Superman And Batman Will Fight To Be Named Leader In Zack Snyder's

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>>88653651
Gross

>>88653651
neat thatd be nice to see

but does the JL even have a leader?

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I was panicking for a second but then I realized they will just verbally argue. Thank god. But what kind of bickering will there be, even? Superman is so fucking bland in MoS and BvS

>>88653651
When did the whole Batman is leader of the JL start? As far as I remember Bruce was equivalent to Spock, Clark was Kirk, and Diana was McCoy. Now Bruce is in charge? Not even Kings of the Batfags Dini and Timm had Bruce be the leader.

>>88653779
Well Batman would basically lay out the data and Supes would call the plays, but other than that everyone pretty much have a voice in how things were done
>>88653780
I expect the bickering to fall flat

>>88653780
>Superman is so fucking bland in MoS and BvS
i dont get this, Superman is a bit darker but hes still very Superman Bvs and MoS sucks but its still a pretty alright Superman

>humorous
I don't buy it

>>88653780
>BATMAN: "You're not cut out for the job. Just follow my lead."
>SUPERMAN: *stares* *broods silently* *destroys the city*

>>88653839
BvS was pretty "humorous" too.

>>88653651
>humorous
I thought DC had a strict "no jokes" policy?

>Big ass battle right after Supe is resurrected
>Batman gives out commands
>Superman: "Who died and made you the leader?"

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>>88653651

>>88653893
Snyder believes that his movies are subversive, but that casuals hated them for not being boring action movies, and he plans on changing that for Justice League.

This is a retarded argument, but you may recognize it as the one Snyderfags use to say that BvS was good.

>>88653979
snyder is in the weird position where he tries to make his movies artsy and profound while also trying to make massive, dumb, moneymaking action movies

>>88653847
That role reversal game is spot on

>>88653651
THIS HAS TO STOP.

SNYDER HAS TO BE STOPPED.

>>88653651

How? Superman died in BvS

>>88653847
>Looks like he's smelling a fart

>>88654299
Yeah, but on the third day he comes back.

>>88654299
not dead

>>88654299
Which in hindsight was fucking stupid to do SECOND MOVIE IN!

...But Batman is the one bringing the league together. Superman died specifically so that Batman could be the sole arbiter of the Justice League's founding. This was Snyder's exact logic; that whole seven samurai thing.

I give up.

>>88654059
And he ends up pleasing nobody

>>88654359
Because his idea of artistic is "Hey, isn't Superman kind of like Jesus?"

>>88654359

a lot of people liked the ultimate cut.

>>88653651
Why would anyone even suggest Syderverse Superman as the leader? He has done absolutely nothing even hint at leadership skills. He is constantly conflicted, overwhelmed and depressed. He barley had the will to put on his tights in BvS.

Will Batman be mad that Superman resurrected while his parents didn't?

>>88653808
No clue really. But the whole leader thing was stuff that the animated series was smart enough to ignore. In the first two seasons they were all equals, and in unlimited the first seven were basically the administrative council to the rest. They didn't have the power rest on one single person.

>>88654421
Not much.

>>88654353
Why would this Superman even care who the leader is.

>>88654431
>>88653651
It should be batman and aquaman arguing for leadership. Aquaman is the leader of a nation and batman is smart and stubborn. It would make wayyy more sense

>>88653651
>"Tell me, do you lead?"

>>88653651
nice use of spoilers there faggot
>>>/tv/

>>88654501
Given that the next line is "you will", it sounds more like Batman ceding leadership to Supes.

Oh god, they're not gonna argue about feeling underqualified to lead the league, will they?

>>88654421
>retards liked the ultimate cut

FTFY

So much like BvS this is going to be a cheap and unbelievable manufactured conflict the resolution of which is telegraphed before the movie is even out.

Spoiler alert. It's Batman. Batman is the leader.

>>88654518
The moive isnt even out yet how can there be spoilers? Do the trailers count as spoilers?

>>88654431
Yeah because Bruce showed great leader skills in BvS. He's a fucking dumbass that would get everyone killed.

>>88654500
>batman is smart
The Batman in this universe is a mentally retarded faggot and couldn't tell that Lex was playing him. The last thing we need is for a battle to be raging and for him to get triggered.

