Kill Six Billion Demons Thread - ksbd

>>88944611
I saw this page twenty minutes ago and still haven't stopped ejaculating.

I'm honestly happy Juggs is still around. He seemed to have served his purpose well enough up to this point, but I want to see thorn ideology explored a bit more.

>>88944611
For some reason, I didn't expect Maya to give enough of a fuck about other people to actually drag that girl out of danger...

Did Juggs shove himself inside the wheel after his armour got wrecked by Maya?

>>88944611
I'm wondering if Juggs might have possessed the wheel after his regular armour got trashed by Maya? So he's the wheel now, but only as a desperation move kind of thing

>>88944714
I wonder if that's a Thorn thing or something special about the wheel or just something all angels can do. It helps explain why he's reincarnated so few times.
Also, love the alt text:
>If you thought I'd get rid of a character who's literally a skeleton riding a motorcycle you'd be dead wrong

>>88944611
With all these canon angel forms ABADDON is giving us. I hope we get a legit seraphim form, probably with Him?

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>>88944611
>Thorns are literally Ophanim

>>88944611
Would you inflict violence unto Maya's body if she asked you to, anons? I would give my love to her, like a spear.

The real question here is will Maya manage to get her wine?

>>88944983
Never get between a murderhobo and her booze. That's just common sense.

hell yeah

If I remember correctly Maya's combat ability is tied to how drunk she is at the time and she looks pretty sober there. This may not go well for her.

On the other hand Juggs may leave her because she could (in his mind) pose a threat and he still has a mission to do.

A lot of people called that.

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>>88944611
AAAAAWWWWWW FUCK

>>88944611

HE'S BACK
WITH A VENGEANCE

>“Woe be he who mistakes the rider for the steed.”

I'm sorry, did people really not expect this and argue against this happening?

>>88944714
When he first appeared, the alt text was "woe befall any who mistakes the rider for the steed"

>>88946262
>Maya's combat ability is tied to how drunk she is at the time
Where did you get this from? She says she is a habitual drunk but that seems more like a personal preference

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>>88944611
JUGGERNAAAAAAAAUUUUT

>>88946996
SUNDAY! SUNDAY! SUNDAY!

YOU THOUGHT IT WAS OVER, BUT FOR ONE NIGHT ONLY SEE THE GREATEST REMATCH IN THRONE HISTORY!

THE CAPTAIN OF CUTTING, MATHANGI TEN METI, VERSUS THE IGNEOUS ANGEL OF IGNITION, 6 JUGGERNAUT STAR SCOURS THE UNIVERSE!

BE THERE!

>>88947241
It's in the tumblr. It was either for her or beggar knights in general.

>>88947443
More likely the latter.

Given that Maya is like a gajillion years old, she is probably swole regardless of her current drunk level

>>88947428
[distant revving engine noises]

>People saying Juggs was the wheel were right
Well shit, now I feel silly

>>88944818
You mean Himself? The Devil King? WHy would he have a Seraphim form?

>>88944611

TOP FUEL DRAGSTER RAGGED-EDGE REVVING COMMENCES!!!!

Hell yes, unexpected rematch of Hell's Angel versus Aggro Auntie!

Goddamn, I love this comic so much.

>>88947474
>>88947443
>>88947241
It's also in the RPG, Maya is a Mendicant Knight, which, while being beggar knights, also specialize in martial arts based around getting shit faced.

>>88944611

I think I love how his eyes on the wheel look so pissed off.

You have to wonder....

If Juggsy is using "fake" bodies to help keep his resurrection count low, then you have to wonder....

Just how fucking tough is 10 Vigilant Gaze? Because I can't see that guy having a deceptive 'bone' in his 'body.

I really wanna see that cage match, I really do.

>>88944765
I think it's solely Jugg's thing. Might even have something to do with him using the Art, or he's just a crazy good survivalist and has figured out ways to not bite the dust.

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>>88944611

>>88947653
I doubt they are fakes, I think he's just been around long enough, fighting enough shit, that he's developed methods of surviving, like hopping shells to prevent himself from being killed. Or it could be that he survived having his Thorn shell cut open, but his wheel can act as a proxy body as well to jump into in case his armor is destroyed, so he can return to the fight

>>88947653
There's also the possibility that 10 Vigilant Gaze doesn't do much fighting in general. Though I do imagine he's pretty fucking poweful.

>>88944818
eh, aren't seraphim just six winged humanoids? I'm really loving the more alien forms he's chosen, e.g. >>88944870

still waiting for a four-faced cherub though

>>88947845
Abbadon says he's one of the strongest angels alive, and hinted that Vigilant and Juggs will fight it out eventually

>>88947563
Because in Inferno, Lucifer was depicted with 3 heads, 6 arms, 6 eyes, and 6 wings. Himself is pretty much the big dog demon so who knows.. I mean Lucifer was Helel.

>>88947888
Sort of. In Orthodox iconography they're frequently depicted as a head surrounded by wings.

