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>can't wait to delve into each of these guys' individual backstories

Thanks for reading!
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This comic is so boring.
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>>88393249
I really liked this comic when it first came out.

These days, with each page that gets posted, I find myself caring about it less and less.
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>Introducing EVEN MORE PLOT POINTS when the million we have already are still not even close to wrapping up
Zack pls
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>it's still Day 3
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I'm having a hard time giving a shit about this comic anymore.

It was legitimately overflowing with promise and potential when it started but holy fuck it is uncommon that you see something throw all that away so fast.
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>>88393249
this page reminds me of the "WOAH LOOK AT ALL THAT EXPOSITION" page from that got awful Cass Cain run. This is even worse tho becasue it will take YEARS for any of this to be touched upon, hell he could've shown us instead of telling us but I think even he is aware of how long it would take him to actually do that. Max's comment in the page to try and pretend this isn't lazy by playing it as a joke is just plain bad tho.
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>>88393249
>when max is a conduit for all of us
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>>88393249
Anyone else thinks Zack doesn't have any idea what to do with paranatural?
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So how long until someone points out that this page is making fun of the recent ocean of plot threads and isn't actually introducing more?
Not that it excuses this page, as he could and should have done this joke earlier.
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Paranatural is kill
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What the fuck has this comic become.

Please tell me this was just a really bad joke and not actual plot points.
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Zack thinks we forgot that he used the same alt-text joke on this page but we didn't

>I used the extra week to write each and every one of these characters' backstories. Can't wait for their individual flashback arcs.

btw this page is from about 3 and a half years ago
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Oh, my dear sweet Zack.

Where did you go so wrong?
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>>88393249
So in June the kids went looking for who was possessed, since then we've had no resolution or advancement on that, and 2 more added, with lesbians, and now Max apparently has to bring down the administration, I'm predicting Trump jokes incoming.
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>tfw you enjoy watching this guy slowly burn all the goodwill from his fanbase and turn his comic into more and more of a bland disaster
>happily rubbing my hands together for the day even his patreon fans have enough of his shit and drop him and he'll struggle to make anything at all after that point, having tossed away the keys to the kingdom due to pure hubris

Delicious, what an absolute botch of a comic, what wasted times, what broken dreams, what an unfulfilled disappointing narrative, what a fucking sullied art career, all those friendships he ruined by climbing to the top and ditching his home boys for tumblr cred...

This comic is the living fucking death and I'm loving it.
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>>88393249

Oh hey it's the general emerald joke again, but this time without any meaningful context
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>>88395064
I best part is that I think he realizes this, but he's too far deep now.
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adding school conspiracies to your ghost conspiracy comic only makes it messier
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>>88394331
I'm not even all that satisfied with that reaction either. Like it's over the top as usual but still kinda eh.
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>>88395113
All it would take is courage.
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Did he ever say why he chose a middle school setting instead of senior high school or college? More related waifubait desu
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>>88395198
I'm assuming it's because he likes Shonen manga
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>>88393249
Honestly if this were tossed away as a joke pages ago I'd've probably laughed but Jesus is this pacing bad. Reminds me a lot of the recent arc of Prison School. Lot of promise but get the fuck on with it already.
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>>88393249
Cute. I wonder if Zach was really joking in the bottom panel because I wanna see them designs.
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>>88395126
It's the plot of a Recess episode I'm sure of it.
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>>88393249
Nether Max is going to call out this bullshit as it is and this page becauses a filler or theses new fuckwits are also connected to the spirits whatever bullshit and we get more crap piled on

I'm taking bets
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>>88394942
Hm. I miss the older style. Was this drawn on paper, or what?
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>>88394148
This page is literally a joke about that, anon.
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>>88394942
This is the last update I remember aside from stray pages I see on /co/ from time to time
Has it really been 3 years now?
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>>88395309
Yes, but the difference is also in that the lines are generally thinner, the characters are oriented inconsistently (which is more realistic because two people do not have perfectly fucking symmetrical and even faces), and the panel composition was more diverse and often included scenery.
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when is hijack gonna go to the fireworks factory?
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>>88395220
shonens take place in highschool.
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>>88395352
I'd imagine his update schedule was even more infrequent than nowadays.
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>>88395410

