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Why is there so much CRYING in this show?
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>>88858434
Because feel.
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>>88858434
Because they need the target audience to relate. In this case, the target audience cries a lot, because they are babies.
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>>88858434
BECAUSE HER LOVER DIED AND THE ZOO HUMANS GOT REJECTED HOLY FUCK
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>>88858434
What, are you going to cry about it?
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I didn't mind BD or Zoo Human crying but by God when Steven was crying it seriously pissed me off and unironically made me mad.

Like you little pussy, you got everyone into that situation, you're the only one that can get them out and you're crying and asking for your dad? I know he's a child but he should have just gotten through it.

Also these episodes have made me realise that Rebecca or whoever is writing the dialogue has just an awful habit of telling instead of showing.
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>>88858641
>Like you little pussy, you got everyone into that situation, you're the only one that can get them out and you're crying and asking for your dad? I know he's a child but he should have just gotten through it.
That was kinda the point. he realized he had put everyone in this mess because of himself.
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>>88858434
The writing and pacing of this show are pure garbage. The lore is slightly interesting, though.
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>>88858434
It's made by a woman.
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>>88858489
>LOVER
No god damn it, the Diamonds are sisters, don't be a fucking weirdo.
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>>88860345
>Not loving your sister romantically
It's like you've never seen Frozen.
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>Characters expressing their emotions through visuals ina visual art

I mean I guess you would rather have them just say they are sad that is okay I guess.
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waitm the entire bomb leaked? been away for the holydays
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>>88860394
I haven't and I don't plan to.
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>>88860345
>Your headcanon is wrong, MY headcanon however...
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>>88858434
Steven crying BD tears felt almost parodic.
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>>88860486
It was in a way I think.
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Easy to cry than to write well.

I tried giving this show another chance when my buddy said that there was an episode with Karl from ATHF's VA about the impacts of the war from the average joe's perspective.

Instead I got a dumb gag episode with Karl's VA.

This show has realized it doesn't need to try, that simply by existing and saying "Uh yeah the gems are gay" the show will be validated and praised.

Fair enough, but I'm not wasting my time on it.
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>>88858434
I would usually agree but it wasn't out of place here. Also, holy shit that scene in thr Ruby Ship was just...way better than the show usually is at conveying tension or severity. The last time it did it this well was Keeping it Together.
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>>88858434
>Greg please be our husbando!
>Nah, dude.
>MUH FEELINGS
>Amethyst group storms in and all they do is try to console them
That was the only funny thing in the whole bomb.
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>>88860439
yes all five episodes are floating around now to be watched
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>>88858434
>/co/ still complaining about the crying
How about stop being a little bitch
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Because crying is a form of healthy emotional expression?

Oh right, I'm talking to people with fragile masculinity. You can't even enjoy ice cream since you consider it "gay", lol
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>>88860521
>Goofy sequence about light bodies.
>Suddenly all the CGs are gone, the ship his hurtling faster than light and out of control, on course for a collision, Steven can't do a thing, and it's played 100% straight.
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>>88858434
Stop crying about it.
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>>88860567
this
"i can't enjoy a chaarcter cause they're not punching shit and prefer to talk through situations that beat everybody up"
that's how most people on /co/ feel about steven, bet money
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>>88858434
Sucrose knows how autistic her fanbase is, she makes the characters cry so the viewers understand that they're sad.
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>>88860602
Eh, except the problem with Steven is that he wins all fights in the end anyways. Try as you might to make a nuanced lesson about strength not mattering, the most popular moment in this show is Garnet rapping while kicking the crap out of Hulk Hogan
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>>88860478
It has organizational precedent- three ruling matriarchs- usually that's going to be a coalition of sisters.
They're the same kind of gem- we've seen Amy refer to fellow amethysts as family or sisters.
None of these gems are supposed to love, that's what the whole cross fusion outrage was about.
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>>88860567
What is that snout trout?
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>>88859675
This. Women only have three ways of expressing emotions:

1.) crying
2.) eating
3.) crying while eating
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>>88860669
>implying women have fewer ways of expressing themselves than men
Are you new to the whole being human thing?
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>>88860651
I actually agree, but both views are still headcanon at the moment. Wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that way though.
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>>88860567
The characters cry more than a 3 month old burn victim.
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>>88860567
>Crying is a form of healthy emotional expression
>Not 'Crying like a little bitch every time because muh feelings are sensitive'
>Also steven not being emotionally mature for his age
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>>88860567
The problem is they cry all the damn time
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>>88860547
The guys on /co/ are trying to project themselves as being "manly men" when I am 100% sure that it couldn't be further from the truth in real life.
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>>88860547
>>88860848
my problem with the crying is not the act itself but pic related.
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>>88860848
>anything more than constantly blubbering crybaby is being machismo wife beating alpha male
Ridiculous. The issue isn't that they cry, but that they cry on every possible problem they face.
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>>88860602
Pacifist characters are fine if handled properly. I don't think you'd find many people complaining about Aang, for example (Spiritbending notwithstanding).

The issue with Steven is he's 100% pacifist. He's boring. You know that going into any conflict, his reaction will be some combination of
>Try to talk the other party down
>Shove the other party in a bubble
>Hide behind a shield/bubble
>Cry
Then if none of those things work, a character with nuance steps in and then the show actually gets interesting.

He's bad for the same reasons that a character that solves all their problems with violence is bad.
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fucking /co/mblr, just go away...
Stop spamming the board with your shitty show.
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>>88858434

> download the episodes last night, plan to watch them in the morning
> they have no sound

Did you fall for it too, /co/?
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>>88860669
As opposed to men whose emotional response are little more then whining or being quiet?
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>>88861084
It's a shame Steven is a pansy, he's got that retard strength going on. He fucking punched his dad several yards into a tree while holding back.
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>>88861168
Ah yes Anon let us talk about all the other exciting shows airing- oh, wait.
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>>88861196
>tfw fag doesn't VLC Media Player
I heard every audio just fine. maybe stop being a newfag to the internet?
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>>88858434
Isn't that the joke now? The show even pokes fun at it.

But to be fair, I don't really mind Steven crying at certain times, especially in that scene. Knowing you caused the abduction of your dad and you'll probably never see him again will probably make most people cry.
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>>88861233
Crying implies inability to control emotions whereas quiet implies control said emotions.
Check mate, vaginists.
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>>88860577
Not gonna lie, I was kind of weirded out with the goofy sequence, and then it just went straight serious. I liked it. The gems rattling at the back in their gem form was great.
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>>88860567
Crying at every inkling of adversity or discomfort is not a form of health emotional expression.
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>>88860567
There are different ways to express complex emotions than crying. Over use of crying makes each subsequent use of it less impactful.

