What /co/ characters could beat Goku?

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If comics count.

>>88911686
Naw manhatten is just ssjblue

>>88911646
Anyone with a laser gun, just walk up when he's eating or sleeping and shoot him in the back.

Fuckin Dead.

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>>88911646
Any toon.

>>88911646
Carol Danvers

Prove me wrong

>>88911646
Kazuchika Okada.

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>>88911928

>>88911646
Cyclops

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>>88911646

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>>88911646
its been proven

Wally West and the meme force

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>>88911646

hes stronger then sonic ill give him that

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>>88911800
this tbqh

>>88912693
What's the joke

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>>88912801
Were it cut to just the OP and the first reply, would you get it?

>>88912801
Toon force > everything

>>88912236
>>88912693
>>88912938
>>88912989
Pretty much this
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>>88911646

>>88911646
batman with prep

>>88912989
Nah. Toonforce has a fatal weakness in that it operates on rule of funny. Toonforc against the toon character if its funnier to do so.

>>88912989
Toonforce is a fucking meme at this point. The second anyone displays it makes people want claim that they are overpowered as shit.
The best example is Gumball. He has never fucking used it to his advantage, yet people claim that he can beat the hell out of anyone.

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>>88913753
Are you impliying that Uncle Grandpa is not the ultimate God?

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>>88911646

>>88913904
No, he's saying that merely having toonforce isn't enough to make the character strong. He actually has to know how to use it properly. Uncle Grandpa is definitely a high tier toon force user.

It's kind of like the speed force. The more control of it you have, the more OP you are.

>>88911646
Uncle Grandpa.

>>88913904
>>88914109
>>88913991
Uncle Grandpa gets beaten up all the goddamn time.

>>88913933
Hey isn't that guy Candleja

>>88914181
Only if he wants to be.

>>88911702
This sound stupid even for Dragonball, explaim

>>88914181
Only if is funny

>>88914268
He's memeing.

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>>88912693
god how we have changed since I first arrived here.... Im almost 30.... also this guy can pretty much kick gokus ass

>>88914323
>the angrier he gets, the faster he gets

I can never stop screaming

>>88911646
The question really stands at this point what IS his final form? Because it hasn't been even since SSG became a new thing.

>>88911646

How about Living Tribunal?

>>88911646
A much better question would be: what characters could beat Gohan afterwards

>>88911729
it wasn't a lazer gun it was a plasma gun he got shot with pressurized focus sun spurt i hate when people say laser when talking plasma

Dream of the Endless.

>>88911928
she cant put out as much as she take in
if you know what im saying

>>88911646
The Eds

>can survive the vacuum of space and break reality and the laws of physics if they want to

>>88915161
still poorly executed

woulda been better if something really absurd happened like Guldo manages to hold his breath long enough for Freiza to land a fatal blow, it'd make the sudden time reverse buttpull be even funnier

>>88915201
She's a bottom with a small dick?

>>88915280
I took it to mean she can't keep up during fucking and turns into an insensate ragdoll

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>>88913753

>>88911702
New Manhattan created an entire multiverse and rewrote a timeliness using thought. Fuck off.

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>>88911646
Lucifer

Popeye
Droopy
Uncle Grandpa
Superman
The Flash
Dr Doom
Reed Richards
Lex Luthor
Karate Kid
Captain Carrot
Dr Strange
Dr Fate
Dr Manhattan
Bill Cipher
Discord
Ogrest
God Man
All-Shockwave
Underbase Starscream
God-Bender
Anti-Monitor
Mandrakk the Destroyer

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>>88915161
Zzzzap

>88916235
so he's a nerd that writes fanfiction?

>>88917096
It's obviously a really good laser beam. Cell and the Androids/Cyborgs were also the products of technology and science.

Champa, who is stronger than Super Saiyan Blue, hurt his leg on a coffee table.

Despite having these new "God" forms, absolutely nothing has changed, every character we are introduced to rivals or even surpasses something that is supposed to be able to challenge a God.

Super is a load of utter fucking nonsense.

>>88917186
You can always think of it as Goku and Vegeta essentially prestiging to the lowest divine level, so now they're facing the legends of the universe as well as multidimensional and divine enemies.

Same shit, new coat of paint.

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I can Beat Goku

>>88911646
/co/ku

after he challenges clark to a foot-race or an arm wrestling match for the sixth time that day

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>>88917259
What I'm getting at, is that nothing has changed. Everything they have done thus far they were all ready doing, and these new forms aren't really giving them any noticeable advantages.

Power level logic is cancerous as fuck. Kinnikuman invented it and dropped it halfway through because it was retarded and interfered with the story by disrupting who could be useful and who could fight who.

>>88915170
His does not care.

>>88913904
Uncle Grandpa is basically Doc Manhattan

>>88917640
Uncle Grandpa is more powerful than Dr Manhattan. The Toon Force absolutely fucking thrashes everything imaginable.

>>88914212
Dumbass newfag.

His name is candle jack and he only takes you after you say his na

>>88915051
"This Isn't Even My Final Form" Is about frieza not goku.

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>>88915114
Literally anyone can beat up that nerd.

>>88917834
to be fair Freiza was mad-crazy strong at that point.

>>88913904
is Uncle Grandpa CN's strongest character?

>>88916235
We mean the REAL doctor manhatten Dcuck

>>88911800
His dad just literally needs to get a job while making sure Goku doesn't put two and two together that him getting a job, is causing all of those reality distortions.

>>88911646
every single one of them

>>88917828
Yes? That's the joke? I'm saying Goku keeps finding further forms of power to achieve, and now he has divine power. so I'm joking, what is his final form? SSGSSBj4?

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>>88911646

>>88917972
I'm waiting for those quintuple fusions to end up in the show, and we see a fight between the five major old villains fused together and Goku. Fuck it, they're after dragon balls the size of planets that can wish literally anything, go all out with the idiocy.

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>>88918087
He is God.