>>88653651
Only be good if they're arguing for each other. MoS Supes doesn't strike me as the guy who wants to lead the team after all that.

>>88653808
>When did the whole Batman is leader of the JL start?

When Batman really started becoming the cash cow for DC as far as movies and games go.

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I am think like goes this.

Batman: "I am dark the leader now! ME!"

Superman: "No! I die and am become more with power! I can leads! ME!"

Batman: "You are the fools! I knowing what leader is good! Company! Wayne Technocal! Hear of that, hey?!"

Superman: "Coward that is you are. Being of a coward. Inspiration I for all of them. Thank you. Goodbye."

Batman: "I am a Batman!"

Then all of the teams come mutual and agree that leader is whats best. Superman is being best you see of corse.

>>88654594
Ok aquman then. No complaints from me, honestly I think aquaman has the most leadership skills out of all of the JL.

>>88654659
Based on what? The only thing we know about Aquaman in the movie so far is that he talks to fish and gives fish to people out in the middle of nowhere.

>>88653860
When Jimmy Olsen was shot I was laughing pretty hard.

>>88654698
You are this jerk! NO! Jimmy laughing at die?! NO. No don't do this.

>>88654686
That already makes him the most likable member of the league. Snyder is the western Kishimoto; the more familiar with his characters we become the more contemptuous they are.

>>88654686
Ok buddy, if you're gonna go full autist and go soley based on what we've seen, I'd say batman because he had the initiative to gather up all of the members of the JL. Clearly he has shown more planning skills than anyone in the current universe besides waller.

>>88654786
And lex

>>88653651
I'd say Snyderfags would be pissed at the news of the films being funny, but we all know how quickly they flipped on the issue when it came to defending Suicide Squad.

>>88654431

On the other hand. Neither did bats.

>>88654786
I'm not going on "what we've seen". I'm going based on "the movies are a different universe entirely from the comics". Stating Aquaman has leadership skills when there's next to no information about this universe's Aquaman is retarded.

>>88653837
>Normie understanding of Superman

>>88653651
From the subject I thought they were gonna literally fight and be like "Bitches, you already fought a year ago."
But them bickering over who's the leader will be amusing

>>88654874
IS SUPERMAN!!!!

We all know it's going to be Batman

>>88654910
No. Is Superman. Lying.

>>88654910
It should be. He's a man of action that takes charge, Superman is purely reactionary.

Why the hell would DCEU Superman even care?

Like how is this supposed to go?

-Batman forms team
-Team dynamics happen
-Superman comes back by some bullshit
-"Hey, this is a team of supers I formed to protect Earth"
-"Wow, cool team you got here. I should lead"
-"What the fuck are you talking about man?"

IT DOESN'T WORK SNYDER! IT DOESN'T FUCKING WORK

>>88653651
I remember movies used to be special to me.
Now they are just spamming one capeshit after the other.

>>88654959
Ben Affleck's side penis can be seen briefly in Gone Girl.

>>88654831
Yeah but Batman is the one the company dickrides so it's pretty obviously going to be him.

This is like how before they were going THERE'S NO WAY BATMAN CAN WIN IN A FIGHT WITH SUPERMAN but look who's dead at the end of the movie. In fact, they tried painting Batman as the bad guy in BvS and it's still his paranoia that saves the day by making the weapon that destroys doomsday so in that way he was right too.

This is WB. All they know how to do is Batman. He's gonna be the leader and this is just a poor attempt at building hype.

>>88654831
Yeah but who's the frontrunner of the DCEU?

Hint: It's not the one who's sequel was pushed back to put Batman in

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>>88654959
I'm glad you like it, Anon! Here at DC Films, our fans are top priority.

>>88653651
>Superman And Batman Will Fight To Be Named Leader In Zack Snyder's JUSTICE LEAGUE


for me this guys are ultraman and owlman
they are the crime syndicate

>>88655017
Liar. Not true.

>>88654649
Thanks Bizarro, not sure what we'd do without you.

What will probably happen is a humorous inverse of the exchange between Cap and Tony during the big battle scene, where Tony says, "Call it, Captain."
Batman will start giving orders to everyone including Superman, who gives him a look, and Bruce turns it over to Clark, who gives the big rousing speech to the team.

