Although it isn't out yet, I'm eagerly anticipating the final issue of Jupiter's Legacy V2. In spirit of that series, I'm going to post all of Volume 1 and the first volume of the sister series Jupiter's Circle.
And we're off...
>>88778390
If you stick around for the entire thread I'll wuv u forever.
In five pages Millar and Quietely establish the foundation for their superhuman universe. An incredible feat for any writer.
Fucking kids.
Totally getting a Captain Amazing vibe from Mystery Men. This is a very good thing.
I'd be really disappointed if the SuperCrooks don't show up in the last issue.
Also, anyone excited for the third and final generation next year?
Jupiter's Requiem
Two pages and Brandon is already a little turd. How/why he ever got the idea in his head that he can help people is beyond me.
Nice to see what goes on in the background of major battles. Also I'm not sure if anyone else picked up on this, but Quietely almost exclusively uses a 2x4 grid for these issues. Interestingly, the grid is never fully taken advantage of as each page generally sticks to the trend of 4-5 panels. (4 wide panels: 3 wide and a 2 split).
This was a deliberate move by the creative team as it quickens the pace of the story by a considerable margin as well as adding a certain cinematic flair to teh story. Another note is that Millar limits himself to 25-30 words per split panel, or 50 words every wide. Also he tries to limit his dialog to comment, response (and counter response if he necessary).
>>88778535
Fuck & Yes
>>88778615
I figure it has to be Hitch or Jock next time around.
Something that sells that it's meant to be the next step.
Resort fight scene in this was the best one in anything this year.
I consider this easily one of Quietely's strongest pages. That said, the entire series is a treat to behold.
>I think Sheldon's hitting you with a car right now, but he shouldn't be more than a few seconds. Just wait here and try not to think about it. I think they just snapped your back-bone.
>Oh god...
Probably one of the few times where "Show, don't tell" would probably create a less powerful scene.
I love that they are holding Blackstar's arms behind his back and wailing on him. Definitely not "heroic".
>>88778795
I love how this is essentially the same trick in SuperCrooks.
Just a good way of showing the familial connection that ties the two series.
I know Walter is a monster, but he does have a point and Sheldon needs to pull his head out of his ass. Not often you can see two characters simultaneously right and wrong.
Been meaning to read this.
>>88778795
I don't think so. The whole point is the horror of what you don't see. That's why he/this is so scary. The series as a whole does great things with the telepathy.
The visceral stuff you get with the mom is more than enough to get the point across.
>Your wish is our humble command.
Shots fired! Also, what would Sheldon have actually done if they decided to tell him to fuck off? I can't tell if he's just "strongly suggesting" a course of behavior or an actual order.
Dropping acid in the Marianas Trench seems fucking terrifying.
>>88778842
Circle makes Sheldon's point of view make so much more sense.
He's really way too scared of becoming a Nieztchian or Randian Ubermensch.
Brain-Wave is just a dick.
>>88778853
But that's exactly the point I was trying to make. Millar wrote this scene with the mentality "Tell, don't show" because the mystery/ambiguity of the beatdown adds so much to an otherwise "plain scene".
In the world of comics what Millar did is generally seen as a no-no because it detracts from the point of comics wherein its a visual medium. In most circumstances writers are told to operate from the other mentality, "Show, don't tell," where a writer should a create a scene that conveyed through the art, rather than dialog present in speech bubbles. In the fight with Blackstar, he did the exact opposite of what he was "supposed to do" with amazing results.
>>88778887
I'd imagine the lightshows from all the fish down there would make it a hell of a trip.
I bet there's some truth in what Brandon is saying but he should be thankful his dad showed up when he did.
You done fucked up, CHloe.
I know Jules is a piece of shit but the pink bear and flowers indicates at least a little bit of sentiment.
For someone without superhuman abilities, Hutch is a tank. Even if he was there for a couple hours, slamming back 8 full pints of even a 4% beer is fucking impressive.
Truly an absolute shit way to die.
How the fuck does that rod work? Clearly it's voice activated but he managed to retrieve it from shark infested waters probably miles away while underwater. I bet he wired a transmitter directly into his vocal cords and a corresponding receiver within the rod. Then again all this is speculation and it could just be a magic rod.
Chloe and Hutch's relationship is one of the best things about this series.
>>88779308
Skyfox modeled it after the original Power Rod.