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>>88918087
>never heard of bugs
nigga fought and won against the animator escaped and made multiply movies
pic related

>>88917186
>>88917259
>Goku and Vegeta are on the same league as gods now
>Meanwhile, Krillin, Tien, and rest of the human Earthlings aren't even SS1 tier yet
This is why power levels are bullshit. The scaling gets too high and leaves the majority of the cast completely useless.

>>88918334
The main cast can't be 20+ characters that's what naruto is for.

>>88911646
>Couldn't even beat an edgier version of himself
Well gee, just about everyone fuckfence

Better question: What /co/ character could beat Goku in an eating contest?

>>88918334
I really want them to do a plot where Tenshinhan, Krillin, Roshi, and Yamcha are tasked with the duty of wiping out a budding Neo-Red Ribbon faction that have Cell Saga-level androids and cool toys. The rest of the game is gonna be fucking off to that interdimensional tournament, that'd be the perfect time to do it.

>>88911646
>What /co/ characters could beat Goku?
Whomever the shitty comic book plot demands loser.

>>88918255
>Fuck it, they're after dragon balls the size of planets that can wish literally anything, go all out with the idiocy.
Zamasu wished for immortality and then he died. Super can't even keep it's shit straight.

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>>88918403
His edgy version was too OP

>>88918483
>Zamasu wished for immortality and then he died
He didn't die, though. Zeno nuked the entire timeline out of existence after Zamasu shed his mortal shell and became one with the universe, so he simply ceased.

>>88918483
>he died
Are you retarded?

>>88918540
So he died.

>>88918557
Oh here we go.

I have a question, why does getting his body destroyed mean Zamasu becomes the whole universe?

Super is festering putrid dog shit. Like, absolutely irredeemably dreadful and nonsensical.

>>88918619
Death implies that he goes to the afterlife and faces Yama, but that did not happen -- he simply ceased existing entirely. It's not "Zeno destroyed the universe," but "Zeno made it cease on a conceptual level"

>>88918619
>>88918638
Also, I'm not disagreeing with you on one point; Super is shit. As far as post-Z content goes: Japanese GT dub > Super >= English GT dub.

>>88918638
You're making things up now and performing mental gymnastics

>>88918659
Super is better than GT

>>88918498
Goku has an evil twin? Or an official alt-universe evil self? Christ. What's his story and deal?

Oh look Super fans are being utter, utter, utter faggots again. Makes sense, a truly shit cash grab like Super would attract such sub-amoeba scum.

At this point, almost no one. Superman and up are the only possible contenders.

>>88918806
"Superman and up" is about a thousand fucking character in comics alone, cartoons give us plenty more.

>>88918806
In a way it's weird that Superman hasn't had his own prolonged ascent to godhood for some arc. Or presumably stuff like golden Superman who count as deific.

>>88918735
Japanese GT dub is watchable. imo, what really kills it is how abysmal the music in the US dub was. That's not to say there weren't glaring and horrible flaws with it, just that the English dub makes those flaws that much worse

I get what they were going for with Super, but they went in half-cocked and they're paying for it.

>>88918745
An evil Kaioshin from another universe gets his shit kicked in by Goku, making him resolve to remove ningen and seek the Dragon Balls. He uses them to steal the body of a Goku from another timeline, then picks up a time clone on the way, hugs for an uncomfortably long time, and then wishes for his time clone to have an immortal body.

Also, he cuts himself to get more powerful, and gets a scythe as a result. You can't make this shit up.

Are there any co characters around the same level as Goku or any of the other Z Fighters? It seems like pretty much all of DC and Marvel is either stomping them or getting stomped, but I don't know of any characters who could have a truly interesting fights with them. (Obviously not accounting for plot induced bullshit)

Maybe Thor without Odinforce or anything crazy would be a good fight for Goku without SSG or Blue. Though I'd really like to see Mr. Satan vs Batman's rogue gallery.

>>88918435
That's essentially the Garlic Junior filler right there.

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>>88918745
He was better than Goku

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>This kills the Goku

>>88918889
Oh, I see. So he's technically just a possessed/swapped Goku with corrupt divine power. Ginyu taken to a logical extreme.

Dragonball with its flippant power arrays sometimes provokes some weird thought experiments. I always liked it for that much.

Why the pink hair?

>>88918483
Yeah well an omnipotent being can do whatever the fuck he wants.

Also he wished for immortality, fused with something that wasn't immortal and lost the immortality, and then died.

I think the karate kid could do it maybe iron fist.

>>88918963
>So he's technically just a possessed/swapped Goku with corrupt divine power. Ginyu taken to a logical extreme.

That's the gist of it, yeah. He gets too powerful/edgy, so Goku presses his "Fuck This Timeline" button and calls in the God King of the 12 Universes to delete the entire timeline to defeat him

>>88918963
Pink > Blue

It's likely harkening back to how Super Saiyan God goku had red hair

>>88918934
Without question. But he's not a /co/ character

>>88918619
>I have a question, why does getting his body destroyed mean Zamasu becomes the whole universe?
Because a god being "killed" should have some kind of consequence.

>>88919021
>delete the entire timeline to defeat him

Trunks went back there, though

>>88918971
We don't know he's omnipotent. So far all we've seen him do is destroy a universe, fly and teleport. If he was omnipotent why didn't he just get rid of Zamasu?

Again, making things up.

>>88919052
Whis turns back time and un-deletes it. Super has two God Kings running around in one timeline, nothing makes any goddamned sense.

>>88918934
>>88919026
Goku's as much a gaga character as Saitama though. He could totally take one punch

>>88919034
That's not answering the question. Why did Zamasu losing his body make him the universe?

>>88919099
It's probably a mix of himself wishing to be immortal and getting to retarded levels of power. It's never explicitly stated why, but it's never explained why there are two Zenos and how Whis can redact an action of the God King when he isn't even a god himself. Super is incredibly stupid.

>>88915217
guldo didnt die

>>88914955
that sounds like my dad.

>>88919147
That is the true answer, that that Super is a complete retarded mess that makes no sense, is badly written and poorly conceived, which is made up as it goes along. Considering it's aimed at small children(which is why there is so much childish "comedy") it's not surprising it has low quality writing.

