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Ultimates ancillary storytime - Kubik 2016-12-27 06:09:11 Post No. 88705186
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Ultimates ancillary storytime - Kubik 2016-12-27 06:09:11 Post No. 88705186
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Hey /co/ lets shoot the shit about Ultimates whilst reading about THE COSMIC CUBE.
Starting with the OG Lee & Kirby storyline.
Shaper of Worlds storytime: >>88626231
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>>88705186
Sorry for the misleading cover, I ain't dumping the Iron Man story.
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>>88705274
Don't quote me on it but I do believe this story was also Red Skull's in-the-flesh return from the Golden Age.
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>>88705303
Goodness knows where I got that impression.
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>>88705186
Oh shit, I completely missed the first one but the idea is great. Thanks senpaitachi
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>>88705699
>>88705696
No prob, anon. It was Christmas week, you had other priorities.
I would've done it before last week's issue had I paid attention to solicits & known it was coming out.
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>>88705754
Besides, now that I DO know what the next issue features, I've got another storytime idea so want to get this one out of the way.
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>>88706185
Gotta pop out in a sec, aiming to finish this issue first
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>>88706292
ite, brb
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okay so if I do the rest of the issues I was planning to do there's still 100 images slots left.
There were several more Cosmic Cube storylines between the one we just finished and the next thing on the itinerary. They're not relevant to the overarching narrative I'm going for, but anyone interested anyway?
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>>88706794
Go for it, I'm sure Ewing's read them
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What do you want to discuss about Ultimates?
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>>88706794
If you do every Cosmic Cube story ever you're gonna be here for a while. Skip to the ones that matter.
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>>88706916
>>88707101
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO
Gimme a sec I'll flip through them and see if I can pick out the important stuff.
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>>88706794
You do realize /co/'s imagelimit is 250, right?
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>>88707302
By "important" I meant stories that deal with the Cosmic Cube's sentience and potential to be so. If it's another "The Red Skull gets the Cosmic Cube" story than it's not really relevant.
Like that time the Red Skull trapped the ghost of Hitler's clone into a Cosmic Cube. Then again, that story is so crazy that many would probably enjoy it.
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We interrupt our regularly scheduled broadcast to bring you CUBEQUEST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C612b2NFMwo
Abridged
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>>88707790
>>88707020
The two things that really got my goat were in the last thread.
i.e. the definition of a Mutliverse and that one anon's "EVERYTHING LIVES" theory that finished up the thread and got no replies.
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>>88707816
>>88707414
Yeah.
It's that little material.
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>>88707816
>He turned the Cube into a pendant
You can do that?
And why would you want to use your fists for fighting when you have the Cube?
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>>88707816
I didn't see that. Any link?
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>>88707835
>>88707598
I've read that one myself, but wasn't gonna do it anyway because apparently it's a different Cube altogether.
Which begs the question of where that one went...
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>>88707875
>>88707850
You can do anything when you have THE CUBE!
>And why would you want to use your fists for fighting when you have the Cube?
More inconspicuous & harder to drop.
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>>88707904
>>88707873
Link's in the last thread. Gimme a sec.
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>>88705206
>posting the King
>apologizing
Pick one.
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>>88707875
>Which begs the question of where that one went...
It later showed up in Mark Waid's run, some Nazis tried to bring Hitler back to life.
...wait a minute, was that the Cube whose fragments would eventually become Kubik? If so it might be relevant.
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>>88708072
>Kubik
Meant to say Kobik
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>>88707942
>>88707873
>>88590829
>technically, "Multiverse" in Marvel cosmology only refers to the various planes\realms\dimension, while Omniverse refers to that PLUS all the alternate timelines and everything in the middle.
That's bullshit.
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>>88708100
>>88592420
>LISTEN UP /CO/ I'VE GOT A THEORY: I get that most people think that what the shaper saw were the beyonders, it's highly likely and thats what I got on my first read. But with all the talk about nothing dying, what ifhe's talking about the other seven eternities?
