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Batman: I Am Suicide Storytime

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>So, that's it, huh? We're the patsies.
>We're some kind of I Am Suicide...

With the conclusion of Tom King's second arc of Batman, it's time to do the tale from the start (and hopefully storytime issue #13 upon release)

Get comfy, folks. We're going to the center of Santa Prisca.
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I'm not sure if I should post Bane Eater as the thread theme or not
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>>88573871
I dare you.
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>>88573892
>Weskler

How did they fuck up this bad?
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>>88573887
>>88573790
You asked for it.
Official Thread Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObvywAUi5uQ
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Reminder that King says this issue has the first threads of three events in it.
My guess (besides JLvSS) is Hypercrisis with Saturn Girl, and a Joker-related event with Ventriloquist
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I've actually really enjoyed this arc more than I am Gotham. I think part of what makes it weird is the arc feels a bit 'artsier', for lack of a better word, in its writing and thematic structure than the first arc, which was kinda fulfilling a big dumb action movie quota. there's been some depth these past coupla issues
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>>88573922
I've been playing this in my iTunes since you reminded me I had it downloaded.
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>>88573936
The third event is clearly I am Bane.
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>>88573936
I have a theory that The Batgirl Annual will handle Saturn Girl. No idea on when they'll tackle Joker.
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Now listening to Nuclear.
https://youtu.be/FE6RuZuvjMs
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>>88574059
Next issue of Harley Quinn is doing Joker.
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>Norrin Radical
Reminder this namefag was posting how he had two anxiety attacks on the day Trump was elected.
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This is a storyline with a couple improbable injuries.
No way in hell she could run with a torn ACL.
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>>88573790
The first issue of this arc was so good. Middle part has been shaky with the dialogue and characterizations but I'm hoping this is all part of Tom "I'm CIA" King's master plan. I guess we'll find out soon enough. Thanks for the storytime Norrin.
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>>88574248
Here's hoping this page is foreshadowing the long con
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What did I say?
MORE improbable injury!
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>>88574076
>>88574081

Is Bane lounging around naked? I vaguely thought about it a few times, but I just realized it doesn't look like he's wearing any pants.
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>>88574310
King's confirmed he's nude.
Janin's choice, I believe.
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This issue is a good example of why I don't read previews early+issues while I storytime them for the first time.

Reading this physical was a blast.
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Also, it allowed me to form my own opinion on the "addition" to the origin.
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And here we are at the penultimate part.

Now we play the waiting game...
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some wallpapers to ward off the wait
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>>88574360
Fucking why?
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>>88574545
The mask gives him the venom.
No need for mask if sober.

Which is weird, considering all the covers.
also, pants.
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>>88573862
Die girl pls.
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>CA: You also have this new incarnation, or new iteration, of Bane. Who I’ve been thinking of as “Naked Bane.”
>TK: I like Naked Bane! That’s all Mikel [Janin]. When I was thinking about how to do Bane, I went to Brando in Apocalypse Now, where he’s pouring water over his head, and talking about errand boys.
>I sent that clip to Mikel, and I said, “This is what I’m thinking of for Bane. Someone who talks very calmly and distinctly, but is kind of spooky-looking in the shadows,” and Brando’s not wearing a shirt in that scene, or you can’t tell because it’s so dark, so Mikel drew him naked, and he later asked the question, “Do you want me to put clothes on him?” And I didn’t know if we were allowed to do that, but the editor was like, “Yeah, no clothes.”
>I like it. It’s hard to find a unique look for a Batman villain. Everything like a scar on the face, or a skin condition, there are so many unique signifiers taken. But an utterly naked, hairless man. That’s something new. And Mikel found it.


From
>http://comicsalliance.com/tom-king-batman-12-i-am-suicide-interview/?trackback=tsmclip
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Deh-Shay Deh-Shay Bah-Sah-Rah Bah-Sur-Rah!
Deh-Shay Deh-Shay Bah-Sah-Rah Bah-Sur-Rah!
Deh-Shay Deh-Shay Bah-Sah-Rah Bah-Sur-Rah!
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>>88574115
Who gives a shit? Fuck off faggot.
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>>88574310
u mirin?
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>>88574521
It's after 3 where I am now, so I'm turning in.
Thanks for the storytime OP.
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>>88574657
fuck this issue was so good, /co/ will probably act like it's shit though.
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>>88574115

Really? lmfao.
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Where's Bane's dick?
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>>88574777
King is so bad.
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>>88574795
remember this is a bane without venom
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Thanks for reading.
Tune in next month for Mitch Gerads on a two-part epilogue: "Rooftops".

Support the official release!

