Times when the critics were objectively WRONG.

That movie is nothing special. Let go of your dick for a second and look past Chel to see the mediocrity.

>>88950449
Batman v Superman
27% positive was way higher than it should have been.

>>88950612
You know it was never my thing but i think people gave it way more shit than it deserved

>taste is objective

>>88950634
Agreed

MoS

It's not perfect but as far as capeshit goes it's better than a 55%

BvS deserves all the shit it got.

>>88950553
Childhood is fapping to Chel

Adulthood is realizing that Tulio and Miguel and their relationship are what made El Dorado good.

>>88950678
Not /co/ but what the fuck? How can critics be this wrong?

>>88950612
Literally just got done rewatching this film. Good shit.

>>88950553
That movie also wasn't 48% though.

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>>88950449
It's important to note when it came out. In 2000 we were just coming out of the Disney Renaissance and the bias at the time was strong. Ironically it was Shrek that first got critics to take Dreamworks seriously.

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>>88950449
>Shrek cost 35 million dollars less than this and made 400 million dollars more

well crafted, fluid 2d animation was a mistake

A shame nobody posted Ghostbusters yet

>>88951022

Shrek was novelty at the time.

>>88950449
BvS deserved 80%+ at the very least.

>>88950449
Every marvel movie

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>>88951132
Nice joke m80

>>88950610
I wonder how low WW will be

I'm sticking with 40% max

>>88951186
You can't give WW a bad review without coming off as an anti-feminist. It'll get a 78%

Civil War

Just as convoluted and shitty as BvS was yet was loved by critics because it had quips.

>>88951234
Around that, yeah.
Ghostbusters got 72%

>>88950678
What the fuck? Jin-Roh is amazing I didn't expect critics to love it but I always assumed it got a solid 80 this is fucking retarded.

>>88951167
You're right. 90%+. Thanks for reminding me of that great scene.

>>88950716
exactly, it's the best bromance in animated feature films.

>>88950678
Bet the complaints are something on the line of
>Waaaaa why they don't show more of the cool looking armor nazi

>>88950678
That's really surprising actually. If anything I would have though it would be in the 70 range purely because of it's great animation

>>88950678
>Jin-Roh is 55%
>Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy is 83% while having the same style & pacing

rotten tomatoes reconfirmed for cancer

>>88950612
It took me a second watching for me to really appreciate this movie.

>>88950678
Christ, I bet the reviewers were angry the movie was mostly talking and no action until the very end.

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>>88950449
At least this ended up bombing so hard it essentially killed off the future franchise they had planned and the title was changed when it was released on DVD.

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>>88950449

>>88953008
What was the new title?

>>88953100
Ghostbusters: Answer the Call instead of just being called Ghostbusters.

>>88951186
>>88951234
You never know anons, the world is doing a serious heel turn after the election. We might see a world where sense are restored and something is just measured by how good/bad it is.

>>88950449
This make me angry

>>88950449
I fucking loved the adventure game based on that movie as a kid. I had never seen the film itself though.

>>88953193
>heel turn
>sense are restored
a heel is a villain you dumb dumb

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>>88950449
>Predictable story and thin characters made the movie flat.
>thin characters
That is not how I would describe Chel.

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>>88953243
He's using it right anon. "Heel turn" implies the side spoken of is now the villain by the viewers eyes. Anon is saying the radical liberal side is being seen more as a villain by onlookers which is true.

>>88953413
if the world is doing a heel turn then the world is becoming a villain
all of the world

>>88953436
That I can't explain.I just interpreted the post to mean the majority view in media was suffering a "heel turn"

>>88953193
If the past two months are any indication we're looking at even more insanity and politicization of everything

>>88953471
Same happen back in the 90s when conservatives were going unhinged about PC, gays and immigration and we all saw how that turn out. Trust me this crazy is going to burn out most and we will see a small window of balance before it dives to the radical conservative end for a decade or two. That's been American history for the last two centuries.

>>88951162
This. Best post of the new year.

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Television show critics are some of the worst, most tasteless idiots in existence.

Not /co/, but
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/dexter/s08/

>>88953008
Let's be honest here, the reviews were pretty much given out of pity instead of actual goodness.

>>88953862
I think it's more because if they let themselves think an obviously gimmicky movie starring 4 women was bad it would go against everything they believe.

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Read 'em and Weep, boys!

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still one of the best dreamworks movies

>>88950449
Speed Racer.

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>>88954004

>>88954325
6.1/10 ain't too bad.

I just hate Rotten Tomatoes in general cause it does this stupid thing where it has you focus on the % of reviews that gave it a 'fresh' rating,
Instead of just saying '_/10' or '_/5' like ANY OTHER SITE.
So you end up seeing that 25% or 55% and assume that it is 5.5/10.

>>88951018
Bias against animation in general. Disney had a long history but even they weren't immune.

Critics have really softened on animation. Stuff that gets a pass now would have been considered beneath contempt 10-20 years ago.

>>88954004
I honestly hated this movie.

>>88954004
This is probably the only film to ever exist where the critical reception is right and the audience reception is wrong.

>>88954647
the target audience is unenlightened 14-16 year olds

>>88950998
Maybe 52% of people just don't like Elton John

>>88950612
Me and my brother always loved this movie.

>>88953600
a better more up to date example would be the negative reviews to the upcoming Hardy show Tabbo which actually made me want to see it.

>>88954902
have you watched the original cartoon? its cool

>>88954325
Yeah, I'd give that movie a solid 6.

>>88950612

Fucking this. America finally gets an anime right and it bombs in the box office and is a critical failure.

>>88950678
What the hell man? The movie is pure kino.

>>88952972
>>88951408
I watched like the first 5 or 10 minutes of the movie before I got called away. I have no idea what the movie is about and even less now that I've read your two posts. Can you give me some context for what I'm in for if I ever watch it again?

>>88953193
It's more likely there will be thousands of trolls giving it terrible ratings because SJW. They probably wont even see the film.

It's all identity politics now.

>>88951022
desu whoever helped in creating the hideous fucking design that is shrek should be lined up and shot

>>88955132
The anime hasn't aged well at all.

>>88955743
It's a great movie that's mostly a slow burn political thriller and character drama. You don't really see the armored guys in action until the very end but it's pretty cool when it does finally happen. If you don't have the patience for that kind of movie you might not like it but I thought it was pretty fantastic.

>>88955876
That will probably help me enjoy it, thanks.

