Ms Marvel is no longer a top 100 book

>>88397255
>How do we fix Ms Marvel?
Convert her to Christianity.

>>88397255
Make her an ex-muslim.

Triple her breast size.

>>88397255
Make her a lesbian.

She is lost. Just put her down before she can suffer more.

>>88397255
It would've helped if she didn't rally her fellow minorities and poor people to vote for the in-universe equivilent of Hilarry, and then have neither candidate win anyway.

>>88397255
Stop trying to tie her into events. I know it goes against everything Marvel knows but the audience that Kamala appeals to loathes the event system of selling comics and would rather sit those issues out and pick it up later in trades.

And honestly... After CW2, could you really blame them?

I don't see her being fixed. People liked her when she was an optimist having fun adventures (the thing people want from pretty much every young hero book).

but she's muslim and marvel is on their sjw kick so of course they will turn her into a mouth piece.

the fix is easy, it's just not going to happen.

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>>88397255

Stop involving her in shitty events.

Maybe stop having shitty events too, but that's probably too much to ask for.

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>>88397255
>But how do we get Kamala back to her former glory?
You can't. Because of the ANAD relaunch she was put on an Avengers team, so she went directly from rookie hero to pro hero without any serious experience or development. Then CWII made her lose supporting cast and potential storylines and now Champions is gonna ruin her reputation among readers.

Have her stories be fun and optimistic like they were in the beginning instead of making her a projection for Marvel's progressive boner. Yeah her race and religion is important through her family interactions. But it isnt what DEFINES her.

>>88397255
jesus fucking christ, is that dialog a joke? dumbass kids have been saying that same fucking part since the 60's. i bet you could find some other marvel character saying basically the same thing every couple years from the beginning of the silver age to now.

>fame
Her popularity was ALWAYS a meme, never reality

>>88397255
How do we push Miles down to her level?

>>88397405
Loki will make Midgard great again

>>88397876
People try to put us down...

>>88397304
>>88397345
>>88397373
>Kamala is now Carla, a big-breasted Christian lesbian
Fund it.

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>>88397255
Having Kamala swear off trying to influence politics would be one thing

>>88397255
>Fame
Her second volume has always been doing worst than the first and that with twice the pushing and before CW2. Marvel just needs to stop shoving her down people's throats.

>>88397876
Peter's classmates essentially said this in the 60's.

>>88397467
Missed, Marvel!

>>88397582

This. Kamala was a great concept because she was a fangirl given the chance of a lifetime, even if it was in a shitty part of New Jersey and the original was a cute mix of street level Marvel comedy with a bit of seriousness. Pushing her to the top with no development just because of the "Progressive" boner killed the momentum of her character arc. Progressive for progressives sakes never works. It has to be convincing and worked for.

Hence the term, "Progression". Something comic writers seem to have forgotten about in favor of just blunt forcing everything.

Removing the Comics Code was a mistake. That at least forced writers to make progress and efforts to slip things past censors.

Waid writing her in Champions is horrific.

>>88397345
>>88397373
I vote for these

>>88398089

Except the "progressive" is the main reason why the characters fail. The very second you start thinking that more important than good writing is to push your moral values on people through your writing, you're a shitty writer and will always be a shitty writer until you start thinking otherwise.

Quality of the story and storytelling is always the number one thing a writer should strive for.

>>88397255
Better art. Drop the family cast entirely.

1. Quest for Bruno where she goes to Wakanda
2. no more bullshit with the Inhumans until Marvel figures out what to do with them
3. stop doing shitty crossovers with shitty writers

>>88397255
>Personally I blame Bendis hurting her book with CW2.
Correct.
>But how do we get Kamala back to her former glory?
Do some shorter arcs, build up her rogue's gallery.

>>88397255
>she's doing the Trump face
I don't get it, is this supposed to be a subtle jab at him without syaing it directly?

>>88398365
no she's just ugly

>>88398365
Impossible. This issue before Trump tried to got Republican nomination.

Does she have any books where the writers aren't trying to shove their political ideology down my throat? I just want to read some comics.

>>88398378
Her book is ugly. I will be honest here, I don't WANT to read about muslim characters, I like Kamala only outside her book, where only the fangirl aspect come into play, there is better art and we don't get to see her family.

