.

>>88962788
... Wrong thread?

I am not sure it relate to the current discussion.

>>88959640
>Weep, you girls. My penis has given you up. Now it penetrates men’s behinds. Goodbye, wondrous femininity!
[/fit/ intensifies]

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>>88956973
>Ancient Egyptians
WE

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>>88957494

When gems arrived, would humans have seen them as gods and worshiped them?

>>88963192
It's lacking a single-tearing St-Maria.

>>88963285
They most likely did.

>>88956874
They might have seen the ruins left from the finno-korean hyperwar.

>>88963192
Ah those were the days, when men were men with sturdy boots and lances. Not these cardplaying faggots with their wine and belt buckle shoes.

>>88963329
Post that shit right now. It's fucking awesome
and at any rate, far better than whatever fanfiction that anon is trying to shoehorn in this thread

>>88963285

they did on the pyramid murals

>>88958790
PRAISE KEK

>>88963285
>>88963355
Humans probably worshiped the old gem temples even long time after most gems had left.

>>88957494
>>88959640

The more things change, the more they stay the same

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Human were stacking rocks on top of each other 11,000 years ago
Why wouldn't they have? Homo sapiens had the same potential for intelligence back then as it does now.

>>88956973
>Every other human would still be extremely primitive hunters and gatherers.

>Forgetting about ancient indo-European civilizations like Armenia in 2017

>>88960367
>meme magic led to drumph.
Man, i wasn't here during the elections. I kept thinking how 4chan dealt with the results. I imagine chaos is an understatement.

>>88963523
Wasn't so bad, actually. Ponies caused more havoc by far. Even MvS was a bigger deal. /pol/ was batshit I imagine, but sane people don't go to /pol/

>>88963285
That's why there's no religion on SU Earth, they'd naturally worship gems and the gems politely informed them that they're not gods and they haven't met any gods either.

Anyone wants to make a bet that there's some sort of other human colony/empire in the galaxy.

It doesn't make sense that no one abused some warp-pads

>>88963714
Humans can't use warp pads. And Earth's warp pads don't go beyond Earth.

>>88963793
>And Earth's warp pads don't go beyond Earth
At the beginning of the show, I thought each warp pad was on a different planet.

>>88963793
Connie does

>>88963847
That's what the Galaxy Warp is for. However it has been busted for most of the time.

>>88963896
No, she is always accompanied by the gems to activate it.

Greg needed the whistle.

>>88963896
not without a gem around

>>88963192
Shitposting is truly mankind's greatest invention.

>>88963170
nobody said anything about their color

calm your tits

>>88963847
Me too. I was legit surprised when it became obvious it had been earth all along.

>>88962557
that is the result of being advanced

you get bored

>>88956874
I want to give that Steveonnie a reacharound

>>88962537
>Or there were periodic scans by Red Eyes or other agents landing to check up on the Cluster without the Crystal Gems knowing of them.
No way on multiple levels.
For one, Garnet catches shit like that constantly. She even knew BD was on Earth but was too pussy to face her.
The orbs got past her, but nothing as big as a ship or Red Eye would.
And, more importantly, if they had been regularly checking on the Cluster, then it'd be a few thousands of years of reports, not a few hundred.

>>88962796
I think you mean 4,800 years ago PD was shattered. You mean 300 years before the war ended, which was 4,500 years ago.
And yeah, that seems to make the most sense, but there's still the question of what forced them off in such a hurry.
Like, if it was just "Okay, the cluster's set up, let's vamoose" then they would have been much more organized about leaving the planet. They'd end it on their terms.
But the way it happened in Peetle's story, it seemed to be a sudden, unplanned retreat that left many gems behind.
It seems like there had to be an "Oh shit" moment that forced the Diamonds off the planet and into the nuking.

>>88962849
considering just how gay ancient Egypt, Greece, Rome, and China were...

>>88963285
note how some Gem fusions resemble Hindu deities

>>88958250
Is that fucking loss. The meme goes deep.

>>88964305
>And yeah, that seems to make the most sense, but there's still the question of what forced them off in such a hurry.
Pink Diamond was shattered, Diamonds over reacted and decided to go with the corruption weapon with no further delay. The Gems on earth had to evacuate in an hurry.

>>88963170
we what?

>>88964305
>She even knew BD was on Earth

Garnet only knew that shit because Steven mentioned the palanquin. She reacts to stuff based on the data at hand. Remember Cry for Help? She was completely blind to the fact that Pearl was the one fixing the tower because she was looking through futures with Peridot in them. It's entirely reasonable that she'd overlook a probe checking on the Cluster because she didn't know the cluster existed and thus has no frame of reference for it.

That being said, I honestly don't think Homeworld ever sent anyone to check on it until Peridot. It's more likely that they just started the project 300 years or so before the retreat was sounded.

>>88964669
No, see anon, that makes sense that way, but then the Cluster doesn't fit.

Basically, there's 4 major events in the war we know about:
>The creation of the Beta Kindergarten "halfway through the war" to make more soldiers
>The moment the Cluster research started (presumably 300 years before the end of the war) "when it was clear Earth would not be a viable colony"
>And whatever event prompted Homeworld to GTFO of Earth in a hurry and nuke the planet, ending the war.
Pink Diamond's shattering is the 4th and seems like it HAS to coincide with one of those last two events.
But if it does, then that means the other event needs some purpose as well.

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>>88963192

>in the future people will be shitposting about which holodecks are the best

>>88963443
Yep sure......

>>88964824
>No, see anon, that makes sense that way, but then the Cluster doesn't fit.
It actually does.

It's fusion of the rebels that lead homeworld to experiment on Forced gem fusion, that itself lead to the Cluster. Those were done in the Alpha Kindergarten.

At the turn of the war, they rushed out Beta. Meaning Alpha had been lost in some way.

beta might also have been a way to distract the Gem from the Forced fusion experiment lab (the gem didn't even knew it existed up until they followed Peridot's drone), an other reason it was rushed out.

So, the development of the Cluster must have been ongoing for a while already when PD was shattered.