Probably keyed in telepathically, but works through vocal for ease.
Walter what you doin?
>>88779270
>8 pints is impressive
Can tell you've never been out on the lash m8
>>88779330
The Hutches in general are fucking great.
>No, you agreed Sheldon.
BTFO! Again, I know the Utopian is the hero but his attitude is incorrigible.
>>88779338
I like it.
>>88779394
Dude, I'm a pretty big social drinker and 2 pitchers by yourself within a short amount of time is impressive. No need to try and look cool here.
>Just get in there and do as you're told.
Again, people need to tell Sheldon to fuck off. If he retaliates with force, then you have even more of an excuse to put him down.
>So do something about it.
Walter you stay away from him. Brandon is too stupid to think for himself.
>>88779454
He's meant to be intractable.
It's whyKid Utopianis seen as almost messiah-esque.
He's all that Utopian was, but fully realized.
And the plot thickens.
Good cover.
>>88779485
Weird to think that Hutch and Chloe turned out to be more stellar parents that the Utopian and
>>88779519
Eh, I have to think that the preternatural intellect and whatever else they got going on in their genes did most of the work.
The less strict upbringing probably aided in cultivating it though.
>A ban on all religions, I could hardly sleep my head was so buzzing.
I know this may not be a popular opinion and it's a stupid thing to nitpick, but I'm getting sick of constantly seeing that the world would be a better place without religion.
>>88779519
Dammit I got cut off. Utopian and Lady Liberty. Also can anyone answer if Jules is the child of Brainwave and Skyfox's ex?
>I reuse to make the same mistake with you young man.
How did I miss all of Sheldon's dickishness the first time I read this series? All he does for three issues is bitch, complain, and order his colleagues around like they're his fucking lapdogs. It's no wonder that everyone hates him. Even I hate him.
>>88779744
>Also can anyone answer if Jules is the child of Brainwave and Skyfox's ex?
Unconfirmed, but likely.
He's known as Brainwave's son and all.
Meanwhile, Johnny Bolt's girlfriend is his illegitimate daughter and I guess no one really sees her as part of the family, if she's claimed.
If there's one thing Millar does well, it's ramp things up from 0-60 in the span of one panel. He may not write the most flowery of fight scenes, but they display the full might of superpowers pushed to their limits and used in ways not necessarily intended. When powers do enter the picture, they are fast, mean, and impactful which isn't something you get to see in most cape comics.
Using an asteroid loaded with explosives to "soften" the Utopian up just emphasizes how powerful he is and probably why all the other heroes fell in line.
The heroes don't waste any time and proceed to start laying down the smack before he's even hit the earth.
Oh god no.
>>88779866
This cunt can't die fast enough.I wish sombody'd hurry up with that.
>>88779744
The world might be a better place without religion, but it sure as fuck wouldn't be a better place with a BAN on religion. You can't force people to abandon a faith. You can't even force people to abandon drugs for god's sake.
She didn't deserve this.
>Aneurysm.
Why he didn't do that before I have no idea. Probably because Walter is a twisted fuck.
>>88779968
>You can't even force people to abandon drugs for god's sake.
Damn skippy they can't. I'm taking a bong rip right now.
HUTCH TO THE MUTHA FUCKING RESCUE!!!!
>>88779820
>that guy hanging upside down
>TWO people dual-wielding katanas
You just know they're laughed at by all the other people.
>Those feet off to the side in the bottom panel.
>Christ! Is he okay?
>He's fine!
I'm dying. Also does anyone else think Hutch's teleporation rod has one of the best representations in comic media? It's not overly flash or drawn in, with most jumps happening within a single panel or two.
>>88779804
>Johnny Bolt's girlfriend is his illegitimate daughter
I feel like this is something that can definitely be pieced together, but is there any hard evidence in Supercrooks or Legacy/Circle?
Something I didn't really notice till now, but the Utopian was getting his ass handed to him before Brandon showed up. It doesn't really look like the other heroes need his help to finish the job. So I see one of two possibilities.
1. Even with all those heroes wailing on him and having survived MULTIPLE nukes to the face, the Utopian was still recovering at an extraordinary rate and in spite of those injuries he would have quickly overpowered them and assured his victory, which is why Brainwave enlisted the help of Brandon, to prevent that from happening.