>>88398314
>the decline happened when she barely interacts with the inhumans in any book
>sold better when the book had more Inhuman stuff like Lockjaw and Kaboom
>did worst when it was Carol in the avengers
I don't see how you blame the Inhumans for her recent troubles, she is the only Inhuman that never gets caught in the Inhuman hate.

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>>88398089
>Removing the Comics Code was a mistake
>DC removed it long after Marvel did
DC WAS RIGHT

>>88398199
>The very second you start thinking that more important than good writing is to push your moral values on people through your writing, you're a shitty writer and will always be a shitty writer until you start thinking otherwise.
Read a real book sometime.

Kamala isn't lewd enough

>>88398089
>Removing the Comics Code was a mistake
kys

>>88398322
This

>>88398089
>Removing the Comics Code was a mistake. That at least forced writers to make progress and efforts to slip things past censors.

Why are there so many retards on this website? What in god's fucking name could possibly lead you to the conclusion that the comics code lead to progress?

>>88397255
>How do we fix Ms Marvel?

Make Kamala LEAVE ISLAM.

MASSIVE GLOBAL PUBLICITY GUARANTEED.

>>88397255
>we trade
Money is too mainstream, let's go back to bartering.

>we read on our smartphones
???

Can someone explain why every generations kids do this "wow we're so different from those before us" shit?

>>88398714
>real books don't have literary quality, only political agendas
You know that the trick with shit like Animal Farm is that the book is actually a good book, right?
If you just want a message with no adequate medium, or you prioritize the message over the way you convey it, then you just want propaganda leaflets.
Kill yourself because you're part of the crowd that ruins art.

>>88398942
>you're part of the crowd that ruins art
Says the anon who judges art by its ideological content.
>>88398942
>shit like Animal Farm is that the book is actually a good book
More than a rightwinger would say otherwise.

>>88399103
>lol u are judging it by ideological content
A book can have whatever ideological content and still be good, you're the one saying that ideology matters more than the way it's presented you moron.

>waaah right winger
Orwell was a leftist you dumb fuck. In fact he spent a lot of his time criticizing "elitist leftism" and if you don't know he fought in the goddamn spanish civil war for the anarchists.
Get your strawman and go plant some corn.

>>88399151
>A book can have whatever ideological content and still be good
Especially if such content is the same as yours, hmm?
>Orwell was a leftist
You aren't, though. You're whining abut leftist messages in art.

>>88399151
>>88399103

a lot of his time criticizing "elitist leftism" instead defending that it return to its working class roots*

(that is against academic leftism)

He also ONE example of positive use of art to convey an idea.
The thing is, if you just wrap your ideas in pure unadultered shit no one will want them no matter how hard you push them.
Quality always comes over your own agendas.

>>88399199
>Quality
Too subjective a concept.

>>88399183
>you're whining about leftist messages in arts
I think you're confused, because not everyone in this thread is the same person. You should stop assuming whatever it is that you need to assume to paint me as your strawman and just realize this idea:

Quality > Ideology

>waaah but only if it agrees with you
When have I said that again?
Oh right, I haven't at all.

>BUT I NEED TO ASSUME
Strawman. Plant corn.

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>>88399244
>teabagger is so ashamed of his repulsive ideology that he pretends to be a different anon

>>88398714

>bad writing makes for a good book.

Are you really this retarded?

>>88399229
Of course it's subjective, but there are broader definitions for it. If you limit your base to "people who agree with me so much that they'll love my work for the ideas despite it being done in the most awful way possible" you'll reach a very small amount of people.

Honestly, there are tons of good works that have leftist or liberal ideas and present them in very very well done manner that reach out to loads of people. It really is as simple as that. How over what.

>>88397255
>How do we fix Ms Marvel?

You can't.
A controversy only keeps people's attention for so long.
Fewer people are interested in outrages buys or virtue signal buys of Ms Muslim anymore.

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>>88399277
>waaah teabags
I don't know anon, do you want me to list my political ideas so you can shut the fuck up about your strawman?

>inb4 I was just baiting and pretending to be retarded

More stories focusing on her cute bum

>>88399286
He seems to think that everyone who disagrees with him is some american ideological strawman, so yes.

>>88397255
Make her a fun, endearing girl who fights bad guys instead of the imaginary minority mouthpiece that social justice types use to justify their arguments.

So basically, get her away from Marvel.

>>88397255
>How do we fix Ms Marvel

Get rid of Kamala and never speak of that speed bump in the road again

We have a Captain Marvel movie coming, we don't need this blight out there when the movie hype comes

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>>88397255
Make her hook up with Scott Summers.

