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Kal-El vs Sun Wukong

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What if Saiyans existed in the DC Universe?
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I don't think Goku's simple-mindedness would work anywhere other than the DB universe.

He would come to help whenever something comes along that threatens Earth, but if he actually had the interest or the mind to fight crime and general wrongdoing rather than only thwarting planet-busters and fighting just for the sake of fighting, he would have formed his own Justice League in his own universe.
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>>88394648
And if Goku was taken out of the picture, the Saiyans would just be an antagonistic warrior race the heroes would fight.
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>>88394648
His presence would inspire the creation of a World's Martial Arts tournament for metahumans, which would become increasingly important in the scene.
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>>88394534
Shot one with a laser one, knock the other with kryptonite gas.

Problem solved
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Darkseid would subjugate them and make them his elite shock troopers. They said answer would mostly go with it, since they like the violence.

Goku ends up fighting Darkseid as SS BLUE. Eventually the New God's interfere. Because the fight between them would put all of creation at threat.
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>>88394534
Aren't they the same person but in different universes?
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>>88394534

>spoiler

daximites
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>>88394844
Are they literal cave people who only value beating people up?
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>>88394792
>Darkseid is Frieza but competent
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>>88394534
I never really got this argument. Isn't Superman's threshold for actually taking damage stupid high if magic and/or ki aren't involved? Goku can take punishment, but he's still in plenty of danger in those fights. Plus one can survive in space. That's an advantage frieza, of all people, had over him.

I do like this >>88394694
idea though.
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>>88394648
There was a lot of characters with Goku mentality in the 80's in cape comics.
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>>88395024
Bitch please, has Darky ever conquered anything outside of his native area? The cold one has does is all the time, the only problem were the damn monkeys...
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>>88394982
They're a lost tribe of Kryptonians. Same powers, weak to lead instead of Kryptonite. Very dangerous.
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>>88395118
I was about to say that Darkseid is still technically undefeated and didn't have his shit pushed in but isn't he a baby now?
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You have to be pure of heart to ride a nimbus.

There is NO FUCKING WAY Superman could ride it.

>but
no
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>>88395282
Yeah he can. Superman is absolutely pure of heart.
I don't know what you're trying to prove with that. Goku kills people all the time.
>But
Whatever
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>>88395282
I hate how now all it takes is one person posting a page out of context and a bunch of other people will do the same ad infinitude propagating this weird wave of shitty comicbook bait. That page isn't canon anymore, anon, no more than Superman marrying his jailbait cousin or Supergirl's bestiality-bait horse. Stop being so fucking autistic.
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>>88395202
Yes. And he's being raised to be good IIRC.

But the person doing the raising is his murderous psychopathic Raven clone daughter.
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>>88395393
>Goku kills people all the time.
Accidentally and only in Dragon Ball except for Buu who to be fair instantly reincarnated, some guy who it's more like he made kill himself, Frieza who should have already been dead, and a soulless sentient weapon.
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>>88395423
>That page isn't canon anymore
I thought everything was canon now.
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>>88395680
that's silver age bullshit, silver age hasn't been canon for a good while.
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>>88395653
He let every single being on Earth die because he felt that is five year old son and his friend should have a turn at fighting an evil demon from the dawn of time during the Buu saga.

I think Superman has the moral high ground.
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>>88395058
>if magic and/or ki aren't involved?
Magic and/or ki is effectively ALWAYS involved in Dragonball. Everyone's either a ki-powered martial artist (or a ki-powered robot/cyborg) or some kind of sorceror.
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>>88395719
>silver age
It's post CoIE. It's modern age.
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>>88395282
Do you have any idea how many bad guys Goku has executed?

That doesn't disqualify you in the least.
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>>88395680
In terms of post crisis continuity it was retconned by infinite crisis according to Superman # 666. Where demons in hell informed Superman that despite the fact he no longer remembered it they still counted it.
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This looks like it might possibly be a /co/ku thread.
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>>88395024
>Darkseid
>More competent than pre-revival frieza
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>>88395816
>Do you have any idea how many bad guys Goku has executed?
Literally zero
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>>88395183
Very racist too.
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I've always kinda wanted to see a fight between Frieza and Supes.

If Frieza trained for a full year he could probably get a new form along with God ki and fuck everyone in the universe up.
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>>88395924

He attempted to execute freeza, it just didn't stick.
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>>88395849
Freiza was competent?

He lost the first real fight he ever had.
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>>88396086
It's almost like he was born extremely talented and powerful or something.

That isn't incompetence, just arrogance.
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So, Great Saiyaman, IMMEDIATELY after the Buu saga. Would he get an invite to the Justice League? Or would he be a better fit in the Teen Titans?
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>>88395834
Nothing is ever a /co/ku thread.
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>>88394982
Kakarot's mom is a total milf.
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>>88394792
>>88395118
>>88395202
>>88395528

>Darkseid

No.

This isn't his style.

Mongul on the other side would like to subjugate them.
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>>88395202
>>88395528
>stealing plot lines from adventure time of all things

Might as well give him to Marvel and have Bendis write him.
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>>88396112
They go hand in hand my friend
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>>88396486
Yeah that sounds about right.
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>>88396518
The more things change anon.

I look forward to 8 years from now people will start shitting on DC and act like Marvel was the best all along.
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>>88394534
Probably the same thing that happened to them in DB. A stronger space fairing race will conquer them and then use them as soldiers, or just eradicate them. A saiyan with a scarab would be horrifying. Or a Red Lantern Ring. I wonder if they could reproduce with Tamaranians or Kryptonians? I don't know about the Trogs, but the Kryptonians are sometimes genetically compatible with humans.
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>>88394534
Sun Wukong is not Son Goku. Just the inspiration.
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>>88396461
All saiyans are for sexual.
Mostly because of the same face thing
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>>88396461
>>88396917
>We will never have a canon series that focuses on the adventures of a female Saiyan
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>>88394694

Wonder Woman wanted to create sort of an Olympics for meta humans.

That could be an event.

I would love Goku vs Lobo aside from that.

I can see mutual respect there after an epic fight. Goku doesn't judge, he can be friends with an asshole and Lobo will dig a guy with Goku's sense of honor and thirst for fighting. They'd probably meet regularly to kick the shit out of each other and then gorge and have drinks.
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>>88397045
Now that I think about it, what would Diana think of Goku? He's probably one of the few men she's ever met that's interested in neither sex or romance.
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>>88397045
Man, if Goku had been around when she was getting that off the ground, it would have happened. No one can get people wanting to fight like Goku.
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>>88395653

>accidently

He killed Yakon and kid buu outright.

Fuck off.
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>>88397102
They would be instantly compatible. Goku would want to move to Themyscara for a long time to train and spar. Chichi might surprisingly agree, only to seek her own training to later challenge Diana herself.
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>>88397218
That's only because Chichi would get jealous that Goku is spending time with women younger than her.
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>>88397102

She would have a deep respect for Goku, but definitely not based on his wisdom.

She would respect his discipline, his gentleness as seen with his family and his love for this planet.

She might take issue with his table manners but the fact that he would constantly seek to spar with Diana would make them very tight. He is the best loser, he actually compliments people on how well they kick his ass.
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>>88395924
He killed almost everyone in the red ribbon army.
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>>88397218

While Diana would definitely hold Holy with great esteem, I doubt he would get an invitation to the island.

He is too crass, he embodies everything the amazons think of man to justify their superiority except the aggressiveness. He is an uneducated man who loves nothing more than to get into fights and fill his stomach, while honourable, he doesn't meet the standards.
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>>88397257
Fairly certain everyone in the JL would like Goku.

He's probably one of the most charismatic characters ever created.
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>>88395790
Not everyone.
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>>88397324
It's not like Goku would really give a shit what they would think of him either.

