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Should Old Acquaintance be Forgot Edition

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LIES
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Reminder that Aphra wants to fuck Vader
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>>88781839
DECEPTION
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>from a post-EU purge book
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>>88781804
>Should Old Acquaintance be Forgot
Yes. Yes he should.

he's more machine now than man
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>>88781844
in the butt
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Eighth for Mandalwhore.
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>>88781917
Hey now, Gar Saxon is a man of wealth and taste! You take that back.
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>>88781875
Which book?
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>>88781875
Absolutely Everything has been established for months as not being reliable. Pablo doesn't consider it canon; Leland Chee does, but admits it has a lot of stuff there that shouldn't be, like that pic.
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>>88781875
was that from that 1000 things to know about star wars book? I think that got retconned

also I found this image on /k/, is this from the R1 concept art book? I really liked the MC75 but I can't get a decent scan or photo
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>>88781951
This one, but as >>88781960 pointed out, we've known for a while that it has a bunch of shit in it that isn't canon so the book can't really be counted on
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>>88781959
To be fair he did tell them to get out, so it's not their fault
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>>88781974
I was only able to take garbage phone cam pics
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>>88781974

More sexy MC75 pics please.
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>>88781974
>>88782041
Dont tell me the bridge is all the way down at the bottom
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>>88781974
General Raddus survives Rogue One! It's true!

He separates the bridge section (which was staffed with all the Mon Clas) from the ridiculous lower fin tower and then rockets off into space while shouting, "So long, fuckers!' as those guys are getting Vader raped.

Sadly he hyperspace jumped directly into the Max which he was surprised to learn was still canon.
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>>88782073
It is.
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>>88781943
Gar Saxon is eskimo brothers with half the galaxy
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>>88782041
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>>88782094
WHY
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>>88782103
Only because he's pimping himself out to the Empire. That's a sell out, not a whore.
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>>88782110
Because Raddus has balls of steel
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>>88782110
Why not?
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Reminder that there's no canon gays in Star Wars so you buttslut faggos imposing your degenerate fetishes in this thread are literally autistic.
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>>88782168
>he doesn't know
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>>88782110
They built it wrong as a joke.

Raddus: "Ensign Flipper, raise the shields!"
Flipper: "Sir, shields are up! Sir, shields are now at 50% due to having to stretch to cover the bridge."
Raddus: "FUCK YOU! It's not a bridge, it's the Mayoral Palace!"
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>>88781875
Poor Galen.
We should post this on twitter to confuse normies
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>>88782104
>>88782041
>>88781974
I've also got this better res picture where you can actually read some of it, but the guy who originally made it captured too damn much glare
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>>88782041
Now I know why Raddus's ship looked so familiar.
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So I've been playing KOTOR for the first time after hearing all the hubbub, and while it's not a bad game at all (even if it has aged horribly), am I the only one who finds it ironic how people gave TFA shit for being criminally derivative yet KOTOR is also the same? I mean, Taris is Alderaan (with upper Taris also being Coruscant), T3-M4 is R2, HK-47 is a murderous 3PO (and there are more 3PO-like protocol droids in the game too), Zaalbar is Chewbacca, Darth Malak is Darth Vader (bald cyborg Sith Lord), Vandar Tokare is Yoda, the Sith Empire is the Galactic Empire, the Star Forge is the Death Star (McGuffin artifacts the bad guys use), the Jedi get BTFO (not as badly as in before ANH but still). Hell, they've even got a sequence similar to the TIE Fighter attack on the Millennium Falcon as a gameplay feature.

Sheesh. I'm surprised they didn't give Calo Nord green Mandalorian armor, or at least a jetpack.
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>>88782191
>The Emperor approves Krennic's master plan titled Project: A Galen for Every Night of the Week
>Krennic isn't dead to enjoy it

HAHA, and people think only Poggle canon trolled Krennic.
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>>88782168
Moff Mors is a canon lesbian
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>>88782195
Not sure if this is canon anymore, but some seppie ships were designed by the Mon Cal's israscible neighbors the Quarren, who sided with the CIS, hence a similar, but "evil" aesthetic.

>>88782180
According to the Rogue One VD, having a bunch of shit hanging off your ship increases shield coverage in a positive way, I guess sort of like a tent's fabric stretched between struts.
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>>88782267
>>88782178
:^) ok
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>>88782178
Who wants to be the first to tell him that Wendig made Wedge canon gay?
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>>88782168
Nice shitpost.
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>>88782295
but that's wrong, its just a bunch of random nobody characters that wendig invented for the book he'd never get away with doing that to established ones
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>>88781183
>Some people think her capacity with the Force was unrealistic but, well, that can be debated back and forth.

No it fucking can't. The abilities she uses in the force, even in NuCanon, are clearly defined and were before and after TFA and she's the only one allowed to break those rules. Ezra took years to get down Mind Trick and he's explicitly a prodigy. LUKE tried that shit for years and had a string of humiliating failures for his trouble.

The few things she does that aren't explicitly force related could be justified. She closes the door at the exact right second. She flies through passes narrower than the death star 2 run with no copilot outnumbered and never gets hit. She navigates a base she's never been in with less trouble than any OT infiltration. That's fine, you can say the force helped her.

But then she starts waving her hand and suddenly she can instantly push Mind Trick to more extremes than any character has in any context except maybe Palpatine at his absolute strongest in the old EU. Then she grabs the Lightsaber first try -a feat that again even Luke under Disney took like a month of practice and heavy personal loss to even get minimal results on-, beats a thirty year old man who's been doing this from maybe longer than she's even been alive(but his training somehow isn't complete at thirty fucking years old).

Rey doesn't just break the old EU rules. We can accept those are gone and past. She breaks the new rules that were literally designed around supporting a story that's all about HER.
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>>88782301
(you)s aren't a thing anymore but the Sarlacc still feeds off your replies.
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>>88782320
Dude, how did you not know the whole Rebel Alliance was gay? That's why the pilots are called Wedge and Porkins and Biggs. Hell, Luke earned the name Wormie on Tatooine. Even Mark Hamill has admitted as much.
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Remember when we found Jake Lloyd's Steam account?

http://steamcommunity.com/id/jakelloyd
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>>88782372
oh for a minute I thought you were actually sincere in your belief, now I know you're just trolling and not contributing to the conversation by informing that the anti-gay poster was wrong
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>>88782400
>some of them called him "Wormie"
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Luke_Skywalker
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>>88782400
>now I know you're just trolling
It's called a joke, anon. You getting butt flustered over obvious humor isn't helping. Lighten the fuck up.
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>>88782380
You sure that's actually him?
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>>88782488
>>88782523
i meant the "hurrdurr everyone is gay even mark said so" stuff, I thought we were talking about how the guy who said "gays aren't canon" is wrong
I personally hate the idea of gays in star wars but that doesn't stop me from wishing there were futas
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What species do you want to be recanonized? What species should stay noncanon?
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>>88782556
>being this new
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>>88782587
>spoiler
So what you're saying is, you don't want to see your own kind in Star Wars.
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>>88782601
They've been mentioned in newer sourcebooks, but I want them to use the Duloks and Gorax in stuff again.

I love the old Ewoks subfranchise.
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>>88782322
What are you talking about? Ezra had deep issues with the Mind Trick because he had trouble opening up to people. Without that he couldn't even control animals. When he was desperate he was flooded by the Force and summoned a big ass Fyrnock.

So Luke failed? Okay, but we know Luke has massive issues that got in the way of his abilities. Yoda shoved this in his face in ESB.

Nobody needs the Force to close a door, Obi-Wan is just lazy. The main engines of a SSD are fucking huge, easily as big as the parts of the Death Star II Lando flew through, and even if they weren't we've known since TPM that untrained Force Users can benefit from heightened reflexes. Lining up the shot was far more impressive than flying through massive engine given normies have done that. If you absolutely NEED a canon Sue for flying look at Poe, That fucker does impossible every day of the week.

And she didn't wave her hand to do the Mind Trick. Know why? He hadn't loosened her restraints yet. If she manages it once after several tries but never does so again, it seems less like a super power and more a lucky gambit from a desperate woman. Which it was. The fact we know she invaded Kylo Ren's mind as he was actively using a power, and the power transfers knowledge, makes it easier.

As for her combat skills, what the fuck are you on? Kylo Ren was wounded by a bow caster that threw men across rooms, then ran and caught up with them. She's too much for you when she relies on the Force? Finn didn't and even he managed to wound Kylo Ren, something she didn't do before relying on the Force.
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>>88782601
Bothans. To both questions. I'd like to see what they actually look like but I think goat-people belong in the dustbin of eu history, especially when we have Gran.
>>88782620
It's not gay to want to be a futa that fucks girls
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>>88782104
its like a space zeppelin
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>>88782601
I liked Thrawn's assassin race slaves. Are they canon yet?
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>>88782587
Again, it is a joke. An old joke about the names of the Rebel pilots. The Mark aspect is semi-true for Luke only insofar as Hamill, when asked about Luke's sexuality, said he has no problem with people imagining it either way. Kissing his sister made him gay, he's bi, or he was just confused in his feelings when he felt his connection to Leia via the Force (that last one is canon even when he's straight).
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>>88782670
No, and also (you)s just came back?
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>>88782689
Looks like I don't have to delete this anymore
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>>88782646
>As for her combat skills, what the fuck are you on?
She shows an ability to bring the ruckus well before her fight with Ben. Her first meeting with Finn, for instance.

That said she lived on East St. Louis the planet, on her own. You don't live like that and NOT learn how to defend yourself.
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>>88782689
Yes. For now.

>>88782587
Here's Hamill's view on the matter.

http://time.com/4247888/mark-hamill-says-luke-skywalker-could-be-gay/
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>>88782763
there sure were a lot of wildly clickbait articles about a tweet that was just mark avoiding stepping on toes
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>>88782758
She beat up a couple of low level thugs who weren't even trying to defeat her, only steal a droid, and then later tripped up Finn. Which isn't amazing for her, it is merely character consistency for him given he gets TR-8Red and then Kylo'ed.

Really puts his moment shouting, "I'm in charge now, Phasma! I'm in charge!" in a whole other light. He just wanted to feel like a winner for once, dammit!
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>>88782229
Well remember, more people have seen TFA than have ever played KOTOR, so you're going to get a larger quantity of criticisms for the former.
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>>88782800
>AAAAAAA THIS CANT BE HAPPENING IM IN CHARGE HERE
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>>88782601
The Massassi (which are actually canon now), but only if they look like Abominations. Sith Purebloods are so boring looking.
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>>88782798
According to that article it wasn't a tweet, it was something he told The Sun and more about the nature of "fan mail" having changed. People feel more open to reaching out electronically to celebrities, apparently, and opening up their personal lives. You could call it seeking validation or whatever, I don't really care, it is what it is.

I think Mark handled it quite well. He's a real nice guy and isn't about to just tell people what he thinks about the character is the truth and they need to deal.

It's a natural human trait to roleplay your heroes and kids have been pretending to be Luke for a very long time. He's just saying he's fine if they want to believe their hero is like them, too. It's exactly what I'd have expected Mark to say.
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Post What if stories you really want
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>>88782926
And then the planet blows up.
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>>88782926
What if Anakin killed Sheev on Mustafar after killing Obi-Wan, like in that alternate RotS ending? And Padme also survived.
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>>88782926
>Leia
>Strong in the Force.
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>>88782926
What if qui gon had lived to train Anakin
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>>88781959
>royal guards spend their last moments alive shitposting on an anonymous holovid website
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>>88782995
I don't think anything would've changed with Anakin's training. The real change would've been Dooku.
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So who's gonna win the Reybowl? Poe or Finn?
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>>88783047
Sandor.
Get Hype
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>>88782926
I want to write a ROTS Infinities about what if Anakin had helped Mace kill Sheev.

