Peace on earth, Goodwill to men

>>88543092
I really liked the war scenes, too bad there never was a mature animation short with the same artstyle (that i know of)

>>88543092
This is my favorite post-apocalyptic christian furry cartoon.

>>88543303
The remake by Hanna and Barbera literally does that.

>>88543092

What did he mean by this?

>>88543328
Whoa! Really? Or are just fucking with me?

>>88543480
Check it out nigger

For context:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4QnF0cIRw0

And here's the remake for you, anon >>88543480
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7lJV8IX1ig

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So who here is team meat eater?

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>>88543696
And who's team vegetarian?

>>88543728
This is very unrealistic. The vegetarians would've all died immediately. They could've used something more believable to symbolize pettiness of conflict.

>>88543092
Where the humans gone?

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>>88543780

>>88543780
Or perhaps would the meat-eater have died sooner, since raising animals for food is much more resource-intensive than growing crops for human consumption?
>>88543849
That would have been a bit on the nose for the 30s audience, don't you think?

Besides, the major conflicts of that time were between political ideologies, not religions

>>88543849
damn....

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>>88543780

>>88543685
thanks anon
it is nice to see this cartoon after all these years

>>88543780
Depends on the diet. Isn't there some village of vegetarian Indians that is absurdly ripped and basically supplies the bodyguards and bouncers for most of the nation?

>>88543991
>implying the sissy faggots who are against skub would last one hour in a real war

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>good will to men.....and women

>>88543092
In the edge of the abyss
In the folds of black grounds and carmine rivers

Forth! Forth with blind eyes and empty hearts! May our arms be as stiff and firm as the dream that awaits us!

is this short actually any good or is it just another "le golden age is gud guise" meme?

>>88544427
Well, to answer that question you could either spend 20 minutes reading various anon's opinions on it, or you could spend 4 minutes watching the first half of the short yourself and come to your own conclusion.

>>88543092
>Peace On Earth
Literally impossible since man is born and lives for war
The moment humanity attains world peace is the moment it stops becoming human

>>88544332
Nice. Got any more webms?

I would really love to see the 1939 short in good quality. The only restored releases of it are on two obscure DVDs.

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>>88544487
So I see you didn't watch the cartoon. It's ABOUT how peace on earth is attained once humanity becomes extinct

>>88543685
Who spread Christianity to the animals?

>>88544534
>implying it wont start in in a couple of years since the animals are becoming more and more human
anon pls

>>88544563
They read cliffnotes Bible.

>>88544563
I dunno. How can animals read?

It's allegorical, not realistic

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>>88544487

>>88544563
Jesus said the rocks would do it.

>>88543780
>They could've used something more believable to symbolize pettiness of conflict.

It's something that the kids could relate to; a society made up of different animal species would have very different views on Vegetarianism vs Carnivorism than humanity.

>>88543685
10/10 Weirdest Fallout DLC to date

post yfw someone decides to create a remake fit for [CURRENT YEAR]

I think that the World War One imagery of the '39 short is much better at portraying the brutality and self-destructiveness of war than the '55 one. It's much more emotional to see a soldier, in his last acts of life, kill an opposing soldier before succumbing to his wounds than it is to see a colored fireball overtaking a globe.

>>88544877
Name even one studio that could do a remake justice.

>>88544877
No way that it would get remade in the current climate. We are far, far removed from the way of how the world was in 1939, when people were actually terrified of war like that.

>>88543685
Wow, for some reason I didn't know about the remake until now. The war animation is really impressive.

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>>88543849
if you actually watched the animated short it was religion that inspired the animals the rebuild civilization

>>88543849
Tips fedora

>>88545102
I watched it a long time ago, and was talking about the human conflict.

Its also not a wise idea to post pictures of yourself on 4chan like that.

>>88545150
https://carm.org/religion-cause-war

>>88545187
I know better than to click on a link from 4chan.

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>>88543092

lol, I though it was this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDaOgu2CQtI

>>88544563
Deus Vult

>>88544936
This.

Ironically in the most peaceful period of human history we now lust for war.