And to be fair, the Amazons as a whole are a lot more aggressive than any of the Z Fighters are. Except for Vegeta.
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>>88395994
Sounds like a fun Phantom Zone buddy for Doomsday.
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>>88395058
When powered up ki is a good defense, but when powered down he's just more resilient than a human.
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>>88396263
The latter clearly. He'd only get contacted by the league if demonstrated what he's really capable of publicly.
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>that time when Goku kills his own family
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>>88397354
I'm pretty sure he fits under ki powered robot/cyborg, anon.
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>>88396917
Pity they have such low sex drives.
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>>88397413
>Justice League VS Goku Black and Zamasu
fuuuuck
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>>88397338
Batman would hate him because he doesn't take anything seriously. The whole "let the enemy power up to get a real fight" would drive Bruce insane.
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>>88397243
Which is enough motivation for her. She would quickly approach Krillin's strength, then get some sort of mystical weapon or armor with a Chinese theme to make up the difference.
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>>88397257
it's ironic because chichi, bulma and 18 would probably think all the amazons are bitches
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>>88397454
Batman would probably like Gohan.
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>>88395975
White Triangle is just a loud fringe minority.
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>>88397372

The amazons are hypocrites.

>>88397338

Goku is the kind of guy you call when shit hits the fan.

You don't call him to nip things in the bud, he isn't surgical or measured and like stated before, he'd let things escalate for his own amusement.
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>>88397324
In that case, he might just have to almost set foot there once in a while, always in sight of someone so that the royal guard have to show up. Maybe even quite often.
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Why are these Cyborgs called Androids?
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>>88397421
Nope. No ki in him. Force fields. Only one of his kind from Earth.
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>>88397539

If some kind of fruit that is found nowhere else grows there and Holy likes that shit, it's going to be s regular thing with him trespassing then giggling while flies away and the arrows try to reach him. Diana might a bit irked.
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>>88397432
Wonder Woman would stomp their shit with extreme prejudice. Gods behaving badly piss her off. Also, the god damned Superman, Flash, etc.
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>>88397560
Probably because Toriyama confused the terms. Alternatively I've seen it suggested that Gero continued with the android moniker because of his earlier creations. Essentially event ho they are cyborgs they are 17 and 18 in the "android line".
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>>88397560
In Japanese they use word that describes them as basically artificial humans. At the time translators flipped the coin and lost, but these days it just stuck to them because Androids sounds cooler than Cyborgs for some reason.
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>>88397584

*Goku likes that shit
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>>88397502
Batman would turn futureverse Gohan into the most dangerous person to ever live, even if he ended up much weaker.
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>>88397599
If they did that stupid shit where they consume the universe I doubt any of the League could do anything without a Deus Ex Machina.
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>>88397599
Isn't Diana a mortal woman who was raised by the amazons?
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>>88397664
It's easier to list things she wasn't every time they re-imagined her origin.
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>>88397641
Lucky they keep several of those lying around at all times.
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>>88397664
Wat
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>>88397664

Nope.

She is a demigod, daughter of Zeus and Hyppolita, raised by amazons.

I preferred her clay origin myself.
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>>88397608
I dunno, even Android 8 seems more like a Frankensteinian monster, which implies biological elements. As far as I know, he's the earliest one we see, at the very least.
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>DC, marvel, dragonball, gurren lagann and one punch man all taking place in the same universe

Imagine what a clusterfuck that would be.
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>>88397759
Well that theory was introduced to me via TeamFourStar, I don't know if they came up with it or if it was a pre-existing one, so it is probably doesn't hold much weight.
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>>88394982
>Aaaw shit I never thought about writing these things... Better fill in these gaps over a decade later.
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>>88397324
>the amazons meet the namekians
>get extremely bitter about the fact that a species with all masculine appearances that are relatively peaceful exist
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>>88394534
They kinda do
The Kree are basically saiyans that haven't been completely wiped out
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>>88394534
Why is no one talking about this?

http://plus.shonenjump.com/rensai_detail.html?item_cd=SHSA_JP02PLUS00005918_57

Japanese teen reincarnates into Yamcha and tries not to be just a jobber.

>by fucking Shonen Jump
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>>88397916
What is the title?
That sounds like an actually good "reincarnated into fantasy land" premise.
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>>88397916
I like Yamcha, so I'm a bit curious. Sounds interesting.
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>>88397916

English translation: http://imgur.com/a/b3WlL
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>>88397916
>SJ is publishing literal fucking fanfiction
What a world eh?
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>>88394840
Goku has a much higher body count I think.
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>>88397829
Sounds like Concrete Revolutio to me. It is a good show.
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>>88397984
>>88397998
Its fun.

SS is doing a crossover with furry Hanah Barbera characters, and it looks amazing too.
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>>88394840
>Aren't they the same person but in different universes?
wat?
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>>88394534
They do. They're just called Kryptonians. The tails were bred out eventually.
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>>88395924
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>>88398048

The point is how much he can change things and still let others power up to face the next challenges?
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>>88397608
>Probably because Toriyama confused the terms

Toriyama never called them androids or cyborgs. In Japanese they're Artificial Humans
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I do not want to be in the timezone when Vegeta meets Black Adam or Guy Gardner.
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>>88398067
>grandpa gohan included in the kill pile

Damn...Does Goku ever try to visit either of his dads or mom?
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>>88398048
Apples and oranges friendo.

There's a difference from so bad it's fun, to just plain shit
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>>88397264
Yeah, but not intentionally.
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>>88398118
Ahh so it is a dub issue.
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>>88396703
>Red Lantern Vegeta, Scarab Nappa and Hero Dial Raditz
What changes ?
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>>88398252
my underpants
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>>88398132
Goku doesn't care about any of his family
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>>88397984
I'm getting real tired of the
>TL note: Tenkaichi Boudokai means World Martial Arts tournament in the Funimation dub
JUST FUCKING SAY WORLD MARTIAL ARTS TOURNAMENT
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>>88398034
Too bad the only people who like it just want to build a wiki of all the anime references in it.
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>>88398287
the original nihongo tango are too tokubetsu to properly yakuseru
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>>88397878
They have no dicks and lay eggs out of their mouths. They are genderless and classist, but biologically closest to female.
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>>88398348

Mind their pronouns, human.

They all refer to each other as he, so they're dudes.
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>>88397998
Not all fanfiction is bad. Being published means it goes through an editorial process, too.
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>>88397878
>Demon King Piccolo vs Queen Hippoloyta
No mafuba required for his shit to get kicked in
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>>88397900
Isn't Kree Marvel?
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>>88398094
If he doesn't break it off with Bulma, he could fuck them all pretty bad. Still, rich Baseball star with super powers helping save the world. Not bad.
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>>88394982
Why haven't we ever seen any of the saiyans in hell or something
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>>88398464
Not evil enough to be tortured in hell, not heroic enough to keep their bodies in heaven.
They're all the little cloud ghosts
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>>88398259
To be fair Radditz soured him on his saiyan family
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>>88398369
That's a concession to the structure of human languages. Their pronouns probably involve their tribal roles, since they effect their biology enough to change their abilities.
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>>88398348
>they have obvious male appearances
>b-but they're genderless and closer to being female
You're an idiot. The gems from Steven universe are women regardless of what excuse you pull out to say that they aren't actually women when they obviously are. Same thing goes with the Namekians. They call each other he and him they're obviously men.

It's a fictional series full of space aliens and mystical wish-granting dragons anyways. The concept of an asexual all-male species is not that implausible given the context of everything else in the series.
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>>88398252
>Red Lantern Vegeta
Not a good fit. He seems like a natural pick for the Indigo Tribe, since there's no lantern corps for pride.
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>>88398544

Yeah, so let's stick to the ones they used to refer to each other: you, he, him.

