Inhumans vs X-Men

>"name one cooler X-Men than uhhhh Moon Girl"
>instantly says Cyclops
Good answer to a fucking retarded question.

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>>88544716
>That face when the Inhuman fag brings up how cool Moongirl is.

That quick "no" was funny too.

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>>88544659
>the comments are just "fuck off Marvel nobody likes the Inhumans, I hope they all die"

>>88544815
good
for once, the casual audience doesn't seem to eat up marvel's bullshit

>remember that time Marvel said mutants weren't humans in order to avoid a lawsuit

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>getting worked by Marvel
>Giving Marvel videos views
Do you think more people are going to spread this video over an X-victory or further "proof" that Marvel hates the X-men?

>>88544761
Our /co/ hero

>>88544984
Wasn't that over toy issues?

>>88544659
Inhumans were a mistake

The OP is the kind of moron who believes his own shitposts.
There's two sides to this conflict and as fan-favorite (Wolverine himself) Logan explained in issue #1 : The Inhumans are forcing all mutants off of the planet under penalty of death because they've decided that they can't do without a cloud that their own lives are not dependent upon in any way.

That is an amazingly one-sided ethical debate that Marvel just asked the audience to consider. That wasn't by accident.

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>>88547313

>>88544761
She's not even the best part of her own book. In fact, she's probably the worst part of her book. I read it for Devil Dinosaur, the Killer-Folk and Kid Kree.

>>88546507
Tax and licensing rights differ when characters are of people as opposed to animals.
Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd have different legal intellectual rights protections because of this.
Mutants are canon not human, that's always been the story.
And if they are classified as animal characters Marvel can make more money.
Why not sue over it?

>>88547313
Especially considering we already know that this ends with the X-men winning, and the Royals getting kicked off the planet. Blackagar loses his bar and goes to cosmic prison while Medusa gets exiled from New Attilan.

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>>88544659
>The inhumans are fighting to protect everything about their identity, they're culture

>>88547461
No, it's going to end with all the mutants being turned into Inhumans. Cap this post, I can promise you this is what's going to happen.

>>88544659
>The Inhumans are fighting to preserve everything about their identity, their culture.

And the X-men aren't?

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>>88547494
>Cap this post

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>>88544659

Moon girl? Really? That's who you go with?

Not the silent king who's very whisper can shatter mountains? You go with the discount version of a side kick that no one cared about beyond their connection to a dinosaur.

>>88544659
>I just don't like the X-Men, whatever it is I'm against the X-Men.

A Marvel employee everybody.

>>88547561
>Vacated his throne to his queen without resistance and opened a bar while she is collecting sperm from Human Torch.

>>88547561

Why would anyone use Black Bolt as an example of a cool Inhuman right now? Inhumans are at the height of their exposure right now, and he is being written by Soule as a jobbing pushover and a cuck who loses his wife to Johnny fucking Storm. That's when he's not basically a background character or a "problem" that needs to be taken care of quickly for plot's sake.

>>88547494
Your anonymous word means nothing.
If you had "namefagged" then there would at least be someone who is shamed and can never post under their name again...
As is, you're wagering nothing on your wrongness.

>>88547801

Why would you use moon girl?

Look describe what both characters are to a non comics reader.

>BB: King of a group of aliens who can shatter mountains with his voice
>MG: A super smart little girl who is...oh you stopped listening


It doesn't even have to be BB. He was just the first one I thought of.

>>88547801
There's only one cool Inhuman in existence.
And she's marvelous.
The rest can go suck Terrigenesis up their butts.

>>88547885
are kamalafags really this delusional

>>88547830
The ressurexion relaunch has the freaking Blackbolt symbol in it's title. And yet, there are no Inhuman books announced for it. The ressurexion relaunch is being advertised as an Inhuman and X-Men event. And yet, there are no Inhuman books announced for it. There are totally going down this route.

>>88547873

Because she's a PoC and the smartest character in the Marvel Universe. People who watch these kinds of videos care about that. Black Bolt was an ideologue of the patriarchy and thus has been dismantled over the past few years.

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>>88547885
>Kamalafags
>thinking their preachy cunt is good

>>88547933
>no Inhuman books announced
Three were announced anon

>>88547931
This is truthy.

>>88547933
Jeeeezuuuusss... I suppose you read into that how there's no longer going to be any (X) Men anymore because you didn't happen see any symbols that would indicate that plot twist?

>>88547982
You don't have to like Kamala to admit that she's BY FAR the closest thing Marvel has to a "cool Inhuman"

>>88548074
Medusa is Namor with boobs and long red hair.

>>88548074
BB, Karnak, Reader, Lockjaw, Crystal, and Kaboom are better than her.

>>88548087
>>88548149
The level of Inhumanity shown on this thread is disturbing.

(the dog? the dog ranks higher than Ms.Marvel Jr.?)

>>88548247
yes

Lockjaw is also cuter

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>>88548247

The dog and all those other characters have years of experiences and stories with the Fantastic Four.

What's Kamala have "HUR DUR IM A FAN GIRL, HERE'S A REFENCE TO FANFICTION WE'S SO SELF AWARE"

>>88548443
Isn't Lockjaw an Inhuman that was once human-shaped but the Terrigen Mists turned him into that?

>>88548543

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmaybe

>>88544761
i pity that guy he works for a company that hates and is trying to destroy what he loves

>>88548543
>>88548607
So it's okay for Dazzler to have once put the moves on him?

>>88548607
>>88548543
No. Go to bed, Byrne.

>>88547982
>thinking their preachy cunt is good
She is only preachy in champions, but eveyone sucks in champions.

>>88547933
>there are no Inhuman books announced for it
There are 3 inhuman books announced for it. Royals, Black Bolt, and Secret Warriors.

>>88547982
>preachy cunt
CHAMPIONS DOESN'T COUNT

>>88548543
It's... pretty ambiguous. That was the original explanation but then that explanation was later retconned as the inhumans just fucking with Ben Grimm.

But then they never gave a proper explanation for what he is (an "inhuman dog" doesn't actually mean anything since there's never been shown to be a species of dogs that can go through terrigenesis; where are Lockjaw's parents or siblings?), and they've proceeded to make Inhumans that are fucked up WAY worse than getting turned into a dog (like getting turned into a giant door or a living engine that's in constant excruciating pain if he's not hooked up to a vehicle) so it's not like an inhuman getting turned into a dog is some horrible fate when compared to some of the other inhumans' transformations.

