/trash/ tier animation on youtube?

I feel you OP

As someone who wants a Animator to do work for me 99% I find on the tubes is shit only some of it I consider to be high quality

>>88627390
>animation on youtube
>art style that takes no effort to animate.
I think you answere your own question.

The alternative is the Harry Patridge who barrelly put out one video by year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjwuoGPXWF0

>>88627390

>the popular ones all have this shity art style that takes no effort to animate

I don't really watch Youtube animations, do you have any examples?

>>88627448

This looks pretty good

Would probably cost me all the money I have just to get this guy to animate me something I want but it be great to have this level of talent.

You do know that TO1IO is more of a vlog than some animation, right? It's more about the stories he talks about than the animation.

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>>88627461

<-- Here is an example from something from YouTube that is of High Quality

Basically what >>88627448 said.

It can either look good and YouTube's algorithm won't play nice with it or it can look extremely simplistic and get pumped out with enough frequency that it'll get popular.

>>88627507
Looks good, who is it?

>>88627499

It should be more dedicated to the latter because if you're like me that should be the only thing that matters

>>88627483
if you need someone to do some work doesn't hurt send him a message. You never know

>>88627507
That's actually pretty cute. Smooth too; not perfect, but good. Gotta link?

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>>88627536

Someone from France is all I know if I knew the person who made it i'd study French just to ask her to animate more of her.

>>88627507
That looks like shit.
What happened to all the realist animators of the 90s?

>>88627538
Welp, I do like youtube animations. But I don't watch this animated vlogs for the animation. Sorry if I don't think like that.

this is what gets popular on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-R2ml6OHC4

>>88627390
Because it's taken us over a decade to realize that the internet is perhaps the worst platform for media ever invented.

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>>88627552
>>88627562
>>88627531

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz2IFuUjma8&list=WL&index=25

Usine Abbatoir

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>>88627583

T.John K don't you have a kickstarter to not finish?

>>88627586

Your priorities are outta line.

I like Ukino Joe

pls no bully

>>88627602

Seen that music video before and love it but it's not something that can be churned out regularly enough for it to matter is it?

>>88627629
Welp, I guess that's just my opinion. Don't get me wrong, I love me some nice Internet animations. But I don't watch this domics-style vids for the animation.

>>88627593
t. grandpa

>>88627390
i hate those youtubers that just make drawings that squash and stretch between each other. Fuckers thats just a slideshow with extra steps that's not animation.

Shit like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzdZPPuo0C0

>>88627390
Because YouTube fucked over most animators, before the videogame push animations were super popular
Yes now animations get a million views maybe two but that was also the case years ago and videogame videos get tens of millions sometimes

>>88627632
https://youtu.be/nNpW8KZOVhw

Best video

>>88627716
oh man i wish vidme/vimeo could end with Youtube forever, but that can only happen if they get money from Facebook or Microsoft, there's no way they can compete with Google alone.

>>88627805
We should kill everyone involved with Google
They are too powerful to have human rights

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>>88627716
>Pewdiepie probably makes six digits a year just for playing some shitty indie games every once in a while
The nightmare swirls and churns unending

>>88627842
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRAFWF3LJnw

look at this shit, it's so forced and awkward, they don't care about us anymore

>>88627390

theodd1sout can't even be considered an "animator" its more like fun stories with pictures.

also he is LITERALLY a child. so I cant get mad at stupid kids making stupid content

but as for people who make those pokemon/mario/fnaf parodies I have no clue, though the fact that they get made every other day means no time for quality

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO8I6gnZhAM

>>88627583
3D animation killed their entire profession.

>>88627507
That isn't what would be considered high quality on youtube

THIS is high quality
https://youtu.be/vbMQfaG6lo8

>>88627390
I've never watched any of those videos by I get recommended to them all the time.

Let me guess, they are videos with a cutesy art style, but UH OH, they are actually about "depression" and "anxiety" that I can relate too?