JLvSS here: >>88574840
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>>88573790
OP please storytime the new issue in a new thread please. I can't be assed to waste all my bandwith opening all these images when I use the automatic thread image enlarger plugin, and I don't want to risk seeing some spoilers in the thumbnail.
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>>88574892
get over it, he already story timed the issue and has moved on to other books.
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>Batman calling Catwoman "Cat" instead of "Selina"

It just feels wrong
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>>88574915
ah fuck welp. Didn't realize. That's ok
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>>88574941
This whole thing feels wrong.
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>>88574704
...FOR YOU!
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>>88574727
He's a pirate junkie. I remember Simone doing something similar with Mad Hatter.
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I still have night of the monster men storytime open in a tab a few months back, haven't gotten around to it, thanks for doing these
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>>88574115
Gay
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>>88574828
Is he making fun of Bane or is he genuine? His expression doesn't change at all
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>>88574802
Ok, this was pretty cool. Speaking of Ventriloquist. What happened to the female one from Secret Six?
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>>88575049
I took it as mocking/threatening him
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>>88574809
>>88574802
That was kind of dumb. Why couldn't Psycho Pirate randomly affect this guy?
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>>88575090
Because he was trying to control Wesker instead of Scarface?
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people will defend this
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>>88575133
Then why didn't Wesker get scared?
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>>88574678
>/co/ will probably act like it's shit though.
I don't think highly of it...
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>>88575201

You guys didn't like Snyder. You don't like King.

You can suck Grant Morrison's cock forever, but he's never going to marry you, /co/.
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>>88575090
Because he's a phantom personality that also doesn't have a face to emote with.
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>Waller just literally walking in the batcave and stealing files while Alfred looks

W O A H
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>>88574678
/co/ now hates King that he's on a big book, double that because the book is Batman. /co/ hates everyone that writes Batman while they're writing it.
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>>88575090
>needing spoonfeeding this badly
Jesus. No wonder some of you don't like King's run.

He's not real fucking person. He's just a hand.
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>>88574802

So Batman couldn't have thrown some knockout gas or something here? He had to lug Ventriloquist all the way here just to put down Psycho-Pirate? And he couldn't affect Wesker because Wesker's crazy?

>>88574809

Bronze Tiger was only brought along just to rendezvous with Wesker and then knock him out?

>>88574819

Punch and Jewlee's part of the plan was just to make a bubblegum raft?

>>88574777

After beating up Bane's entire army, he gets manhandled by Bane and then Catwoman beats him with one kick?


This was one of the most senseless and illogical plans I've ever seen. Was this entire arc a joke? Why was it necessary for Batman to put himself at Bane's mercy at the beginning of the story, again? Why did Bane leave him all his gear and inside an unguarded cell? How did Batman know Bane would try to incinerate Punch and Jewlee, and also lock up Bronze Tiger with easy access to venom? I feel like Batman's entire plan hinged on Bane being a complete imbecile.
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>there are people here right now that doubted based King
>there are people here right now that don't like his run
>there are people here right now that really thought he made Catwoman kill Punch and Jewelee
Once again proving beyond doubt that Bat fans are literally the worst fanbase.

Get down on your knees and pray to based King for his forgiveness.
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at least we get All Star this week
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>>88575395
I thought that was next? Or did they push it early?
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>>88575382

Once again Kingfags prove they are literally the worst fanbase.
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>>88575162
You just don't get it, anon.
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>>88575405
guess I was wrong
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Thanks for the storytime.

When Selina said "the pain" I pissed myself, it's so deadpan.
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>>88575382
>proving beyond doubt that Bat fans are literally the worst fanbase.
So, wait, you don't like Batman?
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This was really forgettable.
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>>88574941
Well, does Bane know Selina is Cat? Maybe it's to hide her identity, you know how anal Batman is about it
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>>88575610
>Maybe it's to hide her identity
So: the opposite of over on 'Tec where the motherfuckers can't seem to go more than a page or two without using each other's real names?
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What was the fucking point of the arc and fake betrayal?
Why not just assault and beat the shit out of everybody, since Batman have done it solo almost twice?
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>>88575610

They were still calling each other "Bat" and "Cat" when they were alone. It's not about them not calling each other by their real names around others, more about them constantly using nicknames you'd think a teenage couple would use over and over again.
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woah, the squad was literally pointless
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>>88575237
I liked Snyder's Batman but I didn't like his stories
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>>88575347
something something... kekaku
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>>88575610
Selina was officially arrested and tried and sentenced and being held in a government penal facility.
Her name and identity are public information.
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Couldn't Batman have just gotten Bane on the phone and said "Hey, I know you have Psycho Pirate, could you swing by Gotham for a day with him and have him fix this girl he broke? I'll take us all to lunch, we can catch up, and best of all no backs get broke!"
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>>88575750
That's a fair point and I'm retarded, guess it's just King artistic choice to go with the whole theme of 'Bruce and Selina are already dead'
... I don't like it
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>>88575824
But how would we get "break your damn back" page after page after page?
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>>88575833
Batman could say "Bane you're gonna break your damn back if you keep hauling Pirate around without proper leverage!"
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>>88575852
Kek, got me there.
I'd still prefer it your way.
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Why does Bane need Psycho Pirate anymore anyway?