Solution to fix marvel

>ScottXKamalaXGwenpooleXLauraKinneyXJubilee as that awkward girl who showed up at casting couch with her friend and ended up getting fucked even though she didn't want to be in a porn cause she was too shy to say no but still made the dude wear a condom

>>88399368
This.

We have Carol showing up in the new Capcom vs Marvel game next year, we have a coming Captain Marvel movie

The public image of this "brand" is a strong white blond female, not some tiny ugly brown girl that panders to such a small audience that just downloads the comics for tumblr anyhow

Have Carol be both Ms Marvel and Captain Marvel, put down Kamala forever and give that brand a new injection of popularity going into the mainstream movie/video game stuff

>>88399312
>do you want me to list my political ideas
No, I don't need you to pretend you're more progressive than an army of Justin Trudeau clones.
>strawman
Or using buzzwords.

>>88399286
>never heard of Philip Dick

>>88398089
>Removing the Comics Code was a mistake. That at least forced writers to make progress and efforts to slip things past censors.

Your post started well but then it crashed on a ditch.

>>88399294
Thank you, /lit/. You're so useful.
>>88399462
Thank you, /v/. You're so butthurt.

>>88399484

What does he have anything to do with the fact you're seriously trying to say that bad writing makes for a good book?

>>88399522
>failing at reading comprehension
Why am I not surprised?

>>88398199
>The very second you start thinking that more important than good writing is to push your moral values on people through your writing, you're a shitty writer and will always be a shitty writer until you start thinking otherwise.
Yes, Who arr those creators thinking they are, using their creativity to express themselves?

>>88399535

Burch detected. That is exactly what you said, and Burch is a frequent liar.

Of course the quality of the story and the writing are more important than anything else in the book. And the original argument was that if you concentrate more on pushing agenda than telling a quality story, you're going to fail delivering both.

Quality always comes first.

>>88399484
>you don't need to pretend
Why would I?
If I were an EVIL RIGHTWINGER I'd be proud of saying so to your face.

Ideology isn't my criteria for judging a work of art but rather the way it was portrayed. Are the characters well written? Is the aesthetic of the work fitting? I mean, you can't actually believe that what matters most is that people show up with ideas that match your own.

You're basically saying that you care more about the ideas than the quality of the work while pretending that I am the one who cares about ideas. This is almost bizarre.

>>88399514
>this post
So you have nothing to back up your notion that ideology is more important than quality of the work.
>but I need my own imaginary devils to craft an argument!

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>>88397255
As a millennial where is this magical place where we can trade for things instead of buying them

I would love to not spend money

>>88399553
They're free to express themselves, but if they don't give a shit about making the way they do so actually good then they shouldn't be mad when no one gives a crap about their work.

>>88397255
I'm not even conservative and even I think this is obnoxious.

>>88399589
Craigslist? I'm not sure either.

>>88399610

This. And "progressives" usually dont give a shit, because pushing agenda is more important to them than learning how to write and tell a proper story.

Best joke in the world will sound shitty if the guy telling the joke dont know how to tell it well.

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>>88399565
>What I like always comes first.
Fixed.

>>88399585
<--

>>88397255
The first step is to kill that artist and only allow artists who make Kamala qt waifu level.

>>88397255
I've only read the 1st issue of ms marvel and champions. She seems adorable. But it's too late to get into it now it seems

>>88397994
>lesbian
Just remove this.

>>88399661
>"progressives"
So they're conservatives like you?

>>88399669
>tfw anon doesn't have any arguments
Yep, this actually got comfy now.

Umad tho?

>>88399661
Well the same applies to the right. The thing is, the further down their own ass someone is the harder it becomes for them to understand that their opinions aren't just "so good anyone will like them" despite their lack of effort into trasmitting them in a good way.

Horseshoe is real.

>>88399683
What are you a fag

>>88397255
she's a one-hit wonder
like Dazzler
get over it

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>>88399712

>Well the same applies to the right.

Of course it does. Never claimed different. Modern Marvel SJW shit is on the same level of shit as older stories like Batman fighting that evil punk music.

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>>88399688
Not him but I see a lot of backwards thinking among some 'progressives' that I would expect from a religious conservative so he might be referring to that.
Or he could just be mocking the name.

