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Does YD sincerely miss Pink?
Was that WD in the Pyramid?
Will anymore HW gems be redeemed?
Are the Zoo Quartz gonna be punished???
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>>88945503
In no particular order,
Yes
No
Yes
Yes
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>>88945503
In order

>Yes

>No

>Maybe

>I don't Know
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>>88945661
>Could you repeat the question?>>88945661
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>>88945661
>Can you repeat the question?
>YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME
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>>88945503
>Does YD sincerely miss Pink?
YD wants to destroy the earth and hide her shame.
Shit went deep south during the war and YD can't stand the embarrassment. PD was just the big, crystalline cherry on top of the failure sundae.

>Was that WD in the Pyramid?
Doubtful, but who besides Sugar knows?

>Will anymore HW gems be redeemed?
Still holding out hope for Jasper.

>Are the Zoo Quartz gonna be punished???
Depends on whether or not YD convinces BD to kill the waterworks.
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All I know is that the only reason the gems give a shit about Steven is because Rose is gone.
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>>88945503
better question: why does this show do nothing but provide more and more questions? I haven't watched it in over a year and it seems like the majority of SU threads are people asking questions about "why is this like this" or "is this character this or this"?
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>>88945503
I think YD misses her, but is more out for revenge then trying to stop it
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>>88945503
yeah, both diamonds' redemptions.
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>>88945503
>Does YD sincerely miss Pink?
I think so. She probably got over it faster and got on with her life like she was trying to express to BD.
>Was that WD in the Pyramid?
Hard to tell.
>Will anymore HW gems be redeemed?
Likely. They don't seem inherently bad just raised to be apart of an oppressive system that limits freedoms.
>Are the Zoo Quartz gonna be punished???
For what? They're common soldiers and I feel like they're likely to become allies in the near future when ever the gems decide to actually fix the warp gate that goes to space and actually take back the Zoo.
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Feel like YD has ulterior motives and is just pretending to miss her because she still has use for BD. YD is endgame big bad.
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I honestly can not see this show ending without a happy ending where the diamonds and HW gems make peace with the CG and leave earth alone.
Now the biggest question is when are the diamonds going to go to earth to check on the Cluster? And how can they continue this show after that?
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>>88949205
We don't know yellow diamond well enough to know that. For all we know she is just dealing with the loss through rage.
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>>88946171
I feel like its more then that at this point or else they wouldn't trust steven's judgement as often or follow his lead as they tend in some situations, but they're still sheltering him and its clear steven is fed up with that.
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>>88946171
>implying anythest doesnt like him as a lounge buddy
>implying pearl doesnt want the spawn of the murdercock
>implying geenet doesnt want him as some macbre fusion experiment
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>>88949652
She calls BD "Blue" in the chorus of her song. She's not singing about what's the point of feeling blue <sad>. She's singing what's the "What's the point of feeling, Blue? " YD wants to purge her emotions
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>>88950051
I thought it was meant as both.
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>>88950051
>YD wants to purge her emotions
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>>88950051
No she wants earth to get blown up so that BD doesn't have anything to remind her of the past. I mean the song is meant to be ironic given that BD of course is blue. Every feeling she has is blue as she is of course blue.
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>>88950147
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>>88946171
That's not true. Pearl came to terms with the fact that Steven was what Rose wanted, and though she had trouble understanding why that is, she seems to come to a realization about it by the end of Three Gems and a Baby. Garnet similarly has seemed to "believe in Steven" since the earliest episodes, understanding perhaps a bit because of her future vision, his potential for humans and gems. Amethyst just sees him as a playmate and someone to goof off with.
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>>88950146
>>88950147
>>88950171
To YD everything has a purpose, everything has a point...except for emotion. And what do we know about Yellow Diamond? She gets rid of anything that doesn't have a purpose
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>>88950236
Again. We don't know that. We have two scenes with the character and we can only speculate on her motivation at this point. She is clearly emotional herself or else destroying earth wouldn't be an option trying to raise a colony on it would be.
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>>88950354
We know about Yellow Diamond's beliefs through Jasper, who tells the characters this exact ideology
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>>88950189
DELETE EARTH, UPGRADE THE CRYSTAL GEMS
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>>88945503
Does anyone else think a story about diversity falls flat when it has a Chosen Boy narrative?

It's two conflicting themes; sure, everyone is equally capable of accomplishing great things. Unless you aren't born part of a superior race, anyway, in which case you and you alone have any real value as an individual.