>>88957494

I liked the thing I read about a grand Egyptian General whose beloved pet dogs were burried with him, their names translating roughly to "Blackie" and "Stew Pot" (because you could toss every sort of food at him)

>>88959640

>O walls, you have held up so much tedious graffiti that I am amazed that you have not already collapsed in ruin.

Amazing.

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Is it just me or did this scene get WAY FUCKING INTENSE?

Did Sucrose take shrooms or something? what the fuck

>>88965615
that episode was shit

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>>88956874

>That face when all the unexplained ancient city ruins or all together missing ones (Atlantis as an example) where caused by the Gem war.

>>88965615

Steven finally acted like a kid under pressure and realize if he fucks up something they could all die.

>>88962600

>I like to think the Diamonds are the sole survivor of a decadent Gem society that almost completely self destruct, and Diamonds were the sole survivors, who decided to rebuild Gem civilisation from scratch under stricter structure, emphasizing on utilitarianism and forbidding any creativity like hetero-fusion who they see as a mark of the previous decadent civilisation, as well as an actual threat to their own power.

An interesting concept but I imagine it'd fly against certain "be yourself/freedom is everything" morals the people who write it would champion.

>>88965813
Quite on the contrary, it fit perfectly. It set up the perfect Villains while giving them understandable motivations.

The writing team is a bit more subtle than that and going with the idea that one extreme is not the solution for an other extreme is something they would go by.

>>88957735
HE HURLED HIS MIGHTY MURDERCOCK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czgOWmtGVGs

>>88962387
Gems have been meddling with / protecting / interacting with humans for most of human history. If anything, we have emotions similar to them.

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>>88963299

>>88965963
HE ZAPPED
THOSE DIAMONDS IN THEIR SNOOK

>>88961030
The Armor of the Fallen might have belonged to him.

You think Homeworld and the CG's kicked off some of man's first wars as proxy wars?

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>a lapis terraforms
wdsmbt?

Are lapises supposed to make planets and shit?

Am I the only one who just wants a new Sadie and Lars episode? Yes? I'll see myself out.

>>88966409
no but they help turn them from what earth actually is, into what the Diamonds were planning it to be

don't you remember that hollowed out messed up plan they had?

>>88966409
I still would like to know how they can flight FTL without any ship.

>>88966603
magic

>>88966666
Technically I have to accept that, Satan.

>>88966666
>digits
Confirmed for magic.

>>88958585
Its complicated.
Definitions, City-States, what qualifies as a civilization at the time, etc.

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>>88966666

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>White Diamond is holding an orb

>It's Black Diamond

>>88963170

This meme reeks

>>88966884

Nah, its obviously Homeworld.

If you want to think about something.

>Blue Diamond has a blue spaceship
>Yellow Diamond has a yellow spaceship
>peridiot and jasper has a green spaceship?

>>88967169
Peridot's ship was also a lot smaller. The green ones are probably the general purpose ships.

>>88966603

Infinite propulsion means infinite acceleration in space, bro.

Plus she wouldn't need to FTL. She only needs to get far enough to find a warp pad or a passing ship.

>>88965615
worst episode

>Lapis has the power to achieve escape velocity on her own
>has the power to travel around the universe unaided
>has the power to pull up millions of tons of water into a pillar reaching space and keep it up indefinitely MEANWHILE summoning water clones and kicking the asses of all CGs at the same time.

trite shit like flying, not getting crushed by the weight of the ocean etc doesnt even better

I wonder if she could apply the same energy to a single droplet of water to accelerate it to relativistic speeds and cleave the moon in half with a sprinkler.

>>88965615
LET ME CRY LIKE A BITCH SO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT I'M UPSET.


SHOW DON'T TELL IS FOR PUSSIES.

>>88967169
What do you get from yellow + blue?

>>88967427

Whooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooa...

>>88967230
>Plus she wouldn't need to FTL. She only needs to get far enough to find a warp pad or a passing ship.
Under the light of speed, the ruby ship would ahve taken 70 years to a zoo that is still supposed to be stationed nearby earth. So yeah, she kinda do.

>>88967573

Maybe the moon or mars had a galaxy warp or something.

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>>88966045
that damn clock

>>88967875

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtkGtXtDlQA

noice

>>88956874
My own theory is that the gems arrived in modern times, and the gem war almost completely annihilated humanity and set them back to square one, and it took them 5,000 years to catch back up...

>>88967573

They were taking the Ruby ship directly to the zoo and didn't bother to check if there were any other routes, warp pads, or ships between Point A and Point B. So, again,

>She only needs to get far enough to find a warp pad or a passing ship.

>>88967791
Maybe its a plot hole in a childrens cartoon we're all expecting way too much from

>>88968398

Yeah, its not like SU has a thing for strong worldbuilding and elarborately connectiung every single little bit.

>>88968504
You're right, it's not like that at all

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>>88967875
>>88968142
LOOK AT THE TIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIME?!

>>88965615
You're a manchild, that's why it was intense.

>>88966884
>>88967169
What if White Diamond IS Homeworld

>>88964414
It's a man on his computer sending out information/praise

>>88957420
>says some shit about jomon and Chinese
>BUDD YUROP STONE AGE XDDD

Europeans were factually more advanced than either of those groups at this point in time, otherwise megalithic architecture like Stonehenge would have been impossible.

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>>88969087
I wonder who could be behind this post...

>>88963656
Sane people post on tumblr about cartoon rocks

>>88969087

Uh, no.

No one during that point in time was really all that more advanced than the other.

>>88962654
Depends on the continuity and how we reckon it. Robot-scale fights of a few-dozen individuals indicates Type 0. Building over Cybertron indicates Type 1. Blowing up moons with the supplies of a spy outpost indicates Type 2. Draining the energy of an entire star indicates sustained Type 3 and transient Type 4. So somewhere in those forty orders of magnitude.

And Homeworld looks like low-middle Type 1. Their energy budget obviously exceeds a single planet, but there's nothing even close to a single star, which is billions of times more.

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>>88956874
That was wen God created the Earth so...

They got banished from Eden and had two kids.
That was it.

