/DOAG/ Dumbing of Age General

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I'm just gonna leave this here.

Shill threads are against the rules.

>>88595322
But if it weren't for shill threads, you wouldn't have gotten dubs.

>>88595356
Dubs are against the rules too.

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tonights comic.
we still need tomorrows

>>88595397
If only that were true. /a/ would have a field day.

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Stay
Safe

Carla-chan!

>>88595418
>You deserve some power over me.
Oh, so all Amber wanted was some yuri femdom with a dark-skinned tomboy. I'm sure there are a few doujins like that on Sad Panda.

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>>88595418
looks like amber will be uncrazied soon.
less than one semester into a school year and he's going to fix all these characters lives. compelling story telling, willis.

>>88595418
wow, it's nothing

>>88595461
she gets off imagining she was raped in that robbery at knife point

i hate all these other characters and plot lines
i just need mary
and carla
and hot tranny dickings

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>>88595528

>>88595496
It's not rape if she accepts it.

>"No, please!" Amb- I mean, Andrea screamed as her assailant came closer. Eth- Eric, her friend, had been knocked out cold and left by the wayside.
>"Y'had yer chance t'escape, lil' piggy," the dark-skinned woman said, brandishing her knife. "Now it's time f'r ol' Sam Th' Butcher t'start carvin' some bacon." Sam inched closer and closer towards the helpless Andrea, smirking all the while. "Can't say I don't like what I see, tho. I s'pose we better start by cutting off all these dressings," Sam said as she carefully slipped her knife under Andrea's shirt, cutting it up as she slid it upwards.

Or something like that.

>>88595418
>please cuck me beaner girl
>lol naw

This is STUUUUUUUUPIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDD

>>88595271
Any links to older threads? I want to see how much Willis has become worse over time

>>88595638
Archived threads generally have /doag/ in the title. For threads older than that, try key terms like "David Willis", "Dumbing of Age", and "Toedad".

>>88595271
Am i a Maryfag for being not liking how Willis is so hateful toward her and thinking that least some other characters are worse then the supposed villain/antagonist?

>>88595684
Thanks

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>>88595704
yes

welcome to the family

>>88595704
Yup.
Shipping Mary/Carla is recommended, but optional.

>>88595580
I need a comic where Mary gets violated by Carla in a women's restroom.

>>88595737
"Where's Becky" too.

>>88595783
I need a comic where Mary reverses the situation and brutally doms Carla.

>>88595783
>Carla, what the fuck?!
>My revenge is hard, thick, and absolutely erotic!

>>88595808
>Mary, what the fuck?!
>You were on to something with that erotic revenge. Let me introduce you to Tucker the Equinine.

>>88595704
Willis has done a very, very bad job of making Mary, his designated villain, actually unsympathetic.

Her original Roomies incarnation served that role a bit better, being a supercilious tag along who's preachy morality lasted until she found someone to drunkenly hook up with, and who hypocritically had an abortion to avoid the consequences of banging some guy.

DoA Mary on the other hand, is self isolating, seems to be focused on her schoolwork, seems to have genuine religious conviction even if they are sometimes bitter and self punishing, and tends to get shat on by people who are almost all self serving jerks.

Mary would make a BETTER PROTAGONIST that Billie. Or Carla. Or Amber.

>>88595300
I feel like I'd like Carla more if Willis wasn't such cunt.

I don't mind asshole characters most of the time. For a trans-girl she's still cute (probably because Willis can't be bothered to make Carla look remotely like she ever had a dick.) And, hell, I like her style.

The problem is that he keeps either trying her into stories where we have to play her straight (which we simply cannot do. She's a rediculous asshole and should be comedy relief background character at most) and give her angst while still having her keep her "I'm a dick and I love being a dick" personality.

Either she doesn't give a fuck about people and shits on them for fun, or she's super sensetive and crumbles when her identity is called into question. The idea that someone like Carla would be so affected by Mary or Ruth or fucking anyone else seems contrary to her character. Which once again, is because she doesn't mesh well with Drama. At all. If she just skated by for a one-liner every now and again she'd probably be one of my favorite characters.

>>88595300
>just about nothing has happened since last book

>>88595418
Does Willis use a random text generator? Or maybe randomize their personalities? They're never consistent.

>>88595914
as far as I can tell:
>amber mistrusts sal because handstab, but is trying to learn to trust her and accept she's a different person
>sal thinks amber is reckless as fuck but is ultimately trying to do the right thing.

>>88595300
God, Willis loves to huff his own farts.

>>88595418
>Forgets app that would give away her identity to her nemesis
What a strange fuck up for her to make, seems like bad writing.
>I did it on purpose to give you power over me
What a strange justification, seems like bad writing.

Willis sucks at this.

I'm also a big fan of how this went from Amazi-Girl tormenting and following Sal to her "saying she's protecting her from [Amber]." So now she's being nice to her to justify that line of reasoning. What bullshit, all Amber ever did around Sal is have panic attacks and run away to change into AG as soon as possible to mess with her. Willis hasn't even showed how Amber views the situation after AG and Sal teamed up. This whole feud ended way worse than I expected, and I expect it'll get shittier before it's entirely over.

>>88595964
Apparently the thing is that Amber is unstable when around Sal, but is able to speak with her as Amazi-Girl.

>>88595892
holy shit i forgot about the abortion storyline. fuck, it would be perfect to do with carla
>give into their base urges and have all kinds of sex
>carla refuses to change for mary, they break up
>mary is preggo, but no abortions this time around
>names carla as the father on the birth certificate
>"I'm sure your rich parents can help you pay the child support now that you're a father, dear."
>they have constant hatesex and raise a family

>>88595892
Mary is also petty, judgmental, and very holier than thou. However, the real problem with her is that she reveals the unrealistic nature of Carla by being the realistic version of the same character type. They're functionally the same character, just replace Ultracar with Reagan.

>>88595898
You can play Carla straight with the correct touch and by not dwelling on it. Take Mary misgendering Carla. Make it an actual, insulting misgender instead of a vague insinuation. You can play it straight in three ways: you can have it be the crack in her armor and have her withdraw, you can have her roll with it, or you can have her punch Mary in the face.

>>88595898
That's the key difference between her and Mike, oddly enough.

Though back in Shortpacked she was more likeable because it was Malaya who got that treatment while Ultra Car/Carla was a supporting character/punchline prop like Mike

>>88595989
Which makes zero fucking sense considering his prior characterization of Amber's psychological decline and the original reason she became Amazi-Girl. It should be the opposite.

>>88596095
Only if it's balanced out by a surprisingly normal domestic life.

>>88596223
>Malya is the worst in Shortpacked!
>Malya is the worst in DOA

really makes you think

>>88596267
That's how I feel about the whole situation too. Amber should be the inward take on her feelings towards Sal, and Amazi-Girl should be the outward expression of her repressed anger issues.

Instead, Amazi-Girl is trying to be the primary personality, and Amber is the one set to snap.

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>>88596144
>You can play it straight in three ways:
None of which involve Ruth ineffectually riding to Carla's rescue out of nowhere. Ruth let Mary and Carla's quarrel go all afternoon, so she might as well have let Carla stand up for herself.

>>88596368
Willis doesn't understand split personality disorder, a literally made up affliction

do you expect him to know anything past a few panels of Two-Face?

>>88596462
Disassociative Identity Disorder is an actual thing.
But Willis seems to assume you can just switch personalities whenever you feel like it.

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>(march 15, 2017)

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>>88595783
Damned liberal bathroom laws! This wouldn't have happened in North Carolina!

>>88596479
Dis-associative Identity Disorder is real

Split Personality Disorder is not and a very dangerous misdiagnosis

the two are similar but not the same

>>88596368
You could do something with Amazi-Girl being the only way she can interact with Sal considering how much splitting and compartmentalization Amber has put in the Amazi-Girl persona at this point. But it wouldn't look like this.

The worst thing is that this strip, >>88595418, still clearly shows the extreme compartmentalization of Amber that set this current phase of Sal vs. Amber in motion.

>>88596320
She's one of the few characters I don't think DOA ruined. Like she's bitchy but so is everyone else and she at least seems cool enough to learn Sign language for Marcie.

That said it's hard for me not to like a brown, freckled, curvy, asian girl, who shows lots of skin.

>>88596454
This cheapened the moment SO much. Because 1. Ruth didn't help and made everything worse
2. Not giving Carla a chance to stand up for herself made Carla look exceptionally weak.
3. It creates the implication that Ruth just sat by and idly allowed all of this to transgress, from the skating and the glue, and the stomping but suddenly saying a vague implication that she's not a real girl suddenly gets her full attention.

It basically makes every character worse and from this point on they don't ever recover.