>>88549044
There are non-human mutants like that cat who could turn into a human or the bees that make up Swarm's body.

>>88547426
You actually mentioning those is giving me more interest in the book than anything Marvel has done with her.

>>88548087
Don't you DARE insult Namor like that ever again or I will drop a message in a bottle and the full fury of Atlantis will be unleashed upon you.

>>88549164
Atlantis is fuckin dead kiddo

>>88549194
Not as dead as you're gonna be.

>>88549072
>There are non-human mutants like that cat who could turn into a human or the bees that make up Swarm's body.
Right, but Swarm's not an x-gene mutant (technically just mutant bees) and unless there is also a cat that can turn into a human that was a human that could turn into a cat.

Fucking Inhumans are technically mutants too.

>>88549164
>full fury of Atlantis
That's not much fury.

>>88544716
>>88544761
Is he our guy?

>>88549098
It's fun. Very obviously aimed at a young demographic though.

>>88549164
Triton please contain your lust for Namor

>>88549072
But with those mutants it's their natural state, they may not like the ramifications of a culturally improper appearance or may not love the aesthetics of being a giant blue monkey-man or blob of goo, but it's their natural state, they have the instincts and understanding of their mutant nature, even if that nature wasn't obvious before the mutant power manifestation of puberty.
Being artificially turned into a giant dog after being born human must be like being an amputee, as much as you can rationalize that your body isn't what it was and now is what it is, the instinct that you should be something else that is now lost forever would be maddening.
Why subject yourself to something so unnatural?

>>88544659
I just want Marvel todiemarvel to die already, I'll dance on the tomb of that fucking cancerous mess of hacks.

Hopefully their character would go to people that aren't waste of flesh

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>>88549482
Please...
Who possibly could?
He is Prince Namor.
Namor does not judge the passions of those who lust for Prince Namor.
Just ask Susan Storm.

>>88547494
Yeah this fucking theory is as stupid as that New 52 Superman is Superboy Prime theory it's just not happening.

>>88549374
Dunno son, wouldn't say based purely on this information (I don't know who it actually is)

But hell it's a start

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>>88544815
>>88544871
The Inhumans have become Roman Reigns.

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>>88548087
When has Medusa ever done anything as cool as invade the Surface World? She's in charge, but she's weak as hell.

>>88547885
>There's only one cool Inhuman in existence.

Crystal needs to grow her hair back first.

>>88547561
This is what I have never got about IvX conflict apart from well, everything.

Why can't we have a rivalry, a proper one, between Scott and Blackagar? I mean, the two of them have very similar backstories, pasts and dare, I say it, personality and problems. The difference is the degree.

My headcanon would be that Scott in Karnak's vision would be a paradox of sorts. Someone who should fall apart at any second, but through sheer will, doesn't, contrasting Black Bolt's flawlessness.

Their clash would be far more interesting than what we currently have with Medusa and Storm, where Storm just takes Medusa's abuse.

It would be a clash between two individuals who can't and won't lose control of a situation. Blackagar would likely see it as his right to live on Earth, as he helped to stop Thanos from destroying it, nearly risking his people as a result. Meanwhile, Scott would likely try to find a way for them to coexist, but he would not be subservient to Blackagar unlike some race traitors.

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>>88551937
What kind of crazy pills are you taking?

This isn't a clash of personalities, it's not a bar-fight. It's WAR.
And golly, Scott might have even tried seduction, get a little gay romp going, but we should know that if he ever did anything as distasteful as subservience, it was merely a feint to set 'Bolt up for betrayal...
Because that's the Rightclops way.

But seriously, this is pragmatism. Survival.
It doesn't even count as politics, Beast's hoping for a magic science remedy while Storm hid mutant refugees from being indiscriminately killed was a holding action. And that buy for time was politics.
Now there's no more time. It's war or death, there's no other choices.

>>88544659
I didn't read Inhumans vs X-Men. Can someone sum it up for me? Was Cyclops right again?

>>88552079
Cyclops was one hundred percent in the right. Probably the rightest he's ever been

>>88552100
Only Emma's overwhelming love has allowed her to even comprehend Scott's level of Rightness.
Even The Stepford Cuckoos stood back in awe when they saw that recognition of Rightness in Emma's eyes.

>>88552100
That's a lot of right.
Care to give me a summary?

>>88552136
It's only just started, but

Cyclops was actually dead, and Emma was just pretending he was alive by projecting him into everyone's minds.

The thing that was so awful that everyone hates Cyclops and have referred to him as Hitler was... having one of the Terrigen Clouds destroyed by Alchemist. That is it. He killed a cloud

Jump forward ~8 months

Beasts calculations have finally finalized that the Terrigen cloud will disperse through the atmosphere and basically end mutant life soon. He says they should leave Earth

Emma has been preparing and gotten a lot of support. Not all the mutants agree with her, but after a vote they do follow her. The mutants lead the attack

Oh and Jean Grey violates someones mind

>>88552029
Yes, I am aware that it's a war, however, what I am pointing out is that the clash between the two leaders which inevitably occur, currently, it has almost no real weight to it.

The problem that I have is that Storm took all the abuse that Medusa throws at her. It's not just pragmatism even behind closed doors she defends the Inhumans saying that they have done nothing wrong. It is a total imbalance of power.

Meanwhile, a conflict between Scott and Blackagar would have more emotional weight to it, as you would feel that these are actually equals. Leaders who have done what they needed to do to ensure that their race survives. Meanwhile the Storm and Medusa conflict just feels like a battle between someone who has basically acted like a complete dick for no real reason and someone who has just taken abuse and blamed others for it.

That's actually the biggest problem with the conflict actually. The reason that Bolt dropped the bomb is to ensure what he perceived to be a vital aspect in his people's survival existed, post-Infinity. Yet, we don't see the desperate battle of survival. Instead, they have already got everything they wanted with Medusa abusing her power immediately. If we saw that struggle we might be more understanding and emotionally invested in the Inhuman's story and why they don't want the cloud to vanish. Instead, all of us just hate the Inhumans and want them to go.

