Homestuck

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>>88943104
It hasn't died yet? Snapchat? Fuck.

I need to catch up. I thought the ride was over...

Where can I catch the Snapchat posts?

>>88943181
http://upd8.ninja/snaps/

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>>88943387
Thanks anon.

What am I in for?

>>88943467
lots and lots of disappointment

>>88943467
Garbage

>>88943181

Nope, no snapchat. I don't know what OP's talking about, the story is totally, 100% over.

save yourself

>>88943664
jane said see you in a week, 2 weeks ago

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>>88943664
It's too late anon, the damage is done.

>>88943733
desu that snap seemed the most hussie out of any of them

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>>88943104
Still not funny. Characters are still OOC.

>>88943835
I pretty strongly disagree, compare the two attempts at the same joke and you'll see just how uninventive and off base the snapchat is.

>>88943683
>"see you in a week"
>"C U N A week"
What does it mean?

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>>88944068
>Hussie still existed at that point
What killed him

>>88944068
eh I mean it randomly going from jane in danger to clover sexting, plus it is what the app is actually for after all

>>88944215
he died in 2014 in a horse related incident. think about it has anyone seen him in person since the incident? no.

>>88944215
he's not dead
he's just resting
deep within
and when he wakes
we will all know
by the gods, we will all know

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>>88944319
>resting
It's time to move on

>>88944351
we can't. not until what was promised to us is delivered. I mean something is better than nothing right?

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>>88944351
Act 8 will arrive and it will be a final hoorah for Homestuck, and cleanse the taint that darkens our memories. Just you wait.

Just you wait...

>>88944351
Why is Jade a man there

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yessssss

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>>88945473
Just thought I would post it for old times sake

>>88945502
>>88945473
>>88945456
Thus is like that fsmily guy gag where quagmire fucks marge and then kills all the simpsons
It goes on way too long and isnt funny past the first murder

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>>88945707
I think it's main point was to make people on tumblr freak out.

>>88945760
Yeah but the first part does that. Drag it on too long and its not funny or effective anymore just boring

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Shitty fanservice.

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>>88946035
>salamence

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>>88944945
Huh, is that actually looks neat. Too bad it's not on mobile.

Post your titles and judge your teamates.

>>88946687
Maids and Seers guide
Mages and Heirs sacrifice
Blood is about domination, not unity
Rage is about primal urges
Doom is about doubt and faith

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>>88946687
I like the Space aspect because I like the idea of being able to control matter

Maybe make life a little better you know

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>>88946784
Bruv

>>88946939
Those look like a bunch of random words to me with very little thought about how they contradict each other across the system as a whole but okay

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>>88943104

Please, just let it go. With Cohen at the helm, this world is dead to us.

We're not #woke enough for Homestuck.

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>>88946981
I can see that, but separating each Aspect into four definitions gives it leeway to explain what it means. It's a clotted mess, yeah, but I think it's the best example.

And do you guys know where I can find a place where it's just the kids and trolls playing through the game with no interpersonal drama?

Homestuck would be 10x better/tolerable if it pushed the combat and Land exploration for each player.

It's all I ever wanted..

>>88947061
>fucking Palpatine lightning
>that filename
>UNLIMITED SPEED BOOST

It's little stuff, too.

Like... Roxy wearing masculine clothing. She's always been the one to dress the most feminine, but NOPE. Can't have her look female, not progressive enough. Likewise, Jane is the one that looks the most feminine, despite being the character who has gravitated towards more masculine dress. It's bizarre tonedeafness.

I would say Shelby is a bigger cancer on Homestuck than Cohen, as she's had her claws in longer, and Calliope, the worst character in the comic, literally represents her.

>>88947103

Sorry, Anon. All the interesting parts of the mythos were left behind in Cascade.

Act 6 onwards was teen romances, and boy howdy did it blow chunks.

>>88946981
if youre so smart why dont you have your own diagreams ,dont actually draw any though that would be autistic

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>>88947129

I have a folder full of bad fanart, because I love to hurt myself by going on Tumblr and seeing what the fanbase has become.

>>88946027
You'd be surprised how much this comic made reddit completely shit itself. Don't doubt the power shitty shock humor.

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>>88947156
There will never be a true Homestuck action adventure game.

>no grist farming
>no enemy compendium
>no land ques- YOU HAD ONE JOB ROSE
>no in-depth battle system
>no stylish fraymotifs
>no forced, flavorful character interactions between characters unlikely to ever meet

>>88947239
As long as people don't actual accept it as canon. AU? Sure. Headcanon? Keep it I your head.

>headcanons were a mistake
>shipping was a mistake

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>>88947380
>tfw no irl Sburb

>>88947391
I swear these have to parody at this point.

>>88947380

>YOU HAD ONE JOB ROSE

Fuck this makes me SO MAD. Not that Rose had one job, but she actively refused to play the game and instead opted to try and dismantle Sburb, presumably to end the cycle of destruction.

It was genuinely interesting to watch her trash the game, and watch Kanaya's stunned reactions, and then it went FUCKING NOWHERE. Rose does literally nothing of value post-Cascade, and that whole 'smash the board, end the game' idea goes NOWHERE.

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>>88947380

>trusting tweetman 'my writing is going to become so much more queer and fascist' and shelby 'literally married the stephen universe' to keep the comic from being so #woke it hurts

I wish I had your optimism, pal.