>>88595468
It's a good way to side step her extensive compartmentalizing and just have her Get Better. Maybe he just got tired of fans and critics asking him about Amber's mental issues.

>>88595581
>No! Don't! A little to the Left!

>>88596516
Split personality is an antiqued and incorrect term for schizophrenia.

>>88596513
Fine, then.
>Walky Performs a Getting Anally Violated in a Urinal Stall After One Too Many Disparaging Comments About Ultracar

>>88596582
Ruth not helping and making everything worse could have made for good drama and a good setup to see her slowly decline into self-destruction and depressive catatonia as she loses the respect and fear of her charges.

>>88595271
Cool

guys we shouldn't be so mean to david willis

>>88595704
Mary's a shit person, regardless of your stance on religion, and you'd have to pay me to hang out with her in real life.

You're right though. It takes more than being a shitty person IRL to be a good antagonist, and Willis messed up so badly that even I felt bad for her the last time we saw her.

>>88596754
Credit and respect are given where they're due.

>>88596754
I'm only so mean because I know he could be better. If he stops being a shit I'll stop shitting on him.
All he has to do is improve in just any way.

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>>88596754
They should be meaner, honestly. They give him a lot of credit in these threads for his older stuff, which is also godawful and inept.

>>88596754
I disagree.

>>88596858
Some of his later Walky stuff actually had some decent punch to it, he was willing to mess with strip sizes to get the right tone for a scene rather that shunting everything into the same weekday newspaper strip size, and he focused on telling a story rather than writing what he likes to write rather than bland tripe that he writes to make money and spite his enemies.

>>88596915
Yup, just like that.

It may have been better than what he does now, but it's always been DA autist tier.

Even the "best" SP strips were pretty crap

>>88596858
>>88596860
>>88596802
>>88596839
he clearly reads /co/

Let's not bullly

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>>88597016
Let's banter him so hard he dies.

Then his kids will only have one Parent*.

*AKA HITLER

>>88596915
and now i'm tempted to binge on "it's walky"

>>88597016
>Let's not bullly
I'm not going to make fun of him, but I'll comment on his work and public opinions. It's not like I'm sending him hatemail, discussion threads are for discussing works (and creators), if he comes into them and gets his feelings hurt, that's on him.

>>88597059
You could just read a comic that's good instead of one that's not shit by comparison.

>>88597087
i have been meaning to finish Transmetropolitan or Kairos

>>88597048
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrZRURcb1cM

>>88597082
>>88597048
Meanness is not aloued.

>>88597059
So am I

>>88597059
>>88598029
Willis has been reuploading all of his older comics in higher resolution, so if you want to read them, here's the best place:
http://www.itswalky.com

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I'm bored, so it's time for some analysis about the power booster rod.
It's a tree branch that was used as a catalyst for the excess energy created by travelling to another universe.
The yellow aura represents the full potential of the energy.
If the user wishes, they can ignite this aura (which in this case covered the entire continent of america)
1/3

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>>88598437
Now here's where it gets kinda weird.
When Danny finds Sal (Who was his ex girlfriend in high school), he's not covered in this yellow aura.
Therefore, if she ignited the aura, he would be the only one safe.
2/3

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>>88598459
Here's a later part where Joyce uses the rod.
As you can see, Walky is still covered by the aura.
What does this mean about their relationship compared to Danny and Sal's?
Would Danny still not be covered in the aura?
discuss.
3/3

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>>88596645
>Fine, then.
Oh, I wasn't opposed to the idea, just proposing dialogue.

>>88596144
>Mary is also petty, judgmental, and very holier than thou.

And yet STILL a better person than anyone else in this menagerie.

>>88596754


Youre right

We should be MEANER

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>>88598485
The fact that Joyce herself is aware of this probably means she didn't have full control over the rod.

Whereas Sal's control was so precise that she was able to tell it to spare Danny completely subconsciously.

Joyce is kind of an airhead so it makes sense that when it comes to a weapon controlled by thought, she wouldn't be as good at using it, since she's not very good at thinking in general.

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>>88600106
>she was able to tell it to spare Danny completely subconsciously
Was she aware that she was sparring Danny?

>>88598395
If you've finished reading all the uploaded stuff, links to the remaining comics can be found here:
http://walkypedia.wikia.com/wiki/Storylines_(It%27s_Walky!)
After that, there's Joyce and Walky, which has two sections. A gag-a-day bit which starts at:
http://www.joyceandwalky.com/d/20050801.html
And the bit with continuing storylines, the links for which are here:
http://pastebin.com/5MwZPhsE

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>>88600224

>>88599251
>mary says something rude and locks herself in a stall
>carla goes into the next stall and very obviously starts to pee standing up into the toilet, whistling and being a jerk
>mary bangs on the stall wall angrily, shouting about real girls pee sitting down, knocks the toilet paper holder off the wall and it leaves a hole
>carla, incensed by more 'real girl' crap, seizes on the moment to terrify mary with her feminine penis and shoves it into the hole
>mary squirms and closes her eyes, but then is taken aback by how massive the schlong is, involuntarily reaches out to touch it
>carla is now weirded out and does not want mary of all people touching her peepee and tries to pull out but
>oh no
>it's stuck
>once again a prisoner of her body, carla pleads with mary not to do anything rash
>however, entranced by the serpent staring her in the face, mumbles something about the christian thing to being help carla be free, and puts mouth to cock

this shit writes itself. willis is sitting on a goldmine of repressed christian/sassy dickgirl shenanigans and he'll never use it because 'mary's the BADGUY!!!!!1'

>>88600757
>Ok, Mary, it is your fault I can't get my... part out of that hole. You have to take responsibility for this situation!

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>>88595300

>>88601046
>Mary and Carla will never consummate their relationship on the baby changing table of a rundown gas station restroom

>>88600757
You could have a bit where she compares the girth to her wrist and is impressed, and then when Carla is near finished (and would be able to escape), Mary puts her wrist bands around it at the base to delay her.
>Don't stretch these out too bad with your monster, these are my favourite pair.

>>88601513
>Mary will never buy a strap-on with the intent to ravage Carla's asshole so much she goes back to being a man and have the plan backfire as they both anally penetrate one another simultaneously

>>88601745
In my head when I think about these ideas, Mary has an anime inspired secret futa fetish and is constantly drawing Carla wearing short skirts and various bows and cock-socks. She even gives Carla a set of handmade Christmas themed wristbands for the holidays.
>"These are actually cute as fuck- wait why are there three of them?"

>>88601918
>"These are actually cute as fuck- wait why are there three of them?"
That's amazing, anon.

And I like the ideas in the rest of the post too.

>Carla's a grower not a shower because of transition hormones
>Mary's never seen it outside of battle mode
>Mary tries to pull down Carla's pants when she's not in the mood
>404cocknotfound
>"WHAT DID YOU DO WITH IT"
>"WHERE IS IT"

>>88602082
Reverse it, Mary teases Carla for her small, flaccid cock only to get slapped upside the head with Carla's erect pringle can when she's not looking.

>>88602226
>Carla's erect pringle can
That is not a mental image I needed today.

>>88602932
Over the lips, past the tongue, look out gag reflex, here it cums.

>>88600757
Willis is so afraid of writing complicated stuff that he sticks with boring stuff. The only good thing is that he's so boring that he's unpredictable. We can sometimes guess what's going to happen next, but sometimes, he picks the dumbest possible choice that we never thought of.

>>88598485
Something you need to remember is that Walky and Sal were pretty much the purest alien hybrids able to use alien tech.

It might just be because Joyce has a weaker powerset such as it was.

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>>88600106
>>88604400
Apparently it was nothing to do with power.

>>88596582

>Not giving Carla a chance to stand up for herself made Carla look exceptionally weak.

According to the fans I argued with about this, it's entirely justified because there's literally LITERALLY nothing you could ever do to a trans individual that's worse than calling a trans-girl a boy, or vice-versa.

It's literally rape.

Literally.

>>88600757
>>mary says something rude and locks herself in a stall
>>carla goes into the next stall and very obviously starts to pee standing up into the toilet, whistling and being a jerk
>>mary bangs on the stall wall angrily, shouting about real girls pee sitting down
I could actually see this happening in-comic, but I don't think he's bold enough to try it.