2. Brainwave was completely aware that enlisting the help of Brandon wouldn't be necessary, but decides that having Brandon be the one to actually do it is actually beneficial in a sense. First, he convinced one of his kids to do it which has to be an ego boost. Second, he can always state that Brandon was ultimately the one to do it and maintain his "innocence" if things start to turn sour for him. And thirdly, and this is the one that think, having Brandon kill Sheldon cements Brandon's relationship to Walter. Brandon literally killed for him and if there's one thing I know that builds an attachment to him.
>>88780074
Just something Millar flat out said.
There's no hard evidence other than both of them being really powerful mind manipulators.
And the end of SuperCrooks has her put together her own "mind painting"
The series went on an extremely long hiatus after the third issue before returning. While that pissed off a lot of people, it gave me time to revisit these first three issues and scan them over and I've come to a conclusion. Millar managed to create his own universe complete with fully realized characters and history. He and Quietely managed to do more world building and characterization in 3 issues than many series ever manage to achieve with 4 times the issues. And he also managed to do this with significantly less dialog due to the self-imposed panel restrictions. Fucking insane.
>>88780082
I saw it as them not being able to kill him. It took the whole group to keep him down, but only his kid actually had the power to finish him off. Sooner or later the group would tire of beating him up and he'd be able to escape. If he was really about to be killed by the group then he really shouldn't have been so coherent at the end. He went down perfectly explaining what Walter was actually doing.
As an aside, the only thing I really didn't like about this is how everyone seems to be on-board with killing them so callously. Especially with how they act like they're all family. A Civil War-type thing just seems more reasonable than every second-generation hero and onward being asshole murderers just because they've got a domineering uncle.
I'm glad we revisited the island, but I don't know how I feel about their powers being bestowed upon them by aliens. I almost would have preferred them keep it ambiguious or explain that these creatures aren't really aliens, it's just a form that can be easily accepted by them.
>>88780204
I completely agree, but I think Millar had pretty strongly hinted that this attitude towards Walter was building for a number of years, and they had finally just grown sick of it. And I don't think all the heroes united against him, just the ones that felt like they were under his boot, which is probably the more powerful ones because they would be on the front line with him, thus receive the most amount of domineering from the Utopian.
>>88780269
They're very likely Monitors of some sort, seeing as they popped up on Earth-1
Totally getting an Authority vibe from this page and I love it.
>>88780289
Earth 1 in Millar's universe or DC universe? I need to know more.
>>88780289
Is Earth-1 the Kick Ass earth?
>>88780316
>>88780319
Earth-1 is the Kick-Ass Earth
I had a chart, but it's basically
Earth 1: Jupiter's Circle - Wanted - Kick-Ass - Nemesis etc
Earth 2: Jupiter's Circle - SuperCrooks - Jupiter's Legacy etc
>>88780360
Well, you can't win 'em all, Mr. Butler. Thanks for trying. I hope you have more luck with all the other kids!
Hutch is hysterical.
Chloe is a literal pencil pusher. Some might consider this too on the nose but I think it's perfect.
>>88780319
Alright, for the MillarVerse we have
Kickass
Chosen
Nemesis
Supercrooks
Superior
Jupiter Circle/Legacy
Chrononauts
Huck
MPH
Secret Service
Starlight
Wanted
Would anyone be willing to highlight which of the Millar universes are connected with one another? I was under the impression it was...
Universe 1. Wanted, Superior, & Kick Ass were all in the same universe.
Universe 2. Jupiter's Circle/Legacy and Supercrooks was in their own.
I know Nemesis is connected to one of them, I just don't know.
>>88780353
Its Jupiter's Legacy part of both universe? And if you can find that chart it would be awesome.
>>88780377
It feels good to know those pricks didn't bring about a golden age when they took over.
Though it does suck they fucked the rest of planet
>>88780393
>>88780413
>>88780425
I've just noticed that Quietely is staring to incorporate another layout into his work (2x3 grid). I don't know how I feel about it. Seeing a maximum of only 6 panels feels weird to me lol. I prefer 2x4, 3x3, and 4x4 because they all present more options.
>>88780473
Alright Jupiter's Circle is in both of them, but not Legacy.
Here's what we got:
Earth 1: Jupiter's Circle - Wanted - Kick Ass - Nemesis - The Secret Service - MPH - Superior - Starlight - Chrononauts - Huck - Empress - American Jesus
Earth 2: Jupiter's Circle - SuperCrooks - Jupiter's Legacy
>>88780474
True dat.
