Hulk #1

>>88663185
>Mirror far too high because no Hulk
Good idea.

>>88663185
Did she make a ton of toast and then just ate one?

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>>88663221
Either referencing the old tv show trope (character just eats one piece of large breakfast), or referencing how Jen's appetite is much smaller than when she is She-Hulk and she hasn't adjusted yet.

>>88663244
She tells us she feels sick, so there's that.
Probably the amount she made was lacking adjustment. Not even eating a normal portion is the trauma.

>>88663244
Korra go home, your gf is waiting!

Amazing that people take this comic as "tumblr" when Jen looking at Patsy's message on her phone and trying to watch a quirky youtube video, then finding it totally inadequate and hulking out is about as blatant a rejection of that kind of story as you could get.

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I guess I'd be disappointed too if I was expecting to meet a giant green sex goddess.

>>88663156
Scanbro?

>>88663259
So she gave up on her law firm after probably getting kicked out while in a coma.
Can't have a talking duck and magic monkey in this comic, I guess.

>>88663269
>Amazing that people take this comic as "tumblr"
You're still amazed at the autism of people who angrily post on the internet?
Did you just get a provider?

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Who is this she- hulk? Why is she grey? I don't read Marvel. Just watch the movies.

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>>88663273
I heard Scanbro died. Killed by Rich Johnston's journalistic integrity.

>>88663279
It WOULD be distracting to telling a serious story, yes.

This feels like just what I've wanted. A female-led comic that doesn't just ignore all problems or rely only on cute moments for its beats. It's easy to draw the lines here, but it's still shaping up to be an interesting She-Hulk story.

>>88663293
Scanbro was deported by Trump for being a illegal immigrant.

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>>88663287
It's the original She-Hulk. She rarely would be in her normal form because she enjoyed being She-Hulk. However, after taking a rocket to the tits in Civil War II, things have changed as her She-Hulk form is grey and more rage-fueled.

>>88663287
Same Shulkie as always.
But she got knocked into a coma she barely survived, had her cousin Bruce (original Hulk) killed by reckless super hero shenanigans and now struggles to cope with the trauma of it all. Which is why she can't trust herself with the Green. Or rather Grey right now, signifying great distress and uncontrolled rage.

>>88663319
Thanks for answering my questions.

>>88663327
Thank you for answering.

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>I have to get home before it gets dark.

Jen left for work in the morning, right? Where did the day go?

>>88663364
I'm pretty sure that watch shows 10:10AM, not PM. It's still morning.

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>>88663338
I just realised they gave her the freak case on purpose.
"Eh, she'll know how to handle that kinda stuff!"

>>88663378
We don't know how long her travel home is.
Or what else she has to do that day.

>>88663393
Yes, that was my point.

>>88663393
Simple. It's a continuity error.

I really like it so far.

>>88663406
Well you're easily pleased.

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Is that a radish head? With a bite out of it?

>>88663404
Why would you assume that at this point? Her looking at the watch is deliberate: they chose to show you the line, which doesn't line up with the dialogue. It's a plot hook.

>>88663317
Trump's reign of terror hit pirates the most.

>>88663430
>the line
the time

I mean like even seeing the clients and her going back out >>88663425. It's not nighttime, right? It's not a continuity error: that person said a weird thing which doesn't match up with what we saw, so it's something to be suspicious about that we'll probably find more about later.

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Now we're up to the preview pages.

It's a Christmas miracle!

>>88663185
>Yes, it could use a cleanup. Back off.
I know it's meant to sound like free indirect speech from Jen, but the font makes it look like the writer intruding the story too close, it takes me out of it.

>>88663382
Wasn't she-hulk specialized in super-hero and other people with power?

>>88663404
Occam's razor, dude.
We take the solution with the least suppositions.
A: No error, just a cryptic line that could mean anything and will possibly be explained, but needs no real follow-up.
B: Massive miscommunication between writer and artist, and the writer is unable keep time within half an issue.

They talked for like five minutes and she only then came into office, then asks for the next thing to do. We can just assume the time to be accurate and the established crazy woman saying odd things.

>>88663442
Anyone able to translate the restaurant name?

>>88663418
Considering how shit Marvel is right now, this is like a breath of fresh air.

>>88663451
This isn't a hero case, though.
This is an eviction case for a pale recluse.

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>>88663461
Sum Ting Wong?

>>88663425
>Jenn's waiting room is Brandon Graham's sketchbook

>>88663472
We'll see how long it takes Marvel to fuck this up.

>>88663221
She's upping her animu girl impression. Now it's just the looks, by issue #3 she's going to be late for work and go out in a rush with the toast in her mouth

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5KxZ5Lc_YA

>>88663490
My bet is around 10-12 issues. Yes, I am an optimist.

>>88663479
To be honest I do see this whole sequence especially these pages:
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>>88663502
As a rejection of the stuff we've gotten in Hellcat. You're right, it's a domestic case: but it's weird, it's not cute. It's not something that Shulkie is saying is going to be fixed immediately. It's not some teen socjus point being spelled out on the page for you. it's an adult lawyer having an initial client hearing.

I'm FINE with that. I feel like this book has promise well beyond Marvel's recent female solos so far. It's the first issue and they could easily fuck that up, but.

>>88663522
>I feel like this book has promise well beyond Marvel's recent female solos so far
Damning with faint praise. Congratulations, you are not causing the fans to throw feces!

>>88663542
I want to protect that smile

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Fin.

>>88663524
>>88663542
HAHA! Time for depressing studies of trauma and insanity!
It all returns to nothing...

>>88663561

>>88663544
I mean I outright think this was a good first issue. Like it just is more adult, right? There's more depth to it. We see flaws in the characters we see, it's not all zero drama and neatly wrapped up.

I have hated the critical reception stuff like Hellcat has gotten. It's an entirely inoffensive book, but it's also pretty boring and Kate Leth somehow has a rep for boundary-pushing and progressiveness when her comics are the most tame shit imaginable.

We even get our lil horror movie finish here >>88663567

I like it. It's got everything I could want in a solo book: a strong character focus, good hook, well-written MC, something to actually write about. I don't see it fucking up but it's Marvel, so they can always fuck up. I'm not trying to damn with faint praise, that's just how it is.

>>88663567
Thanks, OP!
This was really much better than I expected.
Also more graphic novel than cape comic.

>If you talk to God, it's religion
>If God talks to you it's paranoid schizophrenia

>>88663569
CRAWLING IN MY SKIN...