>>88950449
t. thiccfag

>>88955898
I can't speak for the rest of the body but liking baby bearing hips is simply called heterosexuality.

>>88955876
>You don't really see the armored guys in action until the very end
Isn't the iconic sewer scene is in the first 20 minutes of the film?

>>88955524

This

I'm worried about Ghost in the Shell

The trailers look decent but I'm worried

>>88953080

No critics got this one correctly

>>88955926
There's that too, it's just a lot shorter and more of a taste.

>>88954450
Hello, fellow /vp/oreon

>>88955947
As a huge fan of GitS, I'm sad because of this movie. It won't do well with American audiences and will bomb hard. Even based Scalet Johansson can't save it, and normies will be finding it too "weird" and "hard to understand." It's going to fail, hard.

>>88950449
>thin characters
This movie has quite a few flaws, but what exactly did they need to be more fleshed out? Tragic backstories? Should they have shown their dead parents and childhood leading up to that point? Have more wholesome motivations?
Miguel, Tulio, and Chel were about as flat as most other animated movie characters.

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I will never stop being upset about this. It's a 60% at most.

>>88956260
I feel the same way about Jessica Jones

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>>88950612
I wonder whos beind this?

>>88954325
Nah, that seems about right. Generous even.

The sequels, on the other hand, were a lot better.

>>88956315
Because muh feminism probably. Although it's more interesting than Daredevil.

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>>88957611

eyup, third one was best, unfortunately 4th one is coming

>>88954325
Decent, but it's one of the rare films for me were I prefer the 2nd (and probably the 3rd) movie better.

>>88955804
>An ogre.
>Looking hideous.

Anon...

>>88955804
>>88957867

wasnt he based on some wrestler? the point of Shrek was to make fun of all the disney tropes, MC is ugly as sin, saves the girl who expected prince charming, and then SHE turns into an ogre permanently parodying Beauty and the Beast.

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>>88950449
I bet most you guys haven't even heard of this one, let alone have seen it.

>>88957682
>Although it's more interesting than Daredevil.
I disagree, and I didn't like Daredevil all that much.

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>>88950449
>Getting upset about the opinions of others
>Believing that aggregate review score sites are important
>Believing that your opinions are facts and art critique can be objective

Can't you just enjoy a movie and not be a giant autist about it?

>>88956260
People just wanted a decent Star Wars movie, better than the prequels. They got it. The fact that it is a carbon copy of ANH isn't apparent to a movie goer who is watching it for the first time. The utter lack of originality only seeps in later.

>>88958544
The utter lack of originality in the beats of the movie was apparent at the time, but the new characters were charismatic and enjoyable to watch. The Star Wars franchise has been such a shit show for decades now that playing it safe was precisely what they needed to do. Something simple that they wouldn't fuck up and reminded you of why Star Wars was likable in the first place.

It's the next movie that needs to do something new and not play it safe. They wiped the slate clean, undid decades of shit and proved that they can make a competent Star Wars movie. But now its time to build on that, if Episode 8 is just a rehash then that's the point where it becomes a problem.

>>88958686
>but the new characters were charismatic and enjoyable to watch
No. They were as boring as watching paint dry.
A whiny manchild Darth Vader wannabe was the only one who somehow stood out, and I hated him. (inb4 hurr it's okay he was supposed to be a shitty villain, that makes him not a shitty villain)

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This is a really fun movie. If this came out after Deadpool maybe it would have gotten better reviews.

>>88958686
>but the new characters were charismatic and enjoyable to watch
I hope you're not talking about Rey.

>>88958478
Where do you think you are.jpg

>>88958766
Well you're entirely welcome to disagree. For me the only missteps with the new cast were Poe being sidelined to make room for Han Solo, though with him dead I imagine he will be a bigger element of the next movie, and Rey being able to perform a Jedi mind trick. I'm looking forward to seeing how they develop in Episode 8. Finn finding his footing outside of the First Order, Rey discovering the force and what happened with Luke's Jedi, Poe getting fleshed out more, and Kylo as someone who wants to be evil but feels tempted by the light side is a neat inversion.

>>88950553
Most if not every newcomer goes for Chel and stays for the bromance

Almost every modern horror movie that gets good reviews.
Goes to show how little critics think of the genre when mediocrity is applauded. As a horror fan I find it pretty insulting to be quite honest.

>>88958937
While they're not particularly complex they're a likable bunch with good performances and great onscreen chemistry that carry the momentum of the film pretty much perfectly. To be completely honest the majority of the criticism of the new characters is ultimately rooted in alt-right mentality of muh feminists, muh dindus, muh spics. The most genuine criticism of them is really the lack of complexity, but to that point I'd just remind people that they're watching a Star Wars space adventure movie, not Schindler's List.

>>88950449
>movie about two white guys destroying the civilization
>literally white savior trope
>getting good reviews

you don't know how this site works, do you?

>>88954515
That's because RT just collects the reviews. It's not saying that a movie is 55% Fresh. It's saying that 55% of the critics reviewed it positively.

>>88959322
Which is a much more practical metric than "Oh shit this movie is an 8.8/10 while this other movie is only an 8.2/10! I can really see the 0.6 point difference in the quality of the films, it's such a meaningful and measurable thing!".

"Did critics and audiences generally like or dislike the movie?" is a billion times more meaningful.

>>88958544
I don't know, it really stuck to me the first time I watched it that its most memorable part was getting to watch the opening crawl in theaters again.

>>88959276
So Rey being over emotive and seeming to have confusing directions from the director is muh feminism?

>>88959427
It can be misleading though. I can't remember which movie exactly, but I saw an example recently which had an RT score of 87%, but an average rating of something like 5.5

>>88958544
It really wasn't better than the prequels. Most things people cite are completely subjective.

>>88959498
It's not misleading if you understand what the number is, if you know that the number is just the percentage of positive reviews and not representative of how positive those reviews are then there's nothing to be confused about. It would only be misleading if you thought it was meant to be the average score, besides if an aggregate average is that important to you then you need only cast your eyes down about a centimetre.

>>88959276
I don't know much about feminism but I just don't like the idea of the MC being played by a bad actor. I mean the Force is pretty much an asspull machine so I can overlook that part. Finn was a bit annoying at the start but he got better and grew on me at the end. Poe was fine but he got little screentime.
Kylo was weird. I don't understand if making him a cringey ragebaby was intentional or not. I don't mind him as a villain but was this really what they wanted the second Darth Vader to be? A guy whose main character trait is teen angst? It's kinda hard to take him seriously as the main villain of the trilogy. Don't give me that "just wait till the next movies, they'll fix everything", a movie needs to be able to stand on it's own and not be just a preview for the sequel.