If the effect of his powers were temporary Batman wouldn't need him to cure Gotham Girl
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>>88575868
I'm assuming it's repairing a Pirate caused mental instability vs numbing an addiction to Venom with happy thoughts.
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>>88573994
she really killed 237 people ?
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>>88575868

The alleviate Bane's suffering and suicidal thoughts.

No, seriously.

Tom King is writing this story as if every character did what they do as a coping mechanism to deal with their existential pain. Dude got issues.
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>>88575973
Yep.
>>88576000
Or he's of DUDE SUFFERING LMAO school of thought when it comes to comics.
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>>88575973
Nope.

>>88574515

The World's Greatest Detective's hunches are rarely wrong. He says Catwoman's lying. She claims to have killed people, but the truth is another matter altogether. It's a mystery he has yet to solve.
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>>88576034

The only reason he thinks Catwoman is lying about killing the terrorists is because as two suicidal fucks "Cat" should know that death is a choice you make, not something you impose on others.

That's it. He doesn't believe her because of his weird little romantization on suicide.
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>>88576063
jesus what happened to Batman comics
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is it just me or does this art look like it relies too much on Poser CGI?
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>>88576063

Yes, that's what I said. Batman's hunches are never wrong. Are you saying he's wrong, or something? Because I feel like that's a ridiculous notion, given the context.
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>you will never see Selina go on a killing spree
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>>88574139
I seriously wonder if that would work.
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>>88576092

It's not a hunch, though, it's a fucking stupid belief.
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>>88574704
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>>88576124

King's writing them like they're soulmates, so you're expected to accept that they understand each other at their core.

If anything, it's weirder that Catwoman suddenly understands Batman so well, when last we saw her in the Post-Flashpoint universe she still didn't even know his identity. Batman getting everything about Catwoman just makes sense.
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I liked the bane scenes but wew,Batmans plan was way too convulted and relied way too heavily on chance.Why did batman get himself captured?Why did bane leave his weopons unguarded?How did Bruce know bane would try to incenarate those two instead of shoot/kill them,how did he know the once station machine led straight to the ocean,Why not use has or literally anything else to take out psychotic pirate,Weskers role was clever but at the same time very forced.And bronze tiger was really underutilized.Also why is Alfred such a puss,didn't even take out his patented shotgun
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>>88576158

What's weirder is that is that Batman, Catwoman and Bane are all suicidal fucks that do their thing as a form of suicide.

Which brings me to my hunch: i think Catwoman really killed those terrorists and that Batman will kill Bane.

From future solicits we know that Bane will try to break up, his monster, by attacking his entire family including Catwoman. We also know that Batman will have to make a choice about where he stands regarding Catwoman that will change things forever.

My guess?
Catwoman really killed those terrorists for bombing the orphanage she grew up. Yeah, she's suicidal and she thinks that death is a choice you make, not something you push unto others, but her pain and anger was so much that she broke her emo oath and killed those fuckers.
Which brings us to Bane, another suicidal fuck that constantly tries to challenge Batman because that's is his form of suicide. To pick a fight with a monster that one day will finally kill him. So Bane is out for revenge and will hunt the Bat-Family. He won't stop. He either will break everyone or die by Batman's hands.
Once Batman learns that Catwoman really killed those terrorists and there's no way out against Bane, he'll also break his emo oath and kill Bane, giving Bane his sweet surrender. Now that both Batman and Catwoman broke their emo vows and lost their suicide club cards, becoming both killers, Batman and Catwoman will be finally free from their weird... suicide thing. The decision Batman makes is to help Catwoman escape and be a couple with her.
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>>88574115
Well, some people care about what's happening around them.
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>>88576202
Don't forget that this next story arc is named "I am Bane."

Just like I am Gotham and I am Suicide, this one will have a twist on the meaning of the phrase that's sensitive to the plot of the arc.
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>>88576255
But the other 2 didn't have a twist on their name...
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>>88576262
It deceives the reader before they read the story.

For the first one, you read the name and think the story has to do with Batman's relationship with his city, and not literally about a new hero named Gotham and Gotham Girl.

For the second one, you think it's just a play on the fact that Batman is running his own Suicide Squad now, but really it's about his own subconscious motivation to be a vigilante.

And now for this third one, you would expect "I am Bane" to be about Bane taking back his iconic look and trying to make some big impact, or maybe Batman taking Bane's place and ruling over the people that follow him or something.

It'll probably have something to do with using the word Ban as meaning an antithesis, antidote or negation. "I(Batman) am (is the) Bane" of... something?

My idea while I'm thinking about it right now is "I (Batman) am (the) Bane (of my own mission, due to my mistakes/actions that take place during the arc.)" Or something to that effect.
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>>88576202
>Batman will kill Bane
Red-Hood-thumbs-up
BUT YOU COULDN'T KILL JOKER, COULDN'T YOU BRUCE?
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>>88576255
>I am bane
>arc with Batman's loved one

Gonna be about Batman being the bane of their lives and putting everyone he loves in danger

Jason and Damian are going to appear so we already know where this is going
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>>88576262
It depends on what you consider a twist, at the very least there's a double-meaning to them.