So namekians consider themselves male and we don't need headcannon confusing things.
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>>88398541
Bro, they really need to introduce Gine into Super. Make her fully canon damn you.
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>>88394982
>He looks just like you, especially that unique hairdo
>..........
>I'll go steal a space pod at night, we're gonna launch him to a different planet.
LMFAO. I know the context but that is so funny.
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>>88398553
They also lay eggs, sometimes with consciously selected genetic mutations. They aren't either, though.
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>>88398621
???
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>>88398594
If you aren't gonna try, I'm not playing.
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>>88398348
You realize that calling them female is in itself due to a construction of human language, right?
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>>88398094
Someone make a thread and storytime this.
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>>88398655
>they aren't either
I'll tell King Piccolo that right away.
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>>88395118
Yes. Entire Universes.
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>>88398672
I just thought it was funny that she's talking about how Goku looks like Bardock and then Bardock's all "LET'S SEND HIM TO ANOTHER PLANET"
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>>88394534
How would the Viltrumites from Image Comics universe fare against Saiyans or Kryptionans? They are inspired by them, by the way.
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>>88398605
I don't it but at this point who knows, Super bassicaly doing whatever the fuck it wants at this point
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>>88398777
They'd get their asses handed to them Vutrinires at peak performance can blow up a planet, superman can fly near lightspeec, has super senses and shoots Lasers out of his eyes, And saiyans are capable of going toe to toe with gods
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>>88398777

Viltrumites have way too many weaknesses.

Czarnians are more formidable, not to mention saiyans and kryptonians.

They would have culled each other into having superpowers and once they decided to expand, they'd be assfucked
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>>88398287
>English translation of Japanese DB content

>Kuririn
>Vegetto
>Kakkarotto
>Gokuh
>Use of Japanese honorifics as opposed to English ones
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>>88398399
>Not all fanfiction is bad
t.fanfiction writer
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>>88397432
Superman punches him in the face and every Zamasu in existance will feel it.
Flash freese him in time.

>>88397878
This woud be gold.
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>>88398905
>mirrored to read left-to-right
><un-trans>
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>>88398777
They would breed with both. In a few generations, you'd have a Saiyan throwback with Kryptonian DNA running around questing for magical artifacts and impregnating absolutely everyone.
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>>88394534
They would be standard Lantern villains at best.

And would fit along all the other super powerful species of aliens in the DCU. And not even at the top either.

Daxamites and Martians are above them, Durlans way above them,
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>>88398905
Nothing is worse than a weeb who learned a language just to lord it over people. Wait, no that's wrong. Nothing is worse than a weeb who learned a language to lord it over people who then goes into translating.
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So apparently the "Vegeta was stolen from another race" backstory is considered canon now?

I never really liked that backstory and I always thought it was questionable, why would a species so hardwired for violence ever have a society advanced enough to develop space travel? Hell, the official explaination now is that they actually fought so much, it destroyed their planet! The only way it makes sense to me is if Freeza had already enslaved them at that point.
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>>88399071
Dunno where you're getting that garbage. Super starts with a recap, showing Bardock failing to stop Freiza from destroying planet Vegeta. Beerus references it later.
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>>88399071
what kind of drugs are you on?

Do you just "invent" random facts that are not true in order to get people talking?
Do you really think this is a way to get discussion going? Just saying random shit?
Let me try

"Man I really hate how Goku is now officially half robot, I already thought it was weird when they officially claimed he was half monkey but half robot too? Jeez."
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>>88398048
>Artwork has captured Toriyama's style down to a tee
This is awesome, I can't until they explain how NuYamcha trained
>No new chapter until 2017

Son of a bitch
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>>88395924
Killing demons that turn out to be aliens later count.
Also he blew up a few Red Ribbon buildings.
And killed Buu.
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>>88399049
Fucking This!

Why don't these faux TLs realise that "Translating to English" means "Translating to English". Not "Translating to an ugly hybrid of English and Romaji".

Tips for you all:

>Get rid of the -chans, -sans and -kuns altogether
>-samas are to be replaced with a title in English, the language you're fucking translating to, such as Lord- or Lady-
>If a character's Japanese name is romaji for something English, use the English. It's "Bills", not "Beerus".
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>>88399165
>>88399211
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G75lGrM6Mjw
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>>88399560
None of that pertains to "vegeta was stolen from another race"
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>>88399340
>why don't these faux TL's realise

Because they're like, 16. They have no fucking idea what they're doing or how ridiculous they look.

They'll figure it out in time and then the cycle repeats.

I thought Beerus was supposed to match Whis(key) though
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>>88394534
Batman gets buttmad that he has to compete with Goku for Superman's attention
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>>88399663
I mean Vegeta literally says the Saiyans stole and conquered another planet and named it Vegeta but I guess you can say that no, there wasn't necessarily another race there.
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>>88394694
That would be pretty cool. Especially if you throw in the multiverse like dragon Ball super did, but use more universes. DC isn't limited to 12 universes luckily
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>>88399663
Vegeta as in Planet Vegeta, it was taken over by the Saiyans after they destroyed Sadla, implying they stole it from the people already living there.
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>>88399715
Oh, you mean the planet. I and I suspect everyone else assumed you meant that Vegeta the person was stolen.

Anyway, I believe it's always been canon that Vegeta was their second planet. Not sure if the first one ever had a name.
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>>88399758
Oh I'm not the person who you were talking to before lol but I get it. Easy misunderstanding.
I've been out of the loop DBZ wise for a few years I had no idea about this planet thing.
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>>88399758
>Anyway, I believe it's always been canon that Vegeta was their second planet. Not sure if the first one ever had a name.

Nope, it wasn't. The manga never mentioned how the Saiyans ended up living on Vegeta, it was just assumed they came from there. Granted, the anime made the stupid claim about the Tuffles but given how the episode gave us a non-canon explaination for Vegeta's destruction, how every piece of media featuring the Tuffles contradict each other and how it's all just a long line of bullshit the anime made up, I thought it was safe to disregard it as trivial at best.
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>>88394534
It would work really well, you could have a whole thing about how the Saiyans tried to invade Krypton and were pushed back causing Krypton to become the isolationist assholes they eventually became.

Hell you could have a Saiyan-Daxamite alliance vs Krpyton war.

Most of DC is super science so you could get all kinds of weird mods for Saiyans trying to cheat at becoming Super Saiyan and whatnot.

Speaking of super science, I don't know how well Goku wold hold up in DC, super science shenanigans take out Superman all the time and Goku can be easily poisoned or mutated, mid controlled, etc.
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>>88399937
King Kai calls the Saiyans desert people that conquered the peaceful city people.
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>>88399959
I know people make fun of weebs with good reason and the whole dumb Superman vs. Goku thing, but I so want a Superman/Goku crossover some day. It could so much fun.
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>>88400058
Where in the MANGA does that happen?
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>>88400188
It's in the anime
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>>88399959
>super science shenanigans take out Superman all the time and Goku can be easily poisoned or mutated, mid controlled, etc.

Sounds like Goku would be a perfect fit.

Is there an Evil Alt-Universe Goku yet?
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>>88400237
yeah, Black
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>>88400221
Which is my point, the anime doesn't actually count, it would just shit all over it's own ideas if they contradicted the manga.
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>>88400265
Hey we call other people on here "anon", not by their race.
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>>88400294
that's the characters name
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>>88394648
>Z Warriors
The Justice League basically formed itself. Besides, they've defeated enemies with the highest kill counts.

>>88396979
>Pan will never be old enough to fight
I wouldn't speak so quickly. Toriyama may take his own shot at Pan and probably even Grandpa Goku.
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>>88400316
I know I was just kidding.
So he is from an alternate universe?
This guy's universe? >>88399560
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>>88400384
no he's from Goku's universe, it's really complicated with time travel and all kinds of other shit.
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>>88398605
As though they'd ever introduce a female saiyan in the actual show. Even if they did, she'd just get turned into a breeding chamber for other characters, like every other female character.
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>>88400384

No not exactly, it's... complicated... I'll put in spoiler tags.