>>| saw the secret! I saw the one that is one! And more! I saw the others
>The one that is one is eternity because theres only one living omniverse. His secret is that he is chained. And the others? they are the other eternities, condemned to the hell.of oblivion.
That's AWESOME.
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>>88708100
God, I just wish they had a different colorist.
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>>88708150
>>88707976
Isn't that cover by Colan? He's credited with the art on the issues' Iron Man stories.
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>>88708150
That's a really neat idea. It'd let Ewing go absolutely nuts on continuity too, which I'm sure he'd love.
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>>88708175
>>88708072
>>88708096
Well dang, indeed it may.Apparently there was a third Cube too?
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>>88708072
>>88708096
After a brief wiki-walk, I can confirm that the Cube that the Cube that Hitler was imprisoned in that first showed up in Super-Villain Team-Up and that would eventually be destroyed years later in Captain America 448 is indeed the same Cube whose fragments would eventually become Kobik.
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>>88708227
Just how dumb are these idiots? They really think that handing the Red Skull omnipotent power is to their advantage? That he would reward them? Do they not know the guy very well?
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Huh. Apparently this arc also featured the introduction of The Falcon.
Anyone want me to dump those pages whilst I'm at it?
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>>88708382
Yeah, the Cosmic Cube is how Sam Wilson got his bird powers.
And then there's the whole "Snap" Wilson thing...
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>>88708382
If you feel you'll have enough space.
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>>88708382
Is he lighting a cigarette with the cosmic cube?
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>>88708522
He's just that badass.
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>>88708382
>>88708494
I'll come back to it, later. It'd disrupt the flow for several reasons.
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>>88708613
>>88708198
I was talking to someone the other day about Everything Is Canon theory and recc'd him Ultimates incase that comes to pass.
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>>88708652
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>>88708674
BTW anyone know if old-school Iron Man ever had a body-swap arc?
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>>88708729
And that is the story of how MODOK saved the world!
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>>88705186
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>>88708906
Damnit anon, it's a storytime, we have unwritten rules about this.
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>>88708729
This story should probably be it's own storytime some time.
Hopefully it's the basis for the Captain Marvel movie, that'd give me a good excuse.
>>88708930
He mmmmmmight be passively agressively commenting on my posting speed.
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>>88708984
it was a reference, the cover looks like goofy time
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>>88708984
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>>88709003
Ah, I didn't notice.
Kek.
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>>88709138
Here's a little "how did Rick fucking Jones of all people know" exposition.
Also there's a neat tidbit I'm only noticing now and will mention later.
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>>88709198
This sequence I could totally skip over since it's not relevant but I'm hella biased.
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>>88709198
Is there anyone Rick Jones doesn't know?
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>>88709237
Feige.
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>>88709744
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>>88709826
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>>88710251
Yeah sorry there's only like 6 issues of stories left but they're dense as fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck so I'm having trouble picking out the vital bits.
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>>88706020
Do we see that AIM mook again?
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>>88710657
Nope
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>>88710863
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>>88710884
Wundar's a Gerber Man-Thing character btw. Superman parody, IIRC.
I'd have drudged up some pages from his debut story (and the Rick Jones parts from Kree-Skrull War) but I figure this detour's taking long enough with just the Cube stuff.
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>>88710962
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>>88710934
I remember him showing up in Marvel Zombies 3. He was bitten by Zombie Headpool, but went into some weird healing bubble to purge the virus.
He hasn't been seen since.
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>>88710999
>>88710988
Was it 616 Wundar or Marvel Zombies-verse Wundar? I thought they didn't reach 616 until vol. 4.
IIRC Gerber explicitly asked fans to not vote for him in some poll because he'd rather he fade off into obscurity.
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>>88711080
It was 616 Wundarr, Marvel Zombies 3 was in fact where the zombie thing first reached 616.
