Civil War II

That was the only future they teased that wasn't completely boring.

We already knew about Monsters Unleashed so teasing it again is redundant. The X-Men will do something at some point, but it's so vague it could be anything, and oh goodie, Thor will fight Loki, because that hasn't happened a thousand times before.

>>88746435
any reason why cap is a nazi now?

>>88747052

he's not a Nazi

Red Skull used a sentient cosmic cube that is also a little girl to rewrite Steve Rogers childhood so that his mother seeks out help from his abusive father and it turns out to be a Hydra rep. His mother joins and Steve has now grown up as a Hydra agent who's been infiltrating organizations as Captain America.

Ironically Rogers is so Hydra brainwashed that he's trying to usurp Red Skull as leader of Hydra

>>88747109

One thing I never understood is how does that affect all the times he beat Red Skull in the past. Was he stopping Hydra for the glory of Hydra?

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>>88746462
"That was the only teaser that wasn't bori-

>>88746462
If King Thor vs. Loki wielding All-black the Necrosword wasn't hype as fuck for you then I don't know how I can trust your opinion.

>>88747224
Could've been retconned in his head to some deep cover gambit
>>88747388
Man Whor got swole.

>>88747109
>it's not a skrull, a mind trick, or anything! This is how it always was!


Reality warping does not count as it being the way things always were.

>>88747224
Red Skull didn't become involved with HYDRA until fairly recently despite what the movies would have you believe.

HYDRA =/= Nazis. Steve was part of HYDRA before the nazis even existed and he sees Red Skull as a corruption that needs removed. Steve is going to kill Skull and take over HYDRA for himself. To Make Hydra Great Again, you see.

>>88747403
Marvel is garbage and Thor is boring as fuck

>>88747410
But it is how things always were... after the reality warping happened.

>>88746462
Monsters Unleashed
Gotta Catch 'Em All

>>88746435
I'm so apathetic to Marvel anymore I just can't care. It was my childhood growing up but DC is putting out better books by a mile.

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>>88746435
>by the time this happens, Cap may have already killed the Red Skull, obtaining the sentient Cosmic Cube and Xavier's brain
>being killed is part of Steve's keikaku to become the new Onslaught

>>88746462
Thor vs Loki is actually good though, they're finally putting away the pretty boy Loki and they're giving Thor his hammer back.

>>88747467
>finally putting away the pretty boy Loki
you never read Loki, didn't you?

>>88747388
... I just realized he's dual wielding both hammers there.

>>88747561
Ohh.
It's Hammer time.

>>88747498
I don't unlike Pretty Boy Loki, I know what Ewing did in his run but other than Ewing's run, nobody really took advantage of this. Fuck his latest appearances have been pretty laughable, Vote Loki? Seriously? They did this shit years ago with Etrigan.

>>88746435
How many times do they have to kill him for him to stay dead?

>>88747109
>Red Skull used a sentient cosmic cube that is also a little girl

Is this japan?

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>When they have to resort to fantasy to win

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>>88747467
Oh boy, everything will be exactly like it was for 50 damn years. How exci-*falls asleep*

>>88747109
>Nazi Cap #1 ships
>Spencer promises that the storyline is real and that it's not brainwashing
>issue 2 ships
>it's brainwashing

>>88747440
You know there's more than two comic publishers, right?

>>88747589
>They did this shit years ago with Etrigan.
It was great then, and it was good now.

>>88747665
Necro Loki vs Double Hammer Thor is pretty exciting, way more exciting than Cancer Patient Jane.

>>88747683
It wasn't brainwashing. It was reality warping.

>>88747710
Yes, they reality warped his beliefs. Totally not mind manipulation!

>>88747665
you have to go back

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>>88747665
>>Thor is worthy again and duel wielding hammers agains evil Loki wielding a weopon that took 3 thors to defeat isn't hype as Fuck?!?

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>>88747665
>>character literally has backstory changed by reality warper.Pol thinks it's brainwashing

>>88747388
is this the same artist from secret wars?

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>>88747710
That just sounds like brainwashing with extra steps!

>>88747765
Not really brain washing is having someone convince you a lie is true,in this case caps past was changed to make it true

>>88747735
>Oh boy you guys, Goku and Vegeta are going to fight yet again but this time instead of Super Sayian Blue they're Super Sayian GREEN, how unique and different.

>>88747723
It isn't. It's reality manipulation.

He said it wasn't "mind control, an imposter, or triple agent." It was none of those three things. Or, depending on your perspective, it was all three of those things.

>>88747793
>>88747710
>shilling for Spencer this hard

Bottom line, Spencer said these were Cap's sincere beliefs and not a trick, and then they turned out to be a trick.

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>>88747796
The last time Loki fought Thor was 20 years ago,and the all black BTFO of gods,it's return is long overdue and Loki falling back to villiany after 13 years sounds promising

>>88747764
Yes, it's Ribic. Same person that did both previous All-black the Necrosword/King Thor arcs.

>>88747814
But anon, they ARE his sincere beliefs. Kobik warped reality to make sure of it.

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>>88747796
But he didnt lie,Rogers history has been meddled so that hydras goals are his one true belief and always have been since a boy

>>88747109
Does white America really have so much self loathing as to do this shit?

Fucking pathetic.

>>88747735
Good to know ancient norse gods shave their armpits

Are Hydra still Nazis?

Do they still espouse the ideas of racial purity and ethnic nationalism?

Are they still about the blood and soil, ein volk, ein reich, ein fuhrer?

Do they want to impose integralism and fascist economic systems on the world?

Or are they just jack-booted villains? Is the Red Skull a Nazi, or is he Norman Osborn in Hugo Boss?