>>88663259
So she officially closed shop? That's sad, considering how optimistic her outlook was in Soule's series.
Although it makes sense that they went for a relatable Jen who has to struggle against panic attacks while juggling an otherwise supposedly orderly job where you're not your own boss and you have fixed work hours.
Also she looks too moe here

>>88663583
...and also the line that is easily drawn that if you are a good person you like the book, and if you are a bad person you don't like it and are MRA/Nazi/whatever the fuck.

It's okay to not want every depiction of a woman MC in the Marvel universe to be a quirky womanchild.

>>88663406
Anon...this is /co/ don't tell anyone that you actually like something or you'll be ridiculed

>>88663567
Great start. How I'd imagine the Netflix series to go.

>>88663293
>I heard Scanbro died. Killed by Rich Johnston's journalistic integrity.
Damn, killed by a legendary ghost, too spooky for me

>>88663542
loving the cups of coffee

>>88663619
Don't even compare this to Netflix shit.
This is actually enjoyable.

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20 pages without She-Hulk
BRAVO MARVEL

I don't want to read a comic version of Suits at least Suits had the spectacular Gina Torres ass
Here Nico Leon doesn't have the intelligence to draw a hot Jennifer Walters with skirts

And to make worse Marvel put pants on She-Hulk
Now the pack of shit is complete.

>>88663567
Well I was expecting this to be CRAWLING IN MY SKIN!, but it was much better than I had hoped.

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>>88663634
Really anon? Really?

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>>88663634
This is what happens to you when you lurk here too long.
Take heed, the rest of you.

>>88663567
Are you fucking serious? Not even one page of She-Hulk? Fuck this trash.

>>88663425
Being an invisble guy would totally be a great reason to get /fa/ so everyone can concentrate on the outfit rather than the model
That guy is a genius

>>88663634
>I can't fap to it so it's shit
I hope you are ironic anon.

>>88663634
>fuck the characters I like being done well, give me the T&A

>>88663661
Calm your tits.

>>88663673
I think it's actually an invisible girl. Also that painting is interesting huh.

>>88663506
The real optimism here is thinking that Marvel still does """"ongoings"""" now, they could fuck it up whenever and this book will probably never see issue #20 anyway before getting relaunched with another "season"

>>88663699
They're ALL ongoings. Because if they say it's a limited series, sales are automatically lower usually. People avoid them for some reason, except for event ones.

>>88663524
I want to believe that Tamaki really wrote "Clint" here and the editor made it into Hawkeye because le casual-friendly first issue. It feels so off.

>>88663707
Limited series are cash grabs. Events sell because they are EVENTS.

>>88663406
I like when they show her lawyer side, maybe cause I a also a lawyer, and well, she helps people, is like my old fantasies about this awful job

>>88663583
>being this much of a cuck on Jesus' birthday

Shame on you.

>>88663506
Isn't this a mini?

>>88663744
A lawyer who spends time on /CO/. Merry Christmas.

>>88663707
I know it, but Marvel has been drugging the market so that no character who's not A-series or at least MCU/Netflix has a sustainable readership anymore, so every title bleeds numbers until they reach the ~20k or lower zone around issue #12 or sooner, and they relaunch it, and the expectation that the title won't be there for long is confirmed so it bleeds even worse and relaunch with the same team is inevitable. It's a spyral. Only exceptions seem to be X-books (and even those are being gutted now, although this being a deliberate ploy is debatable) and desperately viraled characters like le ebin Gwen and Shithumans

>>88663744
Comics are great for escapism.

hoping the writing stays this decent, thanks for the storytime

Is this xmas gift, like, 3 days early?

I enjoyed this a lot more than I thought I would, I feared it would be either tumblr or edgelord crap ala Penance, but this felt more like mature book about trauma. Loving the creeping horror here.

Thank you for the storytime, anon.

>>88663156
BASED
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Merry Christmas Not-Scanbro!

>>88663185
>mirror positioned for she-hulk, not Jen
Heh, that's pretty good. Off to a good start desu.

>>88663259
Ah. So Jen's Asian.

>>88663156

Thank you for the storytime, anon.

Have you gotten the opportunity to read any of the other stuff coming out next week? Not resquesting storytimes, mind you, just curious if there is anything interesting in terms of spoilers and such.

>>88663887
Bleeding Cool was right about Tony Stark being in a coma.

>>88663718
Seems plausible.

>>88663899

So Tony isn't dead? Well, that's kinda pointless. What happened to Captain Hydra in CW2 issue #8? Did he at least get injured?

>>88663910
That I don't know. Just saw the part about Tony, and the comic ends with Carol. Only looked at it briefly so can't really add anything more.

>>88663921

Ah, okay. Thank you for the answering the question anon!

>>88663319
What is this creature?

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Yeah, I really want to read about a Hulk comic where a Hulk never appears, with internal monologue that is a constant oppressive nervous wreck, and her own empowering transformation is now actively disempowering to the point she can't even transform anymore.

I don't fucking understand why writers think every single cape comic needs to be about massive emotional trauma. A few is interesting. Everything being that way is both disgusting and boring. Worse, it's Jen's time to get the Hulk name rather than She-Hulk, and it's just time to shit on her.

>>88663963
may waifu

>>88664005

What other books does Marvel have about emotional trauma, though? Most are fairly lighthearted and even stuff like Captain Marvel which should focus on it more only lightly touches upon the trauma.

>>88663634
Hey, it's that CAROL IS A MAN anon

Fuck you.

>>88664005
that's nice.
I, on the other hand, am looking forward to a hulk comic where hulking out is a worst case scenario comparable to a bomb going off

>>88664046
Perhaps I should have said 'where completely shitty things happen' instead. Ms Marvel started strong, for instance, but it moved in to the opposite of the fun kind of writing that originally drew people in.

Comics also have a long history of trying to make a character 'interesting' by making them a bigger mental case than yer mum and then wondering why no one likes it anymore. At which point they have to quietly ignore things like they made a character a psycho wife beating drunkard in order to keep going.

>>88664113
Except the entire point of She-Hulk was she was a Hulk who ENJOYED being a Hulk because it made her tough and strong. If you wanted "hulking out is a traumatic experience that ruins everything' you should have asked them to keep Bruce.

I mean holy shit. Literally turning her in to the female version of the old male hulk. They actually had a female version of a hero with her own personality and troubles and then decide, nah, we're just going to have her be Bruce now.

Thanks OP. It was much better than I expected.