>I Am Gotham
Batman's relationship with the city as its protector as well as the introduction of Gotham and Gotham Girl.

>I Am Suicide
Batman recruiting his own suicide squad, dedicating his life to fighting crime being a form of suicide after losing his parents.

>I Am Bane
Well, obviously there's Bane himself, but the wordplay will probably have something to do with how Batman is a burden to his loved ones, putting them in danger for his actions.
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>>88576331

I still think he'll kill Bane.
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>>88574704
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>>88576369
Batman doesn't kill.
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>>88576378

Neither does Catwoman, but things will change. They will become killers and a couple.
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>>88576385
I wouldn't be surprised if Bane kills Catwoman or vice versa.
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>>88576385
Catwoman has killed before. Killed people in her last solo run while she was a mafia boss. You're an idiot that doesn't read comics and have been exposed now so there's no need for you to keep posting.
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>>88576404

She ordered a hit, she didn't kill anyone. There's a difference.
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>>88576331
>Jason and Damian

Jason and Damian KILL BANE ?
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>>88576331
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I think King is being too experimental for Batman.

Homestly.
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Batman is just too big of a character to do a complete characetr upheaval outside of a complete reboot.
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>>88574727
>>88574713
What's with all the ellipses?

Did Neal Adams write this?
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>>88576433
Damian did stick to the Batman Family's "no killing" rule.
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>>88576608
Damian has killed before so why would this be any different? Would he have a problem with his own son breaking their vow of not killing?
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>>88574828
Usually this arc word/echo device is used pretty well in King's work, but it just isn't working in his Batman run.

Why is this so?
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>>88575194
wesker isn't a person he's a puppet scarface the hand is the person
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>>88575868
jesus christ its literally shown in the first pages of this arc you dumb fuck
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How did/can Selina hurt Bane? Lol
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>>88576727
try again
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>suicide squad either did nothing or did nothing that Batman couldn't do himself
>Catwoman breaks Bane's back with a kick
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>>88576810
but that doesn't answer the question
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>>88574727
>Bane is gay for Pirate
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>>88574741
In the hands of editors
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>>88576840
See
>>88573845

You stupid fuck holy shit
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>>88577183
are you beating at this point?
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>>88574744
Thank Christ they're alive
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>>88575347
Punch is the only person to ever escape Santa Prisca, he knew the place. Jewlee came because presumably Punch wouldn't have done it with out her.
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>>88574836
lame
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Is there even a single time where Batman doesn't crash his new shiny Batplane?
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guess im in the minority but i really liked kings run so far, especially his use of giving more minor characters a chance to shine.
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>>88576662
Because it carries nothing behind it. The arc makes no sense, so the callbacks don't feel impactful.
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I mean the twist was predictable but I still enjoyed it. Kind of anticlimactic but whatever.
I'm too tired right now to think about any of the potential hole in plots and logic but, it's good? I don't know. It's certainly better than the dogshit that was first arc.
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>>88576662
Because he's a fucking hack and if you haven't figured it out already the schtick has worn thin and is amplified by being on a Batman book.
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Alright faggots, what's your problem with this arc now that not muh is mostly out of the equation?
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>>88574836

>"The pain."

Jesus this dialogue...I feel like King is just taking the piss out of us.
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>>88574688
This is so stupid
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>nobody even cares enough to shitpost
I really miss Snyder if only for the threads. This is a fucking barren land out here. God fuck King, he dropped the ball so hard.
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>>88574750
>tfw someone's sexual awakening happened on this page
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>>88578989
Is bubble-encasing a thing?
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>>88574845
Wait, what? They just left Bane there? with his minions? What's the point of this arc???
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>>88579638

There was only so much room on the bubble-gum raft. And the point was to get Psycho-Pirate so that he could "fix" Gotham Girl, not to lock Bane up.
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>>88579679
Can't they just make another bubble-gum raft?
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very good arc, like where this run is going
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>>88574115
He's posting Batman for everyone and he isn't saying anything about politics while doing so. This isn't /pol/, we're just doing comics now, thanks.
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>>88574709
Fuck you. He might be muslim or a dreamer. These are people's lives we're talking about. Also, he's posting Batman for you.
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King is so fucking bad and the worst thing is that he can't write Bane for shit.

Seriously DC if you don't fucking know what do with him, STOP USING HIM.
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>>88579638
Fucking Christ I'm getting Morrison PTSD flashbacks.

Bane was being genuine in just trying to be happy and kick Venom, but Batman needed Psycho Pirate to save Gotham Girl, and Bane be damned if it meant sacrificing him to save her.