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>>88653651
>another fight
>the reason is worse than the last
Kill it with fire

>>88655031
Trump pls go.

>>88655062
Can you read?

>>88655086
YOU WILL!

>>88655086
>>88655119
Im fucking dying

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>>88655119

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>>88653651
Clickbait titles in action.

>>88655056
>Snyderman
>Rousing speeches

>>88655245
>*Stares blankly*
>"This is our world."
>*Frowns*
>"Parademons had their chance."
>*Scowls*
>*Destroys the city*

Batman fighting Superman for the leadership makes no fucking sense.

Batman by the end of the movie was pretty much worshiping Superman's cock. The only reason he's creating a team is honor Superman's image and sacrifice.

Batman would probably be the first one to default the leadership and decisions to Superman, because Superman's new love or something.

I can see Aquaman or even Wonder Woman be distrustful of Superman, not Batman.

Goddamnit WB I know you were late on the train with the big superhero movie craze but did you have to go with someone as awful as Synder calling the shots? Marvel manages to turn shit into gold with GotG, and Snyder turns gold into shit.

I'd say fire him and start over, but by the time the NEW DC universe would get rolling the craze will have died down, and a lot of the actors you'd use would be too old.

>>88655400
They've got to keep rolling, they'd never get a wig for Cavill that was convincing in 4k UHD.

>>88654981

Come on, man. Why you got to lie like that?

Yes, Batman is DC most popular and lucrative character, but Superman is the mascot. DC would never make Superman look bad.

Superman's like Captain America. Even when he behaves like a jerk-ass, he's still right and treated as such.

Batman's usually shown as the ass that Superman takes pity on.

>>88655452
DC would never make Superman look bad.

WB would. DC is WB's bitch when it should be partner, like Marvel to Disney.

>>88655477

Nah, man. Superman is shown as a good who dindun nothing in BvS. Even Batman became his fan.

>>88655505
>Superman is shown as a good who dindun nothing in BvS.


Which is kind of weird, because the movie pointed out that he has a big tendency to be insane and deluded, and also becoming an overlord.

>>88655505
But MoS happened already.

>>88655545

That's just Batman after watching too much Mad Max. They'll probably say that Batman's infected by Darkseid.

>>88655546

That's what i said he dindun nothing.

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>>88655452
>DC would never make Superman look bad.
>Looses fight with Batman then gets killed off so Batman can create the Justice League

Yeah okay Batshill.

>>88655581

Superman wasn't trying to fight Batman and died saving everyone. Batman is creating the Justice League after being inspired by Superman and now his entire new leaf is about making Superman proud.

Come on.

>>88655612
Look I'm not saying Bruce came off as a Marysue in this movie because Snyder couldn't even get that right. But Bruce both walking away to fight another day couple with Clark getting killed off in his SECOND movie is in no way some good thing. Most people walked away talking about how badass Bruce is and shit and that was by design.

>>88654594
Batman was emotionally unstable and focused on his crusade on Superman.
He is fine when he is unstable and focusef on his crusade on crime

How far will WB dig the hole? At what point will they say "yeah we fucked up"? Because the foundation of this entire universe is built on salt pillars

>>88655677

Because most people are Batfags and also because Batman haven't had a good fight scene since... since ever. Nolan's films had terrible fight scenes.

But Superman in the same movie did tons of cool shit. Fuck, you had him and Doomsday pulling a DBZ moment where they blasted each other will full force.

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>>88655691
When they can't even add Batman and get to the $750 million mark.
That'll be when the Batman reboot happens.

>>88655442
Bullshit, Chris Evans has worn a wig for the last three Cap appearances.

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The guys at CBR forums are saying that Superman and Batman are actually fighting to see who have the right to mate with Wonder Woman and that Batman will lose because he's a weak human. Also that Lois is a bitch that will probably hang herself.

I like their take better. It reminds me of those artsy french movies.

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>>88655723
Yeah, Superman's OPTIC BLAST vs Doomsday's (Doomsday Cannon? I got nothing) sure was great shit.

>>88654599
Yeah, also it should be ending banter, not pre-climax.