>>88600757
>We'll never get a "Carla finds out Mary drew her favourite UltraCar doujin episode"
Feels pretty bad, famiglia

>>88600757
>mary uses a necklace to tie carlas package and trap it in the stall
>won't let her cum until she admits she's a degenerate confused boy
>she teases and edges carla for the better part of an hour
>carlas' stubbornness makes this take longer
>eventually mary ups the stakes and offers a "reward" for giving in
>carla puts up a front
>she feels bare flesh pressed up against her dick
>mary is hot dogging carla
>her ass stroking her frustratingly slowly
>mary again offers to untie her
>carla, frothing at the mouth, finally gives in
>mary unties her
>sweet release hits so hard she shoots over the stall into the one beside it
>carla is slumped against the wall
>mary gets redressed and flicks carlas still swollen and pulsating dick
>she gives a snide comment as she leaves the stall
>carla tells her to "fuck off" as she gets out of the hole in the stall
>it's still stuck
>carla asks for help but mary is long gone now
>"fuck"
>carla is violently shaking the stall to remove her wang
the force pops open a couple of loose stall doors
>we then pan to see joyce, sitting in the stallthat was next to mary's, beet red and frozen
>her hand is on her crotch
>she appears to be either in shock or unconscious
>there is jizz in her hair

>>88598485

remember when Willis made interesting (if nonsensical) comics?

>>88604907
Having it give Carla pause is one thing, but Carla didn't have any problems taking Ruth to task a few seconds later.

Maybe if Willis actually had Mary use slurs it would have worked as is.

>>88605112
>Carla commissions hardcore gay smut of Reagan that she'll pin up all over the floor to piss off Mary
>turns out that not only is Mary the artist, but that Carla has been commissioning Ultracar r34 from Mary for years

Personally, I'm still fond of the idea that Mary knew, was friends with, or had affection for a pre-transition Carla, and the conflict between her Christian faith and her love for Carla resulted in the conflict that the two have now.

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>>88605613
No, because he's always been an incompetent idiot.

The stories were always fucking childish, as the man is, and always has been, a CHILD.

>>88605651
I think that'd probably work best by giving a young Mary a crush on pre-transition Carla, and making pre-transition Carla somewhat exploitative of that crush. You'd need to have it all go down in middle school, otherwise they'd be way too familiar with each other for the current stuff to work out.

>>88605760
Nah, I'm not too big on exploitation. Unrequited love, maybe. Y'know, like if Carla was good friends with Mary, but Mary felt like they were more than friends, and when Carla began transitioning, it was with the hopes that Mary would be accepting of it.

Ultimately, it's an idea that I want to expand upon because it's pretty much the only goddamn way that anybody can explain how Mary knew of Carla's trans status, because otherwise we're just supposed to assume she knew Because Plot.

>>88605651
Changes the tone of a lot of their interactions.

Even sort of explains why Carla went through that convoluted sign gag instead of just kicking her in the cunt. Can't bring herself to raise a fist against her.

>>88605840
You could run the idea that as Carla's parents became more successful Carla and Mary drifted apart. Carla became more and more self-absorbed and selfish while Mary was left bitter and resentful.

>>88605632
>Carla commissions hardcore gay smut of Reagan that she'll pin up all over the floor to piss off Mary
>turns out that not only is Mary the artist, but that Carla has been commissioning Ultracar r34 from Mary for years
This only works if they're both simultaneously horrified.
Or if there's some shakespearean shit where Carla shows off the image, Mary is horrorstruck, but NOT for the reason Carla thinks she is.

>>88605862
>>88605881
See, you guys get it.
Willis should have given Carla and/or Mary a flashback at the beginning of the book instead of Sal.

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>>88605710
I disagree.
His comics only got childish when he started doing shortpacked.

>>88605947
Childish in terms of political messages, sure, but It's Walky and the Alien shit was the work of a child in its simplicity.

>>88605892
What if Trans Reagan?

>>88605632
I feel like carla is too vanilla so far. she's a dick, but to very few people, and she's more of an annoying cunt than a prankster.

That coupled with her being taken back by the mere implication that she wasn't a real girl, her love of ultra car (a cartoon) being her motivation to transition, and her targeting of mary prior to any sort of antagonizing or any on-screen interactions makes her look more a vindictive special snowflake sjw.

Though I guess willis can only write from his perspective.

>>88605651
if only willis didn't think 90% Christians were irredeemable racist/sexist/misogynist/nazis this could be a really cute storyline.

>>88605892
and carla believes her handle is a dirty pun, but it's really a bible refrence

>>88605112
>Wait a second, is that Ronald Reagan in the background of this panel?

>>88595461
Thats what I thought. Then I found none. Ok maybe one. And even that was more bi and the brown girl was dominating.

>>88605892
>Mary is horrorstruck, but NOT for the reason Carla thinks she is.
>My old art is so embarrassing I could die!

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>>88606101
So were the X files childish?

>>88606708
Hey, Willis' mum.

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>>88606947
>implying Willis' christian mum would be defending him and not calling him a tranny-loving faggot

>>88605613
I remember as if it was...
yesterday

>>88606461
Well, from the strip Willis made, it seems as if Amber wants Sal to dominate her.

>>88606461
>>88607339
She should make her into a cuckquean of epic proportions.

Here's a question: If there was anything in DoA that you could or would fix if given the opportunity, what would you fix? Bonus points if you pick anything before the Toedad Saga, when these threads began to pick up on /co/.

Does anyone else want Dorothy to get knocked up and lose her chances at going to Harvard? I just wanna see her come to terms with the fact that her life plans are fucked and have the kid anyway

>>88607753
I'd change how he gives tone whiplash every few strips. Serious strips only end on jokes. Even prior to Ross showing up, there are so many strips where a good last line is ruined by another stupid line that completely ruins the mood or ruins the joke.

>>88608300
She would get an abortion without hesitation.

>>88607753
dorothy.

more so than becky, she is forced into plot lines that have nothing to do with her.
She's too level headed and makes the comic too serious to be a parody, but too detached from reality to be taken seriously.

She was benign up until the walky grades plot line which seems to be all but abandoned.
and now Willis wants her to be more than just Walky's girlfriend, even though that's literally what he designed her character to be from the get go.

>>88607753
I'd either use this opportunity to fulfill my MaryxCarla shipping dreams or I'd make Mary an actual competent villain. Like, less mustache twirling super obvious stuff like trying to force a group prayer, and more subtle shit, like:

>mary hates that sierra is barefoot all the time
>finds a grassy area that sierra likes to frolic in or some shit
>seeds it with tiny pieces of broken glass

If Mary has to be the bad guy, make her a proper bad guy. Make her petty, make her vicious, make her competent.

>>88605651
That makes sense and I would absolutely love it, but Willis seems content to leave it as a plothole for how Mary knows about Carla being trans.

>>88608358
>now Willis wants her to be more than just Walky's girlfrien
I don't know, Dorothy had her role reduced in the second cut of the "Ruth gets committed" arc. See >>88595468

>>88608522
I felt like Dorothy lost her place as soon as Becky got kidnapped. Everything important to Joyce became Becky after that incident.

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Joyce is cute.

>>88608522
and even in the original she just stood there while walky did all the actions.

She actually has more interaction in the new version, half of a strip is just her silly reactions to mary.

The question is still "why is she even there?"
Why does she go into the room or why is she commenting on mary or this situation when she knows literally nothing about it?

>>88608787
>in the original
Original what?

>>88608815
this
>>88595468

>>88608858
Oh, OK.
I thought you were talking about her apprearance in J&W.

>>88608358
It's odd how Willis sees Dorothy as an ideal person to be when she doesn't even do anything.

>>88608979
Maybe that's why?

>>88609010
Hell if I know. I think it's more about what Dorothy aspires to be rather than what she does. And even then, what she aspires to be is rarely ever on display.

>>88608358

>[Dorothy] makes the comic too serious to be a parody, but too detached from reality to be taken seriously.

This is every primary character in DoA.

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>>88609133
Kinda describes the whole comic as well.
You've got moments like the toedad car chase which are meant to be dramatic but are too over the top and have no real consequences.

>>88608979
she's his ideal woman

>mothers walky(his self insert)
>dresses him
>never confronts him about his shortcomings
>will immediately fold if walky wants/doesn't want something

>>88609133
but at least the rest are obviously done as a caricature of their stereotypes, even if it's unintentional.

Dorothy isn't even a believable exaggeration. her character is just too bland and uninspired to fit with the rest but not a straight-man to any extent either.

>>88609253
Don't forget atheist.

>>88609284
of course!
how could I forget to mention her most important feature!

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>Last post to the DOA Edits tumblr was Dec 3rd
Surely we've had some more edits made.

>>88609515
I think TumblAnon is dead. We've made several edits in the threads since then.

>>88609612
I'll be happy to take the reins if he's tired of it.

>>88609253
the only thing I remember about Dorothy is she's a 0 on the Kinsey scale

>>88609736
His ideal woman would be 100% not gay

willis is a very well documented homophobe.
he blames his religious upbringing for it and tries to overcompensate by making almost every character in his comics gay or bi, but it just shows how little he knows about them.

his slipshines should be more than enough to show how clueless he is with homosexual relationships.