The point of this arc was Batman doesn't care who he has to sacrifice to save those he loves. The next arc will be that logic biting him in the ass by Bane becoming addicted to Venom again directly cause of his actions and coming to break Batman.
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>>88574115
top lel
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>>88576355
I Am Gotham was way better than this trash
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>>88580276
Fuck right off you stupid fucking casual. Bane trying to kick his venom addiction but relapsing and then going to Gotham to break the Bat is classic fucking Bane. He was under the influence of Psycho Pirate this whole arc being made to be happy. No shit he wasn't tactical well thought out Bane, he was basically drugged up the whole time.
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>>88580770
You do know that Bane kicked off his Bane addiction on his first appearance after Knightfall, in the "Vengeance of Bane 2" story? That he did it out of sheer willpower and didn't need magical bullshit to do it? And how he was never under the venom influence again?
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>>88580688

Yeah, Bane seemed very reformed what with his illicit dealings with Strange for the posession of a human being, not to mention him LITERALLY sitting upon a throne of skulls. It's not Batman's fault he's too weak to deal with an addiction without enslaving Psycho Pirate.

And that wasn't the point of this arc at all you imbecile. How the hell did you come to that conclusion? How many times did King have to have Bruce, Bane, and Selina talk about dying and why they do the things they do in order for you to get it? It's even right there in the title of the arc.
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>>88580961
That they are Suicides? What they are doing is killing them?
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>>88578125
That's because it's a blatant advertisement
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>>88574704
>im gotham: crashing plane
>im sucide: for you

We are getting big guy in the im bane arc, rigth?
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>>88580924
>I havent read Secret Six
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>>88580961
Yes that was one aspect, so one "saving someone who needs to be saved" ie Bane doesn't deserve to be saved to Batman so he sacrificed him, and Bane is coming back in the next arc for retribution by targeting Bruce's loved ones. Get some reading comprehension. There isnt only 1 thematic per arc you dumb fuck.
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>>88581219
Once, during extenuating circumstances, right before the universe rebooted.
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>>88581241
And that was set as an "HOLY FUCKING SHIT" moment.
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>>88574802
>Scarface can pronounce the letter 'B'

Fucking dropped
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>>88581241
So what are you even trying to argue about? That Bane shouldnt relapse cause its out of character?

Youre an idiot. This is THE Bane story that hasnt happened in years, having Bane relapse because Batman broke him is entirely in character for Bane and will be a great milestone addition to his history.

Look kiddo, I've been reading comics for 2 decades, you can't have knee jerk reaction everytime a writer makes a character do something that hasnt been done in a long time or takes the character in a new direction. As long as it is in life with the general core of the character sit back and see where it goes.

People went ape shit when they brought a Robin back from the dead as an edgy vigilante but look, lo and behold some people love him today.
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>>88581194
>fourth arc: "I am CIA"
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>>88574115
Hey, if the cunt had won I'd have had some issues as well so I can't hate on him. I have no problem with people being effected by politics. It's not like he refused to story time because of it.
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>>88581302
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>>88581526
>>88581302
>Youre an idiot. This is THE Bane story that hasnt happened in years, having Bane relapse because Batman broke him is entirely in character for Bane and will be a great milestone
addition to his history.

Nope
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>>88581240

King hadn't relayed that message at all, retard. PP fucked Gotham Girl royally. Bane not only wouldn't share, but he gave Strange the venom he used to make monsters. He basically selfishly extradited PP for his own personal ownership. Batman meanwhile not only is helping an innocent girl who needs and deserves help far more than Bane does, but he's trying to help out inmates whose sentences he feels are too harsh by getting the gov't to lessen them as payment for helping Batman get PP out of the hands of an incredibly dangerous criminal.

He takes all the heat in his plan, acting as a lure to distract Bane and his forces while the others get to move in relative safety. He has no problem going to such lengths because he's already "dead" and puts no value on his own safety in his quest to help others. It's a statement on the fundamental motives of the character. At no point has Batman's actions been noted as selfish or favoritist. You convinced yourself of a message that isn't there.
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>>88574845
Well I'm sure this won't come back to bite Bats in the ass.
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>>88581734
Can't see how it could
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>>88581546
Yeah this is up there with "Victor Mancha is a secret drug addict" and "Kyle Rayner is a devout Catholic who speaks Spanish." King glances over a Wikipedia entry and then gets a bunch of details wrong fitting square pegs into round holes.
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>>88581840
You know what? Fuck it.

I'm storytiming an actual good Bane story instead of this bullshit.
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>>88581908
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>>88581908
You are just mad King wrote the definitive version of the character.

Oh wait that's Morrisonfags memeexcuse, I'll need a new one for King.
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>>88581927
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>>88581908
I forget, was this included in the Knightfall trades. I know the first one was
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>>88581952
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>>88581959
No, only the first one

>>88581965
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>>88581588
Nothing says selfless like cutting.
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>>88581908
The butthurt is real. King is too patrician for plebs.
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>>88581983
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>>88582004
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>>88578810
It's just shooting fish in a barrel at this point. I can't even bother reading the pseudo-intellectual King defense force's diatribes because there's nothing there.
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>>88581983
Well, that's something I never expected to see in a Bane's comic
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>>88582031
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>>88582027
this, this is reaching Batman v Superman level of delusions
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>>88582056
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>>88582074
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>>88582089
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>>88582108
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>>88582130
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>>88582152
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>>88581588
You sound like a retard who cant sympathize will a villain.
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>>88582184
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>>88580961
>Yeah, Bane seemed very reformed what with his illicit dealings with Strange for the posession of a human being

are you dumb? this was before psycho pirate made him better
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>>88582216
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>>88581526
>>88581546
>Ive never met an addict the post

