/a/ consistently calls the greatest Japanese animator to ever

Walt Disney was a corny, self-obsessed manchild who loved trains and not having to do actual work.

But his work as an animator was unique and spawned a beautiful age of animation.

>>88920373
>So I'd like to know if /co/ is just as retarded as /a/ and ask what /co/ thinks of the greatest western animator to ever live.
Nick Park?

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Who is the Tommy Wiseau of animation?

>>88920509
The guys who made The Nutshack.

>>88920373
Walt Disney was a business man who stopped directing animation after The Golden Touch (because it was a dogshit that he regretted).
His skills weren't the best but he saw the massive potential in animation which led to works like Fantasia.

>>88920373
Despite whatever his personal stuff entails, he paved the way for animation, as well as entertainment in general, in a way no else ever did or has done since.

>>88920373
He was redpilled on the leftist infiltration of Hollywood.

>>88920509
Larry Kasanoff

>>88920591
I thought Goldy was a great character.

>>88920595
>Without Disney's Silly Symphonies, Warner Bros wouldn't have made Merry Melodies
>Osamu Tezuka the godfather of manga was heavily influenced by Carl Bark's Scrooge McDuck comics and Bambi to the point where he based Astro Boy's eyes on Bambi himself
>People like Don Bluth and Ralph Bakshi wouldn't have been inspired to be animators

>>88920725
*on Bambi's

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>>88920509
Sam Singer
He's been called the "Ed Wood of animation"

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He became less of an artist and his production insight dwindled later in his career.

>>88920817
Walt doesn't strike me as the pedo type, he was way too conservative for that.

>>88920934
He's an artist though. Everyone knows they're all pedophiles which was why he said that to Ollie.

>>88920373
>So I'd like to know if /co/ is just as retarded as /a/ and ask what /co/ thinks of the greatest western animator to ever live.
Ray Harryhausen?

>>88920450
Hey, Ward Kimball loved trains and was pals with Roberts Armstrong AND Crumb and dug their fucking work! Disney was the Stan Lee of animation....probably the best Yank to ever do it was Windsor McKay.

So who does /a/ think this "hack" of a greatest Japanese animator is? Miyazaki? If so...I can confidently declare that that board is full of cunts

>>88920373
I think Winsor McCay is fairly well liked around here.

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>>88922621
It's either Miyazaki, Anno or Tezuka. Calling any of them hacks would be going too far imo, but it's /a/ we're talking about.

>>88922816
Pft, TEZUKA?! Fuck outta here. That's what happens when you have a load of people who fall in love with surface styles n' tics. Calling those three "hacks" is literally sacrilege and punishable by fingernail removal

t. not a weeaboo by any stretch of the imagination but got much respect for the pioneers/innovators

>>88922621
They're probably butthurt that he called cookie cutter moe waifushit garbage.

>>88920373

Disney sucks. Miyazaki is good, I don't know anything about /a/ it does seem like one of the shittier boards on 4chan so I don't know why I would care about their opinions. It's not like they like anything that isn't pedo shit.

>>88922621
>So who does /a/ think this "hack" of a greatest Japanese animator is?
Probably because of Miyazaki's views regarding the anime industry and otaku.

>>88922959
Exactly. ANYONE who disrespects the pioneers in ANY medium, whether they're to your taste or not, is a fucking pleb who needs Torquemada setting on they ass

>>88920373
>/a/ consistently calls the greatest Japanese animator to ever live a "hack"

Tezuka?

>>88920817
>>88920934
>>88921001
It's a weird comment, but it makes sense in the context of the scene. She's supposed to look seductive because she's meant to awaken Mowglis manhood in ways the jungle never could.

>>88920373
Who do they call a hack? Tezuka? Miyazaki?

>>88920934
Conservative in that ara didn't meant much thing. Walt was kind of Immature and fanciful person (a sperg like people would say today) with little touch with reality.

>>88922816
Anno IS a fucking hack though

>>88922621
>>88922816
>>88923180
>>88923268

Miyazaki.

>>88923427
The Japanese Alan Moore?
I could see /a/ calling him a hack

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>>88923427
>Miyazaki

Meh, i can live with this!

Normies really make him bigger than he really is

>>88923459
More like the anime John K. Alan is still more grounded in reality

>>88923488
Fuck off with yer normies, dude. I'll bet a penny to a pound I was reading fucking manga before you were fucking born. I was born in comics, moulded by comics. I didn't see a book without pictures until I was already a man.

