ITT: Dumb BvS complaints

>>88785274
Snyder, stop posting. We will never forgive you.

>>88785274
SURE WOULD MAKE SENSE IF IT WAS IN THE FUCKING MOVIE AND DIDNT REQUIRE A GOD DAMN SECOND HAND EXPLANATION HUH FUCKBOY.

>>88785274
Here's one someone complained about to me.

Why did Superman kill the African Warlord in the beginning?

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>this guy got butthurt because everyone was trashing the movie in the other thread

>>88785297
>SURE WOULD MAKE SENSE IF IT WAS IN THE FUCKING MOVIE
It works with both versions, i just used the one that was less subtle.

>>88785322
Why not?

I didn't like Bizzaro.

>>88785274
>obeys only me
>first thing Doomsday did was try to punch Lex before Superman caught the punch

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>>88785322
He didn't, he was carying his body under him while smashing the walls. Superman have anti-gravity aura around him when he perfom things like fly, it is not only protect him, but also other people close to him, that's how he manage to punch out normal people or grab them at high speeds without killing them.

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>>88785377
>Superman have anti-gravity aura around him when he perfom things like fly, it is not only protect him, but also other people close to him, that's how he manage to punch out normal people or grab them at high speeds without killing them.

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God dammit this movie came out in fucking march at this point do you snyderfags think you can change anyone's opinion?Or anti snyder days vice versa,it's been a goddamn year can't we talk about the future of this franchise and not repeat these same fucking threads.At least go to tv for your shitposts

>>88785465

But they don't understand the Kino

they don't understand that Batman's mom is named Martha and Superman's mom is also named Martha

they don't understand that Superman is similar to Jesus

If only they could see how brilliant it is instead of constantly bringing up Jolly Ranchers and pee jars. It's really a great movie and I learned a lot from it

>>88785465
>Hurr a movie can only be discussed for a few months after its release

>>88785274
I honestly can't tell anymore are all the people defending this movie so hard trolls? or do they genuinely think it's good. I mean It's fine if they enjoy it, I enjoy the transformers movies, and the ASM movies, but I don't think they are good

>>88785274
>the Empire of Luthor" which is in the Special Features section of the DVD

oh gee I wonder why people were confused

why the fuck do you need DLC to enjoy the movie?

>>88785274
>Lex thought he was controlling Doomsday
>He didn't know he would go on a bloody rampage
So he's a fucking idiot that unleashed an unstoppable killing machine that would destroy all life on Earth because the thought* he could control it.

BRAVO

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>>88785494
At this point it's not discussion it's just bait for snyderfags and anti snyder fags to duke it our and reinforce there opinions,you don't see this shit for civil war or suicide squad,just this one fucking film,might as well make a BvS general

>>88785643
it's kino that takes kino from a 9/10 to 11/10

>>88785274
Everyone who does not lie this movie must be eaten, raped, killed, then raped again

>>88785657
Not to mention a potentially superfluous killing machine that would have been pointless if Batman killed Superman, which he was going to do had Lex not also kidnapped Superman's mom and just let them fight like it seemed to be setting up initially. It is impossibly contrived how every single thing just happens to actually work in Lex's favor.

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My biggest question is why the fuck was Eisenberg cast for Luthot?

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>>88785677

True capekino:
>Christopher Nolan
>Russo brothers
>Joss Whedon

Pretentious "false" kino:
>Josh Trank
>Zack Snyder
>Sam Raimi

>>88785274
Zack Snyder didn't explain that in the movie and he also didn't write the special features on the DVD, so it's irrelevant.

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>>88785760
>Whedon
>Good
>Raimi
>Bad
>unironically believing in Kino to begin with

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>>88785677

We always knew Lexeinberg was a sperg who comes to all the illogical conclusions like thinking he can control a zombie alien monster because of his blood, and contradicts himself by helping bigger meanie aliens to destroy the big meanie alien that makes him question religion or whatever

What's new?

>>88785822
Looks like yet another superhero movie making the villain crazy as an excuse for lazy writing.

Can't believe Snyderfags believe this shit is any better than the MCU.

>>88785760
>>88785810
I was just trying to see if my you's were back. I missed them

>>88785892
Well, if you needed an outrageous fiction in order to garner replies, you certainly couldn't have found a better one.

>>88785408
he does though

>>88785322
he didnt kill him, Superman flat out says he didnt kill those people in reference to the African Warlord and his men.

>>88785376
Its called hubris, he made the speech before Doomsday attacked him.