It used to be weekly but I thought he had a job back then
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>>88395400
There's plenty of shonen manga with younger protagonists. Naruto was 12 for the first million volumes. Goku looked even younger for a long time in Dragon Ball and same is true of Gohan later on. Right now My Hero Academia is about middle-school kids.
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>People not understanding the joke in this page and having the nerve to complain about it.
Why are you guys allowed to discuss comic if you suck at reading them?
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The reddit comments are the exact opposite. A total bunch of Ass-kissers.
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>>88395445
It was Monday/Wednesday then

I remember because a page near the end of the chapter announced the change to Tuesday/Friday
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>>88395325
The fifth panel is a definitely a joke. The rest seems like it could actually be plot relevant, just presented in a silly way.
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>>88395483
My hero academia is in highschool.
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>>88395507

It was weekly before it was M/W, back in the first chapter or 2
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>>88393249
>people ITT too autistic to understand last panel is one of the best joke in recent Paranatural with "let's beat a million kids!"
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I just need to hide Paranatural threads till this chapter is completed.

I hope he decides to go on hiatus after this chapter to work on a buffer and all. That'd be the best Paranatural related news in a long while. I remember there being a time when I was happy for 2 pages a week.
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>>88393419
Both the art and writing have devolved to a truly incredible degree. Social justice is like alzheimer's for young webcomic artists.
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>>88394942
The frustrating thing is that I WANT to know these fuckers' backstories, but I know we won't be going back to this part of the plot anytime soon.
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>>88393249
Enough shit. Let's talk about how cute Cody is.
>tfw you'll never wake up to cody's glowing blue eyes staring into your soul
It's just not fair /co/.
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>>88394908
Its children's anime: the webcomic
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...I'm enjoying this. Am I alone?
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>>88399121
He looks like crap right now.
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I don't really understand why everyone is so down on the comic these days. Granted the muslim lesbian thing was about the most pandery thing imaginable, but school and spiritual antics are at least entertaining to me.
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>>88393249
this page is actually funny. huh.
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>>88395113
>>88395064
>the comic goes into a description of what happens to ghosts as they pass on
>'they start to loss focus'
>suddenly the comic starts getting hazy
>'the color starts to drain from their figure'
>the whole comics goes sepia tone and we move back to a floating wobbly mess that is the comic
>'eventually the focus starts to fall apart'
>the anthropomorphic figure starts to lose shape to a sort of globular mess
>'until... suddenly...'
>the whole comic pops, and we're left with a blank page
>the end
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>>88393249
For fuck's sake Zack, we don't give a shit about this crap.
Get back to the Spirit shit.
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>>88394942
Ah back when cameos were actually cameos instead what happened on this page
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This is a great page and very funny. Only an idiot would think this is at all serious and setting up more plot points.
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>>88399470
Same. We've been getting a lot of classic quality pages. People are just too upset overall to enjoy them.
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>>88401555
I have no idea who those people are supposed to be.
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>>88394942
>btw this page is from about 3 and a half years ago
My god, it looks so interesting. What happened?
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Do you think he's delaying this long because he doesn't want to admit that the obvious twist that Hijack and Jeff are working together at this point until everyone's forgotten about it?
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>>88402091
Just a cameo of a friend's comic.
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>>88395198
He's a fan of young women is all.
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>>88393419
Honestly, the art shift was like an artillery shell to me.

Early PNat had such a great art style that was really fresh, one that blended stylistic anime inspired designs with cartoonishness.

The new one is technically more proficient, I suppose, but it's also much, much blander.

Also, the story is really floundering at this point, and this chapter is a fucking mess
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>>88395492
Because this is not the first time he's made this joke and every time it becomes more true and less funny.
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>>88393419
It started as FLCL.

Now it has become Bleach.
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>>88402220
It's more like he doesn't want to sit on any plotlines.