Spoilers: we still get a Galactic Empire. But it's a JEDI Galactic Empire
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Post things you want to see in either Episode 8 or 9.
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>>88782281
>but some seppie ships were designed by the Mon Cal's israscible neighbors the Quarren, who sided with the CIS
The Free Dac volunteers? They're canonized due Tarkin.
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>>88783105
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>>88782926
Did this happen in the Ashoka book?
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>>88782995
Anakin would have become a great Jedi Master. Qui-Gon is the only person Anakin would've listened too. He probably would've stomped out Palpatine's bullshit since Qui-Gon was the real father figure.

Guarantee Qui-Gon would've taken Anakin back to see his mother.
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>>88783105
>Episode 8 starts with a 1 hour long podracing scene in a single continuous shot.
>When the race is over everyone takes off their helmets to reveal that they are all the main characters from past movies
>No explanation is given for this but it sounded amazing in surround sound so nobody complained
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>>88783169
Anakin would have gone back to visit his mom every year and she would still be alive. Nothing bad would have happened.

I'm surprised nobody ever bothered doing many "what if" stories on the prequels, there are like a million small events that could have changed everything very dramatically.
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>>88783110
were they actually called that in the book? I didn't think the name Dac for the planet was ever seriously considered by LSG, it's always been Mon Cala
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>>88782601
The Gree back in canon.

The Yuuzhan Vong stay the fuck gone.
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>>88783170
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>>88783230
>there are like a million small events that could have changed everything very dramatically.
What if Padme was barren?
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>>88782646
The curious thing about Rey's Mind Trick is if she was trying to duplicate via the Force what Kylo Ren did to her, it wasn't so much a real Mind Trick as it was the Dark Side ability Domination. Just like Jedi might gain insights via the Force but don't rip information from minds with the Force. You can insinuate or suggest, trick, but you it relies more on their weak will than exerting your own will to break someone's mind. The Jedi tried a compulsion version on Cad Bane and it was considered very dangerous, allowable only because they were desperate. Yet another Jedi compromise of their beliefs they felt was justified.

But that's only if she's trying to copy what Kylo Ren did. Personally I think it was just the Force. If you watch the scene her first two attempts are halting, uncertain. When he's in front of her her demeanor suddenly. Her breathing slows, her eyes focus, and her voice takes on an almost robotic quality. You can see a change come over her again during her duel with Kylo Ren after he mentions the Force. It's not like she's using any abilities or skills of her own so much as the Force appears to be pretty much controlling her. And that is definitely NOT the way the Force is supposed to work. I'm not saying it breaks canon because the Force can guide actions. I'm saying she cannot rely on the Force always fighting her battles for her and just call herself a Jedi. You cannot just let the Force direct you, you have to learn to direct it.

People think she's too super awesome with the Force when really she's in a very dangerous position. In the last half of her fight with Kylo her technique is shit but she keeps the blade where it needs to be. If you look at her expression, though, she seems to be rocking way too much anger. If she lets the Force control her she's vulnerable to the Dark Side. Look needs to kick some sense into her and be her backpack while she runs.
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>>88783292
then there wouldn't be a story, the entire franchise is predicated on her offspring and her husbands fear of losing her in the process of giving birth to them
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>>88783321
Luke and Leia are adopted
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>>88783248
Those aren't Gree, they're merely ambassadors of the future One True Gree.
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>>88783337
He got his head lopped off, he's not the true Gree!
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>>88783292
He'll have to try elsewhere, then
>Luke and Leia are half-Togruta in the new timeline
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>>88782646
>What are you talking about? Ezra had deep issues with the Mind Trick because he had trouble opening up to people.

Are you claiming, therefore, that Rey of all people is an open and loving individual? Miss "Stop holding my hand!" is that guy?

>As for her combat skills, what the fuck are you on?

He was beating her until he let her take 30 seconds to close her eyes and use the force, then it was one sided in the other direction.
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>>88783231
It's Mon Calamari, Mon Cala and Dac. Just like Moraband was also known as Korriban in the past.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Free_Dac_Volunteers_Engineering_Corps
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>>88783337
Jesus that's almost worse than cheeto trooper
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>>88783101
>what
Go on....
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>>88783354
>>88783383
DELET THIS YODA GET OUT GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>88783376
It is forever Korriban; the slave name of Moraband, a vile marker placed by Jedi to quell their terror and dupe the galaxy, is not to be used!
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Just found Freddie Prinze Jr's twitch.

He's trying to get 40 people in a battlefront game.
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>>88781804
>Then the galaxy goes to hell again in a few decades
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>>88783427
He's a big fan of Star Wars and he likes twitch a lot. Who knew he would be one of the biggest names in the new canon?
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>>88783427
Fuck, and here I am far away from my copy. Tell him to get on SWTOR Shadowlands and join my Juggernaut in an Uprising.
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>>88783030
>Dooku still a master
>Sifo-Dyas still alive
God damn you're right. This is really interesting.
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>>88783411
>>88783376
korriban doesn't exist, its only moraband

I did find the Quarren Free Dac thing in Tarkin, it's on Page 24, but to me all this means is that Quarren are Palestinians.
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>>88783457
Done.
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>>88783354
Yoda is the One True Pepe. That trumps being just a GREEEE, which is a lesser servant of the Pepe. When GREEEE tried to kill Pepe, Pepe turned the tales on GREEEE.
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>>88783460
For that you'd have to have more happen than just Qui-Gon not dying, since his death wasn't that big a factor in his fall. Dooku was already under Sheev's influence and had Sifo-Dyas killed even before Qui-Gon died.

Though I would like to see a universe in Dooku remained with the Jedi.
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>>88783485
Korriban has always existed, fool. No amount of historical revisionist censorship will change this fact.
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>>88783485
>korriban doesn't exist, its only moraband
This is a common misconception but let my help you; It had MANY names in the past. It was known at one point in time as Korriban. The Atlas canonizes this. It's current name is Moraband. like Turkey and Iran have had many names in history.
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>Kelly Marie Tran's character is a First Order spy who has infiltrated the Resistance and is Finn's love interest
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>>88783356
>Are you claiming, therefore, that Rey of all people is an open and loving individual? Miss "Stop holding my hand!" is that guy?

Actually she's the opposite. She WANTS a connection with other people, she's desperate for it. Problem is she wants it from her true family and keeps denying anything new even when it's clearly what she wants. She didn't like Finn grabbing until he saved her, then she grabbed HIM. She wanted to take Han's offer but stopped herself. She made a deep connection with the Force but stopped herself.

If she stops stopping herself, she can indeed make connections. It's quite a different psychological hangup to Ezra.

>He was beating her until he let her take 30 seconds to close her eyes and use the force, then it was one sided in the other direction.

That's more the Force using her rather than her actually using the Force, because nothing in her training or her earlier moves was near adequate against Kylo Ren. Only the Force was able to defeat him.
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>>88783356
I though her suddenly getting a second wind was a reference to vader vs luke, or dooku vs anakin

where the young hero defeats a vastly superior foe by suddenly tapping into the dark side, and catching them off guard with sudden force
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>>88783401
Hey, I want to keep a few surprises. But here's another tease: Anakin and Luke Skywalker versus Mace Windu and Leia Skywalker
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>>88783497
Yoda is a Pepe Master, his Clone Commander is gREE, and his ally is The Kek, a mystical force that surrounds us and binds the memes together.

Yeah, we've definitely gone too dank with this one.
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Well Ezra, it ain't gonna suck itself.
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>>88783101
I've actually thought about the same scenario. Like, the Jedi Order fracturing over what to do if they killed Palpatine before Order 66 but they still knew about the order

>What do you do with a clone army that could turn on you with a heartbeat?
>Do you hand power back to the citizens of the Republic, they just elected a Sith Lord. What if the next chancellor decided to use Order 66?

So on, so on
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>>88784007
Actually, these posts suck perfectly well on their own.
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>>88784030
>>88783101
I doubt the Jedi would continue hostilities with the CIS. Instead, assuming it isn't Anakin assuming power,negotiations would more than likely reopen and a peace between the two sides would probably be reached, since by this time the CIS council no longer has their Head of State, the head of their military, nor a Dark Lord to push them into a war they are losing.

Either the CIS would rejoin the republic, or they would be allowed to exist as a separate State.
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>>88781960
I consider it canon
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>>88784115
>I consider it canon
then it's your headcanon, that doesn't change the fact that nothing in the book can be taken to be canon, at this point, unless it is confirmed by another canon source.
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>>88784104
Yeah the war was basically over when Order 66 happened. The bigger question is, what would you do with a massive organic army in this newfound peace knowing that it would take 3 words from the new chancellor to wipe out your Order?
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>>88784172
Let them go about their business and not tell the new chancellor, who wouldn't have the authority to command the army at this point anyway, about the order.
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>>88784194
I think the chancellor would still command the GAR like the President commands the army, Palpatine's wartime measures were more about term extension and bypassing the senate on some things iirc
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>>88784136
That's some backward ass logic. It was published as a CANON reference book. If it wasn't canon, then it wouldn't have been published.
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What was so different about Poe's X-Wing compared to the normal one in TFA?

Three times faster than the normal one?
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>>88784284
BLAK UNZ GO FASTA
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>>88784284
The black paint apparently jams sensors
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>>88784284
It has some advanced stealth paint that makes it hard to target with sensors. Probably some other stuff in the Visual Dictionary.
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>>88784284
Poe should've been the only one with an X-Wing. Give the other fighters some new ship and just have some quick dialogue noting that Poe's the only one with the X-Wing
>You're going in that old hunk of junk?
>Watch it, this is a classic, they don't make them like this anymore.
The lone X-Wing stands as a tribute to the old movies while the rest of the fleet shows that the galaxy is still moving forward and advancing its technology.
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>>88784284
according to FFG, it sheds target locks when it boosts

my personal interpretation is that it is more agile, and capable of accelerating and decelerating far more abruptly, in order to make tageting more difficult
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>>88784258
The Jedi's whole issue was that the Supreme Chancellor had too much power. You really think they'd leave that position in charge of the entire military with no oversight?

No. Once peace was established the army would be disbanded. Clones that wanted to stick to the jobs they knew would likely be welcomed as security forces and such by many senators and other peoples they'd already worked for. Clones that wanted something else would be welcome to it.

The biggest problem with the Galactic Republic, is that it lacked a strong executive position that could be held in check. The Chancellor was the leader of the Senate, and could decide who could speak when and for how long and so on.

the new Republic after the Empire also didn't learn this lesson, going back to the old ways after fearing what a strong executive could do, rather than seeing the merit in a single leader that can be balanced out by the will of the people they govern.

Anyway, the point is, the army wouldn't exist any more, the Jedi would no longer be working with the clones as they used to, and since the Jedi know about the chip, they would simply remove or deactivate it as has been shown is possible.
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>>88784439
IRL, the 20+ year old F15 will probably end up in service longer than its supposed replacements, the F22 and F35
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>>88784283
It includes so much non-canon material that they just declared it non-canon.
It's not like this is the first time a book, or multiple books, or all books, in a series were declared to no longer be canon.
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>>88784439
Although the war is long over and some people are starting to consider some of it is merely legend, the New Republic banks heavily on the nostalgia of the X-Wing design. This is seen early on in the Leia novel Bloodline where X-Wings with NR pilots are basically being used as part of an air show.

I'm sure they have some new spacefighters/bombs (especially now that JJ is shoved to one side) but the X-Wing was instrumental in the destruction of both Death Stars. Destroying Starkiller will only add to its prestige.
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>>88784556
wait a fuckin' moment, are you's back?
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>>88784556
the T70 is supposed to be a heavily modernized X-wing, so while it looks the same, it greatly outperforms the original x-wing

it probably beat out the E-wing as the replacement for the original x-wing
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>>88784439
This would have been much cooler. And given him more character.
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>>88784620
>>88784439
I'd rather the X-wing at the start being the only one in the movie.

I never liked the look of the X-wing. The splitting wings never made sense to me.
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>>88784439
Did anybody else feel that poet destroying 11 TIE/FO in short succession really unrealistic? I know its star wars but still...
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>>88784569
(you) betcha.

>>88784608
I figure in space it doesn't really matter. After all, we've seen some crazy designs in the past. And STILL nobody is using those fuck awesome Umbara starfighters! So it's not really like, say, the biplanes that won WWI should have still been in use in WWII because they won the first war. Which is a bad argument for many reasons, but perhaps most significantly because the technology had changed to such an extent that the older designs simply weren't as viable.

