The Flinstones

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>>88881930
Pebbles and Bam-Bam runaway to find Bam-Bam real parents episode when?

>>88881930
Ancient aliens oh boy

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>>88882275
the pterodactyls are always great in this comic, be it dropping people or eating them

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>>88881990
Did they change the artist? The faces look different

>>88881990
Motherfucking bergs!

>>88881962
>to find Bam-Bam real parents episode when?
I don't think there is much to found.

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>>88882501
Oh. . .Yeah

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>>88882521
The end

>>88882465
...Is Fred Flintstone just a dumber Clark Kent?

>>88882465
>"To care for people who mean nothing to us."
So...we're fucked as a species, aren't we?

>>88882487
Yeah this isn't Pugh

>>88882546
Fred is pure

Eh. This issue is the worst (or least good, anyway) of the bunch so far, in my opinion.

>>88882465
>>88882484
>>88882545

Fred is a 10/10 husbando.

>>88882558
Biologically, Human emotions is weak. In practise though, Its why we are where we are today.
>>88882545
Thanks for the comic dump Anon, this was a fun one.

>>88882612
Yeah, because it is the most serious one. And because it is too right. There was a few hundred years of wars because the church took donations to absolve you of your sins, for example.

>>88882635
I want to protect his Yaba-daba-doo

>>88882651
The others were serious and right as well, but they were more than just morality preaching.

The kids look a bit too old.

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Another 10/10, just like every other issue.

I do have to say that I miss the original artist, though.

>>88881930
Aww shiet nigga.

>>88882640
I think what's most depressing is even though Fred's actions are incredibly commendable they're just a drop in the bucket when compared to human greed and anxiety. We want to believe that we're born with some kind of inherent goodness when it's just blatantly false. I'm not saying that inherent goodness can't exist but when it does it's an aberration.

>>88882757
But that drop in the bucket is what keeps mankind going, after every war, every fight, that inherent goodness is what keeps humanity together.

>>88882241
Ahh, the Roman way

>>88882545
More like Nate Gazoo, am I right?

>>88882484
CHIN

>>88882820
The eternal debate is whether that drop in the bucket is even worth it given all of the terrible things that come before and after it. I would say no because that inherent goodness is an illusion in the first place.

>>88882757
>>88882904
this is giving me more nihilist thoughts than I'd want.

>>88882904
eh, we all have made it this far, we might as well go farther, see how deep we can go.

Dont give up yet Anon, Humanity aint dead yet.

>>88882936
Welcome to 4chan, Porn and Existential crisis await you.

>>88882948
I haven't yet but I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who's on the brink.

>>88882545
fuck I wish Russell was writing the jetsons comic

>>88882487
>>88882567
It's Rick Leonardi, a fucking legendary artist.
He's done better, though.

>>88882546
Nah, Fred is closer to Steve Rogers than Clark Kent.
Homegrown everyman, not an illegal alien. He's not trying to save the world, just trying to do his best everyday; even when sometimes the right thing to do isn't the easiest.

>>88882979
Humanity never could survive alone, thats why we work in such huge groups. We support each other so no one needs to stand alone.

>>88882757
I mean, that's where religion is supposed to come in. It's supposed to put weight on the scale for those tiny drops in the buckets so that they don't feel as a insignificant compared to material wealth and greed and personal gain.

Ideally.

It's a corrective for shortsightedness. Like government. What's best for us in the long term versus what's best for us in the short term versus what's best for us as individuals versus what's best for us as a whole.

>>88882546
Well fucking look at him. The muscles, the jaw, the hair, looks more like Supes than cartoon Fred.
He's missing a Pa to explain why he's such a good guy while most of the rest of the world is populated with turbodouches.

>>88882904
And I, respectfully, disagree.

Any good deed, no matter how small, makes a difference.

>>88883082
Maybe he's Pa and he's the one who gets to explain it one day.

>>88882558
Nah, there are plenty of examples of people caring about those they don't know.

>>88883082

Adam and Steve were the closest thing to a Pa he had.

>>88882083
Fuck this Hitchhiker's Guide bullshit.

>>88882651
Wars existed before that was a thing.

>>88883168
Yeah but they were shit wars because they weren't blessed by Capitalist Jehovah.

Then again, there's something to respect about a group of people that seize power simply because they know they're stronger than the people they seize it from rather than people who seize power because they think they're endorsed by Gawd.