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>>88947415
Don't feed my escapism, anon. The only hope to playing Sburb is through the Beta kids adventure and Alternia trolls adventure as game 1, huge game to 100% complete. Then Alpha and Beforus gets game 2. They can keep the relationship and pandering as long as you make it up with gameplay enhancements.

THEN, the closest we can get with actually playing SBURB is through the create a character version. Would answer a questionaire to create your class then it would generate your house, your teamates, and your world. Same bosses throughout with a changing Jack and Black King. This is the only way.

...

I feel sad.

>>88947558

lol if you think the homestuck games won't be little more than a platform for cohen's political views.

hussie has dusted his hands of homestuck, so should you.

>>88947590

Fuck Steven Universe. At least MLP didn't taint every fanartist with it's garbage style.

>>88947436
This. So much content got dropped for other ideas Hussie wanted/was forced to do to process what seemed like another story, in a way.

>>88947607
>hussie dusted his hands of homestuck

I have no experience whatsoever, just an intense and sobering anger to write "fanfiction" of every character actually going through their quests like Hussie intended. Has ANYONE tried to do this that's entirely for the adventure and not ship-wanking?

>>88947712

It's why Aranea was the best character post-Cascade.

The others try to actively use relationship drama to bring her back, and she says "No, what's important is the story."

>>88947156
>Sorry, Anon. All the interesting parts of the mythos were left behind in Cascade.
caliborn and his dead session was interesting

>>88947886

They were interesting elements, but pointless. Caliborn was a funny character, but both the cherubs (Especially Calliope) were wholly superfluous.

Lord English should've just remained something with hinted origins, who actually turned up to menace the cast at some point before the end of the comic.

Caliborn is basically young Anakin Skywalker, in that we didn't need to have a movie focused on him to understand Darth Vader. In fact, it cheapened Darth Vader.

>>88947590
>JADE: you cant just use me as your emotional punching bag!! I HAVE FEELINGS TOO!!!!

>>88946687
page of breath apparently
i would dread to wear those short shorts tho

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>>88947970
Animals have no souls.
Ergo, they have no true feelings or emotions.

>>88947970
Shut up Jade

>>88947946
Are you saying Doc Scratch should've revealed his transformation way later in the story then? But that Star Wars analogy is kind of spot on.

>Caliborn's Adventure is DLC where the easy, medium, and hard difficulties are broken by a crowbar. Only Ultra Hard is avaailble.

>>88947997
Same here. I'm all legs. But once you Godtier, you could wear whatever you want with a thought.

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>>88947999
They can still be sad though

>>88948034

Doc Scratch could've just implied/stated he was an earlier player of the game out to destroy it for reasons not even we can comprehend. Or do you mean when Doc Scratch transformed?

Then, use it to create a contrast with Rose wanting to do the same thing.

>>88947946
no it's the opposite. lord english cheapened caliborn

>>88948084
Why would the kids know or care about jesus?

>>88943181
It's literally a Jewish hipster's fanfiction designed to keep interest until the three-hour long game comes out on some vague date in January.

It isn't worth actively looking into, just shitpost ITT while passively anticipating it like the rest of us.

>>88948185
John always struck me as being a generic whitebread kid, so he probably went to church on Sundays.
Dave and Bro wouldn't care.
Rose would be too "enlightened" for stuff like that.
Jade's grandpa could have given her a starter pack on various world religions and left her to decide on her own what she thought.

>>88948230

>COMING SOON IN JANUARY
>no new content has been posted or revealed since the first trailer over a year ago

>>88948089
The transformation. Doc Scratch as a omnipotent force was a lot of fun in the early stages of Homestuck and when he transformed, we had the big bad Lord English himself, waiting. And waiting. Now we had no villian acting with the cast because he was the final villian.

THEN comes Caliborn. I love the character and how he meddled with more of the cast the Scratch did, but imarine if we had TWO asshole s meddling them throughout?

>>88948185
I R O N I C A L L Y

>>88948265
I'm saying more around the fact that they know all religion is pretty much false from their perspective, since it's obvious that teenagers create the universe in an MMO.

>>88948283
Are you saying Dave is ironically a born-again christian?

>>88948277
>>88948230
Steam page says January 17th.

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Bots tend to enjoy
Karkat
Terezi
Rose
as characters.


Why? What is so appealing about them to robots?

>>88948330
I liked that thing where the major religion of the world involves worshipping the kids as gods, but the kids stay hidden. Except for Dave, who instead becomes a TV preacher preaching the word of the time god with nobody realizing his identity.

>>88948230
You could shitpost, or, you could help us make what Homestuck was supposed to be.

Any input that I missed here >>88947380 to make it great?

>>88948347
they all want to fuck dave

dave is a robopussy magnet

>>88948345
>Steam page
So their seven-figure Kickstarter managed to squeeze past the indie greenlight competition?

Noice.

>>88948416
>seven figures
>cucked away by gentlemen

Fuck I was trying to forget

>>88948416
To be fair, Steam requires a vetted publisher or a previously greenlit game on a developer's sheet to bypass greenlight.

>>88948496
This shit doesn't have either of those. What gives?

>>88948283

I would say remove Caliborn, and have Lord English be a more active antagonist.

Have him actually use his ability to be ALREADY HERE to the detriment of the cast, rather than being perpetually one step behind?

>>88948529
>This shit doesn't have either of those.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's why they had to go to greenlight.