>>88664046
>What other books does Marvel have about emotional trauma, though?
Alias
And....well, there was this book where they went all "these kids have PTSD! This means they're no longer heroes and belong with the Nazis!". It sucked donkey dicks and I partially blame it for why previous book with She-Hulk got killed early.

>>88664144
>Except the entire point of She-Hulk was she was a Hulk who ENJOYED being a Hulk because it made her tough and strong.
The title of this book is Hulk, not She-Hulk.

>If you wanted "hulking out is a traumatic experience that ruins everything' you should have asked them to keep Bruce.
Except it wasn't really that for him for a very long time?

>>88664005
Squirrel girl and Hellcat are tailor made for your taste, anon. Why don't you try those instead of this edgy crap?

>>88663319
OH JEEZ! TOO SPOOKY!

NEW WAIFU

Merry Christmas OP. Thanks! I'm intrigued by this series. I thought it was going to be grimderp trash, but this issue was good. I'm a little bummed that Jen's not the happy-go-lucky hero she was, but at least they're treating the book's concept with the right amount of respect. Let's see if it all goes to shit.

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>>88663899
>couldn't even go full murderCarol right

>>88663383
I want to protect that smile!

>>88663739
>Limited series are cash grabs
Except minis always do way worse in sales than they would if they were just advertised as ongoings, because people just trade wait on minis almost exclusively. It's the opposite of a cash grab because there's no cash to be grabbed.

>>88663718
It's also possible that she says "Hawkeye" to distance the fact that it was a friend of hers that did it. By saying Clint, it makes it more personal and thus event more rage inducing.

>>88663567
Shit, that's a good hook right there. I really wasn't expecting much out of this but it ended up being really good! I'm going to add this to my pull-list after all.

Thanks OP.

>>88664375
It's not her fault. Tony's so Invincible even the Queen of Yas could not slay him.

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>>88663899
Really it was bound to happen that way

>>88663963
Her design really reminds me of the hippy treacherous junkie in Saga except white

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>>88663590
>Also more graphic novel than cape comic.
You have no idea what a graphic novel is and shouldn't use words you don't understand the meaning of. But yes, it was good.

>>88663817
Today is Xmas, anon. It's right on time.

>>88663583
Oh, I agree the issue was very good.
But if you say it's better than Leth's big pile of nothing or Carol's push towards no personality, that is not saying much.

>>88664304
>Alias
You mean the comic that came out 15 years ago? The new Jessica Jones ongoing isn't about trauma, it's about... I honestly couldn't tell you because Bendis has like 3-4 plots going at once, and the only one that's even remotely interesting is the one that gets the least amount of attention while the rest are just avenues for bendisspeak.

>>88664488
Being better than Leth is setting the bar really low.

>>88664144
>Except the entire point of She-Hulk was she was a Hulk who ENJOYED being a Hulk because it made her tough and strong
Hence why this book isn't called She-hulk. Like, I get the complaint that this is a huge departure from your usual She-hulk book, but that's the exact reason why they're not calling it she-hulk in the first place.

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>>88664476
>webm starts
>instantly started murmuring the "when I'm bored" song
>it perfectly fits

Thanks. Waaay better then I thought it was gonna be. I was really afraid of this comic just aping Bruce and Hulk's duality and applying it to Jen who honestly doesn't fit the mold, but this is much more appropriate for her character.

Honestly it feels more like a Josei manga then a Superhero comic.

>>88663899
FFS, Marvel really needs to cut down the length of this shitty events.

Where's She-Hulk?
No action scenes
only boring talking pages

JESUS

>>88664476
He meant that the whole issue was spent setting up things without an obligatory action sequence.

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>>88664568
>He meant that the whole issue was spent setting up things without an obligatory action sequence.


A good writer could do all this in 6 pages

>>88664568
OK? What the fuck does that have to do with graphic novels? Graphic Novels are self-contained books that are published in their entirety upon release. This is an ongoing, meaning it's not a graphic novel by its very definition.

Do you also think Watchmen is a graphic novel? Hint: It's not.

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>>88664594
Why is that a bad thing?

>>88664513
>You mean the comic that came out 15 years ago?
Yes

>>88664545
>the first issue is build up and intrigue without action sequences
It's almost like it's being written as the beginning to an ongoing story rather than every individual issue being a standalone with a beginning, middle, and end complete with climax.

>comic on sunday
wtf ?

>>88664619
Because they probably saw the title was "Hulk" and assumed they'd be getting HULK SMASH, HULK STRONGEST THERE IS. To which, if they want that, then they should go read Totally Awesome Hulk instead. This is clearly going for the more psychological aspects of the Hulk as opposed to the action-y element.

>>88664637
Anon leaked it as a Christmas present.

>>88664664
This. Marvel is finished.

>>88663630
>Netflix
Doesn't feel that way. I mean, the villain seems tastefully creepy so far and not like an autistic manchild that's neither threatening nor entertaining.

>>88663502
I love the intensity of the transformation. I wonder how long before we get to see her hulk out for real.

>>88664530
Good josei is just good a comic book and I think this book could go the right way.
Trying to ape badly josei tropes, situations and writing as Kelly Sue de Connick tried to do while still writing a classic superhero book except with quirky meta awareness was the worst.
I know this is big words, but give me Kate Leth any day before that, at least Leth is a definite, single-flavored, one-way style of bad writing.

>>88664724
Looking at the solicits for future issues, it sounds like #3.

>>88663567
Wow, is there a She-Hulk book that isnt good?
Thanks for the storytime OP and happy holidays

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>>88664655

This issue was dedicated to generation of people with more than 90 years

Jennifer is a Doll
Copacetic issue
I am spending my Jacks with this issues, jane

Any civil war II spoilers?

>>88664810
Carol puts Tony in a coma and feels bad about it. The Predictive Justice Program gets shut down.

>>88664598
Graphic novel does not mean what you think it means.
You're arbitrarily limiting the definition to ORIGINAL graphic novels, which do come out as a single trade, but the format itself has more to do with the way the story is told, as the very fucking words "graphic novel" suggest. So Watchmen is a graphic novel.
According to your definition, actual novels that originally came out as ongoing serials on magazines are not really novels. So half of Dickens' writings, Hugo's Les Miserables, The three musketeers, basically everything Dostojevsky, Uncle Tom's Cabin and countless more I cannot remember are not novels to you because they came out in chapters and were stretched out or cut short according to what the public thought of it? Rethink your life nigga

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>>88664598
No, it's just a pseudo-intellectual way of saying "a comic that was good"

>>88664824
how about those pages by the other artists previewing the next event?