>>88882757
Fuck off jaded teen, there's plenty good being done every day for goodness' sake.
Just look at refugees being accepted by the millions to save their lives, sometimes at the expense of those closer to us.

>>88882651
No, it mostly because the church was grafted onto the Roman war engine upon its decriminalization. Organized religion required integration into the status quo, which was empire and conquest.

Even indulgences were more concerned with public forgiveness for public transgressions than actual personal reassurance.

This is more a send-up of modern, buffet style, Christianity. How can I cut support for the poor and my fellow man and still be a Christian? Find someone who doesn't care and says I am.

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>>88882545
>Hey...won't you believe in him?
>That even if there is no God or Buddha...
>...there is Fred Flintstone

>>88883231
Shhhhh. That's apparently evil to do now. For some reason. People are poison if they aren't the right color or religion or something.

>>88882418
Cheap bastard

>>88883200
God is just an excuse and an enrollment tool, wars are driven by greed for power.

>>88882241
>>88882439
>unicorns rubbing their horns together
Hey, Gatherer, I think Jean Grey has something to tell you

>>88883231
You're joking, right? Neither side of that situation cares about them. One sees them as animals and the other sees them as children.

>>88882055
>She personally knows the marauders

I don't know why but that's hilarious.

>>88882418
Interestingly enough, this is a perfect illustration of the Coase theorem functioning within a religious context in greater capitalist society.

The correct thing for the priest to do would be to tell him it costs more money than he would lose by suspending work to search for the lost worker.

Religion would therefor work to counteract the mundane/financial cost of being good by placing the value of a lost human life as greater than the value of the plant functioning.

But yes, it's also hard for a person of faith to operate like that while also believing in humanity to the extent required to also be a source of genuine spiritual comfort for his flock.

>>88882546
He has his selfish moments.

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>>88883275
Religions means beliefs, beliefs translate into actions. If it were just that it'd be fine.
It's harder to patronize and accept an entire group of people when you know their children are going to be Stoning and Hanging your own descendants simply for their choice of Sexuality or differences in beliefs themselves.

The tolerance doesn't go both ways honestly, that's my only gripe with it. Like why would I invite some stranger into my home who hates me and my family and just wants somewhere to live despite wanting to hurt me?

I get what he's saying, but I still don't want any syrian refugees.

>>88883313
Children? Why, because they aren't left to their own devices in the middle of a civil war? Isnt that essentially what charity (the topic at hand) is, helping people out?

>>88883301
...yeah no shit, but I was saying there is something respectable about people who are honest about that when taking power. Most major conflicts in the last 500 years have had an ugly hypocritical morality injected in.

>These natives are savages and they need our authority for their own good!
VS
>These stupid brown-skinned cunts don't have guns or steel. Let's fuck their girls and make them farm shit for us because they're stupid nerds and we're stronger than them

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>>88883242
Actually I was thinking of the reformation period in the 16th century. The period was known for abusing the sale of indulgence.

Once Protestantism became a thing, many european ruling houses hunted them for a long time. Even in the 18th century, two hundred years later, people were still jailed/executed for it.

>>88883275
No, they are poison if they start killing you
which is what they do

>>88883313
Plenty of people see people as people. We're just dealing with a built in flaw of the modern world... that by refusing to put a price on human life in a capitalist society, we now see it as worthless rather than priceless.

Whether that was the intent is a matter of discussion, but I think we can all agree that we'd prefer a system where at least ourselves and the ones we hold dear were seen as the latter. And if that is so, it makes no sense not to apply it to all. It would change our priorities a bit...

>>88883313
Or maybe one side only sees the moral obligation, and the other side only sees the risk.

It's a tough weigh, how do you even call that? Like if a starving dying murderer is dying at your doorstep and you know the man is dangerous, do you have an ethical obligation to save him? Aren't you responsible for his death if you don't? At the same time aren't you selfishly just considering your own preservation by doing so, is there any greater meaning in preserving life and existence beyond your own?

And if there isn't.. why live at all?
Just freeze yourself to death right now and hope in the future they can put you in the matrix or some preservation pod to prolong your morally empty meaningless existence until the sun explodes, if existence is only for existences sake.

>>88883386
Also a lot of people in Syria were already refugees from the Iraq war. The US completely fucked up the middle east.

>>88883372
Whether you think it's good or not, it's hard to argue it's charitable.

>>88883372
Why not? People call themselves Christians and can still turn away the poor and desperate? Why not give those people the chance to be half as bad Muslims as everyone else is a bad Christian?

