Marvel keeps up the degeneracy

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>>88884298
I think I'm going to be sick

Before this thread devolves into a /pol/ shitfire I'm going to point out that this is parody, it's OBVIOUSLY parody of left-wingers, these are villains, and if you can't tell that you have no reading comprehension.

>>88884298
>>88884309
you do realize these are the bad guys yes? or are you just retarded

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>>88884309
/pol/ was right

>>88884309
>Didn't even pull the pin off

>>88884329
>>88884331
No I didn't know that. I don't read Marvel comics.

>>88884329
>>88884331
I agree that is Spencers intent but Mexican Falcon still agrees with their cause which makes it seem like they are still morally or even logically sound. The only thing the characters disapproved of was their methods.

>>88884298
>>88884309
This is comedy gold. It can't be serious in context. It's just too funny. Comedy this good doesn't happen by accident.

>>88884363
You should be able to tell that from the OP image alone, genius.

> Marvel panders to the tumblr crowd
> people complain
> Marvel does this
> people complain

comic fans, everyone.

Why is Nick Spencer so bad at writing about political issues

Like he can't even do parody right

>>88884423
It's satire, but faggot OP snipped out the pics off twitter to sperg out.

>>88884309
>>88884332
Fucking hell you and your Twitter screencaps when you could grab the entire hi-res pages in a thread right next to this one
And people ITT WILL defend OP and say he's not a crossboarder

>>>/pol/

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>>88884367
Their cause is "she's a bitch." and their methods are "we're gonna murder her."

Given that earlier that issue she directly called him out by name, he's probably going to agree that she's a bitch.

>>88884367
That's the rub, ain't it? On a basic level, you want to side with people that obviously don't have it as good as another group. But then you see them come across as pieces of shit with self righteous attitudes and a general disregard for tact because they think popular opinion will make them untouchable to scrutiny. At that point, you want to see them driven into the ground even further because humans naturally hate assholes, thus the frustration that sets in when they're proven "half right" in fiction.

It's a lack of understanding exactly that sort of nuanced outlook on human reaction that makes these "Knowing is half the battle" childish moral lessons in modern cape comics so frustrating. If they were realistic about it, which is at least partly the goal with modern comics vis a vis their penchant for taking up timely social causes, you'd have at least a few characters start to go "god damn, these people are annoying the shit out of me, I just want all of them to shut the fuck up" instead of giving them complete moral absolution and unquestioning solidarity.

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>>88884298
you didn't actually read the comic, did you? you just saw one of your anti-sjw twitters or tumblrs post these pictures without context, got triggered, and came running here to complain

news flash THEY'RE THE VILLAINS

>>88885034
>you didn't actually read the comic, did you?
OP obviously did, and took out of context panels to make a bait thread.

>>88884298
>This will be posted by /pol/acks with no understanding of its context ad nauseum for the forseeable future

As if the crossboarders werent bad enough already.

>>88884298
>two of them are white and cis
Accurate but triggering

>>88885114
The guy is a gook.

>>88884966
tl;dr

>>88884298
the /pol/ threads weren't enough for you?

serious question- why can't /pol/tards understand sarcasm?

>>88884298
The irony of a degenerate 4chan cuck whining about others being degenerates never stops being funny.

>>88885034
Actually I saw it on /pol/. We're pissed off over there.

>>88885247
You could go over to the storytime and understand its context.

But that wouldn't benefit your narrative of SJWs having a monopoly on Comics so you'll just ignore it in favour of getting angry over incorrect information.

>>88885185
Because they were born without a sense of humor.

>>88884426
More like Trumpsters everybody.

>>88885247
well no shit you people are retards who get pissed off over everything

>>88885247
What a sad existence it is over there. You guys are just the other side of the SJW coin.

>>88885380
Trumprinas sounds better.

>>88885335
It would still have the pro illegal immigration stance.

>>88885247
Literally nobody cares about /Stormfront-Lite/. Go back there and never come back.

>>88885247
>In another news: the grass is green

>>88885034

I like that page.

>Well, you're still old

>>88885403
Drumpfbelinas

>>88884298
it's still better than the new Venom run.

>>88884329
>It was satire.

This has happened too many times seriously for me to start believing this is satire.

>>88885380
Nah, people that like capeshit are mostly bitter manchildren, left or right or inbetween.

Bombshells? Isn't she in Ultimate Spider-Man?

>>88885468
Drumpfrinas.

Ugh, this is harder than expected.

>>88885034
Note that these panels will get posted over and over again and nobody will have read the comic

>>88885153
Chinese, Japanese, and Korean count as white in the context of triggerings.

>>88885437
fuck off faggot retard
you tumblrina SJW can't have a conversation for 2 minutes with out calling people who disagree with you even slightly a Nazi

The sad thing about this comic it isn't a parody it is an accurate portrait of people like YOU

>>88885185
>serious question- why can't /pol/tards understand sarcasm?
it's probably tied to your inability to spot obvious bait

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>>88884298
I'm not even mad, I'm just laughing.

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>reading nick spencer books
Rocks in glass houses.

>>88884298
>When we lose hard what do we do? DOUBLE DOWN!
I love how civilization is finally collapsing in on itself.
President Trump is the greatest thing to have ever happened.

>>88885542
or maybe your reading comprehension is just shit

>>88885633
Not that guy. But yeah, no, this is clearly a parody. Are you retarded?

>>88885034
But didn't he take a black superhero's job?

>>88885034
>news flash THEY'RE THE VILLAINS

The heroes do not disagree with "the villains" stance only their methods.

