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What's /co/'s opinion on this? Is it good?
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>>88599882
Yeah.
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yes, wasn't too big of a fan of the issue that came out yesterday thogh
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>>88599882
Storytime, please?
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>>88599897
What was wrong with it?
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>>88599911
story didn't really grip me, felt like I've read it a dozen times before
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>>88599904
I would, but I only have the cbr files. Sorry.
If anyone has it as separate images I'd be mighty grateful.
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>>88599882
Definitive Santa Claus story.
>>88599965
Because it's really hard to extract images? Fuck off.
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>>88599982
I don't really know how. Never storytimed before, to be honest.
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It's fucking fantastic, although Morrison claims he's never seen Santa Claus is Coming to Town.
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>>88600184
That seems kind of like bullshit, given the story.
>new book ends with the moral of "global warming has advantages"
Fucking Morrison, man.
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>>88599994
Change the .cbr extension into a .rar extension and you can extract it.
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>>88600261
Thanks, anon. Hohoho!
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>>88599897
wait, it's an ongoing? I thought it was a mini that ended years ago.
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Yeah, really good. Simple narrative w/ some heart and psychedelic flourishes. Well informed/inspired by history.
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>>88600332
It just ended months ago. Yesterday's issue was just meant as a Christmas special.
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Anyone know how many pages yesterday's special was? $8 seems steep, so just wondering.
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>>88600217
The movie is based on the original folklore behind Santa Claus, just like the comic.
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>>88600733
I legit did not expect a comic about Santa Claus to descend into actual cuckoldry fetish.
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>>88600554
49.
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>>88600778
There's more to it involving a backstory.And love/rape magic
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Had to grab a smaller version from viewcomic due to size limits.
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>>88600781
Ah sweet, thanks
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That's it for issue one. I hope it managed to pique the interest of new readers.
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>>88600888
definitely, are you planning on story timing the rest?
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>>88600929
I might, if there's interest in it.
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>>88600934
Massive amounts of interest detected, captain. Please continue.
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Kinda sad red headed waifu wasnt reincarnated to mrs Klaus
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>>88600966
Yeah, that was a downer.And the fact they never had kids. That actually kind of soured the ending for me.
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>no one has posted the new issue yet
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>>88600980
True true, I thoughtthe winter magic that kept klaus young would have revitalize red head waifu, she got the short end of the stick
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Yeah it is fantastic.
Hope this gets adapted to movie.
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>>88601015
It's on viewcomics.
>>88601031I'm hoping it's a big enough hit to spawn a franchise. I'd love to see redhead and Klaus get the happy ending they deserve.
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>>88601855
Fuck why is Santa so fucking hot, i mean, i'm no gay man, but man, he hot.
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>>88602393
And that's issue 2. How ya'll liking it?
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>>88602073
Olav is officially my favorite character this week.
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>>88602431
its a gooder christmas book than we deserve.
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>>88602602
Here, if you want to read further. I have chores to do.
http://getcomics.info/other-comics/klaus-1-3/
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how long is this? can you finish it?
and why are all the kids in this book so fuckable?
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>>88599882
I liked it.
A bunch of people complained about it being yet another edgy take on Santa Claus, but having actually read it, those arguments were entirely baseless.
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bumping hoping for more storytime
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I will carry on your work, anon!
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>>88605926
ignore me, I should have continued to read the thread
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>>88600332
It's an ongoing in the sense that he plans to do a one-shot special each December.
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>>88606261
I hope we see Klaus get himself an immortal waifu.
The poor cuck.
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Does anyone else find Dagmar exponentially hotter when she's smiling in these pages?
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>>88607058
Dagmar is a true semen demon.
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>>88600767
Now that is a Boss Deer if I've ever seen one.
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>>88600825
Are those supposed to be Elves?
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Nah. They're the dudes who empower him. A sort of cross between the Fair Folk and Morrison psychedelia.
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>>88607443
They also might be aliens.
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>>88607541
Very possible!
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>>88601267
>Expecting EDGE
>Heartwarming and cute
WTF i love Morrisonagain
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>>88606989
>A robot toy
This guy really IS magic if he can make toys for kids in the future.
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>>88606989
Wait a minute...Is Jona Klaus' son?
It can't be.
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>>88608043
NVM, got it.