>>88959976
>a movie needs to be able to stand on it's own and not be just a preview for the sequel.
I am kinda sympathetic to this viewpoint, but I do also feel that people need to become more comfortable with the idea of episodic story telling in theatrical releases as it is becoming more common and there's nothing fundamentally wrong with it. Films don't have to be limited to being self contained, people can use the medium in different ways.

>>88959276
>To be completely honest the majority of the criticism of the new characters is ultimately rooted in alt-right mentality of muh feminists, muh dindus, muh spics.
I'm a spic and I found the main cast forgettable and bland as shit, too. It's a step-down from the prequels even, which had Gregor, Neeson, McDiarmid, Jackson, Lee... all who had enough charisma to be remembered despite the shitty parts assigned to them into an even bigger shitpile that was the prequel trilogy.

>>88960084
Don't you know? Making villains cringeworthy manchildren is how you make them "deep".

Shoot me, because I hate this kind of villain and given the positive reception they get this trend is not going anywhere soon.

>>88960343
Misclicked. Reply to >>88959976

>>88953080
The average score is 4.9/10 which, if anything, is too high. The 27% is how many critics would recommend the film. This is again too high because I have met nobody, out of the 20 or so people know who have seen the film, that would recommend it.

>>88951234
>>88951273
No. Ghostbusters was a perfect storm that was egged on by marketers (that actually helped destroy the BO potential). Plenty of female led action films have done poorly with critics, for example Terminator Genisys or have not attracted the slavish devotion exhibited by some of the Ghostbusters defenders, like Salt and Lucy.

WW is a film made by a director who has made 1 relevant film a decade ago, has been described as dark, light, funny, gritty and as a "coming of age" story (for a 5000 year old character), stars an actress who can't act and can barely speak English also, it is part of a cinematic universe where Man of Steel is the critical darling.

>>88960343
Could've been better if he acted less whiney and they had given us some fragment of a reason to his rage other than "dark side lol". Not saying that they should reveal everything but gives us something to follow along and instead of leaving us thinking "what the fuck is this kid".
Maybe he'll get some good development and have a good backstory in the sequels that makes sense that makes everything worth. Oh who am I kidding. Why do I expect so much from Hollywood.

>>88958927
That movie was an incredible ride.
Fuck those fuck fuckers.

>>88960928

*Why do I expect so much from Disney.

ftfy

>>88958544
>The fact that it is a carbon copy of ANH isn't apparent to a movie goer who is watching it for the first time
I'm not a big SW fan and didn't watch it when I was a kid. I watched it months before TFA got released so I immediately saw the similarities.

>>88950612
I watched this movie for the first time in HBO and i loved it

it surprised me to find out only i have loved it :(

>>88958766
Eh I liked Kylo Ren and Poe. I initially liked Rei when she was introduced (looking for junk and scraps, alone in the dessert, etc), but then she suddenly knew a lot of things very conveniently and that didn't sit well with me.

>>88961727
Nah. It's not an issue with just Disney.

>>88961958
This. Hollywood was correct.

>>88953008
The male assistant was the funniest character in the movie real talk.

But Ghostbusters OG wasnt even that good a movie.

>>88950716
>Childhood is fapping to Chel
>Adulthood is realizing that Tulio and Miguel and their relationship are what made El Dorado good.

And then fapping to them too because both is good.

>>88954004
This is too high.

>>88955763
Or that 72% of the critics who actually have a stake in their jobs reviewing films will be cucked into giving the film a positive review or suffer the cries of "sexist feminist man-baby pig" by Twitter legbeards who have nothing better to do than shame those they don't agree with.

Hell, even if they make a choice to NOT see the film, they'll get heaves of mouth-breathing feminazis who cry "patriarchy" and the so-called journalists who cry about fake news getting Trump elected.

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>>88950449
all the top critics liked it tho

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>>88955804
His design was based on the original children's book, you ignorant underage.

>>88959498
I think that was new Ghostbusters.

>>88958766
>>88961890
Kylo would have been so much better if they never had him take off the mask. Leave in his angst and doubt over being as much a badass as his grandfather. Keeping his appearance a mystery would just make all those other things seem more intriguing.

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>>88951022
https://moviepilot.com/p/prince-of-egypt-animators-sent-to-work-on-shrek-as-punishment/4146221

>>88950449
You used "objectively" wrong.

>>88958544

>future Jedi lives in a barren desert planet
>has a relatively shitty/boring life
>the future Jedi is pulled into the main conflict because of a droid(s)
>leave the planet on the millennium falcon
>fight against the empire which has a massive planet shaped ship that can destroy planets
>bad side demonstrates the power of the weapon by using it
>rag tag group of heros band together to destroy the weapon
>good side wins

Also the fact that they replaced R2 with BB-8 and that Phasma was Boba Fett and that they split Yoda into Maz Kanata and Luke Skywalker. Not everything pulled from the New Hope but what they didn't pull from a New Hope they pulled from other movies. It was uninteresting and boring. Lucas gets criticized for the prequels and while the dialogue was shit the set design was gorgeous and captured the imagination. He used so much CGI because it was new and was the only thing that could bring his vision to life without costing hundreds millions. The budget for episode 7 was 306 million which is a little under triple the cost of any prequel movie and for what. We saw like 3 planets that I remembers, the sets were boring and unexplored, and there didn't seem to be more characters than any previous start wars film so why the hell was the budget triple the fucking cost. They wanted to use practical effects even though technology is at the point where they shouldn't really have to. It was just such a boring and uninteresting movies, sure the dialogue and acting were better but the entire thing was one big "fan service" because star wars fans are the fucking worst and complain so much they finally got what they wanted a complete carbon fucking copy of the original trilogy.

>>88965106
>306 million
How the fuck are not-Tatooine, new Death Star and the Milennium Falcon so expensive?

I guess that most of the money went to bringing Ford back.

>>88953513
> in the 90s when conservatives were going unhinged about PC, gays and immigration and we all saw how that turn out
they were proven right?

>>88953161
"Answer the Call"
Even the subtitle sounds like bitches nagging

>>88950612
Dish network used to have this PPV thing were you could watch the first 5 minutes of a film. I remember checking it out when it first hit PPV and thinking that it seemed awful.
I finally watched it years later and realized it's actually a really great movie.
Also the theme song remix isn't bad.