It is slightly moderate leftist VS SJW level leftists
They are all still leftists fighting over which leftism is correct

this is the false narrative of this bullshit

>>88885754
THEY'RE THE BAD GUYS YOU FUCKING IDIOT. YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO AGREE WITH THEM >>88885034

>>88885787
So what do you want exactly? What will satisfy you?

>>88885767
It is a parody but the fact the SJW/Sanders crowd behave exactly like them is still an accurate portrayal of them

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>this thread

>>88885791
How am I an idiot if this looks like it came straight out of Whor?
If anyone is an idiot it's anyone at Marvel who thought this SJW thing was a good place to go. We've gotten to the point that their satire can't be told apart from their literal SJWs.

But hey, stay mad and in the dark about why no one likes Marvel anymore.

>>88885818
If comics insist on being political show reasonable arguments from both sides maybe?
OR
Comics shouldn't be political?

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>>88885787
This kind of thing isn't anything new.

>>88884329
Seems pretty obvious even without full context

But really if people get triggered by this then there really is no hope for /co/

>>88885833
Really faggot?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grD_IINiH9c

>>88885870
it was stupid back then as well

>>88885934
yeah, we know you're just as pathetic as that. You don't need to do a whole show and tell presentation about it.

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>>88885833
>Impotent
>has the House, Senate and Presidency

>>88886051
>NO U!
>/co/mblr

>>88885864
but I thought you were all about muh triggered outraged feelings trump yours?

>>88885906
But the heroes hold the exact same beliefs as the bad guys
Marvel has gotten so bad the difference between the heroes and villains is HOW you advance leftist ideals.

>>88886066
And yet you still feel emasculated and have to wave your dick around like an obnoxious tween, as if by actibg like a spoiled baby it somehow would make your insecurities disappear

>>88886066
He has it, you don't. More importantly, all that power isn't going to stop people from calling him out on his shit and making fun of him.

>>88885833
So was this like the Times Madame President cover?

>>88885034
But he didn't take a white superhero's job, he took a black one's and he also stole his animal partner.

>>88886159
>#BirdJobsMatter

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>>88886128
>Marvel has gotten so bad the difference between the heroes and villains is HOW you advance leftist ideals.

why even read comics if this triggers you so much? they've always been like this.

>>88886179
Birds are very important

>>88885247
When are you people not pissed off

>>88885034
No, that's pretty clear, but the dialogue is still really cringy. It screams "RIPPED FROM THE HEADLINES!!" in a way that is going to really date the comic in a few years.

>>88886326
Marvel Comics have always been about being in the now.

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>>88885870
>casuals

>>88886231
They're more important than humans., like all fauna and flora.

>>88886351
But they usually end up like dad trying to sound hip, alas.

>>88885247

You guys are literally worse than SJWs, your more easily triggered and even more hypocritical.

>>88886066
drumpf didnt even win Hillary got the most votes this election was hacked into by russia the electrical college is literally the same way the nazis took over ugh I literally cant even

>>88884966
Faggot

>>88885185
Pol is circlejerking over panels from Muh Phoenix thinking they're real. They're idiots

>>88886066
And most governships. And in a couple of months the Supreme Court.

>>88887440
Thread link?. I wanna laugh at them

>>88885247
>We're pissed off over there.
This should be your slogan

>>88887475
Not worth it anymore some fucking Canadian told them about muh phoenix

>>88885437
Didn't /pol/ pretty much elected a president just with their meme magic?

>>88886144
Unless he enacts libel laws.

>>88887957
Which he will.

>>88887969
If he does that, conservatives would actually be hurt far more. Most of the stuff the media says about Trump is actually true, since they mostly quote him verbatim.

>>88885906
>There is really no hope for /co/ because I easily get fooled by posters from /pol/ or /tv/

Bravo

How well does this comic do in sales anyway.

>>88885864
Sometimes both sides aren't reasonable

And art is inherently political

>>88888001
>Most of the stuff the media says about Trump is actually true
Hahahaha no, it is really not. I actually don't like Trump at all and I'm sure he is gonna be a horrible president, but what the media has been saying is at best misrepresentation of his ideas at worst downright made up stories.

>>88888052
It just got released today.

>>88888052
It does ok

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>>88888084
>I'm not defending Trump, but...

>>88888065
I hate this phrase because it use a broad definition of the word politic when it is clear what people means. No, art is not political, if it is political(aka it is use to futher a political agenda) it is called propaganda.

>>88884966
Actual good commentary being ignored while everyone responds to bait.

>>88888084
>at best misrepresentation of his ideas at worst downright made up stories.
Care to give examples anon?

>>88888114
I'm defending Trump as far as media representation is concerned. I'm not defending his actual policies and real bad ideas like climate change denial.

>>88888065
>art is inherently political
This doesn't mean what people on this board seem to think it means.

Faggot OP should be banned

>>88884298
>portray SJWs as crazy villains
>this is somehow bad
Only retard here is you, libtard.

>>88888172
>I'm defending Trump
Thanks for admitting it.

>>88884363
>I don't read marvel comics

Well there's your fucking problem mate.

Please remedy this by breaking your fucking kneecaps.

>>88886066
>Has the House, Senate and Presidency

But at the cost of his hair and dignity.

>>88884298
What comic even is this? Obviously one I haven't been following, which begs the question, why should I care?

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>>88888219
>reading marvel comics

>>88888239
No cost then?

>>88888247
>Complaining about them when you don't read them.

You don't walk into someone else's house and complain that they didn't make dinner for you, do you?

>>88888239
He never had dignity

>>88888277
I do, all the time.

>>88888241
Sam Wilson Captain America

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>>88888277
Wow a food analogy. The shitposting is complete.