But no matter how much things have advanced in the galaxy, sublight engines and so on simply haven't changed in any significant way since long before the Clone Wars to necessitate major design overhauls. They can use whatever designs they want and just swap out the insides as long as they can find someone to make compatible parts.

The funny thing to me is imagining if the New Republic tried to make a new starfighter. I imagine the Populists would decry expanded military spending while the Centrists start fighting over which of their worlds should get the contracts which make some of the Populist worlds start shouting that if a new starfighter is going to be built it should be on one of THEIR worlds, and so on and so on.

It feels like in some ways the FO did the Republic a favor by taking out the Senate. Damn shame we'll never get Leia to whip those assholes into shape...
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>>88784735
But he's one hell of a pilot.
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>>88784439
I mean the galaxy hasn't advanced much in 25,000 years, what do you really expect out of only 30?
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>>88784764
>I mean the galaxy hasn't advanced much in 25,000 years
That's not canon
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>>88784735
I was more impressed by his strafing run that somehow ripped down multiple Stormtroopers with greater precision than most ground forces could manage.

Also I will admit it IS pretty crazy how he took out the Starkiller with like 20 rapid fire torpedoes. Imagine what he could have done to a Star Destroyer! Makes Gold Squad's ion bombing run in R1 seem ridiculous in comparison.
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>>88782229
I think KOTOR's appeal is that *playing* through a re-imagined A New Hope is fresher than *watching* a remake of A New Hope.
Different mediums, different experiences, and gamers were also probably pretty excited to just have a fun, complicated Jedi game.

And, for the record I adored TFA, and I'll bluntly admit that it is, in fact, a remake of A New Hope but a pretty decent and enjoyable one for that.
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>>88784743
my guess is that if the x-wing design is ever trumped, they will make a superior x-wing to compete

and this will continue for hundreds of years, until you have the T-1000 X-wing, which is composed of liquid metal, yet still has to lock s-foils
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>>88784556
Now that I think about it given the NR overwhelmingly favored the X-Wing and the FO relied on the familiar form of the TIE Fighters, nostalgia is a very real and incredibly powerful force in-universe.

That's actually pretty damn funny.
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>>88784844
Yes but imagine the awesomeness of S-Foils that can transform into knives and stabbing weapons! Sadly nothing with chemicals or moving parts, but the stabfighter would be Anakin Skywalker's dream come true!
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You guys remember that Dee Bradley Baker did voice work in Jedi Academy as the Reborn and Noghri?
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>>88784878
Who?
And Who?
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>>88783136
Bail never tells Ahsoka about Leia and never even tells her Obi-Wan is alive which is some real bullshit
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>>88782229
KOTOR 2 is way better anyways.
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>>88783105
>>88782926

These things are one, connected.

Anyone else feel a little guilty that, by Carrie's death, the dream of Luke getting his academy back/living (at least) AND Ben Solo being redeemed are likely almost certain?

Honestly, I'd all but given up hope. I was letting myself get convinced that Luke would be next on the chopping block, and Leia would be the connecting factor if they ever did another trilogy because she could be as far an in the background as required while still serving as a link, and that Kylo was going to die either in the dark side or in redemption.

But no way are they going to kill off the last of the big three, especially if it would mean basically a death per film. That would be way too fucking grim for a trilogy. It also seems likely that Leia's 'last' hope and wish will come true, that her son will come back, because again, it's fucking grim if both parents die and the Solo and Skywalker lines end in the same trilogy, and it also sort of serves as karmic punishment as he will never reunite with them in life even if he becomes Ben Solo again.
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>>88783248
>>88783337

Commander Gree named himself after the species Gree, at least in legends. No reason the connection shouldn't carry over to canon. You can have your canonical Gree.
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>>88784888
The Noghri were Thrawn's bodyguard aliens, and the Reborn were basically Dark Jedi with some weird old-EU origin.

Some of their best voice lines from Dee included the Reborns saying "may the force be with you" in a taunting manner.
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>>88784439
Rarely do I think armchair directorial decisions warrant any merit whatsoever.

But you... you did good.
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>>88784891
Would he feel those are his secrets to give? He knows Obi-Wan has an important mission, just as his mission is to protect Leia. Forget whether he thinks Ahsoka loyal enough for such information, or whether he thinks she might or might not crack under torture - is it the kind of burden he sees as anyone's to carry but himself?

I mean it took news of the Death Star to make him agree to bring Obi-Wan out of hiding. Besides, it is possible he later confides in Ahsoka. He does tell Mon Mothma about Obi-Wan, after all. Makes sense given how high up she is in the Alliance command. If she gets captured she already knows enough to fuck up all their plans. What's one more secret? It is also possible Bail did agonize about whether to call Obi-Wan sooner and he relied on Mon Mothma's judgement.

He still didn't tell her about Leia's parentage, though Mon Mothma admits to Leia she suspected - and didn't care.
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>>88784987
But the image here >>88783337 is canonical Gree.
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>>88784965

Money talks, and if Chewie and the Droids were all that were left of the OT crowd, you lose an entire generations interest. My mom, pop, and grandmother (50s, 40s, and 70s) only watch these films for Luke and Han. They skipped Rogue One.

My mom is still pissed that Luke got ten seconds and no lines.

If they kill off Luke now, they wave goodbye to a small but significant portion of money they can reap if they simply give him the Yoda style role he had in the prequels.

They need to keep Kylo, too. Driver carried the actual acting and gravitas among the younger actors, at least compared to Rey, even though Finn was far better than I expected.
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>>88785073
Make no mistake, this was always about passing the torch to a new generation. Disney and Lucasfilm know that CGI replacement tech or not the OT cast have a shelf life that is running out. HAS been running out for awhile now.
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just got caught up on Rebels. Disney is starting to piss me the fuck off with all the No Dash Rendar bullshit.
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>>88785356
They already GAVE you Dash Rendar, what are you talking about?
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>>88785356
I still don't get why people give a fuck about Dash Rendar. He literally appeared in like 2 chapters of a book (out of the hundreds of books in the EU) and 1 shitty video game that nobody played. His character isn't even that interesting, he just plays a stereotypical 'cool guy' 90s character mixed with a random smuggler.
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She is gonna die, isn't she?
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>>88785356
No one cares about pallette swap han solow.
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Why would the Empire abandon perfectly good Acclamators and Venators when they switched from The Republic?
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>>88785499
If it can't permanently kill R2-D2, it's obsolete
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>>88785499
They clearly didn't immediately, however they replaced them with standard ISDs which were bigger and meaner.

Things change, at least under George. The Delta-7 gave way to the ETA-2, the Torrent gave way to the ARC-170. Are you really upset these and the V19 were dumped for the TIEs?
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>>88782110
Maybee it's so that you can have a good view of the battle?
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>>88785499
A. ISDs are superior for the purposes of the empire, and they decided to sell or scrap the old ones, to pay for more ISDs

B. venators are a symbol of the republic and they had to go

C. sheev had a stake in the conpwany that made ISDs, and wanted a plot to profit of the sudden need for ISDs
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>>88785499
They didn't? Most of them were decommissioned and scrapped to make the ISDs, which are far superior
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>>88785519
Look at that rainbow. The Venator was clearly gay, and as that anon said earlier there are no canon gays allowed in Star Wars. Sheev did right.

Joking aside, as I recall one anon put it a long time ago when I lamented the loss of the Venators, those were heroic ships associated with the Republic. Sheev wanted the Empire to have its own style not reliant on feelings of the past, so he went with bigger, badder ships and TIEs.
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>>88784790
So old is it this time?
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>>88785562
Doesn't explain the Victory though. That was in service for at least as long as the Venator.

Also it wouldn't surprise me if a few Acclamators ended up in Rebel hands.
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>>88785554
It is a shame that the Venators are gone. No salvaged or rescued Republic ships added to the Rebel Fleets.

Ha, not unless they do that ancient fleet of lost ships bit like they did in Legends.
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>>88785580
>Doesn't explain the Victory though.
That's because the Victory isn't canon.
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I wish they brought these sexy motherfuckers back.
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>>88785607
Come on, man, Babylon 5 isn't canon.
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>>88785073
>Finn
Finn is so dead, John Boyega is a dickhead in real life and his attitude is ruining things, and JJ Told him that he is getting to fat.
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So, did Red Leader and Gold Leader fight in the Clone Wars? They seem pretty experienced for your run of the mill rebel pilots. Most of which are academy washouts.
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>>88785607
If anything, they should bring back that qt Silri.

Damn, Forces of Corruption was good.
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>>88785658
Zann's entire army was overpowered as fuck.
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>>88785607
That's a nice starfighter you got there.
It would be a shame if something were to happen to it.
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>>88785649
I know Legends had Garven Dreis flying with Anakin during a mission in the Clone Wars. The dialogue he had about knowing Luke's dad was still cut out of the scene even when it was restored in the special edition, so who knows if that's still canon.
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>>88785640
That's okay, JJ isn't canon anymore either. He was demoted to producer just like Dave Filoni.
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>>88785583
There was at least one around at the time of the Battle of Yavin.
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>>88785672
But everyone has a price anon.
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>>88785713
Where did this show up?
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>>88785450
I hope Tarkin executes her
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>>88785731
Darth Vader Issue 9
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>>88785744
She's smarter than her predecessors. She asked them to bring in Thrawn, which means any failures are on his blueberry head. Unless she gets personally involved or the Rebels do something that leads to her death, I cannot imagine the Empire needing to end her.

That said, I can imagine during, say, a Rebel attack on Lothal that she ends up being shot by her own side for the propaganda purposes. "Beloved Governor struck down in heinous terrorist attack! Factory destruction to cost thousands in local jobs!"
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>>88785607
>There will never be a mention of Tyber zhann in the new EU
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>>88785787
>They will never show him taking over the Eclipse and utterly decimating the rebel and imperial fleets.
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>>88784472
>F-15
>Twenty years

40 years actually. First deployed in July of 76.
Let that sink in a bit.


It will probably outlive the F-22, but eventually they'll iron out the kinks of the 35 and it'll be ok enough.


The BUFF and the Hercules will keep flying forever and ever though.
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>>88785764
>Thanoth dies
>Aphra lives on
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>>88785679
>demoted to producer
Producer is the most ill defined role in the world, it could just as easy be a promotion.
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>>88784472
The F-15 first flew in 1972, anon. It's nearly 45 years old.
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>>88785834
damn, I was counting from desert storm

that makes it really old
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>>88785834
>they'll iron out the kinks of the 35
The 35 is too expensive, they will need to uppgrade the f-15 http://thediplomat.com/2015/11/f-35-too-expensive-us-air-force-might-buy-72-new-f-15-or-f-16-fighter-jets/
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>>88785829
>there will never be an episode of Rebels where he uses the Ghost crew for his own ends
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>>88785834
>Hercules

Ahh, the Spooky. None better for when you absolutely need to grind ground forces into beef. That minigun can't be beat.
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>>88785764
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a-are they gonna kill Chewie, guys?
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>>88785846
What's that croc from?
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>>88785856
It's a joke, albeit a very stale one. Some anon (pretty sure it's the same guy who keeps showing up) loves to post that Dave was demoted and Rebels taken away from him.

As for JJ, he's not gone but I think he probably has less say at this point than Dave has over Rebels. At least I haven't seen any indication he's had any major hand in the development of the sequels past TFA.
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>>88785895
>1972-2045
>77 years in service
the X-wing might end up outlasting any of the main characters we have seen, barring ancients like yoda
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>>88785925
Chewie, C3PO, R2D2, and BB-8 are for sure safe in the movies.
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>>88785926
Batman. That is a look of pure disgust after he threw a rock but Bats dodged. Almost got him, though.
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>>88785925
they already did once
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>>88785956
Now now, Luke actually used one of his rarer powers to transform Chewbacca into a true.
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>>88785955
Which Batman series? Or are you just messing with me?
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>>88785730
Except Ezra, he always does it for free.
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>>88785744
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>>88785985
I'm not trying to screw with you, but it isn't the answer since I don't know the answer. I was referencing Batman: The Animated Series which I thought was required /co/ viewing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEdg4glpCkg

Mark Hamill as the Joker and everything.
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>>88786054
Yep, knew about the scene and the show. Just figured there was a new series I didn't know about that referenced it or something.
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>>88781804
so is R2 a jedi or what? nothing can be that fucking lucky
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>>88785895
(Even though it's pure conjecture) that article states that they would still use the -22 and -35, just not in the numbers originally planned.