>>88948551
I would rather remove Lord English than remove Caliborn. LE is nothing without Caliborn but a shittier Jack Noir with a better design.

>>88948747

But removing Caliborn also removes Calliope. What now, Anon?

>>88948779
Tired of this "Calliope is shit" meme. Get rid of Aranea first.

>>88948812
>meme
Name Calliope's interesting traits.

>>88948070
really? cause everyone who went godteir kept their godteir pj's on

>>88948826
She is exactly as interesting as Jade and is basically a retread of Acts 1-4 Jade..

>>88948812

>implying calliope isn't shit

bad taste detected

>>88948839
not vriska
also, kids in credits

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>>88948858
Not really. Jade has her temper issues, actual motivations, relationships, and develops.
Calliope doesn't have any qualities. She barely has any interests beyond watching the main characters.

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>>88943104
Drones are asleep, post fantrolls

>>88948826

One thing I always found funny is that Aranea's informed flaw (Brings everything back to herself) is one Calliope legitimately has, except all the others love her for it

>>88948884
oh, man i completely forgot vriska went godteir. i thought its something that was undone by the retcon

>>88948938
Everyone being nice to calliope seemed weird, and entirely out of character for most of them

>the people who like calliope are retarded
Every time

>>88949007
I kinda blazed through this part and thought she was fine since Caliborn was such an asshole to her.

What downsides would you change about Calliope to make her better?

>>88949067
I would remove Calliope altogether, like a sensible person.

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so what function do breast serve on female trolls?

>>88945456
>>88945473
>>88945502
First strip is best strip but the sequence still gives me a chuckle. One of the best things to come out of nustuck.

>>88948812
Calliope IS shit. She was shit in the story and she's fucking HORRID in the post-series

>>88949081
Now you're memeing

>>88949099
Based off humans? Even though sex is different? Idfk

>>88949228

Calliope is unequivocally the worst character in Homestuck, though. Saying "hurr nice meme" over and over just makes you look autistic.

>>88949099
Acid sacks.

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>>88949579
>Calliope is unequivocally the second worst character in Homestuck

I fixed your typo, friend.

in one of those bouts where i disassociate with everyone around me by burning bridges, end up lonely as fuck and do nothing but reminisce about the happiness this stupid fucking webcomic used to bring me. i hate myself and wish i was never born. it's all i have. or had. i'm too much of a coward to end myself. i wish my homestuck waifu was real. fuck you hussie.

fuck

>>88949620
what is your homestuck waifu though

>>88949671
it doesn't even matter anymore

>>88949620
>I probably won't ever be you
Feels good. More similar than I'd like though.

>>88947886
>caliborn and his dead session was interesting
I'm of the opinion that caliborn's dead session actually had a negative effect, it made the lore LESS interesting. It would have been more interesting to see how caliborn responded to and exploited a typical game session, plus the fact that Skaia tailor made a reward for him so he could be the big bad diminishes his credibility as a villain.

>>88949620

>tfw reading homestuck was a huge part of your teenage years
>tfw the quality started to go down, but you smiled nervously and kept making excuse
>it'll get better when the original cast is back, you told yourself
>it'll get better once they reach the session
>it'll get better post-retcon
>it'll get better in the ending
>it never did
>now we're here
>telling outselves
>it'll get better in the epilogue
>but on some level you know it won't
>the hole left behind will never be filled
>the magic is gone

>>88949675
Yeah it does, tell us your waifu coward

>>88949579
Then give examples on why she's shit you fuck.

>>88949612

(Vriska) wasn't loved by all around her and had the decency to fuck off once she succumbed to shipping bullshit.

Calliope was the deus ex machina that allowed the defeat of the final boss, and also everyone loved her unquestioningly

>>88949612
This was never needed. All of this was irrelevant in the end.

>>88949773

>Super important to defeating the final boss
>Everyone loves her unconditionally, apart from Caliborn
>Boring
>Overcomes no trials, has victory handed to her
>Unlike Jade who was a semi-parody of the Mary Sue by also being a complete fuckup, Calliope had no failures and didn't fuck anything up

>>88948747
>LE is nothing without Caliborn but a shittier Jack Noir with a better design.
That wasn't the case throughout Act 5. LE lost most of his character traits in Act 6, BECAUSE of Caliborn. He was suggested throughout the story to be a brilliant and cunning manipulator behind the scenes, but those aspects of his lore were shunted into Doc Scratch.

>>88948812
What's wrong with Aranea? She's one of the better villains in the story. She's the only one who is really ideologically driven, moreso than Vriska, the Condesce, etc.

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>>88949836

>>88949771
she doesn't deserve to be associated with me

>>88949832
Thank you.

I agree with all of this, though. She's not just a Mary sue, she's a plot object in the game used to proceed the story with opinions on the characters.

But isn't this a part of her not starting her adventure? If we saw her struggle in her Land quests would that make her better?

>>88949912
Sounds more like you don't have one and are lying to get points with us

>>88949805
>This was never needed. All of this was irrelevant in the end.
Not to mention it totally fucks with retcon mechanics and creates a ton of plotholes

>>88949912
Not with that attitude.
Also maybe this:
>>88949991

>>88949962
>If we saw her struggle in her Land quests would that make her better?
undoubtedly.
her saccharine attitude and affected mannerisms would still be extremely grating though.
I can hardly even tolerate Roxy when she's in "friendship" mode

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>>88949991
she could never feel anything. and fuck you with that us bullshit, ive been in these threads since you were in diapers. weird, slime-filled alien diapers

>>88949836
>>88949906
Hoshime a hack

>>88949962

Kind of? That might help with the 'boring' dot point, but Calliope received PLENTY of screen time and words to establish herself, she just failed to do so. She didn't really exhibit anything to indicate that MORE screen time would fix her problems of being adored and mission-critical. I mean, even in the snapchats where the characters are written with a fanfiction-level understanding of Homestuck, she just makes faces and acts cutesy.

