What are the things that make you root for the villain, /co/?

>>88466226
when the hero is a retarded asshole and the villain is the only person in the show that makes any sense.

Villains that treat their henchmen well.

>>88466226
When the protagonists are trash & the villain's goal is sensible.

>>88466262
this and when the villian actually has reasoning for his intentions, and the protagonists are simple minded douchebags that only see things in black and white.

A fucking entertaining, bombastic personality that is 10x more enjoyable than whatever flat bullshit personality the hero is given.

>>88466226
When the villain is way more interesting and complex than the hero.
I don't care for the everyman self-insert.

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When the hero is written to be a safe role model and the villain is aloud to have more personality.

waifu

>>88466309
But what if both are entertaining as hell. I am ofcourse speaking of a certain detective mouse and his rat adversary

Toffee and Ludo (in season 2) are way more likeable than any of the 'heroes'

Doofenshmirtz was only reason I even watched Phineas and ferb

>Villain is not a psychopath
>Villain has a reason to do what they do that isn't "I'm evil"
>Villain is likeable or charismatic
>Villain is more developed than the hero
>Hero is only the hero because the plot says so

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I usually root for villains because I'm edgy. The Hero has to be especially resonant for me to like them over the villain by default.

>>88466537
>>88466260
>>88466270
Name one fucking medium where the villain is legitimately more sensible than the hero.

>>88466226
great design, personality and also it helps if the mc is stupid

>>88466680
TTG

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>>88466226
If they're cute.
I wish more people liked the Glooms

>>88466680
Freakazoid maybe? I haven't watched it in a while.

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>>88466711
That whole segment of Hildy trying to get a friend and getting rejected just for being a witch

>>88466680
>medium
Opera

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>>88466680

>>88466226
why did this show fail?

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>>88466680
He just wanted a quite life.

>>88467393
AND ANOTHER ONE GONE AND ANOTHER ONE GONE ANOTHER ONE BITES ZA DUSTO

>>88467195
Not enough Glooms

>>88467195
The main focus was on the dwarves and they weren't written nearly as well as the Glooms or Queen Delightful. Unfortunately the dwarves just weren't that interesting.

>>88466966
At least the cow came to her party.

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>>88467195
Not enough waifus

>>88466680
Tom and Jerry.

>>88467393
I unironically wanted him to successfully kill the entire main cast just so he can get his quiet life.

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>>88468670
A show only needs one to make it stand out.

>>88466680

Well, of course you can't name an entire *medium* where that's universally true.

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>>88466226
Making them likeable and sympathetic characters.

>>88466226
When the good guys are wrong or insufferable.

>>88466463
Then you have a great fucking movie.

>>88466680
Korra

>>88466226
Being a more interesting character than the hero.

>>88466711
They're basically Team Rocket is they were married and also wizards, which is defiantly an interesting concept.

>>88468576
I did like Grumpy, but the others fell a little flat.

>>88468623
Why wouldn't she come to her own party?

>>88472353
That's generally the case, isn't it?

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>>88466428
Them having a vagina plays a big part.

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>>88467495
>>88468576
I feel like a show about the Glooms as the main characters, being inept villains, would have been much more enjoyable.

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More maybe even as parents who happen to be villains.

>>88473802
Trust me, You aren't the only one who feels that way. It feels like even the writers wanted to do more with their characters.

https://youtu.be/2FTygC-EiVw

>>88473802
would have made me watch more of it

>>88466226
Big titties

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Have we finally found a cartoon character that's too innocent to sexualize?

>>88466414
THIS, same reason why usually the sidekick has more personality that the main hero. Think Luigi, Bolin, Donald/Goofy, Shaggy, Ron and ChatNoir.

>>88475444

Uh, certainly not in this thread.

>>88476597
What makes you say that?

>>88476769

If you don't think there's an element of sexuality in >>88474543 or >>88474559, I don't know what to tell you.

>>88475444
Grim and Hildy individually are extremely easy to sexualize, but their relationship together is not. It's just too cute, I can't even imagine them having sex

>>88476863
There's nothing sexual about taking a refreshing shower or relaxing at the beach

>>88476931
What's the farthest you think they'll go?

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Intelligence, when they play the long-game, are different than the other villains, have a tragic backstory or a solid motivation, and having a great voice-actor helps too, like pic-related.

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>>88475444
>a cartoon character that's too innocent to sexualize?

>>88477327
kissing on the lips

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>the villain has more personal investment in their goals than the hero, who's only there to defend the broken status quo that's pushing people into villainy
>the villain gets to embody more uninhibited wish-fufillment fantasies than the hero, who's generally forced to give more than they gain
>the villain is just so over-the-top and debased from humanity that you can't help but want to humor their insane cartoon logic

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>>88466226
When they're hilarious, bombastic, and devilishly good looking.

>>88475444
Is this loss?

>>88477603
Nice try Ivo.

When they are hot and have a vagina because there is no such thing as an evil sexy chick.

Usually just when the villian is funnier than the hero.

>>88468731
well he did successfully kill the entire main cast

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>>88466226

Constantly failing at the simplest task. It's not so much "rooting" for them as I pity them and wish they'd get a lucky break.

>>88466226
when there are no heroes.
watchmen comes to mind.
>>88466260
>>88466680
superman and lex luthor would be a good example of this

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>>88475444
>>88477372

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I rooted for the bear in the Revenant. She just wanted to keep her babies safe. Now they're going to die alone and unloved.

They've got loved ones of their one, and genuinely care for most of their teammates.

Do they make my penis enlarge in length and width?