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>>88609959
>willis is a very well documented homophobe.
whoa geez.

>>88609973
He had a break down on TFWiki about the colors on an Optimus model once and blamed his upbringing for it.

it was hilarious because even the autist at TFWiki called him out on it as soon as it happened

>>88609623
The problem is,due to the nature of 4chan's anonymity, there's barely any way to get in contact with people like Patreanon, rainbow, yoto or Edits guy (the latter two have tumblrs but I don't know how often they respond to them)

If you DID take over the reins you'd have to make a brand new DOA-edits tumblr.

>>88605892
Mary x Carla is the only ship in DoA that I give a shit about.

>>88610016
I believe it was around the time he wrote the ethan's boyfriend arc on shortpacked too right? and it made him re-write the ending so that ethan learned nothing and kept buying transformers anyway. somehow turning what's-his-face into the bad guy for trying to "change" ethan.

>>88610482
nah he never changed the ending. Ethan was always supposed to be right because if he actually had a problem hoarding toys then that means Willis would have a problem hoarding toys

>>88610482
>>88610591
I wonder if Willis will ever reintroduce a hoarding storyline into DoA. Given the confines of a college dorm, I wouldn't be sure how it would work.

>>88610864
Are Ethan or Walkie hoarding merch in their dorms?

>>88610913
Not yet, but you never know when Willis is gonna need a storyline.

>>88610591
huh...

that somehow makes it seem even more petty.

like willis knows it's a terrible waste of his life and money, but he just justifies it because it's not him who needs to change, it's everyone else who just needs to let him go down a self destructive path.

>>88610913
ethan definitely, walky probably just has his monkey master merch.

>>88610864
>Given the confines of a college dorm, I wouldn't be sure how it would work.
Since you have only half of a not-very-big room, it would be really easy for hoarding to become a problem for their roommates.

>>88611170
True, true.
But Mike would just guilt Walky out of hoarding, since apparently Mike is now a complete asshole instead of being an abrasive voice of reason.

And Jacob is almost completely a non-character, so Ethan would be able to get away with it. At least, not unless Willis WANTS to utilize his white privilege and put words in a black man's mouth.

>>88611240
>But Mike would just guilt Walky out of hoarding
That irredeemable son of a bitch!

>>88611266
Pretty much.

>>88596784
She is shit beacause a shit writer is writing her, i don't see how she asked to be this

>>88596784

I'd still sleep with her

Hell I'd want to sleep with her even more

>>88612073
This, pretty much. But it applies to everything about DoA.
Much like a Brian Michael Bendis character, give the concepts of DoA to another writer and you could probably get a far better story out of what we have. Hell, make Willis sit on what he's written for at least two months and then have him do a second draft, and it'll probably end up better than what we have published.

>>88612173

Give the concepts of DoA to another writer and you're likely to get Degrassi: The College Years.

>>88612288
Hey, that show was on TV, so it has that over DoA.

>>88609612
RIP all our various anons.

>>88613648
It's a sad day for us all.

>mary continues to be the over religious cunt that everyone just kinda hates/ignores
>she gets a job at the newspaper, drawing a comic strip
>it's basically a slice of dorm life comedy, she bases it on the floormates and comically mocks them and their drama bullshit
>protagonists go to complain about how mary is spying on them for material
>mary adds a sci-fi alien abduction plot to establish the comics are 100% fictional

what if mary was the willis self-insert

>>88614042
I would love that more than life itself.

>>88614042
How many years do you think it would take for that storyline to take place in DoA?

>>88614238
depends on if we let someone competent produce it or if we leave it up to willis

>>88614238
Knowing Willis, he wouldn't even let Mary get past the door to the newspaper's main office. He'd find a way to block her every move.

Of course, this is also assuming that Willis would allow Mary to remain on a mental track such as this, and wouldn't simply just make her give up unceremoniously.

>>88614238
I don't think Mary is going to get any personal motivations. Even her antagonism with Carla is ill-defined. She only shows up to be mean or telegraph being mean and then slinks off.

>>88608436
I mean, have you ever heard a trans person talk? The voice is kind of a dead giveaway 9/10 times.

>>88614799
But we as an audience can't hear Carla's voice. Nor are there any other physical giveaways. As far as the reader is concerned, and assuming they never read Willis' other blogs in which he revealed Carla was trans, Carla is as female as a gaggle of lesbians.

Further, Mary and Carla never had any direct interaction with each other prior to the skating kerfuffle. Their only interaction was in a Patreon bonus strip that, again, normal readers would not ever see.

>>88615010
I was only attempting to offer an in universe explanation. I cannot possibly defend Willis and his inability to tell a coherent story.

>>88614799
I don't think Willis would want to perpetuate the idea that trans people are easy to detect.

Sal and Mary are the only characters to notice. Not even Joyce, who often puts her foot in her mouth about people who are different than her like this said anything about her appearance/voice. Part of that could be that Joyce is polite enough not to mention anything regarding appearance, but she hasn't even commented on her height which is a fairly benign statement (and what the discussion that Sal knew was focused on).

It seems pretty clear to me that he has no interest in exploring the idea of passing like he is with the idea of racism between minorities or gay issues. (I'm not saying he's doing a good job with that stuff, just that he has tried with those and not with gender passing)

By dropping some sort of other reason for Mary knowing, like her eavesdropping on Carla, he could completely avoid the issue.

More importantly than all this, by doing that, he could make sure his audience knows Carla is trans rather than dancing around it to avoid offending people. He could've even just had a positive moment with Carla and her family that made it more clear.

>>88615103
Fair enough. There's still little indication in the universe itself that Carla has a masculine voice.

>>88615128
Did Sal ever explicitly notice? As far as I recall, she only asked why Carla wasn't a part of the campus roller derby team (which apparently exists). Also, we're led to assume that Ruth was also aware of Carla being trans.

I do recall Willis stating that he didn't want to outwardly admit that Carla was trans in the comic. Unfortunately, this resulted in her sexuality NEVER being discussed in the comic, and how people were confused when Mary delivered her "slur".

>>88614799
To be fair to trans people on the whole, trans males tend to get deeper voices when they get testosterone, and it's almost impossible to hear any traces of femininity if the transition is done well (which is usually is for trans males).

There are also some undefinably trans people who alternate what gender they go by, and their voices are only a giveaway 50% of the time.

Most of the trans females I know (and are friends with) are ones I know online, so I haven't heard them speak. The one I have heard speak uses a falsetto that works all right because she has a 4-octave voice and can sing in a ridiculously high soprano as well as a ridiculously deep baritone.

>>88615194
>Did Sal ever explicitly notice?
She said "You're pretty dang tall," and Carla said there was "a reason for that." Sal said she knew and that she didn't think the other girls on the team would care.

Carla also does officially call herself trans (in a sentence that doesn't really work) in a strip where she calls Ruth out for being useless.

>>88615328
Got the Sal strip? I forget if that's how it went down or if I'm forgetting things.

And Carla does call herself trans, but it isn't until after the fact. It's like everybody escaping a burning building, then trying to figure out if a fire broke out once out of the building.

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>>88615381
Here it is.

Yep, it really loses the punch when you don't know until after the fact.

>>88615444
>there's a reason for that
>On my home planet of Venus I am known as Valiant Thor

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>>88615194
>Did Sal ever explicitly notice?
I wouldn't call it explicit, but she does know. e:f,b >>88615444

Also, it's very much not a thing whether or not Billie knew before Ruth told her. Ruth mentions Mary "gleefully throwing transphobic slurs at Carla." Billie responds by saying "What?" but it is not expanded upon at all.

I don't have any issue with trans*, and I understand there is a need for secrecy and for people to be in control of how their identity gets out if it does. But a lot of the way Willis does it, treats it as though it's universally a dirty word. But it's really not. Some people react negatively, some neutrally, and some positively, and what I've gathered is you share with the positive ones in private. And, heck Carla may not want to share with Sal, but I'm sure she does with her family. I dunno, it's weird.

>>88615289
This is interesting information, and I must admit, I was basing my assertion that trans people can be easily identified via voice based on my observation of publicly known trans figures such as Briana Wu and Caitlyn Jenner and that one comic /co/ loves to hate about the little red headed transgirl who talks too much in the bathroom and makes her friend uncomfortable. Apparently this isn't the universal truth I thought it was.

>>88615444
That's a dumb outfit for Carla.

And I suppose that counts as Sal knowing. But I think this is the only in-comic hint of Carla being trans until the hallway thing with Mary. There's still too little information for readers to learn that Carla is trans.
And if we're supposed to assume that Carla being tall means that she's trans, then I'd love to know what Willis thinks of any woman taller than six feet in height.