>>88966409

>this is your terraformar for tonight

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>>88961504
They also took fusion as a challenge

>>88957105
>Indus Valley
History's biggest "literally who" right next to the African empires

>>88966045
Their year zero seems pretty arbitrary why not start it with the foundation of the first city or the when the earliest homo sapiens appeared?

>>88962163
>>88962419
Considering it is made from everyone that died during the war I would assume after it began.

>>88971837

>foundation of the first city

Ab Urbe Condita! Roma victor!

>>88962600
They do sort of seem like a created race. They have programming and are built for individual purposes. They require machines to make more gems and the diamonds so seem like they are some kind of command caste by design and not by politics or savvy working their way up.

>>88971343
Some believe they may have actually been called "Mlechha" based on Sumerian texts

But in general they are a literalwho because despite having a sophisticated civilization and writing system their language has been undeciphered so far, unlike other societies like Teotihuacan and Vinca which may or may not have had writing but are known to have symbols that look like proto-writing.

>>88968889
What if she is a sort of successful cluster? Maybe the planet Homeworld/WD used be a part of got BTFO when they formed a cluster that would become homeworld. Maybe pre-Homeworld used to be shared between gems and organic life

>>88969457
Except that's wrong, do you even realize the kind of large-scale England-sized organization which was necessary to create Stonehenge? It wasn't even like Easter Island, they were quarrying rocks from way over in Wales to send to the modern site of Stonehenge at the behest of what was presumably a priestly caste. This is similar to the contemporary culture of Norte Chico in Peru which is also thought to have been theocratic in nature.

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They should just go ahead and say the first gems were made by these guys before a revolt and the Diamonds took over command

>>88971837
Those are also arbitrary and difficult to place, in reality their shit is just more post-modern nonsense that removes the soul from human society in an attempt to be nice to groups they perceive to be wronged by Western civilization, while actually wronging them even further by trying to universalize and eliminate all different human cultures and histories and homogenize them into mystery meat.

>>88966884
All the murals of the Diamonds show how many worlds they control... presumably.

>>88972156
Actually I rather see the reason being White diamond was made before all with no knowledge of who made her and out of loneliness she created the other diamonds and whatnot and this whole expansion campaign is just there way of not being alone.

>>88970191
... and the gems were the Nephilim mentioned in Genesis 6.

>>88972311
>the final battle concludes with white diamond tearfully becoming steven's friend and then everyone sings

Plz no

>>88962203
the impression I got is that Rose shattering PD was her declaration of war. That the diamonds loathe her and earth so much because the murder came (from their perspective) without warning.

In retaliation, Homeworld launched a full scale counterattack but were getting outskilled by Rose's guerilla tactics and steadily growing nearly immortal army (Rose could just heal any damage that wasn't a complete shattering) which was making full use of fusions,
they decided 'fuck it', implanted the cluster, activated the corruption nue from space, then pat each other on the back with a 'no one could survive that' and made a note to send some scouts out in a few thousand years to see how the cluster is coming along

>>88966884
That's some Whomp! tier deeplore you're wielding there pal. You certified for that?

>>88966457
Also explains how she was so good at growing crops.

>>88972386

>the impression I got is that Rose shattering PD was her declaration of war.

Nope. PD wasnt shattered atleast halfway into the war.

>>88963192

Only 1590s kids will remember this!

>>88962524
>democracy with equal rights for women

Hahaha what

I mean, your other points are valid but. Holy shit. This is choking in the 4th quarter and fumbling the touchdown. This is every Cubs game prior to the big win.

>>88956874
that's around the start of the Jewish Calendar

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Awful lot of fanfiction in this thread

>>88966409

Did Lapis help sink Russia, or was that damage from the war?

>>88972511
Oh look, a qualitypost

>>88972534
We'll find out soon enough anon after 20 more sequentialtownie episodes

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>>88972804
Don't hurt me with the truth like this, anon, she wouldn't do this to us now

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>>88972905
Look deep into those eyes my friend and tell me if you see any mercy.

>>88972905
>>88973159
Jesus she wasn't beaten with the ugly stick somebody pushed the whole ugly tree on top of her.

>>88967399
At a certain point the hydrogen and oxygen molecules will begin to behave like an extremely dense particle beam and you'd just get radiation effects instead of physical damage.
You still need a lot of mass to actually break something big in half.

>>88972097
They also have the earliest known evidence of a plumbing system.

>>88973354
She has an ugly cuteness to her, I would hold the fuck out of her hand

>>88962557
Sounds like Vegas

>>88966884
>A carbonado can scratch/break even other diamonds
>White Diamond has Black Diamond for the purpose of keeping all others in line, even other diamonds, like a leashed attack dog

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From /pol/ earlier today. 1/2

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>>88972905
>>88973159

Please tell me it's a TG. If it's not, I wonder about the sanitation of the overall human gene pool.

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>>88977619
2/2

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WE

>>88977731
>>88977619
tl;dr

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>>88977745
WILL NEVER BE SLAVES

>>88977842
Anon gives some decent reasoning as to why SU is redpilled and sjws don't understand the subtext of the show

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>>88977619
>>88977731
Wow.
You know, I was getting real tired of the show for it's shit pacing but this almost is making me want to go back.

/pol/ is shit 95% of the time but this is like ACTUAL intelligent discussion and reasoning. Cool guy.

>>88966666
magic confirmed MegaSatan

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Just curious

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>>88978895
Lapis

>>88978895

Pearl's songs are always beautiful, especially in Italian

Buuut, I would like a song from sapphire as she has a nice voice too.

Peridot has an unpleasant voice, for singing, settle down.

And Lapis would just sing a depressing oh wow is me fuck the world song.

>>88966242
AND ON HIS OWN KEKED PEARL LIKE A SAAAAAAP!!!!!

>>88956874
alright so, it's all kinda complicated. WE had writing in the form of Cuneiform, but we might have had it earlier than that, because Cuneiform is done on clay tablets that lasts longer than paper. For earlier writing you'd have to look at the Vinca tablets in modern day Hungary, it's possible that writing wasn't a representation of language before the Sumerians before, we just don't and will never know.

The Egyptians were beginning to sow their oats, making carvings on stone at the time.