>>88950449
Always.
Also you faggots have no idea how RT works.
It means 52 percent of reviews gave a bad score. Not that its 48 out of 100

>>88954004
I don't see what's wrong here. Only that a great deal of people like shit movies.

>>88950612
I went to this with my family. I loved it. They looked at me like I had AIDS.

>>88965196
>most of the money went to bringing Ford back.
pretty sure most of the money was embezzled by the usual hollywood suspects, but whatever you think.

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>>88965931
Now THIS

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>>88965931
Now they fucked up.

>>88958927
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>>88950449
What about the times critics are wrong and so are the general public?

>>88962336
>The male assistant was the funniest character in the movie real talk
Really? I keep hearing this but I thought he was one of the more unfunny characters in an unfunny movie. His stupidity just got really grating the more it went on and was never really amusing. Janine Melnitz had less screentime but managed to be both a funnier character and have funnier jokes.
>But Ghostbusters OG wasnt even that good a movie.
You shut your whore mouth, Ghostbusters was a great movie and became iconic for a reason. The characters were great with some of the best actor synergy in a series, the moments were incredibly memorable to the point they became entrenched in popular culture, and the jokes were very well-written with great delivery.

>>88967625
The movie was fine. I understand what people say about the story/writing lacking of sorts didn't really feel the same but I'd say it made up for in what I found great music and visuals.
If to even it out I'd it's a 70 to 80

>>88950612
It was also one of the few movies that had a good game along with it.

>>88950449
How in god's name is it rated that low? It's such a great buddy adventure film. I really wanted a sequel.

Also, Cortes had like 3 minutes of screen time, but somehow managed to be intimidating as hell.
>My men were chosen as carefully as the disciples of Christ

>>88950612
>>88956196
But that's good, why would you want Hollywood to get more into anime and ruin it? Next thing we know anime is full of SJW trash

>>88950612
Had a pretty great song as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EChZbd0HeGw
but that might just be my opinion

>>88950678
Right on the money
>WOLVES
>WOLF SYMBOLISM
>WOLVES
>WOLVES
>DID WE MENTION WOLVES
>THIS MOVIE HAS A THEME RUNNING THROUGH IT
>WOLVES

>>88955524
Maybe that's because Anima is shit

>>88967750
More like a 20 if we are being generous. The only thing this movie had was the great stopmotion, there was no redeeming quality to the writing, awful characters, unfunny jokes, horrible pacing to an uninteresting plot, carried by a beyond predictable twist they couldn't even make worthwhile, and, of course, an unsatisfying ending with a hamfisted moral of the story.

>>88956260
Everyone hates the prequels, but at least the memes were memorable, even if Lucas never intended it. I had more entertainment with prequel Palpatine than I had with any of the characters in Awakens. Awakens is just so derivative, and I can't believe people don't see how similar it is to A New Hope. Which is why I couldn't get into it. At least Annie made me laugh.

>>88965931
I can understand the critics not liking this movie since it's more of an acquired taste and requires multiple viewings to truly be appreciated.

>>88968027
I'll agree with the ending but I disagree with everything else. Was a little disappointed when the Kubo's grandfather just turned into a human.

>>88950612
Speed Racer was the Sin City of children's movies.

>>88965931
The majority of Kung Pow isn't great. It's just that the good bits are REALLY good.

>>88957787
That french hunter lady is one of my favorite villains.
Competent as fuck, ruthless, no boring backstory or shit like that.
Pretty funny also how the lion is being chased
From a scale from 0 to lord shen i give her a 8/10

>>88965931
my nipples look like milk duds

>>88967873
This sounds like something straight out of the early 2000's, I love it.

>>88950449
It was a bromance at its finest, so i guess chicks hated it?

>>88956315
Jessica Jones started strong, then suddenly became directionless and pumped with "muh strong women" in the second half. They would establish something, then randomly ignore it or give a flaccid conclusion.

>>88962336
Ghostbusters is the prime example of how to do dry humor correctly.

>>88962552
>top
>critics

>>88950553
>Chel

I completely forgot that character existed.

>>88960277
>Jacksons performance in the prequels
>Good

Opinion discarded

>>88967656
>You shut your whore mouth

Kek, I knew someone was gonna say this.

>>88950612
First saw this on a flight to Japan in late 2008. First thing I did when I got back was grab a 1080p rip. Like, soon as I walked in the door jetlagged as fuck first thing.

>>88956260
It's a good movie though not a 90 and the only reason it's good is that it's so fucking safe and focus grouped to blandsville. Star Wars deserves better. At least the prequels tried being original and honestly the lore we got from them is the best part of the franchise. I'd love an actual well executed spin off movie set during the Clone Wars. It'd be better than rehashing New Hope.

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>>88965931
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGp9P6QvMjY

>>88958017
>audience rating lower than critical rating
wow

>>88973709
>It's a good movie though not a 90
The tomatometer is just the percentage of critics who thought it was good. It's different from the average rating, which in this case is 8.2/10.

>honestly the lore we got from the prequels is the best part of the franchise
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>88974275
It is though. I'm not talking about the retarded explanation of the force shit. I'm talking about the Clone Wars.

>>88965931
they aren't wrong. It's a fucking awful film that's only fun because you get together with anonymous retards and shitpost in streams about all the memes we get from it.

Don't get me wrong, I fucking love it, but when people say it's a bad film they're absolutely spot on.

Speaking of which, you know the rules.

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>>88954325
This isn't one they got wrong though

>>88958544
>People just wanted better than the prequels
I never understood this. The most normalfag people I'm around all like the prequels fine, and my dad who was around for the first film seems to enjoyed them. I live in the Midwest so I'm not sure if this is a coastal thing.

>>88951074
It was okay.

>>88967873
Beautiful movie. Great casting. Great cinematography. Just all around a great movie. And it's generic in all the right ways.

>>88975506
>most normalfag people I'm around all like the prequels fine
Of course they do. They don't think about the writing or direction, they're just there to see space wizards and explosions.

>>88975412
>and viola
At what point of your google search did you bow instrument turn purple?

>>88950612
Literally fun the movie

>>88953008
So it got Edge of Tomorrow'd?

>>88977070
Basically, yeah.

>>88977070
That movie was fun as hell btw.