>>88947903
Oh, you mean a giant spooky monster form, I thought you meant him having an angel form.

>>88947653
The eyes kind of remind me of a certain set of GREAT FLAMING EYEBROWS.

>>88947208
OH DAMN

Spill Six Billion Semens

can someone post the punished allison pics?
i want to save them, but i can't find them anywhere

>>88949594
are you five

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>>88949688
Don't know how many there are but i'll post what I got dude

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>>88949688
Something like this man?

Don't angel's armors have to be made?
So what, when someone asked Juggs what he wanted he was like
>I WANT TO BE A MOTORCYCLE
>VROOM VROOM

>>88949756
>>88949774
yeah these are the ones i was looking for. thanks a bunch
the blonde version is god tier, god damn

>>88949806
More likely, it was something like this:
>I refuse to inhabit something made in the image of a disgusting human. I demand that you replicate my true self as I exist in the Void, the pure form of my flame.

And we've already seen that the uncontained flames of angels manifest in strange forms. I wouldn't be surprised if Juggernaut's true shape in the Void is literally just >>88944870.

>>88949806
If you could be a motorcycle you would be too.

>>88949852
>SO MAKE ME IN THE GREATEST AND PUREST FORM OF ALL: THAT OF A HARLEY-DAVIDSON

I love that Juggs is STILL the undisputed master of badass fucking entrances, even when he's literally a wheel.

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>>88949852
But his true form IS human shaped.

>>88950101
Still can't beat out Zoss.

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>>88949870
Its not all it's cracked up to be

>>88950140
Is that his true form or just a projection of his self? We know now that he inhabits the wheel, likely even in that image.

>>88950216
We don't know he inhabits the wheel, we know he CAN inhabit the wheel. And as weve seen countless times, the true self of the Angel does not need to match or even resemble their armor shape.

>>88950289
It's still not necessarily correct to assume that what we see as Juggernaut when we first meet him is actually Juggernaut, especially when that's when we first get the rider-steed quote.

I'll stick to the assumption that the wheel is the primary form of Juggernaut.

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>>88950289
I wonder if that was purposeful on the part of the craftsmen who made the angel shells or if it was just limitations. I for one would love to build a giant crazy flying bird monster with a dude's face rather than Michael's normal body.

There are two wheels on a motorbike. Are there two Juggernauts?

>>88950360
That would be far too obvious, and would be a pointless disguise. Juggs goes on about how pointless human lives are and their antics with tea cups, but you think he'd bother going through the charade of creating a false self and having it act out mannerisms and such? Unlikely in my opinion. Besides, as with every quote in KSBD, it's never as obvious as it seems at face value.

>>88950374
Pretty sure it was convenience sake. It would be hard to have law enforcers in your city that are giant birds, massive wheels of wings and eyes, and floating cubes sprouting rings of gold in a large burning chain. Much easier to just stuff them in a humanoid suit of armor and be done with it.

>>88944677
i am not happy to see him around. he was literally oblitirated and killed as existnce in the armor and the armor as well. he is literally fucking dead dead now. so fuck him and lets move to another political situation.

What is this? looks cool.

>>88950409
Not obvious enough, as we had people denying that Juggernaut was the wheel or inhabited the wheel until today's update. You've still got people like >>88950463 that insist he's still dead and this scene is a mistake.

And honestly? If it gives him an advantage in a fight, yes, I expect he'd likely go through with tricking others. I'm doubling-down on the theory that the true Juggs lies within the wheels and always has.

Hopefully the next few updates will shed light.

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>>88950481
KILL SIX BILLION DEMONS

>>88950503
>this scene is a mistake.

WOW! wrong conclusion. let me explain: Jugs is the head of a fucking maniac killer cult and his bike and armor are representing it. Jug and his armor are dead and should stay this way. (literally fuck him and his sadistic idiocy) his cult on other side is not even aware that Jug is a goner by a human with broken sword. the cult and followers are still out there kicking and i dont see its wrong that fucking wheel is popping up being possessed by some other angel or being.

>>88950503
I still insist that the wheel isn't his true form. Cause again, it would be incredibly silly
>Okay, so not only will I make a fake projection of my true flame, but I will also give it it's own set of Angel armor, which are EXCEEDINGLY rare and a new set hasn't been built in forever.
>Also I will stay inside this wheel that handicaps me in battle, so I can surprise people!
I am sticking with the idea that the wheel is a contingency plan for escaping or continuing the fight after his armor gets damaged, destroyed, or he gets voided

>>88950596
Juggs is in no way dead. Abbadon has hyped him up and gone to length to hint at a much deeper backstory to him, as well as future events involving him. He's the only Angel who can use the Art, that alone makes him exceedingly dangerous and skilled in combat, and as you said, he's the leader of the Thorns (or at least the one who speaks for them) which makes him one of the most dangerous Angels alive.