As for 'what if we saw X', it's a bit of a pipe dream, isn't it? There are so many ways that Homestuck failed from a narrative standpoint at the end, and if we were to go through and fix all the flaws, then Calliope would still be further down the totem pole. As it stands, Jade had criminally little to do at the climax, so giving her Calliope's space stuff would've been much more narratively sound.

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>>88950120
you a no-taste

>>88949962

This might sound a bit conspiratorial, but I think part of the problem is that Calliope=Shelby.

This is based purely on the fact that Hussie drew Shelby in her 'canon' God Tier attire, which was also Muse of Space. On some level, conscious or no, Hussie wanted to make Shelby important, beloved and flawless, because he is very close friends with her (He officiated her wedding). This never ends well, and the end result is what we got. I believe Roxy is also Shelby's favorite character, hence why Calliope/Roxy is now being pushed in the snapchats.

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>>88947712
>an intense and sobering anger to write "fanfiction" of every character actually going through their quests like Hussie intended
reminds me of these comics

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>>88950081
>>88950136
If I were to right a fanfiction AU fucking kill me for saying it like that about the kids focusing solely on their quests, it would be Calliope and Caliborn writing to one another in helpful/harmful ways.

Action wise, if I'd bother to draw it, their fighting and solving skills would contrast between precision and gumption vs carnage and carelessness.

Wait. They were supposed to be on the same planet with separate quests, right?

>>88950251
Fucking. Yes. This is what I want. I know it's mocking the comic, but this is what I want to make but on the scale it supposed to be.

>>88950120
Look, either you want to fuck tiny Jade or you're a bad person

>>88950291
>Wait. They were supposed to be on the same planet with separate quests, right?
Impossible to say, since in all known timelines, one of them is predestined to die before they even enter their session, leading to a dead session.

>>88950291
>Wait. They were supposed to be on the same planet with separate quests, right?

That seems unlikely, given they have separate Denizens.

>>88950339
Was that fucking ring meant to keep them both alive in the same body?

Then at the end on their quests beds they separate into 2 different cherubs? Can this make sense?

>>88950326
Wanting to fuck any Jade makes you a bad person

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>>88950429
found the bad person

"tiny" rose...

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>>88950511
only comparatively

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>>88950394
Fuck, you're right. Well then:

>one of them dies first
>the living cherub goes on their quest
>someone else (Gamzee?) works on preparing the dead cherub's entry until the living cherub completes their quest
>living cherub meets their denizen
>makes a choice defintely involving the other cherub

OR

>time and space shenanigans
>two different timelines of a living Caliborn and Calliope completing their sessions
>????
>Profit.

I just want to include every player in this RPG called SBURB with no fucking around.

>>88950397
the long and short of it is that Sburb was not designed to be played by Cherubs, and that they were destined to do so retroactively broke the game, with shit like the kernalsprite singularity making a black hole rather than the usual client-server cooperation to get your 'puzzle' that sends your house to the medium

>>88950235
>He officiated her wedding
How much of a fucking meme do you want your life to be?

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>>88950702

?

He did, though?

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is the one on the right shelby because she looks like the 'DIE CIS SCUM' person

>>88950743
Just kill Hussie already.

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>>88950743

>>88950818
I hope there's still a part of Old Hussie alive deep down.

>>88950743
Jesus fucking Christ.

So the moral of the story is if you don't want to ruin your webcomic then don't ever get friends?

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>>88949585
I'm okay with this

>>88950743
I'm gonna need you to do me a solid here, and look real close at that image, take in the details.

>>88950996

Yes, he's using a UFO Hunter's handbook, but secular officiaries can marry people with just about any book they please.

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>>88950996
>finally looked real close

kek

>>88950909
Yes, Hussie's absurd, head long dive into Homestuck was what carried him to success. Ot permitted him to maintane the ludicrous update schedule that kept people engaged, and it kept him "in the zone" and writing at a consistent level.

Having a life ruined that.

>>88950909
yes. everyone knows all the great artistic masters were depressed, curmudgeon hermits that lived and died alone and weren't appreciated until post-mortem

I don't care about gay marriages, but I think it should be illegal for Andrew Hussie to officiate in any way.

>>88951025
Or he wasn't actually officiating, because that's fucking stupid. It was a gag photo.

>>88951061
It made me gag if you know what I mean.

>>88950909
>>88951055
>>88951041
We'll I already have the depression part down. And I would say I still have no life but I made advances to getting one last year, still uninteresting as fuck though. I know I have great ideas for a lot of stories but I'm just afraid to put my content out there. Help.

>>88947712
I'm glad they didn't really all complete their quests due to all the bullshit that happened. It made sense as the game was a beta/alpha. Thing was broken as fuck and forces within it that should have normally just been essentially AI meant to add flavor to the worlds suddenly turned themselves in the main villains and wreaked havoc for a bit before getting swept aside for a disappointing end.