>>88544877
Whats truly sad is that with the current calarts bean mouth style it would loose all grit and realism of the short missing the point that war is actually serious business and fucking awful and that a war that could lead to grim future without humans isnt that far from reality.

In this day and age it will be a safe, colourful, mediocre cartoon without the conection with religion nor will have any merits of its own, it will also stir up soccer moms demanding everything to be censored in their "someone think of the children" mentality.

Everywhere else they just say something along the lines "HOW DID THEY GET AWAY WITH THAT?!?!?!" jaking off to mediocrity passing off as good.

>>88545685
Just as we did at the turn of the 19th century, a time when the Euros dominated the globe and the west was won. Anybody else see that selective service poster with the hipster advertising war with Russia? People said it was a hit piece on Shillary and not real, but I had my doubts and brought shivers.

>>88545870
Don't forget a crazy progressive message that completely misses the point, evil white men, and a worthless chuck of a main character like Dipper or Lincoln.

>>88544534
the idea that humans are uniquely bad or violent compared to animals is a very old meme and a very irritating one. animals are violent shits, they just cant do violence on a large scale like we can because they're dumb.

>>88547030
then how come they speak english and wear clothes?

>>88544487
The Christmas Truce kind of proved that war can be avoided so long as you don't have some fat, mustache waxing fuck sitting comfortable at a desk thousands of miles from the battlefield demanding you keep fighting or get shot in the back.

>>88547194
https://a.pomf.cat/xkfwpr.webm

>>88543092
>>88543685

>the lamppost is actually a knife

peaceville? more like rest-in-piecesville

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>>88544527
this is from a pearl jam music video

>>88547250
>lamppost is a knife

And the houses are helmets. Probably didn't bother to remove the skulls either.

>>88547194
All those mustached waxers are only in power by the will of those who die and kill for them.

If humans need to be collectively cooked in a barbed wire hell to realize 'hold on, this isn't benefiting any of us! maybe we should just kick a ball around in the snow, have some fun instead?' then we probably deserve the barbed wire.

>>88547299
Exposed bones are generally gnawed away by rodents for nutrition.

>>88547194
>what was the Battle of Trenton
>what was the Tet Offensive
Holidays don't mean shit to war.

>>88547475
I'll point out both of those battles were initiated by modernist rebel forces, not traditionalist forces. Traditionalists and established governments are more likely to benefit from adhering to codes of conduct and ethics.

>>88546476
We as a people (mainly the big world powers and their allies) have become so removed from War, it's almost alien to us.

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a sjw gamer lesbian couple tell their adopted latino daughter and her chubby friend the story of MEN

>>88548906
>butch war vet regaling her stories of battle to the kids
>uptown lipstick lesbian frowns in disapproval
If this were done right, I'd actually watch this.

>>88548906
>stray panties just lying on the floor
This is a good image.

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>>88548906

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>>88547267

>>88545538
ITS EVOLUTION, BABY

>>88548906
those are some cute lesbians

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>>88548906
Why are grandpappy and grandma both young and lesbians?

Why are they half naked when it's raining outside?

Why are there panties on the ground, who the fuck leaves underwear lying on the floor?

Why is there a loss image on there?

How are they playing another game when Bloodborne is the only game on the PS4?

Who the fuck names themself barrel, especially taking out the extra r and a e with a y?

legalizing gay marrige is a mistake.

>>88548906
I thought you were kidding.
Fuck.

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>>88543696
team meat here.

>>88550319
degeneracy.

>>88543696
>>88543728

No Team Omnivore?

I don't like how there's always these things where the creators try to be really deep by talking about how "humans are always fighting each other for no good reason because they're violent and evil". Like obviously most wars are started by hate and greed and stuff, and it often has nothing to do with the best interest of the normal guys doing the fighting, but "humans fight because they're just like that" completely ignores the actual reasons wars are fought, especially when people are fighting for good reasons. Like when one country tries to invade another, or commit genocide and the other country defends itself, are they just both examples of humans loving to kill each other?