>>88920373
Disney was redpilled, too bad his company isn't.

>>88922816
Anno really is a hack though

>>88922816
Anno is probably the Bob Kane of /a/, no actual talent but he created something of huge cultural importance and thus is revered.

>>88920373
>greatest western animator to ever live
That was Chuck Jones.

Disney first and foremost industrialized animation and escalated it from being purely quirk-factor entertainment to most audiences.

>>88920817
He's not wrong.

>>88922935
>>88924177
>Anno
Anno isn't really a good show runner though. He is an AMAZINGLY talented visual director.

>>88923488
I respect Miyazaki in that he's woke af to the fact that too much of the animation industry has degenerated into autismos trying to pander to their perceived audiences instead of trying to tell decent stories.

He considers himself a "filmmaker" rather than an "animator," you know.

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>>88923427
Miyazaki is a lovable misanthrope

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>>88922816
Why does /a/ hate Miyazaki so much?

>>88920373
>super capitalist
>got people arrested that dare criticize him by calling them a commie
>super pc and prudish
>only wanted shitty musicals and princess movies
>inplying anything but him being a massive hack

>>88924865
>super pc
not really

>>88920817
>designer creates a clearly sexually charged scene

>gets called out on it by the boss himself

>"he's such a pedo man I can't believe it"

whoever that was, they clearly didn't get it.

>>88924931
>no sex, graphic violance, or anything disrespectful to his mostly WASP white collar audiance

>>88924067
Agreed his only good work is Neon Evangelion and Gunbuster.

>>88924931
Disney's MO was and is taking folklore, myth, timeless stories and culture and dumbing them down and removing anything that might make a child think.

Go look at the stories that most of the movies pull from, Disney guts the shit out of them.

>>88925044
Lowest common denominator is always more profitable than making kids think and that's all Disney cares about, money.

>>88924951
Why shouldn't that scene have been sexually charged? Did you understand the movie?

>>88920509
>makes something awful that gets a cult following
Rebecca Sugar

>>88925175 Did you read his post?

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>>88920509

whoever made Foodfight!

>>88924931
As a person he wasn't very pc, but his products had to be squeaky clean.

>>88924865
>super capitalist

Used all his money in movies and the park, all for business and lived a regular life

>got people arrested that dare criticize him by calling them a commie

Cold War

>super pc and prudish

Never make someone less talented

>only wanted shitty musicals and princess movies

And other gazillion works that you are too lazy to google


You need to stop reading the half ass trues that the goyim keep repeating on their blogs about how Walt hurt their feelings when he stated that they were ruining hollywood. That by the way, they did! Half of the capitalist crap that Disney did was way after Waltz death, who would rather go bankrupt several times than making a half baked movie

>>88924993
>>88925044
>>88925139

>Violence and sex make kids think

OK

https://youtu.be/eLhld_PI2zg

>>88925405
It can yes.

Are you challenged in some way?

Have you not read a book in a while?

>>88920373
>>88920450
He wasn't an animator you fucking morons.

>>88923117
>>88922935
I assume you retards worship John K as well.

>>88925355
>Never make someone less talented

Why are you speaking as if Walt had any talent whatsoever or was personally involved in any artistic endeavor? He was literally a wealthy idea guy. That is not talent. Calling that talent is an insult to people with talent. Please go fuck yourself with a rake and die in agony.

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>>88925044
>There are people in this board that still think like this

This "timeless stories" were nothing more than shitty five page stories to scare childrem to behave or else they would have to use hot iron shoes. Walt just put music, colors and substance in these so kids could still have a good time and learn the same morals. You don't need sex to teach about love, you don't death to make a scary story.

Making kids belive that they will die or be tortured for behaving bad isn't making they think, just teaching they to conform

>>88920373
Disney made five master pieces early in his career. Most people don't even get one. He also pushed what you could do in animation. Furthermore, the success of Mickey Mouse is hard to get now, but Mickey was a character on the level of Harry Potter or Indiana Jones in terms of popularity when he premiered. It was only once Disney started having huge success that he started playing it safe and became the Walt Disney character that was so sanitized.

>>88925470
Anything can make kids think, putting edgy stuff just make they more messed. You need efford, not act without control

>>88925552

Talent is not aways related to "making the art", the opposite of this in fact. A idea, a concept and a process is what make the best of a piece.