>>88785485
>he thinks the movie has jesus allegories

kek

>>88785643
its still the same with the line they used in the movie too

>>88785707
>>88785657
he did the same thing with Bizarro in the comics when he made him, he thought he could control him and he couldnt. Same thing happened to the Kryptonian scientists that made Doomsday too. Same thing happened to Frankenstein.


Hubris is a common flaw in mad scientists. Also read comics.

>>88785752
Cause they wanted to channel the mad scientist Lex seen in Birthright, Golden Age (both of which had orange hair as well), and Gene Hackmen, and now that he is bald he will become bald modern Lex.

>>88785779
The special feature is a different take of the same speech, also he didnt write the movie either, and lastly it still works with the line used in the movie. God, you are just retarded.

>>88785879
>>88785822
see


>>88786224

>>88786243
Alright, I'm wrong. The movie still sucks though.

>>88785879
it worked for both Green Goblin and Dock Ock, but Lex wasnt even crazy, he did the same shit he did in the comics, its called hubris.

>>88786270
>Lex wasnt even crazy
Did you watch the movie?

>>88786224
>he did the same thing with Bizarro in the comics when he made him, he thought he could control him and he couldnt
He DID controlled Bizzaro, you filthy casual.This Lex is just twitchy crying about daddy beating austismo

>>88786285
see
>>88786224

>>88786288
No he fucking didn't

>>88786288
>he doesn't read pre-crisis

kill yourself casual, i know you are referencing fucking b-zero in forever evil but just neck yourself

>>88786314
>>88786324
>we adapt shitty mix of ancient garbage and modern things to movies now
Retards, that's why this movie bombed so hard.

>>88786288
he didnt control bizarro in pre-crisis OR post-crisis, I spotted the new52 casual

>>88786332
hooooly shit, the only time he controls Bizarro is in the New52 you absolute garbage casual

>>88785274

If you need to watch the film equivalent of DLC to understand a plot point, the film is awful.

>>88786309
Okay, Lex is still crazy, what's your point?

>>88786363
its still the same with the line they used in the movie too

>>88786369
no he isnt, not anymore than he is in the comics.

>>88786332
>>88786288
>tfw you are more of a casual than Snyder

>>88786346
>>88786353
>>88786387
That's what I'm talking about you fucking mongs.
>mix of ancient garbage and modern things
Can you read? God thx, you'll never reproduce.

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>>88786387
Well, I probably am but this is why I never thought about producing DC movies.
I would make my own super hero league.

>>88786422
>anything before New52 is ancient

so you want the entire movie verse to be new 52? What the fuck is wrong with you, they are taking the parts of the mythos that work with the story they want to tell, and they built on it like virtually every comic does. All Star Superman did it, Elseworlds do it, Earth One does it, and they do it every time they reboot the universe,

>>88786422
This is pathetic man, stop

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>>88785274

If you have to explain to people why a plot isn't actually dumb, it is in fact dumb.

DVD features? Seriously bro? You're embarrassing yourself.

>>88786460
its still the same with the line they used in the movie

>>88785274
Since we're discussing Doomsday kinda
I'm still butthurt about his LoTR Cave Troll looking ass design.

>>88786460
>I I don't understand something then its dumb to everyone equally

Jesus christ how do people think like this.

What'd ya think of Suicide Squad, OP?

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Bravo Snyder

>>88786479
>implying comics Luthor isnt as well

what sane man spends his life hunting a superhero?

>>88786468

If a DVD extra is required for the average person to understand a plot point within a film, you have failed at storytelling.

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>>88785274
Why is a half-human half-human-looking-alien look like a cave troll?

>>88786439
>anything before pre-crisis
They just should adapt post-crisis universe.
>All Star Superman did it
Well, Morrison UNDERSTAND DC universe. Hack and Goyerd don't. It's simple.
>>88786448
Loving shitty created and spitted on great universe movie with "ticketbait the title" is pathetic.

>>88785485
Anon you're supposed to make the bait subtle, not just dump a whole bucket of chum in the water.

>>88786485
but it isnt, like I said, the scene still works with the line they used in the movie "blood of my blood" (if you could read you would understand when I said it the first time)

>>88786492
Snyder obviously understands more about the character than you, and like its been said, in post-crisis he didn't control bizarro either.

>>88786497
ur retarded if you think that was supposed to be bait

>>88786498

And yet you have to point to the DVD special features to explain the line. Hence, "Batman v Superman" failed at storytelling.