>>88615493
I'm sure Carla's shared it with her family, though it could always change when Willis needs a sob story for Whatever The Webcomics Equivalent Of The Webby Awards Are.

Willis seems to be treating Carla's trans status as an open secret in-universe. Everybody can tell she's trans, but nobody says anything about it.

>>88615567
>That's a dumb outfit for Carla.

...dear god, could it be that simple? Could the reason everyone knows Carla is trans but doesn't talk about it simply be Carla's constant wearing of tight bicycle shorts?

>>88615694
>Carla, do you have to wear those shorts? Your... It's...
>What, Mary? Is your pure Christian mind too simple to comprehend a woman with a penis?
>First of all, meme arrow woman. Secondly, it's that your hulking cock is poking out of one of your shorts legs, and... Oh God, is it dripping?!

>>88615128

>I don't think Willis would want to perpetuate the idea that trans people are easy to detect.

Which in the grand scheme of things, is pretty fucking inconsiderate. Because it makes trans people who ARE easy to detect feel even shittier about their inability to pass. It'd be like if you made a comic and every girl had a figure like a supermodel. Or every male was built like the hulk. Your character stops being relateable

>>88615751
>It won't be the only thing dripping in a minute
>OH GOD! NOT LIKE THIS! NOT LIKE THIIIIIIS!

>>88615694
>>88615751
>"Goddamnit Carla, if you're gonna wear shorts could you have the decency to wear underwear!?"

>"Carla you did an ollie over me and it slapped me in the face!"

>"Carla there's literally a hole in this one. Trans or not this is straight up indecent exposure. And why is it getting harder? Carla stop it!"

>>88616003
>>88616008
>C-Carla! You idiot... You could have been gentler... You had better take responsibility when the baby's born!
>Wait, what?

And then it becomes a wacky sitcom.

>>88615954
This is a really good point, so count on Willis to acknowledge it and try something like this.

But you're totally right, not all trans* pass and the point of transitioning isn't only to pass. So it's not rude or insulting to acknowledge that concept. But I imagine Willis will pretend it's not a thing ever, because he's afraid of offending someone.

>>88616029
>>88616008
>>88616003
>>88615751
And we've come full circle. I fucking despise this comic but I love these threads.

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And here's the new strip.
You're welcome. Praise be to Patreanon that he may return.

>>88616494
This whole Amber-Sal thing is really wrapping up in the most anticlimactic way possible.

>>88616494
Looks like this strip is meant to explain the confusion about the two pictures we had a few weeks back.
Though it doesn't quite explain if the photo Amber took was deleted from the social network she supposedly posted it to or if it wasn't ever uploaded at all.

>>88616494
Will Amber ever get the help she desperately needs for her constantly growing dissociative identity disorder?

>>88616494
>>88616535
This is starting to feel like a bit of a cop-out, where both sides of Amber/Amazi-Girl are aware of each other, and can shift gears whenever it's convenient.

Like the part of Batman Forever where Two-Face flips a coin to see if he goes on a rampage or not... and then keeps flipping until he gets the result he wants.

>>88616494
That's not how file deletion works at all. Willy should have used "delete the files, and then write over that data to make them unrecoverable".

>>88616494
>I secretly had 2 photos the whole time!
>So all the intrigue about if we still had a photo of Ryan or not actually didn't matter in the slightest

I thought I'd be mad but I just feel nothing

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>>88616575
I wonder how "That wasn't me, that's Other Me!" would stand up in court if Amazi-Girl took over and assaulted someone.

>>88616494
This is just terrible.

>>88616558
Yeah I don't get the photo thing
>Lucky for him... delete files permanently
But she said she has another photo. So, the implications or permanent deletion are... what exactly? And she has his photo, but she's waiting for him to strike?

She should just pull a Sherlock Holmes and hire bored kids to find this guy, they could do it in a small fraction of the time it's taken her, even in-comic.

>>88616630
Well I mean I guess that's what's implied. I'd rather not have her take up time explaining the logistics in an already glacial comic.

>>88616249
It's for that reason why I don't find Claire from QC very inspiring. And Carla's basically the same character.

1. Any "Good" characters refuse to call attention to it, even in sitiuations where it feels unrealistic to not mention it.

2. "Bad" characters only use it as a fault vaguely and don't really build on it in any significant way, so as not to trigger them

3. They have GREAT lives surrounded by friends and family that love them and yet they constantly reference how HARD life is for them. The good ol' tell don't show method. So far the WORST thing we've seen happen to Carla due to being trans is that someone rudely said she was a boy.

4. Barely anyone has questions (I'd argue that Claire is slightly better in this regard because Marten at least asked...a couple questions). But everyone just...accepts trans people, calls them their preferred pronouns and doesn't for a second have any questions or have any difficulty accepting it or have followup questions. Everyone (barring "bad" characters) is just immediately understanding, accepting and have no inquiry.


It's the laziest way at representation, especially for a group so specific and unique. It's like saying "I love Mexico" when you really mean you just love the food and music and don't give a shit about them as people.

This is a better example of "appropriation" than white people rapping or something. You're literally taking a minority and using them to gain sympathy points but not developing them as a character or delving into what informs their decisions beyond the most BASIC version of discrimination.

>>88616575
Of course not. He's going to keep it going until he has an "amazing" and "introspective" internal battle where Amber and Amazi-Girl duke it out inside her own head, at the end of which one emerges victorious.

>>88616613
That's pretty much what it is.

>>88616630
It's possible to permanently delete files, but it's a process that needs to go uninterrupted as the deletion program writes zeroes over the deleted information.

>>88616648
They did say there were two photos, but the question is whether or not the second one (which Ryan deleted) was uploaded to Social Media before deletion.

>>88616695
>They did say there were two photos, but the question is whether or not the second one (which Ryan deleted) was uploaded to Social Media before deletion.
Okay, so they have a second photo. Why doesn't Amber upload it to the Facebooks and let the angry soccer moms mob him. Did Willis give an answer?

>>88616494
>Ah betcha yer up here in case he shows up for Dorothy or Wonderbread, huh?

What, are they worried that Ryan's gonna come over and start attacking people in order to get back at them? He's an attempted rapist who was scared that he'd get exposed, not a god damn supervillain.

>>88616494
Why would he be looking for Danny? Because his name's in AG's phone?

Also, why would anyone assume a rapist trying to hide would come looking for anyone at all? He's going to somehow find Dorothy, disable her, take her phone, bypass the lock, and delete the photo hoping there are no backups? All while avoiding Jumpsuit Savant and her chauffeur?

Y'know what's way easier and safer? Not doing anything, laying low, and then denying the charges because there's no evidence.

The blobs of dark in Amber's hair don't really look good. I'm not an artist so maybe it's fine and I'm wrong, though.

>>88616761
stupid question, has Rapin Ryan ever even seen Danny?

>>88616494

This dialogue is clunky and clumsy as all hell.

Every time Amber refers to that "other self" thing I cringe a little too.

>>88606708
Largely, yes

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honest question, does Willis think that every woman on earth is or at would be a lesbian?

does a true hetero female not exist in his mind?

Or is he actually writing Robin playing 4D chess with Leslie's feelings? Like shes a Machiavellian schemer who knows exactly how to manipulate people to her whim?

>>88616730
The first photo went to Dorothy. Amazi-Girl supposedly sent the second to Unnamed Social Network.

>>88616761
That would be a better story than the whole-lotta-nothing we've got so far. Hell, I suggested in these threads back when the whole Amazi-Girl/Ryan thing went down that it would be great if Ryan decided to go after Joyce because he assumed that she had sent Amazi-Girl after him.

>>88616793
I assume the logic is that since Danny is Amazi-Girl's boyfriend he'd go after him.

As for the art, I can't help but see Amazi-Girl squatting like a slav in the last panel.

>>88616924
No, Robin is just legit that dumb.

And yes/no. Willis created a world where every girl is a lesbian so he can be a god like creature and watch/force them to do sexual acts for his ego and sexual pleasure

>>88615552
I wouldn't consider either of those two "transgender" honestly, they seem to not necessarily want to be women so much as they want to be "trans" itself. They want to be in a perpetual state of transitioning but will never consider themselves that gender. They want to stay in the grey area forever so they can use it as a sheild.

>>88599251

Edit, yes?

>>88616983
See the dick with eyes in the first panel, on the wall?
That's the sign of an edit.

>>88616962
>I assume the logic is that since Danny is Amazi-Girl's boyfriend he'd go after him.
He doesn't know anything about Amazi-Girl, though. Unless that made it into the school newspaper article (which seems like something she'd hide to keep him safe). The only stuff he'd know is what's in the phone.

>>88608979
Remember that time Walky imagined Dorothy as a "literal nagging bitch"?