I mean the second cartoon came out just ten years after the end of world war 2, was the distinction between being a Nazi who wanted to commit genocide and not being a Nazi just a petty little difference? How were the people of Poland, Norway, France, Denmark, Belgium, Holland, The USSR, and the UK supposed to at like saintly pacifists when they were being attacked? Did world war 2 just happen for no reason? Did it not really matter?

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>>88554188
It's just one of those savage and cruel things that we like to pretend we've outgrown. At least until the next war starts, anyway.

War is the way of Man.

Man is the means of War.

We'll never get away from it. But sometimes it's nice to pretend we will.

>humans get extinct
>there's peace on Earth
Neat.

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>>88554427
War sure is rough.

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>>88554427
I have a couple more.

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>>88543780
>The vegetarians would've all died immediately

This.

Pretty hard to fight when you have no source of protein.

>>88548906
fucking loss

>>88554651
> meat eaters win battle but lose war when they all die of cancer

>>88554830

> they actually ate fish

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>>88554623
I think I should add some nuclear firecrackers to your war footage.

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>>88543696
You can pry these sausages from my cold dead hands!

>>88554839
> Mercury poisoning

plenty of veggie have proteins though so thats no issue for veggie eaters

>>88544105
DEATH TO SKUB!

>>88554427
Is it actually considered wrong to shoot civilians who are actively aiding military forces in this manner? The idea of sparing civilians s is based on a distinction between combatants and non-combatants.

>>88554975

Good luck with that B12!

>>88547030
Fucking this.
You want to see violent animals? Check out meerkats, those psychotic fuckers murder each other more often than humans murder each other.

>>88554427
>Humans are the only creatures doing war
The ants, termites and several primate species would like to have a word with you.

>>88555082
I'm not saying it's a bad thing. War is the one thing we humans are really, really good at.

Embrace it.

>>88555122
You first

>>88555122
Im not saying it's either good or bad.
We just feel so strongly about it because we have been fighting between each other, telling tales of those wars to each other and invented weaponry with which to scorch the planet.

Now imagine the nightmare stories ants could tell you if they invented Napalm and means to deploy it...

>>88544069
maybe in one of your japanese cartoons

>>88555156
I think it was Einstein who said something to the effect of "one day we'll invent of a weapon so horrible that nobody will ever wage war again."

Me, I'm not so convinced.

>>88555027
Good luck with mercury poisoning and cancer!

>>88555205
i think we would then just keep on using older weapons and the superpowers would retain from fighting each other directly.
So think of cold war in space where folks randomly uplift a species and arm them so they can start fighting against some super empire in which territory they are living in.

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>>88554478
>Fort was Captured by tiny force of 10 German artillery engineers after bombardment as it was held by only a skeleton crew of 60 NCO French hiding in the cellars and MG nests under assumption it couldn't be useful in the face of modern artillery
>Becomes key to German military operations in the area.
>Loss probably resulted in 100,000 later french casualties.

>THEN this happens

"Earlier, on 8 May 1916, a careless cooking fire had detonated grenades and flamethrower fuel. This in turn had detonated an ammunition cache. Apparently some of the soldiers tried to heat coffee using some of the fuel from flamethrowers, which proved to be too flammable and spread to shells which were without caution placed right next to such environments. A firestorm ripped through the fort, killing hundreds of soldiers instantly, including the entire 12th Grenadiers regimental staff. Worse, some of the 1,800 wounded and soot-blackened survivors attempting to escape the inferno were mistaken for attacking French colonial African infantry and were fired upon by their comrades. Results are 679 casualties."

>Still repel attacks until evacuation and recapture in late October.


It's like a monstrously grand clown show except the dead ones don't get to play in the next act!

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>>88555584
Could be worse. You could get buried alive tunneling under an enemy trench.

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>>88555584
You want war comedy?
I'll give you war comedy!

Also let me tell you a short tale of what happened after the battle of Tsushima where Japs owned Ruskies.
>Battle is over
>Battleship Mikasa and other Japanese ships in port
>Troops ordered to stay on ships
>No alcohol usage allowed
>Troops want to party
>Some troops hold a secret party in the powder magazine
>Rice wine flowing
>Somebody gets really drunk and knocks over the oil lamp
>Powder magazine explodes
>Ship is half sinking in the port
>This is the only time in the Russo-Japanese war a Japanese battleship was in some way harmed and even then it was done by its own crew

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>>88555693
More is yet to come!