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That's it for tonight. If anyone wants to take over, feel free. Otherwise I'll storytime the remaining two issues plus special tomorrow.
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>>88608430
This was pretty awesome of you and the OP. Hope someone will take up the mantle tonight, but if not, have a good one.
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>>88608430
Ghod rest ye, merry gentleman.
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>>88608430
Thank you kindly anon.
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Not OP, but let me see if I can keep this thread alive.
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>>88611259
>three anons have donned the Klaus mantle
I'm so proud.
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>>88611368
Well, my holidays are gonna be shot so I figured doing something for others might cheer me up.
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>>88607263
>>88607541
I think they might be the aliens that Morrison met.
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>>88611654
Maybe. Ether way they seem pretty bro to stop Santa from dying.
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>>88611685
>stop Santa from dying
>stop
Yeah, not really.
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>>88611656
Krampus looks fucking amazing.
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>>88611699
Semantics.
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>>88611761
Rollin' right on thru.
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>>88611761
>that last panel
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>>88611415
What happened to your holidays anon?
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>>88611922
Minor stuff just making it harder to do things. Burden your friends with problems and soon you'll have none.
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>>88612002
Sorry to hear anon. Hope things start to turn better for you.
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>>88612037
Had to resize this one so sorry if it looks weird.
Also, from now on my Santa has sleigh wolves.
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>>88612095
Holy shit that's one badass Santa.
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>>88612061
Thanks for that. Things should turn around soon.
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>>88612095
Fucking Rad.
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>>88611654
Spoilers from the mini:The moon is involved so probably aliens of some sort, or the spirits care about the moon because it was part of earth before it got ejected by a meteor and no aliens. SPACE
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>>88612186
Obligatory Mortal Kombat reference.
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>>88611654
Morrison met aliens?
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>>88612213
>I want what I deserve!
Really ah, set himself up there.
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>>88599882
Ending was shit.
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>>88612226
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICkGA7OfMjY
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>>88607263
I thought they were supposed to be the "machine elves" seen by dmt users?
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>>88612321
Captcha needs to quit it with this signs shit.
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>>88612348
Set it to classic captcha.
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>>88612416
>Santa cuts off Krampus' head while laughing IN SPACE
Metal/10
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>>88612280
Holy shit, that's something I want to experience, closet I've had to the supernatural was seeing a phantom-things look at me in the hallway at night
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>>88612563
What the max image limit?
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>>88612580
That was beautiful anon. Thank you for taking up the mantle of the OP and others.
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>>88612159
is this a superman reference?
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Happy Holidays you lovable fucks.
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>>88612625
Hey, you're welcome. I got Winter Witch I just don't know if there's enough room in this thread.
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Alright, I'm just going to post Winter Witch till we get to the limit.
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Image limit for /co/ is 250, OP.
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>>88612827
Nice bling Santa.
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>>88612853
Imma just take yo beer, we cool right senpai?
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>>88612870
>>88612833
Should be enough then.
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>>88599882
What's the appeal here? It's literally just edgy fantasy Santa. It's not like it's outright bad or anything but everything about it is just kind of derivative and generic.
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>>88612870
Huh.../co/ changed my word.
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>>88612898
Glad to hear, this was a great read, glad I picked it up.
>>88612926
Co's got word filters, sempai
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>>88605830
I love these pedants.
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>>88599897
So you regularly read stories where Santa Clause escapes from decades of imprisonment in a crystal maze in the center of the moon to discover that his factory has been rebuilt and taken over by an ancient ice witch that is angry because global warming destroyed her domain and enslaved Gepetto to create an evil army of wooden ice puppet titans in order to destroy humanity and bring about another ice age?
Cool.
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>>88603059
Especially in the one shot from yesterday. It was such a fun book.
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>>88612922
I know this is bait, but it's not edgy at all you tremendous faggot.
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>>88613187
Edgy isn't quite the right word, but the comic is basically a more gritty version of Santa Claus is Coming to Town with Krampus.
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>>88613270
It's Santa Claus as a superhero. So it's Santa Claus with some conflict and violence.
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>>88613423
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>>88612491
>>88612521
>>88612538
i cried
holy fuck.
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>>88613453
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>>88613445
It's barely even Santa Claus, it's a buff guy with a sword and wolf that wears red clothing occasionally.
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>>88612922
It's Santa Claus is Coming to Town meets Conan the Barbarian.