>>88786497
>I don't understand sarcasm, the post

>>88786511
no, OP is just saying that this confirms it even harder and lays it out plainly for those (like yourself) who couldnt understand it the first time in theaters.

>>88786503
>Literally admited that he doesn't understand comic which his movie based on
>H-he knows better than y-you!
You snyderfags, are the most pathetic and delusional human beings on Earth.

>>88786511
>Its another "I don't understand something then its dumb to everyone equally"

jeeeesus

Here is my question to the defenders of "Batman v Superman": Why do you not only defend the film, but act as if it is a masterpiece? Even if the film is "misunderstood", why do you consider a defense of the film so vital that you keep defending it no matter what? What makes this film so "important" that you feel you must convince everyone, even the people who disliked the film, that it is the height of cinema?

Because from where I sit, you cannot even convince /co/ that the film worked, much less convince them that the film is a master class of filmmaking and storytelling.

>>88786527
its not based on Dark Knight Returns you idiot, in fact when Snyder first announced BvS in comic con he flat out said they were not making Dark Knight Returns. They used elements of it, sure, but The Dark Knight Rises used elements from Knightfall and No Man's Land without being "based" on them. The view visuals it DOES borrow from Dark Knight Returns intentionally reverse their meaning/context.

Snyderposting is getting out of hand

>>88786531

You overestimate the intelligence of the average American moviegoer.

>>88786540
Where do you see anyone in this thread trying to convince anyone its a masterpiece? Stop boogiemaning where its not happening.

>>88786540
>Yet another "I don't understand something then its dumb to everyone equally"

>>88786472
I didn't say I don't understand it. I said it was dumb. As in 'poorly thought through and incoherent'. It's not like BvS is a fucking enigma, it's fairly straightforwards.

I don't even know what 'dumb for everyone' means, but I know BvS is a failure as a movie, because to 95% of the audience it made no fucking sense. As an absolute minimum, the film needs to communicate what is going on.

If you enjoyed it, good for you kiddo, but honestly that just makes me feel a little bad for you...

>>88786557

Judging by all of these kinds of threads that I have personally seen, the entire point of people defending the film has been to argue that it is a "misunderstood masterpiece" - "kino", as others might say.

I have not yet seen a defense thread for this film that does not reek of "this is actually a masterpiece" stanning for Snyder.

>>88786577
By the virtue of you saying it was just "explained" with this post, means you didn't understand it before that.

>>88786546
>confirmed for the most pathetic and delusional human being once again
You can read all his retarded interviews, kid. It doesn't change fact. He just liked "COOL" pictures from TDKR and Death of Supes without understanding shit and made this generic pretentious flick for edgykids just like yourself.

>>88786581
like I said, where in this thread do you see that?

>>88786560

If you have nothing but a copypasted reply to argue with, your argument needs work.

Go fuck your body pillow, potato.

>>88786585
>doesn't even know about Lex/Bizarro relationship outside of Forever Evil
>calling out other people who, I just demonstrated, understands a character better than them


How do you live your day to day life? Do you have assistants help you go to the bathroom? Do they feed you and type your messages too?

>If you watch something other than the movie then it makes sense

>>88786588
What am I arguing exactly? You are delusional.

>be Snyder
>be shit director
>get popular by making mass-appeal shit
>hide entry-level themes and symbols behind first year film school cinematography
>critics and devoted audience members see right through this for the shit it is
>doesn't matter, subject matter alone draws in enough of an audience to make a profit
>keep getting work because of this and, mostly, his wife

>>88786597
It makes sense with the line used in the movie too.

>>88786587

In every post that defends this film. They all reek of the kind of blind devotion to Snyder or the DCEU that permeates every other thread like this one.

If you like the film, great. But no amount of arguing about how it is actually a "misunderstood" film will change people's minds. Explaining plot points and relying on DVD special features to do so will not change someone's mind.

Give me a better argument as to why the film is actually good. Prove it using only what it is in the film. If you cannot do so, give up your spirited defense of the film and go do something with your life that will be worth a goddamn.

>>88786601

And you are a fucking potato.

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>>88786604
stop this autism before it consumes you

>>88786540
It's like how those fags on /swco/ pretend the prequels are masterpieces

>>88786618
So you are literally boogiemaning then, since no one here actually is saying that, but you just KNOW they think that.... okay

>>88786596
Don't be so mad, pleb. I explained clearly, that I mean modern versions. But you mongs will defend your hack for the end of your pathetic lives, don't you? Hack don't know shit about Batman, Superman and Lex, and yet, you somehow believes that he know DC universe. Sure, he has read few the most famous comics and thought it would be cool to turn them into shitty edgy adaptation for his retarded fans. I bet you don't understand DC universe just like him, that's all.