>>88780527
So universe 1 is the universe where the villains won and they tried to recreate a "normal" world that gradually starts reverting back to it's fantastic self. Universe 2 is what would have happened when the superheros "beat the bad guy" and were left with each other, which resulted in Jupiter's LEgacy. If I'm understanding that right than Millar made a ballin multiverse.
I know it's kinda plain but I love this guys design.
>>88780583
Yeah pretty much.
Millar described Kick-Ass as pretty much kickstarting Earth 1's immune system again.
>>88780527
I didn't realize Huck,Empress, and starlight were all in the same universe
>>88780641
Yeah Millar is actually planning a Crossover this year with Empress Huck and Chrononauts
>>88780598
That is absolutely incredible. I know it's pretty popular to hate Millar but if this is something he genuinely plotted out then I consider him one of my top writers.
>He's already in my top 10 for Ultimates Vol.1-2 and Marvel Knights Spider-Man. Everything else is just icing.
>>88780804
Ehhh I wouldn't say he "genuinely" plotted it out.
I think it was a neat idea that he came up with mainly because nothing contradicted it.
What follows in an amazing sequence.
And now I have a giant fetish.
>>88780843
The fact that his stories don't really contradict is still pretty cool. When he realized that his stories could be connected I bet he made a little victory jig.
>>88778399
That fucking neck.
Jupiter's Legacy may not win awards for it's plot, but you can't help but smile at all these little moments Millar sprinkled throughout.
>>88780833
Fucking ace interrogation.
Best...classmates...every
>>88781012
Circle is definitely more plot-y.
>Mommy hears everything.
Chloe is just getting more and more awesome.
>>88781070
I feel ya.
Hutch manages to pull things off with his teleportation rod that I previously thought impossible.
>>88781106
>>88781127
>>88781138
Quitely is so good. The next issue is even better for me though.
>>88781106
>punching through a cube of glass
Okay, now to me, that definitely feels like a callback. >>88778971
Chloe is a fucking monster. Makes you wonder how wonder she would have lasted against the Utopian.
>When did superheroes ever care about the odds?
Stellar way to end part 1.
As I mentioned, I'm not going to post ALL the extra pages but if you want them I've provided the link.
https://userscloud.com/x2f57rwng65u/Jupiter's_Legacy_Vol._01_(2015)_(digital_TPB)_(Minutemen-Entombed).cbr
>>88778486
so in this universe all the villains are also decendant of the orginal islanĀ“s crew?
>>88781079
>>88781089
best sequence
Final pages. Now I'm gonna start the first volume of Jupiter's Circle.
I'm already enthralled and Millar managed to do it in 2 pages and less than 50 words.
Blue Bolt you bro.
>Tyrone Power
Isn't he the individual that starred in The Mark of Zorro? The movie that Bruce loved as a kid?
Almost wished Blue Bolt responded with, "Risk Assessment Consultant" or "Accountant".
I'd read a series just about Sheldon and George broing it up throughout the 50s and 60s
>>88781334
That's an interesting point that I'm not sure is really addressed. I guess that once they came back from island, the world irreversibly changed to accommodate these heroes and started to create threats where prevously there were none (like throwing aliens and otherworldy threats their way). Some probably did come from the original six, but because of the sizable population of super heroes its unlikely they all originated from them.
>>88780119
I don't think it's that impressive. He did it at the expense of character development. You could sum up as much as we've been shown in a single page if you devoted even less time to establishing the players and their motivations. It's just not the way most people choose to write.
>>88781341
Circle 2 has some even better ones IMO. Issue 2 is nuts from Quitely.
>>88780282
What kid talks like this?
>>88781742
I don't think he forsake ALL character development. He decided he'd rather start with fully realized people that already had an established history rather than have the characters go through any sort of "development" throughout this series. Character development is great when it works, but you COULD potentially botch it which makes either you or the character look pretentious. Also establishing character moments tend to rather "expensive" in terms of panel count which is why they tend to be used sparingly.
An experienced writer could operate within these limitations in mind and have character moments revealed through minor interactions with the environment or using cues in the background but I don't feel like Millar is quite there yet. I agree that's not the way most people choose to write but I feel that in the case of Jupiter's Legacy it works quite well. Jupiter's Circle is when he starts operating from the opposing approach.