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>>88555715
And now the prelude to the entire war.

>>88543780
Nigga, have you even watched Popeye?

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>>88555731
Next one is last image i have.

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>>88555748
And that was the tale of the second pacific squadron and more or less the tale of before and during the Russo-Japanese war.

>>88555584
>Worse, some of the 1,800 wounded and soot-blackened survivors attempting to escape the inferno were mistaken for attacking French colonial African infantry and were fired upon by their comrades

Jesus Christ. It's like a live action Tom and Jerry cartoon.

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>>88555748
Fucking Katmchatka

>>88554188
>I don't like how there's always these things where the creators try to be really deep by talking about how "humans are always fighting each other..

I'm gonna stop reading right there and take a moment to point out to you that this short was made in 1939. This message might be old now, but it was still very new then. People were just coming around from an old mentality that man dominated the earth and that everything was made to be conquered by somebody or other, and were beginning to think that maybe humanity as a whole has a couple of inherent flaws that should maybe be addressed. It was a good thing then. We now live in a more cynical age where we've been looking at our own flaws for a while now, and it's frustrating and many of us want to now move on from that and regain a little optimism again, which is great, but it misses the perspective Peace on Earth had in its own time.

>>88555779
>Thought they were attacked by surprise Japanese torpedo ships
>Off the coast of the British Isles

I'm going to assume that only 1 in 20 Russian sailors even knew vaguely what hemisphere Japan was located in did they? I mean this must help explain that 'vital shipment' of winter gear in to East Africa and the Indian Ocean.

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>>88555779
Poor Russia.

>>88555960
Like it said in the post, Britons were allied with the Japs, so my guess is that the fleet was being just paranoidly careful of Japs and their torpedo boats.

Hell, during the Spanish-American war yanks were also terrified of torpedo boats and thus shelled anything that even vaguely looked like torpedo tubes.
Including a rail line and a train near one coast.

>>88544877

It already happened anon. It's called Battlefield 1.

>>88555249
>i think we would then just keep on using older weapons and the superpowers would retain from fighting each other directly.

So precisely what the world is like now.

>>88552663
The first to be slaughtered for not joining the Reps and Demos. ...I mean, the meateaters and the vegetarians.

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>>88556561
Torpedo boats ain't no joke. Just look what happened to the Austro-Hungarian battleship thanks to two Italian torpedo boats.

>>88554478
It sure is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNR7oOdIKh8&index=43&list=FLJAFY2kKKb5sg79yld7T3hA

The first radio conversation is depressing af
>Chechen: Alik, while you still have the chance, won't you maybe please pull your guys back somehow?
>Chechen: Alik, don't do this thing. You won't make it out alive. You will die and I will die, and to what end? Please understand, who will benefit? Not you or I.
>Chechen: Dont you get it? In combat nor you nor I will show mercy, right? Better come visit me as a guest, Alik. Pull your guys back, you don't have to do this Alik...give the order.
>Tank commander: I'm not authorized to make that kind of a decision.
>Chechen: Alik, please understand....from the bottom of my heart, I really want you to live. So it's best that you leave.
>Tank commander: I don't have that option. I have my orders and I will carry them out no matter what.

>>88554651
plants have protein you idiot

>>88543685
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIMQip_cjLI

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>Gloomy, WWI-WWII animation

>>88559848
Cannon fodder was just amazing.

>>88559848
This is from Memories isn't it?

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>>88559914
That's the one

>>88544534
Go find a badger and tell me how nice it is.

>>88555657
Or be in said enemy trench when the several tons of explosives go off.

>>88548906
Funny because women nowadays are the ones lusting for war in the hopes of getting glory thanks to current year Feminism. I get the impression that liberals would attempt to start WW3 in the hopes of getting magical wartime approve ratings.