>I formed this team because of you, so you should lead us
>But you got them all together, I didn't do anything
>WW: He had help
>Aquaman: I should lead, I rule over most of the planet
>Flash: Quip about three-fourths of Earth being water
>Cyborg: Booyah

>>88655759
And unlike BvS, none of the Marvel films are mastered in 4k.

>>88655723
>since ever.
Tim Burton's Batman had some good scenes. Batman climbing the tower and fighting Joker's final minions was amazing.

>>88655741
>tfw this picture isn't even a joke anymore

>>88655581
Okay I gotta play with that in mind.

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>>88655808
Honestly, only the first two films are likely to actually get made, and last I heard they can't keep anyone except Mamoa (pictured) attached to the Aquaman film.

>>88655808
I want so much want some Booyah. But we're gonna get mopey Cyborg.

>>88655842
That movie will never get made, I'd bet both my kidneys on it.
Both of WB's Black Superhero movies cratered mightily in theaters.

>>88655790
That version of -psycho bats was great. Bruce Wayne clearly being a sociopath.

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>>88655867
>Bruce Wayne clearly being a sociopath.
Well no shit, he's a billionaire who designed fetish-wear and a rocket car to pummel hoodlums.

If Bill Gates family was murdered by local crime he'd just build Robocops.

>>88655898
Yea but there is a certain charm to a smiling Batman who tosses dudes off buildings to their death

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They're not learning their lesson are they?

>>88655834
Dreiberg was cast as Orm
Dafoe will return

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>>88655960
They've learned that absolute drek with Batman featured in it is good for a shit-ton of money.

Fuck, DC comics could have told them that at the beginning.

>>88655741
It's frustrating that WB has it in their heads that Batman is the only thing people come to see. They need to slap the rich fucker on every other character because they think it won't be enough, it's evident in their current animated movies. Hell Marvel makes normies care about Ant Man and Dr Strange for god sake.

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>>88655991
But my precious Beware the Batman still died before its time. Explain that, jack!

This doesn't make any sense.

It seems they want to copy the first Avengers, where Cap and Iron Man had a bit of posturing going on, but there it fit because Tony despise the manner his father held Cap in a pedestal.

In BvS Batman regain his hope in heroism because of Superman, he strive to be and do better as a hero because of Superman, he's forming the Justice League to atone because of Superman, he's doing everything because of Superman.

So why the fuck would he fight Superman over who should lead the JL? He should be the first one to cry little girl tears once Superman comes back.

>>88656031

>They need to slap the rich fucker on every other character because they think it won't be enough

They're right, though.

>>88655766
>going to CBR

Please neck yourself

>>88656031
Iron Man gets put in everything. Your holy Marvel movies are no different compared to what DC is doing.

>>88656046
Animated superhero movies and series are basically WB throwing away money, particularly when they are being overcharged for CGI instead of just having it done by South Korean homeless people.

>>88656046
Stu Snyder was growing senile by then. It's nothing personal.

Just make a big ruckus at DC and buy the DVD/BluRay. It worked for YJ.

>>88656078
Where was he in Thor 1 & 2, Ant-Man, Guardians of the Galaxy, Doctor Strange....

They jammed Batman into Suicide Squad of all movies, which amusingly demonstrated that Batman could easily stomp all of them individually. Making one wonder why they didn't just shine the Bat-Signal.

>>88656046
Company squabbles. Cartoon Network didn't want to run things that were their product and Mattel didn't want to make female figures. Because they were pitching their own toy line / shows.

>>88656114
I forgot Winter Soldier.

>>88656114

>They jammed Batman into Suicide Squad of all movies

They jammed Tony Stark at the end of The Incredible Hulk in the same manner, though.

>>88656051
I think you're imagining this argument to be a lot more heated than it will most likely be. It's probably just some banter between the two.

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>>88656158
In the after credits teaser?
Was that where Batman was hiding?

Iron Man has been in 3 Iron Man movies, both Avengers movies and Civil War as the heel.

>>88655452
>Yes, Batman is DC most popular and lucrative character, but Superman is the mascot.
DC short for Detective Comics.
Superman ain't the detective.

>>88656078
You act like Marvelfags aren't sick of that shit too.

>>88654759
>Western kishimoto
You mean he can't write women for shit?