>>88617032
member that time Willis made a magnet out of it and sold it for money

>>88617025
I meant to imply it was Sal's logic.
I have no reason why Ryan would target Danny, unless he wanted to rape him next.

>>88617032
Indeed.
I just wonder why Willis gives her nothing to do other than be a straight man, fuck Walky, and pretend she'll get into Yale. Dorothy is the character that Willis supposedly aspires to be, after all.

>>88616971
My SJW sister explained it as the difference between transgender and transsexual. That is, transgender people are comfortable just dressing up and acting, while transsexual want go all the way and change their body.

A lot of the problem is that SJWs as a whole seem to want to exist in this flux state between reality and ideal. In the real world, gender and shit matters and not everyone is okay with their "girl"friend having a dick. In their ideal world, nothing matters and everyone is accepting of everything. They seem to recognize that the ideal world isn't the real world. So they want to do this weird stop-gap measure of making gender and shit matter while also making everyone accepting of it. In other words, they want you to know your girlfriend has a dick and they want you to like it.

I miss my old sister from before tumblr destroyed her mind.

>>88616668
Best case scenario for her is a successful insanity defense and getting stuck in the court-mandated psychiatric system, which (from what I've heard in my group therapy sessions) is not a bucket of laughs and feel-good montages.

Otherwise, and more likely, she's declared mentally ill but fit to stand trial (a la John du Pont) and ends up in jail for, two or three decades.

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>>88617228
In practice there's very little difference between the two.

As a /pol/tard, I'd severely suggest Trannies keep their dicks, because there are plenty of guys into that, who are, of course, derided as "chasers" so whatever.

Trans Girls still want Chad, I guess.

>>88617067
>I have no reason why Ryan would target Danny, unless he wanted to rape him next.

Hmmm...
>Ryan, so mad that Amazi-Girl is on his tail, decides to strike out against someone close to her the only way he knows how.
>Leaves his calling card (Which is of course the initials RR except one R is raping the other R) and a picture of him balls deep in Danny to mess with Amazi-Girl
>AG: That fiend! He struck again before I could capture him. Come, Sal, ol' chum, we'll try and pick up the trail.
>Sal (staring at photo): Daaayum! Danny looks hornier th'n uh milkmaid ridin' uh horse bareback! I'll just keep thiyus for... evideyunce.
>AG: Smart thinking, my swarthy sidekick! Perhaps we can identify him based on his well-proportioned torso. Quickly, to the Amazi-Cycle!
>Sal: I thought I told y'all, t' stop callin' my bike thayut.
I... I kinda want the story to become exactly this outlandish.

>>88616678
Claire's generally better than Carla because she actually has a personality outside of 'complete asshat' or 'perpetual victim' and Jacques is willing to make her wrong every once in a while, but I do sort of get your point.

From my point of view as a black guy, sometimes it's just nice to see someone of your minority not have to deal with the problems that seem so inherent to your way of life. So Claire's not necessarily a good character for representing the stresses of life as a trans person, but she's still a good character for transpeople because if she's having a bad time, it's because one of her bad jokes went wrong or she got too involved in her brother's love life instead of having a bad time specifically because she's trans. Basically, what Willis thinks he's doing with Becky, but not shit.

>>88617228
As an ex-tumblr person, I don't know where she's getting the distinction from. It's mostly a matter of what term people feel more comfortable using. Nowadays, that's transgender. In the past, it was transsexual.

And it's sort of a combination of self-esteem repair and being seen as normal. Basically, if you're not cishet, you've lived most of your life feeling like you're a freak of nature because the majority of society and modern media and such focuses on sufficiently manly dudes making out with sufficiently feminine ladies. So stuff like 'gay pride' and 'trans pride' and such functions as an antidote. Basically saying 'yes, you're a dude who wants to suck a dude's dick, and you're not bad for wanting that' or 'yes, you want nothing more than to identify as a dude for the rest of your days, and you're not bad for wanting that'. Ideally, things'll move into a sort of society where sex/gender weirdness is considered sufficiently less weird, and then trans pride will be much less prevalent because there aren't as many bad feelings that need to be reversed. But until then, LGBT pride functions as an intermediate step that'll become less important as the movement grows more successful. Like the tail on a tadpole.

>>88617402
nobody asked, reddit

>>88617228
seems like a meaningless differentiation

>>88617402
I will concur, and add, that though an artificially constructed vagina may look pleasing externally, it will never feel as good ion person for either party and even if you're sterilized, if your junks intact, you'll still be able to transition back.

>>88617651
I think she may have been confusing the trap/trans/crossdresser argument of the late 00's

>>88617933
>may look pleasing externally
That's a big if unto itself

>>88617946
true, it's based on the skill of the surgeon and the amount of material they have to work with.

a shack in Guatemala will probably produce poor results.

>>88616924
Straight:
1. Mary
2. Rapin’ Ryan
3. One of the Rachels (there are two)
4. Agatha (blonde Mormon)
5. Dorothy
6. Walky
7. Joyce
8. Amber/Amazi-Girl
9. Sarah
10. Sal
11. Jocelyne/Josh (likes guys) (Joyce’s sibling)
12. Roz
13. Joe
14. Jacob
15. Lucy (Malaya’s roomie)
16. Ken (pointless, works at Galasso’s)
17. Raidah (horrible person, hates Sarah, dating Jacob)

Bisexual:
1. Ruth
2. Marcie (mute, not deaf)
3. Billie
4. Danny
5. Mike (whichever preference spites you the most)
6. Sierra (footloose and fancy free)
7. Grace (dating Mandy, lives with her)
8. Mandy (looks like Willis)

Gay:
1. Becky
2. Leslie (Gender Studies prof)
Becky
3. Newspaper editor-in-chief (Daisy)
Becky
4. Ethan
Becky

Asexual:
1. Carla
2. Galasso (pizza man)

“Straight with an exception” (from Shortpacked!):
1. Robin
2. Malaya

Unknown but not straight:
1. Dina
2. Bryan (Tales of Sinterest)
3. Sayid (Tales of Sinterest)
4. Kaitlin (Becky’s old roomie)
5. Alice (Billie’s old friend)

Trans girl:
1. Josh/Jocelyne (straight [likes guys]) (Joyce’s sibling)
2. Carla (asexual)

Entirely unknown (mostly because they are background characters that no one cares about--I pulled names from tags under strips):
1. Sydney Yus (worked at Galasso’s)
2. Other Rachel (purple hair)
3. Riley (youngest DeSanto, likes cereal)
4. Dean McHenry
5. Peyton (faceless student)
6. Frieda (Robin’s assistant)
7. Taylor (intern)
8. Tyler (intern)
9. Dawson (intern)
10. Arnold (strawman from Shortpacked! that has been the background twice)
11. Tony (football player that Danny tried to pick a fight with)
12. Asma (Muslim at front desk)
13. Meredith (hasn’t been introduced yet)

>>88616494
A plot about Amber realizing that being Amazi-Girl could wind up hurting other people and that clarity allowing her to reach out to Sal as a person would have been a great story arc. Too bad what is happening is a muddled mess as far as character motivations and emotions go and the prior setup is all wrong.

>>88618124
that's not what I'm asking.

and agatha and roz are certainly gonna come out at some point. roz mainly because she wouldn't not have sex with a woman (sexual liberation and all).

This is more of a list of characters current rating on the Kinsey scale rather than their sexuality

>>88618124
Robin is not straight with an exception (which is a dumb turn of phrase I'd highly recommend not using). She was attracted to Leslie and Amber in Shortpacked. She's bi.

Malaya's a robofucker.

>>88618367
Malaya is attracted to people who are emotionally unavailable. it was also heavily implied that she wanted Kens dick only after he fucked conquest and started dating Lucy. (though I guess the implication might have been that she was playing hard to get but never got to the "get" part)

>>88617933
Think of it like this: all transsexuals are transgender, but not all transgenders are transsexual.

>>88617416
>BWAA-HA-HA! Foolish Amazi-Girl, you have fallen into my devious trap! One blast of my Rohypnol Ray and you and your swarthy sidekick will be helpless to fend off my dark love!

I've been watching Beware the Batman, and I kind of think Willis is basing his characterization of Amber and Amazi-Girl on that version of Bruce Wayne and Batman. Batman refers to Bruce as a different person, even to his allies who know they're the same person.

I'm pretty sure Willis has watched BtB because he did a follow up to his infamous "sexy Batman" comic acknowledging this Batman's plump, full lips.

>>88618526
Most incarnations of Batman have Batman as the personality, while Bruce Wayne is the front

>>88618526
I still find it hilarious that in that strip she basically described batman beyond (or spiderman or really any modern spandex wearing superhero) and drew early 2000's batman with an ~uguu face, somehow thinking men were insecure about looking anime faces.