The Indus region is also thriving, possibly with writing before the Sumerians, though none of it survives today.

>>88958716
It's really likely to do with the limitations of technology they had. Even after these pyramids and Ziggurats, technology kind of stalls because iron, though it's great, has some limitations. About 3200 years ago people discovered how to make bronze and that sparked a technological revolution.

Possibly, also, writing wasn't something considered to be useful by many civilizations. It could have been something only the clergy did, and that would make the extinction of early history and knowledge incredibly easy when the clerics are all killed by the next invasion.

Also, 9500 years ago, you're just on the cusp of agriculture. Until now the planet has largely been too cold to make agriculture reliable, but now it's easy

>>88956874
Jesus fucking Christ, I know they taught you faggots the Fertile Crescent in middle school.

>>88968108
Not the anon you quoted, but
>>anti-western
It's not in any kind of ways
>>anti-white
It's absolutely not
>>anti-christian
In no ways.
>>muh diversity with tumblr tier animation
It doesn't even mention diversity (not that it is initself wrong)
>>while also completely disrespecting, chinese, jewish, hebrew and other traditonal calendars still in use cause fuck, its tumblr
There is no disrespect, at all
>>completely fucking arbitrary starting point
The whole video is about explaining thta starting point. It's th building of the oldest human structure known.

>This is the kind of movement you support only from absolute, deluded nihilism while thinking its altruism, like PETA or Voluntary Human Extinction Movement.
It's like you had this coplain prepared in advance, no matter what, and you selected a random video to post it, regardless of what it had.

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>>88971343
>right next to the African empires

>>88972152
>do you even realize the kind of large-scale England-sized organization which was necessary to create Stonehenge?
Not that much. An hundred people or two.

>>88969087
>proving that Europe wasn't in the stone age
>by showing how they could move REALLY BIG STONES!
Come on man.

>>88971837
>why not start it with the foundation of the first city
That's precisely what they did.
>n reality their shit is just more post-modern nonsense that removes the soul from human society in an attempt to be nice to groups they perceive to be wronged by Western civilization, while actually wronging them even further by trying to universalize and eliminate all different human cultures
How can you be projecting so hard.

One of the main reason is because it allow to basically keep the calender unchanged, with just adding a big one.

It doesn't remove any kind of soul whatsoever.
Fuck,n it's not even their idea, they outright said it's a suggestion from an historian in the 90's.

>>88982621
>Aksum

>>88977619
>From /pol/
what the fuck is /pol/ doing arguing about kid show?

Don't they have politic to discus about?

>>88978895
>no sugilite
You had one job.

Well, I voted for "any fusion" by default.

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>>88963192
>Boot wearing faggots believe they weren't cancerous at some point

>>88971343
Who builded medical universities then?

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>>88979314
>yfw she makes yoko ono improv-tier meep morp music

>>88966045
I could do with this.

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The main thing that bugs me about the timeline of the series as we know so far is

>why the big lot of fucking nothing for thousands of years after the rebellion ended presumably with the corruption wave

Why did the diamonds never bother to consolidate their victory? Why did they never come back and establish direct control?

The only vague theory I can consider is that the corrupted gems are something of a sore point for the diamonds themselves and they don't want their subjects to find out, so they've maintained a hands off approach for the past few millenia and just hung back waiting for the cluster to do its thing and erase all the evidence.

Considering that the diamonds seem to have a heavy association with song and they lacked pinky at the time it's even possible that Rebecca will try and justify them by being ashamed by it themselves and the corruption being a case of botched harmonics.

>>88983950
>Why did the diamonds never bother to consolidate their victory? Why did they never come back and establish direct control?
You should know the answer already.
Because they used the Earth as a gestation ground for the Cluster. No need to re-establish a colony if it's going to blow up anyway.

It's as simple as that.

>>88978895
Was it
>What's the use in feeling blue?
or
>What's the use in feeling, Blue?
?

>>88984015
Then why don't they have a permanent team that's the gem equivalent to an antarctic research station sitting out there and monitoring it?

>>88984073
The cost of establishing a permanent base at the risk of constantly being attacked by monsters was just not worth it.

>>88967399
>>Lapis has the power to achieve escape velocity on her own
>>has the power to travel around the universe unaided
>>has the power to pull up millions of tons of water into a pillar reaching space and keep it up indefinitely MEANWHILE summoning water clones and kicking the asses of all CGs at the same time.

>There is an entire caste of gem with this powerset
How the fuck did HW not utterly crush the rebellion literally from day one or its early stages.

>>88985093
I'd say Lapis are quite rare.

Also, I suspect them to be Glass Canon, very powerful, but not quite resistant.

I mean, a simple punch poofed her.

So, they are not suited for battle.

>>88985093
Roses make minions out of organic life and create impenetrable shields. They could throw watermelons and humans at HW and shield themselves until HW gave up

is the population of their world the same as ours?
the green revolution was mostly possible due to cheap ammonia from the haber process developed to during WW1 for explosives and poison gas to alleviate the lack of chilean nitrates entering germany

would there have been motivation to do so in their world?

>>88985093
>escape velocity
maybe she was moving slowly but over a period of time?

>>88959654

Not 10,000, I daresay, or it would have been a fully developed colony before the war would even have started.

Also, if the war lasted a thousand years and Amethyst was born 5000 years ago...

>>88961425

Enkidu was made by the gods, though, especially to be Gilgamesh' foil.
What human could match a gem strength for strength? Gilgames supposedly was two-thirds divine.

>>88961504

Like Megatron wouldn't find his soul mate in Yellow Diamond.
Or White Diamond...

"On all the worlds, throughout the cosmos, I have encountered none like you. For you, I would abandon the ways of war..."
"For me, you should follow the ways of war twice as furiously! For I, too, have never encountered my like."

>>88977619
>>88977731
Neat. Too bad he didn't delve into the issues of Bismuth's Marxist-esque extremism or Andy being an overtly conservative character who is portrayed as a pretty decent guy.

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>>88961932

Not since the Jurassic.

>>88962387

I think they were made by ancient humans whose civilization collapsed when the gems decided they didn't want to be slaves anymore.