>>88655612
>Superman wasn't trying to fight Batman and died saving everyone.
Superman only saved everyone because he used a weapon that Batman made. He wasn't a hero, he was a tool.

>>88656189

Superman is certainly the Mickey Mouse, bro. Batman is the Donald Duck.

>>88653837

Idk man, I just didn't connect with this Superman. Even when he died all I felt was "oh, they actually killed him off in the 2nd movie".

>>88656158
That was the second of the still new Cinematic Universe, they had to signal that it was tied together. It's not a fucking secret for the DCEU, MoS wasn't supposed to start it but WB panicked.

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So it is true; reddit has claimed possession of this site.

Do the world a favour this Christmas and neck yourselves.

>>88656185

This. Cap has been in more movies than Iron Man.

>>88656214
You are out of your mind.

>>88656197
>hating on based Iron Man
pure hipster. Tony and Peter were great together in Civil War, can't wait for Homecoming.

>>88656226

Same thing, bro.

>>88654831
>>88654431

Realistically, it should be either Wonder Woman or Aquaman who are the leaders. Both have a wealth of life experience in a way that none of the other Leaguers do and presumably have led people in life-or-death situations before. Neither the DCEU Supes or Bats is cut out to be a leader. They're both chronic loners.

>>88656210
If anything he's even worse than Kishi in that regard. I can at least kind of see the appeal to Hinata but Suckerpunch? Nah bro, nah.

>>88656239

Am i? AM I?

Now's probably a bad time to mention that Black Canary was chair of the Justice League.

>>88656214
Let's say I agree with you and Batman is the Donald Duck. You know what that means? That means he's the character the actually USE more for decades at a time and Superman gets thrown to the wayside nine times out of ten.

Even in your own metaphor you can't keep from admitting they throw Superman under the bus and put Batman on a pedestal.

>>88656258
Hey now, DCEU Batman has led at least one partner to his death...

>>88656291

No, man. You fail to see the light.

Batman's more popular and thus used more.
Superman's the "first" and the iconic one and so he's always shown as a saint. He might not show up often, but when it happens every character sucks his cock.

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>>88656291
pre-1986 Superman was the Big Guy, with 4 movies and television and animation going back decades.
Ever since The Dark Knight Returns '86 and Batman '89 the show has belonged to Batman.

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King

>>88656339
>He might not show up often, but when it happens every character sucks his cock.
Snyderverse says otherwise.

>>88656405

Every one sucked his dead cock when he died.

The most well-recieved Superman comic of the last decade was a heel turn where even Alfred took his turn beating the shit out of him.

Superman Returns turned him into Man of Beta, which is still better than what Snyder has done to him.

His last television appearance was a walk-on on Supergirl's show.

Superman is super-low right now.
Cavill would probably walk away from it and bald in peace, but he has nothing else going for him.

>>88656244
Yeah way to twist my words faggot. I like Tony as much as the next guy, but does he really need to be in Homecoming? There is such a thing as overexposure

>>88656376
of kino

>>88656548
Stupid dumb hipster scum

>>88656376
Of shallow pretense.

>>88656602
>Hipster
You don't even know what that means do you?

>>88656267
People are going to start waifufagging wonderwoman aren't they?

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>>88656636
>diana wasn't his waifu already
pfft

>>88656636
Nah.

>>88656634
Two responses out of you! I made you mad! Owned! Hahaha!

>>88656708
More confused really. Don't mind handing out (you)s

>DC is sonic
How accurate is this?

>>88656768
Pretty accurate BvS was literally sonic adventure 2

>>88655856
Cyborg got canceled and he was dissolved into The Flash movie.

The Flash movie also looks like it's canceled since there's still no director attached.

>>88653651
This ship is falling apart already and they're only a few movies in. They really need a win with the WW movie.

>>88656801
arent they filming in january though

>>88656750
Give me one more!

>>88656660
Taking them off or helping her put them on?

>>88656801
Flash director quit when he found out he had to make a Flash/Cyborg movie work.

>>88656943
Wait til the next one finds out that he has to add Batman to get anyone to watch it.

>>88656943
>>88656965
Any hope for the DC cinematic universe at all?

>>88653808

Martian Manhunter is more like Spock.