>>88781874
An extremely intelligent one capable of building a superhuman detector with a wild curiosity about the golden age and a penchant for the superheroics. So nobody remotely realistic in our world but perfectly fine in their universe. This mentality helps me suspend my disbelief a little more when reading comics.
J Edgar Hoover is a dick.
>>88781680
>trick means the guy buying a prostitute, not the prostitute
Well shit, I wasn't expecting to learn a new thing about English from this comic. Thanks for teaching me something new about prostitution, Millar.
The next upcoming pages just make me want a Superman series by Millar that much more.
>>88782002
I didn't know that either. I think it was just a slang term but I never developed a concrete definition for it.
Also, I know that nobody here probably cares but my tripcode was StoryBro and I had been posting stortyimes for a couple weeks. I had this massive Superman epic planned out and I managed to get through Millar's run but then I stopped. I had actually come down with the flu while I punching in my final grades and had to be hospitalized. So totally sorry about that lol. I'll see if I can track down the order I planned on posting. I think it was going to be Johns.
Blue Bolt needs to let off some steam.
>>88781874
A superkid.
>>88780204
We see the super prisons have quite a few folks in them. I'm guessing that at the same time or a bit before this was happening, people were being taken out and/or captured quietly. Having a psychic mastermind it means he knows who's going to be a problem in advance, so he probably got the little folks out of the way so nobody would be left when it was time to take down the big man. Plus anybody on the fence he could probably just pull over to his side.
He'd rather kill himself than bring disgrace to his friends and family. I don't even know what to say to that.
>Close the door on your way out.
I can see why Skyfox had such an appreciation for Blue Bolt. Richie don't take no shit.
>>88782304
>that guy who's upset about being saved by a broad
Hah.
Why am I not fucking surprised, Walter?
I was just looking for this and couldn't find it, well done OP. Exactly what I
Skyfox you glorious bastard. You're a true friend.
>>88782516
Glad I could provide. I've been in a little Miller Reinassance and the Jupiter Saga is by far some of his stronger work.
>>88780527
>>88780641
>>88780678
So how does Secret Service fit into this? Seems like they'd have mentioned the metahuman shit.
I probably would have taken her up on her offer for coffee. I really like coffee.
>>88782445
>That Duke McQueen outfit
Oh fuck yeah.
Jupiter's Legacy 001 (2013) (digital) (Minutemen-Spaztastic)
http://www77.zippyshare.com/v/bFTL1KZy/file.html
Jupiter's Legacy 002 (2013) (Minutemen-Spaztastic)
http://www77.zippyshare.com/v/JP8lddOa/file.html
Jupiter's Legacy 003 (2013) (digital) (Minutemen-Spaztastic)
http://www77.zippyshare.com/v/6VNxCbEp/file.html
Jupiter's Legacy 004 (2014) (digital) (Minutemen-Spaztastic)
http://www77.zippyshare.com/v/TerGHSyT/file.html
Jupiter's Legacy 005 (2015) (digital) (Minutemen-Spaztastic)
http://www77.zippyshare.com/v/3c9SSME6/file.html
>>88782485
It feels a little out of character coming from Walter, This is the guy that wanted to dismantled all religions a some decades into the future. Why he care if Blue Bolt buggers other men?
Okay...that does it for me. When I was in highschoo,l it was cheerleaders. WHen I was in college it was chicks in formal attire (Sandra Bullock in The Proposal makes my dick diamonds). Now...it's superhero cosplay.Wonder Woman specifically.
Fitz...god dammit.
>>88782728
I think you just recognized it. This takes place in the past. From my understanding Walter didn't start focus on trying to fix the world until muvh later. By that point he wised up and realized there are far more important things to concern yourself with than two guys pork fencing.
>>88782713
Excellent work on posting the links. When this is all done I'm going to post all the current issues in a password protected rar. Until then if you could continue to find the indivdiual issues that would be greatly appreciated.
This Bartender needs to shut the fuck up right meow.
God....dammit, Fitz.
Birth of a super-villain.
>>88783134
Jesus Christ this is going to end in flames
>>88781740
The same way Universe 1 started growing hero's again after the villians "won", Universe 2 grew villians to deal with the hero's, them probably more hero's in an effort to create homeostatis. Nature on a meta and metahuman level.