>>88629244
no its "storeys" that never happened.

>>88629244
Nah, just random stories

Piemations and Max G are the only ones i know of that are still pretty successful on youtube

>>88629280
>>88629290
so green text shit from /r9k/ but for normal people?

>>88629343
No, he just tells stories

Nothing extremely relatable

it's not that bad

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>>88627904
PewDiePie makes 7 mil a year faggot.

>>88627390

Easily explained by dumb kids.

The real question is why there are so many Warriorcats animations made in MSpaint?

>>88627904
I am genuinely jealous. I wish I get that kind of money from playing video games.

Because people don't watch them FOR the animation. People watch them for the WORDSWORDS and a semi relevant accompanying image.

Here's the hierarchy of importance:
>what's actually being said
>the voice acting/how people say it
>what the picture is actually of
>how good the picture looks still/the artstyle
>how well the picture is animated

There's a reason they almost never use sight gags. There's a reason the comments are always always quotes from the video. That's the actually important thing, funny quotable dialogue people can repeat as humourous nonsequitrs. "memetics" quality.

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>>88629393
>7 million a year
Something went horribly wrong and I ended up in a reality I'm not supposed to be in, I wanna go back.

>>88627390
OddScout honestly just feels more like a v-blog channel than anything, dont really follow his stuff but he seems nice enough, not trying to push anything and just doing what he wants.

If you want to talk about hackjob animations Jaltoid is pretty shitty in terms of actual animation skills.

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>>88629637
LOL

>>88629735
oh of course he did.

Changes in YouTube's algorithm and people's tastes as they grow older are making it more difficult for long-form non-"viral" content to get discovered. Short-term clickbait that attracts tweens is what's in now.

>>88629637
Jaltoid is pretty nice though

>>88627697
It's terrible for anyone who makes actual art.

Notice how every creator on youtube whores out to advertisers and shills their patrion constantly? It's because without that shit they literally would not be able to make content.

Note how anime almost died in the West because of how overreliant the community became on fansubbing, and how even still niche targeting moeblob/light novel adaptations are the norm.

Or how everyone of the old animators has either died, dissappeared, or started a gaming channel, because gaming channels are the best avenue for cheap easily made content with a garunteed following.

Or how anal the music, film, and tv buisnesses have gotten about piracy as of late, or how Hollywood is centralizing power in a few big tentpole productions every year, draining more originality out of the system.

The internet is terrible because no one pays for anything. Only now with the rise of Netflix and Crunchyroll are a few industries starting to sort of recover.

JaidenAnimations is way better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bQWxtoCav4

>>88629837
Pretty much this. Furthermore animations don't earn anything unless they are long, like 10 minutes+ long. '

Bassicly say you have a minute long animation with 100% watch time ( everyone watched it fully).

For the time it took you to make it, and for that entire month when you uploaded you have one minute of watch time (even with a million views).

On the contrary take a letsplay that uploads say one video a day for 30 days, and each being 20 minutes long. Even if that video has 10-30% watch rate, that's still 1 to 3 minutes per video for the month (compounded times 30).

So even if it has less views per video, combined together with all the other videos it's far more lucrative (and after 10 minutes you get an option to use midroll ads which pay the higest, but have a 10 minute mark requirement).

So your only options are either shit out low quality whatever that rides memes or only do it as a passion project uploading once a year or less.

Pre 2013 a 1 minute animation with millions of views was very sustainable, and that's why so many animations channels existed. It's also why channels like frederator stopped doing animations and instead are now doing entirely top 107 lists.

So cause of this many animators have switched to just that, vlog style limited "animation" that will get the required length and $.

>>88627390
watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi6FcI2wFrw&t=8s
Things like kurzgesagt only survive thanks to patreon because youtube is so volatile and against content that isn't pumped out like a machine gun. those things your are calling animations are not animations, they are more like simple comic pages with dubbing and honestly when you look at them from that point of view it's less disappointing.

will Newgrounds ever be relevant again?