>>88944611
fucking radom encounter tables, man

>>88950604
I love the idea of someone shutting down his angel body with those needles (like White Chain early on) and then the wheel just bowls them over while growling.

>>88950655
>Abbadon has hyped him up and gone to length to hint at a much deeper backstory to him,

thats why i hate comics. creators can make the dead being dead. sure he build him up as a character. he need him to make a certain message. message is delivered, he is dead stop whining. if he wants so much the fucking whining competition then just do beside stories like faggets who created wolf arcs from fables

>>88950596
>All of the cryptic hinting.
>The wheel uses the same font, color scheme and speech bubble shape as Juggs does.
>The wheel even has the same verbal ticks that Juggs does.

Yeah, this is clearly just some other lesser angel that served Juggs and Juggs is permanetly dead permanently for forever permanently with great permanent permanence.

>>88950724
Jesus Christ the way you type physically hurts. Why are you here reading this if you dislike the entire medium?

>Hrrrn.

I'm imagining that sounding like a Harley Davidson revving up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLbbKAxbyHs

>>88950712
See, thats why I believe it's a back up container, and also something he can funnel his flame into, or use the Art on. Rather than it being his real body, it gives him an extra avenue of combat. Imagine being able to fight on par with Juggs in hand to hand combat, and suddenly the wheel comes roaring at you from behind, and attacks you like it has a mind of it's own, and then Juggs jumps in at the same time, the angel swapping between the two bodies and using the Art at the same time, making it impossible to predict how he's attacking. If thats how it actually is, I can see why Juggs has survived and become one of the most dangerous fuckers in Throne.

>>88949756
ow, she's missing fingers

>>88950596
Did you read Abbadon's comment on the page?
>If you thought I'd get rid of a character who's literally a skeleton riding a motorcycle you'd be dead wrong

There's no debating this.

>>88950813
And an eye.

Thats what happens when you jump into the shit head first.

>>88949806
"On all levels except physical, I am a motorcycle"

I have solved KSBD power lvls. Im leaving a LOT out because I hope to one day write a riveting /co post about eastern religious themes found in western comics.
In the beginning there was a single entity-YISUN. YISUN encompassed literally everything.

YISUN=Brahman

The hindu religion Brahman splits into an uncountable amount of pieces. First into different aspects of himself i.e. all the big, small gods and demons.

He gives life to everything, every thing contains ATMAN which is basically a piece of Brahman (their soul if you will).

The links to YISUN splitting are obvious but heres where KSBD differs.

In hindu religion reaching moksha/enlightenment is recognising the lie of life, recognising that everyone is just Brahman and letting go of personal identity.

Argues against every from of conflict as a futile effort in division, and encourages everyone to march back into the oneness. After everyone has achieved Moksha we are all basically back to square one until Brahman

>>88951280
Complete opposite of KSBD teachings of YISUN which encourages conflict, violence, ignorance and pig headed individualism. YISUN doesn't want to go back to YISUN ya dig. So anything to promote and perpuate the lie that we aren't all actually the same being pretending. This is why self actualisation and will are key themes in the KSBD. It allows for easier separation of the individual from the oneness of YISUN.

This is where I believe the big hitters get their power from. Those who walk the royal path have to recognise how static and stagnate the ultimate shape of the world is, as it is just YISUN this one entity. If you were weak willed you'd just give up yourself to the void because whats the point? The opposite of what YISUN wants.

What the big hitters do is I believe harness this contradiction and use it to their benefit. For example with Zoss defintiely being dead dead, lets consider what this tumblr post says (insert tumblr post). Word of God could basically be broken down to this.

Zoss recognise everything is YISUN
Death is a thing
Death is YISUN
Zoss is a thing
Zoss is YISUN
Zoss recognises that he is death (clean this up)

Keeping this contradiction in mind and being on the path of royalty allows him to manipulate what that means to him. Why is that? Because becoming royal is just recognising everyones ingrained right to manupliate anything and everyting because everyone is everything and anything.

But then how can Meti kill and defeat Zoss?

>>88950763
>Juggs sounds like a motorcycle talking

>>88951440
Well because Zoss isn't full royalty and he doesn't recognise all the contradictions they are in life. His able to recognise the inherent lie of their being a "death" and "life" yet still keep his self identity.

But when it comes to violence Zoss is typical in his use of it, as he doesn't recognise the "conundrum of exercising force (even for good intent) simply breeding more violence." He is using Alision as a spear to clean up his mistakes.

This is the opposite of meti, who goes on for pages and pages on the uselessness of fighting and violence begetting violence. Yet she still uses violence.

It seems the key to getting powerful is recognising some key contradiction of the world, and becoming that contradiction. But it seems that nobody has recognised every contradictroy aspect of life.

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>hrrn
>yfw you realize rorschach became an angel

>>88951581
He was always my angel.

>>88951440
Sounds exactly like CHIM from TES, which makes sense.