And it works.
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>>88613564
I can't read music. What's the song sound like?
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>>88613624
I love how most of the snow golems look like Marshmallow.
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>>88613423
Ok this Klaus just went full superman this one shot.
I
L O V E
IT
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>>88613542
My problem is that it tries to play such a silly concept completely straight and without any sense of irony.
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>>88613691
>>88613659
You don't even know the half of it.
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>>88613691
>>88613717
>>88613736
Oh shit anon. I'm crying.
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>>88612728
I had no idea this was a thing. Reading this now. Thanks, anon.
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>>88613775
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>>88613676
That's what makes it work.
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>>88613676
COMIC BOOKS
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>>88613691
INFINITE KLAUS
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>>88613799
Just giving back after years of getting from /co/.
Happy Holidays anon!
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>>88613863
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>>88613811
At it's detriment maybe. It doesn't even really tackle Santa Claus' pre-commercialized roots and just makes him a generic Conan with a Santa theme. It's really just a creative crutch and window dressing for a weak story.
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>>88613897
Here's your (You), Scrooge.
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>>88613897
It's a fun story, stop being such a fag.
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>>88613912
Happy Holidays and thanks for the storytime anon! Did not really enjoy the story in this issue but as usual the art and especially the colours are beautiful.
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>>88613912
And that's it! For those of you that enjoyed it, you're welcome. And for those of you that didn't, well I still hope you have a great weekend and holiday.
And to all a good night!
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>>88613936
>Who cares about the quality, it's "fun"!
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>>88613971
You and the other Story Anons are a Christmas miracle! Happy Holidays to you all!
And fuck this Grinch Bitch: >>88613983
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>>88603059
I think that the larger portion of the art didn't do it any favors, at least in the beginning before real monsters and magic is showing up. Morrison writing is still Morrison writing, but the presentation of it definitely gives an "edgy" impression. I don't even dislike Mora's linework, which still retained a touch of cartoon expressiveness.
Really, it was the colour: it's like the colorist would continuously rely on "prestige tv" colors to cheaply assert that this was a story of merit; so lots of gray, white and everything else desaturated, unless Morrison expressly wanted something to be colorful, like his sleigh or the spirits.
To be fair, we're meant to understand that this is a dreary place that Klaus is saving, but the only bit of colour that even the supposed joy-bringer displays is a bit of red from his scarf. I'd almost get it if this was a standalone graphic novel and the color was saved for the end, but I had to wait a month or more for each installment, and the majority was just dreary
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>>88613912
thanks dood this was really good.
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>>88614018
>>88613933
What's wrong with me not liking a single generic Christmas comic? You're acting like I'm whipping out my dick and pissing on the very concept of Christmas itself. Not to mention the OP wanted others' opinion on the comic. I suppose you think it must be more in the Christmas spirit to insult others over their difference of opinion.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0WexR6sCqs
thread theme
lyrics translated from swedish:
Arntor, A Warrior
In Kaupanger the District Governors lived
Ivar Dape and another deceiver
Sworn to Sverre Sigurdsson
They collected taxes, excises and more fees.
The people of Sogndal only supported Magnus
Erlingsson, not the deceiver King Sverre.
The King was afraid to lose Sogn to Magnus the true kingsson.
Close to Christmas 1183
The Governor-filth demanded extra taxes to
Christmas celebrations for themselves and some others.
The bloodbath was about to happen.
Led by Arntor from Kvåle together with Isak
Torgilsson and the sons of Arngeir the priest,
Gaute and Karlshead.
These brave men from Sogndal,
Eide and Kaupanger went against the Governor scum on
Christmas eve angry and full of hate.
The wiseapple Ivar Dape asked for peace
Arntor and his men proclaimed war.
But after the axe his head chopped off,
there wasn’t much peace left in this chest.
Past midnight the killing of thieves, crocks,
servants and Ivar Dape was done.
The celebration of Christmas in Sogndal began.
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>>88612563
Is the guy really not Klaus' son?
They look pretty similar here.
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>>88613423
Who are the sculptures of, /co/?
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>>88600844
Absolutely gorgeous. Who drew and colored this?
Thanks OP!
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>>88615286
their names are right there
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>>88599882
Prime husbando material
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>>88612416
ABSOLUTELY BASED
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>>88613897
Somehow I doubt Grant would want to write a biography on St. Nicholas. It's be really cool if Klaus tied into his origin, though.