>I wanna have an Ed focused chapter and an Isaac/Max falling out and Hitball and Zarei and Day's romance and Isabel and Spender and Johnny's arc and the Student council and Lisa's antics at the café and so on.

He's ping ponging between so much stuff that there's absolutely no sense of satisfaction anywhere, because the second you get invested, as you may, you get taken to a new scene.

Hitball should have been its own chapter. It even had its own three act structure and everything.
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>>88402565
>It started as FLCL
wat?
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>>88402565
>>88402643
It started as a fun take on Bleach and became Bleach.

I said that 4 years ago as a joke, and it's become true
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>>88394942
>Vibe

Fuck I miss that
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>>88395198
He enjoys DFC. It would be a little obvious if they were in highschool.
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>>88393249
Dang, Cody's peanut head really goes haywire in that last panel
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Can this comic go a single fucking page without a character spazzing out like a retard?
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>>88403128
It looks fine for the perspective.
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>>88394942
>says 2013 at the bottom
>3 and a half years ago

It's almost 2017 tho
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>>88395026
>stuco president is Trump, but as a kid
>also he is bald but wears a wig, how embarrassing
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>>88395026
I seriously doubt any real politics will be included in this comic.
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>>88394942
I wonder if he actualy saves time doing it the way he does now? Did he get constant wrist injuries doing it on paper?
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>>88403277
>>88395026
Please no. He didnt sperg out over twitter about it, so I have hope he wont go low.
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>>88395640
Junior high
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>>88403308
It wouldn't really make a difference. He's still using his hand the same way. Actually a tablet is more likely to cause wrist injuries because unlike paper where you're really supposed to draw moving your arm and not your wrist, you have to use only your wrist with a tablet. Plus after your wrist is hurt it's going to keep getting injured because it's weaker. To fix it he'd have to take off a lot of time to get therapy for it which is a good idea since he doesn't want to lose his drawing ability.
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>>88403362
Jr High in Japan, but she's in 9th Grade. That'd be High School here
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>>88403433
In America Junior high is 7, 8, 9
High school is 10, 11, 12
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>>88403364
So he's not saving that much time, he's hurting himself and it looks subjectively worse.
wow whoa
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>>88403453
No, in America Jr High ends at 8th grade.

Ninth Grade is Freshman year. It can differ, but that's the most common. High School is 4 years
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>>88403453
Not for me. It was 6, 7, and 8.
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>>88403364
>unlike paper where you're really supposed to draw moving your arm and not your
You're supposed to draw with your arm anyway.

Drawing with your wrist is objectively wrong, unless you're doing details
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>>88403476
>>88403480
9th grade is when it formally begins but its often divided that way in non-flyover land.
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>>88403507
The same goes for writing and using a mouse
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>>88403509
Were you really that offended by being corrected?
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>>88403471
I think the art style was going to happen whether or not he kept scanning or not. Maybe he can get a cintiq and we can get back some of the hand drawn feel. IMO this is the best drawing he's ever made and I'd like to see the comic looking like that but it might be a little time consuming with his current method.

Yuko Ota of Johnny Wander completely fucked up her wrist and had to learn how to draw with her other hand which led to some interesting results. She still has problems with her wrist I believe. Zack hopefully won't get to that level.
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>>88395325
Making fun of yourself doesn't fix anything.
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>>88403550
Wow, this blows his other art out the water.
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>>88399177
No, there are lots other stupid people reading this comic.
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>>88395064
You underestimate the stupidity of his fanbase.

This comic GAINED readers and Patrons during Hitball.