>>88888139
Well comics have been built on the foundation of propaganda. This triggers the question, why get upset at something doing what I lit has always done.

>>88888084
>but what the media has been saying is at best misrepresentation of his ideas at worst downright made up stories.


Maybe he should stop tweeting hyperbollic shit and make proper, clear public statements, so he wouldn't need his lackeys constabtly stumble over each other when they try to spin his words into something sensible, yet managing only contradicting what the others have said on the record and making the entire thing even more muddled

>>88886215
I see cap punching a leftist, why would that trigger anyone on the right?

Nazis are just democrats who are honest about how they feel toward minorities.

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>>88888283
Yeah, as Dilbertman will tell you, sometimes a salesperson will humiliate themselves on purpose so they can feed on that and gain confidence. And his confidence gains are very great.

>>88888319
I could've made a refugee analogy anon, then this shitstorm would've really gotten going.

>>88888139
Art isn't always political, but a lot of art throughout history has served as political commentary.

>>88888314
Really? We're getting triggered over political views being expressed in CAPTAIN AMERICA? I mean honestly?

Cudos to op for spreading propaganda though

>>88884355
Fun fact: Grenade spoons don't always fly off 59 feet like in the movies kid. Sometimes they come off when the grenade makes contact with whatever it's thrown at

This board is so fucking predictable at times

>>88888393
>We're getting triggered over political views being expressed in CAPTAIN AMERICA?
New to Cap comics?

>>88888349
Because propaganda today is far more caustic than it ever was. Because more people than ever are capable of doing it thanks to social media. And more people than ever are able to see it and become influenced by it.

>>88888440
>propaganda today is far more caustic than it ever was
Have you never been in a political cartoon thread?

>>88888440
Read up on the election of 1800, boyo

>>88888434
Are you?

>>88888440
But this doesn't address why there is an issue with comics doing it when it always has. Marvel especially have a history of siding with a specific side. I'm not talking about propaganda as a whole, I'm talking about in this specific medium in which propaganda has laid the ground work.

>>88888434
To be honest, I've really been a Cap fan. He's got plenty of great villains, I've just never cared enough about him or his cast to bother following him.

>>88888176
Well most people on this board are idiots who think getting mad at funny pictures for illustrating political views is a rational position.

>>88888504
That doesn't really change my argument. Media is capable of doing far more today than ever simply because of the sheer masses it can reach.

>>88888541
Social media indirectly affects how we see comics now. Sometimes directly. Whether it's from Twitter, or some clickbait news article, the media shapes how we react to the propaganda presented in current comics, and anything else.

>>88888541
They're being incredibly obnoxious and hamfisted after decades of being not too much of that.
Remember, Miller's Holy Terror was universally reviled.

>>88888440
more like people just fucking want to be insulted on purpose so that they can then vent out by bitching about shit on the internet

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>>88888416
>Hero pulls grenade with teeth
Like I can get other action conventions but this one is so fucking weird

Massive tooth damage aside, why not take the extra second to just use your fucking hands?

>>88888638
Because it was very bad.
>painting with your cancer-ridden dick
Ugh.

>>88888638
Holy Terror was pretty bad

>>88888638
>>88888666

The art was good, the story was shit but then again, it wasn't particularly funny as satirical propaganda

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>>88888702
Best panel imo because of how unintentionally funny the dialogue is.

I voted for the president-elect and I love Spencer's Cap books. He respects Gruenwald continuity and that's all that matters. His fucking twitter though, woof.

>>88888724
holy shit, I didn't remember the dialog being this over the top

>>88885857
>How am I an idiot if this looks like it came straight out of Whor?
Asking this question is what makes you an idiot.

>>88888613
The media puts said comic on a platform, you decide how you feel about it. It's as simple as that.
>>88888638
Captain America was literally punching Nazi scum in the shit. They even introduced multiple black heroes at the starting peak of the civil rights movement to show support. On top of all that they marketed many of those books with various black heroes fighting racism.

>>88888724
At last, a panel where you can see what's happening!

>/co/ doesn't understand satire
Holy fuck, is this the dumbest board on 4chan? No wonder you read funny books meant for children, none of you have any reading comprehension.

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>>88888786
>>88888724
>>88888702
Excuse me, my name is, euh, Mr. Rellim (yes, that will do), and I think that Frank Miller fellow is an excellent creator.

>>88888825
It was still something that cape comics had largely grown out of in the 90s and 00s. You'd just have the odd "Doom cries at the 9/11 memorial" which, once again, everyone made fun of.

>>88888724
How is the strawmanning here any more egregious than what Spencer does?

>>88889015
It never really grown out of, just fell to the wayside. Even still doesn't change the fact it had been going on forever

>>88885820
That's what it's parodying, numbnuts.

>>88889015
The 90s, when the X-Men and Vertigo were at the height of their popularity, and the 00s when they introduced a black Captain America and the biggest event was called Civil War

Yup, no politics at all there

>>88888613
It affects how people who don't read comics views comics.

>>88889309
Vertigo titles were never popular and were a "loss leader" because they were "critically acclaimed"
Sandman TPB were the only Vertigo title that ever sold even remotely well

>>88889015
>It was still something that cape comics had largely grown out of in the 90s and 00s

Mugga, you cray or just ignorant. They still did those. People just didn't get anal prolapse from too much butthurt over them. You had all kinds of shit from gay characters coming out of the closet, huge push for feminism with the exponential amount of new bad ass women characters, pro-gun control specials in the wake of school shootings becoming big news, teen pregancy stories, other random shit like informational HIV/AIDS short story with Sandman's Death in it... Comics have always been progressive.