>>88950289
>>88950216
Actually, Abbadon once mentioned that the armors the Angels have now after making the Compact with the original Demiurges were different to the kind of stuff they used to have? I mean, the big Angels we saw Zoss kill in Throne when he first arrived are an exception, but as for the ones who were there before the Red City were emptied, their bodies weren't necessarily humanoid shape like they are now.

>>88951625
Their original bodies were made by Koss, the newer ones were made by the demiurges, and we haven't seen a Prime angle body that wasn't humanoid. And that makes me wonder who made the bodies that non-primes inhabited or if they just fought demons without them after they broke the first time.

>>88951581
>HRM.
>not HURM
hurm

>>88950604
>I will also give it it's own set of Angel armor, which are EXCEEDINGLY rare and a new set hasn't been built in forever.
Thorns make their own armor. This is why the Thorns are all intact and the clay ones like White Chain are brutalized in the conclave

It's the ash-clay bodies that aren't made anymore

>>88950724
You know this is the same comic where a guy gets his head cut off in the first few pages, but doesn't give a shit that he died?

and he shows up again twice later despite being dead?

Son you should namefag as Osmium because you're amazingly dense.

>>88952298
They're all made of ash-clay stuff.

We don't know how the Thorns get their armor, just that it's not the traditional method.

>>88952451
I wanna say that their jagged armour is made from broken pieces of their old armour all stuck together but have nothing in comic to back that up.

>>88948033
aren't those cherubim ?

>>88949756
>>88949774
Lookin kinda Guts there.

>>88947428
>6 Juggernaut canonically has the voice of a monster truck rally announcer
I will never stop loving this

>>88944611
OH FUCK

>>88951560
When did you see Meti use violence?

Also, Meti is probably Royalty.

>>88944908
>Would you inflict violence
YES

>>88953400
None of the characters, not even Zoss, have achieved true royalty yet.

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>>88944611
I've been meaning to start reading this webcomic for a while now. I've got one important question though.

Does any single person in this webcomic actually set it as their goal to kill six billion demons and then proceed with it to any meaningful degree?

>>88952309
>Son you should namefag as Osmium because you're amazingly dense.
KEK

>>88944908
Vivec pls

>>88953521
It's more of a guideline y'see...

>>88953400
Thats how she dies
>I am Meti, of no house but myself. In my 108th year I am surrounded by fools. My compatriots cling obsessively to their destiny, and my only apprentice is an idiot speck of a girl with more talent for eating than skill with the blade. Therefore I have decided to die drowning in the boiling gore of my enemies, of which there are many.

>>88953400
Of course she's Royalty, go back a few pages and you can literally see her wearing one of those funky flame crowns.

>>88954295
There are different levels of Royalty though.

>>88950409
Speaking of, notice all the miraculously intact teacups on the ground. Who wants to bet Juggs trips on them and gets fucked up again?

>>88950140
and yet recall the alt text for that page
>woe be he that mistakes the rider for the steed

>>88952451
>>88952854
It seems to be gifted from Metatron 1 himself, seeing as he created the Thorns in the first place

>>88954377
Giant's bone is tough shit.

And very fine.

>>88951826
Theres a forge where the Angel's shells were made, but there hasn't been any new armor made in ages

>>88953520
Zoss is the only character to achieve Royalty, Abbadon said so himself, he's just "still reaching for it"

>>88954295
The crowns aren't a sign of Royalty, otherwise Juggs and all the Seven would be Royalty, as well as Zoss long before he would have achieved it. Royalty isn't something thats just displayed, those crowns are clearly some kind of accessory or extension of power

>>88953521
Kill Six Billion Demons is actually a name, not necessarily a goal. But that doesn't mean it can't be both.

>>88955215
As for Meti, she said herself that she is Royalty, I believve. As for whether or not she did, I suppose that's up to us. I'd say that she achieved it her own way, different from Zoss who's "walking on the path of self-love".

>>88954464
Yeah, and quotes in KSBD are rarely meant to be taken at face value.

>>88947722
Is there a Flavor Town button?

>>88944611
You thought it was just a weapon, but it was really me, 6 Juggernaut Star Scours The Universe!

>>88955215
I feel like that's the point. Zoss is eternally "reaching" for Royalty, because if you ever actually outright attain it then you are no longer changing and improving through Will, so you're no longer on the Path.

>>88955279
Royalty seems to be something that has to be achieved via every path, not something that can be achieved via individual trials, it's called the Sevenfold path after all.

>>88955307
I doubt it's something that can never be achieved fully, every path has a destination, and the truth of all lies will eventually come out, which I think is the core concept of Royalty. I think the problem behind Zoss' attainment is, he has a grasp of Royalty, most likely he has walked down the Sevenfold path fully, but something about him just prevents him from holding onto it, and I think the events of KSBD will also work to help Zoss fully achieve Royalty.

>>88955316
I'm speaking in the same terms as when Abbadon said that Zoss has achieved Royalty and, at the same time, is still reaching for it. That sort of paradoxical is, and is not state.