No shit the drug is crutch and a weakness that is why its an addiction. That was fucking years ago in universe. My god people like you are fucking idiots. Just cause one writer had him say something years ago, which by the way falls in line with an addicts narrative, doesnt mean Bane is so strong he can kick the addiction forever.
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>>88581983
Was it ever collected anywhere?
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>>88574802
Ok this is good.
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>>88582280
That post was in direct response to some anon saying that King was doing something that no one had ever done before, which it explicitly disproved. Don't change the argument he was making so you can strawman it.
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>>88582280
Venom isn't an addicted-for-the-rest-of-your-life drug, if it was, then Batman, Riddler, and everyone else who has taken it would be struggling.
It's a struggle to get over the withdrawal, but after that, you're clear.
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>>88582278
>Keeps seeing Ned Flanders as Dr. Flanders
Now keep thinking he needs more 'Hi-diddly-ho' and 'dang-diddly' in his dialogue
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>>88581986
yeah

even more if he tried just one time when he was a kid right??
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>>88582319
I made that post. I never said anywhere that a writer hadn't done it before. You were arguing its out of character for him to relapse because he kicked it in a story that happened years ago in universe. I was telling you thats fucking retarded. No thing any one writer has a character do is definitive. You must have only been reading comics for a couple of years to not understand that.

>>88582334
Drugs dont work like that. It comes down to the individual being able to kick it.

Some people can kick heroin others can't. The drug doesn't dictate that.
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>>88582278


>>88582337
I'm pretty sure that is the idea. I'm actually surprised that he's being written as a competent Psychiatrist though, during Knightfall he seemed as sham
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>breaking Bane's back and leaving him there
>making fun of him before leaving
>the guy that tries to rehabilitate people breaking someone's life while making fun of him
>people will defend this Batman
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>>88582380
>Some people can kick heroin others can't. The drug doesn't dictate that.

Good to know we're in agreement that Bane could totally kick off the Venom on his own then

>>88582384
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>>88582380
Some drugs are physically addicting, and it was directly stated that Venom was one of these.
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>>88582407
For awhile sure but if a writer wants to make him relapse or try to use other methods that is still in character. You are not MUHing like a fucking idiot. It shows how casual you are if you still maintain that mindset.
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>>88582380
>You were arguing its out of character for him to relapse because he kicked it in a story that happened years ago in universe
I'm a completely different anon. I just saw you moving the goalposts when you were proven wrong. It's not a milestone for a character if it already happened in a previous issue.
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>>88582407

>>88582421
>For awhile sure but if a writer wants to make him relapse or try to use other methods that is still in character.

that would need for Bane to actually be in character in the first place. And as you can see, that is not the case here.
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>>88582433
The other dudes point was hes kicked the venom before and shouldnt relapse and hasnt since he kicked it. My point was if that is the stance we are taking having him relapse again would be a milestone for the character then. Learn to read.
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>>88582401
Bane fucking deserves it because he rules by bullying.
Bane also did this to Batman first.
Christopher Nolan sucked ass, stop gtting triggered just because your fanboyism.
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>>88582467
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>>88582188

There's a difference between sympathizing with a villain and damning a hero for taking a cure for an innocent young girl the only way he could. Bane needed Pirate to kick an addiction, Gotham Girl needs him to repair her psyche that he himself fractured, something only he can do.

>>88582229

Bane was still complicit in holding a man captive to be his personal crutch. He never entertained the idea of handing him over to Batman. Nothing he did really signalled any kind of virtue or remorse whatsoever. Nothing to make the reader question the repercussions of Batman's actions. Except him regretting the fact that he couldn't hurt Batman more seriously before he tossed him in a cell to die.
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>>88574845
By the nature of comics, the audience knows the Status Quo will always be gone back to.

But couldn't King at least have pretented he would make a dent in it? What made Grayson fun was the fact it was something totally new for both the character and the DCU. By using D-List characters in Omega Men the stakes were higher as they didnt have recognition protecting them. Vision was all about trying to create a new status quo in the Vision Family only for it to fall apart.

Here Bane is on Venom again, Catwoman's a Hero and nobody died. Individually these are not necessarily negative, but together they add to the fact it feels like this arc had no weight. King should be able to do far better.
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>>88582556
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>>88582598
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>>88582615
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>>88582334
>if it was, then Batman, Riddler, and everyone else who has taken it would be struggling.

They didn't use it regularly for extensive period of time like Bane.
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>>88582672
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>>88582803
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>>88582830
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>>88582785
Batman did use it more than once and had to detox in the bat cave for a month.
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>>88582853
Much better than running around naked and bald
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>>88582615
>Putting a guy in his home environment
Why Arkham is so shit?
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>>88582897
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>>88580688
>those he loves
Freak off, he just met her.