The latter is more of a Japanese story element than a Western one at this point in time, and I don't mind either, but those two themes don't mix.
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>>88950420
>real value as an individual.
what a sociopathic concept to entertain
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>>88950389
If I recall correctly Jasper was cooping with her training vs. the new ideas that steven was trying to bring to her. I don't recall any mention of what she learned from yellow diamond. Do you have a specific scene in mind? I can grab any episode I have them all on my PC at the moment.
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>>88945503
>Does YD sincerely miss Pink?
Yes, but she's not going to admit it at this point. Not like how Blue is, anyway.
>Was that WD in the Pyramid?
Interesting thought, but an event like the great White Diamond gone AWOL seems like something they would have discussed by now on the level of Pink Diamond getting shattered.
>Will anymore HW gems be redeemed?
All the HW gems will probably be redeemed
>Are the Zoo Quartz gonna be punished???
They are goofy goobers and will probably be fine for our Amethyst's sake, or the show could go the dark route and we'd see their shattered remains/poofed gems later on.
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>>88950420
I think you missed the point. The narrative has way more to do with "getting along with others especially those way different then yourself". Not so much diversity. I think you are coming at it from the wrong angle.
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>>88950458
>Every gem is made for a purpose: to serve the order of the Diamonds. Those who cannot fit inside this order must be purged!
"Earthlings" s3ep23
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>>88950455
It's what the show does, not me.

Humans have no value and not even any control over the fate of their home planet by an invasion of spacefaring species. They hardly even know they exist. Those that do don't question it, or other are kept in a space zoo. They're little more than emotional livestock in this story.

Humanity only continues to exist not because of their own will to survive, but because the Gems keep a zoo (none of those on Earth know about) and Steven is the savior of the human race. Is this because of some sort of enlightenment? Was he a seismologist that discovered a Kindergarten or the Cluster or an astronomer that saw all that wacky shit going on in LEO with the Red Eye or anything of that sort? No, he's not some normal human that decided serious shit might be happening. He's a demigod. His position as savior is earned through birthright; none of humanity can do anything to safeguard their future without him because of what he was born as.
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>>88950504
Ah, perhaps so.
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>>88945503
>Does YD sincerely miss Pink
She looked like she was going to have an emotional break down at the end of the song, to the point where YP actually looked freaked out. She's being sincere.

>Was that WD in the Pyramid
Probably not. Could be one of her lieutenants, though.

>Will anymore HW gems be redeemed
Probably most of them will be, accounting for some of them being genuinely evil and the possibility that WD will be the actually evil diamond, as opposed to the others who are evil but redeemable.

>Are the Zoo Quartz gonna be punished
Do the Diamonds even know they did anything wrong? As I recall, Holly Blue has to keep her mouth shut in order to avoid them coming down on her head for letting the rebels humiliate her and escape. And trying to mess with the Zoo Quartz herself will only attract the Diamond's attention.
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>>88950538
>"Every gem is made for a purpose: to serve the order of the Diamonds. Those who cannot fit inside this order must be purged! To come out misshapen, to reshape yourself outside your purpose, and to defend this worthless, ruined planet is a disgrace!"

This doesn't have anything to do with emotions in fact what seems to really bring about jasper's downfall and her corruption is her unbreakable pride as a homeworld gem. She's talking about the tools for the diamonds "GEMS" I mean the very quote you gave me started out as EVERY GEM. I mean I'm not saying your wrong like I said back here>>88950354 we don't know her motivations yet. All we have is a collect call and a song telling her sister to get over her 5000 year long mourning ritual.

The diamonds simply need more development. Period. Hell I think this shows us more about BD way more then Yellow simply by the case of her not doing away with all the rose quarts. BD has a heart and hopefully that will actually do some good for her kind and steven's relationship with home world.
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>TD miss PD?

I think yes, but obviously not in the way others do. PD's death to YD is more an inconvenience than anything. It's not "I'm sad because my friend died." But rather "I'm sad because a fellow important piece to this grand machine I'm part of is gone, so the machine doesn't work as well."

Like a tire of a car lamenting the loss of another tire, because now the car doesn't drive.

>WD pyramid?

No clue.

>HW gem redeem?

No clue. I would imagine Jasper could be possible. At the same time though, maybe much farther down the road of the plot, I could imagine a situation where a diamond (not YD) becomes sympathetic to the CG cause for some reason or other, which causes a schism in the Authority and a possible civil war. Said sympathetic diamond fills the roll of portraying the resultant conflict as more weighty ("While the CG and main characters are dealing with the main threat and focus, my forces across the cosmos are engaged in war in the background, what a huge and terrible conflict this is that you don't actually see.")