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>>88616463
It doesn't need to be a 1:1 biography, but it would have been nice if Morrison added more than a few cursory elements from the actual Saint Nick rather just make some Conan Santa wannabe.
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>>88616620
I suspect he might in the future. I think this is a character he wants to run with for a while since he wrote up another story. Witch of Winter showed he wanted to include a few more elements of the mythos, so it'd feel right to give the actual Nicholas more room to breathe in a future comic.
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>>88613542
Damn skippy, brah.
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>>88616732
But how? Witch of Winter is already set in modern times and he's still the same Conan Claus at that point.
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>>88616839
It doesn't have to be set in the present day. And Klaus doesn't have to be present.
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>>88599882
Bump for Christmas
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>>88614120
Go away, Funpire.
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>>88617507
He did mention "other Santas".
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Anyone have a mediafire link?
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>>88612975
>the battle with the Pola Cola Corp
Is there an actual comic storyline I could read about this because it seems great.
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>>88618919
No.
...not yet, anyway...
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>>88618782
Why is the only response I've seen thus far to criticism is "shut up, it's fun!"
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>>88613863
This little girl sure does know a lot about Climate change.
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>>88619027
Because
1) IT'S FUN
2) SHUT UP.
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>>88614120
>You're acting like I'm whipping out my dick and pissing on the very concept of Christmas itself.
Because you are.
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>>88619182
The comic itself barely has anything to do with Christmas outside of some window dressing. It would be like if I wrote a horror thriller comic based on the Easter except the only things I actually use from the holiday is bunnies and colored eggs.
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>>88619027
Yea and the only criticism being made is "this idea is dumb because"
It's not like wither side has a chance of changing the others opinion.
Taking the concept of Santa Claus and making him this medieval swashbuckling warrior is kinda silly, yea, and if that turns you off completely then sorry, I cant help you. I just feel that the story being coupled with some details that flesh out the characters and setting and really fantastic artwork make the idea work.
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>>88619254
I'm not going to get angry over you liking it or anything, just stating my opinion in a thrad asking for opinions and getting shouted at for daring to voice something outside of the consensus. I just find the concept extremely trite and the writing exceptionally weak from someone like Morrison. The characters are also rather generic and there's very little to them that elevates them beyond anything I've seen a thousand times before. Honestly, the only saving grace to the comic is the art. In the end, Klaus is just another generic action comic which is kind of disappointing coming from Morrison.
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>>88619338
Well, and I'm sure you'll hate hear this, but that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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>>88619462
Back at ya. Again, I'm not one insulting people over their opinion after all. Just trying to argue why I think Klaus isn't really all that good.
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>>88613580
>Santa Claus is real? I thought my dad was Santa Claus.
>Well there you go. Your dad's real, isn't he?
God, this is the most beautiful Morrisonian exchange I've read in a while. It alone makes the whole story worth it.
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>>88614040
This is true. Hell, until the sergeant explicitly stated it, I had no idea the guards were supposed to be wearing red and white.
Mora's linework on the other hand was beautiful, and I really hope he breaks big in the industry because I've enjoyed his art here immensely.
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I love this comic! The only problem is, I'm Icelandic so I didn't grow up with Santa Claus. The Yule Lads brought me presents. And then, Boom! there they are, and their in cahoots with Klaus and it's wonderful!
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>>88613423
That Krampus skeleton
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>>88600184
He's supposedly never read The Monster at the End Of This Book either. Hypercrisis is weird like that
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>>88599882
Santa looks like he is co splaying Superman from the JLU episode hereafter
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>>88601705
This guy is quickly reaching Disney-villain levels of evil and pettiness? Is there a deeper reason for his "no Christmas muhahahaha" laws?
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>>88619885
More than likely that's actually supposed to be The Yule Cat. The Krampus didn't have that long of forelegs.
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>>88612300
>that dialogue
yep. its morrison.
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>>88619474
>Just trying to argue why I think Klaus isn't really all that good.
Not well. Not at all.
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>>88613423
>The Parliament of the Klaus
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>>88606968
That wolf is too cute
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>>88621736
Huh. Icelandic.
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>>88621608
He's been driven insane by a deal with an evil entity.