Brevoort hates Gerber for almost getting him fired so his opinions are irrelevant.
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>>88711080
I've been trying to post for 5 minutes and captcha kept refusing to load. Be advised.
By the way I've decided to do this issue in it's entirety since it's just that good.
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>>88711354
>>88711116
Like I said man, Gerber himself was the one who asked.
Is was a muh creator's rights thing, he didn't want anyone else playing with his toys.
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>>88711388
Wait when did ARMOR become a thing then? Jennifer Kale, Daimon, Jack Russel etc.. I could've sworn that was MZ4. Had some Zombies already broken through before that?
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>>88711444
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>>88711444
ARMOR became a thing in MZ3, they kept showing up in MZ4. MZ3 is where the zombies first broke through to 616, MZ4 is a direct continuation.
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>>88711465
This guy's a fundamental part of the Earth-X sequels.
I still don't get why.
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>>88711500
>>88711491
So were there any other casualties besides Wundar?
How many got through?
This is all news to me and I'm weirdly fascinated.
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>>88711520
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>>88711538
Speaking of Gerber OH SHIT DAT BOI
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>>88711575
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>>88711520
Wundarr was part of the Florida Initiative Team alongside Siege (an obscure cyborg from Deathlok's old series) and an old Man-Thing character called Conquistador. Kale and (possibly) Wundarr were the only survivors.
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>>88711595
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>>88711595
Remember when AIM made Jude the Entropic Man their Minister of Health?
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>>88711619
>>88711610
Neat.
>Conquistador
He sound familiar. Immortal Sapniard?
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>>88711642
>>88711627
No.
gibbe source, sounds fun
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>>88711642
Indeed, not immortal enough to survive getting killed by Zombies though.
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>>88711660
Spencer's Secret Avengers run. AIM had its own country and staffed its whole cabinet with super-villains like Superia, Graviton and Mentallo.
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>>88711747
>>88711686
That's the one that had The Fury on the team right?
Might have to check it out after all.
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>>88711763
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>>88711763
It's pretty good. I do warn that one big mystery set up since the first issue isn't answered in that book, but instead in Avengers World, another Spencer book.
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>>88711667
Not Zuvembies?
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>>88712263
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>>88712082
>>88712099
Why are prisoners allowed to wear their costumes?
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>>88712201
I just realized that the MCU sort of adapted this story by having Project PEGASUS be the ones to hold the Cosmic Cube (or Tesseract) in the Avengers movie.
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>>88712294
Okay so that's the only part the Cube plays in this particular story, but it feels weird just jumping somewhere else mid-narrative. Anyone interested in finishing this issue? It's by Gruenwald.
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>>88712374
The issue has 18 pages left, doesn't seem worth it. Stick to the Cube as you've done so far.
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>>88712413
Alrighty. I gotta go eat summin'. If anyone else is interested speak up, I'll do it at the end with the Falcon pages.
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>>88712374
Okay one last Cube story then we're off to the actual planned storytime.
Technically I could skip it since it doesn't go anywhere or introduce anyone but what the hell I'm a sucker for snex.
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>>88705186
>>88706321
>>88706794
AND NOW
BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL INTENDED STORYTIME
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>>88716591
>>88706916
ARE YOU HAPPY
YOU BLOODY BETTER BE
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>>88715418
>>88716332
Thanks senpai. Sorry for the 2 hour wait.
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>>88716641
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>>88707598
>Like that time the Red Skull trapped the ghost of Hitler's clone into a Cosmic Cube
That story actually is relevant, since that Cosmic Cube became Kobik and is responsible for the current Captain HYDRA plotline.
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>>88711595
Reminder that one of these losers in a red cloak is Andrew Forson, the person Hickman had take over AIM in his Fantastic Four run and proceeded to be one of the main antagonists of his Avengers run.