>>88618508
well some people are just faggots wearing knee socks

>>88618584
>not wanting the feminine penis

>>88618593
I would prefer the only feminine penis in the equation be my own, thank you very much!

one of has has to be packing at least.

>>88618367
Robin explicitly states that's her orientation. I can't remember which strip, but when I Google it, there are several people corroborating it.

Malaya likes dudes. A lot. But she likes Ultra-Car, because they're both terrible.

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>>88618757
>>88618367
Finally found it.

---Pornographiques---
Walkyface (Walky Performs a Sex)
https://sli.mg/a/OpAn4s
Walkyface on roz (My Lesbian/Once We Hit 88MpH We're Gonna See Some Serious Clit)
https://sli.mg/a/yARBCg
Mask (Mask or No Mask?)
https://sli.mg/a/lJGjvn
Mike and Amber are terrible parents (The Most Epic of Hatefucks)
https://sli.mg/a/om4Xfh
Sal fucks her way to A (Head of the Class)
https://sli.mg/a/yV028q
Lesbians featuring speed lines (Finally)
https://sli.mg/a/Uwz6hW
Ropelingus (To the End of the Line)
https://sli.mg/a/zQiRaN
That one with the dick frotting and a batman reference (Tales of Sinterest)
https://sli.mg/a/gIzMX2

---Pinups---
Dorothy/Walky
http://sli.mg/a/RADWNf
Ethan
Sarah
Amber/Danny
http://sli.mg/4iagTF
Marcie
http://sli.mg/apktEi
Grace/Mandy
https://sli.mg/efTFT1
Mary
http://sli.mg/61SJKj
Exploitable Mary
https://sli.mg/a/8WPQhH
Mike
http://sli.mg/etD55l
Free Pinups
http://itswalky.deviantart.com/gallery/37947681/Pin-Up-Week

---"Joyce and Walky" Dump---
http://pastebin.com/5MwZPhsE

---VA Anon’s generous voice-over work---
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/pi3rlni1v293g/DoA_and_Shortpacked


If anyone can post Sarah and Ethan's pinups and the Imgur link to the Patreon-only strips, please do so!

If anyone is interested, I have a tumblr as well, and I'll take requests there, DOA related or not.
http://tomothecanadiancomrade.tumblr.com/

>>88607753
This is a big change but...pick up the pace and have it progress past freshman year.
And then with that do like, actual drama based on Dorothy choosing to leave/stay and complete that arc.

>>88608787
Yea, but the interactions mean more in the unposted originals. It's Dorothy trying to be there for Walky, which adds an element to their "friends with benefits relationship deepening" drama. The posted ones, while there's more dialogue, is just more "Wow what a bitch Mary is"

>>88609736
I feel like there's a strip where she says she's 1ish, but maybe I'm thinking of someone else.

>>88615444
>a woman can't be tall without being trans
Excuse me?

>>88616494
>programmed her phone to delete shit permanently
>didn't use a fucking lock screen

>>88617059
>>88617032

Wonder how many fans bought those "puppy" Dorothy magnets without a second thought.

>>88618834
Hey, an actual joke. I'm not used to that with Willis's work.

>>88619541
she programmed it to solve the lock screen permanently

>>88619806
she didn't program it, she just stole another app's code and reskinned the UI.

>>88619532

It's more like "a woman can't be trans without being tall." Also I cackled at Sal's preemptive dismissal of the notion that Carla might face discrimination on a roller derby team. Roller derby is no safe haven for trans women.

>>88620557
Why's that?

>>88616924

It's been said before, lesbians are a very safe option. The fact is that Willy is probably as uncomfortable with two dudes getting heavy as any normal person would be (not that he can admit it), adding onto the fact he probably thinks girl-on-girl is sexy.

My pet theory is that women are more easily inclined toward homoerotic behavior but I have no real basis for it so I try not to talk out of my ass.

>>88621462

Not him, but I'd imagine it has something to do with a natural advantage in strength and size.

>>88618757
>>88618834
I know that's what she says. It's not a real thing though and it's not true. Like I said, Robin is also physically attracted to Amber. She's bi.

>>88621742

>It's not a real thing though and it's not true

I don't think many people here would deny this, but you know it won't stop Willy and his nuts.

>>88621706
Any of the issues you'd see crop up with having a transperson on a sports team.

>>88621742
>>88621853
Straight/gay with an exception is a thing. Basically it's when a person experiences an arousal reaction opposite their orientation at the level of an arousal reaction matching their orientation. It's more of a research curiosity for people with low levels of bisexuality than anything.

Robin's probably just slightly bi. She's also brain-damaged in Shortpacked!.

>>88618175
Considering how Willis only decided now to introduce this supposed personality break between Amazi-Girl and Amber (though their roles are switched in your description), I'm holding hope that by the end of this DoA week, we see a battle of mentalis uber alles.

>>88618526
>>88618546
This, pretty much. A popular interpretation of the Batman/Bruce dynamic is that Batman is the dominant personality and Bruce is the alter-ego/secret identity. It's an interpretation that stems from the idea that Superman is the dominant personality and that Clark Kent is the secret identity.

>>88619541
She did use a lock screen.
She apparently didn't use a good lock combination or password, or possibly she didn't have the lock appear immediately upon putting the phone to sleep. Some phones let you delay the lock screen during a grace period.

>>88619399
It still boggles my mind how Willis thought that Walky being Billie's emergency contact was more useful information to a reader than Dorothy being supportive of Walky.

>>88623317
>a battle of mentalis uber alles.

Let us pray for a return to the dizzying highs of the Toedad Saga.

Walky being Billie's emergency contact could have had an emotional impact with a proper setup, but it'd require things to be seeded years ago. I think he could have gotten a decent emotional response, and have it fit what he's shown us before, if he revealed that the Walkertons were Billie's emergency contact instead of her dad.

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>>88615751
>First of all, meme arrow woman.

>>88619348
Why would Dorothy stay? Everyone she knows at IU is terrible.

>>88623394
Walky being Billie's emergency contact doesn't exactly make sense given how emergency contact information is set up when signing up for school. If Billie wasn't even thinking of Walky until the first day they ran into each other on school grounds, then there's very little reason for her to have put Walky does as her contact.

Further, was there even a reason to call Billie's emergency contact? It would have been Ruth's contact that they would have called.

>>88623464
She'll stay because she has too many friends at IU to leave them all behind just to pursue a better future. And friends are what REALLY matter after graduation.

>>88623317
>>88623394
>>88623495
I'm not surprised because the pace of this comic is glacial, but it's pretty lame that the emergency contact stuff hasn't been expanded upon yet. It's pretty important to explore why Billie chose Walky.

Her family is pretty hands off so it could be her not thinking they'd care. Or it could be her worrying about them finding out about more drinking infractions. Or it could be a genuine trust in Walky, or maybe he was the only name she could think of that isn't a family member. She would have to be pretty sure that Walky wouldn't contact her family about it, though.

I don't expect we'll find out more about it any time soon.

>>88623495
No, there is no reason for them to have called Billie's contact.

>Dorothy, you're leaving IU? But what about us and our friendship?
>Oh Joyce, you're an IU friend, I'm going to be making Yale friends soon and they're the ones that really matter. Don't worry, you'll be a humanizing anecdote about my concern for others in a ghost-written autobiography, so chin up. Oh, and can I have Billie's contact information? Her family's influence in local politics is exactly what I need to secure a political base without having to waste time on this cornfed, backwards hellhole.

>>88616924
Lesbians are the easiest way to win internet cred and money. It's a quick way to get the "progressive" crowd, as well as those just wanting moderately attractive nerd girls get it on.

>>88623800
What if I want to make a webcomic about two cute, nerdy lesbians who are Republicans having sexy adventures fighting for LGBTQ rights under the principle of limited government?

>>88595418
> UNINSTALL!
Holy shit, Willis really is a dumbass, isn't he?

>>88616494
>Super athletic crime-fighter
>Expert programmer who can make a custom OS
>Resident gamer and toy collector
For flip sake, Amber is such a friggin' Mary Sue.

>>88616793
The only reason he'd be looking after possible associates of Joyce's NOW would be to charge her for assault. No rapes were reported on campus the week it happened and Joyce never had a toxicology report done. She can claim up and down she was roofied, but if he has a good enough lawyer, he could claim he was scarred by Joyce and the bottle and savaged by a roommate.

Also note: he may very well have friends on the party to testify the same. For lack of supporting evidence, everything Joyce says will sound like an excuse.

>>88621853
Hence why the list has it in quotation marks. It's stupid but official. Found the Diversity Closet strip, and Robin says something along the lines of "generally undefinably queer." I can change it to that if people would prefer it.