>>88657016
No.
Out of curiosity what is the solo Bats movie even about, have they decided yet?

>>88657137
Attempting to make a billion dollars again, I think.

>>88656801
>Cyborg got canceled and he was dissolved into The Flash movie.

It actually wasn't.

>>88656425

ONLY when he died. Superman barely speaks and his emoting isn't the best, which means to the average audience member Superman comes across as a cypher. Lois tells him who he should be, Ma Kent tells him who to be, Pa Kent tells him who to be, Lex and Batman both say who they THINK Superman is, but we never hear from the man himself who he is. The scene I was looking forward to most was Superman speaking in the courtroom, but Snyder thought it would be a good idea if we never gave Superman a chance to explain himself to the world.

And now the League's being made without him. Call it what you want, but Superman's clearly being sidelined in favor of Batman. If you want to see how much Superman's brand has dropped, take a look at Supergirl. Now I had no problem with Superman's portrayal in the show, but the fact that WB allowed a CW show to use the cornerstone of their DCEU as a fucking side character shows you how much he was devalued after BvS.

>>88655856
>Both of WB's Black Superhero movies cratered mightily in theaters.

What are you referring to?

>>88656836
Not going to happen and they're expecting it. Justice League is going all in

>>88657314

>Call it what you want, but Superman's clearly being sidelined in favor of Batman.

They pushed Batman because MoS wasn't the success they expected and even then they used Batman as if he was the villain.

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>>88657349
Steel -$15 million dollars against budget
Catwoman -$18 million dollars against budget

>>88657016
Not really, no.

>>88657423
To be fair, those had nothing to do with the star being black and everything to do with both being irredeemable piles of trash.

>>88658114
That's not how execs see it at all

>>88657255
>It actually wasn't.
Yes it was.

>>88657402
>even then they used Batman as if he was the villain.
>Was right 99% of the time, despite not deserving it due to rampant stupidity.
>Engineers the defeat of the villain
>Gets all the character development

>>88657402
>They pushed Batman because MoS wasn't the success they expected
It wasn't the success they expected because they halfassed it
They halfassed it becaue WB doesn't give shit about Superman. They made the movie to hedge their legal bets. Man of Steel exists ultimately for the same reason Tranktastic Four does, and here you're trying to convince us the character doesn't have an anchor around his neck while Batman gets put on a pedestal.

>>88658427

>They made the movie to hedge their legal bets.

That was McG's Superman movie.

The MoS movie came out from David Goyer and Christopher Nolan's passion for the project.

>>88654421
Too bad that wasn't what we saw in theaters and it only marginally fixed the issues surrounding it.

>>88653651
Oh for fuck sake.

>>88657016
No, it's kill.

>>88659251
It can be resurrected. Like Superman.

>>88656247
Not even, bro.

>>88658607
Ahuh. And Snyder got attached why?

>>88653651
>yeah well Flash hasn't killed anyone yet so he should be leader!

>>88653847
*dabs*
*posts on iFunny*

>>88659460
Superman confirmed leader.

>>88654599
>>88655786
I'd say this is about right.

>>88659460
Bats needs a hat too.
It can be a smaller one.

>>88659305
No, it's kill. As long as Snyder is at the helm, it will always just be slightly less than average at best.

>>88655119
This is some quality kino right here. You might just be the next top Snyder.

>>88659350

Nolan chose him because he had no plans to direct it. He was doing TDKR

>>88659911
And the Schuster estate lawsuit deadline had nothing to do with it, right?

>>88659944
Even without the deadline and had Warner Brothers really wanted to make a good Superman movie, what else would they have done? Asking Nolan for advice was probably the most rational decision.

>>88659911
Rises was a disappointment and his decision is what birthed the horrible Snyderverse. Can these sins ever be forgiven?

>>88659911

>Nolan chose him

What? No.

WB chose him because he was the only director who agreed not to do major rewrites to Goyer's script. They were on a tight deadline due to the legal battle and needed it out as fast as they could, so they needed a guy who wouldn't want to take an extra month or two to fix the terrible screenplay they were stuck with.

Snyder literally got the job because he was the easiest whore WB could hire on short notice.

Nolan didn't choose shit.

>>88660313
Source?