>>88882241
>kids named hunter and gatherer

>>88883402
That's a really good way to get called a tyrant and deposed. With an axe most likely.

The church provided a lot of stability and charity for its time. And the thirty years' war did end all religious conflict in Europe until the Islamic invasion of today. That's a lot more than most regions of the world can say.

>>88883457
*isn't
damnit

>>88883411
Sure, but that's not a "war." I thought you were talking about conquest.

>>88883386
Because rather than be able to deal with their country they've fled and filled up another. They don't expect the refugees to change or assimilate nor see that their human beings who are both capable of harm and expected to shoulder the responsibility of what they're putting onto them.
> Isnt that essentially what charity (the topic at hand) is, helping people out?
This gets into the whole "If you give a man a fish" spiel.
The actual real charitable thing to do would take up arms and help fix their country, or atleast absolutely demand their own countries intervene and do so- but the people offering to help would never do something that bold or drastic.

>>88882335
>Maybe civilization was a mistake

I feel like that could be the tagline of the series.

>>88882371
>dat apple logo with a trilobite

>>88883457
I don't think it's charitable. The people that are allowing and begging for it aren't giving up anything.

How is it charitable if I go to town hall and beg the mayor to put up homes and shelters for the homeless? It's not like I have any intention of fixing poverty or working at the soup kitchen. I'm just asking a nice thing to be done on someones behalf because it feels good.

Charity (atleast in the Catholic view, which I am not but) is an act of sacrifice.

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>>88882439
>sin-industrial complex

>>88883386
No, because they're being used as a means of reaffirming their host's belief in society. It's not altruism. It's other side of the coin of self-interest.
>>88883434
Agreed, though mainly because I haven't chewed on your argument enough to note any flaws. Fred was right about the crux of civilization being the ability of its citizens to care about people who mean nothing to us.
>>88883437
This is precisely why alcohol was invented.

>>88883464
I'm not a Christian.
>Why not give those people the chance to be half as bad Muslims as everyone else is a bad Christian?
It's pretty much an all or none thing. Either you have to give everyone the benefit of the doubt or no one gets the benefit. I mean I guess it's probably better for the refugees to stay. It may be better or worse for the countries they over-crowd. I don't have any stake in it. I'd probably just let them because it's an economy of needs and mine are met. But these kinds of questions are hardly left to subjective moral issues anymore, it's always a utilitarian thing.

But whether or not you believe in that kind of acceptance is purely based on how magnanimous one assumes the Human race to be.

>>88883437
>And if there isn't.. why live at all?

Because it's fucking awesome

>>88883464
Plenty of self-described Muslims (often with a Muslim education) live like Westerners, but you can't expect more radical Muslims to accept them as proper.
Which wasn't really a problem before the salafisation of the Muslim world.

>>88883635
No it's not? It's painful and terrible and cruel and if you're just living at the expense of everyone else's suffering and can still be happy you're probably some kind of narcissistic sociopath if not a hedonist.

You know how in the 1st Matrix that one traitor asshat wanted to be put back in the Matrix indefinitely and live rich and enjoy his false little comfort forever, even if he had to kill everyone onboard? That's what comes to mind.

>>88883513
>Because rather than be able to deal with their country they've fled and filled up another

What exactly do you expect a poor merchant from a city literally bombed to the ground to do? You have to live somewhere, and their country is on fire.

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>Ideological discussion in a Flintstones comics thread
What a time to be alive lads

>>88883697
The pain only makes it more exciting. You got a misfire in your brain, lad.

>>88883513
But that's wrong. Plenty of people who are for taking refugees expect them to integrate (so change) and are aware that there are criminal elements among them. They just value things differently.
>fix their country
I feel like you're totally clueless about what's currently going on in Syria.

>>88883699
They need to take up arms and save their country, this has happened throughout history, they don't have an excuse.

>>88883569
Yeah because nobody pays taxes, right?

>>88883372
>Like why would I invite some stranger into my home who hates me and my family and just wants somewhere to live despite wanting to hurt me?

Lots of assumptions there m8

>>88882241
As Sigmund Freud once said, "By God there's gold in them thar ills."

>>88883751
And while they're doing that, who is going to feed their families? It's well and good to enlist to fight when there's a functioning government willing to give you wages for doing so, but when you have 3 kids and a wife at home on the brink of starvation, you don't always have that luxury.