It's literally make no sense why's going this far for her.
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>>88582948
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>>88582924
They're a regular shitty mental asylum having to deal with multiple supervillians.

The building is built and the staff trained for regular crazy, not Superpowered crazy.
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>>88582979
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>>88583026
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>>88583047
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>>88583069
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>>88583017
But they know some basic shit about their inmates. Locking Bane in iso is like giving Calendar Man calendars.
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>>88583106
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>>88582896
it still doesn't compare since Bane first lived through being experimented with Venom and then kept using it regularly. You could even argue his body has a completely different type of reaction to Venom than occasional users like Batman due to his constant, long term exposure.
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>>88583135
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>>88583166

>>88583152
Are you seriously arguing for realism on a comic where people use fucking bubblegum to avoid being incinerated?
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>>88583201
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>>88583222
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>>88583238
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>>88583265
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>>88583291
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>>88583336
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>>88582955
Did King explain why Batman is doing all of this for her?
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>>88583358
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>>88583375
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>>88583370
>Why is the superhero going to absurd lengths to help someone
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>>88583401
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>>88583370
Because she is the new super awesome OC but since it's not a Snyder character it's fine for Batman to reveal his secret identity to her almost instantly and go around ruining lives to save her

Be damned if it gets people killed as long as she is saved!
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>>88578125
Almost as much as Original Sin
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>>88583423

Pages 48 and 49 were posted here

>>88581526
>>88581546
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>>88583480
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>>88583509
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>>88583540
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>>88582583
>King should be able to do far better.
This is the part where people usually say "that's just what King WANTS you to think!", right?
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>>88583567
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>>88583590
And that is it. Much better than anything King could ever aspire to do with Bane
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>>88574802
Incredible One Page!!!!
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Just read the issue myself and I agree. It was cringeworthy, especially the way she starts meowing like an actual cat and makes cat related puns. Brrr. I admittedly haven't been keeping up too well, but can anyone explain why in the world is Batman in bed with a possible mass murderer?. He is willing to give her a pass just because they used to date?. Dammit King. Now I hate Catwoman even more

I really hope I see Bane taking revenge by breaking her back, the next time they meet
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>>88583679
Batman's in denial because he believes suicidal people can't kill.
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>>88583679
that's why Bat/Cat is shit
even worse than Talia
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>>88582955

He's in love with her, dumbass.
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>>88583632
I did like this one more
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>>88582583
there's ambiguity in catwoman's part (she killed or not those 237 terrorists? we dont know yet)

there is weight because bane was in his place, doing "nothing" wrong, trying to now live without pain (venom and his traumatic experiences) but batman broke in and took that from him

its action and consequence, characters doing things and wanting things that speaks about themselfs
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>>88579638
>>88579679
>>88579737
>>88580688

Batman left Bane there because he wants Bane to come to Gotham so he can be Batman's "monster".
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>>88583857
>atman left Bane there because he wants Bane to come to Gotham so he can be Batman's "monster".
Emo Batman.
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>>88574672
Sale's most in-depth work this run. I almost thought he wasn't doing them anymore when I walked into my lcs today. Actually had to look for his signature.
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>>88580203
>if you are a Trump supporter then you must be a /pol/ack
Fuck off. Do you see any shitposting about nazis and cucking ? No
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>>88583450
Yeah its not like Batman got her only living relative killed or anything
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>>88584681
>Yeah its not like Batman got her only living relative killed or anything
she killed him .
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>>88584734
Because Batman continued to let them operate for once instead of shutting them down. Do you even Bruce Wayne?

He's going to pin that death on himself.
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>>88584681
What the fuck? No he didn't
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>>88574713
Sweet Fisherman's Suplex, Bane.
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>>88573790
What a shitty fucking arc this has been. King confirmed for overrated HACK!
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This was one of the best arcs to come out of Rebirth. Plays like a film. Haunting, strange Bane. The obsession/compulsion that heroes and villains have to suicide by "cop." Really good.
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>>88584800
I think Snyder just fucked up Bruce for casuals for years to come. What used to be known facts about Bruce's personality, new readers have no idea about them.
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>>88587172
>I think Snyder just fucked up Bruce for casuals for years to come

Yep
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>>88587225
Snyder's Batman was just so angry and autistic whereas Bruce prior to that was more guilt ridden and compassionate.
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>>88574115
desu I'm glad Trump won. My facebook feed was absurd. The last time I partook in such an excessive quantity of schadenfreude was on /a/ when they were dumping screencaps of Narusaku shipping forums when Narutard ended.
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This storyline did not make much sense.
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>>88587576
>Batman lets them operate in his city and her brother gets killed over it
>Batman feels guilty and feels the needs to save her
>Breaks Bane in the process
>Next arc is the consequences

What doesnt make sense?

God damn you autist get so triggered if any new OC is introduced.
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>>88577374

I'm enjoying his run but I think it's way to decompressed. Like, I Am Suicide could have been done in two issues and I Am Gotham could have been done in three issues.