He is a Kaioshin in training from Universe 10 named Zamasu, who hated the mortals for their foolishness but hated that he couldn't do anything about it. When he found out about Goku, a mortal with limitless potential, and the Dragon Balls he formed a plan to reforge the world in his image. He used the Dragon Balls to wish that he and Goku would switch bodies, used time travel to find an alternate timeline where there weren't any other gods strong enough to oppose him (Trunks' timeline) and teamed up with his alternate self. Their plan was to wish the alternate Zamasu immortal and then fuse using the potara earrings, so they would have the ultimate power to create a world in which they are the supreme being who cannot be stopped in his quest to eliminate all mortals.
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I never understood why people say Goku and Superman wouldn't fight because they're good guys. Goku is a violence-loving idiot who always wants to fight. He'd meet Superman, challenge him to a fight, Superman would say no because they're in a population center, and Goku would fight anyways, because Goku.
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>>88400656
Goku doesn't fight in population centers
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>>88400623
I....I just wanted an evil Goku from an alternate universe

>>88400656
>Superman would say no because they're in a population center, and Goku would fight anyways,
No Goku would be like "okay let's go to a desert mesa lol" and Superman can go "Alright sure" and THEN they would fight.
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>>88400656
consider suicide
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>>88400739
DBZ Goku maybe, not Super Goku though
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What if it turns out that the hyperbolic time chamber and the phantom zone are the same place?

Evil Kryptonians get thrown into Goku's universe and start fucking everything up while Goku gets pushed into DC and finds Superman.
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>>88397871
>>Aaaw shit I never thought about writing these things... Better fill in these gaps over a decade later.


Are you stupid?

He saw Man of Steel and said "fuck it, i'm all in".

He is a superman fanboy and wantes his superman to have an origin that was EVEN closer.
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>>88394534
SSB Goku couldn't even survive the pressure of being at the center of the Earth.
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>>88394840
...Shut up Morrison
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>>88400883
By DB universe rules, smaller the planet = greater is the gravity. So their rules don't work like in our world or the DC world
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>>88400739
If it were just an evil Goku from an alternate universe, that would be bad fanfiction levels of writing.

Black is bad fanfiction done right.
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>>88400883
he needed a suit to protect him from the heat not the pressure
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>>88400981
No.
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.>>88401035
Goku Black seems like convoluted cape shit
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>>88401131
He isn't though, he's actually really well written.
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It would either end in a draw of respect or Goku would lose and swear to become stronger and then does just that.

It's not rocket science.
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>>88401188
he's the only thing well written in that whole arc
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>>88401269
Sorry fun police, we'll pack it up now
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>>88401309
kek How am I stopping fun? That's just what Goku is as a character someone who is always striving to become stronger. Superman would provide the perfect motivation
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>>88394534
Goku or Wukong?
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>>88401584
Ukog
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>>88398738
Dende was confused by the concept that humans have separate sexes. Namekians, like the slugs they're based on, don't have them. They're not male; they don't have junk. How difficult is that to understand? Even fucking Ghost Nappa was able to do so.
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>>88398348
Lord Slug's non-canonical bulge disagrees!
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>>88397045
Superman vs goku is done time and time again and has been settled, with the victory going to superman.

goku vs wonderwoman though is much more closer and i think its would be a tie.
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>>88402264
I don't keep up with wonder woman but does she really have the power to destroy planets?
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>>88398709
In /a/ or /co/?
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>>88398048
>>88397916
Again, what's the fukin title mate?
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>>88402778
Dragonball Side Story: Reborn as Yamcha
http://imgur.com/a/b3WlL
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>>88401286
The arc was fine.
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>>88398067
>Piano even there
>when Piccolo Daimao's thick ass crushed him
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>>88394534
Saiyans are literally Doomsday. An entire race of Doomsday.
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>>88395024
>Darkseid is Frieza but competent
Good joke.
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>>88398132
>Does Goku ever try to visit either of his dads or mom?
You mean his dead saiyan mom, his time displaced saiyan dad or his dead adoptive grandpa's non existant kids?
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>>88398464
only the worthy/choosen get to keep their bodies, all the rest become spirits, reminder that movies and GT are not canon.
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>>88397454
>"let the enemy power up to get a real fight" would drive Bruce insane.
Yeah, batman would hate somebody who let's people live after they've killed hundreds of people.
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>>88398140
Man, fuck that kid. And triple-fuck his parents for not warning him that you don't fight a cat when you're level 1.
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>>88398553
>It doesn't matter what biology says, if they say they're men they are men!
I want tumblr to leave.
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>>88403325
I want both of you to leave.
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>>88394534
They would probably be some kind of krypronian off shoot.
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>>88394840
...Yes
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>>88397338
Superman would probably wont like him at first because i would make him look reduntant.
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>>88402824
Not Trunks
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>>88403697
O-oh... alright.
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Well for this too work it will be revealed that Saiyans are some kind of kryptonian deviants, like they warriors from krypton where exiled from the planet for being to violent or something. Due to the new planet they land has some kind of weird environment the Saiyans develop what we know as the tail and their biology changes, while they still can absorb sun energy for their powers, due to the new exposure of this new environment the Saiyans under the full moon transform into 200 indestructible Apes. as far as Super Saiyan goes, its just all their solar energy being used up in a certain time making them powerful, all that energy they have gathered concentrates and expodes, but it can only last like an hour in that form and it leaves them powerless for hours. There will be some kind of explamation to why only saiyans can to this and Superman can't.
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>>88403930
Exactly
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>>88397454
Didn't Goku only do that with Frieza because he wanted to utterly humiliate him?
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>>88401035
A lot of Dragonball is bad fanfiction done right.

>The son, from the future, of two characters who've barely interacted defeated a cyborg version of the main villain of the last arc and his dad (who was never mentioned until now) with a sword after transforming into a form that previously only Goku had been shown to achieve.

Trunks is the most fan fictiony character ever written.
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>>88398464
Each planet has its own afterlife where only the people that die on that planet go to. However if the planet is destroyed then its afterlife and everyone in it just ceases to exist. Which puts the like of Beerus in a new light.
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>>88404236
he gave up fighting cel and made gohan do it
vegeta let cell absorb 18 to reach his final form
gohan after he went ss2 tried to humlitate cell which ended up killing goku
basically no rationally thinking western superhero would deal with this shit
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>>88395994
Frieza never had God Ki though, and it's not something you can just pick up willy nilly either. You not only have to be trained to use it but be in an area full of the stuff for a long amount of time. Assuming you don't do some ritual to give yourself some like Goku did with Super Saiyan God form.
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>>88396703
>I wonder if they could reproduce with Tamaranians or Kryptonians?

It would probably be like how Kryptonians and Humans are compatible. Sometimes they aren't and they explain it as science, other times they are and they explain it as intelligent design since God is a thing in DC.
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>>88394534
A lot of people compare Clark and Goku but I think Goku would really get along with Dianna.

>Both warriors at heart and would always be up for a sparring match.
>Both start losing themselves in the battle more and more and start ramping up to dangerous levels of kung-fu and wrestling.

>Nyoibo vs. Lasso
>Wondy can deflect ki blasts and kamehamehas with her bracelets.
>Both prefer to stick to close combat.

I'd much rather see Wondy and Goku fight/interact than Supes and Goku.
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>>88397102
How would she feel about him once she learns about his relationship with ChiChi, how it formed, how he treats her, etc? I would imagine keeping his promise about marrying her despite not know what marriage was would earn him some points but I'm not sure about everything else.
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>>88402990
Goku was dead for awhile and can literally teleport to the afterlife on a whim, no reason he can't vist granpa from time to time. The others are probably all clouds now
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>>88397454
Bats would probably like Future Trunks. If we're merging DB and DC would Future Trunks know any other time travelers? I'm not that familiar with time travelers in DC so I can't really think of any.
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>>88397916
>http://imgur.com/a/b3WlL
Little mad he didn't come back as Tien, but still loving this.