>>88883588
Pretty much any charity can be accused of being somewhat self-serving, by that reasoning.

>>88883791
Syria isn't poor. There are way more poor people in Russia and we sanction those to death under the guise of justice.

>>88883751
What the fuck do you think the Syrian rebels are?

>>88883699
Don't drag yourself to another country and lay down there saying "Okay. I risked my life to come here. This is okay. My country is on fire. This is life now." That's sounds like a waste of a drag out.

Either take up arms yourself, or drag yourself to another country, lay down in Brussels and say "Okay you fuckface capitalist oil-guzzling Drone-humping expansionist European maggots, you fucked up my country and the dozen surrounding it. You fucking assholes took a huge steaming shit back where I live and the shit piled up into a proxy-war that set my goddamn country on fire. Now fix this goddamn shit right now or so allah help me 8 million of my friend, friends and neighbors are going to take a shit in your yard and piss endlessly if you don't come with hoses and put the fire out."

But in all capslock.

I mean, they're not children. They have iphones and books n' stuff. Go write an angry letter atleast. I don't know? I mean even when the Holocaust, yes fucking that was happening Jews turned themselves into secret agents and tried to sabotage hitler. Some even went to the pope. Most of them died but- if all of them just fled statistics would show a lot more deaths.

The point is running away isn't enough.
What are you actually going to do about it?

>>88883839
I'm talking specifically about the people who come from areas that have literally nothing now thanks to the war.

>>88883852
Terrorists armed by the CIA and Sunni gulf states.

>>88883921
>lay down in Brussels and say "Okay you fuckface capitalist oil-guzzling Drone-humping expansionist European maggots, you fucked up my country and the dozen surrounding it. You fucking assholes took a huge steaming shit back where I live and the shit piled up into a proxy-war that set my goddamn country on fire. Now fix this goddamn shit right now or so allah help me 8 million of my friend, friends and neighbors are going to take a shit in your yard and piss endlessly if you don't come with hoses and put the fire out."

I don't know if you're intentionally or accidentally supporting terrorism, but that's exactly what you're doing.

>>88883923
That's a very small population to be concerned about, millions have abandoned Syria and the rest are on their way.

So as you can see, poverty isn't the issue. If they discovered a trillion dollars tomorrow nothing would change, there would still be a civil war and people would still GTFO

>>88882545
Good stuff

>>88883260
KEK/10

>>88883936
Terrorist is such a misguided buzzword. You do know Egypt is run by "terrorists" right? Fucking "terrorists" founded the USA.

>>88883772
It's a bad comparison but okay replace the stranger with someone you heard a few bad stories about and might just stone your kids. He could seem nice at the dinner table but you're not really sure if he'll pass the salad bowl or take a knife and gut you up for the glory of allah.

>>88883765
The people who are moving in are in theory going to be paying taxes too, so it balances out.

>>88883736
> Plenty of people who are for taking refugees expect them to integrate
There's a rather extreme fraction that doesn't think that way. To the point of covering up murders of little girls and trans individuals by Holy Killings via refugees because "If news get out our new guests are capable of this it'd be Islamopppphic! Cannot let the public know."

Also I'm not phoning in the blame on said guests- Those types of crimes are expected in any population. It's just the covering up which seems patronizing. Let's treat them like grown people, not children.

>>88883727
Yeah I'm sure plenty of people like you would be happy to give me a lobotomy for it.

>>88882275
I wil now say "Pterodactyl outta here" whenever I need to make a hasty exit.

>>88882503
But predators eat like crazy too. Ask my cat. He didn't get fat from dieting.

>>88884050
No, the muslim brotherhood is out. Sisi is a member of the military.

>>88883992
Good.
Americlap's founding fathers used to just call terrorists "Patriots."
If it takes just a few fireworks to wake someone up and get a real call for attention, so be it. I think the world has developed a bad enmity for violence personally.

Assuming trying anything civil doesn't work.
(It rarely does.)

>>88882545
okay, I took me time to get it, I thought it was a glimpse at future earth (we had a glimpse at Present earth in an earlier comic), but it's just Gazoo's planet.

Having a "Las Vegas" written in plain english really threw me off.

>>88884122
Americans fought for independence against invaders on their own soil. Terrorists grab a truck in Haag to run over some kids.

>>88884010
Another issue is who do you fight for?

Assad? For many Syrians, he has spent the past 15 years oppressing them, and even if they wanted to, would probably not give them the equipment needed to fight.