>>88630399
lol no

>>88630399
They barely can pay the bills and even fulp had to move the servers and do a patreon like service to stay afloat.

Furthermore they are now removing anything with copyrighted music which kinda kills any point in the site.

>>88630399
for animation? no
for flash video games, yup.

>>88630025
It's a shame Frederator stopped showing their new animations on youtube and instead started making them watchable through apps.

I've been partnered with Frederator for about a year and after all this time, it seems like they're finally starting to find their feet again. The only thing I wish is that the network would put more of us animators in the spotlight.

>>88631750
They are resuming doing that spotlight stuff. A ton of the channel stuff left after they started the restructure and merged with that other animation company.

>>88631794
That's good to hear. I had my stuff shown a couple times on their channel and it's the only reason why I have more than one subscriber.

There are a ton of talented people out there who deserve some recognition and Frederator is a decent place to get your name out.

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>>88627583
Bro, it's 2016. Stop talking about the fucking 90s already.

>>88631955
Do you think people will trust Frederator after the Bee and Puppycat fiasco?

>>88629391
Ratboy genius is fuckin' GOAT.
And the guy is a very talented pianist/composer. A lot of people really fell for the uncanny valley meme and can't see the beauty of it.

>>88632286
Some people won't be eager to pitch their ideas now, but I'm sure there are many who would still take that opportunity in a heartbeat.

And even though Bee and Puppycat was handled poorly, I think there are a lot in the community, including myself, who still respect Frederator. Sometimes there are hiccups. Not much you can do about it.

>>88632036
>Bro, it's 2016.
don't say that, this phrase is why we are in our current position.

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>>88629393
>7 mil a year
off to kill myself

>>88632458
Ha, ha!
It was all merely a trick!

>>88632458
Am I wrong? The 90s ended 16 years ago. It's time to move the fuck on.

>>88627390
He's not even an animator baka senpai

>>88627904
He's been doing original content recently, I unironically watched his whole "war with Youtube" saga

What about Morning Drawfee?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-seFE9w4-Uo

>>88627757
Ukinojoe is a treasure

>>88633015
I'll admit I lost it at the Hitler shit during the Youtube Heroes video

Speaking of, what exactly was the fucking point of the Heroes program in the first place?

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Does anybody else watch Any Malu
It's has great animation for a web series (but it is a whole studio working on it )
It's in Portuguese but most of the videos have English captions.
(Plus they're some pretty cute girls in it)
https://youtu.be/5chQq80OdZQ

>>88627593
The internet model is the best thing that happened to music. Literally anyone can upload their songs instead of having to suck up a label's dick to get recorded.

>>88629994
Yet Crunchyroll had its beginning letting you watch other people's intellectual property without their consent.

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>>88629888
They are utter trash interms of content. I personality hate the super tweeny as fuck animation. Its fine if you do tweens like Lion Guard and Rick and Morty thats very unnoticeable.
It feels very cheap when these two JUST tween without filling in their own inbetweens manually and just looks like puppets.

>>88633976
>The internet model is the best thing that happened to music.

And then they ruined it for everyone else when artists threw a bitch fit over Napster and enforced copyright online.

>>88633925
It has a whole studio working on it, wich makea money with other stuff too. Just like the french video; it's not really a "youtube video", it was made by a team of people, who are out of the gobelins for the singer. Animation costs a lot and take ages, that's why I respect people like pebbles or whatnot who don't come from big schools and do it alone, you can't really blame them

>>88634322
Napster was a drop in the bucket. By the time it died, you had people sharing shit in all sorts of ways. Napster merely gave people the idea mp3's were a thing. You had people ready to swap files with MSN Messenger, AIM, IRC, Kazaa, etc. Now we have streams and sound clouds, the shitty kind of music no longer rules over what people have access to. The online distribution just makes it so every genre, no matter what you like, can be heard.