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>>88627438
>He's been driven insane by a deal with an evil entity.actually he drove himself insane by thinking he could get EVERYTHING from that evil entity when he was actually just played around by it.
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>>88627487
Still, he made the deal to get Dagmar to fall in love with him.Which I guess counts as rape?
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>>88600184
It's a combination of Santa Claus is Coming to Town and The Life and Adventures of Santa Claus. Like most of Morrison's good stuff its a blend of influences that stands on its own.
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>>88600778
It's Fischer King metaphor imagery. The bad king is one who is lamed/impotent.
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>>88607263
Aliens are basically the modern folklore version of elves. Elves, angels, Ay Lmaoes, they're all the same big idea filtered through different cultures.
Read and compare abduction narratives with fairy folklore. They're the same, even down to the lost time stuff.
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>>88612280
Remember how different people had different experiences with BARBELITH in The Invisibles? I think it was Jack who had an out and out alien abduction episode. Alien abduction imagery also showed up in Flex Mentallo.
Morrison did his homework with angel/alien/fairy/the higher reality encounters.
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>>88628045
Well, no, it isn't. The baron isn't lame, has a son, and he's actually the one who swiped Klaus' girl.
It's just what it looked like based on that one panel.
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>>88622714
Considering none of the responses have brought up any counterpoints, I seem be doing better than the others.
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>>88613270
>Everyone mentions Santa Claus is Coming to Town
>No one Mentions Life and Adventures of Santa Claus
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>>88628275
I guess they're similar in that they're both "fantasy Santa" but other than that they're pretty different (Life and Adventures of Santa Claus is also far superior). The plot in Klaus however is basically a grittier version of Santa Claus is Coming to Town.
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>>88628339
It takes some ques from Life and Adventures though. Santa is a wild-man that hangs out in forests and talks to alien-fairies.
And yeah, Life and Adventures was fucking awesome.
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>>88627547
She says herself that maybe she actually loved him, so maybe he convinced himself that it was because of the deal
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>>88601933
>Why won't they fly for me? What's wrong with me?
Fuck. Morrison really can make sympathetic bad guys when he tries.
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>>88606726
>Unlucky red haired childhood waifu like Lana Lang
>Pulling out life-creation miracles like kid Jesus in the gnostics
Grant is really making a lot of references with this work.
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>>88611761
>Not having Barbelith show up as a giant red Christmas ornament.
Grant, you're slipping in your old age.
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>>88612002
...Is Krampus Ghost Rider for naughty children?
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>>88612095
He looks like he's from Masters of the Universe.
Awesome.
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>>88612270
Maybe THE shit.
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>>88612660
There's a LOT of Superman references.
I kind of want this to crossover with Superman actually.
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This thread should be stickied
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From the first issues I've read on previous occassions I expected Santa the Barbarian.
Instead I got SuperThor, Christmas edition. And I'm totally fine with that.
Thanks for the storytime and Merry Christmas
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>>88613658
>Santa robots
I fucking love how many little Superman references there are in this.
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>>88613897
> It doesn't even really tackle Santa Claus' pre-commercialized roots and just makes him a generic Conan with a Santa theme.
Grant is basically doing what he did with Batman and Superman. This Santa takes after quite a lot of Christmas and proto-Christmas stuff. There's Saturn and his Saturnalia and the Roman Mystery Cults in his powerup by coming close to death. There's also a bit of Odin in there, as it should be-Yule was his festival. He also stuck in a lot of Superman and Batman cues.
The Christian side of Santa was really the only side he didn't touch, unless you count some general Moses/Jesus motifs in the story.
In other words kys. There's 0 Conan in this.
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>>88614120
>Single Generic Christmas comic
This is a cut above the rest and you know it. It's legitimately heartwarming and taps into the primal "light in darkness" theme that makes people celebrate Christmas in the first place.
You're being a grinch for (you)s.
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>>88632180
Holidays*
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>>88616839
>Conan Claus
Stop. He's absolutely nothing like Conan.
>>88616620
>Santa Wannabe
You are aware that modern Santa owes more to being a fusion of Coke+Odin+Saturn than anything else right?
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>>88633834
He has very little similar with ANY incarnation of Santa and you know it. He has more similarities with Conan than Santa, hence Conan Claus. Hell, even Krampus is nothing like his folklore outside of being some evil demon looking thing. Morrison just went with the generic Santa vs. Krampus thing I've seen nearly every gritty Christmas take do at some point. Krampus was actually a companion of Saint Nicholas.