>>88962419
>the war DIDN'T end with PD's shattering

No... but PD also wasn't shattered yet when we saw BD visiting Earth.

>>88962654

In IDW, it has fluctuated because of the war. At one point, the Decepticons had an empire which spread about galaxy-wide, but eventually they had to fall back first to Cybertron and when that became uninhabitable to countless mostly hidden colonies throughout the galaxy again.

>>88965615

I liked it.

>>88966343

Why the heck would they?

>>88966666

Quints for incontrovertible truth.

>>88979314
>especially in Italian

Ain't that the truth.

>>88984033

Precisely.

But she repeated "what's the use of feeling" twice.

>>88959844
>Tfw the one message:
>VIII.2 (in the basilica); 1812: Caesius faithfully loves M[…name lost]
Hits me every time.

>>88985625
Tumblr did scream and cry that Andy's conservative values did not preclude his being a decent person and family man

>>88985188
>I'd say Lapis are quite rare.
I don't know about that. Peridot kind of made it sound like they're not particularly rare, not to mention that, being terraformers and required to possibly lay the groundwork so to speak for the construction of Kindergartens and/or other planned structures, Lapis Lazulis being considerably rare sounds kinda detrimental from HW's perspective.

>Also, I suspect them to be Glass Canon, very powerful, but not quite resistant.
How resistant she is is all over the place though. She got taken out by a single punch (seemingly to the gem) yes, but later on she had a spaceship crash on top of her yet she was going to get away from the crash site almost like nothing happened. To not take in consideration as well that all that ridiculously OP stuff she pulled with the water tower + beating the crap out of the CGs she did while keeping her form stable while having her gem cracked pretty badly.

Regardless though, Lapis Lazulis can fly, and going by what our Lapis is capable of, they have crazy range. They could simply keep themselves at a distance entirely out of reach while blowing everyone else outta the park.

>>88958585
ur mom was the oldest city

>>88986214
>Peridot kind of made it sound like they're not particularly rare
No, she just know about them. And That make sense as she specialize in growing gems.

>>88986214
>being terraformers and required to possibly lay the groundwork so to speak for the construction of Kindergartens and/or other planned structures, Lapis Lazulis being considerably rare sounds kinda detrimental from HW's perspective.
If you only need one per planet, then it's not really an issue. Once a planet is changed in a functioning colony, a Lapis can be reused.
> but later on she had a spaceship crash on top of her yet she was going to get away from the crash site almost like nothing happened.
She was quite bruised and we have seen many cell managed to remain intact from the scrash.

>To not take in consideration as well that all that ridiculously OP stuff she pulled with the water tower + beating the crap out of the CGs she did while keeping her form stable while having her gem cracked pretty badly.
That's the meaning of Glass canon, quite powerful, but easily destroyable.

>>88959640
Amazon user reviews now are no different then the clay tablet ones from 2000 BCE.

Tell Ea-nasir: Nanni sends the following message:

When you came, you said to me as follows : "I will give Gimil-Sin (when he comes) fine quality copper ingots." You left then but you did not do what you promised me. You put ingots which were not good before my messenger (Sit-Sin) and said: "If you want to take them, take them; if you do not want to take them, go away!"

What do you take me for, that you treat somebody like me with such contempt? I have sent as messengers gentlemen like ourselves to collect the bag with my money (deposited with you) but you have treated me with contempt by sending them back to me empty-handed several times, and that through enemy territory. Is there anyone among the merchants who trade with Telmun who has treated me in this way? You alone treat my messenger with contempt! On account of that one (trifling) mina of silver which I owe(?) you, you feel free to speak in such a way, while I have given to the palace on your behalf 1,080 pounds of copper, and umi-abum has likewise given 1,080 pounds of copper, apart from what we both have had written on a sealed tablet to be kept in the temple of Samas.

How have you treated me for that copper? You have withheld my money bag from me in enemy territory; it is now up to you to restore (my money) to me in full.

Take cognizance that (from now on) I will not accept here any copper from you that is not of fine quality. I shall (from now on) select and take the ingots individually in my own yard, and I shall exercise against you my right of rejection because you have treated me with contempt.

>>88985625
Also good points

>>88982594
Read
>>88977731
>>88977619

>>88986693
I fail to see how someone talking about SU on /pol/ manage to prove the video there >>88966045
is in any way tumblr.
It's in no way related.

My point still stand. this vidoe is in no way anti-white or anything.

>>88986802
I mean, the points make sense though. Even if it is /pol/

>>88986439
Being how prone to words she is though, and how she's had no problems detailing the roles of other gems (Pearl, Amethyst, Garnet to some extent), if Lapis Lazulis were rare, you'd think she'd mention that.
Then again, she never mentioned what role Lazulis were made for so.

>>88986482
>If you only need one per planet, then it's not really an issue.
But then why would they only need the one when having multiples would make it more productive. And HW is an ever expanding race, I doubt they'd be going around conquering just one planet at a time.

>She was quite bruised and we have seen many cell managed to remain intact from the scrash.
She was bruised yet not taken out. She even managed to almost fly away without issue. I'm sure she'd have no problems using any of her powers at the moment too if she'd wanted.

>easily destroyable.
>quotes me on how even as her gem was nearly broken, she kept on trucking and beating the CGs as if nothing was wrong
Her gem being nearly destroyed here isn't exactly a point to her status as glass canon I don't think.

>>88986863
What point?

>>88986898
>But then why would they only need the one when having multiples would make it more productive.
We don't know how terraform work.
>And HW is an ever expanding race, I doubt they'd be going around conquering just one planet at a time.
Doesn't mean they can produce Lapis at will.
>>quotes me on how even as her gem was nearly broken, she kept on trucking
A cracked gem isn't perma poofed. That we have seen. Being poofed come from the damage of the light body. A cracked gem can still restore itself.

when /sug/ back on /co/

>>88986944
Nice digits, but maybe try reading?

>>88987297
I try and I don't get it. I point out the dude here >>88968108
is in complete BS mode and in reply to that, I am being pointed to screencap that are completly unrelated to what was being talked about.