>>88552079
Of course.

>>88544659
>The inhumans has a giant teleporting dog
I admit, it's hard to counter that.

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>>88544659

>>88552209
But N1 has not been for filled yet

And what dumb hypocritical thing did Beast do now?

>>88552219
Jean Grey used her powers to trap Karnak, pretending she was just there to talk.
Beast wanted the X-Men to leave the planet, instead of any other solution he could have suggested, despite being a genius and in good relationships with the Inhumans

>>88552195
Bestiality enthusiast, pls go.

>>88552300
>Jean Grey used her powers to trap Karnak, pretending she was just there to talk.
Yes I know but that's peering into someones mind. She was just mind trapping him
>Beast wanted the X-Men to leave the planet
A perfectly valid strategy

>>88552312
It's a perfect valid strategy as a last resource. Beast threw the towel before the end of the match.

God, why did they do to Beast? I even like the O5 Beast more nowadays.

>>88552188
"Leaders"???

No.No.No. Scott Summers hasn't been the leader of the X-Men in a long time.
Schism was important because of that.
Scott wasn't Leading half the mutants after that.
Then the whole AvX and Phoenix Five thing happened and support kept waning away until it was just Scott and Emma in the end.
Then came ... the unfortunate event.

Scott wasn't the leader of his people anymore, make no mistake about that.
When he met 'Bolt (who had made his own mistakes) Scott was at a lowpoint. Everything that could be taken from him had been taken from him.
There definitely wasn't any meeting of great man equals on the field of combat.

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>>88552364
It's awesome how Marvel has BabyBeast learn just enough from the fuck-ups of the furry Beast to hate himself and have some of the humility that furry Beast lacks, but still be making the same kinds of mistakes for the same kinds of reasons.

>>88551937
>Blackagar would likely see it as his right to live on Earth, as he helped to stop Thanos from destroying it, nearly risking his people as a result.
None of this would have happened if Blackbolt hadn't blown up Atilan and the terrigen crystals for reasons that have never been adequately explained. IIRC, he would have stood a better chance defeating Thanos if he hadn't done that, too.

>>88552312
Running away isn't a valid strategy, running away is what you do when your valid strategy fails.

>>88552476
A wise man once said
>We aren't retreating, we are advancing in the other direction.

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>>88552163
Beast changing his mind and going full race-traitor, and Storm zapping his ass were the best parts of #1.

Hank's arguments against war were mostly of cowardice, that the X-men shouldn't fight since they couldn't win. He's a useless piece of shit except for the warning, which I have no idea how he expected the X-men to respond to.

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>>88551937
>Blackagar would likely see it as his right to live on Earth, as he helped to stop Thanos from destroying it
"Hey Kreefags, we helped you out, now get the fuck out of our new planet. You too, Shi'ar. Pick up your stuff and move."

>>88552437

Cyclops and Black Bolt never actually met. In fact, despite the fact that this event was mainly precipitated by the actions of these two characters, neither have honestly done shit. It's basically been the Medusa and Emma show the entire time, much to my chagrin.

>>88552484
Most of the fails of his life were because of fear.
He was afraid some evil men would get their hands on his mutant gene serum, so he drank it - hello blue hairballs.
He was afraid to be persecuted as a mutant, so he abandons the X-Men for the Avengers.
He's afraid (this one's obscure) he won't be able to cure the Legacy Virus so he allows Mr.Sinister to take a mutant that will help Sinister's research.
He's afraid of the moral lines Rightclops was crossing, so he quits the X-Men.
He's afraid he's about to die without fixing Scott Summer's so he time-travel kidnaps the O5 X-Men to do it for him.
He's afraid the X-Men are going to put him on trial in a way that's not just an intervention, and so he runs off to join the Inhumans.

Notice a pattern?

>>88552514
Emma always had her issues with redheads.

>>88552437
I know. I am just commenting that the entire conflict and the people driving it feel incredibly hollow, even though there are enough elements that it shouldn't be.

>>88552562
The "Scott gets atomized in the red rain" scene was meant to be more shocking.
If you didn't know it was coming it probably would have been.

>>88552584
>tfw too intelligent for comics
0 shocks.

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>>88552484
It's a little surprising that Hank's gone so traitor that he had to be physically attacked.
I know they would have been inviting trouble otherwise, but it's really messed up that they couldn't depend on him even to just bare minimum sit down and not screw them all over.

>>88552484
I thought it was Storm that was supposed to go full race traitor, so that came as a shock to me. It was great.

>>88552624
She still didn't send cloud to Sun.

>>88552624
"a shock to you"...

Bu-DUM-tssh!

>>88552630
Could she?
It's the ability to manipulate weather, not to make gases dematerialize.
She probably couldn't do anything more than redirect it.

>>88552079
>Was Cyclops right again?
he's been dead for months and months. Emma was right.

>>88552652
Of course she can do that.

>>88552660

She was right in Scott's honor.

>>88552671
Even if she could do that, you'll need to neutralize the inhumans first, so they couldn't answer before it's too late.

Hell, we don't even know how they plan to destroy the cloud. My best bet it's Forge building some machine.

>>88552660
You're forgetting that Emma's bat-shit crazy, she's turned her darling Scott into an idea and he's inside her head now, don't you know?
He's alive and whispering his brilliant strategies to her all the while! How wonderful!
Why, it's he who has come up with the plan...

I bet you a fiddle of gold she's revealed as crazy by the Cuckoos who already think she's trying to kill herself.

>>88552514
What is the Apocalypse: Endgame arc of the original X-Factor?

Y'know, when they went to the Moon to rescue baby Nathan, and Scott and Bolt were on panel together fighting Apocalypse and the Dark Riders (who were originally Inhuman royals, to boot) multiple times?

Fuck you mean, "never actually met"?

>>88552713
>My best bet it's Forge building some machine.
Nothing will go wrong.

>>88552713
Plan # 16: Forge builds an air filtration system and terrigen gas containment unit, and Storm directs it into the machine's intake.
Problem solved.
Simple enough, and those filthy Inhumans get to keep their murder mutagen.

>>88552716
>think she's trying to kill herself.
In how many books will she appear when Resurrexion start?
Exactly.
Same with Magik.