At what moment (if ever) did Homestuck jump the shark?

Hard Mode: Be as exact as possible.

>>88951135
the first pages of the act after Cascade. it should've ended there and left us to wonder what could've been

>>88951122
Just try, it's a bit cliche, but you never know unless you do.

>>88949748
>even the monster who tormented you by slowly destroying his own comic and taking your happiness along with it has moved on and put someone else in charge
>you never will move on

>>88951135
CAUCASIAN

>>88951135
I would actually argue the sprite-merging shit. I don't care how happy Davepetasprite became. His suffering as Davesprite was far more interesting.

I didn't think I could get so close to the end and still feel like stopping, but the sprite^2 and all that shit was just ridiculous, even for this story.

>>88951061

Google 'Hussie officiates Shelby'. It's legit.

>>88951135

I would say a few hundred pages into Act 6. It lost the pacing by spending too long focusing on the new cast and letting the arcs and motivations of the actual characters atrophy.

It became an absolute mess post-Retcon, though. Character voice was just... Wrong.

>>88951135
It's always had ups and downs.

The downs started to outpace the ups once the original cast joined the new session, which is honestly surprising.

The comic passed the point of no return when Vriska was resurrected, of course.

>>88951135
>At what moment (if ever) did Homestuck jump the shark?
It had the most potential at some point before the dream bubbles were introduced. The dream bubbles irrevocably altered the tone and scale of the story for the worse, and what followed was an endless chain of cheap character deaths and bullshit resurrections.

>>88951239
>The downs started to outpace the ups once the original cast joined the new session, which is honestly surprising.
I think that "The Aranea Saga" is actually better than most of Act 6. It didn't nosedive until after Game Over.

>>88951439

Agreed. Aranea was, bizarrely, one of the better written characters in Homestuck. She had ample foreshadowing, and remained somewhat sympathetic. Though, what probably kept her from becoming a poorly written character is that she never actually returned.

I still expect her to, on some level? It'd be bizarre if she was the only character to have a permanent death.

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>>88951571
but how far will she go

>>88951135
The first page of Hivebent. The shift in focus became apparent almost immediately, as the larger cast and looser narrative focus, tell don't mentality, and greater emphasis on interpersonal drama, all began to surface. One might be able to argue it didn't really happen until the Troll shipping explanation, but anyone saying "after Cascade" is deluded.

>>88951596

I would say the difference is momentum. act 5 still blazed forwards, but post-cascade repeatedly became mired

>>88951571
underboob jade

>>88943104
>http
It was okay. I am not sure liking Jane turning evil.

>>88951702
We might as well have some fucking conflict here.

>>88948896
this. I wouldn't mind her apparently fucking Roxy now half as much if we'd actually gotten a character worth anybody fucking.

>>88951702

>turning Jane evil

lol if you think there will be any moral repercussions for anything Jane does

I lost any faith in foreshadowing where it seemed John was depressed, and the next snapchat update was by Cohen and he was all smiles happy halloween everyone!

>>88951135
After Caliborn: Enter

>>88950743
At least now I never have to wonder if Hussie will put out anything interesting any time soon

>when you have Tumblr rape your favorite comic hard

>>88948345
*January 2017

>>88953442
>implying they stopped with this comic
The whole industry is suffering somewhat lad. Thank God for Japan

I can't believe Roxy was raising Rose at age 18

>>88953733
That means Roxy was an underage drinker

>>88953743
Well duh

Have they gotten their immortal souls trapped inside the sburb logo yet.

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>>88953733
>2 years difference from Roxy yet looks way different
But how

>>88954158
Having kids can affect a woman's figure

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>>88954668
That's not how it works.

>>88951135
The beginning of act 5

Only we didn't we realize the magnitude of said shark

>>88954668
I bet Jade's a total freaking MILF

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>>88950818
I fell out of my chair laughing.

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>>88954903

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>>88948347
We know what robots really want.

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what if... fancherubs?

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Man. I abandoned Homestuck sometime around. the Halloween snapchat. It made me sad thinking about how great it was, but what a shitty ending it had. Why are you still here, /hst/?

Also, what the fuck is gay singularity?

>>88955167
Only if you remember that they're basically lonely eldritch abomination angels that protect or ravage planets and are ten foot tall muscular green skeleton things with wings.

>>88955090
Post more MILFs

>>88954818
>the file name
Who's the artist?

>>88955182
>Also, what the fuck is gay singularity?

Hussie said that he's gonna make a gay singularity, that is, make everything as queer and progressive as possible, because that's somehow funny.

>>88951135
Game Over, cause that's where the plot got rushed.

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>>88955182
"the singularity" is probably a ref to an idea among tech nerds that technology will start self-improving (like with AI that writes and launches new AI), and it will accellerate so fast we won't be able to see what happens in the future after that point, like how a black hole (an astronomical singularity of mass) causes acceleration around it so fast that it hides the mass behind an impenetrable lightspeed threshold. It's called an "event horizon" because we can't see the events past this border.
... if this is what Hussie meant, then the story's "gay singularity" would be when the gay shit in the story gets so dense that everything else is pulled into it, and the plot can no longer be seen or detected because the gay mass pulled it in.

What fools that try to look smart think the "singularity" means is a future-tech utopia, where things are so good we couldn't dream of it ... and then the fool will spend the next six hours telling you about all the things that they "couldn't even dream" will happen. This gay singularity would be when the entire world is improved by ubiquitous gayness.