The Rebels? This "faction" is so ridiculously fractured it's hard to even label it. Not to mention that, once again, you have many groups inside that are just as bad as ISIS and wanted the same thing but for different people.

You seem to have this romanticized notion of picking up a gun and charging at the enemy, but that's not how warfare works. It's not an option for many in the warzone.

>>88883699

But the whole reason why people move is so that they can leave their problems where they are and forge a new life.

Most of these people whoa re moving to other countries these days are simply bring over their infection. Not saying that all of them do, but the good-bad ratio is in the bad's favor. It'd be fine if they were moving to get away from all that, but most of them are moving because they ran out of innocents to kill and corrupt in their hoem country.

>>88882275

Fucking cheap foreign dactyls.

>>88884122
There's a huge difference bewteen fighting people in your home and telling them to go away, and going to their country and killing civilians because you don't like what their government is doing.

Washington didn't fight the British by bombing London Bridge

>>88884201
> independence against invaders on their own soil.

That's just a spin description put on from the perspective of someone who won. From a completely different side of history it becomes "Terrorists tried to completely overthrow our government from overseas to claim our territories just so they wouldn't have to pay taxes."

>>88884236
They're full of gremlins.
Literally, it says in the manual that is their diet.

>>88884286
You're correct about the goals, but you ignore the methods to reach the goals.

>>88884218
>It'd be fine if they were moving to get away from all that, but most of them are moving because they ran out of innocents to kill and corrupt in their hoem country.

to suggest that most of the refugees are terrorists is absurd and you need to stop listening to talk radio. There are almost 6 million Syrian Refugees world wide. By your logic there are 3 million terrorists. Do you realize how devastating that would be? Yes the recent terror attacks are awful, but you can point to maybe a dozen or so instigators at most.

>>88884203
Hey dumb-dumb, who said anything about fighting being the solution? If anything outside "assistance" is only going to make it worse for everyone involved by escalating the conflict.

If Russia and Saudi Arabia had just left Syria alone, this civil war would have been over now. This is something they have to settle on their own but nooo, people are suffering so we all have to get involved, put an evil tyrant in charge who currently hates us slightly less than the opposition.

>>88882503

Only because they're energy efficient. Continuous hunting results in way more effort than needed.

If food is just handed to them, they'll stuff themselves.

>>88884122
Except Islamic terrorism isn't a cry for attention/help at all.
The guy who shot that Russian ambassador in Turkey? Sure, but not the faggots who are driving through crowds in a semi yelling "Allah ackbar".

>>88884218
>It'd be fine if they were moving to get away from all that, but most of them are moving because they ran out of innocents to kill and corrupt in their hoem country.

Eeeuh, it's not that bad.
They're just, too different. Most don't even understand the bizarre and frightening concept that Woman are people. How can you really try to so willingly not wince an eye at a whole group of people who want to keep 50% of the population as slave-wives and breeding cattle?

>>88884258
>Washington didn't fight the British by bombing London Bridge
Yeah and Jefferson Davis kickstarted the Civil War by bombing a fort in South Carolina for Southern independence.
What's your point?

>>88884342
>who said anything about fighting being the solution?

It was literally earlier in this thread and was originally who I was responding to >>88883751
>>88883513
Try and read the thread

>f Russia and Saudi Arabia had just left Syria alone, this civil war would have been over now. This is something they have to settle on their own but nooo, people are suffering so we all have to get involved, put an evil tyrant in charge who currently hates us slightly less than the opposition.

I agree that regional powers have just made things worse, as is often the case with proxy wars, but they didn't and now we have to figure out how to deal with it.

>>88884418
>What's your point?

Not that guy, but I believe he's saying that striving for government change by oppressing and harming civilians invalidates your movement.

>>88884316
>but you ignore the methods to reach the goals.
America was able to ignore attacking Britain because they were overseas. If the landmasses were connected that really wouldn't be an option not to attack the other side (See the Civil war).

And as far as "Methods" go, the american patriots by and then were definitely terrorists, they openly disregarded the rules of established warfare for guerilla tactics still being used by Islamic/every rebelling country in a civil war since today.

>>88881930
GRAND DAD

>>88882558

We're naturally altruistic. If we weren't, we never could have left the tribal stage.

The problem is that we're also heavily fear-driven animals, and people can manipulate those fears to their advantage.