>>88955266
Demon's are like, the least dangerous thing in this entire comic though.

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>6 Juggernaut was the motorcycle all along

Best plot twist ever.

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>>88947653
I always assumed Juggernaut was both the motorcycle and the skeleton-angel.

Remember that angels have a form in the void and a form in the physical, but their physical form has to be constructed; however, Juggs is a Thorn Knight. Apparently, they construct their own armor (pic related - Juggs offerring to build a new body for White Chain).

So, like the spear's in Michael's back, the motorcycle is a part of Jugg's true form, and his Thorn-constructed physical body is similar to his void form.

Jugg's is all of it - the skeleton-angel, the motorcycle, and maybe the sinners on the bike as well.

>>88958225
The spears aren't part of Michael, they are old wounds

>>88944678
>>88944714
Juggs is both the wheel and rider or perhaps they're 2 different angels.

>>88959869
I'm thinking he used The Art to divide his flame between the two.

>>88959869
>>88960131
The Art is lying to the universe and making it do something right? Combine that with the wheel, which seen from the side is "I" he could have pulled some fuckery to be both.

>>88944611
I remember a few of saying he was the wheels and I sighted that he was specifically a "Throne".

>>88953521
The original MSpaintadventure forum version of the comic (which is now lost forever to the infinite void of Hussie's lips) had the goal of killing 6 billion demons. Does that count?

>>88944611
>I remember somebody calling the thing that Abbadon said in the alt text when introducing the character
Okay

>>88950409
>a pointless disguise
Or maybe he's just a fucking wheel and there is no disguise.
>Juggs goes on about how pointless human lives are and their antics with tea cups, but you think he'd bother going through the charade of creating a false self and having it act out mannerisms and such
How is any of that in any way inconsistent with him being a wheel?

>>88950596
>that fucking wheel is popping up being possessed by some other angel or being.
Who the fuck would be able to possess Juggs?
Are you sure you're not just salty because you didn't notice he was the wheel and apparently don't read alt text.

>>88944611
Okay so I've been binge reading this for the past couple of days-ish, and I have one critical question...Is there porn of Cio?

Also, am I missing out on anything significant by not reading the lore heavy stories that Abbadon posts under the pages sometimes? I completely skipped that Aesma and the three masters bit, and I'm kind of regretting it.

>>88962530
The stories are pretty great, I would recommend reading them.

Most of what you would have missed is just world-building and a lot of it should not be taken literally.

>>88962569
Gotcha! I mean, he is a good writer, so I'll definitely check them out eventually. I was just afraid that skipping them was the equivalent to skipping a log in Homestuck.

>>88962640
MAYBE the red-eyed king one, since he may come up later. Otherwise no, they aren't required reading for a full understanding

>>88962530
>Is there porn of Cio?
Yes, but not much.

>Also, am I missing out on anything significant by not reading the lore heavy stories that Abbadon posts under the pages sometimes?
Significant, but not directly related to the main story. It's worldbuilding stuff.

>I was just afraid that skipping them was the equivalent to skipping a log in Homestuck.
Nope. It's equivalent to skipping a book in the Elder Scrolls games.

>>88944611
JUGGERNAUT LIIIIIIIIIVES!

>>88962530
They do help flesh out the world, but judging from the last few flashback pages the one's that are really important will be shown in the comic.
I actually didn't read any of them until I got the hard copy for christmas. They're certainly interesting, the Metis one in particular I really enjoyed, but it's mostly just garnish for the story.

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I bought volume 1 of this a while back. Volume 2 when?

My only complaint about the book is that its regular comic book sized, and its hard to make out some of the nice details.

It would be great as a large hardcover, because those huge "Wheres Waldo" pages with tons of shit going on everywhere NEED to be on big pages.

>>88944678
Her first appearance, she saves the noodle guy, and apprentice.
Of course, that could be labeled as preservation of her own meal.

>>88963538
yeah. after the first volume he started doing pages at actual print size so hopefully they'll be bigger in future volumes

>>88944611
So who called this? Everyone? Thought so.

>>88944611
literally everyone knew this. It was outright stated in the alt text when he was introduced.

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>>88947422
>JUGGERNAAAAAAAAUUUUT?

JUGGERNAAAAAAAAUUUUT!

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>>88947653
>>88949806
>word of god is that "an angel's armor is like a key, that only one specific angel can enter"
>juggs also uses The Art and is the only angel ever to do so

this crab-clawed nigga is breaking ALL the rules

>>88951069
>*purges*

>>88950596
go to bed 10 Vigilant Gaze

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>>88944611
>>88951581
did somebody say HRRRRN?

>>88958225
>those eyes on the "ceiling"
angels are fucking horrifying

>>88944611
>maya is /fit/ as fuark
>not fat
>fewer scars
>still has all her hair (scalp wound is not present)

this is a flashback right?