>>88786631

I have yet to see people defend both this film or "Man of Steel" and not sincerely believe that both films are "misunderstood masterpieces".

>>88786629

People who defend the Prequel Trilogy as "good movies" do not understand even one iota of the fundamentals of storytelling. They delude themselves with their devotion to Lucas.

It's sad, is what it is.

>>88786639
No where did you ever mention what version, you had to be called out on it, and earlier you claim that only pre-crisis he couldnt control Bizarro.

Your backpedalling is hilarious and sad at the same time.


Also pro-tip: this was very intentionally not meant to be normal Batman, he had gone off the rails in a way that has only ever been portrayed in a few else worlds, he was a villain, and they asked the question: Can Batman come back after he crossed the line he swore he would never cross? And their answer is yes, with the help of Superman.

>>88786660
>this was very intentionally not meant to be normal Batman
>h-he was shit on porpouse!
I got ya, kiddo

>>88786656
The funny thing is they always trash talked them up until TFA came out. They then jumped on the "Lucas is a Godly story teller" bandwagon.

>>88786656
>>88786629
I really liked BvS and think the prequels are shit. I don't even like Snyder's other movies that much. Sucker Punch is bad, Watchmen is pretty good but misses some points, MoS was a solid 7.5/10.

>>88786660

>Can Batman come back after he crossed the line he swore he would never cross?

Considering how he killed a whole hell of a lot of people after he fought Superman, I don't think the film did an adequate job of showing us how Superman helped Batman "come back".

>>88786670
>m-maybe if I change the subject no one will know how casual I am


I'm sorry you've never read an elseworlds or anything before the New 52 and don't understand that there is no one true anything.

>>88786673
>7.5/10
Oh boy this gunna be a good new series of arguements coming up

>>88786583
I'm not gonna lie dude, I don't sit up at night pondering "What does BvS Lex Luthor REALLY want out of Doomsday?"

Because it's a shit film, and it did nothing to make me care about it.

There are complex movies, that have hidden details that are worth thinking about. Take 'The Matrix' for example. The difference is, people walked out of the Matrix smiling, because it was interesting and enjoyable. BVS was ultimately dull and silly.

I mean, I'm not a fascist, I'm not demanding you share my opinion. But I do believe that film sucked. And plenty of DC fans agree with me.

>>88786671
>>88786656
They're not good movies but neither is TFA.

>>88786689

Someone's opinion on a film's quality need not always be an "argument".

>>88786683
He hasnt killed anyone after Superman sacrificed himself. And even in that warehouse scene HE doesn't kill anyone. The only people that die is the guy that jumps on the grenade that HE himself threw in the first place.


Batman arguably kills KGBeast (if Beast just released his trigger and didnt ignite his flame he would have been fine), but it homages that Batman's final canon kill in the comics was KGBeast (before it got retconned a few months later).

>>88786700
Where do you think we are?

>>88786698

TFA's quality has nothing to do with the quality of the Prequel Trilogy.

>>88786703

>HE doesn't kill anyone

...WHAT.

>>88786697
so you don't like a movie you just admitted you did not fully understand? Okay.

>>88786705

/co/. We used to be a good board. I believe we can still be one.

>>88786706
Show me one person Batman directly kills in the warehouse scene m8 (other than the arguable KGBeast).

>>88786685
Well, that's the whole point, you mong. Elseworlds are almost always shit. And we've never had proper adaptation of canon Earth. Why the hell would we need some shitty edgy elseworld where everyone is retarded and angry af?

>>88786720
Too many casuals now because of movies/tv/cartoons/games etc. All communities go to shit when they get too big.

>>88786703
>if Beast just released his trigger and didnt ignite his flame he would have been fine
Nigga, if batman didn't shoot the thing he'd be fine.

>>88786723
>Elseworlds are almost always shit.

ahahahaha

>And we've never had proper adaptation of canon Earth.

No movie is every a proper adaptation of any current continuity. THEY ALL pick and choose elements and most of the time make up their own. Look at Spider-Man which made up the organic web shit.


Your casual is showing really hard man, just stop.

>>88786721

Batman tossed that grenade back at that goon. Intent follows the bullet; Batman could have just tossed the grenade out a window or some shit.

And if KGBeast does not count as a kill, you have a definition of "murder" that would fall in line with that of the average police officer.