>>88967873
holy shit that was awful wtf

>>88950612
I remember my mom took my sister and I to see this because she had a huge crush on Speed Racer as a kid

>>88951022

SOMEBODY

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>>88950449
>>88950612
>>88950678

>>88967625

That would be Spirited Away. It was the very definition of 2deep4u.

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>>88978851
>Spirited Away
>2deep4u
???

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It was good. I don't get the hate.

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>>88950612
Best Wachowski film, period. Matrix be damned, that ending rush is enough to give a pallet of brick a heart attack.

>>88977410
I thought it was ok for an action popcorn flick. It definitely ended up being more enjoyable than what I thought it was going to be since from the trailer I thought it would just be another generic action movie from Tom Cruise.

>>88979205
For Sure. If the Siblings ever get back into the game I feel they are the only ones that could do Wacky Races justice.

Does it have a Blu Ray release.

>>88967943
Maybe at a surface level, but that was mostly just visuals over a political plot.

>>88957787
Eh we've got all hail King Julian which is fine.

>>88979276
Would the Wachowskis do a good adaptation of Ranma?

>>88956260

THIS RIGHT FUCKING HERE.

>>88953080
>cropped out the audience score because it matches the critical reception

You guys are literally the /pol/tards of super hero movies.

>>88958686
I agree with this. Return to form this movie, something new the next, if eight is just a rehash of five, then I'll turn on this trilogy.

>>88954004
AIN'T NO MERCY

A-A-AIN'T NO MERCY

>>88954004
cue famous music from the 70's

>>88959427
Plus a lot of reviewers don't give a rating

>>88967872
Californian here, can confirm that Hollywood is a parasitic cancer that even many of us wish was gone. Fucking SoCal shits. Wish they'd have their little cal-exit shitfit on their own and leave us to our statehood while they flounder and die without coherent policy.

>>88968064
>Everyone hates the prequels
It's like I'm really in 2005

>>88976597
>tips fedora

>>88981419
You need their taxes and economic activity.

Also the SJWs and feminists voted to save you from the massive deficit and recession the next tax cuts and deregulation of Wall Street will bring.

I know your ego will never allow you to even think that Clinton would have been a lot better, but there it is. You did your country a disservice.

Also Bloomberg would have jumped in if Sanders had been the nominee.

>>88953436

That's pretty accurate though, shit totally hit the fan on 2016

>>88976597
Jesus christ i studied film studies and you idiots who think the prequels are poorly filmed but think the OT are nasterfully filmed give me an aneurism.

RLM was the worst thing to happen to star wars.

>>88981898
Enlighten us, then.

>>88967872
I have never met a Californian who hates Hollywoo.
I feel so alone.
t. Californian

>>88981898
>RLM was the worst thing to happen to star wars.
It really, really was. They single handily ruined the fanbase.

>>88981613
I laugh at you for bringing up deficit while the current admin has us in the debt we are now.
I'll keep enjoying the most successful President Elect of all time while you never learn.

>>88981898

If you're talking about cinematography, visuals, set design, CGI, or anything not directly relating to the plot or acting you'rte spot on. The Prequels were well made, it's just that they were well made bad films

>>88981982
Baisically, by keeping the same cinematic techniques like the OT, lucas was trying to maintain cinematic consistency within the star wars universe. JJ kind of fucked that in the head though because he needs to have his fucking lense flares.

Yes the pt looks dated cinematically, but thats the point. It is directly tied to the ot. The shot reverse shot critiscism by RLM is the biggest load of horseshit ive ever seen in complaining about a film.

Are RLMs story complaints valid? Maybe, but stories are more subjective than film. The fact is, the pt's cinematography is perfectly adequate (heck actually amazing at some points)

>>88950612
The Grand Prix scene was pretty good and the scene where Racer X removes the mask. Also super comfy

>>88982259
Yeah, plot is always a little more subjective than production. The prequel's production is actually really incredible for thier budget.

>>88959976
>teen angst
>teen
He's almost 30 years old canonically.

>>88982308
>>88982259
Though the CGI has aged like fucking milk. At least in TFM.

>>88982140
It catalyzed the OT fags autism


The OT is undeniably great, but holy shit are some of those fans cancerous

>>88982333
Tbf, a lot of it looks pretty good imo. Yoda looks fucking incredible, same with 90%of ROTS. Jar jar, as awful of a charactwr he is, still looks surprisingly effective.

Yeah ill agree some of it looks pretty shit, but there are strong points. And its 11 to 17 years old, so i give a good chunk of it a pass.

>>88965931
I am extremely bothered

>>88954325
The series and spinoffs as a whole were well done. They Shrekified it into a masterpiece

>>88982387
Yoda was made CG some time after. He was originally a puppet in TFM.

>>88982276
Yeah, everyone was blown away by the millennium falcon, but those home run zoom-ins were pretty stupid looking back.

>>88950449
According to RT, the second SpongeBob movie is better than the first.

>>88982481
sorry, i was thinking AOTC and ROTS for Yoda. Should have clarified.

>>88982482
Christ I hate those fucking zoom ins in movie now.

It basically telegraphs that the director can't actually frame their bloody shot, or they don't believe their audience can tell what the fuck they are supposed to look at.

>>88982481
That Yoda puppet in Episode I was atrocious.

They never did make Jabba look good in New Hope. Not that he belonged in that movie to begin with.

>>88968965
Disagree. The beginning was just as underwhelming as the rest of the show.

Whoever told me it's a good psychological thriller needs to get better taste.

>>88962336
They made hin retarded. Janine was never retarded.

>>88975096
You're a fucking idiot

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/lost_highway
Lynch's second best movie after Blue Velvet.

Mullholland Dr./Inland Empire/Eraserhead plebs need not apply.

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mediocre

>>88983975
True but not /co/ at all.

>>88983989

it's pixar, it's good.

>>88979082
It's a good film. Just one that some people just don't "get". I think it deserved more around a mid-7, maybe an 8.

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>>88954325
>Fish Mooney was the hippo in Madagascar

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>>88950612
They missed the opportunity of launching this on 3D. Shit would be trip as fuck. Also

>Christina Ricci in that movie

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>>88950678
>American critics
>anything anime

Same old shit. 13 paragraphs about "anime weirdness", 2 paragraphs about "nice animation" and one conclusion about "not for everyone, specially kids", giving it a average score.

EVERY.SINGLE.TIME

>>88951022
Shrek is the reason why CGI abomination movies exist.

>>88953080
Agreed.

It should be lower.