Depression and sorrow have more outlets than just tears
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>>88861084
>The issue with Steven is he's 100% pacifist.
I have a feeling they are setting it up. It was just revealed to him that his mom had to shatter someone, and he is still having a hard time warping his mind over that action, but at least he knows now that someday he has to face that decision of actually hurting someone for the sake of the rest of the people.
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>>88860669
You forgot screaming, although men enjoy that one as well.
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>>88858434
PROGRESSIVE!!!! PROGRESSIVE!!!
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>>88861012
I don't get it.
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>>88861704
>>88861692
>>88860798
>>88860768
>>88860698
t.fragile males.
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>>88861084
>The issue with Steven is he's 100% pacifist
Source, your ass. he has never stated that. Stven will always try to find out a non-violent solution if he can, but he has been shown he does not shy away from fighting if necessary.
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>>88861795
Then you've never seen a bee drowned in honey.
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>>88861800
t. Tumblr whale
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>>88861649
Not that guy, but I'm married and that being quiet shit gets you nowhere. Of you ever plan on marrying, you need to level up your interpersonal communication skills. Either that or stay single. Or get married and be miserable in a cliche, sitcom manner.
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>>88858434
Because Sugar is a woman and she is every character and that's how she deals with everything herself. Crying and letting the yesmen do the job
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>>88861867
aaawh, hurt your fragile masculinity?
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>>88862351
We men have an instinctive disgust in overly sentimental things sweetcheeks. Thats why alot of dudes hate moe anime because its so cutesy its makes me feel sick to my stomach.
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>>88858434
Becky has a crying fetish. She's like Bruce Timm, except with crying.
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>>88862351
>>88861867
You're supposed to be at least 18 to post here.
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>>88861800
>tfw Spongebob is manlier than Steven
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>>88858434
>hurt feelings
>stress
>grief
Realy, most of the crying we saw was just Steven's empathic link to BD.
He did not actually feel a thing, he just had a feedback response to someone else's crying. That's why he doesn't look like he's crying even though it's streaking down his face.
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>>88858641
That was an extremely stressful situation for him. He had to use his weight shift powers which are tied to his emotions while feeling guilty which hampers his ability to become lighter and being flung around at warp speed in their little gravitatuonal well.
I would cry like that just from riding a bike in cold wind.
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>>88860534
>running over the Ruby squad and dismissing their plight wasn't funny
>them running through their own anination studio wasn't funny
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>>88861800
If you honestly think crying that frequently is normal, you're fucking delusional.
Watching an all-powerful giant space empress reduced to such a vulnerable state and shedding tears over her fallen friend could have been really powerful if the characters didn't cry at the drop of a hat.
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>>88861800
how much crying did you think it took to make the keyboard you're shitposting from?
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>>88858641
>I know he's a child but he should have just gotten through it.
And even then, it'd make more sense if it happened in the beginning of the series, but how much shit has this kid been through so far now?
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>>88862816
It wasn't.
>>88862825
I agree, I get why they're trying to do it, showing kids they don't have to be afraid of their feelings and crap like that but there's trying to include some values in a show and then there's shoving them into viewers face. You'd think that 10 minutes isn't enough for so much filler and unnecessary messages.
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>>88861012
That's a wasp.
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Is this the su-hate thread?
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>>88862974
I wish.
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>>88862974
Isn't that every thread?
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>>88861084
He isn't a pacifist, though.
He fought all kinds of battles, stood up to Jasper and Peridot's ship artillery.
He fused to defeat Jasper twice.
He punched his dad in the gut that it rattled his bones and stabbed Bismuth.
Sure, he tries to be nice and diplomatic.
But he does not hesitate long to fight when it becomes necessary.
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>>88858434
Crying is a cheap way to convey sadness. There's no art in subtleness when it comes to the amateurs running this show, they just don't understand suffering silently can make a scene so much more powerful.
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>>88858434
Bean eyebrows.
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>>88863086
More like it's a show for kids so they're being unnecessarily blunt. Most kids shows do that.
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>>88862482
I've reached a point where I can't tell if this is serious or not
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>>88863158
It's a shitpost either way.
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>>88860486
Why the hell are huge sludge-tears so popular nowadays? It's really unappealing.
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>>88863125
The Last Airbender didn't need to do that and it was a hit with kids.
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>>88863125
Give me one show where people cry as much as SU unironically.
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>>88863273
>>88863299
I didn't say that it's a good thing, I said it's common.
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>>88861885
I'll take single, thanks.
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>>88863299
Crying Breakfast Friends.
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>>88863330
That's fine, but I don't know of any other show that uses this tactic to the same extent as SU. Is there one that even comes close?
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>>88863439
As far as I'm aware no. I think SU tries to be different which wouldn't be a bad thing but then takes it too far.
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>>88858641
>I know he's a child but
He isn't though, he's fourteen, if a 14 year old cried that often they would have their asses beaten by anyone.
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>>88863374
Fair enough anon. Still, getting better at communication will result in better friendships too. No man is an island.
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>>88860567
>Complains about other people being fragile
>Lionizes crying as being a healthy emotional response to ones problems.
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>no new episode for a long time
>very first episode since the high anus starts with Steven in tears
Bravo.
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I understand your complaints about the crying but there IS explanations to the crying in this bomb.

The Zoo humans aren't used to being rejected what they want so of course they were going to be sad.

Blue Diamond is mourning a death.

Steven almost lost one of his only family members and was all alone in that ship, thinking he might not have been able to fix what WAS HIS FAULT.
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>>88863778
Just because it has explanation doesn't mean it's not overused. Someone wrote all those situations right next to each other and made characters deal with them the same way every time. Maybe it's realistic but it's not interesting to watch.
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>>88863600
No man, but maybe a SUPER man! (cue heroic music)
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Because the most simplistic concept of being in touch with your emotions is being a snivelly bitch instead of actually channeling them into productive pursuits and it is written by simpletons.
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>>88863778
Having characters overuse crying makes these scenes less impactful. That's the fault of the author. Ever hear about the "boy who cried wolf"? It's the same thing.
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>>88863878
It's fine if you don't like the crying and think that it's overused, but we do need to acknowledge the reasons for it this time are valid to some extent.
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>>88862816
youre right, they werent funny
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>>88863107
Bean eyebrows
Bean faces
Bean smiles
Bean bodies

Everything's gotta be beans nowadays, it's disgusting.
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how would you rate the leak/bomb /co/
8/10
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>>88858434
That talll guy in the back looks like he's making the rage-crying IT'S NOT FAIR feelsguy face.
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>>88863600
Bleh. My mother uses that saying on me all the time.
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"I haven't broken this many hearts since I had all my hair!"
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>>88864004
>tfw no qt gar-egg to choosen with
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>>88863778
>Steven almost lost one of his only family members and was all alone in that ship, thinking he might not have been able to fix what WAS HIS FAULT.
Him crying is what almost got them killed.
It's a shame to because I thought he was maturing as a character but that breakdown of "I want my dad" was a huge step back.
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>>88864349

If I'm being honest with you, I'm surprised he was able to stop the ship in time.
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>>88861649
My mother is an unemotional drone but then again she was raised by a single father who raised her like a son and she tends to be the quiet one when my dad gets into one sided discussions with her.

That said men do have another default emotion that is equivalent to women crying and it's getting pissed off and threatening the source of their anger but that shit only works if they look imposing.
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>>88858434
It's quite obvious: Sugar's got a crying fetish and wants everyone to know about it. She simply uses the "feels" card to hide the awful truth.
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New General
>>88864761
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>>88858434
There is not enough people to have a diverse gene pool. These inbreds should not look that pretty.
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>>88858434
>Why is there so much CRYING in this show?

Because it's made by a woman? Duh.
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>Steven finally mans up and tells Garnet and Pearl to stop fucking lying and give him answers
FUCKING FINALLY
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>>88863600
Just so you know, the majority of human beings are able to engage conflict on a middle ground that's neither purely stoic nor by being an inconsolable mess
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>>88864513
The real question is why was he experiencing g forces in what was blatently a ship moving faster than light?
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Why is there so much CRYING in this show?
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>>88858434
It's okay to cry, Beavis. Crying takes the hurt out of you.
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>>88864958
I bet that was the best part for you lorefags.
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>>88864995
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Because the show is for tumblr dykes.
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>>88860486
It's been established that he's an empath multiple times over.
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>this entire fucking thread
Good job /co/, you proved once and for all that you're nothing more than a bunch of emotionally stunted misogynist manchildren who get confused and angry at the mere idea of male tears. But then again, I shouldn't be surprised considering the hateboner you all have for Steven Universe (because god forbid we ever have a show that explores mature emotional themes with well rounded characters, no, gotta make sure cartoons are all just fighting and tits), but this is a new low for you all.
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>>88864958
STOP IT! YOU'RE UPSETTING PEARL!
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>>88865078
ok
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>>88865078
>mature emotional themes
>well rounded characters
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>>88864997
>lorefag
I don't really care too much about that
I'm just glad Steven finally called them on their bullshit
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Does the show seem set to wrap up soon? Haven't seen the episodes because I couldn't find them but is it finally answering shit? Otherwise I'm not interested.
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>>88864986
Because its played as a joke most of the time instead of serious drama.
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>>88865157
It answers some things, but probably not the things you want answers to.
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>>88858641
>child
Isn't he just a emotionally stunted teenager?
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Crying is the only emotion leftist have besides being offended.
And the latter always leads to the former.
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>>88858641
I've been binging the older episodes during break. I really miss the old goofy Steven. It's okay to feel like shit, but for god's sakes I really truly feel like it could be expressed better in this show.