>>88786733
read the whole post before responding, arguing with a single isolated part out of context is retarded.

>>88785485
I love you bro

>>88786742
Batman tossed the grenade and they could have run away. Instead the guy decided to jump on it. Stop reaching, and like I said before, Batman doesn't fully complete his arc until Superman sacrifices himself.

>>88786751
>hahah you made the ebin meme bro

>>88786745
I'm arguement a single isolated shitspewingly retarded idea.

>>88785760
Don't hate on Raimi, he did important work.

>>88786754

>Batman doesn't fully complete his arc until Superman sacrifices himself.

So Batman gets a free pass on killing people because Superman's funeral - which takes place at the exact end of the film - turns him back into the "true" Batman, despite the film showing us no evidence of this transformation?

I suppose you believe people didn't die in the Metropolis battle in "Man of Steel" and the beginning of "Batman v Superman" was a shitty retcon, then.

>>88786764

Yeah, and then he made "Spider-Man 3".

>>88786759
>single isolated idea
>literally present three different ideas (granted the last two are somewhat interlocked)
>its arguable KGBeast could have saved his own life
>its an homage to Batman's final canon kill in comics
>Batman doesn't fully change until Superman sacrifices himself since we dont have any confirmation of him changing until he spares Lex and talks about how men can still be good at the funeral.

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>>88786764
>That's a cute outfit. Your fudge-packing, faggot husband make it for you?
I still don't understand how Raimi got away with shit like that.

>>88786777
And Whedon made Age of Ultron.

>>88786781

I don't understand how you think anyone believes that was an actual line in the movie.

>>88786790
Go to bed, sweetie.

>>88786770
What are you talking about the battle of metropolis? Of course people died. And I never said he got a free pass on killing, he was still in somewhat villain mode, Superman proves that he is a man to Batman when Batman sees that he has human emotions, ties, family etc. He proves men can still be good when he is willing to sacrifice himself to kill Doomsday. (Remember Lex's all good v all powerful speech?)

>>88786788

And "Firefly".

>>88786735
>ahahahaha
Name, at least, 5 good elseworlds. Also I bet Snyder doesn't even know about good ones.
>No movie is every a proper adaptation of any current continuity
Marlel managed to turn their boring sjwverse in the proper mix of canon earth and ultimates. I don't see marlel fans bitching about it, because it took only modern elements thats why it doesn't look like shit and stupid.
Also Nolan mixed only modern comics, that's why he's movies are praised literally by everyone.

>>88786799
and his shitty Shakespeare movie he did

I thought Eisenberg was supposed to be Lex's son.

>>88786795

So one line about "men can still be good" is "a completed arc" for a character who, despite being known as a hero who does not kill, kills a whole bunch of people?

>>88786712
The logical converse of that is it's impossible to form an opinion of a film unless it is completely 100% understood. Clearly that is ridiculous.

Look buddy, good story telling is clear about the important points. BvS is not clear about important points. That is demonstrated by the fact that WE ARE DISCUSSING A FUCKING DVD EXTRA.

>>88786805
>Name, at least, 5 good elseworlds.
All Star Superman
Dark Knight Returns
The Killing Joke (which got retconned into continuity but was meant to be non-canon)
Whatever Happened To The Man of Tomorrow
Whatever Happened To The Caped Crusader
Kingdom Come
The Golden Age


Honestly you are soooo casual
>Also Nolan mixed only modern comics

So post-crisis isn't modern then? Also he didn't mix only modern comics, he literally has Batman dispose of a bomb in a bay at the end, which is right out of Adam West Batman movie. And just by the very virtue of it having characters that originated pre-crisis means it has elements from the past (such as the whole retarded idea of dressing up like a bat). Nolan used goddamn fear toxin in his movies, and Batman Begins directly references Batman Year One with the bat swarm signal. If Year One counts as modern, so does post-crisis Lex you mong.

>>88786813
not just the line, but also his refusal to kill Luthor in jail and his idea of creating the Justice League.

>>88786837
No we aren't discussing a dvd extra, we are discussing your enjoyment of the film. Like its already been stated, the DVD extra was just brought up to confirm something that is already clear in the movie.

And all I said was that you admit you didn't fully understand the movie and you don't like it. Thats fine.

>>88786856

>the DVD extra was just brought up to confirm something that is already clear in the movie

If you need to bring up a DVD extra to say "this was already clear", the thing you say was "clear" was not.

>>88786846
>I'll just name few from top-10 to coolgeeks xD
Fucking pleb confirned.