>>88884388
Different terrorists have different goals. Like the guys that hit France did so because France has been airbombing them every day for the past decade. And said they'd stop if France stopped bombing them.

Thankfully the brave French government stood up for themselves and said THE LIVES OF OUR CITIZEN MEAN NOTHING TO US AS LONG AS WE CAN KEEP BOMBING YOU. Never compromise with terrorists!

>>88884447
What a dumbass that guy was.

>>88884418
>Yeah and Jefferson Davis kickstarted the Civil War by bombing a fort in South Carolina for Southern independence.

1) I don't think I ever argued that the Confederacy were the good guys
2) If you don't realize the difference between military targets and civilian targets, you're just retarded and I can't help you.

>>88884170
It's Las Vega, not Las Vegas.

>>88884342
To be fair the civil war was always full of foreign interests by the way of both ISIS and rebels having lots of non-syrian combatants from the get go in the wake of the Arab spring.
Russia and Saudi Arabia are trying to tip the scales in their favor, but the scale was never in balance.

/co/ drooling over a comic with a cis white alpha male protagonist who participated in a genocide. Color me surprised.

>>88884539
Yet see how many nations left the Arab Spring unscathed. Yemen, Oman, Iran, I'm all for self-loathing but clearly Egypt and Syria made their bed on their own and should've worked on a more stable government strong against foreign influence a long time ago.

>>88884342
>If anything outside "assistance" is only going to make it worse for everyone involved

This sort of maxim is pure ignorance. It's a fable. Let's get one truth straight, if the first world countries wanted to truly align their goals and unite, with Russia, the States and EU wanting to put a modern military force to use and pacify Syria, or any Islamic state, they could. It wouldn't be a struggle, it'd be overkill. Absolutely no 3rd world power could really resist for long or put up any real fight against an anonymous global decision.

Iraq for instance was felled within days. The difference in power between Iraq isn't even comparable to the desert marauders and various fractions. Even Isis could be dealt with easily.

But such a decision would never be reached because it's 'inconvenient' and offers no benefit to said countries, despite any moral ethical obligation. And as for ethics, hey thank postmodernism and a man by the name of Friedrich Nietzsche for killing any sign off on that warrant.

>Except Islamic terrorism isn't a cry for attention/help at all.
Oh, it isn't?
I guess they're just sorta blowing themselves up because it sounded cool like playing Call of Duty or something. Not any particular principle or reason.

This is the way it is now.
The 1st world has all the power but none of the will. It will sacrifice nothing because it wouldn't gain anything.
The 3rd world has none of the power but all of the will. They'll sacrifice anything to gain nothing.

Master-Slave dialect to a tee.

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Being Philip is suffering.

>>88884592
Yemen wasn't left unscathed.
If it wasn't for foreign influence the civil war wouldn't have lasted this long.
Nothing to do with self-loathing, Westerners are far from the only influence there.

>>88884488
The difference is not in attacking Britain, it's in attacking non-military targets.

For example, if the revolutionary army had targeted the people of New York City to punish them for hosting the British.

>>88884478
Ah.
Again that'd be easy for the US, they never had to step onto british soil.
>>88884527
I forget, which british civilian targets stepped foot on American soil around then? It's not like they hijacked british civilian ships or anything and ruined shit in a petty fit.

And the Union weren't good guys either. Ever heard of "Scorch Earth?" Yeah they invented that. Not so easy to look nice when your enemy soldiers are supplied by civilians you can reach.

>>88884651
Genocide would be worse for everyone involved, yes. Don't cut yourself too hard on that edge, stupid.

>>88884694
The solution isn't that everyone stops influencing Syria because that's not going to happen. The solution is to build a nation that can withstand it.

>>88884592
>more stable government
>strong against foreign influence

These goals are not always in line. The Russian government has strengthened the state with its military and economic ties.

>>88884651
The reason it's not going better is because Russia and the rest of the west have conflicting interests, not because they don't have any.
If the west went in full Iraq mode Russia would get pissed off and could threaten a much worse war.

Also I guess it's either a cry for help or trying to be cool like CoD, can't be any other reasons.

>>88884710
Well yeah, I never really said that terrorists were the sharpest tools in the shed. I think obviously they're still bad guys and killing innocent people is bad. 9/11 was bad mmkay.

But just on a purely symbolic level, the bombing of the world Trade Centers sends a pretty clear message. I'm not saying they HAVE to go ape-shit bananas and 9/11 Brussels.. but there should be a way to send such a similar message across. Unfortunately I doubt anyone is that coordinated or anything to do that.