>>88635706
In Brazil, the only animated projects that come out are commercial most of the time. Rarely people from the outside like cn would give some money. The rich people in brazil are all retarded anyway. And in France, only kid shows come out or semi intellectual bullshit. The people have no working experience and all come from billion euros schools. At least on youtube they have some kind of independance from this shitshow

>>88634239
Why are the gfs/wives of online "celebrities" horrifically ugly like 90% of the time?

>>88636319
They married it, so you don't have to.

>>88634239
R&M doesn't do tweens per say, the animations is on twos and so it feels sorta "right" over tweens. The only time it's FBF/tweened is if they are walking and the camera is panning to prevent the stuttering effect in motion.

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i can't tell
is this good animation
or is it too problematic?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HATLQEqLTf0

>>88634239
i remember when /co/ found out what they truly looked like

it was great

>>88629280
Sometimes things actually happen to people who leave their houses, anon.

youtube shoves quantity over quality. So people find the bad ones.

I think most indie guys can't finish more than a few minutes of animation in a month, so you would almost never see them in Youtube's "recommended" feed. There is some great stuff out there if you went to an animation school and know where the really good students posted their projects.

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They're watching us /co/

>>88627390
Because single-artists animation products take for FUCKING ever to make and youtube popularity is about consistency over quality.

>>88629244
He's just some guy who talks about his life and makes comics on the side, it's not that deep f a m.

>>88637549
We really do just repeat ourselves to death over Jaltoid. Throw in a complaint about their animation, mix in some "the green one is ugly" and some "they're not even that good".

I depressed myself. :(

>>88639358
>>88637549

Is this why the jaltoid thread from earlier was deleted?

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My friend and I thought about doing something similar to nockforce. Too bad he's too fucking mean spirited to make fun content with ;_;

>>88627390
Because making a good animation takes months and YouTube fucked animators over.

Animation isn't easy.

And TheOdd1sOut isn't a bad person.

>>88628988
I thought that he was 22 years old. I'm pretty sure that he said that he was 22. Or 21.

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>>88632458
Let me translate that for you into 4chan:

> 2015+1
> still talking about the fucking 90ies

ISHYGDDT

>>88627805
Well amazon trying to compete with YouTube since they purchased twitch and Microsoft bought beam to compete with twitch and YouTube gaming so it might happen soon they need to be successful

>>88629637
What about jazz he does tutorial on animation

>>88627426
you better be rich

>>88641229
Jazza is more businessman than animator. The only animation I know from him is The Tale Teller.

>>88642501
forgot to add "good animation"

>>88633121
You're green with it!

>>88628988
3LAMESTUDIO's a fucking genius.

>>88642829

Not really, I get its all a big parody but it's not even the funny kind. He dosent get views despite he's suppose to be a "kids" type channel that usually get millions of hits and the videos themselves are a bit to far on the trying to hard scale to be enjoyable.

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>>88627390
Does /co/ like this beta?

>>88627583
>What happened to all the realist animators of the 90s?
Which ones?

>>88634239
I actually like their videos.

why do people animate themselves as characters when they do reviews or animations or personal videos

it makes me so fucking mad its obnoxious

>>88627583
REALISM IS BORING

>>88639530
>too meanspritted
Mr.enter wastes another oportunity in his life

>>88645206
who doesn't wanna be a cartoon?

>>88643544
his older videos were better, now that he's mainstream he's kind of gotten annoying

>>88627632
>>88627757
WE'VE GOOOOTA GET SPONGEBOB BACK

>>88629244
>>88629280
>>88629290
>>88629343
I thoroughly enjoyed the one he did about his pet hamsters growing up. Relatable as fuck.

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inevitable

>>88627632
You're the uggo supremo.

>>88632312
>the guy is a very talented pianist/composer
I feel the same way about Pilotredsun.
pilotredsun.bandcamp.com/album/achievement

>>88645970
that fnaf animation was actually pretty good for what it was