Also, you're fucking retarded. Fear toxin IS element of modern Batman comics. It WAS adaptable enough to be there. Autismo lex and his shitty bizzaroday is not adaptable which we can see from shittiness of BvS.

>>88786871
but he didnt have to, the thread is specifically about "stupid questions" in relation to the movie. So obviously its for stupid people that didn't understand it the first time. If they have to be stupid to make the mistake then it is clear to anyone who isnt stupid.

>>88786553
Should /thread every BvS thread with this

>>88786881

So anyone who does not understand that specific line is "stupid", now? You have done a horrible job of making me want to take your argument seriously.

>>88786878
The idiocy in your post is astounding, first you say there are no good elseworlds but then say the good ones don't count just because? Also no mainstream site fucking recs the Whatever Happened? Stories or Golden Age. I guarantee you've never read them.

I can name more, Gotham by Gaslight, The Doom That Came To Gotham, Red Son, Batman Year 100, Justice Riders, The Nail, the Realworlds series.
And way to not address anything else I brought up except the one element that of course is modern you idiot, but it didn't originate there, it was an element that carried over. Also stringy orange hair lex who overspeaks comes mostly from Birthright (granted it is intentionally homaging the golden age Lex) which IS a modern book you fucking idiot.

>>88786197
Why fly through the wall with the warlord if he's going to be careful not to hurt the guy when he's flying through said wall? If Superman doesn't want to hurt him just don't fly through a wall with him, it's a pointless action anyways. It was confusing.

>>88786895
No, I'm not saying that, I'm saying that was the point of the thread by OP. The dvd extra was only brought up because OP thought that people that don't understand it the first time are stupid. Because your whole argument revolves around "if you have to bring up the DVD extra than its stupid" and OP is basically agreeing with, in that if you need the DVD extra to understand it then you were stupid.

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>>88786758

>>88786754
No I do not believe this you are a troll

>>88786922
For the same reasons Superman ever uses any kind of physical power on any bad guy? To get him away from Lois? To scare him? To get him to submit and stop? To knock the wind out of him? To get him away from other weapons that might be around? Do you demand that every action Superman do be calculated for maximum efficiency?

>>88786920
>MY COMICS ARE COOL REEEEEE
Well, shit taste confirmed once again.
Also
>which IS a modern book you fucking idiot.
As I said TWICE
>mix of ancient garbage and modern things
I'll not waste my time on you anymore. You can't make even proper discussion, your memory is just like golden fish's one.

>>88786937
What don't you believe about it? How do you not believe that Batman completes his arc when Superman dies? Did you watch the movie?

>>88786927

>No, I'm not saying that

In >>88786881 you say: "If they have to be stupid to make the mistake then it is clear to anyone who isnt stupid." Please do not lie to me.

>Because your whole argument revolves around "if you have to bring up the DVD extra than its stupid" and OP is basically agreeing with, in that if you need the DVD extra to understand it then you were stupid.

That is not my argument at all. My argument is that if a plot point requires a DVD extra to explain, the plot point is "stupid", not the audience. Please do not say I have said something I did not, you slanderer.

>>88786944
The element that you were arguing was from the old (Lex) has modern examples is what I was saying you fucking idiot. Also way to ignore all the other comics I posted. You sure are not a casual at all, no siree.

>>88786878
He has a point. You asked for good Elsewords. He gave them to you.

You're just spasming out.

>>88786949
Why did you bring up that quote? did you forget the part where I said
> the thread is specifically about

Hence I am saying that was OP's intent since I did not make the thread. Also, once again, I am saying it does not require the DVD extra to understand the scene, I did not even post the DVD extra to begin with since I think you can understand the scene.


What I AM saying is that OP thinks that if you need the information in the DVD extra to understand it, you are stupid, hence the title being "stupid questions"

>>88786969
I said 5. Only 3 of it were good. And Snyder used 0. So.

>>88786973

>it does not require the DVD extra to understand the scene

Unless, as you said, people are stupid.

If a majority of the people who saw the film did not understand the line, does that make them all stupid?

>>88786978
>Snyder used 0


>but he mentioned The Dark Knight Returns which Snyder does draw from
>and Kingdom Come which Snyder also drew from


Really dude, this is just pathetic at this point.

>>88786939
The wall scene was awkward and still confuses people. Just because I dislike this certain scene doesn't mean I'm demanding maximum efficiency everywhere, come on now.