>>88884363

>I don't read things, I just base my opinion off cherry picked images

This is literally /pol/ in a nutshell.

>>88889399
>Vertigo titles were never popular
Hi casual.

>>88888379
Nazis were reactionaries wanting to restore the glory of the German Reichs.

Stalinism were radical leftists.

Read a fucking history book sometime.

>>88889568
>Read a fucking history book sometime.
Says the low class.

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>>88884329
Context isn't important when you've got a popular company to shit on.

Marvel knows what it did wrong. It should've been bought by a giant media conglomerate in the 60's instead of the 2000's. Then we'd turn a blind eye to their sjw agendas.

>>88888880
It's /pol/ getting triggered, not /co/. You can even go to /pol/ and see the thread that sent them all here still in the archive.

>>88889620
>It should've been bought by a giant media conglomerate in the 60's
Well, they were in 1970. Cadence Industries was its name.

How soon until this pops up in every goddamn /v/ LOL thread?

>>88889620
Really too late to turn a blind eye to an agenda they pushed almost out the gate.

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Spencer continues to please absolutely no one.

B R A V O

>>88884426
How is Moon Knight doing under marvel right now? I haven't had time to read them yet but I hope its not as shit as the rest

>>88889788
It's pretty decent

>>88889783
Where will you be the day SJWs finally resort to physical violence?

>>88889819
Probably at home watching a riot on TV

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>>88889706
>almost out the gate
It's almost as if the majority of comic book creators out there have been leftists for decades.

It's not like DC would publish anything with leftist values or anything.

>>88884298
>>88884309
>>88884332
Holy fucking shit, I'm getting real sick of you fuckers.
>>88884363
ESPECIALLY motherfuckers like you.

This is satirical in the same sense that the SCUM Manifesto is satirical. Sure, you might have written this one thing to skewer a target for laughs and garner attention, but when you spend the rest of your time shooting Andy Warhol, it's actually pretty understandable when people take that thing at face value.

At least we got another round of false equivalencies between the overt-but-genuine political slant of past creators and the smug styled, politics-as-games shit people squeeze through their asshole now. /co/ never misses a beat on that.

This is a obvious bait thread and look at how many people are biting.

>>88889451
>gay characters coming out of the closet,
Marvel did that with Northstar, and it resulted in an immediate line-wide turn to conservatism because the attention made them scared e.g. PAD's abortion story in X-Factor was butchered into incoherence.

>huge push for feminism with the exponential amount of new bad ass women characters,
That's a fetish, not feminism.

>pro-gun control specials in the wake of school shootings becoming big news,
I don't remember any of these.

>teen pregancy stories,
The only one of these I can recall was Spoiler in Robin and that was conservative Chuck Dixon subtly pushing an anti-premarital sex and anti-abortion agenda.

>Comics have always been progressive.
"Progressive" is not how I'd describe superheroes, who started out as lone wolf vigilantes who use physical force to stop criminals that the government is unable to handle.

>>88885247
You guys are exactly as bad as SJWs and the fact that you don't realize it means you're fucking retards.

>>88890079
They started out as lone wolf vigilantes fighting corrupt government and capitalists

>>88890194
>citation needed
Superman was a hero for the working class, but he definitely wasn't a commie.

>>88890194
/tv/ kids are really bad at baiting.

>>88890033
Then leave. What's the problem?

>>88884298
>>88884309
Oh, did the comic hurt your tiny little feelings? Have you been triggered?

>>88884424
To be honest, it's hard to say anymore.

>>88885247
Post the thread.

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It took a long time for me to understand this, but let me help you guys out...

Marvel comics, currently, are not for you.

I'm sure sales will eventually decline and they'll have their own rebirth situation where they try to get in all the old fans, etc. So for now, sit back and relax. There's plenty to love at DC, Image and Dark Horse right now.

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>>88884298
>>88884309

>>88884298
>>88884309
Ha! Holy fuck Spencer. I don't know what to say. I don't even like you but this shit is gold.
9/10
Shine on you glorious basterd.

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>>88890618
What the fuck is this...

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>>88884298
>Marvel takes the piss out of SJWs
>/pol/ gets butthurt
I hope you know this is why people pander to you so rarely.

>>88890618
>fake boobs

>>88890301
He's easily trolled by the most transparent bait just because it tries to sound like /pol/

>>88890958
I mean I keep hearing it but all I see is OP who's obviously fake.

>>88885247
>/pol/ get triggered by out of context pannel
Just like tumblr.

Oh Fuck all kinds of duck. I quit comics.

>>88891205
>SJWs get made fun of ONCE and they quit comics
Haha oh wow. Grow thicker skin, libtard.

>>88891205
You.

>>88891267
>>88891205
Samefag.

>>88884331
after seeing /co/-tards blast waid cause they took a joke about microagressions seriously, I wouldn't be surprised
subtlety isn't for the average capeshit fan

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>>88891309
Try again, champ.

>>88892171
>joke
Rhymes with WOKE

>>88886141
That sounds like the rallying cry of the extreme left over the past 8 years, oddly.

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>>88885034
Marvel are still SJWs.

>>88886051
weak.

>>88884424
Name one thing in the OP image, alone and taken without any knowledge or context, that suggests those characters are meant to be supervillains.

>>88889819

On /pol/ watching America burn

>>88892290

Because it's incredibly on the nose. But I will play devils advocate and acknowledge that the writing at Marvel is so shit that somebody would write this and play it straight

>>88885633
>calling people who disagree with you even slightly a Nazi

/pol/ is legit full of pro-Nazi stuff like every day. It's like their whole thing. Normally they're proud of it. And here you come all "I'm from /pol/ but don't call me a Nazi"?