I don't know if that's King or editorial trying to milk stories, but it's still a bit frustrating.
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>>88581908

>good Bane story

That isn't Batman Europa.
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>>88574750
I like this so much more than Kryptonite gum, it's just so campy, I fuming love this shit.
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>>88587759
How about Batman being suicidal? Or the Suicide Squad doing jack fucking shit?
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>>88587172
If you don't see King's run as a direct continuation of Snyder's then you are the casual.
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>>88587225
>>88587415
Yeah, Batman hating the Joker is so out of character!
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>>88590653
>>>88587172
>If you don't see King's run as a direct continuation of Snyder's then you are the casual.
I treat Snyder like I treat Slot and Bendis: like they do not exist.
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>>88574657
>>88574657
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>>88574819

I am really pleasantly surprised with how much I ended up liking Punch and Jewelee. They're cute, and I like how they're basically criminal yuppies.
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>>88573936
>Hypercrisis
Forever Crisis.
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>>88573994
When and how did Selina find time to kill all of those people?
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>400 posts

wew lad
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>>88574382
Does anyone care about Punch and Jewlee, aka discount Joker and Harley Quinn?
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>>88575305
>King passing up the chance to show the fight of the century and instead has Alfred just let The Wall have free reign of the Batcave
What the goddamn hell, man!?
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>>88592163
I do now, they were used to good effect. That kinda seems to be the joke, bootleg J+H which is ripe for comedy and story telling.
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>>88592163
The entire squad was pointless and only felt it was there to have some kind of "epic" reference.
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>>88592418
JLvSS says she broke in with the regular Suicide Squad's assistance.
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>>88592579
>"epic"

huh?
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>>88592604
>implying Alfred couldn't buttle the shit out of the Suicide Squad while also cleaning the Batcave and showing Deadshot how to use a gun the right way

>>88592579
Punch and Jewlee were there because, well, the reasons were clearly stated in the first issue of the arc.

Ventriloquist was there because he was immune to Psycho-Pirate's powers.

Catwoman was there to trick Bane into a false sense of security and bring Psycho-Pirate out of hiding.

Bronze Tiger was there, I assume, as a back up in case Batman wasn't able to fend off Bane's men by himself and/or to keep the others safe.

This isn't really that hard to figure out.
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>>88592688
literally any other character could have covered the same roles
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Follow link for a constructive review of issue 13.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7HLa2CCAlo)
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>>88592711
So who would you choose to replace each one then?
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>>88573862

bump
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>>88592711
What does that even mean, 'any other character?'
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>>88574695
Dr. Strange...

Never noticed that before.
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>>88592741
>>88592753
it means that outside of ventriloquist the other characters are there for no real reason except the superficial one that was given to make the story coherent

any other character could have been the one that escaped from Santa Prisca other than Punch for example
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>>88592799
Writer's Choice isn't allowed? Is that it?
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>>88576195
You should put spaces between your sentences.
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>>88574462

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=desL5RaBt8E
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>>88574709

>Really? lmfao.

When Trump was elected, I was doing story time in /trash/ on a sug thread.

Inhumanity is childish.
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>>88574819

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4nhI2BmrfY
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>>88574836

Best post of this thread.
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>>88573790
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>>88574115
that's gay, ever notice how anyone who is centered around art staunchy hates Trump?
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>>88574688
>>88574695
Please tell me this was forced in just so they could advertise JL vs SS?
This is pisses me off so much, I mean why the fuck would Amanda Waller know where the batcave is? This practically meant she knows Batman's identity as well, or has this been mentioned in previous comics that I'm not aware of?
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>>88594597
Everyone knows Batman's identity
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>>88594597
Everyone in Gotham knows who Batman really is. The whole time they were just playing along. Are you this dense?

(Oh shit, it's Mr. Wayne dressing up again costume, better call him Batman so he doesn't feel awkward after going through all that trouble to save us!)
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>>88594597
>he never read Ostrander's Suicide Squad
Waller has known who the 'rich boy' running around as Batman for a very long time anon.
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>>88592799

Catwoman and Broze Tiger are there because he can trust them and they can help in case something goes wrong. Punch and Jewlee are a package deal.
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>>88573911
>"Ketchup" - Mayo
Eisner award winning Tom King strikes again!
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>>88587225
>Yep
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>>88579638
are you fucking retarded?

read this page
>>88574012
and this page
>>88574040
and this page
>>88574081
and this page
>>88574122

how the fuck do you not know what their goal is
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>>88591734
That's a great way to describe them.
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>>88587759
For me what doesn't make sense is the way the plot was resolved means that the same methods could have been used at practically any time. So the whole thing was an obvious, illogical conceit for the reader, or some ripe indulgence from spoilt richboy Wayne (which is fitting enough, sure).

This isn't true of Omega Men, Sheriff or Vision so I do think this is a worse and more inconsistently plotted story. I was expecting so much more of this arc - please note despite your OC comment it is this arc I'm talking about.
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