I believe Hussie is smart enough to know the correct definition, and he knew (in his Starlight Calliope and TSO way) that idiots would think he meant the second, and the idiots would make fools of themselves so the rest of us could point and laugh.

>>88951135
The moment Hussie dropped user commands.
Or the moment he started Hivebent.
If not these, then he should've had John retcon just the events of Game Over.

>>88955455
I'm not convinced. Hussie was a bit eccentric, but he wouldn't deliberately sabotage his story for a joke. He genuinely buys into the whole "gay representation is important" thing.

>>88955530
You mean derailing everything to shove it in people's faces because he's a spineless wimp who was overly influenced by his circle of idiot friends.

>>88951135
Introducing individual ancestor trolls. They should have been simply talked about as the trolls passed through the void, or the characters maybe had one conversation with their ancestors before they fucked off and stayed dead.

The Alpha kids were salvageable and the original trolls that managed to survive up until that point still had unconcluded character arcs that needed built.

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>>88951135

This is the where the seeds of decline were planted.

WV: Rise up. When Andrew first asked other artists to draw assets. When Andrew worked on everything except the flash games and the music, things were good. However, this flash is where Andrew started extending the involvement of the community in the direct production of Homestuck. I believe this eventually led to large swaths of story development reflecting the insular group of individuals he collected for drawing art. When Andrew was the sole person making Homestuck, Homestuck was at its best. When others started to get involved is when it declined.

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>>88955530
> he wouldn't deliberately sabotage his story for a joke
Not a joke, a statement. dude is postmodern as fuck.
and yeah, he fucking would. He said in the Formspring chats it would be funny if one of the background characters turned out to be the most important figure in the story, and a couple years later we get the vriskagram.
What makes him different from the "lol i dont know what im doing burn it all" keenspace artists is he will own his mess and keep going. It's not self-sabotage because his goal isn't to wreck his own things, it's more like he keeps upping the difficulty on his own work, with a complexity pile that doesn't stop getting taller.

Man, why is every Jade now either a hairy man or have a giant throbbing dog dick. I finally find a cute jade and bam, dog dick.
What is with artists shoving awful shit into art now? SU didn't cause this did it?

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>>88955807
>He said in the Formspring chats it would be funny if one of the background characters turned out to be the most important figure in the story, and a couple years later we get the vriskagram.
We didn't need to wait until Vriskagram for that to come to fruition though. That happened during Act 5. And I wouldn't call it sabotage, either. Making a background character important isn't such an unusual idea. It's better than introducing an important character without any foreshadowing whatsoever.

>It's not self-sabotage because his goal isn't to wreck his own things, it's more like he keeps upping the difficulty on his own work, with a complexity pile that doesn't stop getting taller.
There's a pretty fine line between self-sabotage and handicapping yourself, then failing. I think that ultimately Hussie wanted to make something good. If he thought the "gay singularity" was an acceptable risk, that he would be able to overcome it despite being such a bad idea, then frankly he's a moron. But I think the more likely explanation is just that he thought it was a good idea to begin with.

>>88955953
people won't pay for normal fanart
if you want to make money on commissions you have to cater to giant throbbing dog dick enthusiasts

>>88955953
Dog dick is nothing new anon.

>>88956038
Well it's shitty.

>>88955738
>When Andrew first asked other artists to draw assets.
now that you mention it, yeah, that's a pretty significant turning point
though it's kind of difficult to swallow because there's a lot of great moments after that, like Descend

>>88956054
We know.

>>88956054
So is the giant curvy milf that these threads try to push.
Jade should be like, small and cute. Jade's whole shitck is to be cute.

>>88955530
>Davekat

Not supporting the Davejade shitposters, but that pairing should belong in the trash.

>>88956165
Space powers anon. Jade's insecurities caused her to use her space powers to make herself super curvy.

>>88956187
see >>88956135

>>88956165
Whatever body types are in the comic are canon. I fucking love huge tits, don't get me wrong, but when someone pushes for >>88955090 like it COULD be true sets off my autism.

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>>88955822
Get that shit outta here.

>>88956233
>Whatever body types are in the comic are canon

Right, so small and cute. And probably has a nice butt, like Terezi.

>>88956233
>like it COULD be true

Have you SEEN mom? Those hips could crush a watermelon baby.

>>88956321
small, cute, has a nice butt, 13 years old whoops what

>>88956356
>13 years old
20 years old. Do you even pay attention or do you just sit there being fucking stupid?

>>88956369
I am rolling my eyes right now. I am describing my expression to you in text like characters in homestuck do.

Terezi was, like, 12 years old when depicted in the "blind girl has nice butt" meme

>>88956448
So suddenly she stopped having a nice ass at 20?

>>88956457
stranger things have happened to kids with nice butts

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>>88955822
So proud of my baby boi.

>>88956242
BTFO into the Blind Eternities , bitch.

>>88956476
>stranger things have happened to kids with nice butts
Words to live by.

>>88947239
> I love to hurt myself by going on Tumblr
No better than going on tumblr unironically.

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>>88956503

>>88956521
Jade's hunch and skinny legs
Why did so many boys like her?

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>>88956583

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>*angry cuck screams in the background*

>>88956628
She's got an enthusiastic happy personality, the kind that makes you want to dick her into unconsciousness
But actually it's because Jade thinks Dave is actually cool and they're both furries, was nice to Tavros and he's a bitch, and because Eridan and Karkat are desperate.

