Who is your favorite Sliver-Age Marvel artist?

>>88835156
>Ditko is a mental case
>Steranko is a white supremacist
>Romita thinks Spider-Man should fly
Kirby, please.

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Gil Kane was purty good.

>>88835219
>Steranko is a white supremacist
Don't do this here.

>>88835219
>Ditko is a mental case
I am not well informed about this. Could you care to explain?

>>88835730
He considers himself, like, the King of Libertarians. He never wanted any royalty for his Marvel work millions, nobody has seen his face in decades, and uses old sketches (the kind worth thousands to collectors) to wipe his office.

>>88835785
>the King of Libertarians. He never wanted any royalty for his Marvel work
How does that work?

>>88835845
He thinks that you shouldn't get money for a job that was already paid.

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>>88835577
Oh wait

Shit, Marvel, right

>>88835845
https://storify.com/miniver/how-becoming-a-follower-of-ayn-rand-will-likely-co

Ditto and Kirby

>>88835932
>>88835865
Well, damn.
That is some heavey story.

>>88836109
His ideology and his Mr. A inspired Alan Moore's Rorschach. Go figure.

>>88836145
All of the Watchmen characters are based on Ditko's.

>>88835785
he sounds pretty based

Gil Kane
Bill Everett
Wally Wood
Marie Severin
Jack Kirby
John Romita
Steve Ditko

Steranko because he bitch slapped Bob Kane.

>>88836208
He's a hobo, anon.

>>88835156
A better question is who was the most well adjusted artist in Silver Age Marvel?

>>88836264
>believing a white supremacist

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>>88835219
>>88836289
>Steranko is a white supremacist

Where the fuck did this come from?

I still maintain that Ditko is really the one absorbing celebrity souls to extend his own lifespan and Lee just stole the credit.

Why else wouldn't we have seen his face in decades? Because he doesn't age.

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>>88835219

>favorite artist

>we must assess the personal worthiness of each artist as a person, on the moral compass of modern internet ethics.

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I like John Buscema.

Also possibly qualifies for "most well adjusted artist" because he had near-open contempt for superheroes.

>>88836352
welcome to /co/mblr

>>88836347
he endorsed Trump so now people are triggered.

don't get me wrong, i hate Trump. but just because he endorsed Trump as president doesn't mean he's a fucking white supremacist. get real dude.

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>>88836352
Being a good person is more important than being a good artist.

>>88835156

Even if it must be only four choices Wally Wood should be there over Steranko AND Romita.

>>88836419
It's not just those four, it's whoever is your favorite.

>>88836352
Their mental estate could determine in what conditions they would work.

>>88836352
It's kind of important, otherwise no one will want to work with you.

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>>88836498
>unironically believing this

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>>88835932
This is brilliant
> Now let's re-read Spider-Man in light of all this. Peter Parker is the struggling freelancer (like Ditko) with secret power (creativity)

>>88836288

Obviously it's Jack

>inb4 some autist calls a decorated war hero who killed Nazis so you can shitpost on the itnernet all day a SJW

>>88836523
>people should be evil
Edgy, kid.

>>88836532
I recall it being pointed out that when Ditko was writing the plots, Jameson was clearly a mediocrity trying to keep the gifted people (superheroes) down. As soon as Ditko left, Lee started making Jameson more sympathetic.

>>88836568
And Peter wanted to beat on protesters.

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>>88836532
>>88836568
>>88836586

>people seriously believe that Stan Lee wrote this comic

>>88836636
>people seriously believe that Stan Lee wrote

>>88836636
I never liked his style very much. It looks a bit... 1940s.

>>88835219
>Romita thinks Spider-Man should fly
Whatnow?

>>88836636
Isn't that why Ditko quit, because Lee was writing dialogue that contradicted Ditko's plots? Or am I thinking of Kirby? Maybe both.

It must be rough working away at comics you plotted yourself, only to have the editor contradict you with a few words in a dialogue balloon.

>>88836636
Even crazy Ditko himself never pretended Stan wasn't writing the dialog.

>>88836688
None of the Marvel artists had any idea what teenage fashions were like.

Unless you count the Marvel teen humor guys who went over to Archie, like Dan DeCarlo and Al Hartley.

>>88836698
I think anon meant what Jim Shooter said about JRSR:
>I never liked John Romita’s approach to Spider-Man. I love John. He’s a Hall-of-Famer. All-time great. Grandmaster. And a great human being. But his theories of how to draw Spider-Man appalled me. I hated the fact that he simplified the costume. I’d hear him explaining to some young artist that one of the lines on the mask represented the bottom of Spider-Man’s nose and one his mouth. What?! Worse, he’d tell people not to worry about the physics of web-swinging. Just have the web-line go off panel, he’d tell them. It’s just a trumped-up device to justify “flying,” said he, think of it as pulling Spider-Man along.