>>88624245

You don't seem to understand how this is gonna go down, m8.

>Ryan the Rapist is gonna show up once more
>Shits gonna go down
>He's going to loudly proclaim something to the effect of "MY NAME IS RYAN [Last Name] AND IT IS MY INTENTION THAT I WILL VIOLATE YOU SEXUALLY LIKE I ATTEMPTED TO DO ON THE DATE OF [Date of Attempted Rape] AT [Time]"
>He'll be rekt with a bat or by Amazigirl again
>It'll turn out somebody was recording
>"NOOOO MY EVIL RAPEY PLAN!!!1!!1!@1!"

>>88624107
What, you don't have an operating system that announces your actions as they happen? I have mine set up to say "Typing 4chan Post" as I type a 4chan post, and to say "Sending 4chan Post" when it's submitted.

>>88624223
Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on how you look at it), she's not as much of a Mary Sue as Becky has been. She was literally handed a person's job after they fired for trying to fuck with her.

>>88624107
>>88624541
It's a fucking joke, guys. The Incredible Hercules comic did it all the time with their sound effects.

>>88624511
I really want Ryan and Amber to turn into an over-the-top, Batman tv show-esque, camp extravaganza.

>>88599251

Wow, Mary's got huge tits in this edit.

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>>88625768
They're not huge enough, in my opinion.
We need more oppai fanart.

>>88625820

Mary was already fuckin perf, you shit

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>>88625865
That's Subjective.

>>88625394
I'm aware it's a joke. But it's a joke better suited for action sequences. Y'know, like PUNCH! KICK! FAPPO! SWERVE! DODGE!

Not actions like UNINSTALL! REGURGITATE! SOLILOQUIZE!

>>88625865
But if Mary didn't have stonking huge knockers, then how would she be able to recreate her paizuri fantasies with Carla?

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>>88626050
>But if Mary didn't have stonking huge knockers, then how would she be able to recreate her paizuri fantasies with Carla?
Now that's a good porn comic idea.

>>88626050
>>88626209
>Mary tries to give Carla a titjob
>they're barely adequate to do the job
>Mary keeps looking up at Carla's larger, rounder breasts
>"U mad?"

>>88626379
>Mary goes missing for a weekend
>comes back with bigger tits
>explains she got a boob job and went two sizes up
>Carla says she didn't need to do that for her
>especially since she could have just gotten her parents to do the same thing they did for her
>"I mean, look at these things. They're SO much more realistic than those pinecones."

>>88626660
I like the idea that Mary isn't as good at being a girl as Carla because Carla had to actively seek it out and Mary had to basically ignore a lot of aspects of femininity because she had to be a good christian girl. Like Carla knows all sorts of tricks and techniques with makeup and Mary just wasn't really allowed to wear 'whore paint' and doesn't know what to do with it.

>>88621573
>more easily inclined
I'd say that this is more nurture than nature, like a combo of girl friendships being "closer" and more likely to have mild physical interaction, plus the "girl-on-girl is sexy" you mentioned meaning they don't have the same casual disdain from outsiders (at least, in the U.S.).

>>88627136
i'm sure you do.

>>88623464
This is the AU not-Willis universe where there's some non-assholes.

>>88623495
>She'll stay because she has too many friends at IU to leave them all behind just to pursue a better future. And friends are what REALLY matter after graduation.


Im presuming this is a joke.

Yeah, seriously though I can't see Dorothy NOT being completely unwilling to drop her friends at a moments notice if it advances her personal selfish agenda

>>88627844
It's partially a joke. It's a trope that characters in stories give up opportunities like that to stay with the friends they've made. I wouldn't be surprised if a similar fate befalls Dorothy when it comes time for her to move on, if at all.

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>>88626379
>Mary keeps looking up at Carla's larger, rounder breasts

>>88617241
>two or three decades
For assault? I amit i don't know much about the judicial system and how the law works but isn't that little much?

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>>88610016
Holy shit where on tfwiki was this
I want to see this so bad

>>88607753

Very first strip of DOA changed into Billie-turned-succubus riding a whimpering, blushing Danny Milquetoast so she can get knocked up with his hellspawn, while the campus with ALL other characters burns to ashes and cinders in the background; final panel: [white text on black]THE END OF DOA.[/text]

>>88631402
>Billie/Danny
That's an unusual ship.

>>88631686
It's canon endgame in the other universe.

>>88627544
There's actually a whole history about 'romantic friendships', where two girls or two dudes would girl it up or dude it up as much as they could together, but not to the point where it was considered gay.

Then, around the mid 1800s or so when the Victorian modesty era started kicking in, people started going 'hey, those two dudes/girls having tons of sleepovers and holding hands and possibly kissing is kind of gay', so that all got culturally scaled back until it was only okay for, like, high school girls to get away with that sort of malarkey

>>88607753
Schlock Mercenary, another webcomic that uses the newspaper comic strip format, has a thing where every Sunday, we have a strip that's three times larger than a regular strip.

I think being forced to do at least one supersized strip a week would force him to give slightly more shit about everything on a whole.

Plotwise? Drop the timeline and make one plot dominant per book chapter rather than stuffing every subplot in haphazardly,.

>>88627136

She's a generic baptist in college anon, not a hardcore mormon living in a commune in Utah.

>>88625768
I think it's based on Malaya.

>>88632901
>high school girls
I've read in Japan high school boys can kinda get away with it too, as long as when they graduate they get respectable with a wife+salary job.

>>88635716
nah it's called skinship

it's just guys touch each other, sit in each other's lap etc because it shows friendship and familiarity

it's insanely "no homo" though

>>88617431

Honestly, I know some people have it rough even today but it's like every single non straight white person on the strip is treated like an after school special.

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The latest. For no reason, we've skipped ahead several hours into the next day of events, and without having ever learned what a "glower vacuum" is.

Well, at least we're due a smiling Mary in a week. Maybe even sooner.

>>88636511
seriously, every single time Willis almost has a character grow he completely changes gears to go to another story

>>88636930
I honestly didn't expect the scene shift.
Are we just to assume that Sal and Amber said nothing while staking out for Ryan the next five or so hours?

>>88636973
the alt text for friday's said it was the end of that storyline

>>88636511

>we've skipped ahead several hours into the next day of events

Wha... this is... unprecedented... I don't understand what's going on...

>>88637070
Ah. Well, it's still an unceremonious ending. It's ending the story in the middle of a sentence instead of on a period.

>>88637070
Willis is such a bad writer he has to literally tell us when the story ends because he doesn't know how to do it in the plot

fuck me

>>88637163
That's also a good point.
The end of Book Five with the reintroduction of Rapin' Ryan was a better ending than Sal and Amber just sitting on a roof. Or is this Willis incorporating bookends again?

>>88636511
Willis has conditioned me to think those are a bunch of sex faces Sarah's making. (Honestly some of them probably work better than the agonized o-faces he does use)

>>88637200
>book starts with a flashback of Sal beating up kids on the playground for justice
>books ends with Sal smoking with a crazy two-face superhero

I uh...I don't think that's bookended right

>>88637216

Well her right hand is busy offscreen, so...

>>88637216
to his accidental credit, they do actually look like sex faces.

seriously, it makes me wonder what faces his wife makes while she rams her strap-on deep into his man-cave.

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>>88637247

>>88637229
I assumed the whole thing at the political rally was the true beginning of the story. I always saw the flashback as pointless fanservice, especially since it was a poll that determined its existence in the first place.

>>88637247
He probably has mirrors or cameras set up in his room while she shoves unlubricated dragon dildos into his ass so that he can use his own reactions as reference material.
Y'know, since he apparently ONLY uses reference material and can't ever improvise.

>>88636511
>>88637079
This isn't your average everyday bad pacing.
This is...advanced bad pacing.

>>88637330

Nigga "advanced bad pacing" IS average everyday bad pacing for David "Knobgobber" Willis.

>>88637330
for David "Here-I-Come-Grandma" Willis, "advanced bad pacing" would require switching to someone else's webcomic every fourth day

>>88637240
>Sarah secretly masturbates in front of Joyce all the time
>she spent weeks trying to build up the nerve to ask Joyce to join her
>then the Becky rejection happened and Sarah knew it was never going to happen
>she still secretly masturbates when Joyce is around but it's just not the same anymore

>>88637651
>>Sarah secretly masturbates in front of Joyce all the time
Honestly would not surprise me if that were true.

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>>88638094
She does it not so secretly in the comic.

Makes me wanna do an edit of today's dialogue.

>>88638274
>Sarah begrudgingly pleasures herself, her orgasm doing little to ease her frustration at Jacob's rejection and her continuing inability to help a young, sheltered Christian girl learn to please her body