>>88786981
I dont think that thing about people being stupid, but I assume OP does because he titled it stupid questions. You asked why the DVD extra was brought up and I explained. Even OP says the movie still works fine with the line used in the movie.


And I believe most people did understand that Lex didnt think Doomsday would attack him and was a victim of hubris.
Also your assumption that for something to be good you must understand it is silly, most people don't understand 2001: A Space Odyssey and enjoy it immensely.

>>88786988
Pathetic is having shit taste like yours. TDKR and KC is outdated shit which can be adapted only by people who know and love DC. Snyder only love "cool" pics.

>>88785665
don't you have a PPG thread to dwelve your autism into, cringesire?

>>88785752
because no one else was stupid enough to get bogged down in this mess.

every single actor in this movie, with the exception of BASED JEREMY IRONS (who still was only involved for a fat paycheck), aquaman and flash, were the hammiest of hams, and shitty local theater losers.

there were interesting tidbits they threw in about darkseid, that explain why lex completely went off the deep end, but it was too subtle for normies and non patrician movie goers.

$10 says they could regenerate the kryptonians with tanning beds.

>>88786989
I dont see it confusing people outside of /co/ and reddit desu, no one ive ever talked to in real life has brought up that scene. But regardless, asking why he did something like that is silly when there are a bunch of valid answers and the movie really doesn't need to explain it. Its like asking why did Iron Man shoot this bad guy with a laser instead of punching this one, or why did Cap punch that guy with his fist and that guy with his shield. As long as it has the desired outcome who cares.

>>88785801
>THIS FAG DOESNT UNIRONICALLY BELIEVE IN KINO.

WELL GUESS WHAT? KINO BELIEVES IN YOU FUCKER.

>>88787000

>I dont think that thing about people being stupid

You could have fooled me.

>your assumption that for something to be good you must understand it is silly

A story does not have to explain everything (including the themes within it), but it does have to be at least somewhat comprehensible so that people can follow it.

>>88786197
>>88786922
>AFRICANTS
>PEOPLE
Superman CONFIRMED FOR NAZI

>>88787030
BvS was pretty comprehensible, and every time I brought up people being stupid I prefaced it by saying I was explaining what I believed to be OP's motivations. I'm sorry you can't read.

>>88787049

>BvS was pretty comprehensible

No. No, it was not.

>>88787059
what didnt you understand?

>>88785760
True capekino:
>Tim Burton
Pretentious "false" kino:
>Christopher Nolan
>Sam Raimi
Non-kino:
>Zack Snyder
>Russo brothers
>Joss Whedon
>Josh Trank

>>88787004
Why are you so weirdly full of hate?

I know why it's cos you're alone

>>88785274
>If you watch the special features on the extended special directors cut blu ray edition, you'll see hints the movie wasn't originally inteded to be an irredeemable heaping mountain of shit.

Shame I saw it in theatres like an asshole, so I got to see the "Literal trash" edition. Won't make that mistake again.

>>88785665
>Shitposting General.

I think you may be onto something. Why stop there, let's make an /sp/ board for ShitPosting. MODS!!! This guy has an idea to finally cute 4chin's terminal cancer!

>>88787070
99% of people didn't understand Lex's motivations. That is the problem. You cannot avoid it.

>>88787145

>let's make an /sp/ board for ShitPosting.

We have a board like that. We call it /pol/.

>>88787153

I can believe that Snyder himself lacked that understanding. The script sure as hell lacked it.

>>88787145
>>88787186

We have a board for shitposting. It's called [s4s]

If only people would use it.

>>88787153
>>88787243
idk where you are getting it this from, but what did either of you not understand about the movie?

>>88787277

Explain Lex Luthor's motivations in a single sentence.

This idiots still can't understand Lex character

heh

>>88787324

And you cannot form a coherent sentence.

>>88787333
english is not my native language
kek

>>88787302
he stared out into the darkness, and saw the horrors of the universe were coming to eat/rape/enslave us all.

>>88787361

Okay, and how do you explain the three differing motivations Lex showed in the movie?

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>>88787361
Oh lord

>>88787369
he had already been severely unstable before supes showed up, dating back to his father, and his "abominations", that were done to him.

>>88787376
I know right, when i posted it, i thought, "fuck, its like i had /lit/ write a sentence, and they done fucked it up.".

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What the fuck is wrong with this board?
Wouldn't you WANT to get shown an answer for your often stupid complaints about BvS?

90% of the memes are not flaws, so I fail to see why someone would rather hate something than enjoy it.