>>88925567
>substance

Yeah, no. Disney movies are products and nothing more, they removed the cultural ties that the stories had and are simply selling it off to the lowest common denominator.

You can't be this oblivious.

>>88925567
>>88925646
Man, /co/ is fucking retarded.

>>88920373
>/a/ consistently calls the greatest Japanese animator to ever live a "hack."
I don't think many on /a/ know who Yoshinori Kanada is.

>>88925646
>putting edgy stuff just make they more messed. You need efford, not act without control

you're making vague generalized statements and when I called you out on it, you pretend like we're talking about specific edgy-type content.


>Talent is not aways related to "making the art", the opposite of this in fact. A idea, a concept and a process is what make the best of a piece.

EXACTLY. So how the hell are you defending Disney movies that gut content, history and culture? Never mind if the parts cut were violent or sexual, much of the ideas removed are not, and they just made people think.

Disney Movies are beautiful. But many of them end there. What we end up getting is a parody of the original story and whatever tie-in products they are trying to sell.

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>>88925355
>>88925470
>>88925552
>>88925676
>>88925686

>>88925786
>I've lost the argument(s) and can't defend my brand any longer!

>I must now post image macros to defend my shallow shilling for Disney!

>>88920450
>not having to do actual work

He was an obsessive compulsive worker. He only went to his trains because he was forced out the office for overworking all his employees. And only then he just got obsessed over his trains and created Disneyland so he'd have a lot more work to do.

>>88920817
>>88920817
>insight dwindled

Sounds perfectly insightful to me.

>>88925355
Everything he made during his reign was either a musical or some kiddie shit dull cartoon with no substance because looney tunes was too "impure" for him. Also, being pc and prudish automatically makes you entirelly shit, go fuck yourself /pol/ack.

>>88924776
Because he see through them and tells it like it is, and if there's one thing /a/ hates, it's their unhealthy obsession for shitty shows that only sell because they have cute girls being exposed for how shit it truly is.

>>88924931
>not really
>PC'd the shit out of Snow White and Pinnochio
Yes really.

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>>88920450
>>88922621
Ward Kimball was a hilarious little scamp

>>88923385
Hey mother fucker! Anno made 1 good series years ago and then came back and redid that exact same series. Just recently he took godzilla and did a remake of that too with his name slapped on it. The man is a visionary

>>88926207

Anno also made Nadia which was good (except for the island arc which I think was JC Staff's fault) and some other series and OVAs that aren't super popular but are good.

>>88926207
The recent Godzilla is a very different spin on the basic premise than the first one. The first one was a nuclear commentary, through and through. From Godzilla being a result of the bombs and the way to defeat him igniting the usual argument about nuclear usage and deterrents.

Shin Godzilla is more about natural disasters and how Japan responds to them as a group. The first movie ends with one man's scientific breakthrough killing Godzilla. Shin Godzilla ends with an entire army of people having to handle a large scale industrial response that only manages to halt, not remove, the threat.

The cinematography is also pretty different too.

>>88926031
>disney
>pc

good one

>>88926136
>PC'd

You mean bowdlerized? Removing the rape and murder? Because that's not what PC means at all.

Are you fucking 12?

>>88926356
>Removing the rape and murder?
Its butchering art to appeal to the unwashed masses so yes

>>88926136
>>88926365
>What is Hays Code?

>>88926400
irrelevant.

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>>88920373
>/a/ consistently calls the greatest Japanese animator to ever live a "hack."

But /a/ likes Yutaka Nakamura.

>>88920373
/a/ is butthurt at Miyazaki because he calls out loser otaku fagbuckets for what they are.

>>88926425
For all the Disney adaptations until the 60s, it's very relevant to the topic of removing the rape and murder.

>>88925044
That was because he knew what it was like to be poor as fuck (a lot of his earliest animations are lost because they didn't make him any money) and didn't want to upset audiences by showing Goldilocks getting impaled on a steeple.

Also one of the early Mickey Mouse shorts had Mickey painted in fucking blackface doing a satirical performance of Uncle Tom's Cabin.

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>>88920373
>Miyazaki
>greatest Japanese animator ever
Oh lordy.

>>88926517
Not really, you're using the very thing we're criticizing as your argument but didn't go any further.