Doesn't help that Steven's VA is making this awful high-pitched voice. They stated he's fucking 14 in the show. Isn't that a good enough excuse to lower his voice just a bit?
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>>88865530
i thought he was 14. he acts like he's 6 though.
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>>88858434

Maybe Im just a jerk but the silly art style is really giving me difficulty in "FEELING" anything for these characters in general.

It's like that time I tried to watch One Piece. Yeah there's a lot of emotional stuff there but everyone just looks silly.
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>>88865612
You are one hollow shell of a human being, aren't you?
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>>88860567
You have ruined ice cream forever for me Anon with your Fudge Ripple attitude.
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>>88865612
One Piece always bothered me lol its too goofy looking to be emotional
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>>88865729
In fact I'm so mad, I'm going to call up the US President, the Pope and the United Nations to tel them that Ice Cream is officially ruined, forever.

You'll wake up tomorrow to headlines across the world reading.
"Local Anon ruins Ice Cream Forever."

I hope you're happy.
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>>88863217
blame Miyazaki
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>>88864996
The sad.
It takes THE SAD out of you. Not the hurt. If it took the hurt out, Beavis wouldn't care that he was touched.
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>>88866048
heheh, you said "touched".
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>>88859675
"Woman".
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>>88860534
its not like its a comedy.
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>>88865203
What's wrong with serious drama?

SU does it pretty good.
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>>88864986
In that moment it was a serious reconciliation between two friends who had a serious falling out and beat the shit out of each other. Tears shed in One Piece have always been done with consideration of what the characters have been through.
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>>88860652

Mystriosuchus
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>>88861649
Being quiet and bottling shit up usually leads to me being unable to control my emotions half the time. I'll be fine when shit is bad, but then the least little thing will cause me to get really upset.
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>>88861649
>>88861233
>>88860669


Is that why the rate of suicide is significantly higher among males than females?

By the way you forgot about "Vindictive rage" Most women I've met are extremely spiteful.
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Can someone be kind enough to post a new mega with the leak, for some reason none of the old links work.
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>Why is there so much CRYING in this show?
'cause they know they're cancelled
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>>88867018
>SU does it pretty good.
You're joking, right? When emotional breakdown happens every episode, it has zero impact.
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>>88861084
who would win in a non violent conflict resolution off between steven and wander?

and no bullshit 'they team up' shite.
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>>88867694
Not true.
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It's made by a woman and they always cry.
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>>88867722
The humor purposes of Ren's breakdowns aren't really the same, seeing as the goal is laughs, not bridging an emotional empathy with the audience.
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I liked all those Amethysts.

Hope them and the Zoomans make more appearances.

CG's bust them out eventually and we see the Zoomans living on Earth around Peridot and Lapis? Yes please. Peri would be trying to get them to work for her, Lapis would be annoyed and Tsundere as fuck.
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>>88861084

>>The issue with Steven is he's 100% pacifist.

>He poofed Bismuth.

>He sent a group of Ruby's to face a fate worse than death, even throwing one of them personally into the void of space.

>He fought against Jasper after he fused into SQ.

>He got into an actual fight with Amethyst.

>He has fought along side Connie against Pearl.

>He fearlessly jumped into a laser meant to destroy the Crystal Gems.

>He picked up a laser cannon and blew up a red eye.

>Has a personal vendetta against Kevin. A war so to speak.
>He's told Lars off and called him a faggot.

TRAPPIN IN HEAVEN2
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>>88867694

No at all. The pacing is quite exceptional and often catches me off guard not to mention what the subject of the drama is and the context it gets thrown into. If you has a consistent example for each episode though I'm willing to hear you out.
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>>88860486
>>88865043

He wasn't bawling. Steven even mentions himself that he wasn't sad.

CLEARLY this is some kind of foreshadowing that Steven has some kind of power or direct connect to the diamonds if he is tied to her emotional state.
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>>88868057
They can cry each other to death.
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>>88861168
>fuck SU posters actually posting about comics and cartoons
>don't they know this board is only for Loss edits and Baneposting?
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>>88867961
It's my opinion that the short-episode format doesn't allow for enough emotional buildup to be worth the payoff, but we're probably just going to have to disagree here.
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>>88861800
>>88861867
FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
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>>88862871
>Guy mocking shows of emotion posts a Roman reaction image
>not knowing the Romans were a very emotive people who cried openly without embarassment
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>>88863273
>implying people didn't often cry in TLA
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>>88862871
>>88868244
It's like people who cry about "degenerates" while idolizing the Romans, some of the most decadent fuckers in history.
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>>88868307
I remember reading about how if a citizen fucked a roman soldier in the ass the citizen would be castrated and the soldier killed for letting a lower class person shove his winkey in kitchen stinky.
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>>88868244
there is a difference between "shows of emotion" and "crying is my default answer to anyting"
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>>88868427
How is crying Steven's default? The theme of the show actually reflects more of a message about communication and talking your problems out.
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>>88868595
There are many ways to bring that message across that don't involve tearful breakdowns.
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>>88868888

I don't see how they've missed so with their presentations.
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>>88868595
Is every episode of a show supposed to have the same moral? That seems kind of narrow.
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>>88868057
I initially thought it was meant to be Rose crying through Steven, but the empath thing seems more likely.
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>>88860669
I can only cry when I'm happy or excited. It's always kinda weirded me out that I cry a lot but never when I'm sad. Does this actually happen to other people?
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>>88860506
You have no taste at all and don't understand how to appreciate something unless it is DEEP and DARK apparently, I'm sure whatever works you like are in fact garbage.
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>>88858434
One of the few things women can relate to
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http://boonsky.tumblr.com/post/155357940620/lotta-good-characters-came-out-of-this-leek-v
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>>88858434
WILL JASPER EVER CRY
HAS SHE EVER CRIED
CAN SHE CRY
WHY IS SHE THE ONLY ONE WHO HASN'T CRIED
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>>88858641
Wanting his dad back was a genuine thing to tear up about, but they specifically made the dialog obnoxiously baby sounding. I WANT MY DAD BACK!!!! come on.

That's just as bad as Benson yelling at Rigby in the new seasons of Regular Show calling him a "bad boy".
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>>88858434
Man, for a second I thought you were going to post something else, something surprising.
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>>88868965
Interpersonal communication is like 90% of what humans do, outside eating and shitting.
The field is quite expansive and lends itself to many different problems.
So, take a moment to think of just flexibility, love and trust.
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>>88869839
Lapis hasn't either.
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>>88869008
Crying is a way to release stress hormones, among other things.
So anything producing sufficient stress can make you cry, really.
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>>88865564
Good lord JESUS in heaven, this. And to think some people, when introducing people to the series, would say "Oh, Steven and his voice gets less annoying in the later episodes". I honestly would prefer the deeper voiced, awkward sounding Steven to this. It made all the emotional scenes feel way more real than that high-pitched voice. (i.e. Lars and the Cool Kids "What do you know about my mom?!")