It doesn't work, famalam.

ITT: /co/ doesn't get satire

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>>88892357
The second page was conceivably "too on the nose" but the OP image is fucking nothing.

>>88884298
>>88884363

>Getting mad about shit you don't read

Why? I don't know why /pol/ gets mad about comics giving leftist messages anyway nobody reads comics. They especially got mad at that election issue of Faith. I tried to tell them that less than 15000 copies will be sold to stores but they were on a roll at that point

>>88892431

Really? "Tolerance - or else!" was enough for me

>>88892462
it's called fake outrage
you get the ball of shit rolling, you shovel more shit on it as it rolls down and the ball gets bigger and bigger until you have a nice shit avalanche

>>88889620
Green Arrow has always been a liberal
He's so liberal he annoys people around him

>>88892462
>They especially got mad at that election issue of Faith

I'm pretty sure /pol/ types have given more coverage to Faith than anyone else. Hell, I hadn't heard of her before all the shitstorm.

>>88889819
They already have

>>88892246
>People treat us like criminals
>mother never got a citizenship, is 100% and illegal and brought you into America illegally

Son, you ARE a criminal. You are literally not supposed to be here. You aren't even an anchor baby.

I never get these excuses they make, ya know? Like as if it matters that you want to come in and get a better life. Gee, you still broke the law. If I wanted to steal money from a millionare in order to buy a house for a homeless family, I'd still be a criminal for breaking the law.

>>88892510
A line like that just reads as stock teen superteam banter to me.

>>88892547
Its amazing how good they are at giving the people they hate more publicity.

>>88892547
Well I hope the shitstorm caused you to check out some Valiant comics, so at least something could will have come to their rampant shitflinging.

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>>88887475
Here ya go
>>>/pol/105616541

>>88892567
2/10, you can do better than that.

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>>88889620
You know nothing of Green Arrow, faggot.

>>88892431
>this campus is a safe space - for everyone but YOU
seems pretty unsubtle to me but i dunno

>>88892628

Nobody was checking out more Valiant after reading that shit

>>88892632
Anyone else like Faiza Captain Britain? I enjoyed her development as a character.

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>>88892398
Spew your /pol/phobic bile elsewhere, bigot.

>>88892632

It's always an Australian that starts those threads and a Kiwi who posts in them with actual knowledge of whats going on. He is of course completely ignored

>>88892668
I could totally imagine a team of X-Men or Teen Titans or maybe even Gen13 if they were still around shouting a line like that.

I mean, they'd usually be doing it with a sort of ironic quipping tone, but that's usually not something inherent in the text, it's something a reader brings with them by knowing what to expect from characters' personalities.

>>88885608
Can confirm r/kotakuinaction think it's legit

>>88892741
>>88892668
>>88892431

I could see Champions saying shit like this so I can't be mad at anybody not realizing this is satire. Comic writing is in a real shit state these days

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>>88892398
>>88892722
>stereotypes are true or stop over-generalizing people

>The story by Nick Spencer is certainly intended to satirize extreme social justice warriors as well as their opponents, but ultimately carries an unambiguously progressive message. In the comic, released this month, Captain America Sam Wilson’s new sidekick Joaquin Torres—the Falcon—opines about a stand-in for Lauren Southern and Milo Yiannopoulos whose anti-illegal immigrant rhetoric on a TV show enrages him. Falcon teams up with a superhero named Rage, and they both head down to a college campus to mock her and speak their minds.
>As the two superheroes are addressing her, a group of three costumed characters calling themselves Bombshells show up and attempt to kill her. They spout Tumblrisms like “safe space” and rant about the “patriarchy.” They condemn Joaquin and his friend for “empowering abusers” and the “culture of hate.”
>The comic’s writer, Nick Spencer, also helms the main Captain America series. He previously came under fire for turning Steve Rogers into a Nazi, with heavy criticism levied against him from the progressive left, as well apolitical readers who consider his heavy-handed politicization of the classic character unnecessary and unwanted.
>The Marvel writer is clearly lashing out at his critics, perhaps unaware that his comics make him sound exactly like the social justice trio he created to be satirical—especially with his narration. In many ways, the narrative promoted by the issue is more insidious than the over-the-top Bombshells, intended to make his politics more palatable to the reader.
>One must ask: what kind of comic book plot starts with a main character going to a campus to protest an alt-right speaker?
http://heatst.com/culture-wars/marvels-latest-comic-loves-and-laughs-at-campus-leftism/

>>88892632
>/pol/ caught on almost immediately
How disappointing.
I guess /co/ is really worse than /pol/ now

>>88892894
You do know OP's from /pol/?
Right?

>all these leftmost tumblrinas on /co/
Nuke the board
This writing, these comics, should be unacceptable on a professional level. Anyone with more than three brain cells should be able to understand this.

>>88892902
He's clearly not, this is all so obviously bait.
Wait /co/ can't tell the difference.

>>88892833
>these days

It must be nice to still be so young and inexperienced.

>>88892902

You do know he's b8ing and he got what he wanted, right?

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>>88892869
>apolitical readers

>>88892922
No seriously, he's from /pol/
See >>88885247
The thread in question >>88892632

>>88892735
Of course. One has the blood of a criminal and one has the blood of a true proper citizen.

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>The left are mad because Bombshells were meant to parody them in this issue.
>The right are mad because they can't understand the context and just concentrate on how the Milo expy is the real villain.

>>88884298
Somebody please tell me they are some self-righteous villains that know no shit about real life

>>88884298
>>88884309

I may just be autistic, but this feels like deliberate parody, not genuine writing.

>>88893081
They are.
They're villains, evil, wannabe assassins, millennials who don't do anything, etc.