>>88950724
He never died anyway. Just got his armor smashed. We had no reason to believe he was dead, just banished.

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2017 is off to a good start if we get more Juggs goodness

the bonewheel shield is a shitty gimmick weapon anyway. Juggs is a noob.

>>88965338
No, they're talking about the castle exploding during the queen's party, it's current. Maya was having a flashback while she lay unconscious.

Allison is straight!

We ending of Terminator 1 now.

But who is Sarah Connor, Maya or Juggs?

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>>88944908
>Would you inflict violence unto Maya's body if she asked you to, anons? I would give my love to her, like a spear.

>Implying there's anyone that hasn't tasted your milk finger

>>88965338
You're a bit dense aren't you?

>>88949756
>>88949774
These pics make me sad ;_;

>>88950741
Not him and I think he's a triggered fucker but I hate most comics too tbqh. This is an exception and the only reason I ever even come to /co/

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>>88944611
>I remember somebody calling the 'juggs is the wheel' thing a while back. Good on you.
There were some great hints to it in the liturgy on this page.
http://killsixbilliondemons.com/comic/wielder-of-names-5-85/

>“And then was given to him a mighty wheel, all heavy of iron, and rimmed with brass, and inside the wheel was a thing called Truth. And it was said to him ‘Hear, if ye wish to lift the burning wheel, ye must first be broken upon it’. He agreed, for he knew his holy duty, and he was taken before the priests, anointed, and ordained, and broken for seven times seven days. Such screaming has ne’er been heard since that time.
But at the end of that time, they took him off, and they cast his limbs in steaming metal, and even though he never healed, he could lift that wheel, though no man could have hoped to. And inside the wheel was the awful thing called Truth, and he broke a thousand times a thousand sinners on its rim.”
– Song of Maybe

My initial thought was that it referred to the forging process of his shell, which could have something to do with his being able to use The Art and inhabit multiple vessels. Talk about dark science.


>>88965508
Oh ok that makes sense. Guess she just looks plumper with her robes on.

>>88965856
it's been a week since the last page, rude anon shame on you

>>88951440
It's literally CHIM from Kirkbrides ramblings in Elder Scrolls.

>>88951560
Zoss would win because Meti is a peasant that hates violence and even when stirred to it he'd just choose not to care that she killed him.

Meti is failed royalty in every since going by this cosmology. She's what you're describing here:

> If you were weak willed you'd just give up yourself to the void because whats the point? The opposite of what YISUN wants.

>>88963538
oh what the fuck

>>88952309
tbf it makes sense for Zoss and adds to the story. It shouldn't be like that for every single character.

So where did the girls come from? Are they locals and "auntie" some sort of honorific? Or is she hallucinating them? Some sort of magic familiar?

>>88955215
Abaddon has said tons of people have royalty, that only Zoss has royalty, and that no one has achieved royalty.

Abaddon is full of shit.

>>88956238
Demons=/= devils, though devils=demons.

>>88955409
>and the truth of all lies will eventually come out, which I think is the core concept of Royalty.
Lying is the royal art though.

>>88966196
>Are they locals and "auntie" some sort of honorific?
It is common in many cultures to refer to any older woman as auntie. They are just locals.

>>88962530
>Also, am I missing out on anything significant by not reading the lore heavy stories that Abbadon posts under the pages sometimes?
You're missing on fodder for tons of faux-deep bloviating in the comment section from geeks that thin they're philosophers. And the occasional fun story. Nothing critical though.

>>88963035
>Nope. It's equivalent to skipping a book in the Elder Scrolls games.

>vary a ton in quality and relevance
>rarely directly relate to anything in the actual main content
Pretty good analogy actually.

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>>88955215
>>88966216
>>88966283
>when you're a webcomic scribblegoblin who loves a fuckload of different types of mythologies so you mash them all together despite the ways they contradict one another and inject that ideological slurry into your latest work, but set it up so that the god of that universe is a lying cunt doing it all for fun in order to cover for your writing inconsistencies and plotholes, so that way when the fans point them out you can chalk it up to the nature of the universe you've written and everyone on /co/ still thinks you're a genius

>>88966394
He pays for it by having to endure the horrible fan commentary from 101 Philosophy Smokes Weed While Writing Homestuck Fanfic

>>88946262
That's mendicant knights in the RPG but Maya looked very sober when she cut Juggernaut.

>>88966150
>Hates
Yes, Meti hates violence, thats why she died drowning in the gore of her enemies. Meti doesn't hate violence, you dweeb. Meti is someone who has lived her life in carnage, training her body to it's peak, her first battle involved slaughtering a man with her bare hands. What Meti is about it the truth that needless violence is, well, needless. She is a master of everything to do with cutting, but she also realizes and believes that in the long run, being the best at killing and living by the sword is fucking DUMB.

>>88967822
Yes, Meti thinks needless violence is fuckimg DUMB, that's why he dies literally drowning in the gore of her enemies you dweeb.