>>88552746
>Same with Magik.
They better fucking not

>>88552079
Cyclops and Emma get called right for preemptively attacking the inhumans for having a death cloud.
Alchemy gets sacrificed to destroy one of the clouds.
All of this could have been avoided via having Alchemy make the Inhumans some terrigen with his powers since most inhuman would gladly take the pure stuff and destroy the fuck out of that cloud instead.

>>88552743
Plan # 27 : Magik teleports the whole cloud as the team psychics offer support and the healers stand by.

>>88552079
it's one big antivaxxer analogy and Scott is Jim Carrey

>>88552783
You what

>>88552364
>>88552476
It's the option they should have taken long ago.
Fighting the inhumans generally means nothing because there's still a cloud that they (at this point in time which is obviously going to chance) cannot actually get rid of which will make Earth uninhabitable to mutants anyway.
Evacuating is the most logical option here since there might at least be people not exposed to the mists yet.

>>88552798
They're fighting the Inhumans so that they don't interfere with them getting rid of the cloud

>>88552724

How on Earth did you gloss over the fact that my post was in the context of the event?

>>88552798
Fuck off Hank. Shutting down the Inhumans before they have a chance to stop the mutants getting rid of the second cloud is the best option.

>>88552584
See, that the biggest problem with the whole IvX conflict, well three of them. What is going on, why the hell should I care and how much potential can you waste?

I mean Death of X was supposed to answer what Scott did right? That horrible act that sent mutant relationships back to the stone age. So, why the hell does it not do that? He literally gets rid of a cloud. Then after Death of X, despite shitting on him a few issues ago, everyone acts like Scott is a matyr and an old friend. The Inhumans are also quite... inconsistent about the cloud and the whole morality stuff.

So why, should I care about anyone in this event anymore? All I feel is bored and tired by it all being constantly let down and disgusted by the writers being shit.

>>88552836
If I remember my EXM #1 right, they mentioned that BECAUSE OF ACTIONS OF SCOTT SUMMERS mutants were sent to death camps and all that jazz.
My God, Lemire...

>>88552798
Don't misunderstand me, I'm actually fine if mutants left Earth. They are hated for no fucking reason (Sublime is shit) and even thought Cap (I know he's going full hydra now, but the point stands) admitted they never did the fullest to support mutantkind and promised the avengers support to fix that, it didn't do shit and now are back (again) on the brink of extinction.

So, yeah, totally fine with mutants leaving Earth; let the Inhumans and everyone get fucked by the Celestials.

And yet, despite of all of that shit, I just want them to keep on rising a fucking middle finger to the whole planet.

>>88552862
Does that mean that all X-baddies will get their own spaceships and follow them to space?

>>88552836
The horrible act was starting the war.
They've had a ceasefire agreement with the inhumans ever since, the Inhumans have advanced tech, worldwide government support, superpowered individuals that rival many Omega-level mutants, armies of loyal Inhumans devoted to following the Inhuman Monarch's commands.
This war is happening because ... Scott Summers started it in a fit of madness.

>>88552908
The war is happening because the Inhumans released a death cloud.

>>88552862
>>88552886
What about the Morlocks? And the civilian mutant population? The closet mutant who works as a dentist isn't likely to have his own spaceship.

What about the mutant children born next year?

>>88552908
Maddness?
No. Madness is having a giant cloud, lethal to both human, until Soule handwaved it and mutants alike roll over the Earth unchecked and not holding those who released it accountable, allowing them to abuse their power.

>>88552934
Morlocks will make their own ship, Warhammer 40k Ork-style.
Then Sinister will come by, massacre them and steal their ship.

>>88547954
But Doom still exists in the 616

>>88552923
That too.
But as Beast's (wrong) efforts proved, there was another potential option to explore before declaring war on a superior force with more allies, more resources, greater numbers, and less opportunistic enemies waiting in the wings.

Why, it's almost as if the tactically brilliant Scott Summers didn't plan this out at all...

>>88552969

Bendis immunity.

>>88552972
>there was another potential option to explore
Running away to space wasn't a fucking option. When someone comes along and attempts to make your home inhospitable, you don't just go "oh fucking well, guess I'll just leave"
You fight those fuckers with every last breath you have

>>88552969
Supposedly she is smarter than Doom, probably Richards as well.

It's just something played for controversy, try not to give it any attention

>>88552955
I'm sure that Maximus The Mad would agree.

>>88552815
>>88552829
They're gonna try but it's the size of fucking australia and the mutants they do have that can stop it apparently aren't around or already started dying. There were even arcs showing everyone in the MU trying to get rid of the cloud for several months when it first got released.
The other problem is that Hank is one of the main non-inhuman experts on terrigen thanks to being able to work directly with inhumans so if he doesn't think of a way to destroy it via technological means then there's little option of anyone else barring forge getting really lucky.
Going by the previews showing the Royal family being exiled the mists are gonna get removed by some bullshit nuhuman power or revolt upon learning it was let out on purpose as a guess.
The fact that wars are supposed to have casualties is also a legitimate excuse when the X-men have constantly been taking said casualties. Saying you want to go ahead and have some more for the sake of nothing is not really a great idea.
>>88552862
Celestials already did their final exam of Earth. Since Franklin exists the whole experiment is considered accomplished. Earth is safe from being destroyed via celestial if mutants are gone barring a random celestial tourist complaining about no mutants to look at.
Lila Cheny has a fucking dyson sphere she could have housed everyone in and the only time anyone remembered it in the last 20 years is a Carol Danvers comic.
>>88552861
I'm going to pretend that by Death camps they really mean Mutant hate groups started redirecting mutant occupied convoys/planes fleeing the cloud directly into the cloud instead.

>>88552934
>>88552886
You mean the people that get to join the X-men all the time?
The mutant children are prettymuch fucked since they're doomed while in the womb. They could make a case to certain couples that are going to have mutant children to come into space with em but that's a 50/50 chance of resulting em one of the spouses murdering the other.

>>88552969
Sadly. I wonder what Brian Michael Bendis has prepared for Doom in his rapebag.