>>88664831
>According to your definition, actual novels that originally came out as ongoing serials on magazines are not really novels. So half of Dickens' writings, Hugo's Les Miserables, The three musketeers, basically everything Dostojevsky, Uncle Tom's Cabin and countless more I cannot remember are not novels to you because they came out in chapters and were stretched out or cut short according to what the public thought of it?
You're right, they're not novels. A TV show isn't a movie just because you binge watch it. They're collected editions of serialized prose. I'm not familiar enough with /lit/ to know if they have their own worse for that. If they don't, then "novel" would just be a short-hand but technically incorrect term for those works to compensate for the lack of a distinct word for it.

But in comics, we do have words for those distinctions so there's really no excuse for applying the term graphic novel to things that are not, by definition, graphic novels.

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I liked it. Thank you, OP.

>>88664859
No, pseudo-intellectuals and people who are ashamed of reading "comics" thus needing a term that means comics/sequential art without actually using the word "comics" use it to mean that. That's not what it means though. It's simply a publishing format, wherein a comic is released in its entirety with a beginning middle and end rather than being meant for serialization. It's sometimes used (incorrectly) on books that marketing wants you to think are deep and intellectual to try to pander to the people who need words like that because of the whole "ashamed of the word 'comics'" mentality, but those instances are, again, incorrect usages of the term.

But let's not turn this into yet another "bitch about the term Graphic Novel being used incorrectly" thread because we get enough of those already.

>>88663156
Hey, thanks for posting this.

Personally I think it's nothing special so far. A little heavy-handed, especially for a first issue, but I'm sure it may improve as time goes on.

>>88663185
I'm trying to figure out if she had everything specially scaled to She-Hulk height or if Jen is just a massive womanlette when not transformed.

>>88665344
It's both really.

>>88663425
I want to know that seemingly normal guy's deal.

>>88664476
I mean this is paced as a book, not an issue, and avoids cape behavior in favor of simple character drama.

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>>88665449
>simple character drama

who fucking care about character drama?
this is a fucking super hero comics, motherfucker
bring me action
bring me spectacular stories
a fucking hot she-hulk
put she-hulk in the 21 century
stop this stupidity of jennifer walters lawyer life
this is fucking boring
who's gonna buy this shit?

>>88665566
No, this is not a superhero comic.
Are you blind?
Just because it's Marvel doesn’t mean it has to be strictly the shit you expect.

In my opinion, She-Hulk is the best female character from Marvel
She has everything to be what Wonder Woman has never been in comics
But Marvel lost all these years telling stories without any importance and continue making the same mistake year after year
Maybe the Marvel heads should be replaced for fresh minds

>>88665762
>In my opinion, She-Hulk is the best female character from Marvel
Nah, that's Sue.

>>88665593

20 pages lost of Jen going back to his office and unpacking your box
Wow, this is fucking excited right, m8?

What's with all the shitposting?

>>88665566
>who's gonna buy this shit?
anyone with refined taste

>>88665833
What kind of people do you expect to be here on Christmas morning?

>>88665811
If you can't even get your retarded opinion out without absurd errors, don't expect to be taken seriously.

This was a very good read.

Will you do CW, not-Scanbro?

>>88663271
I'd be disappointed but more interested what the hell she's doing here rather than the important work of saving people from being blown up by aliens or something. I feel like there's room for superheroic lawyers and this firm is clearly not the place for that.

I liked this first issue. Was a lot better than I expected it to be.

>>88665762
I'm ready for a regime change, too. DC could use one as well.

>>88663567
this wasn't bad at all, I enjoyed it honestly. No forced bs, just a well thought out comic.

>>88663156
This was very good.
Wish the art was a bit better but it's alright.

Has Tamaki mentioned in interviews how long she or marvel is gonna drag this out?
Cause it being like Vision or Black Widow and having a set number of issues would be nice.

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>>88663661

You stupid motherfucker. You can't seriously be this stupid. The whole fucking story is about her NOT wanting to be She-Hulk and fighting against it. You didn't see the part where she's smashing shit and rolling on the floor trying not to turn green?

>>88665566
This. Comic books should be about action and explosions and punching things. Who reads it for boring shit like characters talking to each other? If I wanted that I'd go read something boring like Moby Dick

>>88663259
I want to enjoy carnal relations with Bradley

>>88666648
Grey. Trying not to turn grey.

>>88667138
He looks like a guy who enjoys having his hair pulled while being fucked in the ass.

>>88667186
carol pls

At first I thought making Jen just have Bruce's old hang ups was wasteful, since Jen's always been fun hulk and Bruce was always angry hulk. But honestly Shulky's previous position as the in control hulk prevents this from being a retread of all of Banner's stories. Jen wants to be Shulk but can't, to the point she's more comfortable being green than being the "real" her, and now she has to work to deny herself that.

>>88663222
Jessica Cruz, what are you doing in 616?

>>88663271
This spaghetti is delicious

>>88663634
everything about this post is terrible

>>88663185

>Toast in mouth

Just like my Malaysian powerpoint presentations.

>>88666293
>DC could use one as well.
Fuck off shill. Rebirth is one of the single biggest breaths of fresh air the industry has ever seen. They're combining top tier talent with best-in-class editors and the end result is high selling, low cost, genre-defining masterpieces for everyone from casual to hardcore, upper class to lower class, far-right to centrist, and everyone in between.

If every comic publisher was even a quarter as good as DC Rebirth has been, then the comics industry would start to rival its contemporary medias in profitability and popularity. Basically, Marvel and all these Literally Whos like "image" and "IDW" are dragging everyone else down while DC is the only one doing anything to keep the industry a float.

Remember that the next time you think to open your shill mouth and try to imply that Rebirth is anything less than a revelatory experience.

Seriously, when will being a Marvel shill become a bannable offense? All they do is shitpost up and down the board with their blatant bait. I'm fucking sick of the fact that anytime anyone remotely criticizes Marvel, the shills start pouring in to go "b-b-but DC" and spew nothing short of blatant libel. It's like they WANT the comics industry to fail.

>>88666574
Well they can't keep her as Hulk forever. I imagine she'll be back to her jade goddess self by the end.

>>88667138
Yeah, he looks like a top tier fuccboi.

>>88667796
This is an awful copypasta.

>>88667852
She wouldn't have an arc otherwise, would she?
And Jennifer Walters, esq. is not all that interesting by itself. Her being out doing hero shit and lawyering at the same time is the contrast that makes her.