>>88954004
Of course audiences loved it, it's basically shallow millennial bullshit with no substance the movie. Its lasting legacy on pop culture is giving sluts a default Halloween 2016 costume.

>>88954004
I legitimately wanted my two hours back.

It's a poorly edited, poorly acted, poorly written clusterfuck and it was the final straw which dashed any hopes I had left of the DCEU making a film that wasn't complete shit.

>>88956260
It was an okay movie, and that alone was enough to send it skyrocketing into the hall of fame after the hellscape the prequels had left the franchise in.

>>88956260
It's a good film. The only thing wrong with it is that it drops too many of the same beats as A New Hope.

It's just not for us, it's for a younger generation that, believe it or not, have not seen ANH. Shit, my gf is only seven years younger than me, and she hadn't seen any of the SW films before this. And she's not even a turbonormie, she still moans about caster edition being dead ffs, this is just how things are now. Younger people can't be guaranteed to have seen any SW, even if they know a huge amount about them via its cultural enormity.

>>88986969
>poorly edited

That was the trailer company's fault not Ayer

>>88978851
If Spirited Away was in any way too deep for you you have to leave.

>>88983989
This. The movie was fairly cliche and bland for the most part, and there was never any real tension. I would give it a 6/10 at best.

>>88950449
every single ghibli movie ever.
like jesus fuck visually they are outstanding but in everything else they are just ok.

>>88987040
That doesn't make it any less of a shit film.

>>88986991
It fucked up the storyline going forward so it's not okay. It's worse than the prequels because it made people not care about what happens next. Why would they when the future ROTJ promised got fucked offscreen?

It was all hype and smoke and mirrors.

>>88973789
from where is that scene?

>>88987015
>It's a good film.
It's really not. The effects and acting are both subpar and only get a break because people are so obsessed with practical effects and. in their minds, it's not possible to be worse than Hayden Christensen. The story is full of holes (Who the hell is Snoke and where did he come from, how does the First Order have the resources to build a triple Planet Killer, Why is Finn the only Stormtrooper that can just one day stop being evil, How can Rey use force powers she has no idea about) and it's just a parade of cameo appearances and call backs to the Original Trilogy for the sake of reaping all the nostalgia it possibly can. Oh and for the record, just because a trilogy is promised doesn't mean you can just have huge parts of the story not be explained. Maybe Rey is an amnesiac Jedi disciple, more than likely she isn't, but that's not something you can just hint at and expect people to be okay with it.

There has never been a better example of a low effort cash grab move than TFA.

>>88951132
MARTHA
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>>88956260
>It's a 60% at most.
Yet another retard who has no idea how rotten tomatoes work.

Fucking retard.

>>88987236
>Leave in his angst and doubt over being as much a badass as his grandfather.

Still useless when his angst is hardly explained, and nothing they pull out of their ass will have it make sense. Where the fuck is Anakin's ghost? Did nobody teach him anything? Is he brain damaged?

Besides, what doubt? He may talk that shit but everything he did showed he was totally evil, just a bitch at the same time. That doesn't make him conflicted, just weak, and weak villains undermine the whole premise.

>>88982205
Trump supporters are detached from objective reality.

>>88953363
T H I C C

Isn't she a lttle too sexy for a kids movie? How did they get away with that

>>88987388
Because sexual innuendoes are easy to slip pass children who have never even seen the words, and only the worst soccer moms care in the first place.

>>88979082
It's (more or less), a exploitation movie. Of course critics with shit on it.

Don't get me wrong, it was fucking great, but critics usually give low scores if the movie is "too violent", "too sexy", "too pointless", and many other bullshit pseudo intellectual rantings

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>>88950678
Attitudes like this are why we're never going to have good animated shows/movies not targeted towards kids and teens.

>>88987194
>The effects and acting are both subpar

The effects are fine and the only dodgy acting is from Rey.

>The story is full of holes (Who the hell is Snoke

He's the leader of the First Order. You realize we had no idea who the Emperor or even Vader were in ANH, right?

>how does the First Order have the resources to build a triple Planet Killer

Not even remotely important to the plot. But there are so many easy explanations, like Imperial remnants and such.

>Why is Finn the only Stormtrooper that can just one day stop being evil

Why did some members of the wehrmacht desert while others didn't?

>How can Rey use force powers she has no idea about

You mean like how Anakin was using precognition while racing? The Force is mystic bullshit.

>just because a trilogy is promised doesn't mean you can just have huge parts of the story not be explained.

I guess you don't understand how stories work? Hinting at things you're going to cover later is pretty basic stuff. It's called mystery.

>There has never been a better example of a low effort cash grab move than TFA.

Aside from, like, 99% of all modern horror films.

>>88987120
A comedy show called "Whitest Kids U Know".

It's all on youtube right now. It's a pretty funny show.

>>88967943
Yeah I was bothered by that too. Japs really can't into subtlety

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>>88987194
Holy shit man

TFA was not great or anything, but that is some high level salty nitpicking there. Jesus Christ. Chill.

>>88987194
>everything that isn't explained is a plot hole

>>88982325
Makes it even more retarded

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I keep feeling like the manly reason that people decided to hate TFA now is because of Rey. The character got so much praised by small (but loud) groups of left wing, that now is cool to hate her and blame it on whatever scapegoat fits better (Tumblr, SJW, Feminism, etc)

tl ;dr - edge contrarians

>>88987684
>the only dodgy acting is from Rey.

Driver was cringeworthy, can't tell if he was deliberately so and it looped right back, or if he did it by accident. In any case, he should have died in a freak accident instead of Anton Yelchin.

Boyega and Isaac were nothing special besides bro-chemistry and the old people were phoning it in.

>You realize we had no idea who the Emperor or even Vader were in ANH, right?

We didn't need to since it was the original movie, but this is a sequel and that shit doesn't fly anymore.

>Why did some members of the wehrmacht desert while others didn't?

They weren't raised to worship the Empire since birth.

>You mean like how Anakin was using precognition while racing?

Mind tricks with voice commands are on a whole new level. Also, ripped off from Dune.

>>88987962
Wasn't there some post or whatever comparing Rey to Anakin, and how Anakin has way more inexplicable powers and skills than Rey, but somehow Rey being a girl suddenly makes it not okay? I know I've seen at least one post like that somewhere.

>>88983847
He was meant to be a sex object, Janine was never a sex object either.

>>88987973
>In any case, he should have died in a freak accident instead of Anton Yelchin.
Woah, what a fucking edgy thing to say.