Like, imagine Rose's Scabbard with the new Steven voice, when Steven tells Pearl to tell him what's wrong. It'd make Pearl's line about him sometimes sounding like Rose fucking nonsensical.
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>>88870035

To be fair steven is still way behind in terms of human age so a little immaturity in stressful situations seems alright.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7aRa2GpgO0
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>>88869008
I have the opposite problem, that I laugh when I should be crying, and people call me a terrible person, and it's really awkward, because I literally cannot help it

>inb42edgy
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>>88870286
Nah, that's not edgy at all man. Some people have different ways of coping with grief/shock/stress/etc. It's like when people laugh when they're nervous.
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>>88858434
Shouldn't these people be inbred?
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>>88861196
Use VLC, PotPlayer, or MPC. Whatever you're using just doesn't support OGG.
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>>88870356
Tell me about it!
I get the urge to make shitty puns spout sarcasm when I'm under emotional stress.
I have caught myself spouting obscure references in tense situations, which really never leads to less confusion.
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>>88860669
god damn, I did not need you to remind me of how much I miss scooby's and portillo's italian beef sandwiches

god dammmit so much why did I move back to little russia?
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Can you fucking fag idiots stop arguing about fucking crying and someone post a link to the leaks or download or some shit? Jesus christ your fan base is insufferable and I just wanna watch your stupid show
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>>88870153
>Interpersonal communication is like 90% of what humans do
And yet this show covers such a narrow aspect of it.
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>>88858434
Because "feels" are the renascence of 90's era Emo faggotry.
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>>88863299
The new Powerpuff girls started out incredibly often, like all the fucking time. It was unbelievable. I hate watched it with a few threads before I got bored.
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>>88870219
I feel like his voice got better for a while but it's gotten much higher pitched this season. I think like maybe end of s2 beginning of s3 was optimal.
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>>88863778
>I understand your complaints about the crying but there IS explanations to the crying in this bomb.
Oh yea, because he was crying OTHER people's tears! BIG CARTOONY ONES!!
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>>88864978
I can't stop getting pissed that by moving his hand to the screen that means he was effectively travelling fast than light with his arm. That's impossible and fuck them for not thinking it through.
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>>88859675
i like your post, good sir
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>>88870499
>Says the Loudfag
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>>88867699
Wander. He has accomplished helping people all over the galaxy for EONS, Steven's part human which means he has the human flaws of overreacting, not understanding all forms of sympathy, and being prone to misunderstanding far easier. Wander is a space entity that thrives on helping people, Steven just wants to sometimes.

The absolute most perfect example is in the Light Distortion episode, Steven said they'd get the Rubies on the way back after hitting them with the ship, and he was unphased. Wander would've felt incredible levels of guilt after hitting them and quickly would've tried to help them inside and make sure they were alright, even if it meant slowing the mission, kinda like in The Rider when he stopped to fix a fruit stand they messed up.

Wander is A+.
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>>88858434
what the fuck this still comes on? The last episode i watched was some filler about pearl being a lesbian again
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>>88870901
I'm sad that Wander ended too soon. We'll never have another character like him, so deadset on helping everyone, being the nicest guy ever. I miss him very much.
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>>88860567
I'll have you know I both enjoy ice cream while considering it gay as hell.
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>>88867694
You don't even watch the show.
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I hope Skinny and Fat Jasper become main charcters
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>>88870901
Also Wander is one of the only shows where having the protagonist cry is extremely effective, even if they decided to make it "comedic" for some fucking reason.
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>>88870863
Indeed, plus one "internets" for all, huzzah!
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>>88868100
Diamonds have more mass the shed tears so they would beat steven in a crying contest
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MEGA PLEASE
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they stated they did not want the generic i hate crying, super macho power fantasy
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>>88871087
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>all these newfags want a mega spoonfed to them on /co/

What's the matter, never had to dig something out of the /trash/ before?
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>>88871213
>at first i think it's a legit post about the bullshit here
>nah it's just someone thinking it's a clever way to hint to people
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>download the megas
>watch them on youtube anyways
get ass blasted
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I love Steven Universe, but god damn this kid cries a lot.

Like I'm pretty much the first person to cry in any movie, but god damn even I think this kid needs to sack up.
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>>88871213

>Trash link is ded

cmon now I checked that first
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>all this triggering from obvious shitposting
Why do tumblrinas have to take everything so seriously?
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>>88871053
I did. And now I don't because of it.
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Just finished the newest bomb. What does Yellow mean, that there's still time?
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>>88871868
She doesn't know the Cluster's gone kaput.
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>>88871166
https://mega.nz/#F!KAo3EICC!N4teHfCUHBrIHlEy5Su69g
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>>88867611
>significantly higher among males than females?
Oh isn't this because men use far more aggressive means of killing themselves than women?
Women take pills and sit waiting to die, men slit their writs or shoot themselves.
Men are much better at committing suicide than women.
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>>88872083
Women hang themselves or some other trivial way of doing shit.

Oh, and the fucking letters. They leave letters for people to find. God damn that's stupid. All full of "I just couldn't handle it" exposition.
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>>88867699
>>88870901
If Steven was an adult it would be a more even match. He could have mastered things like telepathic empathy and whatnot.

As it stands Wander is a goddamn life guru. He's amazing and I doubt even Adult Steven could outdo him.
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>>88872230
>trivial way of doing shit.
Trivial suicide. An odd thought.
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>>88864986
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>>88871065
Fat Jasper as in the angry cuck we know and love or the Carnelian?
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>>88865612
One Piece is one of the few series that actually present people crying like how real people cry
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>>88872401
Carnelian
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>>88872410
With their butts?
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>>88872448
Yes
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"woah, they're all coming out of the woodwork"
This show would be better off without Amythest post season 1 and Lapis and Peridot after her small transformation.
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>>88872537
This show would be better if it had better writing, had less pointless, and didn't flanderize its characters so often
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>>88872592
*pointless filler
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>>88867611
Women actually do more suicide attempts, but they do them in such a way that someone else has a chance of intervening in time, like dramatically overdosing on pills and leaving the pill bottle right there so that anyone seeing them would immediately know that they should call the ambulance. When men kill themselves they plan it more thoroughly and use more dramatic means.

Men can fuck up too, for example driving into the wrong direction in traffic is a really asshole way to try to kill yourself because you'll essentially become a murderer on the side.

However, apparently a vast majority of people from both sexes trying to kill themselves usually sort of regret it at the last minute or are happy they got saved if someone prevents it, so in a sense women are just listening to their emotions more when they make their suicide attempts shittier, because there's this hope that someone will stop it in them and they're leaving a chance for that last-minute intervention
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>>88860411

YOU CAN'T HAVE CHARACTERS JUST SAY HOW THEY FEEL! THAT MAKES ME ANGRY!

>>88861084

>pacifist
>Stabbed his mom's friend in the chest when she challenged him
>Proceeded to say he was going to tell all his friends the truth, and what he just did
>Sent 5 rubies to a potentially neverending purgatory in the vacuum of space
>ORGANISED HIS OWN ARMY OF SENTIENT PLANTS COMPLETE WITH AIR FORCE TO ATTACK SOMEONE
>Jumps into action multiple times with his shield to defend others, once to bonk his enemy captain america style, and once to cook root vegetables
>Has won against jasper twice as a fusion, multiple times against peridot, drawn with pearl and amethyst with connie and solo respectively, and occasionally has to stop the gems fighting
>That second time with jasper, he beat the shit out of her with three yoyos before peridot stabbed her with a metal bar

Out of context, that's fucking psychopath levels of behaviour.

>>88863273

Yes, yes it did. You never noticed because when aang did it, he would nearly kill someone with his avatar state.

>>88864958

That was pretty neat. But we still don't know why they didn't want him going to the palanquin, other than it was pink diamond's.