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>there are actual """adults""" in this thread mad at /pol/ because omgurd ur just like SJWs!!11
>these same people read Marvel Comics

lol

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If Gruenwald wrote Captain America today how many people would he have pissed off?

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>>88885034

>oh look, it's Captain Patriarchy

>>88892998

The Horsehoe theory continues to be strong.

>>88884298
I wasnt sure this was satire till i read the next page>>88884309

Topest of keks

>>88893164
t. I believe that she will win

>>88884298
Is this Nextwave? This feels like Nextwave.

>>88893279
>Carpenter
As in John? Because if those faggots are picking on based John Carpenter...

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The faggots ITT that don't support Trump or /pol/ tell me, is this what you're all about?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rfzvrCwjfLE&ebc=ANyPxKpZhiqUevcegZV0SHPt5O4EeZKYjAMYAmHq547Bwo5wEOMT1BSTB3B4nyvSqcSRbYDmla6UZK2gmiJrFsuBuYP2kg1pmw

You fuckers sure do love you're niggers. Why don't you go try living near them?

>>88893326
did your dumb tumblr ass even read the paragraph

>>88893345
I don't like niggers
I like black people

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>>88892942
>He says he's from /pol/
Yeah I buy that as completely genuine and not at all bait.

>>88893479
who would go on the internet and tell lies

>>88893367
Answer the question, boy.

>>88893154
Flag Smasher actually appeared 2 issues ago.

>>88893345
jesus fucking christ what the fuck

>>88893556
Seriously?
Geez, I wonder why he didn't cause a commotion.

>>88892703
I like Faiza but not as Captain Britain. Under Claremont, CB's powers were tied to Arthurian legend. Arthurian legend was generated out of nativist fear of invading cultures (breton v. saxon). To give the mantle of an Arthurian hero to a person from what many view as an invading culture is a slap in the face. Cornell giving her Excalibur was bad enough, but Ewing's cuckdom is egregious.

>>88893108
this
can someone please confimr this
i just don´t know anymore

>>88885437
>Literally nobody cares about /Stormfront-Lite/
>a board that literally shitposted so hard it changed the course of human history

>>88893616
/pol/ told there was a difference tho

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>>88893154
Diamondback traded sex for fancy weapons with Paste Pot Pete, there would be a whole lot of shaking going on.

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>>88893614
Dunno, I figured this page would cause a stink but I guess /col/ doesn't get triggered by liberal villains, only conservative ones. At least, that's what I figured until today.

Also, Spencer's run is just one big homage to Gruenwald's.

>>88893701
Stop pretending to be retarded. You know full well that this is a joke at the SJW's expense.

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Modern day social uproars + Marvel's editorial staff + twitter + Ike Perlmutter's shitty values for working conditions =modern Nick Spencer

>>88893730
Wasn't Diamondback based on his wife?

>>88885607
The term is Drumphalumphapumphahumphabalomphalumphs

>>88893846
>Ike Perlmutter's shitty values for working conditions
Are you somehow under the impression that the creatives don't work from home?

>>88893895
Trumpilinas?

>>88888644
It's carrying your gun at the ready.

>>88884298
fem thor is dying from cancer prety soon bois
the drops in sales was too much for god ol marvel

>>88884363
and by doing that you are smarter then most of the people on this board

>>88893907
It's the editors who have to deal with skinflint Ike.

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>>88884309
>"Trigger warning!"

That's a grenade you dumb fuck, you had a perfectly good chance to brandish a gun, shout 'trigger warning' and then shoot and you waste it on this?!

>>88894167
Probably why they don't do their jobs

>>88893722
Maybe 1 out of every 1000000 blacks is a good person. Hardly worth noticing.

>>88893869
If anything, that would be Sabra.

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>>88894240
I see what you did there

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>>88893791
I wonder if people who complain about Spencer's run uses politics are aware about Gruenwald's run to begin with?
Cap literally lost faith in his country after unmasking someone who was blatantly supposed to be Nixon.

>>88894346
Most of /co/ isn't aware of any comic from before 1986

>>88884298
>>88884309
>>88884332
>Im posting it again
It's not even been 24/7 you shitposter

>>88885034
I remember people using the Injustice comic and claiming it was all agenda.
I also remember a /pol/ thread where at least some people recognized it was from Injustice and demanded the OP to keep posting the context when Regime Superman talked about gun control with The Flash.

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>>88884309
>Falcon's reaction
Kek

>>88892667
I know he's been used as a mouthpiece for liberal writers since the 70s. But it doesn't matter, because it's okay when deecee does it.

>>88896100
>it's okay when deecee does it.
Because DC tends to find ways to avoid being cringey as fuck most of the time. Marvel on the other hand tries it's hardest for maximum cringe.

>>88889620
Green Arrow was always like that.
That and he's a social justice warrior in the way that he actually tries to fight for social justice, which is not what sjws do.

>>88896193
>he's a social justice warrior but I like him as a character so he's not ACTUALLY a social justice warrior

>but dey r da bad guys
cringe is fucking cringe
no sane person wants tumblr surrogates or ann coulter pastiches in their cape books
this book is just being used as a soap box for the writer to signal how woke he is but is totally not one of the "bad ones"
fuck off if you defend this garbage

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'Member when 4chan used to be about having fun and being degenerate assholes together?
'Member when 4chan wasn't obsessed with trying to be better than everyone else?
I 'member.

>>88896159
>b-but it is okay when dc does it
Thanks for clearing that up with your pretentious opinions, dcfriend.

>>88894390
>Most of /co/ isn't aware of any comic from before 1986
Anon, Gruenwald's run ran from the late 80s through the early 90s.