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>>88633945
>Very little similar with any incarnation
He actually has a LOT in common with Life and Adventures of Santa Claus Santa even down to the "made immortal by elves and friend to wild animals" stuff. Grant took that Santa and added elements from Santa Claus is coming to town, Saturn, Moses, Jesus, Batman, and Superman.
He has absolutely nothing in common with Conan. Please point to where's he's a cunning rogue stealing from wizards or a sullen king or screwing tavern wenches.
>Even Krampus is nothing like his folklore
He's kiddie ghost rider. He was always kiddie ghost rider. Grant just made him Santa's enemy to stress that this Santa is the "gives gifts to kids' type and not the "punish the naughty" type. See the "All kids are Good!' scene.
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>>88634067
>He actually has a LOT in common with Life and Adventures of Santa Claus Santa even down to the "made immortal by elves and friend to wild animals" stuff.
Maybe some of the cursory elements, but he essentially removed any conventional depictions that were also there. I don't see where you keep getting Saturn or Moses though. I can see the Batman and Superman elements though, Morrison essentially turned Santa into a shitty cape character. The Conan thing is a joke since he's essentially a sword wielding barbarian that fights demons and has more similarities with Conan than Santa.
As for Krampus, I'm just a bit peeved that Morrison clearly doesn't understand his folklore and went the easiest route in depicting him as just another demon thing. It was refreshing to see that horror film remember that he's there to teach a lesson rather than just be a simple monster.
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>>88599882
It didn't have Klaus fuck Elsa, but I still liked it. It seems Santa has gone full Morrison since the end of the original series.
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>>88634193
>Cursory elements
>Maybe some of the cursory elements
Being a big shaman dude that lives in the woods and talks to spirits is cursory? That's a pretty big thing.
>Removed any conventional depictions that were also there
Workshop at the North pole, flies a sleigh, gives presents to kids at Yuletime, has elf friends. It's Santa.
>Saturn or Moses
Saturnalia was about the return of Saturn. It was a bout a temporary return of the ever-lasting spring-time of the Titans during the darkest part of the year. Saturn essentially got to go out of Tartarus and party for a little bit. He's a guy with a big white beard that follows the descent into the underworld motif of the Roman Mystery Cults that also crops up in Odin's stories (hung himself from a tree to gain wisdom, also has a big white beard). Klaus dying and coming back references this.
The Moses stuff is even more obvious-people's champion, kicked out of his homeland, wanders in the outlands, comes back and wrecks shit with stuff God taught him. It's not very Christmasy like the Odin and Saturn references but its there.
>I can see the Batman and Superman elements, Morrison essentially turned Santa into a shitty cape character.
Superman and Santa both tap into the same "Roman Mystery Religion Sun God" stuff. The Batman stuff is just there because Grant likes Batman.
>Has more similarities with Conan than Santa
Except that's horribly wrong. He's a hodge-podge of Santa elements and the only Conan-esque think he's done is cut off the Krampus' head. That's literally it. If that's enough for you to scream Santa Conan then so be it, but that's petty in the extreme.
>As for Krampus
He's using Krampus to make a point about Santa-that he should be more of a benevolent friend to all children then a punisher who uses the Krampus to do the dirty work. It's like how God and Satan are friends until the writer decides to really write God in good-guy mode, then they're arch enemies.
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>>88634193
>Clearly doesn't understand his folklore
Have you read Nameless and The Invisibles? Grant Morrison is like that dude from Disney's Atlantis. He knows this shit. He knows the Krampus, he's just doing a blend of Santa-lore instead of directly adapting a single source.
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>>88634528
Lovecraftian Krampus was the funniest reveal ever.
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>>88634438
>Being a big shaman dude that lives in the woods and talks to spirits is cursory? That's a pretty big thing.
He's less of a Shaman and more of a survivalist. Most of the supernatural stuff is interacting without him seeking it.
>Workshop at the North pole, flies a sleigh, gives presents to kids at Yuletime, has elf friends. It's Santa.
He flies a sleigh with wolves and the elves are more like aliens than Christmas elves. And before you say it, yes, they resemble some depictions of elven folklore but nothing that has been remotely involved with Santa Claus.