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>>88956665
1S TH1S YOU?

>>88956665
>Terezi would rather sleep with Tavros than with a manlet

>>88956703
are those really the only four characters to hit on her
where's the chart

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>>88946939

>>88951439
No it wasnt, it broke a lot of rules like ghosts being mind controlling players outside the bubble and vice-versa, ghosts using psychic powers on real world objects, also that bullshit rose death andrew had to write two paragraphs to justify.

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>>88956771
Well I mean for relevant guys who actually would talk to her that leaves John and Jake (who are related to her), Dirk (who is gay), Equius (who only has eyes for Aradia), Sollux (who only seems to have eyes for Feferi), and Gamzee (who is... well, yeah).
Nepeta tried to furry RP with her, but I'm gonna say that probably wasn't hitting on her.

>>88956849
Fair enough, but the parts where the original kids were interacting with the new session were actually good, in terms of dialogue and humor. And it had some nice aesthetic touches, like the glitched Gold Pilot flash and the series of events setting the stage for the battle over the lava pit in Game Over.

>>88956771
Not many people actually flirt all that much with a wide range of people in Homestuck. Jade's still like one of the most desirable girls in Homestuck on a per-flirt range, so there must be something attracting all the guys to her.

>>88956651
Vriska was a member of the aristocracy like Equius, right? Her blood was nearly as blue as his... whats the cut off point? Is it Gamzee, Equius, and Vriska in the land dwelling nobility?

>>88956788
Holy shit, and I thought my chart was hard to read. JFC.

I'm gonna try and sift through this but damn this looks like too much effort.

PAGE OF DOOM REPORTING IN. POST your titles assholes. Let's see you plays a game or suffers through a dead session like Act 6.

>>88957030
She's cute and sweet.
Did you not know that girl in high school that was nice to everyone and maybe wasn't that attractive but a bunch of guys wanted to date her because she was sweet? That is a thing.

>>88957050
I wouldn't say Vriska is nobility. Her caste doesn't directly serve Gamzee's caste. They're probably mostly bureaucratic management types like tealbloods.

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>>88957072
Woops.

>>88957103
Aren't tealbloods royalty? I swore there's a conversation where someone calls Terezi nobility and she's like "Yeah but I'm not really into the whole aristocracy shit, I'm more of a slut than a noble"

>>88957096
>Katnep
Shittier than Tavris!

I can't believe Trizza's last name is a discworld reference. God dammit, they don't deserve to reference things that good anymore.

>>88957170
Hussie did say he had read it and made several jokes about it.

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>>88957050
>>88957103
>CT: D --> Use your cunning and venom to make them envy our nobility

>>88957103
>>88957132
The Vriska / Terezi portion of the hemospectrum in regards to power / level of aristocracy is always been murky to me. I need more equius interactions with them to figure out where they stand.

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>>88956788
We'll I've read it. And it's shit.

Gonna dump now

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>>88957309

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>he wouldn't kill everybody else in his session

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>>88957353

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>>88957377
Better.

>>88957276
I guess lawyers would be considered nobility in a lot of cases so yeah maybe Terezi is up there too

>>88957365
SPOOKS

>>88957276
She's lower upper class. Vriska is upper class, Equius upper upper class, and then we get straight royalty

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>>88957309
>shit
>the best and most elaborate classpect theory of all time
https://wizardglyph.tumblr.com

>>88956521
She'll fill out after a few pups.

>>88958172
More like die in childbirth because she's skinny and small.

>>88958352
The term is petite.

VRISKA IS A FAT DUMB BITCH!

>>88958884
The term is petite.

>>88958172
Why do you want Jade to have kids so badly? It's kind of misogynstic.

>>88955738
>sole person
you forget that he has always relied on others for the music

>>88959412
okay I'll bite
why is it misogynistic to imagine a character having kids?
I mean keep in mind that this is something both boys and girls do a lot. Male pregnancy, despite its supernatural elements, is so popular among women that it's basically a whole genre of fanwork.

>>88951135
Easy. Just watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brTcai-9TfQ
At x2 speed if you're in a hurry. Pause the video every now and then if necessary.
Watch closely: every second or so, mutter "still good" to yourself. The moment it feels wrong is the exact point. For me, it's definitely the Trickster arc and Retcon Quest. So, late Act 6.

Of course a lot of people will say early Act 6 (and its horrible slow pace) and late Act 6 (everything beyond Game Over).
But I think the seeds of corruption were planted back in Act 5. Murderstuck was a sign that the comic's tone had changed a lot and that Hussie was alright with DAOOTSing protagonists with no closure on the basis on them being jokes. And even earlier, troll romance was the first sign the comic would be going to shit, even if it took a long, long time.

>>88959587
Or just wanting a guy to be a dad.

>>88959619
Yeah, of course. My point wasn't meant to be about pregnancy in particular, but I wanted to highlight mpreg because of the bizarreness of the phenomenon.

>>88959587
It reduces women to nothing but breeders.

>>88955182
>Why are you still here, /hst/?
For the same reason people visit a dead loved one's tomb.

Except here we had a fake funeral and we don't know if the comic has lost its spark for good or not.
So we can never get closure.

>>88959733
That's not the appeal here, though. Breeder Jade isn't an indiscriminate fetish hitting a random character. It's a meme founded in lore and symbolism, from several disparate elements of Homestuck's story. It's impossible to reduce away Jade's personality because it's an essential piece of the fantasy.