>>88918856
When was the last time a story featured Superman with a blue sun power boost?

>>88919074
>If he was omnipotent why didn't he just get rid of Zamasu?
Because he's a fucking moron pay attention.

>>88919074
Omnipotent =/= Omniscient

>>88919283
He was there to see Zamasu merge with the Universe. More and more mental gymnastics, more excuses, more making things up to cover Super's terrible writing.

>>88917543
To be fair, Kinikkuman himself had his Inner Burning Strength that allowed him to raise his own power level to match and even surpass his rivals for a short amount of time.

I'll agree that this was also subvertd during the Kings arc, where this power was stolen from him and left him with a definite 1,000,000 power level during the rest of the arc.

>>88919383
Are you asking why he deleted the entire universe instead of just destroying Zamasu?

1) Creating splintered timelines is apparently considered one of the biggest blasphemies among the Gods, so he was probably gonna do it anyway
2) Zamasu was fusing with the universe (HOWEVER the fuck that works, but they said it verbatim in the episode where he did it), so it was necessary to delete it
3) Never once have I called Super's writing good

>>88919074
You've seen him annihilate a universe, you've been informed he's done it before, everyone in the universe who has any sense at all is terrified of him because he can wipe them out on a whim.

>If he was omnipotent why didn't he just get rid of Zamasu?

Because he didn't feel like stopping there. If you actually watched the show instead of reading summaries on wikipedia you'd have the answer to that.

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>>88919434
The Inner Strength was just a tool to allow Kinnikuman to overcome the odds.

There were characters with Chojin Power below 1 million defeating characters with Chojin Power of exactly 100 million.(see Robin Mask vs Mariposa)

They did actually bring back Chojin Power in Kinnikuman Resurrection but they have expanded it's functions. Think of it as a Mana Bar which is used to power yourself up and fuel special powers.

Some Chojin, including the Justice Chojin, keep their true Chojin Power in reserve to give them energy and heal their bodies during matches, which is why they can win even though they are clearly getting thrashed. Buffaloman's full Chojin Power was revealed to be at least 80,000,000 in his match with Grim Reaper, and his match with Ganman showed him trying to use his reserved Chojin Power only for Ganman's Cyclops Gaze to cause him to revert back to his 10,000,000 state.

Pic related is Ramenman using 20,000,000 of his Chojin Power to give him a speed boost against Nemesis.

>>88914181
>>88913904
Uncle grandpa is the ultimate punching bag. He won't use his power offensively because its against his character.

>>88919515
Destroying a universe doesn't mean omnipotence. Reed Richards can destroy a universe and he's a Scientist. Apparently Lord Beerus can do it and he seems to know little, if any magic at all.

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>>88917259
>>88917543
So the end game of super is that Goku and vegeta are going to reach Sun Wokong levels?

>>88919675
>Reed Richards can destroy a universe and he's a Scientist

While he's inside it and come out fine?

idk why ppl dont understand dbz. ki is "life energy". they're powerful physically (strength,speed, etc.) with powerful energy blasts and esoteric techniques. Other ppl in the series have supertech, magic, and superpowers. They're still ningens. They have to eat, sleep, breathe, etc. The whole point of the laser was to show that goku doesnt keep his defense up.

>>88918255
look up all the extra shit, like video games, mobile games, pachinko or trading card shit. It has all the crazy crap. more fusions, magic, demon possession etc.

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Could Goku lift Mjolnir?

>>88921099
No

>>88917186
>obviously a really good laser beam
Then why did they spend so much time on Frieza making fun of him for getting hit by it?

>>88921099
He can ride the nimbus, so I assume.

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>>88911646
Well, any Lantern of any color, so there's a few thousand. Shazam, Dr Fate, Doctor Strange, Doom, Darkseid, Thor, Flash, Wonder Woman, Sentry, Hyperion...

<-Oh yeah and this guy.

>>88921508
Because Goku could have avoided it if he was paying attention. He was mocking Goku for letting his guard down.

>>88921099
>>88921310
he was abusing 40 tons of weights in training back before the buu saga. add in the fact that he's too retarded to doubt it's possible and the likely answer is yes.

And Odin should immediately bestow another Mjolnir upon Goku simply to put one of the damn hammers in the hands of a true hero again.

>>88921625
Nimbus is purity of heart. Mjolnir is worthiness to rule asgaurd.
Gokus retarded ass hates responsibility and he refused to become the guardian god of earth when asked because of this. The dude cannot even farm because it takes too much time.

>>88913933
Who is that?

>>88921764
Your weeb damage control has no power here! Frieza never said anything about avoiding it, he was mocking Goku for being wounded by such a simple weapon.

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>>88921819
Goku might not be considered worthy. MIGHT not. Goku would and has let innocents die so he can get his fighting jollies. He cares about fighting more than anything. His sense of honor amongst warriors might be the main factor which makes him worthy, if he is.

>>88921819
What does any of that have to do with Goku meeting the standards of space vikings?

>>88921970
He wasn't mocking him specifically for that.
He was mocking Goku's inflated ego and his desire to spare anyone just for the sake of a rematch

>>88912389
By who?
>inb4 Death Battle

>>88921994
I feel like Goku's sacrifice with Cell would definitely make him worthy

>>88922053
Then he didn't kill Majin Buu when he had the chance and then sacrificed everyone on Earth so the kids could have a shot at fighting him.

>>88921970
You're not fooling anyone shit-poster.

>>88922021
Yes, yes he was. And it was pretty funny. And it makes sense in the context of the setting. It fits with past scenes that much of Goku's durability is based on ki, rather than the strength of his body. If he's not actively guarding himself, his passive defense is astronomically lower.

>>88922117
You tell me where anyone says anything about Goku not dodging the laser.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPZszcH-U5Y

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>>88917096

>>88922239
Hey I remember making that and lost it. Thanks!

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>>88911646
>>88911928

>>88922292
oh shit dude really? no prob

>>88922215
If the laser is so weak and pathetic why did it beat the person who beat Freiza. Why are Super fans the worst people on the Internet? Holy shit.