>>88660313
WB passed on other directors because they wanted to do a version of Superman that was even more different from the mainstream than Snyders.

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>>88659653

>>88653779

Yes. Superman is the leader. He's the one who tells the league where they're going while Batman tells them how they will get there. It's supposed to be a committee but when Supes and Bats want something the rest of the leagues views are irrelevant.

>>88660313

That is a lie. Where did you get that shit from?

Go read all the interviews given by Christopher Nolan, David S. Goyer and Zack Snyder during the release of MoS.

Yes, Warner Bros was trying to quickly release a Superman movie, but that wasn't MoS. It was some other project.

David S. Goyer at the time was doing the TDKR script, but was suffering a writer's block. So pass his time he toyed with a sci-fi take on Superman. This is was what eventually became the MoS script.

So Goyer took his little script and showed Christopher Nolan during their meetings about TDKR. Nolan loved the script and decided to set up a meeting with the Warner Bros executives to see if they could to this script into a movie.

So Nolan brought Goyer with him and showed the script. The WB's executives didn't even cared about the script. All that mattered was that Nolan wanted to do a Superman movie and that their asses were saved. So the Superman movie they were doing was scrapped pronto and in it's place they went with Goyer's script.

Since Nolan was going to film TDKR soon he turned down all the offers for him to direct MoS, which the executives begged for. So instead he only helped produced the project.

In the end it was Nolan who chose Zack Snyder, out of all the directors associted with WB, because of his work on 300 and Watchmen. So Nolan and Goyer got in contacted with Snyder.

Initially Snyder wasn't sure about doing a Superman movie as he wanted to his dream passion which was an adaptation of Atlas Shrugged, but after long talks Snyder with Nolan and Goyer he accepted.

Lots of things from the previous Superman movie that was scrapped in favor for MoS was reused in MoS.

Also, Nolan, Goyer and Snyder all wanted different things out of MoS. Nolan was more interested about Krypton and the first-contact type of story, Goyer wanted a romance that had Lois as a protagonist trying to uncover Superman's past and Snyder just wanted elaborated cool fighting scenes.

>>88660788

Oh, and MoS wasn't supposed to start a cinematic universe. Nolan was 100% against it.

Snyder and WB's executives asked him to show an after credit scene where some kryptonite are sent to Wayner Manor's front door, as a tease, but he vetoed.

The only idea Nolan was kinda OK with was to do a prequel that took place entirely on Krypton and had Russel Crowe taking names and kicking butts as Jor-El. Nolan really, REALLY loved Krypton.

Goyer later took his and Nolan ideas for this prequel to rework it as a TV show, but i haven't heard about it anymore. So they probably cancel that shit as well.

>>88653780

Also that neither one of them really has a moral leg to stand on.

>>88654786

>Waller

>Uses unstable god witch on an unstable team

>Has no real plan for when she gets out of her control

>Let's her get out of her control in the first place

I love some Viola Davis, but Waller was goddamned incompetent in that movie. She was all anger, with no actual intelligence.

>>88653930
underrated

>>88656284
Seriously though, the league is managed democratically with all members getting an equal vote.

And Black Canary was chairperson. Leading the League is not an important position. There's literally no reason to fight over it unless it's to get out of it. It's an arbitrary bureaucratic position designed to make meetings proceed smoothly.

>>88653651
>Wonder Woman shoves them to the side
>"Step aside, fuckboys!"
>everyone in the audience starts squirting

>>88653930
>Batman: My parents. Who died, needlessly, in a tornado, and made you an asshole?

>>88661648

There's a reason why the Founders are called the Founders. They vote on things democratically.

Batman's usually just their tactician while Superman assumes a more spoke-person role.

>>88661670
>implying there will be people in the audience

>>88661684
>even Gal Gadot's mom is sick of this shit

>>88660788
>>88660930
This seems more consistent with well known and easily verifiable facts. Many interviews do indeed back this up, but what was the other project? What happened to it?

Is it really true that Nolan advised Snyder not to kill Superman?

>>88661702

The previous Superman movie? I Think it was McG's Superman. I've to search more to confirm, but i'm pretty sure.