>>88897694
clearly /co/ isn't aware of many comics from after 1986 either

>>88896100
But Green Arrow's been paired with a conservative foil who is also a respectable superhero when his liberalism is explored.
Hal Jordan and Hawkman were used as these foils (mainly because they were cops to begin with) but they weren't played as strawmen who were 100% wrong.

>>88885429

This. I just read the storytime. If you think this is a balanced approach that seeks to appease both sides by reaching a balanced view... you're gonna have a bad time.

Sucks

>>88885784
I chuckled upon reading that line. But they just ignored it.

>>88893828
It obviously is, but at the same time [UNSOLICITED OPINIONS ON COMIC BOOKS]

>>88888434

I remember when Brubaker wrote them and they were good.

>>88897694
But the image you posted was from Englehart's run.

You're point stands, though.

>>88897860
>but they weren't played as strawmen
The conservative characters were used as fodder for Green Arrow's biting liberal criticisms. The book was more liberal than anything and it definitely wasn't balanced in any way.

Show me a panel where Green Arrow isn't schooling GL or anybody else on the evils of conservatism. Show me a panel where Ollie actually considers a conservative viewpoint to be positive.

>>88893684
King Arthur was Welsh. Excalibur being held by Braddock was not only already Excalibur being held by an invading culture but being held by THE invading culture.

>>88886066
I'd argue that conservatives are still impotent.

Yeah sure your party is in power for at least 4 years but you have to look ahead man.

Millennial are the largest generation since the baby boomers and they are overwhelmingly liberal and the boomers are dying.

American politics is a shifting landscape and something like this presidency, could just end up rallying liberals for generations. Looking at this objectively, trump doesn't have the best team and even if he did he is going to be one of the most heavily criticised presidents of all time. He'll be demonised more than bush and obama ever were. He would need to pull of a slam dunk to even be known as an "alright" president. And if he fucks up, generations will know the republican party as the party responsible.

Personally I've had a theory for a while that social conservatives vs Progressives is a dying platform anyway. We're going to see such a massive demographic shift that it's going to move to something more like "nationalists" vs "Globalists". I mean heck you see a lot of new wave young conservatives making that argument now.

On an unrelated note, does anyone else get the vibe that young conservatives, being the outlier among their given environments( College campuses and such) are taking the place of counter culture for the modern generation. Like it's a lot less stylish than other counter cultures but it seems to be on the outskirts of young society.

>It's another "/pol/ gets triggered and then tries to pretend like their moral outrage isn't entirely vain and hipocritical, just like the SJW that they love to bitch about" thread

>>88899605
I don't think conservatives are ever going to be considered counter culture, at least not until society at large is overwhelmingly liberal

counter culture is more about "fuck you dad" than "fuck you fellow kids"

>>88886066
You're assuming that other Republicans agree with him or like him in order to pass all his shit.

During the election the old republican leaders hated him, they wanted someone else. They simply had to put up with him. Something people miss is that Trump is almost third party with the way he polarizes everyone, yet he was just like a giant fuck you to the system which is why he was voted in

It might backfire, but going by his policies its hard to entirely call him a Republican in the sense that "he's' guy all three. He will run into some fights with Republicans.

Only way it'll get bad is if they realize they hate each other, but they can still sort of use each other.

>>88899695
right, I kind of agree

But I always saw it as more of a "fuck you authority"

And if you're young you live in a world which is predominantly liberal. Your teachers, peers, friends, Professors, almost everyone you interact with.

I don't know, it's an interesting idea to examine. I don't really think there currently is a predominant counter culture. Even radical liberals are mostly tolerated by their peers.

I wonder if anyones written on anything examining Anti-Counter Culture. Like the boomers that never bought into free love and voted nixon in.

the problem with comics like this, and politics, is that people are a lot less bullshit tolerant. whether it be the religious right or sensitive left, we are more fact oriented and with the internet we can look up or be exposed to wider coverage and views on events. people need to except that a compassionate apathy and logistical rationality are the rising trends on in the more central views and we don't give a shit about offending your god or feelings.

>>88899695

Psst, try graduating college and get a real job first. You'll be surprised on how our fellow 'millenials' turn out.

>>88899605
I dunno, I think that there's a sizable amount of people who are confused/disgusted with the state of the Dems at this point. While I'm sure that Election 2016 alone made some lifelong Democrats, there are also people who lost faith in the party due to its poor conduct and overconfidence, and if it continues to dodge any responsibility for its loss, or keeps fumbling their chances to turn things around, it could possibly lose those people for good. I mean, I could be projecting, but I've seen a few people say something along those lines, so I can't be the only one. Sure, they won't necessarily switch sides, but they're a loss all the same. And there will inevitably be people who flip-flop because of circumstances in their life.

And if we're talking about the future, things might be split 3 ways between nationalists, globalists (who'll be coded as "rich people who are 90% alike except for where they were born"), and some 3rd group of genuine cosmopolitans.

>On an unrelated note, does anyone else get the vibe that young conservatives, being the outlier among their given environments( College campuses and such) are taking the place of counter culture for the modern generation. Like it's a lot less stylish than other counter cultures but it seems to be on the outskirts of young society.

I don't think there CAN be a counter culture anymore - mainstream culture moves too fast now, anything outside of it gets co-opted or forced into a label before it has a chance to fester.

>>88900016
I have done both of those things, as have my immediate age group

most of my friends are still liberal, and those who aren't weren't to begin with

>>88900008
>people are a lot less bullshit tolerant
>we are more fact oriented
o i am laffin

>>88900016
I ended up going full corporate, I'm still liberal and most of the people my age are what I'd call liberal. I mean sure a lot of them seem apathetic towards politics, but they are still left leaning.