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>>88911646

>>88922383
Dragon Ball in general is inconsistent as fuck anon.

>>88922383
Because this. >>88922132

>>88922383
And in DBZ Krillan threw a rock at Goku, who was sleeping in Super Saiyan form and it still hurt him a lot.

>>88922389
I'm pretty sure Goku could beat Darkseid.

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>>88911646

>>88922419
See >>88922239

>>88922410
Yes, because this. >>88922132

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>>88922392
i think anime in general is inconsistent, not that i dont like anime its just a general problem when it comes the medium i notice

>>88922461
Why would she be any more effective than Androids 19 and 20?

>>8891349
kekd

>>88922487
>anime is inconsistent
Tell me more about the three shonen anime you watched on toonami

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>>88922419
How do you figure?

Also are we talking about the Avatar?(the one pictured) or the true form? True form Darksied would obliterate the entire Dragonball franchise by entering it. No, I'm not making that up, this is not Hyperbole or exaggeration, Darksied's true form is a cosmic force of abstract destruction which cannot exist within a universe, and is above multiversal. When he "fell" into the DC multiverse, all the universes began being destroyed by him being in them.

>>88922487
I was talkinf about the logic inside Dragon Ball but I see your point and I actually think the same as you.

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>>88911702
Manhattan would be on Zeno's level

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>>88922562
Oh fuck off, Zeno is less than nothing to him. Fucking Dr Doom and Reed Richards can do what Zeno has done.

>>88922618
Kek, sorry for insulting your husbando, loremaster nerd

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>>88922597
Manhattan is way above Zeno. Zeno has hardly done anything.

Dr Manhatten has been shown to be able to see through time, view and comprehend moments in the past, present and future simultaneously, the ability to create and reconstruct energy and matter on the sub-atomic level, create life, travel to other universes, create universes, and so forth.

>>88922666
I accept your surrender.

>>88922681
Just like earth 4 Captain Atom.

>>88922681
He can see his own timeline but not anything he isn't or won't be present for.

>>88922681
>>88922597
Guys, Zeno is omnipotent. He undid a Universe by waving his hands around. Doc Manhattan can't touch that.

>>88922410
>Injustice Nightwing

>>88922733
And yet Daishinkan is the most powerful being.

>>88922383
Retconned to goku being killed in base form, makes sense because whis kept telling goku his biggest weakness was keeping his guard down
>>88922410
Filler episode

>>88911646

Anyone with a blaster apparently.

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>>88922733
>Guys, Zeno is omnipotent
No. We have seen him to 3 things. Fly, Teleport and destroy a universe, all 3 of these can be done by someone not omnipotent.

You and other Super fanboys like you are pathetic beyond pathetic. You provide no evidence for anything ever, you perform ungodly amounts of mental gymnastics, back peddling, goal-post moving and even outright make things up. YOu have never, evber had a single leg to stand on. You are absolutely unbelievably pathetic.

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>>88911646
Bruce Wayne.
He could tell Chi-Chi he wants to hire Goku for a mundane but well paying and benefited day job and she'd brow beat him into accepting.

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>>88912614
This.

>>88912614
You know Troll King was nearly killed multiple times.

>>88919052
>>88919088
Didn't Trunks just return to a timeline that was similar to his own, it just hadn't had to deal with Zamasu?

>>88915086
Are the tribunal in any comics or cartoons, or am I thinking of the wrong tribunal?

Also, Vivec's the only one of them worth a damn and you know it.

>>88926101
>Living Tribunal
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Living+Tribunal

>>88912614
ni**er

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>>88926101
Actually, now that you mention it, would achieving CHIM give you the ability to take on guys that are on Supes and Goku's paygrade?

>>88918889
nigga that sounds terrible

>>88918905
Nigga wtf is this abomination

>>88921099
If cap can goku can plus goku was pure n shit. I feel like that's a dumb question of course goku can

>>88922932
>Zeno
>fly
He doesnt fly or float anon he just fucks reality into making him move however he wants.

>>88926709
See >>88922932
>You and other Super fanboys like you are pathetic beyond pathetic. You provide no evidence for anything ever, you perform ungodly amounts of mental gymnastics, back peddling, goal-post moving and even outright make things up. You have never, ever had a single leg to stand on. You are absolutely unbelievably pathetic.

>>88922932
>You provide no evidence for anything ever, you perform ungodly amounts of mental gymnastics
>You don't provide evidence except you do

>>88915214
>Eds
>winning
it would take 130 episodes, 4 specials, and a movie

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>>88926572
>let's innocents die when he can save them so he can have a good fight.
Nah. Most if not all of the times he's spared an adversary it was because he wanted to fight them again some day. Doesn't even care about all the evil they might commit and all the innocents that might suffer from the actions of that adversary.

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>>88927096
All you do is prove me more and more right, and make yourself look more and more wrong and pathetic.

Let's look at some evidence produced by other posters.
>>88922681
>>88922519
>>88922595
>>88922618
>>88922932

Now let's look at some evidence posted by Zeno shit-posted.
>...
Hmmm.

>>88922239
That gif will never not make me laugh

>>88927101
I guess it depends on what era goku we're talking but I feel like namek-frieza saga goku could wield the shit out of the mjolnir

>>88911646
Seth the Programmer please fuck off.

>>88911646
Batman

>>88927097
Still faster than Namek.

>>88918905
Super Saiyan Rose is so fucking cool and I don't know why it's such a dumb concept
>>88911646
>Superman
>Hulk
>Shazam
>Any Flash
>Batman because the writers will do some stupid shit like have him figure out ki and master it or something
>Darkseid
>Doomsday

>>88927240
Nah. Funimation Dub Goku could wield Mjolnir. Jap dub Goku is an edgy cunt who only cares about fightan

>>88927101
Goku is pure because he is pure from morality in any direction. He just does what he wants and isn't burdened by mental gymnastics like right or wrong, simple human concepts that are essentially "what I like and what I don't like". Of course almost all humans dislike death, so seeing as they share common ground they assume there is a common morality when really it is simply their instincts as living beings, and even that can be undone. To Goku these things are irrelevant. He is neither good nor bad, such concepts don't even exist. He just does what he feels like.