>>88865554

Wut

Also, to sum up this absurd thread in the first place, steven is a human that doesn't mature as fast as other humans, as has been stated previously, and has also gone through a lot of absolutely terrible shit in a very short space of time.
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How long till we see Jasper cry?
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>>88872673
THE SADNESS
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>>88872673
Jasper may be a cuck but she is not a pussy.
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>>88872829
>she
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>>88872884
SHE
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>>88860486
Yeah Steven literally says he's crying her tears.
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I WANT MY DADDY BACK, COMPUTER GIVE ME MY DADDY BACK. WAAAHH
>bang bang bang
GIVE HIM BACK GIVE HIM BACK!
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>>88872673
That's going to be hard seeing as how JASPER IS FUCKING DEAD!
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>>88869839
Because she, dear anon, isn't what we call "a little bitch".
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>>88872829
THICC
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Anyone else a little creeped out by the way gems of the same type seem to have the same personality?
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>>88873152
they don't all have to same personality they just tend to have the same traits because they're born to fulfill a specific purpose. Amethyst and the other amethysts aren't exactly the same, neither is Jasper or Skinny or Carnelian, they're all just really loud and physical and kinda dumb because they're supposed to be war dogs
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So when is Zuke's last episode going to air so they can finally officially announce that she's gone and her annoying fans get BTFO?
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>>88860567
>healthy emotional expression
>crying like a little bitch
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>>88861084
He poofed Bismuth
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>>88858434
The 1st and 3rd make sense
The 2nd one is forced shit
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>>88858502
>eye drooping

Why? What is this? Is she stroking out? These fucking animators man...
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>>88870426
>>88870286
Sounds like you have a healthy case of sociopathy.
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>>88860567
Thank you. Of course now you will have a bunch of idiots whining because you used the phrase "toxic masculinity" as if being aware and in touch with your emotions and communication isn't the key to romantic, social, and personal success while still complaining about how hard it is because "as a guy everyone expects you to be tough".
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>>88861168
>Not using multiple major media aggregation/forum sites for maximum enjoyment

ISHYGGYDYGGYDOO
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>>88861885
This. Not only that but being able to talk through issues and communicate your emotions tends to help you resolve shit. Bottling things up and letting stuff fester just makes your life suck
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>>88872230
Its telling that you even when people kill themselves you still need to find a way to trivialize women.
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>>88871868
The Earth hasn't blown up, so YD and BD can visit and abduct a bunch of humans for Pink Diamond's zoo. That's Yellow Diamond's idea of being nice to Blue: "gifts" in the form of abducted humans.

That's going to be the Season 4 finale at this rate.
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Tears are what makes it deep.
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It might be wishful thinking on my part but I feel like all this mentally scaring situations, crying and such is going to lead Steven into becoming this quiet, solitary edgelord who has traded emotion for action when he's grown.

Like say there is an episode where Steven and co. are brought into the future and we see that Steven has grown into the protector of Earth and who prefers to work alone. Young Steven and the Gems also see how he deals with threats to the planet, being merciless and cold and going as far as killing people. Future Steven and the gems get into an argument he finally yells "I can't lose you again!!!" and he goes into this diatribe about how he tried to do things the pacifistic way but got everyone killed as a result and he has to be "strong in the real way" in order to ensure on one else dies because of him.

Or maybe instead he turns into a more antagonistic character who single handedly killed off the entire Gem race except for an army of Gems he's created to take over the galaxy to ensure peace and harmony in an extremist dictatorship and he's highly feared because of it.

He's also strong as balls and is capable of doing things that not even the Gems could think he could ever do like crystallize his body into an indestructible crystal form similarly to Armstrong and his nanomachines (excuse the meme but it was the closest comparison I could think of).

That would be hype as fuck to see but I highly doubt the show would do that even though they could easily lead up to something like that if they wanted to.
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>>88875597
>nice blog
but i agree some form of powerful and more stern future Steven would really make me happy, maybe not full edge mode but more mature and willing to kill if it means protecting his loved ones
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>>88875597
i don't find the word to express myself but i will be blunt:
Anon this is some retarded shit
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>>88858434
Top is the first pain they have ever felt or ever heard about anyone feeling
Middle is a kid who thinks he is about to fucking die and wants his dad.
Bottom is an emo chick who needs to grow up.
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>>88870035
All they had to do was have him say "I just want to see my dad again" while crying rather than "daaaaaaad, I want my daaaaaad" like they did
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who is best grill?
and why is it skin diamond?
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Is the Murdercock rising again?
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>warpdrive scene is actually really well done
>half ruined by writing and steven's whning
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>>88865128
well, their not much but their more interesting that you'll ever be irl. Eh, I'm not even trying, but you know it's true anyway
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>>88874854
She's raising one eyebrow and lowering the other in a commonly-understood expression of confusion or skepticism, you actual, literal, unable-to-read-socia-cues autist.
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>>88876270
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>>88876289
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did rose cry pink diamond's tears when she brutally murdered her
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>>88864978
>>88870840
The ship bends the laws of space and time.
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>>88876170
In the autist's defense, her face there and indeed the entire episode looked like shit.
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>>88875992
Soon. He's finally found a new target.
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>>88867611
Because when women fail they can go slut it up and get back on their feet. When a guy fucks up he is supposed to fix on his own
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>>88876339
No, she probably cried her own tears though.

Seriously, why do so many people think the empath shit is a Rose power?
None of the gems have ever said Rose could do the dream shit like Steven does. The most they've ever said was that she cared for all living things.

When Chille Tid happened, none of them thought this was something related to Rose. Every other time Steven's gotten a new power, the gems were like "Oh yeah, Rose could do that" but not there.

It's likely a power unique to him as a hybrid. Something with his organic brain working along with gem light wavelength shit or whatever..
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>>88876413
>B-because women are all sluts!
Every time
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>>88876384
>Yellow and Blue go back to Earth to offer humans a chance to jump ship.
>Greg somehow gets a chance to go up and talk to both of them.
>Blue gets all shocked that he broke out of the Zoo
>He tries to explain how they can't just separate people from their families
>Goes further explaining how both of them are dealing with their grief terribly.
>That you should neither wallow in the past nor try to erase it entirely
>That there should be a balance
>"That's how it was when I lost Rose."
>"ROSE!?"
>All hell breaks loose

God they can not come soon enough.
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>>88869839
Hopefully she gets her SU crying quota done the way Peri did, with a single tear that is wiped quickly and forgotten about.
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>>88870467
Do you hate living there?
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>>88875597
This is some fanfiction-y shit, anon. I like the idea behind this image as much as the next guy, but don't be gay about it.
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>>88876461
Just because a woman can be a slut doesn't mean she will be a slut. The point is that a man is expected to be self-sustaining while a woman can just leach off of her boyfriend/husband if she needs to. How many women are interested in a jobless man?
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>>88858434
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>>88860486
It's almost like his major power is empathy. It might be like as if one of the central themes to the show is empathy.