It makes sense. The -22 and -35 are meant to be first-day aircraft, taking out CnC, air defense, etc, then the bomb trucks can do their thing.
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>>88786094
He has better than a Jedi. He has plot armor and kid appeal.
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>>88786094
>>88786128
He's a Whill.
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>>88782601
The Rakata. And bring them in as some sort of lost empire reborn threat. Would be very interesting to see the Empire or New Republic have to deal with a Force-Sensitive Empire seemingly rising from the dustbin of galactic history.
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>>88786281
Good news! Rakata Prime is still canon.

And that's all we know.
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>>88786293
yay
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>>88786295
Close to Jakku, in the Unknown Regions. Maybe has something to do with the FO...or not.
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>>88782601
>What species do you want to be recanonized?
Blood Carvers are really neat, so I'd absolutely love for them to be canon again.
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>>88786281
I think they're a bit goofy looking for a major antagonist. A bit like if the Mon Calamari were the main villains.
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>>88786177
>>88786128
r2 has to know the force

only on the 6th episode of this clone wars shit and im already down to my last straw this fucking outdated bucket of bolts gets lost in deep fucking space then somehow gets picked up by a scavenging ship then 1v1s a fucking ig86 sentinel and almost escapes before doing a 2nd mission impossible tier escape by cutting into his cell wall and hacking into the ship to send out a rescue signal

this is just one of about 1,000 examples of r2's sith lord level prescience
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>>88786281
Apparently they appeared in the background of the Poe Dameron comic, or so Wookieepedia says.
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>>88786338
Almost anything can be made intense and scary if in the right lighting.
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And then there's THIS asshole!
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>>88786434
Hey man, everybody gets to wear Poe's jacket at least once in their life. That's the rules.
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>>88782601
The sperging /co/ autist.
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>>88786371
far left seems to be it
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>>88786454
It's a cool and probably very comfy jacket.
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>>88782229
What ruins KOTOR for me is that in addition to being OT rehash it's also manages to be a completely formulatic bioware game
>start as a literal who
>starting location is attacked
>you escape with two other people, one of who is a bit closer to you than the other
>turns out you are special
>get inducted into an ancient order dedicated to fight evil
>get sent on a quest around the world to find a set of simiar objects that will reveal how to defeat the villain
>near the end you get captured, a party memeber sacrifices themselves for you to continue
>near the end there's a level in an ancient location
>near the end there's a mandatory twist (tm) that changes everything
>final battle is fought with a bigger battle in background
It's like a double rehash
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>>88786434
He has the helmet of an Imperial stormtrooper, that means he is a TRUE and HONEST stormtrooper who lives by the stormtrooper code and will pass on the ways of the stormtrooper to his children!
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>>88786316
Geonosis is that close to Tatooine?
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I've read every other Star Wars novel so I've finally decided to start Aftermath after putting it off for so long. How was this "writer" allowed to write these books. I'm roughly five pages in and the way it's written is stupid. There are full stops every four words, awful grammar as shown in the picture and not to mention its boring to read. Is it worth to suffer through if I just want to read all the behind the scenes political stuff happening with the Empire and the New Republic?
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>>88786617
Yeah. They point this out in AOTC, that's why Anakin and Padme go to rescue Obi-Wan, since they're in the neighborhood and they figure the Jedi won't be able to get there in time.
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>>88786316
>dantooine
>FELUCIA
>ord mantell
>rattatak
>takodana

/shitnames/ general?
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>>88786628
Yeah, but I didn't think they were practically next to each other.
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>>88786619
This writing made me comatose.
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>>88786619
>Is it worth to suffer through if I just want to read all the behind the scenes political stuff happening with the Empire and the New Republic?
No. You're honestly better off looking up stuff on the Wook and getting truncated summaries of events. The book is an absolute chore to read.

The audiobook helps it, since Wendig's awkward format lends itself well to a radio drama style, but that doesn't stop it from being full of unlikeable characters.
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>>88786619
That was painful to read
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>>88786617
Well yeah Padme says it's less than a parsec away in AOTC

>>88786619
>How was this "writer" allowed to write these books
Bunch of his fans bombarded Lucasfilm with requests to let him write for Star Wars

>Is it worth to suffer through if I just want to read all the behind the scenes political stuff happening with the Empire and the New Republic?
I'd recommend listening to the audiobook. The way he writes the books fit better in audio form.

But yeah, while the books are written very strange, there is important stuff happening
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>>88786593
And then Kylo Ren butchered it. That bastard.
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>>88786637
They're less than a parsec apart according to AOTC, so in astronomical terms that's basically right next to each other.
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>>88786650
>edgy goth fag ruins a perfectly fine and cool jacket

FUCKIN' REEEEEE
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>>88786655
B-but that's like 12 kessel runs away! Han said so!
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>>88786659
>>edgy goth fag ruins a perfectly fine and cool jacket
>FUCKIN' REEEEEE
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>>88786647
I'll give the audiobook a go then anon. Hopefully it won't cause my ears to bleed.
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>>88786666
I'd really like to start shitposting and sperging but you got quads and it just seems out of place.
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>>88786679
Never pick a fight with Sixes. You just cannot win.
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Can someone on /swco/ explain to me how Kylo Ren lost to Rey when he's a knight personally trained by Luke that was skilled enough to butcher the rest of his students? She had never swung a lightsaber before. Luke was terrible the first time he was using a lightsaber. Hell, even after training, Luke still lost his lightsaber fight with the more experienced Dark Vader.

The Force never made anyone else a lightsaber master. How'd she do it?
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>>88786704
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>>88786717
Force did it
Literally
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>>88786717

The power of [spolier]memes[/spoiler] helped her.
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>>88786704
holy fuck this gets me everytime

>>88786666
PRAISE SIXES
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>>88786717
>how Kylo Ren lost to Rey

Kylo was severely injured

Rey trusted in The Force and(since she had previously trained with a staff) had just enough skill to overpower him
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>>88786717
He was wounded, exhausted from fighting Finn, and untrained.
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>>88786741
>holy fuck this gets me everytime
Like Dave he always kills his target.
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>>88782971
Emperor Anakin awkwardly has to pretend he knows what the fuck he is doing while Padme reluctantly keeps the empire together while she works on restoring the Republic, but over time Anakin grows in power and becomes more and more competent at politics and they start to subtly oppose one another while their kids just kinda hang in the background and eat popcorn.
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>>88786749
kek
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>>88786726
Fun (and canon!) fact: Sixes was the father.

Died of a critical will roll failure? Haha, fuck you medical droid. If you only knew the power of Sixes you'd know Padme's womb simply couldn't withstand firepower of that magnitude for long.
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>tfw no scene in rogue one of Sheev dissolving the Imperial Senate
That would have been fun
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>>88786784
Like LITERALLY dissolving them with lightning and throwing senate pods at the survivors while cackling like a madman and then spinning up into the air and drilling out of the Senate roof before a Star Destroyer in orbit levels the building.
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>>88786797
u got sum problems dud
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>>88786797
happy new year /tv/
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>>88786784
I get the feeling all that really happened was Mas Amedda calling sending out a message to all senators that just says "hey don't bother coming in Monday"
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>>88782601
This should become canon again
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>>88786803
Now THIS is phoneposting.

>>88786811
What does /tv/ have to do with anything? I figure he's had to put up with their meddling and whining for twenty years now. That's twenty years after obtaining UNLIMITED POWER and declaring the Empire. I figure he'd find it a pretty cathartic way to work out two decades of frustration and hassle and having to placate the bastards.
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>>88786827
>Dianoga comes to Tatooine
>"hey anyone here heard of a Luke Skywalker? I was gonna rape him but I never got the chance"
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>>88786823
I figure Sheev would at least have a little fun with it. No forewarning, just them showing up to session the next day to find he's changed all the locks except one door around the back is open only he's removed the floor. It leads to a super happy funslide that exits over the drop to Coruscant's lower levels.
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>>88786845
>the dianoga has just been following Luke around for years, hiding in places and hoping to ambush him with surprise tentacle rape
This is now canon
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>>88786872
I think you mean it followed him until it caught up with the students of his new Jedi Order. Luke barely escaped the horrific tentacle frenzy. Ben was more than happy to take credit like it was his idea all along.

Luke has been hiding out in Ireland ever since. He was actually giving Rey the hard eyeball in case it turned out to be a trap.
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>>88786890
And it was- it was hiding in the Falcon. Rey just didn't know that.

Chewie did, but Chewie don't care anymore.
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>>88786943
>one rathtar made it onto the falcon
>before it could get to anyone it ran into the dianoga
>it was never seen again
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Is masturbation canon?
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>>88786803
This is the Emperor we're talking about. Have you even seen him in action? Dude is a maniac on those rare occasions he gets to cut loose.

If that one offends your tender vittles how about just levitating them one by one and chucking at Mas Amedda's horns. Make a jolly little game of it. Sly Moore keeps the score.

I figure that's not the worst either of them have had to do for the Emperor. But just imagine Mas Amedda's reaction when Sheev gets to Orn Free Taa.
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>48 mentions of canon

Autism is a terrible disease indeed.
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>>88786991
Sure. Lucas is on record saying this is the only way the Jedi count maintain their celibacy and not go insane.

Plus if you get a gentle enough Force Grip going you can pretend it's another person.
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>>88784284
Reminds him of his favourite Alton Towers ride.
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>>88786842
what if i told u i typed that message from the coziness of my desktop
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>"fascism is great" aspect of Anakin's personality ISN'T a core part of his character in the films.

it'd an element that he brings up once or twice.
It doesn't need to be more than that because 'lol fascism' isn't why he turns to the dark side.
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>>88787013
>jedi
>celibacy
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>>88787010
>going out of your way to tally how many times canon was mentioned
>butthurt over the results
>worrying about how bad your autism is

It's okay, you can get help. There's treatments with varying degrees of success, you might even be able to live a normal life. You know, normal enough for someone who posts on 4chan.
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I think AP-5 might still be working with the Empire.
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Who is best girl and why is it __SS__?
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>>88787041
You didn't know? The Jedi Order was pretty much the 4chan of Star Wars. Un-virgins aren't allowed, all waifus must remain pure, and Mace Windu will be around each night to check your "fluid levels". Tracks it on a spread sheet and everything. Has really super cold hands, too.
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>>88787001
u need to c a psychiatrist immediately
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>>88787090
Dude, just man up and talk to a counsellor yourself. Some places even offer free mental health services, you don't even need insurance. The one thing none of us can do is get your treatment for you by proxy.
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>>88787026
Wasn't it, though? Sheev's entire hook is that if Anakin doesn't like something happening he can use his new powers to stop it. It's all about control. Control over the galaxy, people, fate, even death itself.

In AOTCs he talks about dictatorships as okay as long as they work when discussing politics with Padme. After his mom dies he stresses how he should be able protect the ones he cares about, and one day he'll have that power. In ROTS Padme may have been the final breaking point for Anakin but he still talks to Obi-Wan about bringing peace and security to his new Empire. He's already well into justifying everything he is doing even if what started him on this road was saving Padme. The novel Lords of the Sith has an early bit about Vader's psychology which shows how even though Padme is gone his earlier feelings on using his power to force events to match his desires is one of the key foundations of his life as Vader.