It is impossible for someone who believes in objective morals tonnot also hate someone or something. As Goku does not have morality, he does not comprehend hate. Thsu all his opponents are simply people he wants to beat who want to beat him. He cannot evevn distinguish between whether someone is"good" or "bad" by human standards. Unless that person destroyed something he did care about, like someone he liked, he wouldn't be angry at them. Even then his anger towards them is pure as it is not tainted by bias, because he simply is displeased that that person did something he didn't like. He's not an idiot either, just completely oblivious to humans ideas of morals.

>>88927910
Ah shit I always make spelling mistakes. You get the point.

>>88927910
>As Goku does not have morality
You area reteard who never read the source material, even when he was a kid he had a sense of whats right and what's wrong even if it was basic concepts

Goku knows killing is wrong
Goku knows stealing is wrong
Goku was told to respect elders and women because that was the right thing to do
Goku always helped those who asked for help for nothing in return
He distinguish good from wrong as seen with the RR army/Tao Pai Pai, King Piccolo and Frieza

He does starts a tendency to look for strong battles as he grows old and does retarded shit for them and don't think too far ahead in said situations, but that doesn't mean he doesn't give a fuck of anything or anyone.

>>88928026
Goku knows killing is wrong?Where was that sentiment when he slaughtered the entire red robin army for wanting to make a wish to get blue a little taller and piccolo daimao for killing Krillin but decides to let Frieza,a being that not only killed Krillin but slaughtered PLANETS live because he wants to fight him again.Goku doesn't care about right or wrong

>>88921675
What are you talking about? Vegeta blew planets up before he got on Earth. Frieza was capable of the same shit. That was a loooooong time ago with much weaker power levels.

Unless you pull out Spectre/Silver Surfer tier level people, which none of those dudes are, Goku one-shots them because Mary Sue.

>>88926505
Yes, but then you get Super Saiyan CHIM and literally no one who matters wants that.

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>>88927910
>Dragonball fan once again making things up and performing mental gymnastics.
Why can't they help themselves?

>>88928518
Okay, now try evidence that's not from filler episodes. Planet level is nothing to the characters I listed. The weakest is arguably Thor, due to his lower speed, and he defeated ten thousand fused gods. Goku hasn't defeated ONE.

>>88928640
Ok.

Superman: Merely really strong and fast. Goku is stronger than Majin Buu/his forms, who thinks blowing up planets is child's play. Goku could use Human Genocide Attack if he bothered to try and learn it and kill everyone on Earth and Superman could do shit all to stop it. Maybe if we're talking Prime levels of power he could stand up to it, but Goku is now on a level of universal forces.

Lantern rings can be shattered with sufficient force. Goku definitely possesses sufficient force.

Shazam might stand a chance actually, he fought against the Spectre and didn't immediately get chumped.

Dr. Fate I actually have to go look up, I forget his rough level. Dr. Strange might be able to do some trickery and win, or come at it from an angle Goku couldn't get around, but not in raw force.

Doom is literally a guy with super science and magic. If you threw Hulk in a room with him, Doom would lose.

Wonder Woman is the same explanation as Superman.

I don't know how Flash could hurt Goku because of Instantaneous Transmission. If he sneak attacked Goku while Goku's being retarded, like in that laser gif above, then he probably wins. Vegeta is probably a better match because he'd probably blow up Earth while Flash is on it just to spite him.

Sentry and Hyperion are discount Supermans.

Darkseid could do it if he had access to the funkier aspects of his power and not the super strong smash aspects. His Omega Factor isn't even that scary compared to the ki attacks shown in the Cell saga.

Like, look. Every major character after the Cell Saga could feasibly blow up a planet in a few minutes worth of effort. Superman has to deal with people who punch really hard. The power levels of DBZ means you should send only cosmically powered people after them, not mid-tier powered heroes.

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>>88928717
>Champa hurt his leg on a coffee table.
>Champa is way stronger than Goku.

>>88927910
EXTREME AUTISM

>>88927685
The only one on your list that is right is Superman or some of them. Darkseid. And some Flash. Other than that nah.

>>88929477
Batman could make a powder that messes with Goku's ability to use his ki and make a special Batsuit that could deal with his base form.

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Keit-ai will find a way.

>>88929567
Is Drake and Josh a sequel to Keit-ai?

Bugs bunny.

But only if Goku was the aggressive force/had wronged Bugs in some way

>>88929610
"Come on Bugs, fight me already!"
"I already said a million times, NO!"

>they fight anyway after shenanigans
>Goku goes Super Saiyan Blue, Bugs makes a funny face
>"Alright Bugs, calm down, there's gotta be a way to beat him somehow..."
>Goku flies super fast at Bugs doing the Goku fighting face and yelling
>Bugs does thing
>Bugs wins

I get the feeling that you guys still think that Goku is still in the planet destroying level of power. Like you guys took Deathbattle way too seriously.

>>88928717
Flash's speed is canon faster than instant teleportation.

>>88929692
Yeah I love that. It's pretty funny. But what comic did that come from? I've been curious about that.

>>88918498
>>MUH JUSTICE

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>>88911646
How could you forget.

>>88917972
To be fair I bet Yamcha and Mutenroshi are stronger than Gohan now, the guy is such a fagget now, damn, they should have killed him during Cell games at the top of his character development

>>88928717

>Superman: Merely really strong and fast.

Oversimplification of Superman makes everything you just typed bulldshit, lets also ignore the fact you made a comment about Goku pulling a Genocide move honestly negates anything you have to say about Goku.

>Lantern rings can be shattered with sufficient force. Goku definitely possesses sufficient force.

A blue lantern is invincible is they are in proxy to a lantern, and you seem to know nothing about how much force is needed because its not a physical force but more a force of will, and you can argue that Goku has more will of not than some low tier ring users but not the big three, or Sinestro.