>>88543092
>>88543685

>great grandad and his brother fought in the great war
>his brother didnt make it home

I think about it a lot, my older brother and I are very close, I'd definitely follow him to war if we were in the same situation, I keep fixating on how I would go on if I lost him, I wish that on anyone

>>88560779
*wouldnt wish

>>88560103
They just wanna eat grubs and be left alone. Everyone knows not to start shit with badgers and if a badger tries to start shit with you you move out of its way.

Besides, I never said all animals are nice. Just that the short says there will be peace (as in, no war- at least not as we know it) if men don't exist.

Remind me why we're trying to start shit with Russia again? I don't wanna get conscripted to fight in a frozen shithole.

>>88543685
I prefer the 1939 version. Better animation and dialogue too.

But also the idea that humans fought literally to the last man seems about right (that death scene of the soldier is beautiful). Nuclear annihilation is ok, but duking it out until the bitter end just felt right. Felt human.

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>>88561102
Don't worry anon. Soon we'll have robots to do all the killing.

>>88561102
Because if you're not willing to start shit then you will just let everyone else's shit grow into worse shit. See: Neville Chamberlain.

>>88560430
>in current year, feminists are the ones vying for Valhalla
what the fuck is wrong with this timeline?

>>88561219
Why does that thing remind me of a late 90's low poly space ship?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd_6SYW2xwA

Good Will to Men (1955)

Remake of Peace on Earth


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBRkJBHpQ-I

>>88561269
The current generation of men are being shamed for having ambitions, power, and obeying the traditions that have held their nations together for centuries. They're also being blame on the sin of their forefathers. Meanwhile, women and minorities want power because they think they're owed something for the suffering their people have experienced. Luckily, nothing will happen, mostly because both women and minorities of the 21st Century are too pathetic to fight for their own ideals.

>>88543092
I wish we got more war scenes in animated films.

The two combat scenes from American Pop were great. I can't find the WWI segment, but here is the WWII.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSr7xNkL7D4

>>88562910
>typical hun

Around a Kraut,
There should be no doubt!

>>88555038
Timon is murdering his siblings left and right.

there was a remake of this toon called good will to men ya know

>>88563446
And it's infinitely better than the original.

>>88562910
Aside from the obvious mature content, rarely do we see could war scenes in 2D animation because you know, animating entire armies is hard work

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>Humanity dies
>Christianity lives on

it's a good thing those animals didn't find some other tome

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>>88544877
>[CURRENT YEAR] Peace on earth
>what are men?
>well, men are terrible monsters who put value into horrible things
>they had a horrible snout coming from their mouth and going into their crotch
>...
>after all that fighting was done the men plunged into unchecked hedonism
>soon enough the men destroyed their families
>and then the man invented new genders, validating their madness
>when some men didn't cave into that madness, they were ousted and hated
>men's hedonism and depravity eventually killed them
>they were so focused on doing deviant things to each other, that nobody was producing food
>soon, the last man starved to death

>>88554975
>plenty of veggie have proteins

not the ones you can grow in sufficient numbers.

>>88543685
I like the earlier version more, just the idea of humans literally fighting down to the last people to kill each other is neat

>>88555584
Got the battle of some old war where one side thought half it army was the enemy and they attacked each other?

>>88556789
That was hilarious, though.
>Hungarians getting their own battleship, named after their founding king, and saint
>gets sunk day one by torpedo boats
It was brilliant.

>>88555169
I'd watch that.

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>>88544105
Skubfags, this is your mindset.

>>88560795
I was bouta say fuck you man

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>>88556912
no mercy, no empathy for Chechen scum

>>88544936
Just from the level of detail in the weapons and gear you can tell the animators involved probably fought in WW1. You don't have anyone around with that kind of life experience these days, probably for the best all things considered.

>>88569352
a very large percent of people in the early days of animation were either WW1 veterans or had some connection to the war(Walt Disney for example joined a Red Cross unit that went over to France, although he made it over there almost immediately before the Armistice)

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>>88554610
I got shell shock for you

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>>88570492
And all these caused that. The animators did a great job showing just enough violence that you understood the graveness of it. Just not too much that it made some cringe or turn it off

>>88554427
>War is the way of Man.
>Man is the means of War.
Really fires up the ol' noggin.