>>88966283
Yeah but think about it. If you realize life is just one big lie, whats to stop you from interjecting your own falsehood into it? If nothing is true, anything is believable, and thus you can achieve anything. Thats what I believe the truth of Royalty is, choosing what to believe in amongst the grand lie that is reality.

>>88967847
She did that because she was sick of everyone around her being FUCKING DUMBIES. She pretty much just gave up on dealing with them all and just lost herself in violence until she died and didn't have to put up with any of it anymore.

>I am Meti, of no house but myself. In my 108th year I am surrounded by fools. My compatriots cling obsessively to their destiny, and my only apprentice is an idiot speck of a girl with more talent for eating than skill with the blade. Therefore I have decided to die drowning in the boiling gore of my enemies, of which there are many.

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>>88967822
>>88967847
It's almost like Meti is a really thin archetype portraying a shallow paradox to give the illusion of depth, all while being girl Diogenes of Sinope so the fans will want to fill in the gaps in characterization and stunted themes by themselves.

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>>88967925
Don't you feel awful when you try and seem smart?

>>88967925
You're so deep and analytical. But then again who could expect otherwise? Only the best literature critics hang out on anime imageboards whining about webcomics.

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>>88967912
So close to royalty and yet so far...

>She did that because she was sick of everyone around her being FUCKING DUMBIES. She pretty much just gave up on dealing with them all and just lost herself in violence until she died and didn't have to put up with any of it anymore.

Gets a piece of it, spends lifetimes moping about it, finally wastes it all on a tntrum.

>>88966190
and it makes sense for Juggs too, especially if you were one of MANY people who figured out he was the wheel

>>88967971
>>88968016
t. 45 Paragraphs About Not-Chim

I like the comic but it doesn't excel at this part of what it's trying to do, and all the pretentious fanwank gets old. I'll shut up and let you get back to it though, sorry for triggering you.

>>88966394
I have no idea how to turn this into a K6BD template

>>88965471
"REACH HEAVEN THROUGH VIOLENCE BABY"

>>88968018
See, you clearly don't understand Royalty. Those that do achieve royalty, like Meti, didn't give a shit about it.

Meti was one of those people who understood intrinsic facts about reality, she spent her life in battle, cutting down her enemies, and thus knows every aspect of the blade and the results of wielding it. Meti never moped about being a swordfighter. What she hated were people who clung to glory, who believed wielding a sword and cutting enemies could make them something incredible, something majestic, something beyond man. However her Sword Manuel makes it clear she did not hate swords or swordfighting, she goes on about the importance of understanding the world, and yourself, in every way, and only then can you truly Cut, she taught about respect, to both yourself, and your opponent, and that if you dare to wield a blade you must be ready to embrace death with as much joy and energy as you embraced life. She believed, whole heartedly in a persons strength, but she did not ever hold the misconception that someone who lives by the sword could do anything worth meaning, it's why a chunk of her manual tries to steer whoever is reading it towards learning actual skills and trades and living a simple life, rather than one bathed in death and killing.

She was someone who quickly became disillusioned with the idea of becoming anything more via the sword than just another killer.

>>88968376
Zoss seems to give a shit but maybe this whole concept really is just poorly fleshed out anyway.

>>88968454
It's never shown, we have very little dialogue with Zoss, so we have no idea what his stance on Royalty was. But it's clear that one of the simplest parts of Royalty is just not caring about it.

>YISUN sat once with his disciple Hansa in YISUN’s second clockwise glass palace. Hansa was one of his most ardent students and a grand questioner of YISUN. Unlike Yisun’s other disciple, Pree Ashma, he had no hunger in his heart for dominion of the universe, but a miserly scrutiny and a heart of iron nails. He was not an aspirant for royalty, and thereby attained it through little effort.

>>88968376
Who would name a sword Manuel

>>88968662
Yet Aesma was Yisun's strongest disciple due primarily to her endless hunger and ambition.

>>88968668
Meti is a latina

>>88968681
She was also never described as having anything to do with royalty.

>>88968681
True, but that doesn't make her Royalty. Ashma was YISUN's greatest disciple because she encompassed YISUN's creeds perfectly. She was violent and stubborn and burned with an un-quenchable hunger for domination, which is what YISUN was all about.

>>88968721
>>88968963
So Yisun was not royalty?

>>88969171
YISUN was a liar and a snark

>>88969209
So he was royalty?

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BEHOLD, A KING

*brrrrrpt*

>>88969226
Of course. YISUN is everything. Royalty is understanding the true name of God, so of course GOD knows their own name.

>>88969292
>Royalty is understanding the true name of God
Nah, Royalty is understanding that you and everything else is God lying to himself

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>>88969315
Nah, Royalty is a spook.