It comes out like this,
>why do we keep censoring or gutting stories?
>"because Hays code"
>but why? why should we censor works or follow vague guidelines that support propaganda or straight up false content?
>"because hays code"

It isn't even the same conversation.

>>88926639
If you had any knowledge of Hays Code, you'd know the exact context of why things got censored back then. Whether Disney would've changed the stories or adapt them faithfully, said code sure as hell wouldn't allow them to follow those stories faithfully because it wouldn't meet their standards and regulations that controlled Hollywood in that era. The rules were set in place to establish a moral code to make the reputation of Hollywood more family friendly after it was known for being unmoderated in the 20s.

After the 60s, who knows what Disneys excuse was, but the previous reply cited Snow White and Pinnochio, which were the 40s.

>>88926558
I'm not sure what the point is here.

He censored is work because people were poor? What is the logic here? It's like a half thought.

I know why he catered to the mass audience, but it doesn't make it right and it certainly doesn't make the piece(s) better, if even good at all.

>>88920817
I can only think of two other words to describe it and I don't think 'cute' or 'beautiful' would have been all that better.

>>88926680
>It isn't even the same conversation.

I'm gonna repeat this simply because you're having a different conversation than what was being had and then feigning relevance.


We KNOW Disney is censored, we know WHY it is censored/PC but the people we were replying to didn't believe that it is.

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>>88920373
>Miyazaki
>greatest Japanese animator

Better animators than him have worked on his films senpai.

>>88926764
They accused Walt of PCing the shit out of his stories, and I explained why he didn't. It's the same conversation, nothings being feigned here.

>>88926795

But he did. And Hays Code is now evidence for that.

Doesn't matter if he 'had to follow' those guidelines. Disney PC'd stories from other places, cultures, and dumbed them down for profit.

He could have only made original stories, in fact, one of the few that he actually came up with became a big hit and it followed the code. But he didn't. He chose to bring down stories because he knew he could dumb it down enough to make more money. He compensated the lack of content (and original content) with well-made animation.

It's pretty clear cut, Walt PC'd the stories he took which comes out to the bulk that the company ever made.

>>88926905
>Doesn't matter if he 'had to follow' those guidelines
No... it really does, because he sure as hell wouldn't have gotten anywhere if he didn't comply with those guidelines.

>>88920817
sounds like the old man was keeping it real.

>>88925506

He was but he quit the field early when he couldnt catch up with the quality anymore.

>>88926930

>broken record

I'm starting to wonder if you just haven't read posts.

You keep moving your case between "He didn't PC the work that he stole", and "he made more money this way".

This amounts to you shilling a company that steals work, dumbs it down, and that it is alright because the law allowed him to.

Not a very convincing argument.

>>88927061
I think you just don't understand that whether he wanted to keep the stories the way they originally were is irrelevant, because he wouldn't have been allowed to. That's a problem with Hollywood back then as a whole, and it's pointless to point at Disney alone for the bowdlerization. If anyones a broken record, it's you.

>>88926365
>butchering art

Ah, so you are 12 years old. A very edgy one too.

>>88926905

Theres a very simple reason for that. Disney always said that entertainment comes first, so that was the primary sensibility to keep in mind when they were making their films. The goal to make it as mainstream as possible.

And what stories do we all know and understand, even from different cultures? Fairy tales which are simple and universal in their appeal. That was the way they made their projects "safe" products to sell, despite them constantly experimenting with animation and what it can do. Theres no denying golden age Disney really was the pioneer of the field, animation everywhere still follows the basic principles learned during that era and yes that even means the softcore porn about little schoolgirls hugging each other that /a/ loves so much.

>>88920628
>larry kasanoff
The parallel works and isn't a lazy ass shot towards a popular thing, wow.

>>88926456
Nakamura is a one-note hack.

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>>88924331
This. His sense of pacing, visual direction, cinematography, and visual symbolism was tight shit. I liked the slow pacing of Eva, but most of his recent work is a lot more fast paced now.

>>88925567
>Making kids believe that they will die or be tortured for behaving bad isn't making they think, just teaching they to conform

It was a traditionally European thing to practice harsh discipline on children and teach them unquestioned obedience. In the 19th century, Europeans who visited the US were taken aback at the softness of American parents, and how it was more accepted here for children to question authority.

>>88925567
No it teased there are consequences for bed behavior, exaggerated for a kid to understand.