>Zoo quartz

Not for awhile at least, if at all.
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>>88950171
>Every feeling she has is blue as she is of course blue.
Da ba dee ba ba die
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>>88950493
They don't seem like they meet very often, Holly Never met YD until that episode. Maybe they just never inquired about WD. Truthfully I want WD to be the final Villain.
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>>88950561
Pretty much, the reason fans give is that its not that kind of show and that its boring and cliche having the humans do something about it. What saddens me its that humans are shown like a bunch dumbasses that are lucky to be alive and gems are shown like complete innepts even in the field they are build for, they are a technologically advance species only becouse the show told us they're technologically advance species, everything else point out at them being little more that educaded orks.
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I just don't get why YD still hasn't worked out why the cluster hasn't come out yet
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>>88953576
Probably blames engineers for calculating the date wrong. Better question is why did Steven and Greg act so loud when they were hiding and even better one, why didn't Steven just take the lion and skip the whole plane trip.
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>>88946221
>why does this show do nothing but provide more and more questions?

Let's peel back the curtain a bit.

Steven Universe is a work of art, but more than that it's a project designed to make money.

The more questions they can raise, the longer they can string the audience along, the more episodes they can make.

Every episode is another paycheck.
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>>88953538
>its boring and cliche having the humans do something about it.

When poorly written, I'd agree.

It seems like equally bad writing to completely try to keep humans out of it like they're doing, though.

On a tangent; I'd kill to see an SCP Steven Universe crossover.
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>>88954085
When Lion took them to the Moon it looked like it took a couple minutes to get there. If you increase that distance to how far it is to the Zoo, even on Lion it might've taken a year or so.
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>>88954978
are you trying to imply Korea is further away than the moon
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>>88946221
The universe of the show is continuously expanding. The end result is, once a question about their world is answered, it opens up more of the world, and so more questions.
As for the "is this character this or this". that's a side-effect of none of the characters being black or white. Many of them are "morally questionable but on balance good/bad" and of course opinions vary.
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>>88954978
The first trip, that caused everything not the space one. Anyway why couldn't Garnet simply tell Steven to wait a few days before they go there? There were so many ways this could've been avoided, in fact the only reason it happened is because everyone acted completely irrationally and idiotic just at the right moment. You can explain Garnet by her being nervous or lion by him not being there at the moment but loud conversation when you're trying to avoid a giant dangerous alien is beyond anything even remotely excusable.
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>>88956332
There wasn't an excuse that wouldn't have made Steven want to go there even more.
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>>88950848
What's the point of feeling makes it clear that it's more then that for YD.
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>>88956455
>Steven, if we go now something terrible is going to happen to me, or anyone else who goes there but if we wait a few days you will get your answers.
Definitely sounds like he'd respond "fuck you Garnet I do what I want I don't care about your well being".
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>>88953576
It was in the ground for 5000 years. The thing could hatch a decade late and still only be "taking a bit longer than anticipated".
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>>88956556
He'd ask what would be there, why it's so dangerous, and would want to see it himself.
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>>88956332
Steven would still probably want to know why she was crying, even if Garnet spelled out "Blue Diamond is on Earth and wants us all dead". He's pretty emotionally-driven.
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>>88956609
But he wouldn't endanger anyone by taking them with him, which is the point. The whole point of the character is that he cares about others so he would never put anyone in danger knowingly. Garnet just failed to tell him that there's something happening there that makes it so dangerous at the moment. He wouldn't have learned about the blue diamond that way but he would still learn what the place was. Steven gets the answer he was looking for even if it wouldn't tell him why he saw the place and nobody would be kidnapped or threatened. Garnet didn't seem to know if they can rescue Greg which means that at least from their perspective there was a real possibility they wouldn't. I doubt his need for answers would be a higher priority if he learned that.
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>>88956738
He would simply try to go there all by himself. That way others would not be put in danger.
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>>88956781
And that would be bad because? They were only found out because he and Greg couldn't keep their mouths shut for a few minutes. Worst case scenario everything happens the same way except with Greg instead of Steven going to the rescue.
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>>88949138
>. She probably got over it faster and got on with her life like she was trying to express to BD.
The point of the music number was to show she never got over it. She nearly started crying at the end because she does feel and hides her still bleeding wounds with action. Regardless of wether that action is good or not. I guess she thinks that destroying the place where PD died will make her feel better, or be some sort of revenge.
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Do you guys think theres hentai of Blue and Yellow?
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>>88956853
I'm not implying that would be bad. I'm saying that there was no way Garnet could've talked Steven out of going to see the palanquin, or even postpone seeing it.
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>>88956853
>implying Steven wouldn't walk out of the bushes and try to consul Blue Diamond after a few minutes of listening to her mourn Pink
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>>88956987
>Worst case scenario everything happens the same way except with Greg instead of Steven going to the rescue.
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>>88956738
>he would never put anyone in danger knowingly.