>Shazam might stand a chance actually, he fought against the Spectre and didn't immediately get chumped.

Shazam probably is the strongest if he wasnt a kid mentally.

>Dr. Fate I actually have to go look up, I forget his rough level.

>If you threw Hulk in a room with him, Doom would lose.

Doom won that fight several times.

>Wonder Woman is the same explanation as Superman.

Same comment as superman

>I don't know how Flash could hurt Goku because of Instantaneous Transmission.

Speed force negates Goku's IT move any day all day.

>Sentry and Hyperion are discount Supermans.

Agreed

>Darkseid could do it if he had access to the funkier aspects of his power and not the super strong smash aspects.

He can and has face tanked shots that could nuke planets if not galaxy's. Kid Buu would love to get some of that power.

>Like, look. Every major character after the Cell Saga could feasibly blow up a planet in a few minutes worth of effort. Superman has to deal with people who punch really hard. The power levels of DBZ means you should send only cosmically powered people after them, not mid-tier powered heroes.

Power levels are bullshit and there are reality destroying characters in DC, Like superman who can punck a hole in reality if he didnt hold back.

Or flash could negate all existence if he ran to fast.

>>88929747
They have done it many times, once recently after Nu52 event.

But he has the power to pull anyone he chooses into the speed force and drain them of their speed.

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POWERLEVELS.

>>88926505

Yes because CHIM wins. You can literally save scum every little thing. So even if someone is 10 million times stronger than you? You could just aim to spray toxic shit in Goku's face and rinse repeat till you get the opening to do so.

Goku loses vs Chim because he has no outright immunity.

Beerus? You can't beat because he's openly immune to shit Goku has been affected by.

Goku? Guy not so long ago got beaten with some guys metal needle and a mild stunning poison in 1 hit.

He loses vs CHIM on that alone.

Bane can beat Goku easily. Even Toyman and Joker could.

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>>88911646
Goku isn't really that strong

Goku's power level is Over 9000, a humans powerlevel is 5-10, meaning Goku is 1800x stronger than a normal human. Meaning he can lift maybe 180,000 kg

Superman can lift 200000000000000000000000 kg after some good radiation exposure, giving him a power level of 400000000000000.

Superman could beat Goku and then some.

>>88918087
He can cause planetary destruction by accident. Erase and then give sentience to an entire universe. He can time travel and with a little punch he can detonate an explosion the size of Earth. And on top of all that he is a reality warper.

UG is terrying.

>>88921625
>He can ride the nimbus, so I assume.

nimbus only required you to be pure of heart, if i recall correctly Mjolnir required much more

>>88930726
what?

Goku's power level in Super is easily in the trillions

>>88912389
By who? Death Battle?! Kek'd at that joke.

>>88915338
An insensate ragdoll who hits hard.

>>88912236
Underrated post

>>88928717
Fuck off retard. You know jackshit about comic characters.

>>88925952
Yep.

>>88914212
That's not how the Candlejack meme works you fucking reta

>>88918435
Apparently one of the video games had a plot where, offscreen, a different character dealt with a war between King-Piccolo/Kami fusion and his demon armies, the Red Ribbon and THEIR army of androids, and Bibidi and his Majins, along with Buu.

>>88918783
Oh look Superman fans are being utter, utter, utter faggots again. Makes sense, a truly shit cash grab like Superman would attract such sub-amoeba scum.

>>88919204
That is the true answer, that that Superman is a complete retarded mess that makes no sense, is badly written and poorly conceived, which is made up as it goes along. Considering it's aimed at small children(which is why there is so much childish "comedy") it's not surprising it has low quality writing.

>>88911928
Shitty shilled characters don't qualify because they will only be given more power so they are 'the best' because the writers don't understand what actually makes a character likable.

>>88933258
I think he's referring to Carol being an energy sponge like Androids 19/20.

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>>88930666
Alright take it easy satan.

>>88928095
You really have a jacked up view of how events played out.

>>88933258
Calm your tits anon.
She used to be a fun character before muh Marvel flagship character.

>>88919204
>>88933201
>samefagging this hard

>>88933363
I'm very aware of what he meant. I don't think you know what I'm getting at.

>>88933416
You'll have a point when she becomes fun again.

>>88926505
>>88929943
Don't listen to him. This man doesn't know what CHIM is. CHIM is not the game mechanics becoming universal mechanics the character can use. Someone who has achieved CHIM still has a mortal body and is still bound to the rules of reality for the most part. You bend the rules too far and the dreamer will wake up, wiping you from existence with the rest of the dream.

CHIM has advantages, but they are more esoteric and not related to physical power. You still need to find a way to supreme power some other way that doesn't zero sum the entire world.

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>>88911646
Fight me DBfags
You know it's true

Richard > Goku

>>88921914
>>88921914
I won't fall into your trap of mentioning the name of Candleja

>>88911702
You joking, right?

>>88911646
kelly

>>88928717
Planet-level attacks are NOTHING to any of those characters. Superman absorbed enough anti-sunlight to vaporize half a galaxy, he's tanked hits that could take out a dozen solar systems, he's so much stronger, faster and tougher than Goku that he can just STAND THERE, do nothing, and let Goku wear himself out. Or, just kill him with a single punch Goku is too slow to avoid. Or vaporize his brainwith heat vision reflected through his eyes. Do Goku's eyes FUNCTION? Yes? That means they reflect light inside his head, because that's how eyeballs work. Which means he can do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to stop it.

Flash is faster than teleportation, Fate, Strange and Doom could destroy his soul, Darkseid can kill him with a hard stare, erase him from time and space, Wonder Woman and Shazam are only marginally less powerful than Superman, they'd easily beat him down, any Lantern can do a million things Goku has never seen before and has no idea how to fight.

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>>88933201
Dragonball fanboy supremely and ultimately pan-dimensionally quantum ass annihilated to the end of reality for all time.

You could not possibly be more totally an absolutely defeated.

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>>88911646

>>88933836
Stupid newfag believing in candleja

>>88912693
Man /co/ used to be gay

>>88939877
Yeah thank god that's done with.