It is very much a key to his character both as Anakin and especially later as Vader.
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>>88787046
you know ctrl+f is a thing right
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>>88787046
>how does ctrl+f work?
>implying you're not the one butthurt
>implying '''''''canon''''''' matters and is not just a pathetic autistic worry
>implying you don't suck dick for cheerios
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>>88787168
What does ctrl+f have to do with this? Nobody said he counted it one by one. He still looked it up and freaked out at what he saw. If he'd even read the thread he'd see quite a few of the canon mentions are jokes, though I'm not convinced he has the social awareness to recognize the cues.
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>>88787167
saved
You're right of course.
I never think my PT posts through any more for fear that X thing in the PT doesn't end up making sense.

I remember when I liked SW before I was brainwashed into always ASSUMING Lucas fucked up by RLM drones...
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>>88787204
Maybe not the most autistic post today, but definitely up there.
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>>88787208
Do you have any opinions of your own, Anon?
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>>88787222
>anyone on /co/
>having an honest personal non-meme or non-stupid opinion
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>>88787233
luke skywalker is a manlet
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Reminder not to feed the Sarlacc. (you)s are back and it's hungrier than ever.
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>>88787222
I used to.
5 years of daily 4chan rotted my independent thought center.
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>>88787270
Stop making up excuses.
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>>88787270
>tfw you're approaching your tenth year
I can't remember the last time I smiled
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Hi /swco/, just want to thank you guys for making me want to watch the Clone Wars series, so far i finished the movie and the first series and its great!
Anakin is amazing and the OC are actually well made and the stories are great.
Thank you for being so comfy /swco/, please never change
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>>88787287
>Anakin is amazing
they butchered Anakin tho.
Genndywars managed to be faithful to Hayden's character.
Filoni is a hack.
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>>88787287
ye /swco/ is real comfy
you the guy that made the thread a little earlier?
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>>88787287
TCW is shit
Rebels is shit
Stop being a stupid kid.
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>>88787296
frig off crybabby nobody wants to watch ur 2d shitpost of a show

pic related, yoda looks like a rough draft of the pepe meme a decade before it got popular
when has yoda ever made this face
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>>88787296
So are you telling me its going to get even better?

>>88787301

Nope, i asked in another thread in wich order i should watch TCW

>>88787304

I dunno about Rebels but in my opinion TCW is better than most of the PT
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>>88787287
>Thank you for being so comfy /swco/
I would love to live in your world.
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>>88787313
>So are you telling me its going to get even better?
i'm out

see you guys tomorrow
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>>88787296
>>88787313
O wait, are you talking about the 2003 series? I plan to watch it too, its not that long after all
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>>88787304
>>88787304
frig off crybabby nobody wants to read ur nerdy shitpost books ( >>88786619 pic related )
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>>88787312
This being shit does not make the other shit not shit.


>>88787313
It's stupid kiddie shit.
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>>88787327
Holy autism Batman.
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Favorite new trooper type?
I really want a tank trooper for my black series collection but it's not available in my country yet.
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Can someone lose connection to the Force in new canon, or have it removed? Arguing with some faggot over in a /v/ thread and he's defending Kreia and hasn't watched any of the Yoda episodes in TCW.
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>>88787344
>/v/
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>>88787344
I don't know about canon, but according to George Anakin got weaker in the force after losing 40% of his living body mass, so I think you can.
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>>88787332
laughing at this comment made me realize how bad my breath smells right now

ya it does btw
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>>88787338
i gave an extra (you) cos i could sense u were about to have a nervous breakdown not getting enough attention
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>>88787352
No, I mean actually have the Force stripped. His argument is that Kreia could actually somehow stop the Force from touching people and that the Exile touched the Force, not the other way around.

I'm arguing the Force always touches you and even in KOTOR II the Exile was always using the Force.

And well, also, Avellone misunderstood George's Force.
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Really though, I think it's fair to say that since Genndy proved you can be faithful to Anakin's portrayal, that Filoni fucked up.

Genndywars also had a movie accurate Dooku, performance wise.
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>>88787366
*MORE movie accurate Dooku
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>>88787344
No. The Force is in everything and is necessary for life. Remove the Force and you kill the person, or kill the person to remove the Force. When you die the Living Force in your body is sucked through the midi-chlorians into the Cosmic Force, feeding it, just as the Cosmic Force exudes Living Force back through the midi-chlorians.

If you are sensitive enough to the Force you can hear it through the midi-chlorians and gain abilities. These people actually do contain more Living Force energies in their bodies, but that seems to be how they fuel their abilities. While we've seen a person artificially turned into Force User by means of Nightsister witchcraft we have never seen the reverse with someone having powers removed, at least not in a way that wasn't lethal.
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>>88787366
Bait is strong in this one
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>>88787366
Anakin: "I'll miss you, tit cleavage."
Padme: "I'll miss you, chin cleavage."
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>>88787380
Not bait.
Everyone always just deflects when I bring it up.
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>>88787362
There's probably better ways to get (You)s here anon, probably shitting on the PT or Jorge Lucaso would get me more than enough than shitting on a shitty cartoon made for dumb kids.
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>>88787380
It's very early morning. Australia wakes up, realizes it has somehow survived another night despite the drop bear's recent alliance with the spiders, and decides to shitpost.

The thread has become full of it the last hour or so. They're probably just overjoyed to have (you)s back. They won't starve in 2017.
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>>88787410
see
>>88787391

I'm honestly curious why Filoni couldn't be faithful to the films when Genndy was.
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Who's the best PT character? My favorite is Wat Tambor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW4OIHDsWsM
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>>88787444
San Hill > Wat Tambor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFNAce1JwxI
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>>88787429
If you want to form a sincere discussion you first have to explain in some detail why you think it wasn't faithful, then you need to elaborate on why you think it was Dave's fault as opposed to the writers or George from whom most of the ideas were coming anyway and who ultimately approved what was happening in the show.
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>>88787366
>>88787391
I like Anakin in prequels but there is no denial they improve him in TCW
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>>88787471
Yeah, Jake Lloyd was great.
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>>88787312
Is this from the same studio who made Total Drama?
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>>88787366
>>88787429
I don't think the intention was to be faithful fully to Anakin's character in the movies, I think part of TCW's job was fixing Anakin to be more like the OT described him.

Yeah, I guess it's oddly disconnected though, end of TCW Anakin is really nothing like ROTS Anakin.
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>>88787410
>Australia wakes up, realizes it has somehow survived another night
What time do you actually think it is in Australia right now?
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>>88787494
I do most of the shitposting and I'm youropoor
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>>88787459
Okay.
So- let's get a broad box of movie Anakin's personality.
Honorable and loyal, but brash. Somewhat stunted as far as emotional maturity goes- no surprise considering his life circumstances.
Not unintelligent at all, but not quite on top of the ocean waves of life.

Now let's look at TCW Anakin's personality.
Honorable but brash. Not stunted emotionally unless the writers need it for the episode.
Seems like he has more life experience than the man from ROTS.
Just look at the queen cat lady episode.
Anakin is just not behaving right. He's too suave.
He's more "standard action man", confident, manly, mature- again, outside of occasional scenes where the writers remember that he's supposed to be an unstable fuck.

Anakin in the movies is a messed up person who is doing the best he can while stumbling around in the dark.

Anakin is TCW is just far too on top of his life.

As for me blaming Filoni, disregard that. I was using 'Filoni' as 'TCW'.

I think I know what happened to Anakin though.
By this point, George was so raw from the beating he'd gotten from """fans""", that he caved and gave OT babbies their 2D cartoon-tier in complexity character that they had been having wet dreams about since 1977.


>>88787489
>fixing Anakin
He's a shallower character in TCW.
>>88787471
completely wrong
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>>88787494
Why are you expecting Australia to wake up bright and early and sober?
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>>88787519
>He's a shallower character in TCW.
How, mr. shitposter?

And no, Anakin being a likable person and good general is not a reason.
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Is Aphra asian? It's really hard to tell.
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>>88787528
Yes.
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>>88787526
>likable person
Anakin is much more likable and relatable in AOTC than he ever is in TCW.
If you've never felt the way he has about an injustice like what the Tuskens did, than good for you.
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>>88782168
Yes there are, SWTOR was the first to canonized fags (before Disney). IIRC they were segregated to their own planet in an expansion pack. Makeb.

Pic related, "Makeb"—the gay planet
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>>88787528
There's no Asia in a galaxy far far away.
>>
You're a Jedi Knight, and Sidious executed Order 66 an hour ago.

You have 48 hours to either get as far away from Coruscant and go into hiding, or submit yourself to Sidious for inspection (where he will decide you die, or be "reconditioned" into an Inquisitor).

What do you do?
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>>88787541
There's only hell.
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>>88787547
Only Corellian hell.
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>>88787539
Relatable and likable are two very different things. Do I understand Anakin in AOTC during the sand people instance? Yes, but he isn't likable. He was also described as a cunning warrior and going on an idealistic crusade, neither things which describe Anakin.

In TCW he's a cunning warrior, goes on idealistic crusades, and is a competent general and likable person all around, with charisma abounding. This is Darth Vader and how Anakin was described in the OT.
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>>88787546
lightsaber to the the brain
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>>88787546
>implying I wouldn't be a Sith to begin with n shiet
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>>88787546
Take a ship, years worth of supplies, and just float in space between planets meditating far in the Outer Rim. Can't find what they can't sense/ask around about.
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>>88787560
>He was also described as a cunning warrior and going on an idealistic crusade, neither things which describe Anakin.
1. cunning warrior moments abound in the PT so that statement makes me question your inellegence
2. "idealistic crusade" is Ben quoting Owen.
Going off a joining a warrior monk cult that are the self proclaimed peace keepers of the galaxy is going to sound like an idealistic crusade to a Tatooine moisture farmer.

Care to try again?
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>>88787547
I hope we get the see the Devil in Star Wars again. The next anthology should be about him!
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>>88787579
fug
*intelligence
Sheev_ironic.gif
Maybe I should proofread my posts, instead of taking the quick and easy path of spamming the keyboard.
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>>88787562
Suicide is never the answer.

>>88787564
Have fun dueling Vader for his spot as Dark Lord.

>>88787569
The Outer Rim isn't far enough. You'd have to go to Wild Space to get away.
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>>88787519
i personally agree that tcw anakin makes zero sense, he feels alarmingly sane and so on it's infeasible to me that he would ever turn to the dark side in a million years in tcw

but i still like tcw and i don't see what you mean about dooku

and generally i just overlook these things since it could've very well been more accurate without any change to any of the plot
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>>88787519
TCW Anakin isn't more shallow, really (the Anakin in the prequels was hardly deep anyway). He does frequently come across as being entirely at odds with his film depiction, though. Ironically, that makes TCW Anakin closer to Obi-Wan's nostalgic recollection than the character in the movies but it nonetheless doesn't feel fluid.

A lot of things in TCW and Rebels feel off in terms of continuity, though.
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>>88787579
>cunning warrior moments abound in the PT so that statement makes me question your inellegence
Like?
>"idealistic crusade" is Ben quoting Owen.
No, he was saying Owen was afraid Luke would go off on a damn idealistic crusade like his father. Except as you describe it that makes no sense because the Jedi are dead. Plus, he was a kid, he's not consciously going on a crusade.

No need to get antagonistic about it as well, we're all here to have fun.

>>88787592
Does the Empire have enough ships post ROTS to find me? Wouldn't they need a few years?

>>88787611
>he feels alarmingly sane and so on it's infeasible to me that he would ever turn to the dark side in a million years in tcw
He is sane, even in the movies. It's the Jedi and Sith who fail him. Even then, anything to do with Padme sets Anakin off, even in Clone Wars. It makes perfect sense.
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>>88787494
Its currently around 10 pm.

t. Australian survivor, please send help
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>>88787519
TCW Anakin is more mature than Genndywars Anakin because when it starts he's already been a knighted for some time. He's no longer anyone's pupil but his own man with his own command. Genndy Anakin isn't knighted series until chapter 21, which is season 3 of the series. This means TCWs has Anakin far closer to ROTS than AOTCs so looking at him from an AOTCs perspective isn't going to help you much if you really expect him to act just like he did in Episode II. Which frankly was quite transformative for him at the end. He finally got his waifu, he has a new robot hand, and he's going to war. Life for him was going to change very fast and it was going to change him too.

