What was his endgame?

Maintain the status quo, since he already has everything.

>Onceler fucks up everything
>O'Hare builds a company in the environment provided for him and thrives
>O'Hare is somehow the villain for wanting to maintain the economic ecosystem in which he lives

>>88939026
Why is he a black haird dylan roof?

>>88939026
This nigga was the embodiment of the idea of the shyster.

Literally sold air.

>>88939026
this meme sucks

>>88939384
The movie sucsk, the guys retarded ass design as a meme doesnt

>>88939384
YOU GREEDY DIRTBAG

>>88939409
you're retarded

>>88939364
>This nigga was the embodiment of the idea of the shyster.

>Literally sold water/energy/food

Air is a commodity in Thneedville, its not his fault someone else destroyed the environment

>>88939434
Wow great comeback faggot

>>88939522
But you're retarded

>>88939208
Selfishness is generally considered bad, yes.

>>88939558
>its selfish to preserve the environment in which you thrive

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>Liberals demand to let trees grow again
>Due to the Onceler's mistakes and pollution of the environment, tree's might not even survive in this new land.
>Even blocks out civilians from leaving for their own good and survival
>Builds company to sell clean air and provide for the people of Thneedville, also gives thousands of people jobs
>Due to the boycott from liberals the company will be in ruins, people will lose their jobs and will have to breath in polluted air
>Thneedville is basically fucked

Literally did nothing wrong.

>>88939578
Putting your desires before those of others is the literal definition of selfishness.

Surprised Let It Die wasn't a meme before now

>>88939654
So you're saying that he should just fuck his entire company because some hippies want to grow trees? If he was the one who got rid of all the trees you might have a point, but he isn't

sell everyone something they should get for free

>>88939026
Get rich as fuck.

He did that, then Thneedville kicked him out at the end, which means... he's still rich as fuck, but now has to move and invest in some new startups or buy some shares in another company, enough to move up the corporate ladder and use his previous universal rule experience to become a CEO of some other high yield company.

Meanwhile, Thneedville collapses, their trees don't grow back fast enough to make air, so they have to leave, and now are jobless, homeless, and without a future.

This movie is kinda darker than the original.

>>88939702
He should see that his actions are harmful and stop. Use his vast resources to pursue other business.

>>88939732
If something becomes scarce your right to it does as well

Food and water are not free, yet you absolutely need them

I want communists to leave

>>88939702
honestly, he could have simply rebranded
use his resources and money to become an environmental company and help the trees thrive, allowing him to keep his profits as well as public opinion

>>88939778
>>88939785
>he should just revamp his entire company because not doing that is SELFISH and therefore evil

I'd say its like I'm arguing with children, but this is a thread about a children's movie so I guess I shouldn't have expected otherwise

>>88939827
It is literally selfish of him to keep the wotld polluted so that he can continue to profit off it. This is pretty straightfoward.

Guy is literally a zillionaire. He's not some poor man desperately fighting to survive.

>Waaaah muh liberals
>Waaaah free market means I can do whatever i want
>Waaaah people with money are always right and know the best for us rednecks
This MUST be shitposting.
Americans cannot physically be this dum-
>Remember the elections
Oh right.

I fucking hate this movie so much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V06ZOQuo0k

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>>88940844
>>Remember the elections
(ゆー)

What's with all the Lorax threads lately? Is there a meme now, like the Bee Movie?

>>88941050

How bad me be

>>88939827
The guy is keeping the town in a perpetual state of pollution where basic things such as fresh air are not potable. It's not like he remained an opportunistic businessman his entire run, he was well-aware that his bottling factories polluted the air even further and wanted to keep opening more factories for that purpose.

He doesn't even have anything else to gain. O'Hare has total control of the town down to the point it's almost an Orwellian society. There are no outsiders who come to provide the town of basic needs, everything is artificial and gets recycled over and over again. There is no more money to gain from people who are already in your control. So yes, he's being a selfish and petty manlet for not letting the people keep the trees.

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>>88941115
Yeah, the people that were making all those Bee Movie and We Are Number One videos began using the Let It Grow song.

>>88941295
Next they'll use "That's my horse"

>>88941115
It's really awkward seeing all these secondhand tumblr jokes on 4chan

>>88939780
Capoie scum shouldnt be able to claim rights to a nessecity. You greddy fucks should be hung for ruining the world

>at no point do Once-ler's family suffer any comeuppance

Why?