>>88663673
>>88663425
It´s a girl. The tits gave it away. Now the real question is: Why boner? I think i found a new fetish of mine.

>>88667852
>story ends with her coming to terms with her trauma and Bruce's death, regaining enough control to revert back to her regular green form
>the week before the last issue is released Bendis has her, still in Grey form, revive Bruce by just channeling all that excess gamma radiation into his corpse, and be instantly cured of everything that way

watch it happen

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>>88669419
Whatever you do DON'T go read My Hero Academia

>>88669735
Oppai loli? That's a gigantic bra for someone so short.

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>>88669797
Horikoshi's girls are often pretty uh, healthy but it's just bad proportions I think.

>>88663451
She wasn't technically specialized. Superheroes just tend to have alot of money stashed away somewhere and being She-Hulk means she can't be intimidated like normal lawyers.
Typecasting would be a better word for it.

>>88669963
>Superheroes just tend to have alot of money stashed away somewhere
If you're Tony Stark, sure, but did being an Avenger actually have a salary besides presumably comped room and board at their various team fortresses?

Or was she doing enough lawyering on the side between once a month saving the universe to afford an apartment that big in NYC, let alone the fact everything is custom sized up just a bit for her (which is weird and unnecessary anyway. She-Hulk is a bit under 7 foot half the time she's drawn, most cabinets and sinks are still within easy arm range.)

>>88670223
>If you're Tony Stark, sure, but did being an Avenger actually have a salary besides presumably comped room and board at their various team fortresses?
Yes, actually. Not always since the Avengers have had various different structures over the years with varying amounts of budgets to work with, but there's been multiple instances where being an Avenger was basically full-time job with a salary. It wasn't high paying but it was enough that you could live off of ontop of room and board.

>>88663156
thanks OP for sharing, took the liberty to put the scans on a cbr file for those who might want to read this later.

http://www110.zippyshare.com/v/b7RJhhsd/file.html

>>88670223
Yes. It was/is a fairly massive salary if Hellcat's reaction upon learning she had one and how much it was is anything to go by.(She was broke at the time so it could have been partially from that.) Most don't take the paycheck but said most tend to have some alternate means of moneymaking.
Pym has a fortune from his inventions, Janet has her inheritance and fashion designs, Banner doesn't need your puny money but he donates everything to charities helping out Hulk victims.
Cap is still a WWII vet so the government owed/owes him his old salary and misc pensions until the end of time so he doesn't actually have to work. It's not like the government can try to cut him off from that because cutting off THE war veteran would be the worst PR imaginable.
Carol has her Conel salary, misc bestselller book deals that are ghost written, and whatever else.
Hawkeye made enough to be a slumlord and this is in a NY where insurance rates have astronomically skyrocketed due to risk of superanything making a building explode.
The only ones that are consistently poor are D-man and Peter Parker and even Parker is rich now.

>>88663156
Thanks for the storytme. Any chance at a second Christmas miracle and putting CW II out of our misery?

>>88670412

>The only ones that are consistently poor are D-man

Didn't D-Man have a mansion during Gruenwald's Cap run when USAgent was wielding the shield?

>>88663634

underrated post

>>88670621
I'm not sure as I've unfortunately not read everything and in some cases merely pickup on of alot from the sheer amount of time i've lurked here but that sounds fairly out of character and implausible since he donates all his pay to the homeless.
Did he randomly get it donated to him or something?

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>>88670530
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMp8aDH8d9M

>>88666574
>Wish the art was a bit better but it's alright.
I think it's pretty nice, but I'm coming off from Soule's run which was a visual chore to get through.

>>88670704

It was in Captain America somewhere between #332-350 but I don't remember the exact issue right now. Either Nomad or D-Man definitely had a mansion in that run, though.

>>88667796
>all these Literally Whos like "image" and "IDW" are dragging everyone else down
Non-big 2 comic books have like 50-70% readable material. With big 2 it's 5-10%. Marvel is too infested with SJWs and DC is just too repetitive.
What is worse, big 2 fans don't care about quality of writing or art, only about characters. Which is why crap like N52 Suicide Squad or Squirrel Girl keeps going , but Omega Men got cancelled.

>>88663364

So.....vampire?

>>88670917
Reverse vampire.

>>88670910
Very few companies have even 50% readable material, unless you're someone who just gobbles down everything that is produced. Except for Avatar Press, but that's only because they publish very little material, and stuff like War Stories, Providence, Cinema Purgatorio and Uber make up 99% of everything they produce.

Merry Christmas, gentlemen and thank you OP!

>>88670412
D-man had money from his time in the UCWF. He didn't become homeless until after the fact because he burned through all of his money recklessly and then the UCWF went under so he didn't have any form of income anymore and was forced onto the streets. And then once you're homeless, it's EXTREMELY difficult to stop being homeless because that would take getting a job and no job will hire you if you don't have a place of residence. That's why it's so hard for the homeless to improve their standings in life.

>>88663425
>>88663425
Wait, is that ANAD Bagman?

So what happens in Civil War II #8?

>>88663156
Feliz Navidad, anónimo, y gracias por el comic

>>88673146
Carol puts Tony in a coma. It's broadcasted on live television, which causes a big enough PR disaster to get the Predictive Justice Program shut down.

>>88673480
Seriously? After he publicly started a brawl that leveled an international ambassadorial hall (triskelion), kidnapped people, and then purposely started up a deadly brawl in the middle of Washington DC on live television the fact that he got his shit slapped in is a PR disaster for Carol's side?
Everyone should be fucking cheering Carol on for that.

>>88673733
It's pretty amazing that Bendis can get me to side with the bad guys in Minority Report because he wrote the "good guys" so badly

>>88674232
Ayup.
Bendis fuckes up every comic touching upon his shit, ruining half of Marvel's books at least temporarily.

>>88673733
>Everyone should be fucking cheering Carol on for that.
They are according to her book.

>>88673480
Now this just makes me wonder what the original ending before the rewrite was gonna be.

>>88663567
I like it! The tone reminds me of Vision.

>>88674812
Something about one of Bendis' fetish characters saving the day, I guess?
Good thing Marvel remembered nobody likes those, so the assholes who bumble their way through this mess of an ending are white and not black. Which makes a giant difference, I bet.

>>88674999
I would say this is more sincerely concerned in tone and not gleefully teasing sadist pleasures to come.

>>88674270

Which I don't get... stupid sheeple!