>>88552886
>>88552934
Just send a global message about how Earth is no longer a planet fit for mutantkind and proceed to evacuate all the mutants. They have Cerebra, so it could help them locate all active mutants.

About the issue of newborns and people who refuse to leave Earth, well, just tell them to thank the Inhumans.

>>88552963
>yfw Sinister changes his obsession with mutnatkind with and obsession over inhumans.

>>88552972
Inhumans have stated that they don't really give a fuck about mutants. If Beast or any other scientist can't solve the problem, well too bad.
With that mindset, it's clear Inhumans didn't want war, but they have no remorse about bringing mutantkind to extinction.

>>88553010
>Lila Cheny
Girl with guitar, right? She was in X-Men Legacy. Just like Alchemy.
>>88553020
>>yfw Sinister changes his obsession with mutnatkind with and obsession over inhumans.
He already did. INHUMANS HAVE STRONGER GENES, MWAHAHAHA.

>>88552983
. . . was talking about Beast's trying to find a cure for the effects or other such means to prevent fatalities through science.
That actually was a preferable option to outright war.

>>88552815
>>88552829
They have Illyana the teleporter that's also a TIME TRAVELLER and Forge.
They can blow that cloud up at any time and by any time i mean past present or future. It's roughly the same reason they went after lockjaw.

>>88552743
Forge is working on some vague-ass project that he didn't feel important enough to bring up at the war council but it will probably end up solving the cloud.

>>88553028
Poor Mr. Sinister.
How is he going to dissect and experiment upon Inhumans from inside a SHIELD holding facility?

( ;__; )

>>88553062
>implying he won't be head of medical division
If fucking Exodus works for SHIELD as specialist, everyone can.

>>88553028
I was thinking more about the fact that she has an actual fully stocked and livable dyson sphere. It's an old complaint.
Instead of being on Utopia they could have had everyone live off planet where the only possible way to attack mutants would be via convincing Lila to take them while hoping she'd be willing to take them back to Earth afterwards.
She's sort of like how Rachel blows a hole in most of AvsX.
Mutants have a perfectly safe place to go but noone just asks Lila to let em crash there.

>>88553084
Writers have to remember she exists first, anon. And how will they tie X-Men for latest hot Marlel events?

>>88553010
Does that stand if Franklin is now out of the universe?
Actually, did the Celestials survive the universal reboot? I remember them vanishing because they were under attack from the Beyonders.

>>88553164
That would be why I used the random celestial tourist as an uh oh scenario.
The dreaming celestial isn't in San Franciso to keep em updated anymore which means that unless you grab their attention there should be none of them monitoring Earth.
No real idea on if Franklin remade them. I'm veering towards yes since Eternity and the other cosmic abstracts were remade and the memories of the 616 in general seem to have been rebooted to before it all went to shit.

>>88553200
Geez, where are the Apoc Twins when you really need them?

I'm sure Marvel would just pass the Inhumans as a different but still good result for the Celestials.

>>88553084
>>88553090
Chris Sims remembers Lila.

Do Magik's teleporting powers have enough range to reach that Dyson sphere?

>>88553274
Unknown, but given the vastness of space I feel like it's easy enough for her to miss by thousands of light years.

>>88553308
Or Magik would get there and the sun would be expanding to a red giant.

>>88553274
>shilling for Comics Alliance faggot
You're dead to me.

>>88553010
It's a fucking cloud. Between Storm, Iceman and Sunfire they could easily fucking destroy it.

>>88553358
They literally couldn't even hold the cloud back with all of them AND the inhumans working together in issue 0.

>>88553333
What? I'm just saying that Lila Chaney is in X-men '92.

>>88553375
That was just Storm and Crystal and that shitty nuhuman Iso.

Iceman can turn the entire planet into a frozen wasteland. I think freezing a cloud is within his abilities

>>88553432
He's too busy being gay now.

>>88553432
Freezing a giant cloud that will come crashing down on the earth like a meteor doesn't sound like a good idea.

>>88553705
Let Storm move it over Latveria, no one will miss it.

>>88553705

Freeze it, then send it to space. Boom, situation fixed.

>>88553717
Then instead on IvX they'll have XvDoom. Not sure if that's much better.

>>88547313
>That wasn't by accident.
i dont know anon... it's Marvel after all.

>>88552552
>He's afraid he's about to die without fixing Scott Summer's so he time-travel kidnaps the O5 X-Men to do it for him.
Wasn't this done with a machine that doesn't just create alternate timelines, but has an active certainty of fucking up the timeline he exists in? For which he was personally shat on by the Watcher?

On the other hand, we all know Xavier would have just wiped the minds of the O5 when they got back to their own time anyway. Which makes it even funnier.

>>88553770
Just throw Ben and Luke Cage at him.

>>88553705
Iceman can freeze it over water or the arctic

Or Sunfire, Magma, and Firestar can burn it out of the sky. They can burn as hot as the sun.

Storm and the half dozen mutant telekinetics can work together and throw the cloud out of the atmosphere. Between Rachel, Psylocke, Hellion, Nate Grey, Cable, Quentin Quire, Exodus, and Justice they should be able to lift an actual continent.

And then there's Rogue and Hope and Mimic who can copy powers and help support any of the above plans.

>>88553908

I thought Justice got murdered by an interdimensional vampire?

>>88553908
>Between Rachel, Psylocke, Hellion, Nate Grey, Cable, Quentin Quire, Exodus, and Justice they should be able to lift an actual continent.
Fuck I forgot teen Jean. And her new power to convert ambient psychic energy into telekinetic force. Just mind-link her to the all of the telepaths like Emma, the Cuckoos, Blindfold, and No-Girl, and she could probably do it herself

>>88547521
Of course not. X-Men are fighting to fucking survive.

>>88547561
Nigger thinks that nigger Mary Sue is cool. Gee, what a surprise.

>>88547873
Moon Girl. Smartest person in the world(how exactly did they find that out? And how is an 8-year-old smarter than Banner or Stark or Doom?) who spent most of her comic TRYING TO AVOID BECOMING INHUMAN.

>>88548149
You forgot Auran and Nux. They could've had a buddy cop comic.

>>88544716
It's more easy say the the x-men more lame than Moon Girl
>Maggot
>Stacy X
That is all, and no, I am not forgetting X-Treme.