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desu I had no idea the Wundar/Aquarian backstory was in those 2-in-1 issues so I'd say the detour turned out for the best
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>>88716704
interesting if true
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>>88716732
Just as planned.I had no idea either
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>>88716991
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OH
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WADUP
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Might I just point out:
>>88709198
>The rationale for this decision is unknown
gg Gillis
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Daw Steve you dork
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>>88716666
Satan confirms
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>>88716753
>Oops! I let go of the Cosmic Cube!
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>>88716821
>>88716849
Why are AIM's jumpsuits blue instead of yellow?
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>>88719412
>>88719431
Why is Angel wearing sunglasses?
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>>88721180
one story left
but am sleppy
pls keep bump
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>>88721180
>>88721269
So in light of Bobby being gay, what can we conclude from this?
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>>88705966
I love how crazy early Red Skull is.
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>>88705655
Ah, there was a time when Tony Stark was not yet viewed as a fascist bully loser...
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>>88708150
>the others
The others are the Beyonders. They're not dead.
You read it here.
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>>88708613
The Catholite Block was never used again. Which is interesting, given that it is apparently the only thing that can actually disable a Cosmic Cube.
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>>88708729
>anyone know if old-school Iron Man ever had a body-swap arc?
He didn't. He did have a doppleganger for a bit - a rogue LMD - but that was about two issues.
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>>88711783
Jude making a comeback without Victorius in the pages of 'Paradise X'.
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>>88719462
I always wondered where Cloud came from.
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>>88721356
Maybe he's actually bi. That would have been a lot easier to swallow.
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>>88721269
House almost burned down so sleep didn't last long. Thanks for the bumps!
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>>88722727
>>88721356
>>88722355
Man that ain't even the most damning exchange.
Dude spaghetti's everywhere when it first happens earlier in the arc.
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>>88722758
Did Mootwo get rid of (You)s overnight? Mine suddenly stopped showing.
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>>88721878
Nig anyone & everyone who read the comic figured it's the Beyonders. Anon was suggesting they're a red herring and that Ewing's actually going full Hypercrisis (which fits his modus operandi).
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>>88722782
Tess-One recently showed up again in CA: Steve Rogers, Taskmaster is controlling it now.
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>>88721911
Ach, that's a pity. Both Thor & Cap had them.
Leave it to Tony to be too boring to accommodate one.
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>>88722870
>it
Wow ABLEIST MUCH
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>>88722926
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>>88722907
>Ach, that's a pity. Both Thor & Cap had them.
I never understood how Loki in Thor's body could lift Mjolnir while Thor in Loki's body couldn't.
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>>88722827
Why wasn't Marrina made an official Avenger?
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>>88722962
>>88722951
MAGIC
A
G
I
C
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>>88722962
>>88722978
Remember when Stingray was a serious character and not one of Deadpool's flunkies?
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>>88722966
Why wasn't Whizzer? Or DeMara? Or Deathcry?
They basically count anyway, as far as several writers & artists are concerned.
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>>88723033
Anon nobody ever took Stingray seriously. That's why he's the only former Avenger on the team.
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>>88723036
Remember when the Avengers had their own database with lots of intel? Bendis doesn't, that's probably why every character he writes is extremely ignorant of things they should know.
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>>88723067
That said he totally should've been first in line for a solo series. Not any of the 3 berks who got one.
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>>88723072
'Member editors?
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>>88722758
He really does look like Mentallo and the Fixer did the Fusion Dance.
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>>88723135
It's funny how this super-old Sentry robot is more dangerous than any other Sentry robot we ever see. Sentry robots might as well be Sentinels with how easily they're usually dispatched.
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>>88723173
Don't make 'em like they used to.
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>>88723199
Yo isn't this guy an Adult Swim character?
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>>88722907
Awesome Andy with a face just isn't the same.
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>>88723213
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>>88723213
>THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO BEFORE THE DAWN OF MAN
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>>88723217
I can't remember who nonchalantly made him a villain again but I'm mad about it.
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>>88723248
Wasn't it Dan Slott himself?