She's all about trampling people's constitutional rights -- because who the fuck cares about mens rea, actus reus and habeas corpus, right? Just throw them in jail!

Here's a question: If they wanted to make a story wherein Jennifer Walters did not want to be Hulk, much less She-Hulk, why call the comic "Hulk" in the first place? Why not something like "Jennifer Walters: She-Hulk" or something?

>>88675067
>mens rea
Or womens rea, you sexist!

>>88675158
>“The title She-Hulk evokes light-hearted stories about a Jennifer Walters who is at peace with herself and in full control of her powers,” says Marvel editor-in-chief Axel Alonso. “This isn’t that book. On the other hand, the title Hulk implies all of the baggage that comes with that comic’s 50+ year history—the ongoing battle with the monster within—and that’s why it’s more appropriate for this series. Jen went through major trauma in Civil War II, and Mariko and Nico’s story will deal with the fallout of that trauma—the anxiety and anger, sometimes self-destructive, that comes along with it. If there is light at the end of the tunnel, Jen is going to have to search hard for it, and she’s going to have to battle with some pretty big monsters—including the one within—to find herself again.”

also branding

>>88675158
Because a simple and evocative title works better than one that relies on people knowing She-Hulk's legal name?
Because the central problem is hulking out?
Because Hulk just has better name recognition?

>>88675163

womens rea is just a period

>>88675203
>the title Hulk implies all of the baggage that comes with that comic’s 50+ year history—the ongoing battle with the monster within—and that’s why it’s more appropriate for this series.
I can see how that works, but I don't see "Hulk" as immediately identifiable with that concept.

I'm almost tempted to suggest going the Rebuild route and using a title like "I Am (Not) Hulk" or something.

>>88664824
Can i get a link for that spoiler?

>>88663524
When Jen finally does hulk out, a part of me hopes she hunts down and rages on Carol.

Really enjoyed this issue - certainly interested despite Marvel's recent track record.

>>88675319
Hulk is not Smash

>>88675530
Exactly. It can incorporate "Hulk" in the main name, but there should be more to get the point across that this isn't a series about Hulking out.

>>88675566
Christ dude.

>>88675566
This is why people hate comic fans

>>88675319

Jen: I musn't run away! I musn't run away!

Everyone else: Jen, get in the Hulk!

(Later)

Gigantic Bruce turns just about everyone into a green gamma puddle

There's gospel music

>>88675319
They aren't writing a fucking light novel, though.
They are writing a very sombre, serious story about a character not her usual self.
That means no corny taglines or adjectives. And it's still Marvel so the character name would front and center as the main selling point.
And that is how you get this title.

>>88663156
>She-Hulk book.

>No 4th wa shenanigans.

>>88663661
SHE-HULK IS FUCKING DEAD!

It's just Jen and The Hulk now.

>>88675716
See:
>>88663185

>>88674232
Both sides were stupid but Carol's was more so. Tony was proven right numerous times from what he learned of Ulysses' power and Carol caused numerous predictions to happen in trying to stop them from happening yet remained adamant to push forward

>>88675772
Not necessarily dead, just buried underneath her new Savage Hulk persona.

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>>88675530
If the Hulk had a stand it would be the Hulk.

>>88675852
SHE'S FUCKING DEAD!

>>88675716
>>88675203
this is a hulk book anon

>>88675859

You were expecting Bruce, but it was I, DIO!

>>88675786
That's not Jen breaking the 4th wall. That's the narriator.

>>88675932
Jen is the narrator.

>>88675631
>>88675638
Samefag. I can tell by the pixels.

>>88675670
It would only look corny on paper. It doesn't necessarily make it corny in practice.

>>88675932
>>88675942
Technically it's not even a narrator. It's the Omniscient Descriptor. They're in every book.

>>88675876
No, this is a book about Jen. If they didn't want to do one about her, they should have invented a new character.

>X-23 is now a normal girl
>She-Hulk is now full of inner-demons and angst
Marvel has finally done it. I'm dropping an X-book in favor of something Avengers related.

>>88664516
>Like, I get the complaint that this is a huge departure from your usual She-hulk book, but that's the exact reason why they're not calling it she-hulk in the first place.
That's a really good point that's actually completely appropriate, but also gets completely lost because Marvel has recently changed titles of female-lead books for nothing but shits, giggles and a quick buck.

>>88663567
Fuck me, this is actually a really good first issue.

Which means we'll maybe get twelve issues before cancellation.

>>88675530
But if Hulk is not smash, what am Hulk?

This entire issue reminds me an capeshit from CW
A bad one with that sad song in the end

>>88674232
The bad guy in Minority Report was the guy who gamed the system to murder someone with a double jeopardy con. Everything was going great with murder practically abolished except for crimes of passion which they could still predict and prevent with less heads up.

>>88675033
>and not gleefully teasing sadist pleasures to come.
Yeah, that's what bugged me about the Vision. It felt so forced to tell you "Oh yeah, everyone here is going to die! Isn't this book brilliant?"

>>Genuinely good book gets posted
>>/co/ likes it

How much you want to bet that Newsarama will give it a 3/10? "Why isn't Jen happy and optimistic?!"

>>88678449
To be fair, if there's any character Marvel has that's suppose to be happy and optimistic, then it's She-Hulk.

>>88663259
That fourth panel is literally just someone drawing the :3 face.

>>88675158
I think you mean
>Jennifer Walters: Attorney at Law

>>88663319
She reminds me of the Lolita from ibitsu creepy stuff right there.

>>88678772
Hulk: Attorney At Law

>>88679151
Dr. The Hulk MD

>>88664664
We have several porn boards.
Use one of them.

>>88679205
I'd read an arc of Totally Awesome which amounts to Cho being a Doogie Howser somewhere.

>>88663425
PIKMIN

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>>88679326
Not what I was going for.

>>88665566
This early storytime has actually convinced me to go out and buy this on Wednesday.

I can hardly believe it but I have actually enjoyed a lot of Marvel floppies this month.

>>88663156
Anyone got any idea what volume this is of Adjectiveless Hulk?

>>88680245
Four.

>>88680300
>Four
Thanks, senpai.

I was thinking I'd just have to make a 'hulk_2017' folder and that would do terrible things to my autism.

TERRIBLE THINGS!

>>88663314
>This feels like just what I've wanted. A female-led comic that doesn't just ignore all problems or rely only on cute moments for its beats. It's easy to draw the lines here, but it's still shaping up to be an interesting She-Hulk story.