Unless you actually take the time to explain what you were trying to say in more that 3 words, I will never get the point you were trying to convey.

>>88986543

It would have been perfect if he had opened with "One star, would not recommend"

>>88987009

Two weeks, when the bomb airs officially.

>>88963477
Hah, looks like an Armenian outted himself. Armenians and civilization, hahaha. That is like the Turks considering themselves part of Europe.

>>88987742
>officially

so the entire bomb got leaked? Is that why there's a bunch of new episodes all of the sudden??

>>88989080
Not leaked, it got officially streamed on the CN website.

Then it got removed.

>>88989163
for what reason

>>88989340
It was only temporary.

>>88989340

Because CN stands for 'Clumsy Nitwits'.

>>88977619
>>88977731

Just bumping these posts because it's a pretty good dissertation with pretty concise points about the show's underlying ideas and conflicts.

>>88977619
>>88977731
thanks

>>88977619
>>88977731
>>88990622
>>88990937
honestly, he is mostly pointing out the obvious, imo.

And the SJW he is talking about are borderline caricature. I mean, I know those kind of people exist, but most are already aware and agree with what he is saying. There isn't much to be "redpilled" by this kind of info.

My only point of disagreement is when he he say how the gems are incompetent single mothers that put Steven's live at risk.

They are simple characters with flaws and the reason they put steven at risk is because of their alien nature, not their "single mother" nature. Not to mention. Everyone know those risks. It's fully intended for Steven to learn about his magic power and continue to protect the earth as her mother was doing and if it is wrong, then Greg is fully complicit and agreeing with that. I wouldn't put that as a bad character trait, but as a necessity for he show to have a story.

It's a kid show about kid having adventures. You have to remove the parental responsibility to keep the kid out of danger in some way or you'll never go anywhere (case in point, Connie's mother, you have to accept that she agree that Connie will be fighting gem monsters, but you know it would never happens in real life. Suspension of disbelief is taking an hard one on this one, but the show must go on).

I'd say the Gems are still growing at this mom thing, as it turns out it's actually a new thing for them. they are new at this. Greg already has got 13 years to grow as a father and become better at it. He started out as a drop-beat smooching out of what he could and it actually took time for him to mature as a person and as a father. But those are thing of the past when the show start. What we watch Steven, growing as a person, and the gem learning to deal with Steven. Their character growth is what the show focus on. Greg, in the end, whil important, is still a secondary character, on the same level as Connie.

>>88964680
WUZ KANGS

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I'm sure this has been brought up before and discussed to death by /k/ommandos, but could humans mount any kind of defense against gems? We've seen Amethyst cracked by a fall onto a rock, wouldn't it be safe to assume that a well placed bullet could bust a gem, or at least pierce their form and cause them to poof?

>>88993661
The Homeworld drains the oceans and kills everyone.

>>88993726
I should have been more specific, could a well equipped human do anything to a gem one on one.

>>88993753
Depends on the gem.

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>>88993793
Let's say a modern day member of an army of a major world power vs a single Ruby. Assume that they're both equipped to do their job, which is to fight a war, even with the limited info on gem wartime equipment.

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>>88993661
Maybe.

Then again maybe no. In hand to hand combats, every part of the human body is a weak point while the gem only have one.

Missed shit means the gem can be a t best poofed and will come back to fight, even in a matter of minutes. Gems have long rrange weapons with basically infinite amos while humans can lose their weapon and have limited amos. Even weker soldier have powerfull enhancer.

When it come to vehicle to vehicle, it's even Worst. They have Spaceship who can take Laser light canon beam as if it was nothing, and can laser shot targets that only rose's shield can shit.

Gem also have the ability to shit down electricity, even if it was an accidents. They would have no issue replicating it.

No, we are fucked. We only might stand a chance against a few gems with no vehicles while humans would be heavy equipped. But there is little chance a confrontation with Homeworld Gem would result in this kind of asymmetric warfare.

>>88993661
its not doubt gems are not indestructible, but Sugar clearly doesn't want to focus on Human and Gem conflict. It doesn't really make sense though. You have gems as this allegedly advanced alien race, but they use pretty primitive technology when fighting against each other on Earth(Breaking Point)

>>88993859
Depends on who has the initiative.

If the trained human has the initiative, it wouldn't take much to poof the with rifle fire since gems aren't bulletproof.

If the trained Ruby has the initiative, it can easily throw flammable projectiles with enough power and accuracy to kill man. A Ruby can also use guerrilla tactics to ambush and overpower the human, since it's been shown that a Ruby can overpower Steven, who has superhuman strength.

>>88993907
>>88994012
>>88994036
All valid and interesting points! I agree that in the long run humans would be too far behind technologically to combat gems, and that their planet would eventually become uninhabitable from the resulting "war". From what we've seen from the show gems don't know much of anything about humans, so they must have completely subverted the development of gunpowder based weapons to the point where humans are not a threat, or humans have never been intelligent enough to recognize the gems as the threat that they are. I honestly think that the naive Ruby would be able to tell if they had killed someone or not, and would most likely stop an attack once a human was rendered unconscious. But honestly, I picked a Ruby to give a human the best chance of beating. A quartz soldier would most likely have a better understanding of death and how to protect itself from human weapons.

>>88993661
Humans against Rose's rebellion era gems? Maybe
Humans against modern Gems with their hand ships? Not a chance in hell.

>>88994176
>I honestly think that the naive Ruby would be able to tell if they had killed someone or not, and would most likely stop an attack once a human was rendered unconscious
A naive ruby would not understand that humans don't poof, so they would try to beat it until it explodes into chunky salsa.

>>88959640
The original shitposters

>>88993661
>>88993907
>>88994209

When we saw Prison Break, Steven could get through the cell, and resist their taser things. Perhaps Humans are either overlooked or forgotten about by most gems that they consider them a non issue, hence why their weapons only work on other gems.

>>88994248

>Totally freaked out

"No gem, man. No gem at all. Just disappeared into thin air!"

>>88994807
>When we saw Prison Break, Steven could get through the cell, and resist their taser things.
those are specifically designed anti-Gem weapons. i am sure that, in their expanse, they have developed weapons more lethal against organic beings.