>>88956849
>that bullshit rose death andrew had to write two paragraphs to justify.
was there any other time in the story he had to write a newspost because of how people reacted to an update?

>>88959733
Not him, but you do realize that's the whole fucking point of existing right? Having offspring is why we exist.

Saying that you think you'd like a character to have kids isn't reducing them to breeders. It's just wanting them to experience parenthood and be a parent.

If I were to ask tell someone they'd be a good parent, it's not just reducing them to their ability to procreate. Thinking so is just purposefully ignorant.

God damn, I'm responding to this fucking bait and I can't help myself.

It's just a meme anyways. If it seriously upsets you, you might want to leave considering that's one of the tamer memes here on HST/HSG.

>>88959901
Sure, if you include his forum posts, formspring answers, and tumblr posts. He didn't usually explain the story through newsposts but that's because he used to have other media for that.

>>88959807
Also because it's cute to imagine Jade fawning over her adorable mutant spawn and being a good mom.

>>88955807
Turning something to shit on purpose is no different than turning something to shit by accident and says the same thing about the culprit, just like how there's no difference between being a complete moron and only pretending.

>>88956583
>Died
>Still had a better character arc than any character in the comic except maybe Roxy or Dave
Tavros was one of the only satisfying things about present Homestuck.

>>88956651
>Nevermelt
That thread was a lot of fun, wasn't it?

>>88959956
>Sure, if you include his forum posts, formspring answers, and tumblr posts.
eh, I meant specifically newsposts, only other time I can think of him reacting to fan reactions was when he hastily promsied an epilogue like 30 minutes after act 7 hit

>>88959945
*If I were to tell someone

Additionally, it's probably just someone's fetish for pregnant women. And trying to entirely ignore sexual desires and demonize these hypotheticals by saying they are objectification is also very stupid.

>>88959963
And Dave learning to be satisfied and finding how much he likes being a dad.

>>88960125
>EPILOGUE SOON
I can't believe it's been nearly a fucking year and all we got was pitiful "post-canon content" and the overly optimistic hope that Hiveswap won't be forgettable at best.

>>88960195
Who wouldn't be a good parent out of the humans?

>>88960245
Rose, Dirk, Jake

>>88960245
It's a matter of him learning how he likes fatherhood, that it fufills that need for a normal family and a stable life.

>>88960300
I think Jake could be a good parent if he had someone sensible to corral him. I figure he's caring enough and is warm enough to be loved as a parent. And while I don't think they would make good parents Rose and Dirk could at least be interesting as an aunt/uncle.

>>88960398
Dirk'd make a great uncle grandpa.

>>88947946
>Caliborn is basically young Anakin Skywalker, in that we didn't need to have a movie focused on him to understand Darth Vader. In fact, it cheapened Darth Vader.
If young Anakin acted anything like Caliborn the prequels would have been fucking incredible. Now I'm sad that you made me imagine something that can never exist.

>>88960398
Jake doesn't need corraling, he's brain damaged. It's the fact he doesn't have the mental ability for that responsibility

>>88960660
Oh come on now. He'll be much better when he wisens up a bit. That simply takes time.

>>88960385
And also having a tot clinging to him, wide-eyed and thinking he's just the coolest.

>>88960714
>>88960398
> lets kid!Jade play with shotgun

>>88960660
jake is fine
john regularly goes into autism berserker mode and nobody ever says he'd be a bad parent

>>88960977
funny how the only kids we can say wouldn't be abusive/neglectful parents are the ones that we never saw do any parenting

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Andrew Hussie is a self-loathing betacuck numale whose been emotionally castrated by Halftruth and literally castrated by IPGD. All of his friends and employees are SJWs who demonize men and it comes through in his writing of all male Homestuck characters been wimpy and emotionally broken and the female characters as strong independent women who don't need no man.

>>88961344
You could have made that post twice as long if you used more buzzwords.
I'm ashamed on your behalf that you didn't even mention Antarctica.

>>88943467
The worst, shittiest fanfiction you have ever seen.

>>88961583
it's not even fanfiction, twitterman's not even a fan

>>88961023
Because they seem like they would be now

Is Strife II out yet?

>>88947436
>and then it went FUCKING NOWHERE
it succeeded in destroying two universes and killing everyone any of the survivors knew except 3 people.
roses quest was to do something humiliating and unpleasant simply because an authority figure told her to, because it knew better than her.
in her refusal, she, not sburb is responsible for the destruction of the universe.

>>88945456
the Doom panel will never not make me giggle.

>>88962159
how is it her fault if she was destined to fuck it up anyway
how is anything anyone's fault? sburb did it, the only person responsible for their own actions is john and even then it's questionable

>>88962543
nope John's actions are predetermined just like anyone else's

retcon powers are indistinguishable from time travel and teleportation that is just really far-reaching and easy to use

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>>88959901
>was there any other time in the story he had to write a newspost because of how people reacted to an update?

>>88960936
Even small children know Dave is a idiot dork

>>88964178
Dave's child would love him and think he's the tony hawk of gods.

>>88964241
But Tony Hawk isn't cool

>>88962543
Rose should be dragged, kicking and screaming, into a position to do her quest.

>>88964480
>Tony Hawk isn't cool

When you're a three year old he totally is. Dave, similarly, would be super cool to his child, which makes him even more actually lame, because only literal babies find him cool.