>>88958225
>the sinners on the bike as well
Abaddon said they're just a bunch of rowdy fight boys

>>88969747
Abaddon says a lot of shit

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>>88968180
Same when I posted it, but now I'm thinking a Smug Solomon or Murderbaby shoop might work

>>88968662
>He was not an aspirant for royalty, and thereby attained it through little effort.
this implies to me that royalty is obtainable through great effort

>>88969747
>skelly warboyz who want nothing but to be WITNESSED by Immortan Juggs, with glory on the King's Road

yes

>6 star juggernaught

>best restaurants in the world are rated out of 5 stars

>Juggs is a 6/5

>>88972143
No, the best restaurants are rated 0-3 stars, with restaurants not worthy of visiting being zero. Called the Michelin red guide.

A 3 star restaurant is so good that it is considered worthy of taking a special trip just to go to that restaurant.

also it's 6 Juggernaut Star, not 6 Star Juggernaut

>>88972143
>>88972718
>we'll never get a comfy slice of life mini-comic spinoff of Juggs opening up a cute little tea shop in throne with a bunch of his Thorn underlings and motorcycle-skellybros

>>88958225
The bike just seems like another 'shell', though. It's not as if the armors of Angels can't be brought into the void, after all; the ash-clay they're made up of were collected from there originally.

>>88950400
>Are there two Juggernauts?


VOID DUBS SPEK TRUTH.

This is...a surprisingly good question. Why couldn't there be two of him? He's using the Art to make a double, or something.

>>88952309
>Son you should namefag as Osmium because you're amazingly dense.

HA!

Rare element jokes, nice.

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>the entire motorcycle is just empty shells that he can inhabit or pour his power into to use as weapons

Mospedia Juggernaught bike armor when?

Id also settle for dual wielding both tires.

>>88965471
reach heaven through violence baby

>>88963538
holy shit

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I just realized who Meti is supposed to be an expy of!

>>88983014
Diogenes mixed with Musashi

The sword manual is very much influenced by the book of 5 rings.

>>88944611
Maya is disturbingly not fat in this picture Abbadon. Pls fix

>>88983539
Different people carry extra weight in different ways

You can see it in her jowels. I'm guessing she also has a beer belly. Given how thin Meti's arms were, those beefy arms are probably also partially chub and now just muscle.

Girl doesn't need to look like a blueberry cause shes fat, you know. Just look at that mighty ass

>>88983539

It's quite possible she's not 'fat', she's just 'well-fleshed.

IE, 'strong-fat'. Steely brawn under a layer of padding.

If she has a round face (seen as a child), she could tend to be 'jowly' and combined with voluminous robes, look a lot heavier than she is.

Which is an advantage. You expect her to be this slow, weak landwhale and she's really a fucking MMA heavyweight under all the cloth.

Just think somebody like Gabrielle Garcia, with a little chub on her.

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post rare AL-YIS-UNs

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>>88983539
>>88984215
>Maya
>fat
>Implying she doesn't carry a Certified Bearmode License in her wallet at all times

>>88985071
ok

>>88986377
>SIR
god damn could that man get any more based?

>>88986392
>god damn could that man get any more based?

Doubtful

>you will never wield the great sword of Meti, Manuel
jdimsa

>>88985071
>post rare AL-YIS-UNs
that's not her name

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>>88971199
>He was not an aspirant for royalty, and thereby attained it through little effort
>this implies to me that royalty is obtainable through great effort

Attained it "through" little effort, as opposed to "with" little effort.

Think of it like sage. If you want to get rid of a thread, you may initially think "I will sage bomb it." and through this act you achieve nothing. But if you simply hide the thread, this is the path.

Or you could reach heaven through reporting.

>>88989150
what the fuck am I looking at

>>88989150
I-is she ok?
pls respond

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>>88989150
>>88989217
>>88991133
It's the cover of "Deloused in the Comatorium" by the Mars Volta.

The album is supposed to be about a guy who OD's, and undergoes a bunch of trials to become some sort of deity.

It's listed as speculative fiction, and is nigh incomprehensible.

I saw a parallel and decided to illustrate it [spoilers]poorly[/spoilers].

>>88986392
Considering he's working with Justin "I WANT TO FUCK SUMMER'S ASS" Roiland on the new Rick and Morty season? Considering he releases a comic strip specifically for /fit/ every januaryfull of the dankest memes of the year? That's hard to beat.

>>88992719
he actually isn't working on R&M anymore. During the gap between when production on Season 2 finished and Season 3 was greenlit, he got a different job.

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>>88984215

She looked pretty tubsy for the first few times she showed up.

>>88993244
Yes, and Cio was less of a moe waifu. What o it?

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>>88993244

Maybe she wears a fat suit?

>>88993303
Princess was also qt.er when she first showed up. She's undergone the opposite transition of Cio.

>>88993244
>>88993326
god I miss abbadon's old style

>>88983539
You realize that people can be overweight without being shaped like Homer Simpson, right? You don't jump right to land whale status from skipping your daily jog. There are degrees of obesity, some of which look normal when covered up.