But he would totally go to confront one of the diamonds alone to stop her crying. He's gone off alone that way before.

Garnet tells Steven about Blue Diamond.
He runs to Korea and talks to her.
She realized he's Rose Quartz.
The Crystal Gems are captured and shattered.

Perhaps Greg getting captured was the best possible future of all the immediate ones Garnet could see. She's not omniscient, but she can see big things, like a future where they're not all shattered immediately.
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>>88945503
This connie is objectively better than the original.
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>>88957163
How would she know he's not just another human?
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>>88950848
>PD's death to YD is more an inconvenience than anything.

Did you just glaze over and fall into a coma during Yellow Diamond's song? She and BD are both trying to cope with the loss of Pink Diamond in obsessive, unhealthy ways. BD is wallowing in grief and YD is in denial about the level of pain she's feeling
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>>88957198
The only objective thing about it is that your editing skills are non existent.
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>we still don't have porn of the amethysts doing lewd things to holly blue
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>>88945503
I believe that the quartz might be used for something, for sure. YD is a fucking bitch, and should die in a fire. As for the HW gems being redeemed, heh, probs not
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Couldn't they telegraph BD being redeemed any harder?
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>>88960141
>implying everyone won't be redeemed
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>>88958921
>we still don't have porn of the amethysts doing lewd things to holly blue
You fag, there's already a gangbang pic in one of the previous /trash/ threads...
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>>88960175
This.

BD is mourning and has focused on the grief aspect.

YD is also mourning but she's focused on her anger and desire for revenge.

Both will be redeemed.
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>>88959603
moar.
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>>88963045
>Both will be redeemed.

I hope not, they killed countless people, enslaved even more, want to destroy earth and kill everything on it (exept a handful of humans, and even that its out of obligation that might be gone too depending on YDs mood) and made the cluster and cluster prrototypes which is the equivalent of killing your friends and family and sewing them together as a gigant flesh golem.

>But she sad!

Fuck her saddness, she's still a monster.
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What image of White Diamond are you guys talking about when OP says
>Was that WD in the Pyramid
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>>88962603
send the pic, can't find it
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>>88964928
just go to /trash/ or browse the archives. I'm not posting lewds here to get banned. nice try though. b8 better next time.
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>>88958921
>They piled in, niggering everything in sight
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>>88945822
>but who besides Sugar knows?

People with brains
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>>88956879
You never really get over losing a loved one but you still need to carry on eventually and not go through life crying like BD does throughout her scenes at least thats how I interpreted it.
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>>88954085
>>88956598
The whole thing is an experiment too so who going on the fact that they have little information to go on since peridot has been MIA but I feel like there is probably going to be a follow up mission quite soon regarding it, and thats when (hopefully) Steven will (not) be ready to give the cluster further purpose beyond just being massively bubbled.

But I think thats a really fun part of the series watching the character get out of these impossible situations.
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>>88958921
>>88966650
Really makes you think.
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>>88945503
Pink ain't dead. Rose told everyone she shattered her to keep the other diamonds away, and not to look for her.
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>>88964742
Are...are the diamonds based on loss?
Pink=initial loss
Blue=grief
Yellow=anger
White=acceptance? Being above it all?
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>>88945503
I think yellow diamond is afraid of something. Maybe afraid that rose quartzs can shatter diamonds, maybe something else
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>>88956332
Considering Blue Diamond's personality, how gems perceive time, and how fast she was able to leave, it's entierely possible that she would just stay there, weeping, until either the Earth started to shake apart as the Cluster emerged (aka never) or until Yellow Diamond went and found her. I mean, how long is a year to someone like her?
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Who else got the feeling that YD isn't THAT upset about PD's death? In the song the whole "of course we still love her" parts seemed really out of place and didn't mesh well with the rest, like she was just throwing them in to make BD feel better. Maybe I'm overanalyzing it.
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>>88972078
I think her breaking down at the end of the song was genuine, which would suggest that she is still very upset at pink's death, just much better at suppressing/channneling her grief than blue
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>>88956912
Sure, why not.
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>>88950561
Go away Lex Luthor
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