>>88399783
I honestly think some writers confuse their work with themselves when they should be very distinct entities.

>>88397994
Someone get a drawfag on this

>>88399783
Isn't there a page somewhere of Bruce and Dick talking about enjoying The Clash to Alfred's lament?

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>>88399669

>Anthony Burch is a good writer.

>>88397255

>Literally cucked by the Great Lakes Avengers

Is there anything those cretins can't ruin?

>>88399728
If she's lesbian, we're back on le diversity thing like before.

>>88399802
>I see a lot of backwards thinking among some 'progressives'
So he IS a teabagger playing the literate. Oh well, it's USA.

>>88399903
>it's USA
Honest question, do you think everyone here is american?
And no, my friend, that guy isn't me (the one you called teabagger).

>but muh america
Não fode seu gringo chato do cacete.

>>88399935
>a favelado
lol

>>88399960
>hey guys you're so rightwing, I hate you for being rightwing!

>let me insult your for being a third worlder

Thanks for admitting you're just a master baiter.

And
>2016
>not living in a favela outside of a megacity making runs for shady companies

>>88399935

He's Anthony Burch, why do you keep responding to him? The guy is a retarded cuck.

>>88399988
>admits he's a third worlder
Good boy.

>>88397467
>Stop involving her in shitty events.

Easily /thread

>>88400002
>The guy is a retarded cuck.
Says the /v/fag.

>>88400002
I have nothing better to do other than being shot at by cops, being shot by drug dealers, being shot by my own family, being shot by football hooligans or being shot at by a wandering vigilante.

>>88400033
You don't deserve the dubs, give them back.

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>>88399892
Years ago /co/ would have jumped at the idea of qt brown lesbian

What is this shit

>>88399831

The very second Bendis started thinking "how do I insert more minorities in Marvel stories" instead of "how do I make a good superhero story", he stopped being a writer and became a hack.

Well, that and the fact he doesnt write stories, he writes shocking twists and "who dies next"-level of shit.

>>88399589
>>88399643

Too lazy to google search but its a website where basicly people put up shit they no longer need and you can borrow or take it off them for free. The basic idea being to reduce waste and save money by not buying shit you may only use once.

I saw the website on a news clip years ago and it was mostly popular in Europe.

>>88397255
>How do we fix Ms Marvel?
Make it more lewd


Make it more erotic
>Personally I blame Bendis hurting her book with CW2.
Why? Why Not blame Marvel for wanting another event, why not blame Marvel for possibly forcing this event on Bendis, why not blame the writers of her comics for the things that happened in her comic during CW2?

>>88397255
I stopped reading once they started pushing her into teams of adult superheroes who have years of experience. Those teams then became the focus of her stories rather than the small, tight stories that characterized her first run.

Her popularity was due to the limited scope of her stories. She was a naive, inexperienced newcomer who was just starting out, and her bubbly personality made her fun to watch grow.

Then, BAM. She's a fucking SPACEFARING AVENGER. Kind of hard to retain the 'I'm just a girl from New Jersey trying to make my town a better place' when she's fighting aliens on other worlds. No growth, no slow transition from 'small time street hero who was stopped by a dumb street punk with a gun'. Just, one second she was a rookie small time hero the next she was a fucking Avenger.
They need to return to her roots and let her have her own stories with her original writer ONLY rather than shoving her into every other fucking thing in Marvel. Otherwise her power level, personal development and personality isn't established enough to be consistent.

>>88400066
Is he the M. Night of comics?

>>88400119
But every popular hero has to be involved in big epic stories, with crossovers and mega events.

Otherwise how would you know that they're a big deal?

Rape her.
Kill her.
Burn her comics.
Kill the bitch that make her.

>>88400247
>Kill the bitch that make her.
Drumpf will make sure she leaves the country forever.

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>>88400120
More like...

>>88400065
/pol/ took over.

Seriously, you can't even enjoy a waifu thread anymore without some anon throwing a hissy fit over all the waifus posted not being staunchly-conservative, white, anglo-saxon protestants whom are fully clothed.

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Renounces Islam
Gets Baptized in the blood of Christ
Fights for America against Jihad
Sales go through the roof

>>88400286
>/pol/ took over.

It's more because the diversity become too ordinary in comics.

>>88400260
But she's white

>>88400399
Not from Drumpf's point of view: you're not Christian, you're colored.