It's like if somebody who frequents /co/ died and came back as Bruce Wayne just as him and his parents were exiting the theater.
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Superman goku team up would be pretty fun, i feel like their personalities would be fun together.
Bonus if they fuse
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>>88404991
I'm sure as fuck not doing that Batman shit, gonna hunt me a helment of Fate
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>>88397599
I'm sure the moment Diana learns that Zamasu is immortal she would find some way to lock his ass up and not forget the fucking seals.
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>>88397998
Well both Marvel and DC have been doing that for decades now. Why not SJ?
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>>88398122
Vegeta is a giant handicap. His small penis compensatory behavior is a threat to all life. Fortunately, a practical villain like Black Adam would just effortlessly goad him into an unwinnable fight when Goku wasn't around to bail him out.
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>>88398122
Why? Isn't Vegeta a jobber? He'd lose to a little girl if it meant Goku could look good from it.
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>>88398544
Neat as that sounds. What pronounds do they use for each other in the original Japanese? Cause that's the only answer you'll get.

What it should be from a scientific standpoint =/= What it actually is

And "What it actually is" wins out.
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>>88404632
>Wondy can deflect ki blasts and kamehamehas with her bracelets.
I don't doubt the ki blasts part, but strong Kamehamehas become a blinding wall of light. I don't think the bracelets would suffice there.
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>>88395653
What is the red ribbon army
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>>88405271
Vegeta isn't a total jobber. He's allowed to take down a few legitimate threats as long as they aren't the main villain. He killed Zarbon, Dodoria, a ton of Frieza minions, 20, beat half of Universe 6, and was able to give Black a serious smackdown before he fused. He also beats Goku in every actual fight they have.
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>>88399071
>why would a species so hardwired for violence ever have a society advanced enough to develop space travel?

Who said they developed it? They could have just stolen it from another race. They don't have to know how the shit works, just if they push these buttons they go to other planets.
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>>88399071
Didn't they evolve on a planet with another, weaker but smarter, species?

I'd always just assumed they stole the tech from them.
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>>88399686
Originally it was going to be a pun on the word virus but when Toriyama saw it he thought it was a pun on Beer.
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>>88405014
I just realized Girlku is basically a dumber stronger Videl.
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>>88399340
>It's "Bills," not "Beerus"
Are you retarded?
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>>88399959
Dr. Gero and Dr. Wheelo would probably both fit in great.
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>>88395282
The only reason Goku can ride the nimbus is because he's a nincompoop of the highest order. His kids are a different story because the ox king raised his daughter right and she tries to raise those kids right
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>>88400981
That's not how the rules work. King Kai's planet is just special since it exists in the afterlife and all.
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goku (saiyans in general) would have a fucking field day in the mongul war pit
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>>88405751
That, and it houses an incredibly powerful space pirate
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>>88405355
It always varies with Wonder woman i feel. like a blast will be way bigger than the space of the bracelets but then just stop when it hits her wrists like it's all one solid object, so I just assume her bracelets are more magic than legitimate reflection.
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>>88398132
They're either in Hell or didn't keep their bodies. That right is reserved for the good, and Neither Bardock or Gine was that.

He does see Grandpa Gohan a few times in the afterlife in Dragonball, but that's it.
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>>88404991
Hasn't Tien actually won a fight or two though? While Yamcha has never won a thing, save for baseball contract I guess but that was filler. Putting the guy in the body of Yamcha really puts his knowledge of the story and universe to the test.
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>>88405802
Shut up Bojack
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The power level arguments and people discussing who jobbed to who would have killed comics even more than they're already dead
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>>88405822
you mean like BvS?
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>>88405458
To be fair, from the small sample we have seen, the saiyans in general are actually pretty intelligent.
Goku has fucking brain damage yet once he actually uses his (remaining?) intelligence he's extremely quick to learn even if it's only specialized at learning combat.
Gohan is half human but noone can really say he isn't intelligent.
I can't really count Trunks in this since all of his human genetics come from a line of extremely smart people
Vegeta is like the inbred idiot of all saiyans which probably has to do with him being royalty.
Not sure on Nappa and Raditz. Raditz at the very least is willing to negotiate and plan ahead since instead of trying to challenge Gohan to a fight he decided he'd be great for training.
Nappa immediately thought the obvious about repopulating the saiyan race via hybrids only to be shot down by Vegeta.
Brolly apparently retains enough memories to recognize Goku from the day of his childbirth.
That alt universe with nonviolent saiyans has em capable of the logistics and management needed to police the entire universe without even being able to transform into Super Saiyans.
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So...would Wonder Woman fuck Goku?
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>>88394840
Then who is DC's Vegeta?
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>>88406023
Zod?
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>>88405892
What's interesting is that they skipped over the Raditz arc completely. I guess that played out as normal since Goku hasn't shown up yet.
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>>88405822
I guess I'd be curious to see if that would work.
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>>88406003
Does Chi-chi exist in this continuity? I doubt Goku would cheat on her, but if he were single...well honestly I'm not sure. Goku's too much of a dumb monkey man to initiate any kind of romance so it'd have to be completely Dianna driving the relationship. Which honestly I assume she'd prefer. But yeah, Goku is not a very romantic man.
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>>88394534
Monkey King too op nerf pls.
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>>88405985
I'm not saying the saiyans do not have the potential to be intelligent in ways other than combat. It's just their culture really prevents them from becoming anything other than fighters or, if they fail at that, cooks.

Like a lot of people know how to use a smart phone and any app you can download to it. But not everyone knows how to design a smart phone, physically make the thing, program it, etc.

Saiyans are kind of the same way. They don't have to know how the tech works to use it. You don't need to be Bulma to push a button on a scouter and get a power level reading from someone.
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>>88406003
if chichi could rock Goku, Diana would OWN him
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>>88406082
Haven't gotten to reading it yet. But that's kinda disappointing. Even just a "Here's what Yamcha was doing while the shit with Raditz was going on" would have been a bit neat. Though I'd have to wonder how Raditz would have reacted if this random human just started talking about Vegeta, Nappa, or Freiza by name.
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>>88406117
No he is not with Chi-chi. Yeah, I guess Diana would be the one dominating the relationship and having monkey kids. Could you imagine if Gohan had a mother like Diana?
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>>88406135
Oh I know I'm just pointing out that the moment any individual shows up that can stop thinking about combat for 5 minutes (eg Gine) would easily cause an advancement in their society if they also have the inclination to. It would be less of an organized drive towards advancement like with humans and more of a random Einstein/Tesla dumping inventions everyone finds convenient every once in a while until they get the bright idea that there are other planets of things to fight which would focus their brainpower towards an objective.
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>>88406137
Chichi wins by cartoon logic, anon. He lets his wife win. He wouldn't job in an actual fight with a combatant.
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>>88406176
They're saving it for the next part, so there's still hope.
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>>88398259
Here only really cares about his grandpa and misconstrues his responsibilities as a husband, plus consider he's a fucking savage who was never raised right after he killed his grandpa Gohan.
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>>88406003
>descendants of Saiyans AND Zeus
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>>88397984
>http://imgur.com/a/b3WlL

While I like the concept. I don't like how they skip along. I would have liked to see how Raditz would have gone if this new Yamcha was there, after all he did say he was not going to cheat on Bulma like actual Yamcha, so he would have been at Kame House.