>>88554548
Hey, Maggot is cool
He once drove juggernaut away... by being so lame Juggernaut could not bring himself to attack

X-Men guys

I like the X-Men because i actually read comics and read the x-men in the 90s

Inhuman guys

I like because thye totally cooler and stuff

>>88552484
It's not just cowardice. He KNEW inhumans were preparing for war. And he did NOTHING.

>>88554548
Maggot was cool

and how many prostitutes are heroes?

go fuck yourself, you cunt

>>88553808
>For which he was personally shat on by the Watcher
Kek that was great. Fuck Hank.
>>88552484
I'm actually wondering if this isn't just a move to switch Hank over to the Avengers again. Also imagine if Rightclops gets resurrected and joins the Avengers. I mean that one is pretty overdue. Then imagine if Hank and Scott ended up on the same Avengers squad after everything.

>>88554548
>there are a mix of cool and uncool mutants
Wow amazing what a revelation, dumbass

>>88554872
He is saying of all the wide array of mutants, only two are less cool than Moon Girl

>>88553020
>and proceed to evacuate all the mutants.
all humans are potential mutants

>>88547494
Ah yes, the I-Men

>>88554965
the thing is, they are cooler than Moon G

>>88555081
Well sure, but >>88554872 has nothing to do with that

>>88555098
As long as you agree with the FACT that Maggott and Stacy X are cooler than MG, I don't care about the rest

>>88555106
I don't even read Moon Girl, my daughter does though. I can't make the comparison.

>>88554965
>>88555098
Oh fuck I misread his post. My mistake

>>88555117
>I don't even read Moon Girl,
You don't have to. On one side, you have two over-the-top characters with personality that didn't happen to catch with the casuals.

On the other side, you have a mary sue minority

It's not even a contest

Fuck those filthy inhumans scum! Long live the X-Men
..Cyclops was right

>>88552484
Avoiding war because you know you will lose is the smartest thing he has done

>>88555209

That makes no sense when it took nearly zero effort for the mutants to take out Black Bolt, the strongest Inhuman.

>>88555178
Mutant rights is codeword for inhuman genocide
Gas the muties race war now!

>>88555248
Jobbing

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I don't read much Marvel, but is it true that Terrigen gas turn people into inhumans but kill XMen? So Cyclops just wanted to save his people by destroyed an inanimate cloud full of gas? And for some reason that makes him evil because he's destroying their culture or some shit?

Marvel writes some retarded shit

>>88555339
Mutant lives don't matter

>>88555349
so that's an actual plot line? jesus christ

>>88553808
That thing with the Watcher doesn't even make logical sense considering all the crap the X-men have personally done to timelines before including deleting themselves (Rachel and Bishop) or considering the mere existence of Kang or the fact that Phoenix powers itself via EATING timelines like that.
And even if it removed one timeline the nature of the multiverse means Hank replaced the timeline with other multiverses that the Watcher is supposed to be trying to be impartial about like New Mutants, Generation X, or the Nex X-men actually managing to BE the next generation of X-men.
It's just Bendis pandering to people to try and distract from how crappy his run is which worked.

I have however figured out one way in which it makes half a moment of sense for Hank to have caused actual trouble. Clearly the only reason this went wrong is not actually a result of the Doomlocks. It's a result of secret wars going on in the background and the Beyonders (and Doom) killing off all of those alternate universes.
Hank didn't fuck up because of the time travel. He fucked up because of the time travel when there was a massive multiversal event going on in the background.

>>88555248
Getting caught was part of his master plan

>>88555339
>>88555390
It's not CWII levels of retarded, but the Inhumans argument is pretty non-existent so far and the big "Cyclops is super-hitler" narrative that was being pushed prior to Death of X now makes the whole thing look like a joke.

>>88544659
Full transcript please?

>>88552163
>Oh and Jean Grey violates someones mind
Karnak

>>88555506
I know, I just didn't think that naming Karnak would have any purpose. I was poking fun at Jean for doing what she does best.

>>88555390
I'd say it's an editorial line. Of course it reflects on the plot heavily.

>>88555006
>all humans are potential mutants
Why does it matter? They live in the moment and ideally they just send those filthy muties away. Long live the inhumans.

Marvel citizens would jump with joy at the idea of getting rid of those abominations when they are toddlers.

>>88555537
today, you get rid of those "abominations"
tomorrow, you'll have to get rid of your kids, who turn out to be muties

>>88554848
>a move to switch Hank over to the Avengers again.
Why would they want a traitorous coward? Also, there would be no point without Simon around.

>>88554848
>hey, everyone, join the avengers
FUCK OFFFFFFFF

>>88552484

He's afraid of the Inhumans... despite standing up to Shield as part of the Illuminati, despite the X-men defeating the Avengers... what the hell?

>>88555565
What I meant to say it's that Marvel citizens are retarded.
People know they could have mutant descendants and they support Sentinel programs.

Plus, mutant mortality and the m-pox is a welll known issue of the cloud. You could expect someone to realize that future scenario, but it's better to kick each other over minority report shit instead of protecting the future as a whole.

>>88555694
apparently, in resurexion, there will be new angle, as the mutants will be hated no more

>>88553020
>implying that all of the stealth mutants are going to be okay with leaving everything they've known to go live on a spaceship with some famous celebrities.

>>88555718
Oh that sure is gonna last. They will eventuell fall back on old habits and spring out the Sentinels.

>>88555809
I think that marvel kind of wants to steal the fear and loathed, and give it to inhumemes

>>88551599
Which is all the more ironic because one, people liked Roman before his push, back when he was just the silent cannon of the Shield
two, they are booking everyone else to look like retards so Roman look better by comparison

>>88555822
Aren't they gonna leave the planet?

>>88555759
You are completely right, that's why Beast idea is retarded.

I posted that elaborating on Hank's idea and Marvel citizen's mistreatment of mutants, that's why I included the line about people that did not want to leave thanking the inhumans.

Leaving your home is tough. If mutants are capable of fighting against it, they should do it before they consider leaving Earth.

>>88552484
Even if they win they'd still die because of the cloud, no?