>>88555122
We're also really really good at building gigantic civilizations and modern marvels.
Makes ya think.

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>>88570691
We're really good at destroying them.

>>88570759
You said that already.
>Whoah. So this... is the power... of man
Now say something like "we could be exploring the stars of humanity wasn't interested in killing each other". Add a Neil DeGrasse Tyson pic while you're at it.

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>>88570655

>>88570828
Looks like a modern art exhibit.

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>>88570802
I think you misunderstand my intentions.

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>>88570907
>0 second long webm of an image

>>88543685
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4QnF0cIRw0

Where'd the critters get the tiny tools from?

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>>88570802
Bruh, the only reason we'd be exploring the stars is because we found out there's some other civilization out there that needs conquering.

Not trying to be a pseudo-intellectual snooty pacifist. War is what we're good at. Fucking celebrate it.

>>88570904
It is a modern art exhibit, in Canada even.
I don't know what the creator calls it, but /k/ worships it as the Murder Cube.
A few have even made pilgrimages to it. You can go inside it too!

>>88570940
It's also 215KB while still keeping the same quality and resolution as the original 20MB PNG image.

Webm is the future.

>>88570987
Go out and experience war for real, in your own life. Then you can tell me that it's something worth celebrating

>>88570987
No, you're just being a pseudo-intellectual. No pacifist required.
>I've never fought in a war (or anything), the post

>>88571058
>>88571115
Give me a list of great things our species has accomplished that hasn't also improved our ability to wage war on one another.

I'll wait.

>>88571282
dank memes

>>88571319
Memetic warfare.

>>88571282
How about I don't answer your loaded question.
>Jet engines invented for war
>Radar invented for war
>Rockets invented for cold war
>Material science in general undergoing huge discoveries largely for war
Two-way street.

>>88571282
The camera, the lightbulb, and Sham-wows

>>88571346
Without war we'd still be living in mud huts as illiterate hunter-gatherers. Conflict is what drives innovation, and war is the ultimate conflict.

>>88571377
I'm sure that's a very comforting thought to have as you slowly bleed out in a muddy ditch

>>88571365
>The camera

Battlefield surveillance and intelligence gathering.

>lightbulb

Now I don't have to carry an oil lantern to be able to see inside this potentially flammable-gas-filled siege tunnel!

>Sham-wows

Ok, you got me there.

>>88571412
materiel needs to be cleaned.

Now sheep clones. Those haven't been used in war yet.

>>88571412
The camera and lightbulb weren't invented for those purposes though, they just so happen to also have that use. Shit that's useful to a civilian in New York can also be useful, in somewhat different ways, to a grunt inna Dumbfuckistan.

>>88571377
>Adversity drives innovation
No shit?
>War is the ultimate conflict
2deep4me. How's the taste of your own dick, you've been sucking yourself off this whole thread. Literally epitome of "makes ya think."

>>88571456
Cloned meat rations?

Hasn't been done yet, but I can see it.

>>88543685
This may be the only time rocket artillery has ever been depicted in a cartoon.

>>88571489
What a thing was made to do and what we actually end up using it for are usually miles apart in reality.

You should know that. Just look at nuclear energy,

>>88571493
>waaaa I can't admit he's right so I'll just call him a faggot

>>88571500
Cloned rations would be far more expensive than actual rations.

Or even shmeat.

>>88571565
Guess that's why cloning hasn't really made a big break yet. Not practical for anything yet.

Now how about cloned soldiers? Not sapient or anything; dumb flesh automatons controlled remotely through cybernetic implants.

>>88571565
>>88571629
Or better, using clones as a means of achieving effective immortality ala EVE Online.

Would casualties be such a big deal if the combatants just woke up back at base in another body when they died?

>>88571629
Just straight robots would be cheaper and easier to replace parts for and standard and interchangeable parts are one of the things that DID revolutionize war.

Fuck's sake some of our current planes have parts scavenged from museum pieces.

>>88571687
Clones don't work that way and if you could store and transfer consciousness, robot body would be the way to go.