That's just ridiculous anon.
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>>88870795
Out of all the glaring issues with the show, you noticed that?
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>>88870814
Sugar finds excessive crying hilarious. The show itself also makes this pretty clear.
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>>88870840
The mere fact he wasn't instantly killed proves he's got some sort of speedforce barrier. You know, like in those cape books.
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>>88861233
No, men often express themselves, through their hands, creativity, film, music, actions and so on.
Just because someone is not crying does not mean they don't feel deeply.
You clearly know nothing about men.
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>>88867722
>that fucking scene
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>>88858434
Because women wrote it and women get off to strong emotions like men do to porn.
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>>88876270
>>88876289
>>88876306
Fucking gorgeous. Just amazing. I'm glad you posted it. That episode was fantastic. The art was just grand. I hope he comes back and does more storyboarding.
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>>88876384
That scene was so cute, and then the direction it went off in astounded me. Did not see it coming. I really enjoyed the way blue diamond interacted with greg.
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>>88870943
Anon that wasn't even that long ago...
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>>88867722
Yup, Space Maaaadness is totally trying to do the same thing SU is. Steven is a 14 year old kid who just wanted his dad and thought he just killed his friends. Totally the same thing, brah.
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>>88870943
Character development is totally filler. Yup. Totally dude.
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>>88872631
Don't forget the time he snipered the fucking mayor, complete with shades on and sinister smile as he takes building cover. Pacifist, my ass.
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>>88873449
Her episode this bomb was pretty good though. The Zuke hate meme is getting stale fast.
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>>88875194
>can't read
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>>88877198
Could it also be foreshadowing that Blue Diamond can be reasoned with in the end game to protect Earth from Yellow Diamond. She seems to have a striking similarity in her actions to Pearl.
Both loved Rose/Pink Diamond. Both attempt to continue her legacy of protecting Earth/maintaining the zoo and the bubbled Roses.
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>>88877336
Not as tiresome as the Zuke Defense Force has become.
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>>88877125
>No, men often express themselves, through their hands, creativity, film, music, actions and so on.
wow it's almost as if all humans are capable of expressing their emotions in varied ways, each of which are valid as long as they don't harm others
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That zoo does not have enough genetic diversity to maintain that level of population, especially for millions of years. It's a miracle that all of those humans weren't completely inbred
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>>88877125
>No, people often express themselves, through their hands, creativity, film, music, actions and so on.
Just because someone is not crying does not mean they don't feel deeply.
You clearly know nothing about people.
Ftfy
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>>88877452
There is the Choosening. Gems may understand enough about biological reproduction to minimalise the effects by choosing the sexual partners for the human captives. Given the mixed skin tones instead of a single tone after 5 thousand years of no new blood, I think that may be the case.
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>>88877452
How many times are faggots gonna bring this up thinking they're so smart and shit?

First, there's nothing saying that that huge station only has one group of 20 some humans.
Second, they went through very selective breeding, which helps keeping the genetic diversity functional.
Third, they fucking have a ship that changes the laws of reality. Them having tech to modify the DNA of the Zoomans to avoid mutations is not a stretch.

The inbreeding argument isn't as simple as you faggots think it goes.
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>>88877431
>wow it's almost as if all humans are capable of expressing their emotions in varied ways, each of which are valid as long as they don't harm others
I never claimed otherwise, I was merely responding to the poster who claimed men don't express themselves.
>>88877456
Once again I never claimed otherwise, but I would add to my sentence that, men would commonly and often prefer to express themselves in that manner, whereas women absolutely do like to do it verbally and directly.
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>>88858434

because in all three of those situations people woudl realistically cry.

soldiers cry all the damn time, as do 14 year olds who can't stop a car thats driving.

so why wouldn't soldiers in an intergalactic war cry? why wouldn't a 14 year old whos about to kill his whole family cry.

why wouldn't you cry if you were one of only 4 people in the entire universe of your kind, and then one of you died?

you've cried after several women rejected you, so why is it wrong for this group of space humans to cry when they are rejection for the first time in their lives?

you live a very cushy life where you can complain about cartoons. maybe try being more empathetic and realize that crying is not only normal, but common, and that you just live a life that doesn't force you to as often as others.

none of these people in the cartoon are crying for no reason. the real quesiton is why arent people crying in all the other shows and movies and stories out there when they're going through tough stuff?

it would be realistic if they did. the manliest of men have been known to cry in battle.
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>>88877164
I thought SU head writer is a guy? Then again it's Matt and he or she is a liar.
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>>88877518
y'know anon, it's okay to cry. it's good for you. crying shouldn't be considered an inherently feminine act. it's also not fair to suggest that women are less likely to use creative outlets to express themselves. hell, steven universe is rebecca sugar expressing herself
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>>88877398
Had the same thought and totally agree. This isn't the kind of show to show BD in such turmoil and not do something about it. I'm thinking Steven thought the same thing.

One of the issues with the 11 minute format is that they don't get to show a lot of what the characters think or feel after a major event like that. I'm sure Steven was listening very intently to whatever the Diamonds said and he came to a similar conclusion that BD can be reasoned with. He's not a little idiot. You know he'd at least try.

Fug that final episode was so good.
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>>88877572
>crying shouldn't be considered an inherently feminine act
Maybe it "shouldn't be". But it IS because women have much easier to tears than men, and use crying as a tool.

Women cry to get attention, to get compassion and to position themselves as victims in conflicts. This isn't misogynist shit either, it's very basic nature. If a woman is crying your immediate reaction is to ask why, comfort her and protect her. Just like you would with a crying child. It's instinctual, and a very clever defence mechanism not found in other animals.

If men did the same, who the fuck would comfort them? Society would be one big pool of tears because everyone would be crying about everything.
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>>88877542
Wow, thanks Becky "Lol Crying Is Funny" Sucrose!
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>>88877572
Never said it wasn't okay to cry but yes crying is more associated with women because they do it much more.
Once again I am not claiming women don't express themselves creatively, but that men do look to put their emotions into actions and form, it's not necessarily that men don't want to cry but that they prefer other means of expression.
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>>88877518
Brody, you're on the Internet. There's loads of female authors, artists, and so on that show how wrong your general assumption is. Most men and women aren't talented enough to express themselves through their talents. I don't think emotional reaction is something you can easily boil down to gender, since the main difference is hormones and there is a very wide range for the amounts of hormones present in people. Test can make one more prone to violence, and estro more prone to emotional outburst, MAYBE. But at the end of the day it's a much more complicated process than you're asserting.
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Crying doesn't accomplish anything.
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>>88877621
i don't know what kind of life you've had where you think all women use tears as a means of manipulating people, but i feel very sorry for you

>>88877651
society conditions boys to believe crying is for girls, for the weak, "big boys don't cry" etc. it's not a matter of preference as much as it is a matter of learned behavior

>>88877685
>Research is backing up that theory. Studies of the various kinds of tears have found that emotional tears contain higher levels of stress hormones than do basal (aka lubricating) or reflex tears (the ones that form when you get something in your eye). Emotional tears also contain more mood-regulating manganese than the other types. Stress "tightens muscles and heightens tension, so when you cry you release some of that," Sideroff says. "[Crying] activates the parasympathetic nervous system and restores the body to a state of balance."
http://www.webmd.com/balance/features/is-crying-good-for-you
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>>88877621
I think it's a bit of an American culture thing too, though not entirely. Other countries aren't nearly as staunchly opposed to men crying as we are. Here it's seen as practically criminal and everyone feels super awkward when a guy is crying. It varies by state though. Also nobody is going to shit on a guy for crying when his kids die.
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>>88869839
Yellow Diamond got close this episode, but she hasn't cried.
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>>88877710
>i don't know what kind of life you've had
It's called real life.
I'm sorry you're so incredibly sheltered.
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>>88877685
W-what? That's not true!
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>Jesus christ stop crying
>NO IT'S GOOD FOR ME!! BUUUHUUU

Alright but crying doesn't solve your problems.
Unless you think crying hard enough will make people solve your problems for you.
In the case of women, that's perfectly acceptable to assume but if you're a guy I wouldn't get my hopes up.
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>>88858434
Because sometimes people cry?
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>>88877685
I disagree, I've found that crying in stressful situations sort of releases some pent-up emotion that's blinding me, and I can think more clearly about things after having cried about them a bit. It's like a way of processing though the excess emotion clouding my thoughts, and after I've cried about it it's much easier to get over it and move on
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>>88865078
>cartoons are all just fighting and tits
But that's an anime
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>>88858434

What, do you not like the idea of people showing emotions other than anger? Are you a fucking sociopath or something?
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>>88877621
Yeah I'm sorry your experience with crying people has mainly been one of manipulation, but that's not the case for most people, a lot of folks cry just out of emotion and not as a tool of manipulation.