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>>88747735
>evil Loki
That bit's not hype as fuck.
Stop acting like it's hype as fuck.
I AM hype as fuck for that page, GoT was my first comic, but only because I'm going under the assumption that it's a future Loki or a double-bluffing Loki or something.
Fuck your status quo, nigga.

>>88747639
>When they have to resort to fantasy to win
I mean, nazis lost WWII so is it really a fantasy?

>>88748090
Hydra were NEVER nazis,they existed a 1000s years before before the nazis,it was just a single member of the nazi party who after realising hurler would never rule the world took over Hydra and fought Rogers after the war.Hydra wants to rule the world,they weren't formed or involved with nazis.Hydra in the comics is noghing like in the movies

>>88748127
THAT'S WHAT YOUUUUUUUUUUUU THIIIIIIIIIIIINK

>>88747989
Where you from?

>>88748150
Ah, that's interesting, then.

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>you will never be a Marvelcuck

>>88748150
>Hydra in the comics was noghing like in the movies

fixed.

>>88748073
The Norse were considered faggots because they actually combed their beards before braiding them and because they washed weekly. It's not hard to believe that one with access to modern ways of trimming would shave the pits.

>>88747589
>Vote Loki? Seriously? They did this shit years ago with Etrigan.

Vote Loki accurately predicted the SJW riots.

Marvel Comics CEO is butt buddies with Trump

He's working the SJW into giving them free publicity.
/pol/ wins again.

>>88748237
Appreciate the DA MAN meme, didn't know it existed.
t. Marvelcuck

>>88747410
It is while the reality warping is still in effect.

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>>88747683

it's not Brainwashing

Red Skull specifically says that mind controlling Steve Rogers is too easy and would not work. He needed Rogers to REALLY eat, breathe, and live for Hydra.

The only way to do that is to warp reality

So does this interfere with the people who dress up as Captain America at the gay pride parades?

( psst It's a Nextwave Agents of H.A.T.E. reference)

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>>88748504
Funny you should mention that: I stumbled across some pages from Cap's old "gay friend" story last night.
Anyone know an issue number?

>>88748494
So... Long con brainwashing? I mean he warped his past, sure, but essentially the results are the same. Same plot device, different wrapping.

>>88748587

in what way?

Brainwashing opens up the idea that any telepath, let's say the new Jean Grey who loves to mind rape everyone she meets, is going to pick up that someone is being controlled by someone

If you warp reality, it's hard coded. what happened is perceived as reality and how can a telepath pic that up?

reality warping yes brings Cap to the same destination, but was chosen because of it had better perks than just mind controlling him.

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>>88747665
>changefags

>>88746435
I did Nazi a black male being a violent murderer.

>>88748732
This smells like shitpost.
Wanna prove otherwise by elaborating?
He's bring obnoxious too, but at least for the right reason.

>>88748544
Just look up what issues Arnold Roth appeared in.

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>>88748732
you bring up an interesting point

>>88748504
No since Cap is now gay for Zemo.

>>88748504
We don't talk about Nextwave here, anon.

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>>88749441
Bull fucking SHIT we don't. Since when?

>>88749733
I don't want 12ers to know about Nextwave. new Novafags will, but that's acceptable.

>>88749761
>12ers
That's a new one on me.
People who only started reading in 2012, I presume?

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>>88749885
Yes.

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>>88749961
Ah well that clears that up then.
You're talking to a 12er HERE. RIGHT. NOW.

>>88746435
So it was just one big excuse for an SJW wank? OK.

>>88747814
What is he Linda Belcher?

>>88748494
When you put it like that it seems kinda gay.

is the cosmic cube little girl at least cute?

>>88747388
Eat a dick. Loki should never go back to being evil.

>>88750623
The pages is cool as fuck if you presume it's a one-time thing.
Brainwashing, alt-future, RUSE, etc..

>>88750680
Honestly, I just want to think that Loki's broken the cycle. Every time they tease "oooh, is he going back to evil?" I feel like it's actively dragging him closer to some genius going "you know what? We should make Loki evil again!"
That said, Thor dual-wielding the hammers is absolutely gorgeous.

>>88749761
Everyone deserves to know about Nextwave, anon. Are you saying that 12ers shouldn't start reading good comics?

>>88748090
I think even Hydra is now an 'open' organization.

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>>88747450
These Cap memes are the best

>>88750730
IMO we'll have to be far enough in the future that how good JiM & AoA were has literally been forgotten for that to happen.
Or IDK. Joe Queseda gets replaced with a Thorfag.

>>88747450
Well he did say he didn't mind dying for the glory of Hydra.

>>88748093
Thor knows he killed Kid Loki, they will never be on friendly terms ever again so and Aaron seems to be playing Loki as a shifty dude so I can see them fighting each other with Loki not being a villain.

But trying to be good while not having Thor's love is going to be pushing him to the darker side.

>>88751963
>Thor knows he killed Kid Loki
Technically, that was a different Loki, who died and reincarnated into the God of Stories.
(And wasn't the entire point of the ending of AoA that he'd moved past caring what the rest of Asgard and his family thought of him?)

>>88750730


I think they could get around it by having the Necrosword corrupt him.

>>88751963
This is perfectly acceptable.
As per the second part what >>88752109 said.

>>88747814
They are sincere beliefs, problem is Red Skulls plan is shit. He can't break Steve Rogers if Steve Rogers is a fucking nazi since childhood.

>>88746435
The question is, is he going to kill him knowing that he's Hydra? Or will it be something unrelated? Will Miles be the only one to know and decide to keep it secret to save Cap's legacy?

>>88747450
>Steve's cover is blown
>He Spoc's his consciousness into Miles
>Miles is a hero
>Keikaku goes on