>>88571559
I never said he was wrong, I said he's a pseudo-intellectual and heavily implied that his thinking is shallow. And I firmly stand by that, it's about one step away from /r/atheism level intelligence.

>>88571720
I wonder what the psychological consequences of having an entirely synthetic body would be.

>>88571629
If mindless expendable flesh sacks were okay to make, they'd be used for organ harvesting if anything.

>>88571745
It'd largely depend on how attached you are to your own self image, how closely it could mimic sensory inputs, and any societal implications.

A person that sees himself as a monster, sees the world through alien eyes, and is looked upon with horror by society is going to fair a tad bit worse than someone that doesn't give a fuck, doesn't experience much of a difference with the sensory inputs, and isn't looked at as out of the ordinary.

Worst case scenario the subject would develop severe body image disorders, ghost limbs, and social anxiety disorder spiraling into depression and suicide.

>>88571412
Not that guy but most of math after calculus.
Philosophy
Archeology
Biology
Cosmology

and most inventions related to those fields.

>>88572018
>Cosmology
>A great innovation

>>88572018
...What has cosmology done except fuel the atheist fedora circlejerk?

>>88572018
>Philosophy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_war

tl;dr provides us with justifications, right or not, for waging future wars. Gives us an outlet to excuse our past and future atrocities.

"Murder is not murder if it was war" and all that jazz.

>Archaeology
Allows us to compare our own methods for waging war to that of our ancestors.

>Biology
This is a broad as fuck field that covers everything from agriculture to microbiology, genetics, and biomedical research. I think it should be obvious what the benefits of these are to warring nations.

>Cosmology
See >>88572091 and >>88572159

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>>88560430
Where are you getting this idea?

The number of war hungry feminists is pretty much insignificant compared to the "peace at all cost" bleeding heart types.

>>88572159
You mean apart from being used to navigate for centuries ?

Helping us understand physics better.

>>88572587
>Cosmology
>the science of the origin and development of the universe.

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>The opinions on war in this thread
War isn't something that should be celebrated.

Its a terrible thing done out of necessity, there are good reasons to fight wars and we should not shy away from fighting them when they need to be fought, but that does make war itself a good thing.

War is something that should be treated with the seriousness and weight it deserves.

Celebrating war is just crass.

>>88572839
It was Mel Blanc, I think you mean

>>88543092
Did you know that was Mel Blanc as the Grandpa Squirrel?

>>88571831
The question here is, Are you Cliff Steele, or Major Kusanagi?

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>>88570828
>tfw you've actually seen the holy murder/k/ube in person
I feel so blessed, as if Saint Browning himself smiles upon me every time I apply the holy Hoppes No. 9 to my firearms.

>>88555584
>Hey Blackie.
>Anymore babes in there?
Get's me every time

>>88544534
that bbw squirrel milf...

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WW1 should have ended in a stalemate or victory for the central powers, because the world would be a better place now.
>Without ultra hard reperations no WW2
>No European braindrain
>Indipendence movemnts would have happened differently
>Osmanian Empire would eventually not collapse or at least later
>Less middle east fuckery
>Probablility of random border drawings in africa would be less likely or happen later. Maybe even some colonies left for UK and GE
Though I have no idea what would have happened in Asia because I don't know enough about there i that time. Probably a war between the German and Japanese Empires over their islands idk. Still, many modern conficts wouldn't even exist today.

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>>88576513
>Without ultra hard reperations no WW2
>Falling for inter war german propoganda
Its ridiculous how much traction this myth has gotten, if anything the cause of WW2 was that the treaty of versaille was too soft and wasn't actually enforced. Germany and its allies started the largest war in history, resulting in the deaths of millions and large scale destruction of large sections of France and Belgium.

Germany was bloody lucky that it was allowed to exist as a nation at all after that shit show of a war, but no, gotta bitch about having to repay the damage you caused in France and Belgium (despite taking zero damage to German industry or fucking anything other than manpower) and devaluing your own currency in order to get out of paying your debts.

>Though I have no idea what would have happened in Asia because I don't know enough about there i that time

The rest of what you've posted is wild speculation at best, or just flat out wrong at worst.