>>88406335
Considering the last panel is Yamcha at Guru's I doubt it.
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>>88406333
i wasnt talking about fighting anon...
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>>88406436
Oh. OH!
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>>88406401
how strong are we talking here?
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>>88400237
There are two
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>>88406401
Pretty OP
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>>88406401
I don't know as far as I know mortal descendants of Zeus tend to be the winningest motherfuckers in mythology. Until their tragic deaths that is.
Being a Saiyan tends to improve their powerlevels by nearly dying then coming back stronger.
They'd be trapped at a high tier base line.
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>>88405271
>He'd lose to a little girl if it meant Goku could look good from it.
Nigga he said it himself he can't square off against a cartoon character, the writing is biased against him
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>>88405892
>Hasn't Tien actually won a fight or two though?
Best Goku in a martial arts tournament, though Goku quickly surpassed the dude after drinking that water

Good that last tournament was good
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>>88403325
>caring about biological accuracy in a japanese cartoon
They're slug people with male voices and male pronouns. What are they supposed to be, then? Hermaphrodites?
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>>88406412
>Considering the last panel is Yamcha at Guru's I doubt it.
I think it was implying that he went to Namek to get his potential unlocked before Vegeta and Nappa arrived.
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>>88408500
Seems unlikely to me but I guess we'll see next year. With how it skipped right from them waking up after Goku went bananas and smashed Pilaf's castle straight to Vegeta and Nappa it seems more likely they're skipping over to Namek.
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>>88394534
What kind of villains would Goku even fight? I don't think there's going to be a lot of planet destroying villains running out on the streets.
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>>88408912
Anyone he thinks could give him a good fight.
If anything he'd make for a good neutral anti-hero.
>Goku hears a world ending crisis is going down, shows up to lend a hand because it'd be a good fight.
>Goku heard on the news the other day Superman bench pressed a planet. Sounds like he got pretty strong, maybe he'd be up for a rumble.
>Goku sees a crime happening, that's not cool knock it off guys.
>Goku is tricked into joining a terrorist regime because they made good chutney dishes.
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>>88408912
You...do know Goku doesn't only fight people who threaten to destroy the planet right?

Goku's been fighting long before planet busting was a thing.
That said, DC is not lacking for any amount of planet busters.
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>>88408959
>Goku sees a crime happening, that's not cool knock it off guys.

Honestly this sounds more like Gohan and Videl's bag. Street-level crime is the one thing I can see Goku being almost completely disinterested in.
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>>88400329
> dragonball post-cell
> giving anyone but goku or vegeta the spotlight

good joke
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>>88408182
They reproduce asexually so we don't really have a pronoun for that. Male pronouns work fine since it fits their appearance and they don't seem to give a shit.
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>>88399340
>If a character's Japanese name is romaji for something English, use the English. It's "Bills", not "Beerus".

You dumb fucking cunt, if anything his English name should be Beers
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>>88409054
Trunks was the one who killed Goku Black so there's that. Well Zeno did but Trunks was the spotlight. And there seems to be hints of Gohan going back to being a badass and Pan being a pretty powerful 1 year old shows promise. They just have to have the balls to live without goku for a bit.
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>>88406378
Goku spends a ton of time hanging out in the afterlife, and not once does he visit grandpa gohan. not even in filler. sad
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>>88409079
This. Beers and Whiskey.
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>>88394982
i see stuff like this and wonder who really wrote dragonball up to cell.

because I am willing to believe that someone ghost wrote the series for toryama.
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>>88397426
Do they? I'd think a Warrior Race would have high death rates, especially since it seemed like every other alien race that isn't Namekian just shits on them.

I mean, look at who was the rival of the Prince of all Saiyan. This guy went toe to toe with fucking warrior royalty. Saiyans ain't shit outside of the Z-Fighters
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>>88409088
>They just have to have the balls to live without goku for a bit.

the buu saga proved they can't
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>>88408912
mongul,darkseid,grundy basically anyone who just wreck shit
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What is /co/ opinion of the newest episode of DBS?
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>>88409340
is this a simpsons reference?
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>>88409372
yes.
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>>88409005
videl is basically a teen jessica jones who can fly
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>>88409381
damn, i dont watch the simpsons so that was a lucky guess
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>>88409426
Is a reference to a gold episode, you should try it.
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how would goku fair in the typical natural disaster
the only other time i can think he dealt with it was the beginning of the lord slug movie
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>>88409202
The Buu saga proved they lived with out Goku for 8 years. What the hell are you talking about?
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>>88395653
>Accidentally

Did you forget he single handedly wiped out an entire army as a teenager? Seriously, how did you forget the Red Ribbon army?
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>>88395058
>>88395790
Ki and magic aren't the same thing, even in Dragonball. Ki is what the fighters use to fuel their energy blasts and flight. Magic is what a few Gods use to create things from thin air, what Babadi used to brainwash his agents, and what Buu used to turn his enemies into candy.
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>>88409546
I talking about from the writing perspective

they went back to goku as the main character because japan didn't like gohan & goten
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>>88409900
True, but all things considered, goku doesn't do much in buu saga. Gohan and Goten don't really grab the "main character role" but I don't feel like Goku overshadows anyone despite being wished back to life.
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>>88395924
Red
Ribbon
Army
>>
Krillin vs. Lex Luthor
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>>88399937
>Turles
>Turnips

I thought he was supposed to be lettuce.
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>>88409970
I think apart of the sentiment comes from how, by the time the buu saga wrapped up, there'd already been several movies released where Goku saves the day with 'everyone share your energy with me'
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>>88399758
Dragon Ball Super has the saiyans of an alternate universe, who never fucked up planet Salda so never conquered planet Plant and renamed it Vegeta, so never became a galactic menace
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>>88400237
there's Turles, who while not actually a version of Goku is meant to represent what Goku would have become had he been raised by other Saiyans.

I.e. loves fighting and killing but too much of a free spirit to work under Frieza so goes out and becomes a space pirate
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>>88410222
Mhm. Which I think is interesting because canonically Spirit bomb has only worked once. (and that was against Kid Buu)
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>>88400774
God Super just fucks everything over...
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>>88410456
wasn't it the finishing blow against Vegeta?
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>>88397502
> Batman goes on patrol
> Suddenly Gohan tags along
> Mr. Bruce. Hey, Mr. Bruce.
> He's wearing his Great Saiyaman costume
> Bats shrugs, it's going to be one of these nights
> Eventually they both arrive at a very dark pier where some drug operation is going on
> Batman quickly hides among the shadows, Gohal follows him without making any noise.
> Good
> A truck arrives soon, and a few limos follow it
> Looks like the info was accurate after all
> Wait for it, they must wait until both parties arrive and reveal themselves so bats could register enough evidence before it's Justice Hammer time.
> Gohan siliently prepares himself to fight
> His batle aura emerges, making the piers glow like fucking midday
> Everyone notice bats and Gohan's hiding place and try to run like fuck
> Batman shrughs
> Fucking Gohan
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>>88394534
There was some /co/ created artwork of Superman and kid Goku kicking around before, I always thought that would be a great crossover story. Get to have super adventures and be lighthearted and fun all together.
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Why is Champa a better god of Destruction than Berrus AND Darkseid?
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>>88410502
No.

>Goku vs Vegeta fighting.
>Galic Gun vs 4x Kaioken
>Great Ape Vegeta beats Goku into the ground.
>Yajirobe cuts Vegeta's tail.
>Gohan fights Vegeta while Goku gives krillin the spirit bomb
>Vegeta gets hit by the spirit bomb after Gohan reflects it.
>Gohan tranforms into a great ape and Vegeta cuts his tail off, but not before gohan falls on top of him, crushing him.


Let's take a minute to remember ALL theef fort that went into Vegeta getting defeated. Goku was only in like...half of that fight.
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>>88395924
He killed a ton of people as a child. As an adult?