Like, what is the fucking issue with "le jar of piss"?
I don't get the issue, never have.
Is it because peepee makes you chuckle wuckle?

Boggles the mind how hard people bandwagon about this movie.

>>88787423
Lex is more like the Joker, and the Joker is apparently Jim Carrey on meth or something.

>>88787423

>Wouldn't you WANT to get shown an answer for your often stupid complaints about BvS?

If the answer requires supplemental material, it is not a satisfying answer.

>>88785274
Lex wasn't submissive naturally, but via coercion and his dad beating him, not because of genetics. So why would he think genetics alone would control Doomsday? He'd have to coerce just like his dad did to him.

Your argument just confirms he's fucking stupid because literally anybody that's seen a five year old throwing a tantrum at the supermarket knows that blood of my blood doesn't actually mean you can control shit.

>>88787440
>If the answer requires supplemental material
But it doesn't.
The movie explains itself.
PLEASE stop just repeating the party line.

>>88787454

>The movie explains itself.

Then why did so many people think the film was confusing and muddled?

Or do you think all those people were too stupid to understand your beloved masterpiece?

>>88787475
>Or do you think all those people were too stupid to understand your beloved masterpiece?
I think that people go into a capeshit movie expecting to not think, yes.
The movie wasn't deep, but unlike, say, Iron Man or Superman, it required that you understand thematic parallels.

I wish Batman was real then he could beat up bad guys

>>88785274
>Luthor thought he would be able to control the beast
Seems like the kind of point you'd want to leave in your theatrical cut if you want people to think your version of Luthor is in anyway sensible.
Also, what was the point of spending so much time trying to manipulate Supes and Bats from the shadows if he was just gonna kidnap Supes' mom and tell him to go kill Bats? Why put himself in harms way? Seems like he could have just kept messing with them and they would have eventually come to blows anyway. The script reads like he just goes "bored now" and drops any subtlety he had.

>>88785274
>Lex thought he was in charge of the situation and that because Doomsday was "blood of his blood" he would never harm anyone other than Sups; He didn't know he would go on a bloody rampage.

Any sort of smart person thinking that because he put his blood inside a creature it now obeys him is retarded as fuck, he literally took no steps to control it other than putting blood in it

>>88786777
No he didn't, fox did.

>>88785465
The future of the franchise is pretty bad.

Nobody gives a fuck about WW and even less will give Cyborg or Aquaman a chance.

>>88786483
Considering Superman has taken over the world in multiple storylines, including one where he kills President Luthor, it honestly wouldn't be far-fetched for Lex to hunt down Supes.

>>88786519
People understood what was going on, it's just even when you know what's going on, it still doesn't make much sense.
>I hate God because daddy beat me
>I hate Superman because he's the closest thing to God I can strike down
>Makes Superman and Batman fight by manipulating them (good thing neither of them use their abilities to detect the set up)
>Creates Doomsday to kill Superman but doesn't create safeguards to actually control him.
>Presumably makes a pact with Darkseid, who is an actual god and one that would subjugate earth if given the chance

So to recap, he hates God, he wants to kill "God," he creates another god that hates everything, and he makes a pact with another god who will kill everyone on the planet.

It just goes every which way and nothing flows into the other. Do we even establish how Lex knows Darkseid in the first place?

>>88786660
>He's meant to be shit, I promise
Okay...

>>88786610
>You need to watch this unrelated DVD extra just to understand an important line said in the film.
>Somehow this isn't bad storytelling
Kys

>>88790493
He explicitly says that he believes God cannot be all good. Superman challenges that belief whereas Darkseid reinforces it. What's so hard to understand about that?

>>88786631
Every defense I see from this movie has it out that everyone who hated either "didn't understand it" or "missed the artistic value created by the symbolism"

>>88790617
Now you're just making shit up.

>>88785752
Because he refused to play Jimmy Olsen. Not even joking.

>>88786847
>"If you kill him, you'll be just like him"
As if I needed another fucking reason to hate this movie.

>>88790650
https://youtu.be/SS3uXgGGPPE

>>88790732
You're really misunderstanding the quote my friend, and calling Superman "all-good" within the context of the DCEU is really pushing it considering he's guilty of much of the same shit as Batman.

Not to mention, if you believe God to be incapable of being all-good and all-powerful, why exactly would you choose to ally yourself with God when your belief is that man is stronger than God?

Also, when did he get in contact with Darkseid in the first place? Are they literally referencing him this early in the DCEU when we haven't even gotten a definitive Justice League movie yet?

It just boggles the mind.