>>88400365
>Renounces Islam

Just this could be a nice idea for the character development.
(Staying in a old minded religion like Islam is a weird thing when you're leaving in the Marvel universe)

>>88400065
Korra betrayed us all.

She was everything we wanted out of a waifu, and yet it only sped up her series' slide downhill and was used as a shield for actual criticism. We're not gonna fall for that trick again!

>>88400456
But his daughter, son-in-law and grandchildren are Jewish

>>88397255
I think that's because people care less about Marvel as a whole, than her comic being bad.

>>88397255

>That whole speech

...Isn't she a muslim? Because that speech could get pretty nasty if she aimed it at something like the Quran.

>>88397255
I thought people hated Millenials because they're narrow-minded, self-entitled crybullies.

>>88400458
And hating on mutants is a weird thing in the Marvel universe

What about it?

>>88399368
But carol is fucking worse and will always be worse. I'd rather have every single diversity Ms. Marvel than the one we have now. You have to be a new fag to think otherwise.

>>88400531
Don't people say the same thing about baby boomers?

>>88400532
I think hating on mutants is pretty normal actually

>>88400552
Take a shower, hit the weights, get a clue

>>88400532
>>88400563
Yeah, mutants are dicks.

>>88400532
Was more talking about Aliens and shit. And there is Asgardian and Greek gods. If Allah was real, he would have shown his ass to the world like Thor or Ares did.

>>88400525
She is part of the western generation of muslims who are "muslim." Like how christianity is to many

>>88400613
So would the Christian God and Jehovah, and Doom would probably go back in time and bring back Jesus with him to find a way to rule the world.

But I'm not seeing any of that, yet here we are with characters like Nightcrawler who is Christian and has been to hell and back.

So where is God in Marvel? Why hasn't he showed himself?

>>88400525
Isn't that the whole point of her character? Being a shameless hypocrite?

>>88400396
So what you're saying is that we're all hipsters?

>>88400562
In that case, it's true, loathed by their parents and children alike.

>>88398907

> go back to bartering.

There is absolutely no historical record of barter economy.
Be quiet before you embarrass yourself any further.

>>88400675
>So where is God in Marvel? Why hasn't he showed himself?
A thought his essence was split into rocks so they could put him in fighting games

>>88400710
We're a thing that has no name yet. More avan-gardist than Hipsters.

>>88400721
Well there you have it then. God, Jehovah and Allah are all infinity stones

>>88400476
>Jewish
Well, so was Hitler.

>>88400720

To qualify my own statement.

No record, no evidence, nothing an archaeologist or anthropologist could extrapolate to lead to the conclusion of a barter economy.

It never happened for the same reasons economists and uneducated dipshits summarize we switched to currency.

Because a barter based economy would be incredibly inconvenient.

Even people groups still living in the stone age don't have a barter economy.

Generally they function under the idea of a communal storehouse or you know - you just give the guy what he needs and he owes you a favor somewhere down the line.

>>88400720
What?
>tfw The existence of places and times where bartering was widespread/common/more relevant than monetary exchange for goods is being questioned by anon without providing a single source

How about you faggots actually pay for your comics for once?

>>88398089
>Removing the Comics Code was a mistake

You deserve to have your fingers chopped off and then have them sent to your family with pieces of your browsing history written on them

>>88400820
Places with monetary systems can still have most of their trade function based on bartering.

>but
Mate, you do know that indigenous tribes trade goods with other tribes, for other goods, right?

>>88397332
>>88400458
What if they made Kamala a Kemalist?

She's not actually muslim so muslims don't like her
She turned into a sjw so normal readers dont like her
And sjws dont buy comics
Who is she supposed to appeal too

>>88400820
". The Brazilians the Pirahãs most often see have boats, and they just come up the Pirahãs' river to buy Brazil nuts. In exchange, they bring machetes, gunpowder, powdered milk, sugar, whiskey and so forth. The Pirahãs are usually interested in acquiring these things. They don't accumulate Western goods, but if you've got consumables, the Pirahã might buy, say, two pounds of sugar, pour it in a bowl and eat it all at once. They're not going to put it on the shelf and save it; they'll just eat it when they get it."
https://www.edge.org/conversation/recursion-and-human-thought

Here is an example of barter being used in a more primitive setting. Fun fact: this was done in a similar manner as far back as the 16th century.

>>88400894
>Kemalist

Get back to Turkey.

>>88397255
Bendis strikes again.