>>88988013
An edgy death for an edgy person.

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>>88987993
It's funny because the consensus about TFA is that it's basically A New Hope all over again. But when it comes to Rey, people just lose their shit.

Both follow the hero's journey. Nothing new here, folks. Stop pretending she RUINED EVERYTHING

>>88988013
I just want to see the new fans cry. Didn't cry for Fisher after she signed up for this.

>>88981467
>People don't hate the prequels
What

>>88968064
>and I can't believe people don't see how similar it is to A New Hope.
That's literally what everyone brings up

How disconnected are you two from reality

>>88987962
The problem is that no one can think a movie is mediocre anymore. It's either "omg best movie evar!!!" or "piece of fucking garbage i wouldnt even use to clean up my shit!!!" And the worst is when someone finds something to change their opinion it goes immediately to one of those extremes and they feel compelled to "prove" the ignorant masses wrong.

>>88988056
What hole is there in your life that you feel so much hate?

>>88988029
>what do actors do
He's playing an edgy character, kid.

>>88988056
Then you're autistic.

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>>88988048
I don't know what the big deal is about Rey. I watched two trailers and deliberately avoided any and all discussion about the movie because I knew there would be spoilers, and I wanted to go in as fresh as possible, and Rey didn't come off as some sort of in-your-face SJW girl power fantasy thing. She came off as just a character. A barebones basic character, because this is fucking Star Wars, but still just a character.

I can only assume it's anti-SJW kneejerk paranoia that caused the Rey hate, because going in with only trailer hype, I didn't pick up on any of what they're complaining about.

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>>88987962
Oh definitely. /pol/ had threads about the movie all fucking day long for weeks. It was fucking weird because other topics relevant to their interests were barely discussed - and they of course will say this was because of shills and not because they're fucking retarded

>>88987962
>>88988048
What a straw(wo)man argument. Sure there are /pol/ types who actually think that way, but South Park laid it straight, it was just member berries at work and people felt ripped off when they came to their senses.

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>>88988146
I went to this conclusion by watching the latest RedLetterMedia videos, were they all make fun of Rogue One. The commentaries not only got mad because they should LOVE the movie, but somehow because REY WAS WAY WORSE, falling always on blabbering about SWJ or whatever scapegoat they find , like it had some relevance about anything.
>>88988144
>People praised the movie because female
>Therefore feminism
>Conclusion : 0/10

That is the new standard, it seems

Get ready for Wonder Woman, folks.

>>88987962
>>88988145

look, two retards using le /pol/ boogyeman to defend their shitty movie

TFA is just the ideas of the episode 4,5 and 6 done again. There are no truly original concepts, no engaging new characters, only appeal to the nostalgia fags. There is no reason for this film to exist except to earn disney some more billions.

>>88988292
Fuck off, /pol/.

>>88988357
I dunno
>TFA is just the ideas of the episode 4,5 and 6 done again. There are no truly original concepts, no engaging new characters, only appeal to the nostalgia fags. There is no reason for this film to exist except to earn disney some more billions.
He's right about this

>>88988292
I thought the movie was mediocre, but it's undeniable it rustled /pol/'s jimmies

>>88988292
Eh, it was a safe financial move, the franchise was in a rocky place in the public eye. I'm hoping that after playing it safe the future directors will take it in new directions Eva Rebuild style.

>>88988452
You say that like it's difficult to rustle /pol/'s jimmies. They're even more delicate and sensitive than the SJWs and jews they hate so much.

>>88988412
>he
>not "I"
Fuck off, /pol/.

>>88988486
>/pol/'s one guy

>>88988048
>>88988144
I have to agree.

>>88958927
This movie was shit, Ray Stephenson was absolutely wasted on it, the movie is made with the most basic knowledge of the punisher and franks character has been simplified to just killing machine they didnt even try to replicate the dark humor from the Ennis run instead focused on shit slapstick, wich doesnt surprise considering the director was a woman who admited not even liking the punisher
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P35eZvHwDs8
>/co/ will defend this

>>88988520
Fuck off, /pol/.

>>88953008
bad movie, some good jokes, very, very mediocre villain.

>everyone who thinks TFA is bad is from /pol/

You are no better.

>>88950612
Glad to see so many people like this movie, I love it. Always considered it my "guilty pleasure," so to speak.

>>88986737
It's like a cult. They have to give a good score to stagnant shit, sometimes coming out of their box.

>>88968421
The only scene that's bad is the cow scene.

>>88951018
>watch this as a kid multiple times
>entertaining, didn't really get it
>watch it as an adult, after seeing the 10 Commandments
>dat writing

I was not prepared.

>>88988470
>the franchise was in a rocky place in the public eye.

Really? The video games, cartoons, books and comics kept selling. Of course the hype for a new movie made everything skyrocket.

But TFA is how they treated their loyal fans, they cast them aside for new fans who don't know any better. Most of the prequel generation at least watched the OT first, while this was practically a reboot for impressionable young minds. We expected better from Disney.

>>88968012
You must be +18 to post on this site.

>>88979461
Seeing as what they're into right now, it would be on their list.

>>88988890
>we

>>88987973
>We didn't need to since it was the original movie, but this is a sequel and that shit doesn't fly anymore.

It's a continuation set thirty years later. It's okay for the identities of some people to be mysteries.

>They weren't raised to worship the Empire since birth.

They were mostly raised on a heavy diet of nationalism. Some people, no matter their origins, just find that they can't cross certain lines. It happens.

>Mind tricks with voice commands are on a whole new level

Anakin was the best fighter pilot in an entire fleet at age fucking ten.

And all space opera rips off Dune. Everything in SW is derivative of Dune.

>>88981467
I don't hate the prequels, but there's no denying they're very poorly made movies.

>>88951443
Western critics don't give a shit about animation, they only care about "2 deep 4u" plots.

>>88987993
I'm pretty sure Anakin got shit on all the time for being a shitty and annoying character in Phantom Menace and Clone Wars. The only time he became a decent character was in Revenge of the Sith and that was when they bothered to give him some character flaws.

>>88951018
Honestly that film doesn't highlight the biases against animation I don't know what does.

Even the more professional reviews I've read from it's release said that that it was too serious.
I wonder what they'd think of it if it where released today?

>>88956196
>based Scalet Johansson
>based

>>88950612
>and neglected to develop a coherent storyline
bitch WHAT
were the critics asleep? because it's pretty fucking established

>>88959596
Well yeah, anon, most things that make a film 'better or worse' are subjective. If you're getting into arguments on if a film is good or bad, you're gonna be getting into arguments on the subjective.