>>88882055
kek

>>88884720
>It's not like they hijacked british civilian ships or anything and ruined shit in a petty fit.
You REALLY don't see a difference between bombing a crowded market and shit like the Boston Tea Party?

>Ever heard of "Scorch Earth?" Yeah they invented that.

Sherman's March was essentially a war crime and is considered one of the worst acts of the US military pre-Vietnam, and Sherman's name is still despised around Georgia. However the fact that you think that scorched Earth tactics were invented in 1864 convinces me you're a child who has little to no understanding of history or any real education.

>>88884780
Isn't what's happening now genocide? I'm not advocating that. What I'm speaking about would more likely be fascism.
Would fascism ever be ethical to save lives and cut this shit out? Probably not. But with the way this world is heading to hell who knows.

>>88882241
Indulgences discovered only a few weeks after religion. Fast-paced.

>>88884651
>Iraq for instance was felled within days.
Only killing Saddam took days.
The actual timetable for pacifying Iraq took more like a few weeks. Stopping insurgency forces after they'd already won took Months.

Here's the big problem with your grand idea.
Rebuilding took years.
Not so simple is it?

>>88882465
I love the "Fred gets real" moment in each issue.

>>88884795
Good catch, but you know what I'm trying to say. A resilient, legitimized government?

>>88884859
No, never. Because the war will end eventually, except then you also have fascism.

>>88883510
>Sure, but that's not a "war." I thought you were talking about conquest.

No, but it caused several.

>>88884920
Not to mention shit is still very much going down in Iraq right now, it's the country with the most terrorist attacks by far and Mosul was only recently taken back from ISIS.

>>88882545
That is a superb page. Even just the betting odds thing shows Gazoo is no better, and then you have the fulfillment of hope beneath.

>>88882757
>>88882820
>>88882904
<I have seen that it is not man who is impotent in the struggle against evil, but the power of evil that is impotent in the struggle against man. The powerlessness of kindness, of senseless kindness, is the secret of its immortality. It can never by conquered. The more stupid, the more senseless, the more helpless it may seem, the vaster it is. Evil is impotent before it. The prophets, religious teachers, reformers, social and political leaders are impotent before it. This dumb, blind love is man’s meaning. Human history is not the battle of good struggling to overcome evil. It is a battle fought by a great evil, struggling to crush a small kernel of human kindness. But if what is human in human beings has not been destroyed even now, then evil will never conquer.

>>88884969
Did you hear about that house with hundreds of decapitated bodies they found? I wonder if they had time to enjoy America's freedom.

>>88884839
They're not the same obviously. But it's still terrorism even if lives aren't lost. Technically any illegitimate act done in any way for political causes, even a passive aggressive way could be considered a form of terrorism.

Even just like a refugee spray painting a US tanker. But I get what you're saying. I'm just saying, things happen. There are no good guys or bad guys just the sorta circumstances allowed for them. The circumstances didn't allow for British non-military targets, so there were none. That's it. It didn't come down to any real principle or anything. Would US really attack britain if they had a choice? They bombed german factories and cities but those were usually war times and related attacks, not really 'ma and pa' old family kind of civilians. Is there a line drawn? I'm not the one to pinpoint it.

>the fact that you think that scorched Earth tactics were invented in 1864
Just the term.
The actual application is as old as roman invictus.

This was pretty good.
I thought this Flinstones comic would be stupid or edgy but its actually quite alright.

I just realized I'm to blame for the thread going full global politics. I should have found another example of charity than refugees.

>>88884940
>No, never. Because the war will end eventually, except then you also have fascism.
The idea is that you 'rebuild' after and slowly release control as the victim country gets better.

You know.
Like old fashioned Imperialism.
If humanity weren't so blighted that we'd never see any of our own flags overhead it'd be something to try in theory.
Would just end up a dystopia probably in practice, but the sad thing is it's less a less a theory and we're getting closer to actually realizing that sort of terrifying idea everyday now. Have you been following American politics lately? Democracy is having a little case of the runs right now.

>>88884513
>Like the guys that hit France did so because France has been airbombing them every day for the past decade.

No, he did it because rebel leader Abdul told him that France is the one airbombing them, and that France will stop airbombing them if he goes and blows up civilians.

Now Abdul may have been right, but also he may have just lied to him so he can hit France, and then France would send in more troops, and then Abdul would have more reasons to continue fighting the honorable holy fight against the western Satan *.