>Saturn
That's a bit of a stretch considering he doesn't have a big white beard in this depiction. Maybe the Santa Claus myth has taken some inspiration from Saturn but this particular depiction doesn't really have this inspiration. I could easily say the resurrection stuff is related to Jesus for instance. Same with Moses.
>Except that's horribly wrong. He's a hodge-podge of Santa elements and the only Conan-esque think he's done is cut off the Krampus' head. That's literally it. If that's enough for you to scream Santa Conan then so be it, but that's petty in the extreme.
He's a borderline sword and sorcery barbarian-esque sword wielding hero. I've never heard of a depiction of Santa sounding anything like that. He might not match some of the specific elements of Conan, but he's essentially a Christmas themed 'Conan', hence Conan Claus.
>He's using Krampus to make a point about Santa-that he should be more of a benevolent friend to all children then a punisher who uses the Krampus to do the dirty work. It's like how God and Satan are friends until the writer decides to really write God in good-guy mode, then they're arch enemies.
I still say it's a lazy and boring depiction that almost everyone else uses and brings nothing new or different to the table.
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>>88634954
>Less of a shaman
>Literally summoning spirits with Morrison's 5-D thought form harmonics
Get real.
>And before you say it
He has more traditional elf friends in the Winter Queen story. And they're elves.
>Saturn
He and Odin make the "Old Father Christmas" image of Santa. This Santa is younger looking because to heighten his immortality-and to tie into the Life and Adventures depiction of Santa where hes mostly a young guy throughout the story.
>Resurrection stuff tied into Jesus and Moses
That's because Christmas as we know it is Odin worship+Saturn worship+Jesus worship+Coke worship. It's a lot of "fun shit to do while its fucking cold" celebrations from the Western World.
>Essentially a Christmas themed Conan.
Yes. The giving toys to children and making Christmas Miracles are totally Conan. Essentially Conan. Just add Christmas stories.
>Never heard of a depiction of Santa sounding anything like that.
Life and Adventures came close. It even had a giant battle between the forces of good and evil.
>Almost everyone else uses it
There was a rash of Krampus-sploitation films awhile back but I only remember one where he fought Santa.
Also, fun fact: The focus on poor miners is no accident. The Ore Mountains of Germany created many Christmas traditions, particularly the little wooden toys and nutcrackers and fancy decorations.
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>>88635627
You're acting like he did that intentionally or that's what summoned them.
>He has more traditional elf friends in the Winter Queen story. And they're elves.
Which makes no sense considering the things in the original story already serving the role of the "elves"
>He and Odin make the "Old Father Christmas" image of Santa. This Santa is younger looking because to heighten his immortality-and to tie into the Life and Adventures depiction of Santa where hes mostly a young guy throughout the story.
My problem is that he stays as that young immortal guy that doesn't resemble Santa at all.
>Yes. The giving toys to children and making Christmas Miracles are totally Conan. Essentially Conan. Just add Christmas stories.
And I totally remember Santa being this buff dude that wields a sword and fights demons.
>Life and Adventures came close. It even had a giant battle between the forces of good and evil.
It's been a while since I've watched the adaption, but I don't remember Santa physically taking part in fights all that much.
>There was a rash of Krampus-sploitation films awhile back but I only remember one where he fought Santa.
I remember there being a couple comics and movies that dealt with Santa fighting Krampus.
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It was too straightforward of a Morrison book for me to enjoy.
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>>88613483
Everyone is aware he is working on a new origin for Jesus, right? Hopefully we get a crossover.
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He has a sword. Exactly like Conan! He makes toys. Exactly like Conan! He delivers presents. Exactly like Conan! He has a magic flying sleigh. Exactly like Conan! He does magic. Exactly like Conan! He consorts with Christmas Elves. Exactly like Conan!
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>>88638465
What if... Conan was the real Santa all along?
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>>88638465
He has a pet wolf and wolves to drive his sleigh. Exactly like Santa! He's a buff guy with a short black beard. Exactly like Santa! He's a hunter who uses a magic sword to fight demons. Exactly like Santa! He's an immortal warrior that fights people on the moon. Exactly like Santa!
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>>88619222
From this comment I feel like you're a Christian. Am I right?
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>>88638939
You act like people can't add shit to a story. Go play Bard and get your generic-ass Santa fix.
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>>88636555
Wait what?
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