0/10 try again.

Would anime and manga be what it is today if Japan was on the Allied side in WW2?

>>88543092
It depresses me that I know too much of the world to enjoy the sentiment of "peace on earth, good will to men" anymore.

I miss being able to believe in such a thing.

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>>88543092
SENPAI!

LET IT DIE!!!

>>88545685
>now
>peaceful
If only.

We maintain the illusion of peace against ourselves as we get more and more stress put upon a failing system.

It's scary.

>>88564461
nice billion year old meme friendo

>>88554577
Damn, they weren't kidding about russian women being stacked.

>>88571720
Couldn't you replace your brain in a younger clone body?

>>88554188
That's a very simplistic view of the Second World War. Germany invaded Poland because they refused to return land taken from Germany after the First World War, which split Germany proper from Prussia. It is likely that they refused because Britain and France emboldened them by guaranteeing their independence should Germany invade, leading to them refusing to hand over the land Germany desired. Germany claimed that German populations were being oppressed in Poland, and that Poland actually attacked first, and invaded. Britain and France promptly declared war on Germany, which escalated what would have been a small regional conflict into a worldwide conflict. The UK and France were not attacked at that stage.

Also interesting to note is that the USSR also invaded Poland when Germany did, and massacred some Poles, which they later attributed to Germany. They had also invaded Finland, taking territory from them previously, and had invaded the Baltic states of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

Germany invaded Belgium and the Netherlands in order to avoided french fortifications that would have prolonged the war. They succeeded in occupying France, and retaking areas which had German majority populations that were lost after WW1.

Germany invaded the USSR for a variety of reasons. However, on potential reason is that they became aware that Stalin was planning to invade and conquer not just them, but all of western Europe.

Essentially, World War 2 was overall a pretty pointless war. It created a bleak geopolitical situation that is still very apparent today. It broke the back of Europe, leading to it's decline, and the rise of the US and USSR as the pre-eminent superpowers. Sure, the Nazis were not the nicest people, but neither was the USSR, or most of the other powers. Eugenics was practiced in the US, British, French, and Belgian empires created vast colonial holdings through invasion and geopolitical meddling, and the USSR killed and oppressed plenty.

>>88576591
>Germany and its allies started the largest war in history,

that is at least half false and arguably wholly false

>>88559848
T-that's a lot of dakka.

>>88576591
Poincaré pls, go back to bed

>>88576621
still shit

>>88577002
Gork and Mork would be proud.

>>88562910
Ralph Bakshi was the closest to "American Anime" as we'd ever get for his era. Realistic and detailed like Akira. I always thought the Swastika Helmet was just that particular soldier decorating his helmet. Like guys in Vietnam writing "born to kill" on their helmets.

>>88576591

t. Ferdinand Foch

That's funny, considering Germany was initially only at war with Russia. They asked France to remain neutral, and received no reply. So, what was Germany to do? Allow France to gain the initiative against them while they fought with Russia, essentially putting them on the back foot right from the start?

Germany asked Belgium to give them military access in order to fight France. Belgium refused, and so Germany invaded.

Is Germany partially at fault? Yes. Entirely? No, and if you say they were, you don't understand the complex web of alliances and widespread jingoism that caused the first world war.

It's not a myth. The Treaty of Versailles was idiotic. If the victors had reinstated the Kaiser into power, you wouldn't have had the incompetent and reviled Wiemar Republic, and the power vacuum it caused, which lead to the Nazis taking power.

A harsher treaty of Versailles would have probably done nothing at best, and may have even made it worse. If you split Germany into separate states, how will you prevent them from simply reforming? Keep in mind the great depression occupied the nations that were supposed to be enforcing the treaty of Versailles, and nationalism doesn't just go away when you split up a nation.

>>88552663
The vegatarians didn't accept anyone who ate meat.

>>88555715
The green-on-pink format is atrocious, btw.

>>88572742
War is proof that humanity still has something worth fighting for.

>>88580836
>something worth fighting for
war itself?

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>>88580861
death

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>>88580836
>>88580861
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdlc4b5NL5g