>>88994845
Aren't their gem weapons already lethal enough for this?

>>88994976
Most are. Not the disruptors, though.

>>88993661

They'd put up a fight but honestly Gems would lose purely on basis of defensive and security failures.

>Crystal Gems team up with military
>Consolidate captured Homeworld tech and ships
>Spraypoint a bunch of commandos rainbows and shit
>Have Sapphire lead them to key installations
>Bullshit her way through it "Lol I'm a Sapphire these are my guards, I'm on a special Diamond mission, top secret, need-to-know, away with ye"
>Set bombs and nukes and shit
>Gtfo

I've gotten autistic af over how insecure their society is. I'm thinking a human interstellar empire would have a dozen fucking layers of security to go through just to let your ship get within sight of an installation like the Zoo.

>>88995255
I guess when you become so unstoppable you let your guard down eh?

Almost makes me wish we had an SU RTS or TBS like XCOM.

>>88995255
Why are you involving the CGs in your autism train?

>>88993907
>Then again maybe no. In hand to hand combats, every part of the human body is a weak point while the gem only have one.
I would like to point out this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuluWPV3oL8

This is a teenage girl with most likely no combat experience taking down a strong gem monster and taking several hits. Then we also have Connie who is being trained to fight. I imagine that an actual soldier could easily go toe to toe with most of the foot soldiers in regards to how the show portrays humans.

>>88995657
>comparing the corrupted gems to foot soldier gems

>>88995761
There physical traits shouldn't be far off from what they where originally, the only difference would be there mental capabilities. Also, that clip shows the durability a human could have, one that isn't even a properly trained soldier.

>>8895825 kek was egypt

>>88995600

If we're going by a scenario that the CGs aren't present and it's purely Modern Human vs Gem, humanity would still be able to rek some shit.

I'd be very disappointed in humanity if, within a year or two of human-Gem contact, damn near every government on earth hadn't snatched some Gem tech on the sly, reverse-engineered it, and created an arsenal of anti-Gem weapons that could give them a run for their money.

>>88995845
Corrupted gems change both physically and mentally. The gem foot-soldiers would not only have better technique and utiliize their stength better, but also have weapons what would make them even more effective.

>>88996077
Wouldn't the Homeworld just drain the Earth's oceans and leave its inhabitants to die?

>>88996137
No, because you need water for Quartz formation

>>88996083
Sorry I guess I should have specified. The physical makeup of their body doesn't change much. Gems are shown to be succeptible to stabs and slashes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4al9Oa0jhI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FW5IV2EmKQ
>The gem foot-soldiers would not only have better technique and utiliize their stength better
As would a human trained soldier would compared to a teenage girl.
>but also have weapons what would make them even more effective.
With that statement we move away from hand-to-hand combat and just combat in general, in which case I point out guns which no Gem has been shown to use.

>>88996137

Because by the time Gems realize that the insignificant population of talking animals known as humanity has the capability of going toe-to-toe with them, we'd have already:

>Developed a Corruption Song of our own and nuked the earth with it
>Sent up drones to nuke whatever unholy abomination a corrupted Diamond looks like
>Prepped teams of commandos to clear out and capture key Gem installations

>>88996335
If we're talking hand-to-hand combat, keep in mind that different gem types have objectively different levels of strength. A quartz is objectively stronger than some other gem like a pearl, and the invisible monster was certainly not a quartz.

>>88996326
Making quartzes wouldn't be on their mind then.
>>88996481
Tech wouldn't save humanity from dying of thirst and drastic climate changes. Besides what if they drain the oceans from the get go?

>>88996680

>what if they drain the oceans from the get go?

Why would they? It's not like some organic race would cause them trouble.

>>88996583
Yes but the monster itself was no pushover, seeing as how it sent a 100+ pound girl flying. Besides strength isn't everything when it comes to a fight. Once again I would like to point out the durability on non-combatant humans. Greg was punched full force by Steven's retard strength and was fine all things considered.

>>88996137
>>88996680
My memory is foggy, How would Homeworld drain the oceans anyways? The only thing that comes to mind is Lapis.

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Does Steven Universe take place in modern times? Steven has a Tube Television & Plays Gamecube games. That same tV got destroyed, & they just replaced it with another CRT.

>>88996846
>My memory is foggy, How would Homeworld drain the oceans anyways? The only thing that comes to mind is Lapis.
You've answered your own question.
>>88996782
They might though, it's been said earlier in this thread.

>>88996890
>Does Steven Universe take place in modern times?
Yes. Steven has a smartphone.

>>88996947

So Steven is just poor then? Doesn't Greg buy him anything modern?

>>88996890
Steven has a smartphone.

>>88996890
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj2PbMzwBpM

Coordinated Airstrikes could deal with lone figures. It took Lapis a long time to make that pillar.

>>88997000
Meant to to quote
>>88996919

>>88996967
Well, the tvs keep getting destroyed so it's clearly not worth it.

>>88958250
lord kek was egyptian, pleb

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>>88996890

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Any info from sucrose about that happened to Russia in steven's earth? Last I checked there's a huge hole there.

>>88997158

Oh, that had nothing to do with Gems, it was just Russian shenanigans.

>>88997041
A cracked Lapis made the pillar in a single night. Healthy Lapis would be quick enough that the humans wouldn't be able to smarten up to what actually happened. Besides I doubt the missiles could reach Lapis since she would be in the outer atmosphere and could easily dodge the airstrike.

>>88996967
How old are you?

>>88997219
>A cracked Lapis made the pillar in a single night.
With no observation from any humans as there isn't a military force that we know of. You can bet actual monitoring systems would pick that up in an instant. And her pillar didn't reach that far as Steven could still breath.

And as for dodging, the fastest speed we've seen Lapis fly was as fast as Andy's retro plane, how would she stack up to a fighter jet?

>>88997440

Hell, forget the jet, she'd have to dodge a projectile going too fast to hear or see before it plows into her gem.

>>88997513
Exactly. I'd also like to point out that this is all under the assumption that they even use Lapis's for this function. There's a good chance they don't even use Lapis for war.