But I guess a story where the central point is it can be dangerous to speak to strangers teach kids to conform.

>>88920373
/a/ has way better tastes than /co/.

>>88922621
It is Miyazaki

>>88922959
But you know that he has hated anime industry since 70s

>>88924382
>Implying anime hasnt always been like that

>>88926112
Dude Miyazaki himself has thing for cute girls.

>>88922621
He's basically animes Alan Moore. Pioneer who did great works grew old and hates everything.

And oh wait, /co/ hates Alan Moore and calls him a hack too, just like you guys are criticizing /a/ for. Get over yourselves and stop pretending this board isn't just as bad.

>>88922816

/a/ doesnt actually watch asian animation past the softcore schoolgirl waifu shit. Once in a blue moon /co/ has an actually good thread about animation and its history which also discusses anime. /a/ has none of that shit because none of its denizens actually know anything about animation whatsoever. Its all waifus in /a/, nothing more.

>>88928179
Oh but thing is that Miyazaki has hated anime industry before he started ghibli.

>>88928216
This. /co/ watches good stuff like Star vs and Steven Universe not moe SoL crap and rarely has waifu threads.

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>>88928216
/a/ actually has more animation threads than /co/ though it also shitposts about animation a lot more.

>>88928216
What do you mean? Alot people watched Drifters last year and reason why that is because alot people on /a/ just sees anime as entertainment and nothing else.

>>88920373
>it's another /co/ inferiority thread
Delicious.

>>88928216
>Its all waifus in /a/, nothing more.
I can't think of a single show /co/ discusses that doesn't get flooded with waifu posting. Even the brand new JLA cartoon already has tons of loli Zatanna posting and Wonder Woman waifu posting.

>>88928267

They have an occasional good manga thread, otherwise its just pure shitposting and fanboy threads of the latest sword art online clone and how this waifu schoolgirl is better than this other one.

I've had more decent threads talking about anime in /co/ than in /a/, which should tell something about the quality of that board.

>>88928332
But /a/ hates SAO and whole isekai genre.

>>88928332
>sword art online clone
/a/ hates those. You probably just have pleb casual tastes. FMA fan I'm guessing?
And /v/ has more quality comics and cartoon threads than /co/. What's that say about /co/.

>>88920373
Do you think /CO/ is actually knowledgeable about animated cartoons?

LOL, they can barely keep up with modern chinese animation, let alone classical, powerful, classy animation. Their favorite cartoon is probably the PPG remake since they had heard of it before.

>>88920509
Pretty much anyone involved with Anime.

>>88923770
In your case, though, a "man".

>>88928382

>And /v/ has more quality comics and cartoon threads than /co/. What's that say about /co/.

Touché.

>>88928473
It says you belong on an equally shitty board with as much off-topic garbage as this one, you fucking retarded idiot.

>>88925249
>starring chris chan

>>88928485
ASk me how I know you're a virgin

>>88928485

>doesnt know what touche means.

You're from /a/, aren't you?

>>88928382
>What's that say about /co/
Nothing special. And that goes for terrible anime threads on /a/. Boards are always very hit and miss with their main topic because people are always eager to shit post about it and everyone comes in with their hot opinions.

When things come up on other boards, people are much more willing to have casual conversations with varying degrees of depth. Unless there's something particularly crappy about the way the board operates discussions, like /tv/, or the particular thing itself has some sort of weird, meme intersection with the board, like it gives /v/ an excuse to lose their shit over SJWs, it'll usually go pretty smoothly.

We also just tend to remember the good stuff about our topic when it comes up on other boards. It sticks out more when it comes up somewhere else. We had a fairly good, if short, thread on The Boys and why Butcher is such a goddamn asshole. Good threads still happen, but like everywhere, the majority of the board is shitposting.

>>88928507
>Putting words in my mouth to discredit my argument
You're from /co/ aren't you?

>>88928498
>using virgin as insult in 4chan

>>88920817
WALT DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG

THAT *IS* A SEXY LITTLE GIRL

>>88928332
And /a/ can have better threads about cartoons than /co/

>>88920509

The guy that made Delgo.

>>88928538

>Still doesnt know what touche means.

Here, let me help you:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/touch%C3%A9

>used to acknowledge a hit in fencing or the success or appropriateness of an argument, an accusation, or a witty point.

Too bad your wit ended right afterwards. Must be a short supply.