>>88900026
>I don't think there CAN be a counter culture anymore - mainstream culture moves too fast now, anything outside of it gets co-opted or forced into a label before it has a chance to fester.
The more I think about it, the more I think you may be right. and when you factor in the fact that we can be marketed to directly based on out beliefs, Ideas of personalised genuine culture become a bit harder to believe in.

>might be split 3 ways between nationalists, globalists (who'll be coded as "rich people who are 90% alike except for where they were born"), and some 3rd group of genuine cosmopolitans.
I do like your Idea of a 3rd group, Probably going to use that again at some point, and I'm half with you on the idea that globalists will just be coded as "rich people". I guess I just personally find it distasteful because I consider myself a globalist and I'd like to think it's because I have faith in the idea that unilateral trade and global interaction helps us all, improving economies and preventing war, and not because it personally benefits me. But then again it's easy to say a rising tide lifts all ships when you aren't the guy with a hole in his boat.

On the subject of the democratic party they'll be fine. they'll realign and move forward. There isn't really a viable alternative for progressives and I think they main thing is winning back the middle class.

>>88889568
>German Reichs

>lecturing anyone on history

Was Rome a German Reich you fucking moron?

>>88900073
certain kinds of bullshit. you have a hard time convincing to do or think things out of blind patriotic duty, moral behavior or sensitivity.

>>88900362
were you just not paying attention to American politics for the past 15 years or so?

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Satire is dead. We live in a world where everyone takes everything relentlessly seriously, especially themselves.

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>>88889568
>Nazis were reactionaries wanting to restore the glory of the German Reichs

>Holy Roman Empire

>German Reich

>>88900387
yeah low voter turn out, lack of trust and confidence and an election where two outsiders with high energy and strong views fought to prominence, just that bernie was up against the clinton crime family.

>>88900474
anon why do you think they called themselves the Third Reich

>>88900474
Type First Reich into Google right now

>>88900426
Eh, it was on its last legs for the last decade or so anyway. What good is satire when people can't actually change anything about the stuff it makes fun of? All it could do near the end was provide fodder for clickbait and Onion articles. Good riddance.

>>88884298
It's funny because the SJWs are absolutely assravaged abkut this.

They think they are being Mocked and You think they are being Endorsed.

>>88900494
>>88900517
Thats my point you samefagging retard, The Holy Roman Empire was the first Reich, it wasnt a German Reich, it was fucking ROMAN.

>>88892246
That copy-paste panel is triggering me more than the politics

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>>88900580
>it was fucking ROMAN

>>88900563
I don't want to live in a world where fucking satire needs to have a purpose beyond simply highlighting aspects of culture that are comical and poking fun at them.

>>88900426
Satire stopped being funny when real life became a parody of itself

>>88900570
>They think they are being Mocked and You think they are being Endorsed.

To be fair, they literally act exactly like this and the shit we've seen out of Marvel the last few years can't make a man assume it's making fun of anyone. I mean, Marvel has published some really, really dumb shit.

>>88893730
Keep in mind, Spenser made her a stripper.

>>88900630
I want to get off this wild ride.

How do we reset the universe?

>>88888219
>not reading marvel
>a problem

wut

>>88894390
I think you mean
>>Most of /co/ doesn't know about comics before Civil War.

>>88892290
>Tolerance - OR ELSE
>Safe space - FOR EVERYONE BUT YOU
You might have brain problems anon. They're clearly being portrayed as hammy hypocrites.

>>88892246
>Mother worked two jobs.
Two jobs that other people lost because they stole them.

>Working the jobs no-one wants to do.
Working jobs at below minimum wages and undercutting the working class who're legally barred for working at those rates.

God I fucking hate these arguments.

>>88900665
Just leave it, anon. You can't teach someone who doesn't want to learn.

>>88900672
>Two jobs that other people lost because they stole them.
You literally can't steal employment. It's an agreement between two people.

>>88900726
Sure you can: whenever someone who isn't a white man gets a job, they stole it from a white man regardless of whether or not a white man wanted to do it or was even aware it existed.

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>>88900747
you gotta go back, puto

>>88899860
Young Republicans actually had their own protests against the draft. They had petitions that had more names then the Young Hippies and Hippies. They just were... well boring. People who just wanted what there parents wanted.

Conservatives tend to be more internal when dealing with issues. They're less likely to lash out unless the issue matters to them a lot. Like I live pretty close to a Catholic girls school and they hired a lesbian because she was qualified and didn't cause a fuss. The only problem came when she wanted to get in vitro fertilization on the schools insurence plan. Catholics are weird when it comes to babies, but the argument was that the kid wasn't conceived through two adults, but rather an entire lab and company. The school said that they wouldn't pay for it and then the teacher sued. Like 90% of the parents didn't give a shit until she sued

Although Catholics are a bad example as they are only conservative because of abortion and Democratic politicians being pretty anti-religion rather than just pro-gay.

>>88884298
I was just pretending to be retarded the series.

>>88900663
This.....THIS

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>>88893136

>There are actual """adults""" in this thread that deprive themselves from all Marvel stuff out of fear of sjws

As with any company there are shit marvel comics and good marvel comics. Knock that company wars shit off and grow up.

>>88901479
Marvel is mostly shit, to be fair

maybe 4 or 5 comics out of like a hundred that are worth reading

>>88901537

I don't care. I'm just tired of childish company wars shit flinging shitting up every other thread. And considering the vast output of the comic industry, 5 good reads for every 100 stories is still more comics than you will probably read in a year.