Yeah, I....I'm actually surprised how much I'm looking forward to it. No "quirky" situations and shit. Big selling point for me is it's going back to the dynamic of Jen's different forms. She's been Shlkie nonstop for a while, but now she looks like she'll be focusing on being Jen and She-hulk will be a problem for her.

>>88681071
Wasn't a Jen focus the successful gimmick of past She-Hulk books?
It seems like the tone of the book shifting to more serious stuff is the only actual departure from a past formula.

>>88663319

Not to be rude, but what the fucking fuck is that woman?

>>88663440
it could allude to the position of the sun, getting dark doesn't mean night time. I'm reaching hard as shit but I just wanted to say something. If the sun goes behind a building or a cloudy ass day maybe something happens to her. The question is, she was sitting in that pitch black room so what the fuck does night matter?

Looks good, interested in this initial arc at least. Wish I had taken the time to read that Slott storytime earlier.

So uhh.. where is She-Hulk? Heh...
How can you publush a #1 ish where nothing fucking happens???

>>88681151
A client.
And maybe an alien, a mutant, an Inhuman, or some other Marvel sub-group that She-Hulk would normally encounter in her weird life.

>>88681071
Fuck, Jen completely denying that she and She-Hulk are different personas has been a thing before. Now it looks like Shulkie is going to be starkly different than Jen, like the Hulk is with Bruce.

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>>88681332
The argument can be made that the Hulk persona is part of the Bruce persona.
When people get angry they behave radically different from how they would otherwise behave.
Black-outs from episodes of anger is a real thing.
Not being able to think clearly is also commonplace.
Maybe Bruce is just a much more extreme case of the normal effects of rage.

>>88663156
of course the second CWII ends

the quality upticks

>>88681412
the Amadeus Hulk book went with that. Bruce chides himself several times for referring to the Hulk as a separate entity from himself

>>88681587
Still, they are making up the Hulk mythos as they go along, any reader or comic writer that sees it differently has every right to.

>>88681619
Such is the nature of comics.
With different writers you get different versions of characters.
But it is very hard to say whether something is really a distinct person a facet of another. Hulk has traditionally been more separate from Bruce than She-Hulk was from Jen, though.
It remains to be seen just how far they are now.
I guess it will not be a complete suppression of Jen, but rather her being very angry.

>>88663244
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>88676732
>But if Hulk not smash, what am Hulk?
underrated post.

>>88681135
The 'Jen Focus' only lasts about six issues in a given shulk run. Then you get shenanigans. With the more serious tone of this book it might take 10-14 issues if it lasts that long.
To long time shulkie fans I just say relax and enjoy the ride.

>>88663567
>>88663542
>>88663383
Those large eyes, the pale skin, this fixation with promises, and the overgrown greenery in her apartment remind me of a fairy. The scary sort of fairy.

>>88664427
That does vibe with the implied pause before thinking the name.

>>88681151
A cutie

>>88683164
Maybe it's a refugee from one of those magic realms that went to war in the Thor book?

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>>88663561
I'm with ya there

>>88683164
Yeah it does feel that way.

She reminds me of Changeling: The Lost.

For those that have never heard of it, it's TTRPG where the players take the roles of people dragged off (or seduced off, or tricked, or whatever) to faerie by the Fair Folk and put to work somehow. Eventually, before the start of the game, they manage to escape somehow, but by the time they get back to Earth they've been changed by their time in faerie and are more fae than human. Also they've usually been replaced by a fetch (a clone made of leaves and twigs and other random crap) that will alert their keeper if they try to just jump back into their old life.

Basically it's PTSD: The Game.

>>88684512
There are so many awesome sounding TTRPGs that I can't imagine ever finding a group that'd want to run them.

>>88684630
Well, WoD stuff like Changeling is pretty popular. If you have a LGS there's usually a group around that has up to running one.

>>88684630
Changeling is probably the best of the WoD games, which are on the whole very YMMV. But peope def play it, just look fir a group.

>>88684630
There is a ton of great and not-so-great systems.
The trick is finding the right thing for you and your group.
I had awesome Shadowrun games, but it's just a very different beast than Exalted, or D&D, or Degenesis.
But some groups work well with FATE, or even complete freeform shit, while most autistic covens swear by Riddle of Steel or LotFR.
Hell, I heard people had fun with Toon, or Big Mutherfuckin Crab Truckers.
Maybe drop by /tg/ and see if you can find yourself a group online to get a feeling for what you like.

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>>88684795
I'd say it has solid competition from the new Demon.

>spy vs spy game about angels and demons
>you're a rogue program in the matrix, except the matrix is reality and the machines are God
>you avoid detection by taking on pieces of other people's lives via contracts, becoming more 'real'
>using your powers creates errors and blips in reality that make you easier to identify
>you start out mega powerful, but using your abilities at full capacity is like lighting a beacon that tells the heavenly host to come and fuck your shit up
>mfw

Promethean has a great concept too. It's kinda hard to run though.

>>88663627
>>88663542

I just realized with all those cups of coffee, not one of them is empty, she probably never drinks them

>>88683164
That would explain the humpback wings

>>88681288
Sadly that's basically what new #1s are these days, the issue where nothing fucking happens because of exposition.

>>88684898
I ran a (modified) game of Rob Liefeld's BloodP.O.U.C.H. with my group and they loved it.

Where's the sexy miniskirts and being self-reliant?

>>88684905
>Promethean has a great concept too. It's kinda hard to run though.
A recurring trend I find. There are a lot of books with great concepts but in being great, unique concepts, they're always steeped in systems and lore that are either hard to pick up or require a big investment from the players to get into.

>>88685010
Huh, good eye. Didn't notice that.

>>88685272
Black Widow's #1 was the opposite. It was a pure action issue with pretty much 0 dialogue starting in media res. It was an awesome first issue but got a shitton of hate from people for the very reason that it wasn't just EXPOSITION EVERYWHERE.

>>88684630
finding groups that rotate the games are the best IMO

>>88685367
People bitch no matter what.
Give them a fucking stunt orgy, they bitch.
Give them a character study, they bitch.
Give them exposition and setup, they bitch.
Give them jokes and hilarity, they bitch.
Because it's not enough to not read a book that is not the thing you hapen to feel like. You need to bitch and moan about how it is not the myriad things it could have been, were it not the thing it is.

>>88665566
>who fucking care about character drama?

Character drama makes the inevitable superheroics and fight scenes more satisfying and emotionally impactful because it's all happening to people that you care about.