>>88928538
You really don't know what touche means though you retarded /a/utist. Crawl back into your hole please.

/a/ cant stop shitposting and waifu fapping and /co/ cant stop /pol/ing and waifu fapping

can we all agree that everything is shit?

>>88924865
>'super capitalist' like that's a bad thing
Why are socialists such scum?

>>88928601

Theres no argument whether something is shit or not. All boards are shit, we're comparing which ones are more shit than the others. When it comes to the topic of animation (western or asian), /a/ is way shittier than /co/. If you want a reason to go to /a/, its because of their manga threads.

>>88920373
Why is /a/ so triggered by Miyazaki?

>>88928589
>>88928590
I can link plenty of words, such as
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/retard
Which perfectly describes people like you who ingore reality and replace it with nonsensical rambling of people you love more than yourselves.

>>88928631

Because normies like his movies. /a/ hates popular things with a passion. Anything remotely known by the general public is shit. Anything known by most anime fans is shit. About the only thing they do like is LoGH because nobody who isn't already on this site knows about it. Also he talked shit about their waifus.

>>88928638
Just look up a word you don't next time before opening your fucking mouth, you retarded /a/utist subhuman.

>>88928650
Do you think you made a valid point? LOL

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>>88920450
>Claiming a well-documented workaholic didn't want to do any actual work.

>>88928638

>You guys are retards because you keep INGORING reality.

Keep digging that hole. And hey, now you know what the term Touché means so you dont have to embarrass yourself next time.

>>88928662
Back to this hole? I already proved you wrong anon :/

>>88928645
So does /co/ hates everything what is popular.

>>88928684
/co/ hates garbage

Normies masturbate constantly to garbage

>>88927807
Is Shin Godzilla any good?

>>88920509
John Kricfalusi.

>>88928684

/co/ will quickly turn on something once it hits a certain threshold of popularity sure but not quite like /a/. /co/ generally starts hating shit when fanbases start getting annoying. /a/ hates shit when fanbases start even existing.

>>88928745
>a fake announcement for a Dungeon Meshi anime happened
>the thread immediately turned to shit
It's kind of hard to blame though, though I think it's mostly because /a/ has a large shitposting population that focuses primarily on anime, rather than anything to do with the wider fandoms. Which may also be shit, but I don't think there's as much overlap with /a/ and other anime places as there are with, say, /v/ or /co/.

>>88928803

Well part of it is /a/ just has so much more stuff to hate. There are more anime put out in a season than cartoons put out in a year. If /co/ and /v/ weren't allowed to like anything that was popular there wouldn't be anything left to talk about. The other end of it is hating shit is /a/'s natural defense mechanism. /a/ is the oldest board on the site and compared to most others it's relatively unchanged. /a/'s negativity scares off most casual anime fans and creates a pretty insular community. Basically they're able to be contrarian assholes and it's worked out for them so they remain that way.

>>88925020
>His and Her Circumstances

>>88928854
And that is what i like about /a/. I dont mind elitism at all in there

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>>88928712
>/co/ hates garbage

>>88928378
when rezero was running that's all they talked about. it's like how /co/ "hates" SU but every time it comes back there's multiple 200+ reply threads for it going on

>>88928722
Depends on what you're into. I liked it a lot. It feels very Anno and some of the shots are pretty unusual. It climaxes a little early imo but overall pretty good.

>>88928745
>/co/ will quickly turn on something once it hits a certain threshold of popularity

So far the only thing that I've seen here where the threads are nearly universally positive is SvtFoE.

>>88928922
Well there is people in /a/ who liked rezero so of course it blew up but it did had alot people dislike it too like me

>>88925044
You could make an argument about the book adaptations but that attitude towards the fairy tales and folklore are bullshit.

You've got over 50 versions at least for each story and they'e been darkened and whitewashed to hell and back again.
He'll, the 'wicked step-mother' trope only came along when the Grimm Brothers wanted to moralise on the sanctity of marriage.

His only contribution was rightfully siding with Hitler and condemning niggers. Other than that he's a cuck.

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>>88920373
Ah yes, the greatest western animator to ever live.

>>88920373
That's not Max Fleischer.

>>>/a/151879872

Why does /co/ believe whatever shit they read about /a/?