>If men did the same, who the fuck would comfort them?
Other men and women? The same as when women cry? What, do you for some reason think only men ever comfort crying people, who are only ever women?
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>>88858434
muh progressive, adult lorez
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>>88877658
You are not understanding what I'm saying and assuming too much.
No once did I say that women don't or can't express themselves creatively but that men like to do so as a means of letting out emotions and not just creatively also through actions, so because a man is not expressing himself in the way a woman normally would or expect, does not mean he is not expressing himself or that it some sort of unhealthy repression.
>>88877710
>society conditions boys to believe crying is for girls, for the weak, "big boys don't cry" etc. it's not a matter of preference as much as it is a matter of learned behavior
It's funny, here I am, a man, expressing himself, trying to communicate and get my thoughts across and you will simply not heat this viewpoint but instead make a tired, weak in my opinion, cliched argument.
Are you female? If so, maybe you should just consider what I'm saying with sincerity, you don't have to agree with me but just consider it next time a male relative is going through something, pay to attention to how he acts maybe more so than what he says. If you are male, which I doubt, because you seem to lack a certain understanding and have quite the resistance to what I've said, maybe you need a bit more age.
I don't even think that I've said anything negative about women, but merely standing up for men and giving a little insight into men but it seems you have very certain ideas about how and why men are, to even begin to consider anything else.
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>>88877877
If a woman encounters a crying man she immediately files him under homosexual mentally, and will only comfort him as he is now closer to female than male in her eyes.
You can pretend it's not true but reality is different.

Men can't afford to cry except when alone, because it emasculates them in the eyes of women. You want your girlfriend/wife cheating on you? Crying is the best way to ensure that happens, as she loses all respect for you as a man.

It's tragic yet comedic that you have women saying "men should cry too". Therein the paradox of wanting a man who can show his emotions, but not TOO much and only when it's appropriate according to her and doesn't potentially embarrass her.
If you think this sounds at all bitter, then it's time to open your eyes. Everyone is a filthy hypocrite.
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>>88877796
Society encourages women to cry. It's not really their fault for giving in. I'm hfa gril which I'm told basically boils down to me having a male typical brain. I don't feel much need to bond through feelings compared to most women. When someone close to me dies people are constantly telling me "it's okay to cry!" when all I really want is to focus on my work as a way to deal through the emotional loss. It's almost as if people feel gratified when women cry.
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>>88877987
WOMEN expect other women to cry.
Believe me when I say most men would love it if women never cried. It's horrible to watch and horrible to listen to. It's also emotional blackmail where you're instantly considered scum if you don't at least feign concern.

It's like a baby crying but with the added bullshit added cause that the first guy to hear it has to take care of it.
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>>88877964
What country do you live in, apropos?
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>>88878066
Norway.
What's it to you?
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>>88878047
That's true, now that I think of it I only ever hear it from females or the occasional "sensitive" numale. Seeing someone else cry is very awkward and just succeeds in me feeling like a jerk for either causing it or not caring/doing anything about it.

This movie got it right. Aside from any chemical balancing benefits, crying allows children or otherwise helpless individuals to get help from others because it raises the flag "something is wrong". Not surprisingly many will take advantage of it.
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>>88877621
You hang out with too many dudebros, sluts, and assholes. I don't have it, but there is a video of a boy in a martial arts class that punches wood and cries. His dad tells him it's okay to vry, to go ahead and get it out, but also use that pain to do better. He tries again and breaks the wood.

Men displaying emotions and crying is something that's always been around but society looked down on. But now, in this age that's trying to change. Slowly but surely, it's becoming okay for men to be emotional and not seen any less. A show like this is trying to instill this into children. It's okay to cry, but you also have to get shit done too.
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>>88877964
When you say "women" are you thinking of the exact same woman that does all these things, or are you thinking of one woman that says it's okay then another woman bitching? Times have been changing grandpa, if a girl is upset about a man crying for a legit reason, then that specific girl is just a bitch. If he's crying because he can't watch his favorite show today and has to wait an hour, then he's a little bitch.
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>>88878291
>and not seen any less
- is what you tell yourself and want to believe, but crying men will always be looked down on and instinctively considered weak, because they are.
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>women pushing other women to cry.
>tfw my mother and grandmother would whoop my ass if they found out I was crying at school again.
>tfw my younger cousin would tattle on me when I cried and tried to hide it.

To be fair, I cried for stupid reasons. The women in my family did not like weakness, boy or girl.
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>>88877398
I imagine Blue could be reasoned with to just leave the earth alone after it comes to their attention that The Cluster is a dud.
As long as the crystal gems don't get involved at all, and Steven doesn't reveal who he is. She might want to preserve Pink's legacy, but I doubt she could get along with Pink's murderer and her co-conspirators.
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You know Batman cryes often. The media featuring the character just never show it much. SU I guess does the opposite approach.
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>>88878291
>crying allows refocusing of strength to bond and fight harder
That's what the Romans believed and it served them pretty well.

>>88878363
No crying ever in your entire life means you're mentally broken and autistic. Our bodies are capable of doing it for a reason.
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>>88878363
>will always be looked down on.
Only if you want to see it and believe that. You should honestly meet more people that are not just in bars or what you see in media. Things are changing and this generation is becoming softer to the point it's harmful, but accepted nonetheless. If anything, other guys will pick on each other more for crying just as you are now and others in this thread.
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>>88860567
It isn't a healthy emotional expression of every single fucking character of all time forever. The effect of crying is lost every time it happens including in today's style of standards where most crying is done behind closed doors where no one can see. It loses the impact of "Wow, this character is actually very sad." and instead becomes "Here we go again, another fucking crying episode." it just screams that everyone in this show is a disheveled emotional mess and even the antagonist leaders are disheveled emotional messes.

It's about the same as using an airhorn in a commercial to grab someones attention, it works at first and then just becomes a fucking joke after everyone does it. That's all sugar knows, crying and lesbians, shes a fucking hack of any kind of character development.
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She probably made those amethyst cry some bitch tears afterwards
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>>88878441
>everyone in this show is a disheveled emotional mess and even the antagonist leaders are disheveled emotional messes.

Oh shit, really? Characters going through stressful situations have emotions and cry? Even the antagonists? Ah fuck man, it's almost like that is one of the points of the show!
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>>88878475
Good characters deal with their problems.
Bad characters cry about them.
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>>88878505
Looks like these characters do both.
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>>88878475
Nigga, it's EVERY EPISODE. I'm a different guy and I would say I do still overall enjoy the show, but there are more ways to express sadness than crying. I just want some fucking variety.
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>>88878475
There are more emotions than just crying and acting like cunts. That's all there is to this mode, acting like a total dickbag, and then crying about why they were being a dickbag.

Let alone, let's be fucking clear for a moment, it was ESTABLISHED at the start that gems have no emotion and most human actions are completely foreign to them, but here you see the fucking leaders of the antagonist having human emotions. The point of interacting with earth and why earth was good for gems was because it awoken an emotional beast in them that laid dormant and the only thing they knew was their purpose. Now that has been rewriten by this trash where even the pillars of of the gem race, these perfect diamonds who are in no way flawless showing a flaw of human emotion.

Also dealing with the death of an ally THOUSANDS of years ago isn't fucking stressful, they are being a total fucking bitch and you would think with all the galaxy domination they are trying to do they would get the fuck over it and get back to their duties at hand.

So no, all of this is just bullshit, not everything has to end with crying, sad songs, not everyone deals with stress by crying or acting like dickbags. This is a very feminine thing to cry about every fucking trial and struggle, let alone trying to put these thoughts into space rocks who are supposed to be estranged to any emotion is fucking ridiculous.
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Gems more like Goblins
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THEY'RE THICK
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>>88878819
Where's the Brazzers logo?
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>>88878819
Literally the second the diamonds leave those Quartz are going to shove Agate into a closet and take over the base huh?

Like Pearl said, if she calls about an insurrection at the Zoo then she'll get shattered or demoted for being a gem that can't complete her given task.
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I'll state in advance I'm a man, so I'm a valid target here for ridicule.

There's nothing inherently 'unmanly' about crying. Evolutionary speaking crying gave us a way to relive stress and communicate distress to others. It's an easy way to get attention and release tension I guess. But there are different degrees to it.