>>88553020
>inhumans have stated that they don't really give a fuck about mutants

I'm trying to figure out how that panel where that kid asked how the terrigen is their problem is supposed to make him like anything but an absolute piece of shit

>>88555993
As ornery people have said they want to subdue them so they can deal with the cloud without them interfering

>>88555958
royals, but the rest will stay on earth

>>88552209
Can cross the middle out

>>88544659
BTW do they address the fact that terrigen cloud is going to kill kids that don't even know they are mutants?

>>88556080
karnak is such a mary sue

>>88556157
The middle's a free space, you dummy

>>88556210
We already had a whole thread arguing about that. No need to bring it up again.

>>88556224
>We already had a whole thread arguing about that.
Really? I must have missed that

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>>88556210

Sure he is.

>>88556289
>a mary sue is beaten by another mary sue
color me bored

>>88556289
this was before the Inhuman push, well over 5 years ago

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it has been spoiled through solicitations that x-men win, but Emma may die, because she isnt in any of the new books after this, unless she is now in the new brotherhood of evil mutants or hellfire club.
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INHUMANS VS X-MEN #6

Charles Soule (W), Jeff Lemire (W), Leinil Francis Yu (A/C), Michael Cho (VC), Simone Bianchi (VC), Ardian Syaf (VC), Terry Dodson (VC).

· The war between the Inhumans and the X-Men takes a dark turn leaving Inhumans hopelessly outmatched.

· Emma Frost, the White Queen, faces off against Medusa, queen of the Inhumans, as both fight for the future of their people.

· It all ends here. The epic, oversized conclusion!

40 pages, $4.99.

>>88556393
they were solicitations for march already?

>>88555339
What happened is:
The X-men find out that terrigen kills mutants
The inhumans work together with Storm's X-men to evacuate the city of mutants while using their powers to keep the cloud away from the city.
"Cyclops" proceeds to do a worldwide telepathic broadcast calling it a poisonous death cloud which incites mass panic, rioting, and completely fucks up the evacution efforts.
Luckily there's a new inhuman that can stop all of this via putting everyone to sleep. The inhumans decide to do that and apologize after saving everyone.
Doesn't work out that way since "Cyclops" saw it and interpreted it as an attack.
Before the inhumans can apologize and explain properly Cyclops has gone into war mode.
The Inhumans are pissed off about their cloud being destroyed thanks to this and kill "Cyclops" when he attacks them yet again in a suicide via Black Bolt.
Then the big reveal is Cyclops died in the first pages and Emma has been tricking everyone into thinking he was alive because she's gone full Yandere.

So technically what "Cyclops" did was wrong but it doesn't matter since Marvel editorial has been calling him Hitler for so long that the default reaction to something so underwhelming is to tell inhumans to fuck off.

It's also interesting to note that if you go by the bullshit definition of Wanda going "no more mutants" as a mutant genocide then what "cyclops" just did is an inhuman genocide since he just went "no more inhumans" and was half as successful. I feel like that is probably the line of logic Marvel might have been taking but didn't anticipate that noone would be sympathetic to a totalitarian dictator queen spreading around a mutagenic death gas.

>>88544659
I haven't read the issue yet. Any chance Cyclops isn't dead?

You can lie to me it's cool.

>>88556393
Why is Scott on the cover or did the solicit go out before the twist?
>Black Bolt is kneeling in the Background like a bitch

>>88556468
Well, one Cyclops is alive.

>>88547426
She's cute.
Kid Kree and the Killer-Folk are GOAT, though. I kind of want to have Captain Kree show up as one of King Hulk's allies in an Ewing Avengers 20XX story.

>>88556454
Noice. But of course,you probably that you don't need a mist to be an inhuman? You either are, or you don't. Scarlet Witch however, completely removed the x-gene, with the few exceptions.

Now, the better question is: too many mutants was a problem, but too many inhumans isn't?

And another question, if someone told me 5 years ago, that we would all talk about shithumans, I would laugh and call you them crazy

>>88548543
Originally but it was retconned when they realized how creepy that was.

>>88556454
wanda's no more mutants didn't just prevent new mutants being made, it stripped man of them of their x-gene given powers
which killed a crap load of them because some of them relied on their powers to survive with their mutant bodies. aquatic mutants drowned. flying mutants fell from the sky. mutants who could only eat energy starved to death. giant mutants were crushed under their own weight. it was a massacre.

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>>88556289
It is bullshit that he can do that Shiki-thing without ever being exposed to Terrigen crystals.

>>88548543
That explains why he likes Crystal so much

>>88555759
I think that they'd prefer that to dying and being sterilized. And have you seen how goddamn slutty the X-men are? Who in their right mind would say no to an orgy with Illyana?

>>88556655
Bestiality is the best.
Slut.

>>88556660
I think they'd prefer someone arguing for their right to not have to become space gypsies

>>88556080
>asshole
That a shop?

>>88556713
Is it bestiality if he's actually human though?

>>88556479
thats teen cyclops.

>>88556015
Which kid? Which panel?

>>88556130
>royals flee and let their subjects be discriminated
Fuckers

>>88556736
Alas, it's retconned and LOCKJAW IS DUDE TURNED INTO DOG is just source of (You)s.

>>88556756
you could say the subjects are royally fucked

>>88556507
No thanks.

I've always assumed them bringing the original team to current year was because they wanted a teen mutant team but didn't want to make new mutants because of the whole movie situation.

>>88556840
It had more with Bendis being O5fag. Then X-fags kept buying it and voila, you can't move them.

>>88556538
Black bolt and karnak are extreme exceptions.

You aren't really considered inhuman until the fart cloud turns you into one. The gene might be still there for the inhumans but removing the clouds would effectively do the same thing for hundreds of years. Not managing to take em all out is really not a good defense for "genocide" as well.
>>88556612
I'm fairly certain that more inhumans have probably died from the cloud itself by this point.

>>88547521
Their identity and culture seemed to exist just fine for thousands of years without gassing the planet. Why don't they just put the mists back where they were?

>>88556717
They own more land in outer space than exists on the planet Earth. What gives you the impression that they'd be gypsies? Wanda and Pietro aren't mutants anymore so it's not like you'd get to breed with em.

>>88556946
...okay, please explain how they own land in outer space. I am legitimately curious.