>>88661648
>There's literally no reason to fight over it unless it's to get out of it.
Batman will say Superman is the leader because he's the best hero and inspires everyone. Superman will say Batman is the leader because he was pivotal in getting everyone together. They laugh about it and decide that they're all the leaders.

>>88660930
>Goyer later took his and Nolan ideas for this prequel to rework it as a TV show, but i haven't heard about it anymore. So they probably cancel that shit as well.
Its going to be on SyFy and the cast was already announced. The fact that you don't know this makes me question the veracity of all of your claims. You also left out the easily googled part where Nolan opposed the ending to MoS which makes me question your biases.

>>88661717
Nolan advised Snyder not to have Superman kill Zod. He was already out by BvS.

>>88661785
It sounded more like he was stating that the marketing isn't doing much, since he said "anymore." I haven't heard any new news either. No idea when it's coming out. I wouldn't be surprised if it got canceled after 1 season.

>>88661785

Why would i talk about the movie's plot point when i'm talking about the production not the story? And how the fuck would i know that Goyer is still going on about his dumb prequel when i stopped checking news about it?

If you doubt all the things i typed, why don't you go do a search? The interviews are there. Here's one for you:

http://collider.com/david-s-goyer-man-of-steel-interview/

>Chris [Nolan] and I were working on The Dark Knight Rises and we reached writers’ block. Chris said, “Let’s break for a week and just clear our palettes and then come back.” I was tooling around in my office and I just picked up some old Superman comic books, started reading them. For about an afternoon I just had this notion for a Superman story. At this point, I think they were developing another version with someone else anyway, so I just randomly wrote a couple of pages, maybe three or four pages of a Superman movie. Without giving too many spoilers away, it just occurred to me that the story that I was interested in seeing was the story that was about — we knew Kal was an alien, but what made him actually assume this Superman identity and put on a costume? What made him decide, “Oh, I’m going to actually present myself to the world and be a superhero”?

Is this good enough proof for you? You can do a Google search to check the rest i wrote.

So the question remains. Why is this guy: >>88660313
trying to lie about the DC and WB production process? Is he getting paid or what?

>>88661822

>I had this experience when we were at DC where I said to Paul Levitz at the time, they call them scallops on Batman’s gauntlet. I pointed to a poster and I said, “What are those?” He said, “Oh they’re just design features.” Chris said, “Bulls**t.” He said, “There can’t be anything on Batman’s costume that’s a design feature.” He said, “Goyer, figure out something. ” So I said, “Okay, what if they’re metal gauntlets and he can use them both offensively and defensively to trap weapons?” Chris said, “Done.” So, but that’s sort of the way Chris approaches everything. He’ll never do anything just because it looks cool. There has to be a utility.

Nolan is fucking autistic.

>>88660660
Ollie was right.

>>88653808
He's always been leader
He is the money and the tactical mind behind the group

>>88660660
This.

>>88653651
>fun
>snyder

uhuhuhuhuhuhuhu no, fuck DCCU and snyders justice lords

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>>88663030
The Justice League barely uses tactics or slick combinations of powers, because the team generally has a few Overgods on the team who have absolutely no need for assistance or backup. Then you have a few characters like Elongated Man and Batman who "figure out the secret plot" because for raisins the guys with Telelpathy/X-Ray Vison/Magical Divination can't be bothered to use those powers.

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>>88663030
the last thing Batman was ever leader of was The Outsiders and he was shit at it.

Post Crisis Batman was never the leader of anything and 52 has absolutely never been the leader of any group.

Batman will take charge when he has to but that's all. The JLA is a council and Superman flat out refused to join for a long time because he said he doesn't need anyone else.

There is no leader, it is a team that works together.

>>88663106

>the last thing Batman was ever leader of was The Outsiders and he was shit at it.

They were great.

>>88653651
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>>88661973
I'm fairly sure Miller already did that since he draws them as rectangles not scallops.

But that's the autism we need instead of Synder's autism.

>>88660788
>his dream passion which was an adaptation of Atlas Shrugged
Is there a single level of existance in which Zach Snyder isn't a tasteless bitch?

>>88653651
Superman is a schizophrenic and Batman is a psychopath. None are a good choice for leader.

>>88657423
>We will never get Halle Berry as Darwn Cooke Catwoman