>>88997513
Lapis is a comparatively small, non-stationary target. It would be like trying to use ICBMs to shoot down birds.

>>88958923
I don't think the gems see them as anything more than animals to even consider using them for war

>>88962419
It could have begun with PD's shattering?

>>88962600
What would be nice

>>88956973
you forget the Hindus valley. india pre poo in loo migrations

>>88957105
china I think comes a little later than those two

the cradle of civilizations (guys who mastered agriculture on their own) come in this order chronologically iirc

egypt -> india -> mesopotamia -> china -> andes -> mexico -> west africa

egypt being 4000 BC and west africa being somewhere between 1000 BC and 500 AC

>>88957494
yes well, humans tend to do human things. There's semi realistic art with proper depth going as far back as 15000 years.

Societies always existed - it's an inevitable side effect of being thinking beings. But it wasn't able to actually grow beyond very small groups constrained by the need to survive until agriculture became developed enough to create cities.

>>88958585
Ur was the first "successful" city in the sense that it created a nation-state with internal organisation and had some form of cultural continuity.

Agriculture is the main requirement for a city, and evidence show that humans only truly mastered it somewhere around 5000 BC. There were earlier cities thorough between the early days of agriculture (more than 10000 years ago) and that period, but they crumbled as soon as their crops failed and their culture essentially goes extinct.

that city is a very interesting example detailing how civilization can come to be.

>>88981905
>Until now the planet has largely been too cold to make agriculture reliable, but now it's easy

What? Too cold, 10000 years ago? Please elaborate

>>88993020
you are not really dissagreeing with the screencaps though.

>>88996890
>Steven has a Tube Television & Plays Gamecube games. That same tV got destroyed, & they just replaced it with another CRT
he's obviously a melee tourneyfag

>>88994825

>"They're made out of meat, man!"
>"What? Meat? No, that can't be right."
>"I'm serious. I hit one and it popped open, right? There was no gem! Just meat!"
>"But they built all these structures, and have primitive ballistic weaponry. Meat doesn't build things."
>"Just ask Chrysophase, she cut one in half."
>"Yup. They're totally meat, dude. All the way through."
>"Well, fuck me. This planet is weird."

>>88963170
Don't worry, I laughed at it, anon.

>>88978895
I really dont like any of the songs to be honest.

>>88966045
The problem with this is that until 4000 BC human history was essentially stagnant, almost nothing changed between the Holocene until then. someone starts a settlement, it grows until agriculture fails, then disperses.

Further we have no way to know when the first settlements really started. could be several thousand years earlier than the proposed date.

>>88994248
kek

>>88993907
gem light bodies seem to be weak to pointy sticks. gems lose control of themselves when cracked.

A human band crazy enough to march through gem laser supertech and fight hand to hand would probably carry a javelin on one hand and a hammer to crack the gem when it poofs. Shields are arguably optional because lol lasers

like the other anon said they big deal with gems is that their high tier tech can simply destroy earth and is only skipped because they want earth for it's resources.

>>88994012
yeah, but this can be explained by saying that gems fought hand to hand because their actual good weaponry can destroy the world and the precious resources they need.

furthermore, orbital bombing, common ballistics and hand to hand combat are arguably equally effective when trying to crack a gem, so going hand to hand and being able to easily crack the gem and confirm the soldier is dead would be the best solution.

>>88966884

What if White Diamond IS Black Diama?

The word "White" has never been used in relation to the Diamonds, and it makes more sense that the villain is black

>>88998158
>"They're made out of meat, man!"
You
I like you

>>88998158
How would a Gem react to accidentally seeing two humans fucking?

>>88999647
Depends on a gem.

>>88977731
>>88977619

The main problem here is that whoever made this equates leftism with identity politics.

It's not the case, as many white nationalists will tell you.

Also, yes, characters are portrayed as flawed or good regardless of gender. That's what gender neutral writing (aka the aim of "sjw" storytellers) desire the most.

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>>88957105
>>88957345
>>88971343

Most American/European study of "world civilization" focuses on European civilization, which pretty much came from Roman civilization, which pretty much came from Greek Civilization, which pretty much came from the Egyptians/Persian/Sumerian and other Near Eastern civilizations.

And even then, we often come away with a pretty sketchy understanding; where Caesar/Homer/Ramses/Xerxes lived side by side, until Jesus came along and founded Christianity, that was followed by knights and castles and crusades in Europe until Christopher Columbus and the other guys discovered America, thus paving the way for Pilgrims and eventually the American Revolution.

>>89000392
man, we lost a fuckload of human knowledge when the Library of Alexandria got destroyed, right?

>>89000392
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turin_Erotic_Papyrus
>Not conforming to the convention of bodily perfection in ancient Egyptian art, the men depicted on the papyrus are "scruffy, balding, short, and paunchy" with exaggeratedly large genitalia.[5] In contrast, the women are nubile and appear with canonical erotic images of convolvulus leaves, Hathoric imagery, lotus flowers, monkeys and sistra.

Literally ancient hentai.

>>88956874
How does killing the diamonds give them the win?

Its a fucking empire if the diamond die their second in commands will assume control and continue their shit, the only way for the CGs to win is to kill every single HW gem.

>>89000473
actually current theory is that a lot of it had duplicates and the amount of knowledge lost isn't as big as hollywood or the internet has made it out to be

>>89001606
>How does killing the diamonds give them the win? Its a fucking empire if the diamond die their second in commands will assume control and continue their shit, the only way for the CGs to win is to kill every single HW gem.

Because...

1) That's how it works in fiction. Defeat the evil king/emperor/president/dictator in honorable combat, getting them to off themselves, or through some means of self-sacrifice and you win.

2) HW Gems aren't hive minds, but they conform to a ridiculously strict caste based society with little concept of freedom or personal initiative relative to people. It's unlikely that without the leadership a Diamond, they would be nearly as effective and/or united a front.

3) After centuries of fighting, shattering Pink Diamond, the youngest and weakest gem was enough to make HW fuck off from Earth for several thousand years. Shatter one or two more older and more capable diamonds and you can very well convince HW that fucking with Earth just isn't worth it and they'll really leave for good.