>>88557004
I don't recall all of the land titles the X-men have but see >>88553084
If i had said they had more land than there is in the entire solar system I'd be under exaggerating to a level barely conceivable to the average human.
The X-men could probably even technically yoink the Shi'ar empire from Gladiator since the Summer's family was part of the royal family at one point.

>>88557064
>>88557004
I also forgot about Adam X the X-treme being the illegitimate heir to the empire ( and a secret Summers) so that's multiple avenues they could legally take control of the Shi'ar Empire via coup.

>>88555644
Yeah let's just have it be B list characters with no books of their own. Eat shit. Scott on the team after all the shit and scrutiny he's been through the past few years would at least make for interesting stories. Like a better version of what Waid is doing in Champions.

>>88557163
Fuck OFFF with your avengers shit!!!!
Don't you have your own characters?
If I want to read about X-Men, I want it to be in an x-book, not avengers crap!!!

>>88557145
He's Summers only in that Secret Wars: Age of Apocalypse, as far as I know.

>>88557236
Everyone is related to Cyclops

>>88557236
It's an old dropped plotline. Noone in 616 seems to have figured it out as far as I know. Hearing you say it was in Secret wars is literally the first time that plot has been picked up on in decades.

>>88557256
WE ARE LEGION
laughing-chaos-marine.jpeg

>>88557288
Yeah, I know. Same with Gambit being third brother.
Wonder why they wanted everyone to be related to him.

If Emma dies Ill jump off, I begun reading comics with Morrisons New X-Men, would make sense to stop if both Cyclops and Emma are dead.

>>88557197
Wow fagtron you sure have some hot opinions accentuated by using all those exclamation marks like a thirteen year old girl on facebook.
Also
>implying Avengers are only contained in Avengers books and never show up in other teams they're part of
So you're a casual and an X-Fag. Nice.

>>88557399
I will say it again, since you didn't get it the first, and the second time: FUCK OFF WITH YOUR AVENGERS SHIT! No one likes avengers, and no one cares about them!

It's better to be in limbo, than in an avenger team

>>88557351
It's probably just the result of Marvel repeatedly changing their minds. They seeded the idea of there being 3 long ago.
Then they presumably at some point backed off of revealing the 3rd brother multiple times.
Candidates that i know of were:
Adam X (who at least has actual issues used to set it up)
Apocalypse (You know what happens when Summers's start their time travel. They realized it was a dumb idea before it got anywhere)
Gambit (Actually a clone of Sinister or his child with some Summers mutant DNA stuck in)

>>88552195
The x-men still have Nightcrawler, right? He's kind of like Lockjaw.

>>88557436
>No one likes the Avengers
wew lad

>>88557436
>No one likes avengers, and no one cares about them

I love the X-Men but don't delude yourself familia

>>88558009
>>88558054
everytime there is an avengers thread, no one is posting, not even bumping them

>>88555155
She's not a Mary sue though.
By any definition. She fails constantly, no one likes her in the comic, and her ego is her biggest flaw.

>>88558066
I created A-thread to discuss characters and shit like we do with X-threads.
Nobody posted. "Popularity", yo.

>>88558222
I remember that. I've seen it. And I laughed, and moved onto other threads

>>88558259
Exactly. Even, I don't know, fucking Doom Patrol would get discussion.
Metal Men on the other hands ;-;

>>88558294
I love posting in Doom Patrol threads
Metal Men are sadly too obscure

>>88558326
Yeah, sadly. Don't get me wrong, I like Doom Patrol, too but as you say, they're less obscure than Metal Men.
I had warm feeling at heart when I saw Robotman represent Metal Men in their latest mini.

>>88558395
Doom Patrol has one advantage, and it's a huge advantage: Grant Morrison

>>88558419
Naturally.
But hey, Metal Men had one run that was, and I'm pretty sure I'm not making things up, advertised as "BASED ON IDEAS OF GRANT MORRISON!". Run had them fight evil corporation, Chemo, Evil Metal Men and whatnot. It was pretty Morrisonic.

>>88558455
Hmmm... I will probably check it out of curiosity

>>88558508
Vol. 3. It came out after 52. Hope you like it.

>>88558554
>Vol. 3. It came out after 52. Hope you like it.
already downloading it. one step ahead of you, one step ahead

>>88556538
>too many inhumans isn't?
That depends on how you feel about Celestials coming and blowing up your planet.

>>88556756
NuHumans barely count as inhumans. They're like .1% inhuman.

>>88558645
I think that the anon was thinking about Quesada and his policy

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>>88558606
My nigga.
>>88558645
Moon Girl can always whip some anti-Celestial gizmo out of pencils and bubblegum.
Remember Marvel Zombies and how zombie Reed fucked with those guards?

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>>88548087
>Medusa is Namor

Namor is one of the most enjoyable Marvel characters to exist.

Medusa hasn't been a consistent character in almost a decade.

Any Marvel employee that says X-Men is gonna disappear thanks to Ike's old Mossad connections.

>>88560195
Does Emma have a camel-toe?

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I don't follow Marvel too much but why is there such a hatred for mutants now?

Is Marvel just trying to push their Inhuman line at Xmen's expense or is there some other motive?

>>88560195
I wish Namor would hang out with the X-Men again.

He was glorious. It was the only time he was written interestingly, because there was no sue storm to make it boring

>>88561163
How do you think :)

>>88547707
>Not leaving your dramatic tribe of deformities and cunt of a wife (who can read your thoughts) that sucked your evil brother's dick in front of you.
>Not opening a classy-ass bar and fuck classy-ass bitches all the time.

Didn't he had 4 wifes at some point?

>>88562479
>sucked your evil brother's dick in front of you.
Technically, that was a skrull replacement.

>>88562479
>Didn't he had 4 wifes at some point?
5. He loved one, hated one, and was indifferent to the other 3.

>>88556730
Of course.

>>88560195
Does anybody else feel bad for AIM? These guys are just nerds in stupid suits, but here fucking Colossus is beating one into dirt.

>>88556454
No more mutants actually took powers away from people though.
All killing the clouds does is stop people being forcefully changed into inhumans against their will

>>88562984
If they didn't want to get beat up by circus freaks, then they shouldn't have worn stupid suits.

Turtlenecks are where the money's at anyways