>>88920817
Tone is incredibly important. Can you imagine if he had said it in a suspicious way? "HMMMM, that's a *pretty sexy* little girl. You sure this is appropriate for children?"

Then the other guy goes REEEE and does that one pic where the guy gets triggered and posts on 4chan, most likely saying "pedophile exposed" as the subject.

4chan is a hotbed of contrarianism, whatever is right or popular, 4chan champions the opposite.

>>88928179
Alan Moore is a hack though and only made good things by accident.

>>88928910
Their taste is shit, but I don't think I've seen any other board do "watched, expected, got" as well. /v/'s are beyond hope and /co/ never really does them.

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>>88929589
Pic related.

>>88929724
"No it's not! I'm just a loser who hates fun!"

>>88929304
>western
>posts an oceanspic

>>88920934
>he was way too conservative for that.

You do know that works proportionately to being a pedo, right?

>>88927771
Because Cowboy Bebop and One Punch Man had such similar styles of animation right? /co/ is even worse than /a/.

>>88926905
>Disney PC'd stories from other places, cultures, and dumbed them down for profit.
Just like they're doing with Marvel now, huh? Some things never change.

>>88929700
Then what anime do you like? I like slice of life alot nowdays because it seems japs still get that genre right most of time

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>>88928645
Why doesn't /a/ like old anime then? Not something you'd call popular.

>>88929498
Why does /a/ believe whatever shit they write about /a/?

>>88928485
>belong on an equally shitty board with as much off-topic garbage as this one
So, /co/.

My only criticism of Walt Disney is that the dude was notorious for being cheap with his staff and how much of an authoritarian douche he was when Disneyland opened.

Also, unlike Saving Mr. Banks, Walt was a real cunt to the author of Mary Poppins.

>>88926425
>so you're just admitting you lost then?
God I love this board

>>88926905
>government says you can't do something
>don't do it
>"GOD WHY ARE YOU SO FUCKING PC"
That's like trying to air porn on ABC. He would have been fined or jailed if he went any further

>>88924331
So, like Snyder?

>>88930228
What do you mean? There is pre-2000 anime threads in /a/ and if not then make one

>>88930265
Point of that post was that you guys arent any better than /a/

>>88920373
Ub Iwerks?

>>88920817
You realise that it was the last time they ever had a meeting with Walt because he DIED right?

>>88930661
Milt Kahl.

>>88928382
[Spoiler]I mean I thought it was good...

>>88929870
Nakamura was good in Bebop, but his modern work is stale and samey. From Kekkai Sensen to One Punch Man and Mob Psycho, it's the same flashy nonsense.

>>88928658
>do you?

>>88930679
*was stored in a cryogenic chamber for revival in the year of 2036

>>88920373
Because he is a hack

Try thinking for yourself for once, OP

>>88920817
Like Olli didn't know exactly what he was doing. The girl being seductive (towards Mowgli) is exactly what this scene is, it even has the "whoops, my handkerchief !" part.

>>88927061
>steals
That's not how public domain works, and yes, Disney hypocritically killed public domain but that's another topic.
I bet you're one of those people who think you can steal memes.

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>>88928684
>>88928712
>>88928745


/co/ loves A LOT of popular things.

Samurai Jack, EEE, ATLA, Disney animated movies, Billy&Mandy, early Sponge Bob and so on with plenty of other things.

We are not as contrarian as /a/, /v/ or /tv/.

>>88932524
/a/ likes yotsuba and it is kinda popular

>>88932524
Sure /co/ is not that contrarian as /a/ but dont think you guys are any better.

>>88930615
Nah Snyder actually has reasons for doing things a certain way which adds to the themes, rather than Anno's "it sounds cool." In fact, the Russo's are more similar considering the Russian words they used for Bucky were chosen literally because they "sounded cool."

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>>88925020
and Godzilla Resurgence

>>88928993
If by "positive" you mean "circlejerking cesspool of shipping cancer", sure. It's about as (((positive))) as Voltron or Gravity Falls threads.

>>88920373
>/a/ consistently calls the greatest Japanese animator to ever live a "hack."
I've never seen /a/ shit on Tezuka tho. In fact I'd go as far to say he is universally loved by them.

>>88920373
Uhhh, didn't Ub Iwerks do most of the animating and character designing?

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>>88925044
Nah

>>88928382
>has more quality comics and cartoon threads than /co/.
no they dont
they really dont

>>88923385
But he can actually animate.