>>88783152
It's kind of amazing when you can predict the train wreck before it happens. I mean, I'm mortified the train wreck occurred, but I can't help but feel like fucking Sherlock Holmes when I call it.
Okay...another anon raised a good point. Where the fuck did these other heroes come from? There's no way in hell they're the children of the original six, so where the fuck did they come from? Visitors from another dimension? Science experiment gone terribly wrong/right? Shape-shifting aliens. Psychic projections? Mystical artifacts? The "Monitors" came back? WHAT?!?!?!
>>88783240
Maybe the aliens had done this superthing to the humans before. And when they gave the originals power it set off whatever was inside them to start the super arrival.
>>88782485
What ever happened to Blue Bolt anyway?
>>88783365
He continued shagging handsome men with incredible bodies and lived happily ever after as the Blue Brave Bachelor!
>Fucking Bitch
>>88783649
So all this shit going down, he's just surrounded by weightlifters and boy band members in the modern day, too busy juggling all that ass to know the world's gone to shit?
This could have ended on a much much much more sour note. I'm glad we got a least this glimmer of happiness. Also we dodged a huge fucking bullet with Fitz's kid. Anyone happen to know which Super he turned out to be?
>>88783760
Lol alright, honest answer.
1. He met his end at the ends of a villain, but that seems unlikely as I think he was still operating when Hutchence was a kid so he probably didn't die in the period to a villain or they would have incorporated said villain.
>That last statement is a HUGE stretch.
2. He died from AIDS
>I know this is horribly stereotyping but this was a serious issue decades ago.
>Also this is Millar, are we really going to say this is something he wouldn't do?
3. He retired years ago and hid himself away, but this seems unlikely as if he was still operating he more than likely would have been recruited by Chloe (unless he encountered a setback years ago that makes it near impossible to fight crime).
>>88783762
>implying the kid didn't smother his father with a pillow in the night
>>88784237
Oh come on lol.
>>88783762
Sheldon just looking at the camera and striking a pose in the corner throws the whole moment off
>>88778345
What's going on with the drapery of their clothes? It's like they're wearing shirts made of diapers
>>88785286
His expression seems to say "geeze, can you believe that bullshit?" as well.
So any theories onskyfox's survival? No fucking way he's really dead.
Jupiter's Circle 001 (2015) (digital) (Minutemen-Spaztastic)
http://www59.zippyshare.com/v/7nlt2n1z/file.html
Jupiter's Circle 002 (2015) (digital) (Minutemen-Spaztastic)
http://www62.zippyshare.com/v/w5riJupr/file.html
Jupiter's Circle 003 (2015) (digital) (Minutemen-Spaztastic)
http://www8.zippyshare.com/v/1ppq8ph3/file.html
Jupiter's Circle 004 (2015) (digital) (Minutemen-Spaztastic)
http://www35.zippyshare.com/v/W93axkF8/file.html
Jupiter's Circle 005 (2015) (digital) (Minutemen-Spaztastic)
http://www67.zippyshare.com/v/AmrzwqXu/file.html
Jupiter's Circle 006 (2015) (digital) (Minutemen-Spaztastic)
http://www62.zippyshare.com/v/ebPT5CII/file.html
>>88785426
artist style
>>88783191
that would explain the big amount of supes, their are too much to be all decendant of the original six.
Also i thing the luthorĀ“s like villain imply the point you say about the meta nature valance.
>>88781755
i like to think that here is where brainwave lost memories of friendship and fellowship that eventually make him the cunt he his
>>88785503
im in denial too bro, but is millar
>>88787467
That makes some sense, actually.
>>88787467
That makes a lot of sense.
Got some reaction faces
>>88790714
>>88778535
Thats happening? Whos on art?
>>88782235
>that last panel
WATCH IT BLUE BOLT
Jupiter's Circle Vol. 1 (2015) (digital TPB) (Minutemen-Entombed)
http://www27.zippyshare.com/v/gAO9Ed4w/file.html
Jupiter's Legacy Vol. 1 (2015) (digital TPB) (Minutemen-Entombed)
http://www113.zippyshare.com/v/FGnr9YND/file.html
>>88779028
Utopian is a telekinetic, too?
>>88783839
>>88783760
I like the hot boys retirement plan better.
>>88797474
who wouldn't