>>88400970
I can't, it's a dictatorship now.

>>88400891

If we're talking specifically about South american tribes
Trading generally happens between tribes not within.

Generally its ceremonial, they fuck each others wives.
Its also a fairly tense situation in which both expect violence from the other,

Their entire economy isn't based on that.

Don't fuck with me on this man. I know my shit

>>88400993
>their entire economy isn't based on that
True, but then again there isn't an exchange within the tribe (as you said with the collectivist attitude you pointed out earlier) so you can say there isn't an economy to begin with.

>>88400993
>they fuck each others wives
BRING BACK BARTERING!
>Don't fuck with me on this man. I know my shit
Anthropology student?

>>88400839
>paying for Marvel comics
It's almost like you want them to succeed.

>>88398130
He's turned her into a pretentious agit-prop mouthpiece.

>>88401039

>Anthropology student

Highschool dropout actually.
I just have an interest in anthropology and read a lot.

>>88398800
> Needs more bondage

> Needs more Carol pounding Kamala with her Custom Kree Cosmic Strap-On.

>>88400989
Kek

>>88400839
It seems complaining about comics help more than actually buying them. At least that's the only reasonable explanation I can find for Marvel not imploding after all this shit.

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>>88401096
>Highschool dropout

>>88401096
I have an interest in highschool dropouts and I get a lot of sex.


which I barter for at the local indian brothel

So can the Kamala is popular meme die now? That would be cool.

>>88400980
Bendis ruins everything he touches.

>>88397373
This, everyone loves lesbians. And it would be great publicity.

>>88397255
Could they have given her a more suitably obnoxious expression in the second panel?

>>88400456
>Drumpf

Fuck off

>>88397255
>The media hates us

Wut? The media is left as fuck.

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Kamala's just another victim of a larger problem that must be excised.

>Ms Marvel pin up special
>30 pages of cute girl doing cute things!
>No sexual, instead of lusting after Kamala, you love Kamala!
CUTE!

>>88400839
I've bought two of Kamala's trades
Floppies are for jerks!

>>88402024
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

>>88402073
He can and he will sadly.

>Ms Marvel #13 23,621
Damn she's actually close to cancellation numbers

>>88397537
Very astute.

>>88400065
People don't just change their minds about stuff like that. We are a dying breed, my friend.

>>88397424
>>88397467
Shame Wilson didn't put her foot down.

>>88398402
perhaps trump copied her?

>>88398902
Bonus points: Use the genuine reaction from actual muslims in the book.

Double bonus. Terrigan gas and mutations become defined as apostasy by decree of key muslim scholars.

>really expanded my reader base

>>88397255
Do some edgy stuff with her religion.

>>88397405

Actually, the one she was rallying for did win in her comic.

>>88401794
>everyone loves lesbians
Tell that to Korra cause lots of people didnt get your opinion proclaimed as fact note.

>>88404097
Only /co/, because /co/ is retarded like that.

>>88397255
Wow, the pandering is real.

>>88397405
>It would've helped if she didn't rally her fellow minorities and poor people to vote for the in-universe equivilent of Hilarry
But she didn't. Are you fucking retarded? Does any random woman = Hillary now? She was some third candidate. The story even had a whole bit about how the election between the two guys was like choosing between two shitty options. It was such a blatant reference to the current election I can't believe you didn't latch on to that.

>>88404097
The ending is the only reason anyone praises that fucking thing despite it being a whole bunch of stupid shit.

>>88400905
Pretty much this

>>88404097
The media says otherwise.

If Marvel played their cards right, Kamala the Muslim Lesbian could be huge publicity and increase her comic sales

I miss fun Kamala who was just happy learning to be a hero.

>>88404238
The only lesbian pandering I want to see out of Marvel is Carol and Jess. At least that dynamic I can get behind

>>88404307
Is it possible to have lesbianism without it being pandering?

>>88404454
Well I guess you could justify Carol/Jess given their long standing friendship and chemistry. Hell it makes more sense than Iceman magically becoming gay thanks to Jean

>>88397255
I'm gonna take a cracked at why Ms. Marvel drop from the top 100.

CIVIL WAR 2

>>88404511
>Hell it makes more sense than Iceman magically becoming gay thanks to Jean

She was that bad huh?

>>88404269
Yeah, she was better off as a low level hero still learning the ropes.

Putting her on the Avengers was a HUGE mistake and lead her down the path to shitty events and team.