>>88941654
Make the short midget who took advantage of other people's stupidity the bad guy.

At the end of the movie, the guy is still filthy rich and the mayor of the town. He'll just invest in other shit while the town loses jobs to plant trees and stuff. Not that planting trees is wrong but midget is certainly not the loser in this movie.

>>88939026
Look at this dude...

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>>88941523
Somebody please do this. At least this is meme worthy.

>>88941784
That's my horse but every horse is replaced with a Jojoke.

>>88941767
THAT I JUST FOUND

>>88941069
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpgUQYARIsw

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>>88941871
I don't think I've ever seen something as cynical as this in my life

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>>88941871
im fine

>>88939734
I don't understand, was every tree in the entire world cut down, or just the truffula trees?

Even before O'Hare left, what was the economy of the town even composed of? Air production?

With the return of Truffula trees, then the town can create a profitable forestry business, perhaps supplemented by tourism?

Really, the moral of the movie should be for businesses to look into long term rather than short term gains. If O'Hare had accepted and monopolized the Truffula trees and trade, he could have become far richer. Instead he saw the short term gain by destroying a rival to his air production businesses. Similar concept with the Once-ler. Rather than taking time and investing in sustainable forestry for his truffula trees, he just demolished the entire forest for maximum short term profit.

I honestly thought "How bad can I be" is actually catchy. The rest of the movie is meh and I kind of rather forget about it.

>>88939026
Y O U G R E E D Y D I R T B A G

>>88940844
>muh rednecks

>>88942244
O'Hare is still stupid rich, it's never too late for him to start reallocating.

The citizens are stupid anyway.

>>88942244
>the moral of the movie should be for businesses to look into long term rather than short term gains.
That is the fucking point of the story. In the original animated version (not sure about the book), the Once-ler points out that just shutting down everything would put hundreds of people out of work, and the Lorax says that he has a valid point and that there could be a compromise that allows the company and the forest to coexist. Being capitalist isn't inherently evil, it's when you're shortsighted and don't bother looking at the effects of your actions that causes problems.

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>>88939591
>Even blocks out civilians from leaving for their own good and survival

He was trying to make enough money to biologically engineer super algae to save the planet.

>>88942244
Kinda like how some automakers and fossil fuel industries are trying to legislate EVs and renewables out of existence while the smart ones are branching out?

>>88944509
I'm talking about the new cgi movie, which has retarded morals.

His endgame was to sell Seuss merch till the fad dries up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtmnG-N0YzU

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>>88946565
As much as I think NC fucking sucks, hes actually right on this

The Lorax was a lot more well written then people give it credit for, and the new movie basically shits all over what made it importiant

>>88939591
>Even blocks out civilians from leaving for their own good and survival

>basic human rights is now considered liberal

I want /pol/ to fuck off

DUDE MEME LMAO

>>88939208
>>88939591
Wouldn't moving away from the polluted enviroment be a safer option?

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>yfw you realize O'Hare is the animated embodiment of the ancap ball

>>88939208
This is some Skeet level shit

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>tfw some pubertaunte's thirst for petite hippie puss puss fucked over your business and put you out on the street because someone else fucked over the environment years ago and you found a way to capitalize on it while keeping everyone alive and blissfully ignorant until some art student's luster started preaching against it

Taylor Swift Who is the real villain

>>88940844
>reminder that the scandinavian countries originally grew their wealth their extremely light economic regulations and not cause muh socialism
>reminder that money is increasingly running out due to refugees and massive overspending
>reminder that tomorrow's swedish children will be paying the same tax rate just to pay off the debt.

>>88941821
I wish we got this instead. It's like it's from a better movie.

He's a job creator. Grade A American. We need more people like that.

I'm annoyed by how shallow and poorly thought out the movie is, even for a kids movie. Dozens of anon posts completely tear apart the world of he story, and nobody's even reaching that hard or over-analyzing to do so. Just basic common sense Illumination either forgot about or simply ignored.