>>88836729
No, I mean the art style; it looks amateurish.

>>88836705
>Isn't that why Ditko quit, because Lee was writing dialogue that contradicted Ditko's plots?
The two of them did that to each other a lot. And it probably annoyed the hell out of both of them.

But it's not why Ditko left. Ditko left because Marvel didn't pay him royalties for the Spider-Man Cartoon.

>>88835156
>didn't punch Bob Kane
>didn't punch Bob Kane
>punched Bob Kane in the face
>didn't punch Bob Kane

Is this even a contest?

>>88836773
I thought his ideology rejected royalties?

I love Steranko's work but every panel I've seen with him makes him seem like an arrogant twat.

>>88836636
Why does Peter sound like a school shooter?

>>88836705
There are multiple reasons rumored for his leaving with no conclusive single reason, its probably a mix of them

>General dialogue/character disagreements
>Spider-Man cartoon
>Identity of the Green Goblin
I'm sure I'm forgetting some

>>88836875
Ditko's Peter is very much a school shooter-y type, angry, struggling, holier than thou nerd with uncontrollable violent urges

>>88836910
>with no conclusive single reaso
According to Ditko it's no one's business why he left except him and Stan, except when he handed in his last pages saying he was leaving Stan wouldn't come out of his office. So only Ditko knows

>>88836910
He's a victim of his own enviornment thou. Everyone in that Spiderman was pretty savage

>>88836963
So are school shooters and terrorists

>>88836875

Because Ditko was writing him

>>88836788
>that story on Shooter's blog about Steranko asking if he wanted to hear his "death laugh" and promptly plunging off a cliff on his snowmobile cackling like a maniac

I don't even get the Stan Defense Force argument

>both the artists of F4 and ASM claim that they were plotting the stories
>read both runs and they have essentially nothing in common in terms of tone or style
>both artist leave their books
>Stan either leaves the book or the book completely changes when the new artist is brought on

>>88837080
Everyone knows Stan was getting credit for work he wasn't doing. Hell, it's why Wally Wood quit working for Marvel.

>>88837080
>>88837153
I think it's just important to remember that Stan did have some influence and unifying presence, even if it wasn't much

It's awful to solely credit Stan with ASM or FF, but it's also bad to not credit him at all (not nearly as bad as not crediting Kirby or Ditko imo but still)

>>88837284
>the SDF again

>>88837080
Hey, true believer! Stan the Man happens to be a very versatile writer, who could different kind of titles each month! Whenever his good dear friends Jack 'King' Kirby and Steve 'Sturdy' Ditko didn't feel like drawing anymore, Stan would writing so they wouldn't feel bad about themselves because that's the kind of 'Man' Stan is! But when Ditko left The Amazing Spider-Man™, along came John 'Jazzy' Romita and Stan couldn't help but to continue his vision with the web slinger! 'Nuff Said.
Excelsior!

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Jesus 60s Marvel was stacked.

i have a soft spot for Don Heck don't @ me

>>88835932

For pure insanity, Randian Ditko stories cannot be beat.

>>88836370
That looks like an opening page from a Marvel romance comic.

>>88836852
Steranko talks a lot on twitter about this amazing new innovative stuff he wants to do and the editors are too cowardly to allow, but he's never produced any examples of this great sequential stuff he's working on.

Jack Kirby wins for me overall, but I did really like Neal Adams' work on X-Men and Wally Wood's work on Daredevil.
Steranko and Ditko were superb as well.

Honestly, I like most of the Silver Age artists Marvel had. They draw circles around the Henderson/Leth quirky crap and Deodato/Land tracings we have nowadays.

>>88839520
I honestly can't see how any publisher or editor would say no to Steranko. The guy's just been coasting with Fury.

>>88836771
Despite Romita's description of how he drew Spider-Man, it never really felt like those things. I do think that he simplified the design a bit, but honestly that really helped make his fight panels fluid.

He's tied with Ditko and 80s era Romita's Jr. as my favorite Spider-Man artist.

>>88836370
>Also possibly qualifies for "most well adjusted artist" because he had near-open contempt for superheroes.
context pls

>>88836370
He liked drawing Conan much better.

>>88837080
Ditko gets plotting credits for ASM issues, the point of contention is that Lee gets top billing and a writing credit.

In order:
Ditko
Kirby
Steranko
Romita
Wood
Adams