Sure he can be suave or cool. Genndy Anakin was capable of this as well even while enjoying himself in the rain eating bugs and annoying the shit out of Obi-Wan. TCW Anakin's development is perfectly in keeping with who he is at the start of ROTS snarking with Obi-Wan and quipping at Grievous and the growing darkness in him that leads to executing Dooku. By late in the movie we have Anakin under the weight of his losses, uncertain about his pregnant wife, not helped by his visions, and his relationship with the Council at the breaking point. Then he finds out his old mentor and friend was the Sith Lord who engineered the entire war but who swears he can teach Anakin to save his wife. Everything after that point is a broken man trying to justify what he did and drunk on the Dark Side which frankly isn't a stabilizing element at all.

It really seems like you're mostly upset they didn't cast someone exactly like Hayden, or just Hayden himself, but then the performance Matt Lanter gives to Anakin, apparently fully in keeping with what Lucas feels is accurate to his vision, is why TCWs improves on the character. He can actually act and emotionally sell the character, a man who is struggling to be a Jedi, a warrior, a teacher, and a secret husband.
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>>88787546
find r2d2 and skin his ass for that plot armor
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>>88787617
>>cunning warrior moments abound in the PT so that statement makes me question your inellegence
>Like?
Saving Obi-Wan from Dooku in AOTC, taming the Reek, jumping into the Coruscant sky, saving Obi-Wan from death in ROTS, fighting Dooku solo in ROTS etc...


>>"idealistic crusade" is Ben quoting Owen.
>No, he was saying Owen was afraid Luke would go off on a damn idealistic crusade like his father. Except as you describe it that makes no sense because the Jedi are dead. Plus, he was a kid, he's not consciously going on a crusade.

Objectively yes, Obi Wan was quoting Owen.
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>>88787623
Hey man, hang in there. Just a little while longer and you make it to a new year. I mean your seasons will still be reversed along with how your toilets flush and everything on the continent is trying to murder you, but you'll be fine. Probably.
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>>88787625
>is why TCWs improves on the character.
NO
And you didn't and can't explain why.
He's different. But he's sure not better.
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>>88787645
>saving Obi-Wan from death in ROTS, fighting Dooku solo in ROTS
These are all post TCW, so I don't see how he's portrayed badly there.

>Objectively yes, Obi Wan was quoting Owen.
And saying Anakin followed Obi Wan on a crusade, not joining the Jedi. The Clone Wars was the crusade.
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>>88787641
Grievous already tried that. It didn't work.
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>>88787660
>These are all post TCW, so I don't see how he's portrayed badly there.
Goalpost status: moved.

>The Clone Wars was the crusade.
Nope.
The crusade was getting delusions of granduer about shepherding the galaxy as a Jedi.

>I had a dream I was a Jedi. I came back here and freed all the slaves.
This is what Shmi told the family about Anakin around the dinner table before she raped to death.
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>>88787683
>granduer
*grandEUr

*GOT raped to death
I keep hitting send too fast.
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>>88787647
I just...I don't know if I can make it to winter man, summer is just too damn harsh, I may just die in Autumn...

I just hope I can make it, Winter is probably the safest period of time in Australia because just about everything is either in hibernation or dead by then.
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>>88787617
you replied to the wrong person with that last quote

but no he's not entirely sane in the movies, by that i mean between his fascist ideals and his naive convictions about saving everyone around him that dies and so on, he's literally setting himself up for a 180 mental breakdown

that never shows in tcw, he's literally always a christian choir boy making light jokes, respected, no naivety, not brash, literally no hints of becoming vader

meanwhile in aotc the damage bleeds out of his character in every scene
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>>88787717
>that never shows in tcw, he's literally always a christian choir boy making light jokes, respected, no naivety, not brash, literally no hints of becoming vader
>meanwhile in aotc the damage bleeds out of his character in every scene
well put
have a dotted line
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>>88787683
So why would Owen be afraid of Luke doing that? Luke's only said he wanted to be a pilot and leave, and nowhere did he say anything remotely like Anakin did.

Even then you didn't really explain how Anakin in TCW is different than ROTS, which is what matters and why I mentioned it. You only vaguely pointed out he seemed to have too much experience, but Anakin was very wise at points in ROTS.

>>88787717
He hates traitors in TCW, and constantly mentions how much he hates the Separatists. He's also terribly violent, like stabbing the bomb dude through the back and putting down other people violently. His jokes are very close to ROTS and mostly involve banter, he IS respected in ROTS you just don't see him with Clones, is constantly brash and is constantly violent like in the Rush Clovis stuff.

I'm not seeing your argument, he is nowhere close to being a choir boy, he's just very charming.
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>>88787736
Okay, by disredarding the good points made by me and the other guy, I can see that you're not looking for the truth and will just keep digging your heels in.
That's fine, I guess.
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>>88787736
>So why would Owen be afraid of Luke doing that?
Hmm, let's think!
How did that turn out for Luke's father?
Good?
No!
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>>88787750
Okay. Your point falls flat when Obi-Wan mentions the crusades that his father followed him on after specifically mentioning he and Anakin fought in the Clone Wars, so the crusade was very much implied in the OT to be the Clone Wars.

You're not really responding here, but have a nice day.

>>88787758
Luke doesn't want to be a Jedi though.
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>>88787761
>luke doesn't want to be a Jedi

Are you retarded or just didn't watch the movies?
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>>88787761
>Your point falls flat when Obi-Wan mentions the crusades that his father followed him on after specifically mentioning he and Anakin fought in the Clone Wars, so the crusade was very much implied in the OT to be the Clone Wars.
see
>>88787683

And nothing in TCW changes that what Shmi told them is all Owen knew.
He never got any info about Anakin fighting in the clone wars in TCW.
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>>88781804
How does he keep getting away with it?
Is he really a jedi?

btw i think of about 25 starwars-related shitposts a day i really think we deserve our own board
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>>88787770
At that point in ANH, he didn't! He even said he didn't want to after Obi-Wan tried to convince him and only said yes to just going with him after seeing his dead family.

You're really being unnecessarily snappy.

>>88787772
Owen knew Anakin left after seeing his mother buried to fight in the wars, did he not? He even mentioned he needed to save Obi-Wan.

Your post also doesn't prove why the crusade was his young delusions, this didn't exist in the OT, just the Clone Wars.
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>>88787651
>And you didn't and can't explain why.
Not to your satisfaction, clearly, but it is still the answer. Anakin was never a constant, unstable fuckup in the movies. Frankly what you clearly aren't getting is that between Episode II and Episode III there were years that constituted character development, both positive and negative. It is stupid to expect him to be exactly the same as in either movie because he's not IN either movie. It's a transitional period for him.

Not only that, you're clearly confused about what is going on in ATOC. He's an absolute mess around Padme because he can't cope with his own feelings. His training says he should resist them but his heart, well, let's face it, he's not listening to what his heart wants him to do. He's thinking with his dick. And that's the kicker. You're hung up on Anakin when he's thinking with his dick, and believing that is 100% who he is all the time and in all things. Consider when he mouths off at Obi-Wan early in the movie and how shocked Obi-Wan is. That isn't Anakin acting normally. That's Anakin thinking with his dick. Butting into the conversation on Naboo? Thinking with his dick. He wants to impress the girl but feels she's putting him down and treating him like a kid.

Once he actually gets the girl and they have their secret marriage he's not going to be the same wreck. He's going to feel cool and confident and manly because, hey, he got the girl. Anakin the Boy is now Anakin the Man.

For some reason you want Anakin to be an unstable, bumbling fuckup 24/7 but he was never that except during his masterful courtship of Padme Amidala. If he was that fucked up all the time even the Jedi Council would have tried to get him help. Instead of what you see as the writers only having him fuck up when they remember, instead they show that he is actually calm and collected and cool...until someone he loves is threatened and he cracks, revealing his inner darkness, barely under control.
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>>88787775
It would get infested with /tv/ shitposting, /pol/ bitching and /v/ rejects. It would also split us apart between 50 slow as fuck threads.
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>>88787724
Dotted lines aren't canon anymore.
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>>88787784
>I want to learn the ways of The Force and become a Jedi like my father

You fucking mongoloid cretin
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>>88787795
No. need. to. be. a. little. bitch.

Anyways: "I want to come with you to Alderaan. There's nothing for me here now."

Before that quote.
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>>88787784
>Owen knew Anakin left after seeing his mother buried to fight in the wars, did he not?
What war?
There was no war at that point.
All he knows is that Obi is being held by some dudes on a far away world, and the Anakin is involved in a dangerous lifestyle.

>Your post also doesn't prove why the crusade was his young delusions, this didn't exist in the OT, just the Clone Wars
And i'm saying that TCW does nothing to correct that Owen's "error" from the PT.
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>>88787803
So you are intentionally stupid huh? Last dotted lines from me fagtron.
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>>88787784
>>88787806
I forgot to say, he probably doesn't even know that Obi is being held. Anakin never tells the family why he leaves Tatooine in AOTC,
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>>88787761
>begging for former (You)s
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>>88787806
>What war?
>There was no war at that point.
There was a conflict with the Trade Federation, dealing with them and getting Obi-Wan from where ever he's stuck could certainly be a crusade to Owen.

>And i'm saying that TCW does nothing to correct that Owen's "error" from the PT.
Owen already knew Anakin was recklessly going around fighting people from AOTC, and never saw him again. That's all he needs to know not to allow Luke to go. TCW didn't 'need' to correct anything.

>>88787820
Anakin/Padme presumably told one of them or Obi-Wan told him a bit during his time on Tatooine, either way he knew Anakin was leaving to do something stupid.
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>>88787831
Luke doesn't want to be a Jedi though...AT. FUCKING. FIRST.

>Ben Obi-Wan Kenobi: [to Luke] You must learn the ways of the Force, if you're to come with me to Alderaan.
>Luke Skywalker: Alderaan? I'm not going to Alderaan, I've gotta get *home*, it's late, I'm in for it as it is!
>Ben Obi-Wan Kenobi: I need your help, Luke. She needs your help. I'm getting too old for this sort of thing.
>Luke Skywalker: Look, I can't get involved. I've got work to do. It's not that I like the Empire; I hate it, but there's nothing I can do about it right now... It's all such a long way from here.
>Ben Obi-Wan Kenobi: That's your uncle talking.
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>>88787832
You just admitted that the crusade that Owen was talking about wasn't the clone wars.

*mic drop*
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>>88787840
And that homeless cripple didn't want to fuck your mother 9 months before you were born... AT. FUCKING. FIRST.
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>>88787840
You're wrong either way, because Anakin left Tatooine to be a Jedi. Not to fight in a war.
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>>88787842
No, I never said that.

You don't think Owen didn't assume Anakin was involved in a war he was hearing about considering he was a Jedi at the time? And once again, Obi-Wan may very well have told him some things at some point.

I mean, look at these lines:

>Aunt Beru: Luke's just not a farmer, Owen. He has too much of his father in him.
>Uncle Owen: That's what I'm afraid of.

>>88787857
Anakin left Tatooine two times, and once with Owen actively present. Which one do you THINK stuck in Owen's mind.
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>>88787842
>*mic drop*
Also, autism.
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>>88787876
>Obi-Wan may very well have
>and once with Owen actively present. Which one do you THINK stuck in Owen's mind.
All Owen knows about the second time is that R2 rolled up carrying a message from Obi-Wan, and then Anakin left.
Nothing about any war.
And headcanon of Obi Wan chatting with Owen is pic related.
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How retarded and/or autistic does someone have to be to name a character Savage Opress?
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>>88787892
How retarded and/or autistic does someone have to be to name a character Snoke?
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>>88787897
Kind of. All I can think of is
>snoke weed everyday

Not nearly as bad as Savage Opress. Or Elan Sleazabango. Or URoRRuR'R'R.
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>>88787886
Except that the entire galaxy was embroiled in a war, a war Jedi fought in? Right after Anakin left? Are you telling me Owen somehow never heard of the galaxy wide Clone Wars?

Jesus christ, give Owen some credit bud.