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>The Original Book as a perfect strucutre demonstrating the Onceler's fall

>The first time the Lorax tries to change his mind, the Lorax tries to tell him nobody will buy his Thneeds. The Lorax is incorrect because someone does and this functions to demonstrate that just because someone's wrong about something doesn't mean they're wrong about everything but it also makes sense as to why the Onceler ignores his advice at this point

>The Second Time, the Lorax demonstrates how his success has hurt the native group of Bears. The Onceler shows remorse at his actions, but then justifies it because it becomes a conflict between his happiness vs the bears happiness and it's human nature to preserve yourself first.

>The third time, the Lorax makes evident that the Onceler has fucked over both the Fish and the Swans. At this point the Onceler can't morally defend himself because he's fucked over 3 different groups and morally it's no longer a 1 for 1 scenario and the pain he's causing is more than the happiness he's creating. So he doesn't rationally defend his actions he just gets angry.

>The final conversation isn't even a conversation as the Onceler has finally realized his error, but far too late to change anything, so theirs no point in communication anymore. The Lorax leaves his final world and the Onceler is forced to face the consequences of his actions

It's fucking basic shit but it's fundamentally great because of that since you can connect this to anything thematically and make it work.

The unheeded warning that seems stupid.
Trying to balance what's right and wrong.
Losing any sense of rationality.
Realization after the fall as you reach the lowest point with no hope in sight

AND THEY FUCK IT UP

>>88941069
>literally cuts a tree in half
is the oncler fucking /fit/?

>>88949714

> black and white environment message
>Muh Taylor Swift
>Muh quirky grandma
>animal characters that make retarded noises
>Cap-capitalism is bad!
>They proceed to whore out the brand
>songs that completely lack subtety

It may be the single most cynical, pandering, cash-grab in that generation of films. Minions weren't even this bad, or at least weren't as openly contradicting the message of the original content.

Ironically, the O'Hare Air commercial might have been the only kind of funny part in the film.

>>88939026
never watched this movie, am I missing out on anything or should I just enjoy the memes?

>>88950046
Bee Movie at least had a few aspects going for it.

The Lorax will be, if it isn't alrady, a dated, broken, first or second draft-tier bore.

>>88941871
>That angry-ass looking fish holding up the "truffula tree friendly" sign

The cg modelers knew.

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LET IT SHRIVEL UP AND

>>88941871

How could they even put something like this into the movie without a shred of fucking irony

>>88950412
Money makes the world go round anon.

>>88950046
Garbage movie, ruins Suess's message and turns it into genetic kids movie. Meme's brought it back.
Animation is good and I'll say that "How Bac Can I Be?" Is pretty fucking catchy.

>>88947107
>basic human rights
nonexistenting bullshit

https://youtu.be/QRTuhC3qHsQ

>>88947085
It bothers me that NC didn't even give the movie credit for the things it did right. Humanizing the Once-Ler was the one good decision it made.

>>88949941
You want to hear something really upsetting? This is from four years ago, when production on the new Grinch movie started.

http://www.firstshowing.net/2013/universal-and-illumination-remaking-how-the-grinch-stole-christmas/

>Variety reports How the Grinch Stole Christmas is on the docket for an animated adaptation that will be more faithful to the book, which actually lends itself better to the three act structure of a film, making it so less original material has to be created to pad out a feature film adaptation

Illumination never even saw how Lorax had a 3 act structure, or so they claim.

Steal sega dreamcasts

>>88939702
>>88939591
Dude literally runs a plastic factory (bottling plant) in a world where everything is made of plastic.

Repurposing assets would be piss-easy for him.

>>88939785
Wouldn't have even had to rebrand. His company is already known for clean air ffs. O'Hare could have easily made bank off of a new tree trend.

>start a tree planting venture
>buy all the shit land outside of town
>sell tree "adoption" certificates to Thneedvillers
>when people start going on tree-sighting vacations in 10 years you then make extra bank on running tours

O'Hare was an idiot for only thinking about next quarter instead of even thinking one year into the future.

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>Waaah muh capitalism justifies everything!
Greedy dirtbags everywhere in this thread, I see.

>>88949996
Yeah, he's all arms.

>>88951974
"gender is a social construct"-tier

>Hair makes his face into the shape of a downwards pointing arrow

What did they mean by this?

>>88939026
That's the guy from the wind rises

>>88939654
Its not selfish, he has an obligation to his shareholders and everyone who works for him

>>88955694
O'Hare's stocks