-Tried to execute Frieza after showing him mercy twice only to be attacked again, but failed
-Allowed Yakon to kill himself by consuming too much energy, more of an assisted suicide
-Killed Buu after exhausting all other options, but revived him afterwards
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>>88410568
Because he's fat.
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>>88409340
Best filler since the driving cars episode
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>>88397560
They're called artificial humans in Japan. It's a translation hickup
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>>88394534

Reality is Superman would repeatedly stomp Goku in a fight but spare his life, and after the hundredth time with saiyan biology he would be as strong as superman, and they'd be equally strong and tag team defeat other villains. If you don't kill Goku or a saiyan in a fight they will literally equal or surpass their opponent in strength, canon.
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>>88410729
agreed
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>>88411270

I should mention Goku has to recover, so eventually Goku and superman would be sparing partners and he would either equal or surpass superman. Unless it was a fight to the death and superman killed Goku, then he could not recover and gain strength.
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>>88411309
it's been shown a few times that goku's blue form allows him to survive mortal wounds albeit in an exhausted state, and Superman isn't one to double tap, so the first zenkai is free
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>>88402752

I belive /a/ hates DB, so /co/. Why not in this thread?.
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>>88409158
When Vegeta first arrived in that space hospital or wherever, there were tons of dudes addressing him as "Lord Vegeta" and generally acting like they were scared shitless of him. Vegeta seemed to be kind of a middle-management dude, head-and-shoulders above the rank-and-file soldiers, but well beneath the upper echelon. Although Frieza does mention that Vegeta spent more time on the front lines than anyone else in the army.
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>>88404431
Goku also put off teleporting to Earth to defeat Cyborg Frieza and held back when fighting Buu because he thought someone else might want to have a chance against them. Especially in regards to Buu, he's easily just as bad as Vegeta when it comes to dooming the entire human race with his stupid bullshit.
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>>88405892
Yamcha has literally only won one fight in the series, and that was because Bulma had her tits out. Still a better track record than Chiaotzu, who was defeated with basic math, jobbed to a cyborg that Tenshinhan swatted like a fly, and blew himself up for no reason.
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>>88398605
She was a cute
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>>88414198
To be fair, yamcha effectively beat Goku as a kid and Pounded that saibaman to the ground. He just got sneak attack kamikazed.
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>>88394982
isn't this the parody series Toryama did a while ago
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>>88395653
Well he killed King Piccolo and his minions.
Also he wiped out the Red Ribbon Army killing at least his leader. Also count the brain in the jar in World's strongest, Lord Slug, the Bug Kaiju thing and probably half of the animal kingdom consider how much he eats.
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>>88398709
>>88402752
>>88412788


I can do a thread for it.

Isnt Dragon Ball honorary /co anyway?

If it is, I will do.
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>>88415788
>counting movies and filler
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>>88409900
>>88409970
>>88410222
I blame Gohan for that, future Gohan showed us a perfect ideal an yet Toriyama fucked that up
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>>88398605
What kind of vegetable is Gine?
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>>88395746
>He let every single being on Earth die because he felt that is five year old son and his friend should have a turn at fighting an evil demon from the dawn of time during the Buu saga
he was already dead at that point anon, he had to return to the afterlife
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>>88415788
>Also he wiped out the Red Ribbon Army killing at least his leader
what? Officer Black's the one that killed Commander Red anon what are you on about?
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>>88417217
Future Gohan works in the context of a bad future. Gohan becoming like that in a peaceful world would be a very un-dragonball thing to happen, to be honest.
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>>88417541
yes, but my point here is that Gohan wasted his father's sacrifice by not becoming earth's protector, completely discarding any form of training, not to mention the whole Great Saiyaman deal
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>>88417610
Yeah but Goku didn't protect the earth because he believed in truth and justice. Goku protected the earth because he was an insane monkey man who was constantly trying to reach new peaks by fighting stronger and stronger opponents. Goku was never training because he knew he had to protect people. Goku trains because he wants to be the world's strongest.

Gohan would never become like Goku because fighting evil is an obligation for him, not what he does for fun, like Goku. Gohan would much rather be an ordinary teenager and scholar than train all day so that he can fight evil
(and why would he expect any one as strong as Cell would ever come to earth and try to destroy it. Just staying above Freeza level should've been enough)
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>>88418584
>Goku didn't protect the earth because he believed in truth and justice
what is Red Ribbon Army?
what is Demon King Piccolo?
what is Sayian invasion saga?
>>
>implying Gohan ever going to be the main character
>implying he wasn't popular immediately after Cell Saga
>implying he wasn't a top polling character when he beat Cell
>implying Buu saga didn't come out 1 month later
>Toriyama ever writing Goku out of his own comic
Next you'll complain that Supes saves the day too much in Superman comics
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>>88409900
>they went back to goku as the main character because japan didn't like gohan & goten

That is just a legend. Ratings from that time put Gohan as the most popular DBZ character among fans. And Toriyama stated in an interview that as he kept writing he didn´t see Gohan fitting the role of main character because he didn´t have the same drive than Goku.
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>>88418741
>Wanted the Dragon Balls to wish Upa's dad back to life. Didn't really even seem to understand what the Red Ribbon Army was.
>Wanted revenge for Krillin and the others Piccolo had killed
>Let Vegeta go so that he could fight him again
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>>88417278
Goku admitted during Kid Buu that he could have killed Fat Buu as SS3 when they first fought, but he didn't because he wanted the kids to have a shot. He endangered not just Earth but the whole universe by doing that.
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>>88399340
>It's "Bills", not "Beerus".
It's Beerus. The pun is on the word beer. Whis is from whiskey.
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>>88420274
>Wanted the Dragon Balls to wish Upa's dad back to life. Didn't really even seem to understand what the Red Ribbon Army was.
then what was the winter village saga? the attack on Ox king's castle?

>Wanted revenge for Krillin and the others Piccolo had killed
different flavor of Justice

>Let Vegeta go so that he could fight him again
shitting on him for letting Vegeta go is dumb, he averted the crisis and in the long run obtained an powerful ally and friend

>>88421186
I'm watching the episode the fight's seems even, but each blow he deals on Buu gets regenerated, and Goku's stating that he doesn't have enough time to fight with him, so he's pleading with him to let the kids train
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>>88400623
And then Omni-King said "fuck that shit" and destroyed them, in spite of them being more indestructible than the entire multiverse combined.
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>>88409005
>>88409410
They are official on-call sentai In the movies
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>>88409079
>You dumb fucking cunt.
Yikes. The edge on this one.
>>
if dbz elements existed in the dc universe, would there be a rise of people using ki energy kinda to help balance out meta humans?
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>>88415735

No, Jaco the Galactic Patrolman is a prequel to Dragon Ball, and it includes Dragon Ball Minus which is this bonus chapter.

I think you're confusing it with Neko Majin.
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>>88409150

What? It's all his style of writing, unless you watched the dub of the anime, because he sure as hell didn't write that.
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>>88409988

RED
RIBBON
ARMYYYY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmplZojOZJY
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>>88398054
Last sons of planets that were destroyed who are the strongest on their world if not their universe. Help to create a team of natives and one green alien to help defend the earth.
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>>88406057
Mon El?
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>>88399340
>It's "Bills", not "Beerus"

You're a retard.
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>>88424836
>last son of a doomed family destined for greatness?
Sounds familiar
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>>88421508
>shitting on him for letting Vegeta go is dumb, he averted the crisis and in the long run obtained an powerful ally and friend

I believe the anon meant that Goku doing that wasn't for truth and justice, as you said, it was just because Goku wanted to fight him again. That Vegeta became an ally later on has nothing to do with it.