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Not /co/ but prepare yourself

I hate this mindset of using numbers to rate media that websites like RT or IGN have made.

>>88989699
This was my most played gamecube game. I spent hours with my friends during sleepovers playing it. When my little brother was 8 we played it non-stop and it helped us bond over a mutual interest.


So fuck IGN that game was at the very least 7/10.

>>88965106
>We saw like 3 planets that I remembers, the sets were boring and unexplored, and there didn't seem to be more characters than any previous start wars film so why the hell was the budget triple the fucking cost.

This is actually my main issue with TFA. I liked the main characters, and didn't mind it being a bit of a rehash of a New Hope in terms of plot, but the world-building was piss-poor. There was just something about it that felt really off. That the Resistance were ONLY using X-wings and the First Order ONLY using TIE Fighters, that kind of thing.

It felt like a theme park version of Star Wars. I won't call it a bad film, but I didn't really like it all that much.

I did like the cast though, so I am interested in where the next film goes, especially considering the director.

>>88987097
>It fucked up the storyline going forward so it's not okay. It's worse than the prequels because it made people not care about what happens next. Why would they when the future ROTJ promised got fucked offscreen?
This is the biggest problem I have with it. As a part of a then six films+TCW+Rebels+novels+comics franchise (anything that was canon then basically), it didn't do the one thing it should do: progress the overall story. Not only did it no do that, but almost the entire post-ROTJ part of the timeline invalidates the story that came before it. It's not a bad thing to have callbacks and do the "All of this has happened and will happen again" shitck, but to not only do that so soon and at the same time do a soft reboot to a story that spanned 6 films in only one film is a slap in the face. What makes it worse is that they didn't even bother giving some sort of explanation for why everything returned to status quo in the film. It's one thing to divide this information in an entire trilogy, but to have 1 film do nothing about it and even ignore explaining what is happening on screen (how can a small remnant build starkiller?, why doesn't the now superior new republic do something about the First Order?) is bad writing.

What I can't understand how people can spout about it being a good film and hand wave these problems away. It has a good presentation, good dialogue, nice effects and some new small interesting new content but that's it. Nothing more, nothing less atm. Episode VIII and IX may make it better by explaining some of the stuff, but how much can they make up for lost time in story telling.

>>88978851
It has emotional depth, not the kind of depth that should evade people unless they're emotionally crippled. The story itself is straightforward, that's one of it's strengths.

>>88988668
Fuck off, /pol/.

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>>88989699
>Godhand 3/10
>THREE
>OUT OF
>TEN

>>88989859
>how can a small remnant build starkiller?

That isn't a problem for me, really; it's space technology, I have no idea how it works and neither do you.

The issue for me is that it's thematic laziness. Most of the story retreading ANH didn't bother me, but Starkiller Base did because it felt like the laziest possible way of one-upping the stakes from the Original Trilogy.

>>88979440

true, hilarious show with decent "lore"

>>88990075
>Starkiller Base did because it felt like the laziest possible way of one-upping the stakes from the Original Trilogy
That's a problem for me too.

>Starkiller Base did because it felt like the laziest possible way of one-upping the stakes from the Original Trilogy.
I know, but if a galactic empire took decades to build the first death star and couldn't even finish the second in a few years, how can a small remnant even hope to turn a planet into even a stronger version of it? And when they did, how could no one from the republic notice it's construction? Surely, the first order must have had help.

>>88989494
Agreed.

It always saddens me the Spaceballs doesn't get the same respect as other Brooks comedies(Blazing Saddles, Young Frankenstein).

>>88990365
>I know, but if a galactic empire took decades to build the first death star and couldn't even finish the second in a few years, how can a small remnant even hope to turn a planet into even a stronger version of it? And when they did, how could no one from the republic notice it's construction? Surely, the first order must have had help.

They had 30 years and the groundwork already laid out for them, and the galaxy is a big place.

I will agree with you on the First Order having a really inconsistent level of power as a threat, though. They're supposed to be a small remnant, but they still feel like the overarching power in the universe.

>>88989699
true it's easily a 6/10

>>88950612
This movie was the goddamned shit.

>>88988066
You're out of touch if you think TFA is mostly made up of people who watched the Lucas' films. Many of them are young first time viewers or are foreigners who never saw the previous films. My younger brother never saw the recent prequels, let alone the original trilogy. He was baffled when people kept bringing up ANH as a negative to Abrams' film because he liked TFA

>>88988634
>>88989903
>>88988486
>>88988357
>Being this triggered and blaming one board for it because some people didn't like TFA
You need to leave. You can't be reasoned with, which makes just as bad as the board you hate. I hated TFA and I didn't like Rey. I'm not a Conservative, nor no I browse /pol/, and actually lean progressive on many issues. It's not a conspiracy. People just don't like your shitty movie.

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>>88988292
>call arguments boogeymen
>proceed to purposely misinterpret their arguments

Never change, /pol/. I never claimed the movie was good. Only that blaming Rey, or the left wing scapegoat of the week, on it is really retarded

It was the exactly movie. That is the main problem. Blaming the black guy and the action girl is really silly, and /pol/ did it so much that it went to the news. Or you forgot the whole "BOYCOTT STAR WARS" shit?

>>88950612
Critics can be so fucking stupid.

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>>88950678
THEY HAVE GONE TOO FAR THIS TIME

>>88989859
The Starkiller base is just so fucking stupid as a concept, it's literally the Death Star but bigger. The Empire making the Death Star made sense, they were the ruling regime in the galaxy at the time so they not only had the resources to build it but there was no one else that could be a threat to them outside of the rebellion. In TFA, the First Order is supposed to be the stragglers from the Empire and the Republic is supposed to be the defacto power yet they somehow manage to hide building a planet-size super-weapon from them without any retaliation. Even more retarded was the formation of the Resistance in order to make the good guys rebels again.

>>88987328

Yup

I wonder how many are going to be upset that if the wall does go up were paying for it now

>>88956260
Are people still pissed off about that?

>>88958544
>People just wanted a decent Star Wars movie, better than the prequels. They got it.
Yeah, they did, but that's not Rogue One in the picture.

>>88958017
Did you realize your facebook profile is showing..?

>>88951167
jesus christ why does him trying to psych out the senator bother you so much? stop being triggered.

>>88953080
This desu