* Ie.: continue living as a local warlord and have an excuse for raping anyone and their family for any reason he comes up with, and also airbombing their homes (sometimes with stolen french planes).

>>88885133
It's fine, it's as much illustration as it is debate.

>>88885133
Yeah, you're pretty stupid. I thought you were intentionally stirring the pot by bringing up that hated issue.

>>88881990
Bergs! Nice reference skill right there.

>>88885133
>Thanks to you a Flintstones thread is now discussing geopolitics
I don't know whether to slap or hug you.

>>88885133
You're gonna have to pay big for this sin, anon.

Check the sin cost chart from earlier in the comic to see how big.

>>88885169
Let's not bring that up, I will not humor the notion of America having democracy more than I would Estonia having an army.

>>88885189
Clearly we have to rely on ISIS breaking this vicious cycle because the French won't hear of it. What the hell are they even doing in the middle east?

>>88885133
Don't worry, it's the big event of our times. It's like if 4chan existed during WW2 and people tried their best not to bring up WW2.

>>88882729
>I do have to say that I miss the original artist, though.
I'm alright with what we have. Wilma and Betty are cuter IMO.

>>88885209
I was trying to find something else but the only large things that came to mind were NGOs or the UN and those always stirr up shit too.

>>88885301
I got some pebbles saved up for just such an occasion.

>>88881930
Thank you OP, never realized Hanna-Barbera comics had gotten this good!

>>88885329
>France in the middle East
Part of the larger US/EU/NATO plan to have "peace" (relative control) over the middle East to allow safe oil and gas pipelines towards Europe without relying on Russia.
This doesn't please Russia.

>>88882484
>Do you know what you're doing?
>If I did, I probably wouldn't be doing it
Does he mean that if he knew it was safe, he would let anyone do it, but because he doesn't, he'll do it? If so BASED/10

>>88885745
I think that the idea is that if he knew exactly how dangerous it is, he would be too affraid/reasonable to do it.
Temerity and all that.

>>88882031
>Bam-Bam just watches
Dude, come on, you could have pulled their fucking spines out with your dick.

>>88885745
I think he's saying that if he really thought about how dangerous it was, he'd be too scared to go.

Do you think you're a good person, /co/?

>>88882241
I actually like that this wasn't the EEEEEEVIL RELIGIOUS AUTHORITY FIGURE (TM) coming up with a scam on people out of nowhere. He actually tried to suggest a good deed.

>>88881990
It's a Berg from Moebius and Jodorowsky's Incal!

>>88886320
No Bojack, I can honestly say I'm not.

>>88886320
I'm trying to be. God knows I'm trying.

>>88883102
I care more for people that I don't know than the ones I do know.

Am I broken?

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>>88886320
I know I'm not, but I also know I'm not a bad person. I'm just a regular person trying to navigate this minefield of life with temptation and moral strong arming

I'm happy enough with myself though, so I don't care for being too good or too bad

>>88883115
Waid must be furious about his idea being "stolen"

>>88885329
>What the hell are they even doing in the middle east?

NATO shenanigans

Where can i download the rest? I only read the one about marriage with /co/ months ago.

>>88883411
The actual wars came because Luther split completely from the Church with German princes rather than reform it from within.

And dont act like Protestantism was this pure ideal Christianity either. Most rulers who converted did so to have a monopoly on religion and to sack Catholic monestaries of their lucrative lands and wealth.

>>88886320
I could be better, and sometimes settle for not being worse.

>>88886320
No, but I don't consider myself a bad person either.

>>88883046
>just trying to do his best everyday
But that's Superman

>>88886320
Not really, more like "decent". I don't really do good, but I'm respectful towards others and try to not impact their lives negatively.

>>88886374
Note that she puts the pile of money on a stack of due bills. The rev made a very human mistake in desperation.

What is this. A good thread on /co/. Discussion of the comic at hand along with, god forbid, INTELLIGENT discussion of politics.

On a fucking Flintstones thread. just when I was wondering why I still came to this place, goddammit. i love all you fucks

>>88882546
He's probably more like Pa kent.

>>88882612
It's still better than anything else I've seen this month.

>>88883046
If he's so legendary how come the art is shit compared to the Pugh?

I just realized Fred named his daughter the equivalent of money/coins/currency.
What is he a gangsta rapper ?

>>88889236
He's the O.G. Original Gravel.