>And headcanon of Obi Wan chatting with Owen is pic related.
Not a headcanon, I'm using quotes from Owen as a possibility. Either way, he knows from meeting Anakin that he's headstrong, impatient and wants to leave to do whatever. He never comes back. Owen's probably afraid of the same thing, the crusade could very well just be leaving, or fighting the Empire like the Clone Wars. Either way, it's not Anakin wanting to come back and free the slaves.
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>>88787892
Literally Fierce Persecute.
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>>88787913
we're done here
I keep using the films, you keep going
>you maybe this guy heard this or said this to that guy even though we never see these things??

Fuck right off with that shit.
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>>88787908
>Savage Opress. Or Elan Sleazabang
these are great names

>Elan Sel'Sabagno, also known as Elan Sleazebaggano
legendary
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>>88787908
>Maul mauls people
>Vader invades
>Greedo is greedy
>Princess Leia is someone everyone wants to lay

Star Wars names were always stupid
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>>88787926
You're using your little bitch headcanon of somehow Shmi mentioning Anakin's fucking dream as evidence, you little bitch, so fuck right off.

Of course you run like a little bitch, so I'll just laugh. Instead of having autism, I use fucking context clues and assume characters both hear things and do shit outside of the scenes they appear in.

But keep crying.
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>>88787935
>Vader invades
Vader means father.
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>>88787935
Not this stupid tho.

>>88787922
>Barbarously Subjugate
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>>88787943
Actually VATER means father in German.
And that was a complete coincidence when Lucas named him.
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>>88787944
because hovertanks are better for urban combat, and there wasnt any urban combat in the OT
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>>88787952
It works though. Do we know if Lucas chose Vader as in invade as well?
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>>88787943
That wasn't the original intention.
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>>88787937
>Shmi mentioning Anakin's fucking dream as evidence

What's more direct evidence?
A. Owen, who never met Anakin, but clearly knows about him, has heard Shmi talk about him
-or-
B. Obi and Owen have chats about the past even though Owen clearly wants nothing to do with Ben


THINK McFLY
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>>88787963
Neither are direct evidence, but A. is just as plausible as him hearing about the Clone Wars even without talking to Obi-Wan you fucktard.

I am fucking laughing.
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Reminder that he is canon.
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>>88787944
To be fair that was more of a tankette than anything given that they just used it as an armoured transport. Or perhaps a tank destroyer with how the guns were put on it. More something for ambushes and defense rather than what we see in the OT. Or at least that's what I'd imagine.

Also, why was the commander retarded enough to just keep his head out during that entire engagement until he got shot? He had a perfectly good tank to go into.
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>>88787948
>Vicious Torment
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>>88787972
>hearing about the Clone Wars
Hearing about Anakin in the clone wars?

How is that even close to as likely as hearing his fucking step mother talk about her son?
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>>88787958
>Do we know if Lucas chose Vader as in invade as well?
That seems to be the root. At the time of the original movie Vader and Anakin were conceptually two different characters, so as >>88787952 notes the Vader/vater/pater thing is probably just an odd coincidence.
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>>88787955
What the fuck are you saying? 90% of the fighting during the defeat of the Empire happened on the streets of occupied planets. The films only focus on the big space battles because those were the most exciting concept. But even on Endor where it would make sense to have them, there's no hovertanks.
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>>88787979
>Clone Wars
>Jedi fight in Clone Wars
>Anakin is a Jedi

>How is that even close to as likely as hearing his fucking step mother talk about her son?
About as likely, maybe just as likely, to be honest. You're assuming Shmi SPECIFICALLY mentioned his dream to free the slaves when she's ALREADY FREE instead of just saying 'he was good with robots', 'a sweet boy', etc.
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>>88787977
>why was the commander retarded enough to just keep his head out during that entire engagement until he got shot?
Because he was a stormtrooper, my man.
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>>88787989
The OT

The first 3 movies

There is no urban combat

That is what I said

Learn to read
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>>88782800
Rey fought like a cow until she tapped into the Force. She kept lunging at Ren and he easily fended her off. Even after they both just slapped their lighsabers at each other.
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>>88787994
>About as likely, maybe just as likely, to be honest.
nah
you tried

as for
>You're assuming Shmi SPECIFICALLY mentioned his dream to free the slaves when she's ALREADY FREE instead of just saying 'he was good with robots', 'a sweet boy', etc.
Watto sold her "years ago". Mothers obsess over their sons.
Do le math.
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>>88787998
No urban combat is SEEN but obviously it still happens you mong. The question is why the Empire would completely abandon a reliable mode of troop transport and fire support.
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>>88787995
Fair enough I suppose. Still stupid.

Oh look, (You)s are back. Did some board sperg about the change enough or what?
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>>88788011
So basically you have no argument and are making dumb assumptions instead of just assuming Owen heard about Jedi fighting in the Clone Wars and said "fuck it, I don't want Luke following Obi-Wan, a Jedi, to fight in another goddamn war" and instead want Shmi to somehow have mentioned Anakin's dream to the family and have Owen actually care about this enough to apply it to Luke.

You are just retarded.
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>>88787546
Try to become an Inky, so I can hit on pic related.
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>>88788026
>making dumb assumptions instead of just assuming
oh the irony
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>>88788015
Nigger, what did I just fucking say

I'm not saying it didnt happen, I'm saying it didnt happen IN THE MOVIES, and thats why hover tanks arent IN THE MOVIES

And to your question, hover tanks are actually garbage on anything but flat ground, if you can generate enough lift to negate terrain completely you're just in an aircraft at that point. hover tanks would only be useful in urban areas where being able to turn and strafe is a necessity
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>>88788032
>this randomly specific scenario happened instead of just a reasonable general scenario, T-TRUST ME
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>>88788015
>What are novels, comics and video games

Of course the hover tank is still around in the Empire. Why wouldn't it be?!
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>>88788029
Would a Jedi pretend to go Sith simply to survive and work against the regime from within?

Also was any quarter given to Jedi who surrendered to the emperor? Obviously some would have genuinely preferred becoming sith to dying.
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>>88787944
We seen 2 land battles in OT trilogy later, it is no indication of rest of warfare.
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>>88788044
>a reasonable general scenario
with less evidence to support it from the films, and it indeed is almost contradictory seeing as Owen wants nothing to do with Obi, let alone have chats about the past.
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>>88788047
>becoming a sith
I don't think you understand how the sith work
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>>88788055
You have no evidence to support your theory you fucktard. I actually have Obi-Wan mentioning the Clone Wars in fucking ANH and never mentioning Anakin's dumbass dream. This has nothing to do with Obi chatting with him by the way fucktard, just Owen assuming Anakin fought in the wars with Obi-Wan considering Obi-Wan had his son.

Stay. fucking. retarded.
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>>88788045
Luke's landspeeder is one of the very first examples of hover technology. Jabba's pleasure barge might be another one, but it's unclear if it's hovering or actually flying.

So the tech has been there since the OT, but it wasn't until the prequels that hover tanks became a thing. Now look at Rogue One and Rebels, from tanks they seem to have downsized to APC's and anti-tank only. There's no longer any large scale tanks.

So the question is, why? Why did they bet on AT-AT's and AT-ST's. Especially AT-AT's (and AT-ACT's) didn't preform all that well on Scarif.

I'm guessing two different companies competed to make vehicles for the empire, and the ones making hover vehicles lost out.
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>>88788075
>just Owen assuming Anakin fought in the wars with Obi-Wan
But Owen implies that Anakin left Tatooine go go on an idealistic crusade.
The only idealistic crusade that Owen would know about is Anakin's idealistic dreams.
And Owen calls Obi a "crazy wizard". (the exact line was 'that's wizard's just a crazy old man).
That further implies that the idealistic crusade was becoming a wizard.
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>>88788063
You clearly don't understand how siths work.
There's this thing called the dark side which Jedi routinely fall to, in the process becoming sith.
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>>88788094
>becoming a wizard.
Excuse me, what?
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>>88788088
Its hovering

Tattooine is pretty smooth terrain-wise, easy for hovercraft to navigate quickly
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>>88788094
>But Owen implies that Anakin left Tatooine go go on an idealistic crusade.
Not implies, but yes.
>The only idealistic crusade that Owen would know about is Anakin's idealistic dreams.
No, he knows about the Jedi in the Clone Wars.
>That further implies that the idealistic crusade was becoming a wizard.
No, it's just him calling Obi-Wan a crazy old man. It implies nothing of the sort.

You're really fucking stretching here.
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>>88788110
>No, he knows about the Jedi in the Clone Wars.
You're really fucking stretching here.
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>>88788115
>You're really fucking stretching here.
You're right, why would Owen know about a GALACTIC WAR
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>>88788125
see
>>88787963

You're going in circles and i'm getting bored.
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>>88788099
You don't just become a sith by turning dark just like you don't become a Jedi by holding a lightsaber.
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>>88788047
Pablo said all Inquisitors have their roots in the Jedi Order.

Filoni said something similar in this

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/10/28/star-wars-rebels-dave-filoni-on-the-luminara-twist-in-rise-of-the-old-masters

>"It’s a manageable level of chaos for Palpatine at all times and I think that there would be Jedi that could serve purpose for him."

>"I think it’s true -- that there were some Jedi that were so effected by the Clone War that they would try to barter their life for loyalty to the dark side."
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WHAT HAPPENED? THIS THREAD WAS SO COZY ONLY AN HOUR OR TWO AGO

there was a healthy stream of shitposts and discussion now its just brutal arguments
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>>88788088
>went to see RO yesterday
>during the beach attack three chads on the back row start hollering going "AT-AT FUCK YEAH!"
>neckbeard half turns in his seat going "Actually it's AT-ACT's, All Terrain Armored Cargo Transports, they're completely different".
>half the cinema looks at him
>he turns around again and the chads start laughing

Phew...
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>>88788127
Not even talking about Obi-Wan talking to Owen retard. Your argument makes no sense, WHY would Owen remember something Shmi isn't very likely to have said in the first place? He already KNOWS Anakin is a Jedi when he first meets him, so becoming a Jedi isn't nearly as relevant as Anakin leaving and the galaxy becoming enveloped in a war before Obi dropping back and dropping off a kid and basically saying Anakin died.

Why wouldn't he not want Luke to go off to war?

Jesus christ, stop posting. Please, don't respond to this.
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>>88788128
>you don't become a Jedi by holding a lightsaber
Worked for Rey.
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>>88788155
Not a Jedi yet
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>>88788147
He got off lucky, whenever I do that I get wedgied and locked into the singles shower room
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>>88788149
????
What about the war would be an idealistic crusade compared to Anakin's idealistic dreams?

You think some guy on a rock in the outer rim knows why the war is being fought and for what murky "ideals"?
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>>88786717
Snoke trained him poorly as a joke
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>>88786747
>He was untrained
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>>88785519
This was probably the best explosion out of all the Star Wars movies and tv shows.
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>>88787952
Vader means father in Dutch.
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>>88788165
>What about the war would be an idealistic crusade compared to Anakin's idealistic dreams?
A war would be an actual crusade for one, and Owen worrying about Luke dying like Obi-Wan told them Anakin did makes far more sense than your fucking explanation.

The comics also point out the Obi is killing sand people and shit to protect Luke, so your explanation makes even less sense.
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>>88788165
Also, just fuck off, please.
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>>88787775
The animated series push that theory really hard
I guess they do that as a joke
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>>88788205
see
>>88788165
>You think some guy on a rock in the outer rim knows why the war is being fought and for what murky "ideals"?
It makes MUCH more sense to be talking about the dreams of and IDEALISTIC kid, than some war that it muddled, murky, and definitely not an idealistic crusade.
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>>88788099
This confirms you don't know how the sith work
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>>88788212
>This says nothing about the Clone Wars though.
>you got him killed
This happened after the war was over.