It's Goku's moralistic qualities, which, considering that hire let Vegeta go willy-nilly just so he could fight him again, is not indicative of moralistic standards.
>>
>>88398287
>>88399049
>>88399340
>>88398905

Here's the thing, every GOOD English translation of Dragon Ball does all this. If you grew up with the dub you have to be aware that it's a pretty bad dub.
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>>88417255
Its an anagram of Negi (Onion).
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>>88397916

>yfw Trunks is pure human
>>
>>88394534
I really love image where Goku and superman being pals. I can stand to see more of them.
>>
>>88397998

What do you think the DBZ movies and filler is?
>>
>>88425779
well, let's just say Goku isn't an idealistic hero and leave it at that, I mean the only ones that actually have that mindset would be future Trunks, Krillin and Tien
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>>88426573
If they want to change HFIL back into hell, that's one thing. What in the motherfucking fuck is a TENKAICHI BOUDOKAI? That isn't translating. If it's a world tournament, just say World Tournament.
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>>88409515
You really have to specify the disaster. He can deal with some rough stuff, but some other stuff he's just not trained or equipped for.
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>>88424804
Why's Tao there? He wasn't a member.
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>>88409886

Could buu beat beerus with chocolate beam?
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>>88429615
He's a mercenary. He still worked FOR them, right?
>>
>>88429086
Actually I think it means "Strongest under the heavens' tournament. or ("Best Martial Arts Tournament on Earth")
World Tournament is the official name but Tenchaichi Budokai means something slightly different.
>>
>>88429942
He also refused any order he didn't like and threatened to kill them. And he killed general Blue even.
>>
>>88429871
Probably not. It'd end up a lot like Vegeto, assuming it works at all.
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>>88430061

that wasn't filler?
>>
>>88430009
See, the problem is weebs thinking the words hold so much meaning they can't tamper with them. Such a phrase is meaningless in the west, so "World Tournament" communicates the purpose as effectively as it needs to. There's a reason they bother people with pedantics.
>>
>>88430127
Vegeto vs. Super Buu? How could that possibly be filler?
>>
>>88430228

Sometimes certain scenes in the middle of fights are filler. Like if you remember krillin vs piccolo jr in dragonball they added in some extra fighting to make it longer. I was wonder if vegeto as the fighting candy was filler or not.
>>
>>88430260
No clue. But most people consider that kind of filler canon anyways.

I mean, Buu's candy beam can't possibly be a win-all situations kind of deal, right? It's best they did address it.
>>
>>88429531
What is this? a japanese PSA with dragon ball characters?
>>
>>88430541
yeah, it's a "if something bad happens, call 119" short
>>
>>88394534
At least one of them would be a red lantern
>>
>>88394982
I am shocked, SHOCKED that Toriyama remembered Raditz.
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>>88430127
It's been a few years since I read the manga, but I'm 90% sure the fighting jawbreaker was canon.
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>>88431259
>>88430127
Yep, canon.
>>
>>88404330
Truf
>>
>>88431175
Looking back on it, Raditz actually wasn't that bad of a guy. He only killed like one person who attacked him first, didn't kill Piccolo during their first confrontation, and when he realized Goku wasn't interested he was just going to take Gohan and leave. Compared to Sayian Saga Vegeta and Nappa the man was a saint.
>>
>>88433394
Honestly, given cultural standard differences between Humans and Saiyans it's well within the realm of possibility that a hybrid would be better suited to be raised in one culture, especially when that culture is one of "We work for the biggest baddie in the universe so he doesn't order his minions to blow us up"

And besides, Goku is NOT a man that can raise a child.
>>
>>88433394
There's a whole arc in DBM about Radditz showing up on an Earth where Goku never got brain damaged, and being an awesome brother to him after killing all humans.
>>
>>88399239
2017 is 2 weeks away, we'll make it bro
>>
>>88430166
It's just a mouthful. It is the "World Tournament" and the name of the tournament is "Tenchaichi Budokai".
That's like calling the Kamehameha "Turtle Destruction Wave"
or the Kaioken "King Kai Fist"
>>
>>88431406
>There are actually people who complain that the Buu saga was too serious and dark.
>>
>>88433898
"Kamehameha" is the name of a Hawaiian king. That's a word that actually means something outside of Japan, even if it is a naming gag. Meanwhile "Tenkaichi Budokai" is nonsense to a foreigner, AND a mouthful. An argument could be made about things like Kaioken, but there's something to be said when it just flows like that.
>>
>>88433984
I dunno man. Tenchaichi Budokai is really fun to say. Besides like I said.
"World Tournament" is the name of the genre of the event (A tournament featuring fighters around the world)
Tenchaichi Budokai is the name of the tournament.
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>>88434036
If you need a translator's note explaining it, it's probably not fine.
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>>88434076
Why? If you don't know what it means, you don't know what it means. I don't know why that should make you hate it or want to call it something different
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>>88394840
You've never read both, have you?
>>
>>88434341
If you need a long-winded explanation, it's a shitty translation job. The entire purpose of translating is so people get it. If you get all aloof and try to teach your audience a new language, you completely misunderstand why they are turning to a translator in the first place.
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>>88434378
You don't need to translate it to go to it.

This is a world tournament that's called the Tenchaichi Budokai.

Here's some Raw Fish called Sushi

This is a tortilla sandwich called a Qusadilla.

You don't HAVE to translate it. People will understand it. And beyond that, people will just accept that that's what it's called and not NEED it to be explained to them.

I didn't know what "tenchaichi budokai" meant until this year and I was never upset or put off by the name.
>>
>>88434426
Going by: >>88430009

Call it "Strongest under the heavens tournament" if you absolutely must. Not gibberish.
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>>88434479
It's not gibberish. It's another langauge. like calling it Cinco de Mayo or Dia De los Muertos. Why does it matter?
>>
>>88435129
You're the one dragging this out. The motivations for wanting something translated are so that it is translated. Quit being intentionally daft any time now.
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>>88394648
>what if Goku existed in the DC universe
DC universe villains will target his friends and family to hurt him, I think he stays out of shit until guys like Darkseid show up.
>>
>>88435147
Yeah, but If they want to use the original version for certain things, especially iconic nomenclature, it's fine. It's not even that important. If you wanna call it World Tournament you can. If you wanna call it Tenchaichi Budokai you can.
>>
>>88435205
And if I want to complain about them being obtuse for doing it, I can. Good job championing translator rights, you're back to square one. And I'll continue to call them dorks for being obtuse with their word choice.
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>>88398094
This is kind of beautiful just because of how perfect a copy of the original style this is.
>>
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So while we're talking about the Yamcha fanfiction made canon, can we refer to one of the authors other works? Super Vegeta Den, where Vegeta takes Goku's place on Earth?

The result is that until the Saiyan invasion, Vegeta never struggles or has to train. But in response, Kakarot is someone who has been beaten down to near death in every fight he's been and has tonnes of combat experience. So while their power is around the same, Goku has far more actual experience in combat against foes. And can easily trash Vegeta. Goku then takes Vegeta with him to space so they can rebel against Frieza together.

As for Goku's motivation to fight Vegeta? he's trying to teach the Prince about fighting. He's proud to 1. Be able to teach a so called Elite what fighting truly is and 2. Have someone he can finally go all out against
>>
>>88429086

Ok, but Dragon Ball fans call it the Tenkaichi Budokai, or Tenkaichi Tournament.

You're bitching about shit the dub does all the time, "Master Roshi"? "Kami"? "King Kai"? These aren't names, they're titles!
>>
>>88398531
Wait a minute then why did Vegeta go to Earth heaven during the Buu Saga?
>>
>>88436626
Meant for
>>88404421
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>>88436626
Because he died on Earth. And he didn't go to heaven, they straight up say he was in hell but was given his body back because the situation was that dire.
>>
>>88397571
I don't think you understand how the android saga androids work.
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>>88394982
Yes, but with spaceships.
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>>88429086
Home for Infinite Losers is 100x better.
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>>88409340
I miss having sides
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>>88406023
>>88406057
Batman. The one that doesn't really like Goku originally, but ends up being his brooding, reluctant friend that's able to get what's necessary done.

Also gets stronger every time he almost dies?
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>>88436888
It's damn clever, that's for sure.
>>
>>88436248
Fun Fact:
Master (Muten) Roshi is essentially "Master Master" or "Master Teacher". Because both Master and Roshi are basically synonymous.
>>
>>88394534
goku sux
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>>88437018
Batman's Piccolo.
>likes standing in tall places brooding
>always come at the last minute in a "surprise" to try to save the day
>teenage sidekick ward
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>Upon his reappearance, he impales Future Trunks through the chest with a Full Power Death Beam, mortally wounding him (while the FUNimation dub states that this was intentional, the original version implies that he was just firing randomly, as evidenced by the line "Who was it that I hit? Trunks?").

cell is best villain
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