>>88915161
>>88911729
It was a laser gun. The rationale is that Goku isn't powerful per se. His strength comes from his absurd skill, like focusing his chi onto the patch of molecules being punched or shot by a a lazer or some shit. Anything that catches him by surprise can still kill him.

>>88933258
>shitty shilled characters don't qualify
Soooo.... most comic book characters?

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>>88918498
>>88918905
Why is he so perfect?

>>88940425
I didn't think people needed to be reminded this.

I always see the argument as something that shouldn't even be discussed, the themes of either universe are so vastly different the idea of pairing up these characters is asinine.

Goku theme is that he always seeks to improve and breaks every limit, while never giving more of a shit than that.

Superman is a living god who has to learn humility. At times even he gets bested by his piers (Flash destroys him Speed wise, Batman in cunning, and Aqua Man generally making him look like a uptight bitch)

Oh man Aqua Man could beat the ever living shit out of half the cast while drunk, sober he would at least go toe to toe with Vegeta. God that would be such a good fight, Id kill to see Wonder Woman vs Vegeta, he gets a arm lock, then she just slams him in to the ground repeatedly while he stubbornly holds on.

>>88918230
Do it again Topsy!

>>88940425
This.

It pisses me off everytime someone brings out Goku and the Ring Laser.
>"B-But Goku got injured by a Ring Laser!"

Everyone like to bring that one "weakness" about Goku in every fucking thread about him. But they want to leave out why he got injured in the first place.

HE DROPED HIS FUCKING GUARD!

This was explained in the movies if you fucking payed attention let alone watched Resurrection F.

Whis explains this to Goku. Hell, even Freeza explains Goku's weakness to him and how pathetic as powerful as he is, he fell to a simple Ring Laser.

Goku has become too strong for his own good and lowers his guard.

>>88911729
>>88915161
>>88915217
>>88917096
>>88917186
>>88921508
>>88922021
>>88922117
>>88922239
>>88922383


FUCKING WATCH THE SOURCE MATERIAL NEXT TIME YOU BANDWAGON CUNTS!

>>88940731
He was shiny.

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Superman, Worldbreaker Hulk, The Flash, Dr. Manhattan, Maybe Dr. Doom, Beetlejuice, Rick Sanchez, Doctor Strange, Discord, Doomsday, Darkseid, Thanos w/ the Infinity Gauntlet, Literally Anyone w/ the Infinity Gauntlet, Deadpool, Beetlejuice, Professor Xavier, Ice Man, Jean Grey, Matthew Malloy, Franklin Richards, The Sentry, Supposedly Odin is pretty strong but I don't read Thor, Maybe Thor, The Silver Surfer Galactus, Marvel Zombies after they ate Galactus and received the Power Cosmic, Mad Jim Jaspers, Yakko Wakko & Dot, Stanley Ipkiss w/ the Mask of Loki, Ed Edd and Eddy, The Genie from Aladin, Uncle Grandpa, Freakazoid, Pic Related, The Powerpuff Girls, and Beetlejuice.

That was fun. Thanks, anon.

>>88941378
it's still a plasma gun why the fuck would a laser gun shoot a burst of laser it would shoot a stream of it

>>88911646
Fuck that
Which /co/ character could defeat Tetsuo?

>>88942992
Because it's not a plasma gun.

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Bad_Ring_Laser

>>88938402

Didn't Superman once bench press the equivalent of Earth's mass for 5 days straight?

He also lifted 200 quintillion tons ONE HANDED.

>>88943100
Two different versions of Superman, Anon.
Pick one.

>>88943100
He's done more than that. His power set is insane, how anyone thinks this is even a contest is beyond me. Don't get me wrong, I think Goku is a better character, but for fucks sake All that'd have to happen is the two making eye contact and Superman could just lobotomize him. Say Goku uses instant transmission in the time it would take light beams to travel a short distance, he still wouldn't have an effective arsenal against him. Superman could just endure the hits until Goku's fatigue catches up with him.

>>88943176

Which Superman are you talking about?

>>88943275
Main Superman/New 52 can bench press the Earth

All-Star Superman after his Sun exposure can lift 200qt and more.

>>88938402
>Superman absorbed enough anti-sunlight
>anti-sunlight
>anti-sunlight
>anti-sunlight
>anti-sunlight

What the actual fuck

>>88938402
Only reality benders can beat Goku since the dude can destroy the universe.

>>88943246
instant transmission is instant. the light beam thing was translation error

>>88943374
>since the dude can destroy the universe
[citation needed]

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They should just do the sensible thing and scale power levels down to something simpler like 1-20. 1 is base human or whatever. 20 is something like Whis or his masters who can flick a universe away with a finger. Then you can still have number games for the systems-obsessed that can slide around more believably and also use it as a trick since someone who is a 4 might have god knows what powers to kill a 12 with if they play it smart.

Also why does everyone want these people to fight and win, 7 seconds in Superman and Goku would go stalemate and then go buy out an entire street of ramen houses.

>>88943374
The fuck you talking about m8?

>>88943508
>>88943508
So that thing where he has to touch his head is also instant? I'll pull a quote from the wiki since they probably know more about it than me.
>"This action is usually accompanied by the user placing his index and middle fingers on his forehead to help him concentrate, though if extra time is taken the technique can be performed without this aid."
So, you're telling me that he can either move his fingers to his head and think of exactly where he wants to go...all at speeds that are faster than 299,792 km/s?
I get that they can punch really really fast. But there's usually lines and shit to represent where there arms are but if goku could move at that speed, we wouldn't be able to see him period. Friction alone would decimate his flesh. And that's all just so he can use his technique at the required speed.

>>88943520
Watch Super.

>>88943346

Comic books are full of weird shit like that.

>>88943869
btw does anyone have a .gif of two characters trading punches really fast? I feel like I'm going to have this argument a lot and I can't find one on Google.