You're terrible at this.
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>>88788231
And you wrap right around, see
>>88788212
and fuck off, because you're wrong.
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>>88788244
see
>>88788242
>>88788242
>This says nothing about the Clone Wars though.
Anakin's death didn't happen during the clone wars.
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>>88788242
>This says nothing about the Clone Wars though.
WHAT THE FUCK WOULD OBI-WAN GET HIM KILLED IN YOU OBSTINATE FUCKING FUCK JESUS CHRIST
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>>88787892
Is Savage Opress his real name or an alias? Because it sounds exactly like the sort of name and edgy dark side user would give themselves to sound tough,
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I have no idea what's going in in this thread. You fags will fight over anything, I swear to god.
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>>88788254
OBI-WAN. LIED.

JESUS. CHRIST. YOU. CANNONT. READ.

You're literally grasping at straws right now.
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>>88788256
>>88788266
Calm down.
1. Nothing on that page implies that Obi told him Anakin died in the clone wars
2. Mustafar happened after the war was over

fucking logic, how does it work?
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>>88787892
Even Krayt's sith have nothing on Savage Opress
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Does anyone have Vader's Rouge One scene on WebM?
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>>88788147
not all heroes wear capes
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>>88787978
>feral overwhelm
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>>88788298
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>>88788314
>Feels Cannothandle
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>>88788314
Well...
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Feral
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Quick /swco/, which character is pic related?
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>>88788327
>General Grievous
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>>88788327
>>88788340

>dubs checkable and his clone duubs checkable
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odJWMxjWQoo
So basically, the RedLetterMedia guys have always been retards?
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>>88788330
My God, these people are retarded. These names are black metal-tier, holy shiet.

>count doofus
Poor Christopher Lee
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>>88788320
Thanks!
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>>88788286
1. When would Anakin have died, hotshot, that Obi-Wan would be willing to tell him? Star Wars 15 proves he didn't tell Owen Anakin turned evil.
2. Owen wouldn't have know that.
Your logic makes no sense here.
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>>88788369
>anon is a fat neckbeard with ''not muh'' grudge on TFA
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>>88788369
Yeah, I just thought seeing as they have such a big following, I expected them to be more professional than they actually are. Especially since they believe themselves that they are more professional than they are.

This video just confirms what I already thought, they're cynical man-children who were "hurt" and had their "childhoods ruined" by George Lucas when he made the Prequels.


Also, offtopic, the (You)s are back? I'm seeing double now because of my CSS code.
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>>88788347
>the RedLetterMedia guys have always been retards?
Are you just now realizing this?

Their "movies" are pathetic, their criticisms are surface level, highly subjective, and usually in direct contradiction of opinions from previous episodes.

Mike is a fat drunk with a "not muh" grudge on the PT.

Also, he likes Independence Day 2 better than the first one.
This man has bad opinions.
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>>88788369
>>88788383
>>88788395


Hmmm
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>>88788347
Holy shit.
They thought a problem with TPM was that there were too many CGI characters, because they can only "connect" with real people. How dense can you be?
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>>88788393
>I expected them to be more professional than they actually are.
Look at their fucking comments section.
Their fans are all drones of the highest order.
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>>88788402
yeah let me explain
The first post had a ton of typos, the second post had no image.
The third one is just right.
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>>88788408
Well yes, but then again so is /swco/.

>>88788342
>horrific trample
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>>88788415
> is just right.
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>>88788415
So... slightly obsessive and autistic I take it?

>>88788416
>bombastic devastate
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>>88788404
So cartoons and shit are unrelateable too?
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>>88788204
Nobody cares about the cowardly Dutch.
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>>88788431
>So... slightly obsessive and autistic I take it?
No?
People on 4chan tend to mentally disregard posts with lots of typos.

Also, images get more people reading your post.
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>>88788435
YOU TAKE THAT BACK YOU FAT FUCK
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>>88782601
Yuuzhan Vong should stay dead and forgotten.
So should the ugly beast from FU2.

But I want Gran back, and all the prequel species. Rakkata should come back too.
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>>88788347
>Lucasfilm is the dark side
>Star Wars is just a very long commercial

I don't get it. How can people give so much credibility to people who hate Star Wars?
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>>88788381
>1. When would Anakin have died, hotshot, that Obi-Wan would be willing to tell him?
Why would you assume that Obi-Wan lied about what happened?
>Star Wars 15 proves he didn't tell Owen Anakin turned evil.
wut

>2. Owen wouldn't have know that.
I'm not saying he would have. I'm saying that since it happened after the war, Obi told him that.

If Obi-Wan didn't tell him that Anakin turned to the dark side, then why is Owen so afraid of Anakin having "too much of his father in him"?
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>>88788450
>Yuuzhan Vong should stay dead and forgotten.
ultimate pleb
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>>88788431
>Extremeprejudice Terminate
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>>88788456
THEY EVEN SAY THEY WOULDN'T EVEN CONSIDER THEMSELVES STAR WARS FANS

Why do people listen to these hacks?
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The fact that anyone would even ATTEMPT to argue against this perfect list makes my blood boil tbqh
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Tell me about Kanja Club.
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>>88788437
>Why would you assume that Obi-Wan lied about what happened?
Well, maybe he didn't. Maybe he thinks Anakin really died, of course.
>wut
Owen says Obi-Wan """got""" Anakin killed, not killed him and that one day Obi-Wan's trouble would get someone hurt. Strange line if Obi-Wan mentioned Anakin turning evil, doofus.

>I'm not saying he would have. I'm saying that since it happened after the war, Obi told him that.
Obi didn't tell him this at all.

>If Obi-Wan didn't tell him that Anakin turned to the dark side, then why is Owen so afraid of Anakin having "too much of his father in him"?
Because he saw him rush off in AOTC to recuse his mother, his mother came back dead, and then Anakin rush off again, never to return, a worry Owen mentions in Star Wars 15, you dumbas
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>>88782926
>What if Qui-gon survived?
>What if the clone army was taken by a third party?
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>>88788481
>7 above anything
>PT rounding out the bottom meme
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>>88788481
Revenge of the Sith is above TFA tho
>>
>>88785640

>JJ judging anyone

I'm no fan of Boyega but...
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>>88788488
>>If Obi-Wan didn't tell him that Anakin turned to the dark side, then why is Owen so afraid of Anakin having "too much of his father in him"?
>Because he saw him rush off in AOTC to recuse his mother, his mother came back dead, and then Anakin rush off again, never to return, a worry Owen mentions in Star Wars 15, you dumbas
fuck off retard
Owen is afraid because he knows Anakin fell to the dark side.
Period.
Case closed.
You know it and I know it.
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>>88788478
Nostalgia for the OT and the PT not being the headcanon they wanted.

I can understand not liking the PT, but it's far from the abomination some people make it out to be these days.
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>>88788509
Okay, dude, I'm convinced. What can I say, your proof convinced me.
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>>88788481
>esb
>disney movies
lmaoing @ ur life
>>
>>88788481
>>88788521
Both are b8, but the second chart is closer to the truth.
>>
>>88788532
They're opinions. There is no "truth" in them.
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>>88783568

>hooking the black guy up with asian girl, but one who isn't too attractive

eww
>>
>>88788585
Disney is extremely racist.
>>
>>88788337
Biggs
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3gf6qyAHOw
>Top 10 Worst Reasons You Liked Rogue One

Is she right?
>>
>>88787528
Space Finnish/Sami, with the tech and IT and all that.
>>
>>88787944
Occupation forces vs strike forces.
>a movie set just before ANH manages to be more original than the one 30 years later
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>>88787528

She is. Same as Baze, Chirrut, Sabine and Sifo-Dyas.
>>
>>88788381
>Here is the child of Anakin. He died in the war.
>Sheev, man.. He should have stayed here.
>>
>>88788467
>I want my tortured space orcs who are not connected to the force
>I want the Mary Sues back
>I want Nar Shaddaa gone
>>
>>88788937
>Nar Shaddaa
Never read the Vong stuff, did they nuke Nar Shaddaa?
>>
>>88788904
Aphra/Sabine 34 when?
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>>88789018
>implying Aphra would hang out with someone like Sabine
Disgusting
Get your cheese doodleed skin shitfu away from my waifu
>>
>>88789018
>Sabine
She doesn't even have a shiny black helmet and breathing mask, what would anyone see in someone that?
>>
Do you think Ahsoka kept in contact with Obi-Wan while he was on Tatooine?
>>
was Anakin in the wrong for trying to set up Obi Wan with the Duchess?
>>
>>88789207
No. He was a good friend.
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>>88789027
your waifu won't stop flirting with Vader. she's damaged goods who is attracted to abusive men
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>>88789160
did she even know he was there?
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>>88789222
>Obi Wan tells Anakin that he's made a grave mistake, and has married the duchess in secret
>"Good news, Master!"
>>
>>88788904
>Asian girl attracted to a cold strong man wearing samurai looking armor

Is this pottery?
>>
was there ever a nigga as real as Commander Cody in the history of the Galaxy?
>>
>>88789285
>Aphra
>attracted to Vader
"no"
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>>88788702
She's wrong
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>>88789242
The Force is a hell of a drug.
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>>88789285
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>>88788702
>Stop Liking What I Don't Like: The Video
>>
if all droids have a distinct personality type, what's the personality of the droid starfighters?
>>
>>88786784
Why the fuck do people say this? That literally happened in A New Hope after the Empire found out Leia (the daughter of a Senator) was in the Rebellion and planning on leaking the Death Star plans on the Senate floor. That's like expecting some scenes showing the Empire's reaction to the Death Star being destroyed when that's literally not supposed to be part of the movie's events.
>>88787944
Because ANH didn't show literally every technology used by the Empire. Or did you think AT-ATs didn't exist and Palpatine didn't become Emperor until Empire.
>>
>>88789426
They feel the need. The need for speed.
>>
>>88789580
sounds pretty chill tbqh
>>
>>88788521
>implying django was bad

What the fuck?
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>>88785925
:'(
>>
How do we know that Rey was meeting with Luke, and not Luuke, or Luuuke, or Bigger Luke?
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>>88789160
>Do you think Ahsoka kept in contact with Obi-Wan while he was on Tatooine?

Of course not. Obi-wan was cut off from everything. He was isolated and was left to rot in obscurity and monotony for nearly 20 years with nothing but the reality of his situation and memories of regrets and years of gallivanting across the stars.

>>88789285
Wakarimasenlol
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>>88789764
would girls still flirt with Vader if they knew that he was beef jerky with a non-functioning cock underneath the armor?
>>
I forgot, does Catalyst explain why they named it the Death Star? Because if not I assume Palpatine himself named it because kybers come from the middle of stars and he was basically recreating a star but built for death.
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>>88789760
Shit son
I think you might be onto something. The huge twist in Episode 8 will not be that anyone is anyone's dad. It will be that Luke was dead all a long, replaced by Luuke!
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>There are people who prefer ROTS-style Anakin to TCW Anakin
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>>88785125

Sure, but they also (if they have any business savvy at all, and it's the fuckin' mouse) know there is no sense disenfranchising several generations of older viewers whose money is still green when they will expire around the same time as Mark.

They will most likely use his as the Yoda. Absent somewhere meditating, until shit really goes down. I can see them using him for this trilogy, and then MAYBE letting him die in the next trilogy. And that's if they don't start filming right after IX and leave it six to ten years or so.
It's not like the guy is ancient.

>>88785640

Source? Because from everything I've heard and seen, he seems to be the nicest and most down to earth of the new cast.
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>>88790037
To be fair distressed/angry PT Anakin is pretty good but everything else about him is weird.
>>
>>88789788
you wouldn't?
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>>88789788
ROBO-DICK
O
B
O
I
D
I
C
K
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>>88790446
>>88790446
>>88790446
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>>88789941
It's not called the death star at all in Catalyst. It's only referred to as the battle station, orbital station or by its fake project name. I can't really remember where it got its name from
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>>88790037
absolutely prefer movie epII&III anakin to tcw. Genndy anakin sucks too.

I don't really like his voice actor either, neither tcw or 2003. His face is also boring and unexpressive because it's a cartoon. That's why they talk a lot more in the cartoons because it's stylistically different. Inspired by 60s thunderbirds.

not a bad show though, if you think of it as a lighter simplified version of a lot of eu ideas in an easy format
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>>88790037
count me in on that one
TCW Anakin is boring as hell.
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