This was pretty good. I'm surprised

>>88686482
>You need to bitch and moan about how it is not the myriad things it could have been, were it not the thing it is

Oh my god, this is EXACTLY the problem with damn near everybody on this website.

Of course things could always be better, especially in our mind, but you can't fucking hold your perfect mind's eye interpretation against the actual finished product. That's like using conceptual art to measure the worth of a movie or game or whatever.

And it applies to almost everybody, comicfags, cartoonfags, moviefags, vidyafags, every fucking "critic" here operates under the MO of "Well it COULD have been perfect and since it's NOT that makes it SHIT."

It's honestly childish and short-sighted as fuck.

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>>88663319
>those eyes
Go back to your gym

>>88688095
What was the deal with her?

>>88663567
>entire issue of a book staring goddamn Shulkie and not one panel of delicious green goddess
If I ignore this huge glaring issue, this was a decent #1. Jen's primary struggle is more about the trauma of what happened and the theme of this book will most likely be how to move on from it and get back to her old, confident and fun ways. There's still the chance of goofy lawyer shenanigans, and this shadowy voice is a great hook. I'll keep an eye out for this.

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>>88664389
And you can abuse and batter it over and over again.

Because it regrows back.

>>88688209
I got no idea, at first I thought with the combination of the dress and the fuck me boots she was suppose to be influenced by the Harujuku girl fad, but that doesn't really fit in with the old-timey town she's in or the other girls in her gym. I think she's just a weirdo.

>>88688209
Either a fairy pretending to be human or just a faeboo. Probably the latter.

>>88685347
I think the problem with Promethean is that it requires actual character work, and the GM has to be seriously well prepared with new locations and pertinent conflicts, since there's no dallying in one place for too long.

It's not BAD, it just requires that its players are operating on another level.

>>88685010
maybe they're for her friend

>>88688597
He's not drinking it, though.

>>88663524
They were doing so well until they reminded me Civil War II was a thing and now I'm sad again.

>>88688524
The exact opposite would be Only War.
That requires a GM to do nothing with characters but to use a thousand faceless NPCs in order to stage a battle.
Premade missions are literally impossible RAW because you just cannot have PCs do shit when their fight is that large, nor can you actually use the numbers because the system can't abstract large formations, so you just have to juryrig the combat encounters to downscale everything to 1% of the given numbers in order to have a chance there.
Also the game massively limits player freedom in their choice of class and composition because they have to fit the same damn unit and most casses don't qualify for most units.
It really only dies one thing well. Being an Imperial soldier in over his head.
Which is a bit shit because players generally hate being ordered around and bound to die.

>>88663524
Imagine how tight is her pussy right now

>>88663156
Is it wrong that don't give a shit what Marvel Comics is doing anymore? I don't even care enough to look at their stuff for free on the internets.

Really want to read this, where do I start? The previous volume (3)? Or do I have to go through some damned crossover?

>>88685367
>It was an awesome first issue but got a shitton of hate from people for the very reason that it wasn't just EXPOSITION EVERYWHERE.


No, it got criticism because it was a bland rehash of the old "Black Widow on the run from the government" plot again, with barely any story to explain why she was on the lam. As a first issue it was terrible. Sure, the art was nice but that was all it was, ok art with nothing to bring you back next issue since you read it in five minutes and had nothing of note or interest happen in it. Unless you were a hardcore Samnee fan, you paid four bucks for a glorified art pamphlet doing an extended action sequence.

>>88689835
Well. Her last run was a while back, so this starts in Totally Awesome Hulk (she's in 1-4 (unrelated but fun) and 7,8 (the part you care about, I guess)) and CIvil War II up to issue 3, then 7 and 8. Also A-Force has some relevance, but is completely optional to getting where this book comes from.

>>88689835
You can start right here, just this.

>>88690049
I actually liked that as a first issue but turned off immediately with the more plot-y second issue which I thought both had a lame hook and some kinda bad sequencing? Also the Russian in the book was IIRC fairly terribly translated.

>>88690087
>>88690092

Thanks for the info anon! I guess I'll skip the previous volume and read the TAH and maybe read the CW2 since this series follows the conclusion of CW2. Maybe I'll wait and hope someone rips the digital trade. Either way, thanks for the info!

>>88690443
>he's going to read CW2
what have you done

>Both Jen and Carol's new books are good
Too bad about A-Force. Hopefully Singularity ends up with a good writer too.

>>88690115
I thought the whole first arc was weak aside from the first and last issues. I was going to drop it before six managed to catch my attention with a promising set-up for the second arc, which I've found enjoyable so far.

>>88688209
Game Freak can't into good character design anymore.

>>88690480
Maybe I'll get back into it. What's the second arc about?

>>88690567
The Weeping Lion is actually two people, the big guy and his telepathic brother. They want revenge on Widow because as part of her training as a child she killed their father and cut the big guy's throat(he survived because she didn't see the other brother sleeping in the back of the car and he got help). She's forcing the telepath to help her dismantle remnants of the Red Room. She doesn't seem to know about her connection to them.

>>88663156


Just imagine 12 issues with this same Jennifer Walter dilemmas
Marvel was much better in the 80s and 90s

>>88690709
Yeah. That would be two nice trades to put on the shelf.

>>88663259
Bradley is cute! CUTE!

>>88690931
>not just waiting for the HC that collect s all 12 issues
Do you even shelf porn?

>>88690473
I'm hoping Singularity becomes part of the Runaways and we get a new Runaways book. That'd probably be the best fit for her with A-Force gone.

>>88663567
that was fucking gay, thanks for wasting my time you loser

>>88663156
>not calling yourself "son of scanbro"
Why not follow the legacy? You post Marvel, at least do it correctly

>>88675790
In tie-ins maybe but in the main book Carol stops two catastrophes, is present (with Tony) when Hawkeye (unaffiliated with either) kills Banner and detains a woman without evidence.

Tony on the other hand gets mad that Thanos killed Rhodey, kidnaps Ulysses from the Inhumans, starts performing experiments on him, breaks out the women Carol was detaining, starts a pointless fight and then flies in shooting when Carol talks Miles down.

Of the two Carol's side has actually done a lot more good and Tony has just gone around starting useless fights.

>>88663382
That was her firms bread and butter, so yea.

>>88663567
Very good. I am pleasantly surprised.

>>88664539
It's only like 8 issues, which would be fine if it was done in 4 months instead of taking 20 months to do 8 issues or whatever they manage now.

>>88683164
Yeah, good call.