Not crying artistically because muh masculinity but doing nothing because autismo like a robot.
Not crying because you're going to focus emotions into other outlets.
Crying you have heavy emotions and letting them out means you can grieve and do something about it.
Crying because you're a bitch and not doing anything about it either.

First and last seem extremely autistic in that you don't know to control your emotions in a more mature or complex way. The 3rd down is the most admirable to me and 2nd to a lesser extent a sign of (emotional) strength. It shows you're either going to do something about it, or that AND have the humility to rely on others and trust them with your emotions.

The 2nd however CAN show more strength at times and amplify the factor because you know they're holding in that pain.

Nothing to do with male or female.
But like others have said there ARE other outlets to showing emotion. Creativity, passion, action, depression, comedy, even stoicism.

I think SU used to pull this off pretty well.
Pearl was born a slave, so she inverted her sadness towards genius and elegance.
Amethyst is a house nigger pet so she dealt with her pain through comedy.
And Garnet stoicism.

The problem is, these 3 didn't ever get nearly the kind of development to connect their history with their inner lives and pain. And let's face it, the crying in SU IS overused.
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>>88878993
Just like with comedy, crying requires timing. You know Laughtracks, like on the BBT and bad sitcoms that are like spitting and slapping you in the face screaming LAUGH THE FAKE-TRACK IS LAUGHING THAT MEANS IT'S FUNNY WHY AREN'T YOU LAUGHING trying to manipulate and force your emotions? That's what SU feels like. No timing, no catharsis, no real stakes.

It's not Shakespeare or hamlet or McBeth. It's always something like, Steven crying over a dropped cheeseburger or something pointless and dumb and obviously unearned. It feels, vapid in a way. As people have pointed out before when you cry without setup again and again the overuse and fatigue really kills any emotional impact, especially when there was already so little to begin with.

That last part is what makes the crying infuriating. There's no stakes at hand, ever. No one has ever been shattered on-screen, there are no crushing battles or real threats at any time, everything is incidental like 'Oh Steven's going to crash the ship!' (That entire episode was pointless), and that makes the crying piss dumb. Crying without real buildup or stakes is like a comedy laughing at itself with no jokes. Lazy, and kind of insulting. It's a very bourgeoisie show that way, how it tries to coddle viewers from real pain or emotional risk but still wants all the emotions and SADNESS resulting from nothing. I honestly wish SU was the kind of show that deserved it's tears but as it is it's too forced and trying to use it as a gimmick comes off as bad.
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>>88878558
That said,
> it was ESTABLISHED at the start that gems have no emotion and most human actions are completely foreign to them

This is blatantly untrue.
It's just that for most Gems who are mass produced slaves off the assembly line they don't have the luxury of really exploring Emotions. The Diamonds seemingly do, among other gems (The CG and liberated ones especially) but it's not equal or equivalent to human emotions, it's hard for a human for example to understand Rose's fascination with life or Lapis's isolation in a mirror because it's all treated a little alien.

Something happening thousands of years ago doesn't invalidate it? Especially to a species that lives tens and possibly hundreds of thousands of years, a 1000 years is in the blink of an eye.

>they are being a total fucking bitch and you would think with all the galaxy domination they are trying to do they would get the fuck over it and get back to their duties at hand.
Maybe some of them don't care about it like you think? Honest question, are you legitimately autistic? If you're the one that's been vehemently defending a lack of emotion and JUST GET OVER IT ALREADY it sounds like you're the type of person who has trouble understanding other emotional viewpoints and complex social points of view.

Blue Diamond clearly has a lot of attachment to pink and the empathy she's shown is a clear anti-thesis to YD, whose also been shown to pretty much suppress all emotion like you're suggesting for the sake of her work. This is a valid form of display, both are. They're like ancient greek god characters who have a lot of muddled feelings in their pantheon, and even those so-called ancient gods were known to cry a nut or throw temper tantrums thousands of years later.

But Steven crying does get really grating along with everything else not done right too.
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>>88858434
Sugar is a hack.
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>>88879010
>It's not Shakespeare or hamlet or McBeth.
>it's not Shakespeare or Shakespeare or Shakespeare
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>>88879094
>Implying Shakespeare actually wrote those
Whatever you know I mean. You're over 18+ right? I don't have to give an english class lesson on the use of tragedy and all that.
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>>88878973
>GET THE KETCHUP WE PROGRAMMED THE TREES TO MAKE THOSE HOTDOG THINGS AMETHYST TOLD US ABOUT!
>WHICH AMETHYST?
>THE SHORT ONE!
>WHICH SHORT ONE?
>THE ONE FROM EARTH!
>WE'RE ALL FROM EARTH!
>THE SHORTEST ONE!
>OH YEAH I LOVE THAT DORK, WHERE'S THE KETCHUP?
>IN THE PANTRY NEXT TO HOLLY BLUE!
>FOUND IT, IT WAS PRESSED UP TO HER BUTT!
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>>88870389
>>88861522
>VLC
lol
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>>88870220
That scene will never not be funny for me.
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>>88858434
Because its a show made by pussies, for pussies.
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The thing that annoys the crap out of me is that every filler episode since the first Steven bomb has been:

Act 1: Character starts getting indiscriminately upset and pissy over nothing

Act 2: Steven does Mary Sue cute things and convinces said character to confess why they're shitty in a completely unconvincing way

Act 3: Character explains they have some deep seeded stupid emotional trauma in some cringy sequence in a desperate attempt to get a "feels" emotional reaction.

This is the kind of thing you need to build up with multiple episodes of laid back fun and foreshadowing, not try to drop on us each episode for ratings.
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>>88879811
name 3 episodes, 2 shorts and 1 steven bomb that does this
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>>88879457
Whatever you smug cunt.
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>>88878131
>Lamar
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>>88875597
I would actually watch that shit, honestly. Main hero turning villain is my fetish.
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>>88879010
>It's always something like, Steven crying over a dropped cheeseburger or something pointless and dumb and obviously unearned.
But they don't have arms
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>>88877398
>She seems to have a striking similarity in her actions to Pearl.
Both loved Rose/Pink Diamond.
>You Both Love Me And I Love Both Of You song
>Pearl is colored blue and Greg colored yellow
>mfw
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>>88862825
Fucking this
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>>88863985
And bean tears
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>>88876469
I need this!
And the Diamonds reacting to Steven being half human
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>>88877497
>Third, they fucking have a ship that changes the laws of reality. Them having tech to modify the DNA of the Zoomans to avoid mutations is not a stretch.

I´ll be honest, seeing the contempt Gems have for organic life I don't consider very plausible that they'd spend any time investigating anything related to DNA.
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>>88878457
Indeed. No one mentioned that.
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>>88860547
Tell that to Steven.
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>>88881578
Either that or they dump any malformed children out into space to keep the gene pool clean
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>>88883261
I blame his father
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>>88881578
I mean, until a couple days ago I wouldn't have thought they'd have a human zoo but they've kept their population going for 5000 years somehow.
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>tfw humanity becomes worse than the diamond authority.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEHeJMEh_4Q
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>>88858641
MATT BURNETT IS RUINING THIS SHOW
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>>88868176
>tumblr/chans mating dance
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>>88863581
Nono
Steven is trans child
Wich means no matter how old he is its ok for him to have sex with minors
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>>88877080
To be fair I did ask solely about crying. He could have disliked it for other, more common and glaring reasons.
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>>88877621
Thing about crying is it should be okay to cry if a situation calls for it. Women cry all the time (whether to manipulate or not) which is retarded. For a good use of crying in media see Fist of the North Star.
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I can't believe Greg cucked an entire zoo
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>>88884525
Too bad he's a beta and pussied out.
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>>88862825
I agree
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>>88878131
Holy shit Lamra calm the fuck down.
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>>88877964
Spoken like a true virgin
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>>88876170
Actually her eyebrows are raised while her eyelid is lowered, you blind piece of shit.
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implying that a werbu knows what a human is
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