>>88401999
Nah the media still hates millenials, which is what she's talking about

>>88404617
Its the Spider Man dilemma, where hes more interesting by himself as a street level hero than on a team

>>88404758
>Eagle
Should have been a wall

>>88397467

>Burka on Statue of Liberty

>>88398089
Well she did get progressively worse.

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>>88404798
Or even better

>>88397255
Delete her. She sucks.

>>88404673
Hasn't the media always complained about the kids these days?

I haven't read her books and the only time I've seen her is Civil War II and Champions. I know it's probably not the best way to know who she is.

So are there any stories where she gets really over her head? Where she's way out of her league against a villain?

>We are the generation that's going to change the world!

Maybe for once we should be the generation that made sure the world stays this way.

>>88397405
The issue was really, really blatantly in support of Jill Stein, and advocated voting for third parties in order to circumvent the obvious problems people have with the two party system, ie "both candidates suck so I'm not gonna vote".

>>88405864
That's great, the alternative was Gary "A Leppo" Johnson and Jill "No Refunds" Stein.

>>88406475
>>88405864

that sounds like was more of a "don't alienate the big parties members" than anything

>>88400839
Tell you what; Marvel produces something worth $5.99 & I'm in again. 'Til then, I'm out.

>>88398413
>racist trump fag needing a safespace.

Yawn.

60s comics are probably downloadable somewhere, although few cape comics where about the superiority of white beta males even then.

>>88399417
>literally every Cyclops fan makes this same type of post literally every day

You guys need to get laid...badly.

>Bring Alphona back as the main artist, not just for a few uninteresting pages
>KEEP HER OUT OF EVENTS AND TEAMS
>Develop a rogues gallery, remember those?
>Make her sidecast develop further, give me more Mike, less Miles.

>>88408555
Such wasted digits on such a shitty post

>>88405655
But the world is absolute shit

>>88404097
That wasn't because Korra turned out to be bi, it was because the person she turned out to be bi with is so unfathomably uninteresting that it made for the most underwhelming finale ever to anyone but thirsty mouthbreathers and tumblr.

>>88408869
It's the truth anon, as I'm sure you well know.

You guys are pretty consistent about it too.

>>88397345
>Kamala accidentally making her own breasts bigger out of jealousy

>>88408890
Only because some revolutionary asshole always changes it for the "better". There is a sickness in mankind that can't be remedied.

I have the first series hardcover but this event shit has destroyed everything and there's no way I'm buying future releases.

Needs a reboot that starts off from the same point after volume 1 but pretends none of the current run ever happened. Kamala will also need a special clause that gives her future event immunity.

Fuck I am so butthurt over this. I hope she makes it into MvCI so I can practice combos all day on Carol. Bitch ruined everything

>>88399589
It's called prostitution

>>88397467
>mfw it is an old white cuck sharing the "brown" perspective

>>88409031
> Villain controls her powers.

> Makes her tits and ass huge.

>>88403087
>Shame Wilson didn't put her foot down.
More likely Marvel wouldn't let her since she's under contract.

>>88405453
Her first year's worth of issues where she pretty much got her ass kicked by a bird-headed clone of Thomas Edison.

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>>88397994
Drawfags, make it happen.

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Stop putting her in fuck awful events

>>88397255
More villains, and not just swiping them from other characters/books. We need more NEW blood like The Inventor and whoever she's gonna be facing in the "online troll" arc (s/he better not just be some greasy nerd in a basement that's cyber-stalking Kamala).

>>88399484
If you're implying Philip K Dick is a bad writer, the world has an urgent mission for you involving your head and a gas oven.

>>88397255

She NEEDS a pinnacle arch rival. Someone who can get real personal with her. All the foes and enemies she faces aren't personal. They don't really illicit intense emotions from her.

The solution is for there to be a new inhuman, mainly one that's also of pakistani origin to be her arch villain. It has to be someone with intense muslim values. Someone that sympathizes with Isis and absolutely hates the fact that Kamala does not practice Islam as much as he does. His values clashing with Kamala's would make for an intriguing story.

>>88398693
DC is the Cyclops of companies.

>>88411903
They wouldn't dare do this because #notallmuslims despite the fact that the majority are fucking crazy.

>>88411903
They already did that with Kamran. Just substitute "Muslim" with "Inhuman".

>>88412014
For some reason I read that as "fucking lazy"