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>>88943085
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Bad_Ring_plasma
nice troll

>>88943869
the long part of instant transmission isnt the hand its locking onto the targets chi and pulling himself towards it he also has to know where the target is so instant transmission is more like rapid transmission

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>>88943520
>>88943884
he almost did it in super on accident
fuck super

>>88944205
"Article not found."
Nice try plasma fag.

>ITT: autistic fanboys calling everyone that doesn't like their characters butthurt

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>>88911646
You know it's true. If he's the protagonist of the cartoon, it doesn't matter what Goku does. He's fucked by the time the credits roll if Bugs chooses to make his life hell.

>>88944205
>Denying the existence of an article by renaming the link just to prove how ignorant you are and trolling people to click on a wiki link that doesn't exist.

How pathetic can this get?

>>88912389
You decide!
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MW9Nrg_kZU

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>>88943374
>being this retarded
Stupid ningen

>>88930726
>>88931680
also, powerlevels are logarithmic.

>>88921099
No, but Gohan could.

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>>88944441
>How pathetic can this get?
verily

If you guys want to argue, you need to know that Goku can hit with the force to destroy a galaxy. Moves billions of time faster than light. A combat genius. Withstand galaxy destroying blows. Immune to timestop. And can get 10 times stronger than that.

>>88945024
TOON FORCE
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>>88928095
Did you somehow miss the part where Kami taught him that murdering all those soldiers was a no no?
Or that Goku pretty much btfo frieza with his yellow beam of hate

>>88940425
He's super human at least. He can shrug off small arms fire to the skull.

>>88945024
Weak bait

>>88943869
It's been an hour and a half. Since no-one has argued against it, can we agree that Instant Transmission goes out the window? The Only reply I got was from >>88944012 and that only makes it take more time for him to pull it off.

>>88945614
wrong post. This guy>>88944257 is the one I was talking about.

>>88921914
Candlejack. See you faggots? Nothing ha

>>88918498
>Black is a combination of the two things Zamasu hates the most: Goku and niggers.

What did Toriyama mean by this?

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This nigga could.

>>88945543
Is it realky bait if it's true?

>>88946084
>Black is a combination of the two things Zamasu hates the most: Goku and niggers
>niggers

black didnt hate gods tho

>>88945634
What the fuck are you on about? It's a show where there's aa cat humanoid that can deatroy a universe. Who cares about friction.

>>88946119
It is not true

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>>88946197
except it is he did all of this and more in super you ass diddle

>>88945024
>Immune to time stop
i thought it was time leap
if it was that means goku can attack outside of time

that means he can attack without attacking goku can move so fast he can leave time to attack you when you werent being attacked thats some speed force level fuckery

>>88946329
It was not his power you fucking retard. It was the effect of the "gods must not fight" rule.

>>88946160
Okay, say we ignore the massive heat produced from the friction. He'd still be poking his head at the speed of light. Meaning that he'd probably kill himself since his skull would be receiving 190 quadrillion joules of force. It only takes 33-34 to break bones.

Pretty bold strategy there, Cotton.

>>88946744
He can moves billions of time the speed of light and can withstand a hit that can destroy a galaxy. Again this is anime. Even worse this is Dragon Ball. Who cares again? Oh wait you.

>>88947060
Well apparently you do as well if you keep replying to me.

And of course I care. This is fun. =)
So how does he move billions of times the speed of light w/o instant transmission?

>>88947148
By flying duh.

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>>88911646
well... this motherfucker did kill him...

>>88947353
Really? I looked into that earlier I haven't seen proof of that. If you have a source I'd love to see it. I did see some shit about snake way and moving faster than sound, but not light.
Which by the way is literally fucking impossible. Hell the 190 gorrilion joules thing was only at 99%.
But as you said, cartoons/anime. But at that point this whole conversation has been pointless. Aside from being a fun distraction from my job.

>>88947353
Also how would he know where he's going? If he's going faster than the thing he needs for his eyes to work he'd be flying blind. I guess You could say he's navigating by using the chi of living organisms, but whats to stop him from going face first into a rock? Or a building? Or the planet they're fighting on?

Toriyama explained it kinda like that.
Goku is a 7 in Battle of Gods, Beerus is an 11, and whis like 14.

>>88947827
That shit got retconed

>>88947827
Goku and Vegeta are more like a 9 now.

>>88947148
not sure how cannon DBZ dub is but apparently the Special Beam Cannon is the speed of light and Raditz was able to dodge it.

>>88948129
It's been pretty inconsistent overall. Some of what I've read stated that ki attacks don't work like light, others say they do. Apparently Freiza's little finger blast thing is as fast as a bullet but also the fastest thing in the show but it's also not.

So far it's been the most annoying thing.

>>88918334
Tien and Krillin (the strongest human, according to Toriyama) are supposedly around SSJ1 power levels at the end of Z (Buu Saga), but never had a need to use it. Piccolo was the only character to get past SSJ2 power for a non-Saiyan...

You'll also notice they dropped "power levels" past the Freeza arc.

>>88948206
speed is even more ridiculous to measure in DBZ than powerlevels , what stopped anyone from dodging the spirit bomb , it seems to move very slow and even with its size most characters should be able to out run it.

>>88948313
This is also the guy who though Yamcha was a werewolf.
>>88948333
Nice Trips. The Spirit Bomb baffles me because of that. Why would anyone bother with a bright ball that draws attention to you, and takes 5 min to charge? Do you know how long 5 minutes feels like when you're getting punched in the face. Feels like a long time.

>>88918722
He's not making anything up, he's using actual rules put forth in the series itself... I guess you've not actually seen/read Dragonball or Dragonball Z.

>>88927410
From the beginning of the Namek saga to the end of the Freeza saga, it's a total of 72 episodes (Episodes 36-107).

Yes, it's a long arc, but if you're gonna make the joke, at least make sure it isn't debated so easily...

>>88928095
Commander Red was the one who wanted to be taller (Hence why it was the RED Ribbon Army), he killed Piccolo Daimao in a full out battle, and only barely killed him so as to survive... he also spared Piccolo (Jr) at the end of Dragonball, giving him a Senzu bean to make sure he survived even. Get your facts right before going on a tirade, please.