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>>88723237
THERE WAS SIR SANTA OF CLAWWWWWWWS
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>>88723276
say whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
w-why would he demolish his own work...
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>>88723389
BWOWWWWWWWM
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I believe the Super-Adaptoid last showed up in Uncanny Avengers. He apparently died when he tried abosrbing Deadpool's powers but ended up with super cancer instead.
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>>88723564
kek
sounds like a Cyanide & Happiness strip
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>>88723590
fin
will dump a little extra later
And do one more storytime... Thursday/Friday-ish?
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With CWII wrapping it up it looks like Ulysses is going to join in with Ewing's cosmic stuff.
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>>88723213
'member that bottom-left panel
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>>88726624
Considering Ewing wrote Ulysses' solo mini, that's not much of a surprise. I actually like Ulysses well enough so I'm glad he's getting picked up by a good writer.
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>>88708382
>>88708494
>>88708613
Here y'go anon.
If you want it in quick succession speak up, I wanna space out my bumps.
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>>88731880
Also this is one of the "reasons" I thought it'd interrupt the flow. The pages I did from the beginning & end of the arc skip the whole Cap/Skull body swap thing, so sync better.
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>>88723213
>that design
>that bottom left panel
Huh. That actually lends itself really well to the idea that the cosmic cubes are Beyonder eggs.
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>>88733668
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>>88732843
>>88735322
I thought that the Red Skull had red hair.
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>>88735322
>>88736070
IT'S THE MUD
Also thanks for reminding me. The face being a mask was news to me, I always assumed it was just that deformed. Wanted to look it up.
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>>88736251
It used to be a mask, up to the point where he "died" of old age once the effects of the gas that slowed his aging wore off.
After Arnim Zola brought him back in a cloned body of Steve Rogers, he was hit by his own Dust of Death and his face became deformed, so he was a literal red skull now. This lasted until he was killed by the Winter Soldier.
The Red Skull is currently in a clone of his original body, and I believe he's gone back to wearing a ridiculously expressive mask.
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>>88736251
>The face being a mask was news to me, I always assumed it was just that deformed.
It's been both. It was originally a mask, but then at one point his face got fucked up to make it his actual face.
The current Red Skull is a clone of the original, and he was just wearing a mask until Magneto destroyed his face in AXIS, but when Red Skull reconstituted his face when he became Red Onslaught/White Skull, I think it became his actual face again.
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>>88736251
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>>88736388
>I believe he's gone back to wearing a ridiculously expressive mask.
It was definitely a mask up until AXIS since we can see the mask get torn up when Magneto is kicking his shit in but after turning into Red Onslaught, his face turned into the actual Red Skull again. Although I guess it could still be a mask and that was just a psionic projection.
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>>88736388
>>88736400
I know about the clone thing. Sort of makes it hard for me to take Red Skull seriously these days, y'know? Sixth Day really stuck with me as a kid.
I'm not even into Cap but I'd pop huge for MUH Red Skull to come back from beyond the veil and fry the imposter Stewie Griffin-style.
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I also saved two more cool Falcon pages for myself but that's the gist of his origin done. Anybody wants them ask. Lest I be tempted to use the remaining image space on something else.
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>>88712294
Interesting art composition in this panel. Aquarius the water-bearer, with Klaw's sound blaster as pitcher.
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>>88739196
Gruenwald was a madman.
Also, hey! Someone's into the Aquarian story after all! I'll pick out 7 pages to post.
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>>88712374
>>88739196
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>>88741053
I prefer the newest Universe, where sentient Singularities are cuties.
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>>88741053
BY THE WAY. On the off chance anyone's still here:
Is everybody familiar with the original Secret Wars & Secret Wars II? Or would y'all appreciate a little refresher course to start the next thread off?
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>>88741321
>YOU'RRRE
>HERRRRRRRRRRE
>THERE'S NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTHING I FEARRRRRR
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>>88741410
DONE
See y'all Friday.
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