There are lots of dumb fucking morons with shit taste out there.
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>>88395325
>This page is literally a joke about that
It isn't though. Or at least it jokes about it while simultaneously making it necessary to take down the student council before he takes down the deputy principle. AKA new enemies that don't really matter in the great scheme of things.
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>>88403266
3 and a half years ago was still in 2013.
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>>88404063
Yes it is. All 12 of those guys will probably not even show up in the background. It's not introducing anything new.
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>>88403533
yes, forgive me.
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>>88404063
I hope he doesnt actively do that, gets back on track to hunting hi-jack, and the resolution of that somehow in a page or two solves all the subplots brought up here so theyre not an issue ever again.
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We Kill the Kill now?
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>>88403266
ITS
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>>88405352
MONTY PYTHON'S FLYING CIRCUS
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>>88394331
Since when were you under the impression that Max ever stopped being our conduit?
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>>88405352
THE NUTSHACK
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>>88399121
Cody remains the perfect cocksleeve, yes there is that going for it.
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>>88393249
>Twelve Black Saint Councilor-Generals
Which shonens is Zack parodying?
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>>88403362
>>88403433
>literally transferred to a school where he will be till her turns old enough in a couple years to do hero work.
>jr high

oh anon.

They turn 16 by the end of the school year.


10th-16
11th-17
12th-18
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>>88404063
>Or at least it jokes about it while simultaneously making it necessary to take down the student council before he takes down the deputy principle.

I will literally suck your dick to completion if any of the characters he's referring to actually appear in the comic. This is a gag, plain as day.
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>>88408425

Hunter x Hunter.

The dodgeball arc was pretty direct homage, the rules for spirit energy is basically Nen, and HxH had a habit of dropping in big exposition dumps just to ignore it forever too.

This page right here is a parody of the Shadow Beasts. Togashi introduced them and built them up as the most elite hitmen in the world's mafia organizations, then killed half of them in one chapter and the other half off-panel.
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>>88399470

Thing is /co/ would have been ALL about a brown lesbian character if Zack hadn't made his specific comment that he was introducing minority characters to spite 4chan. I just don't understand how anyone could spend any length of time here and think that brown lesbians is something that people here find distasteful.
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>>88410232

I should also mention that this big war between the mafia and an elite group of assassin thieves is all going on while the main character cares about basically none of that and just wants to track down a rare video game.

The key difference is that Togashi could release 20 or so pages every week compared to Zak's 2, so he could afford to flesh out he world with tons of expositions and worldbuilding without ever making the story seem to drag, and Zak can't.
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>>88410301
Boy I sure hope a group of brown lesbians don't ravish each other's bodies, Zack. 4chan sure would hate that! You know?
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>>88410232
>the rules for spirit energy is basically Nen
Not even, it's just spectral constructs.
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Is this literally the SAME CHAPTER as the Hitball stuff from forever ago?

How long has this fucking chapter been going on? It feels like it's literally been three years.
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>>88410232
Spirit energy is nothing like nen and if Zack had watched HunterXHunter then Paranatural should be a lot better.
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>>88410301
Nah. 4chan has a pretty reactionary stance when it comes to anything other than white people. Having them lesbians will already get the people who complain about lesbians being in every webcomic, then have one of them be Muslim and the other black? No way would it fly.
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>>88410876
Same as the train chapter. It's a chapter that could very easily and should be split into 2. Maybe even 3.
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>>88411335

Are you being serious? Nobody on 4chan (outside of maybe /pol) gives a fuck about this shit. ESP as far as "delicious brown girls" are concerned, maybe the culture has shifted since I started coming here, but "reactionary about things not white" is not at ALL how I would characterize 4chan.

And 4chan complains about EVERYTHING. Even in threads about things this boards enjoys there's nothing but negativity, just because there's lots of bitching about lesbians being in "everything" doesn't mean the board in general doesn't CRAVE that shit.
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>>88411811
Except many people were complaining about it in every thread. Were you here for those threads?
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>>88411878

After Zack EXPLICITLY stated it was to become unpalatable to the people on this website. Do you not get that? If he hadn't made a point to say "I'm doing this so 4chan won't like it" no one here would have even fucking blinked.
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>>88411907
No. He said that many many months before that date even happened. Where are you getting your info?
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>>88411928

Zack posted the tweets about becoming unpalatable to 4chan via the introduction of a greater number of minority characters around the same time Dr. Zarei was introduced.
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>>88411988
Actually a bit before Day was introduced, which was months after Zarei was introduced. And there were definitely comments about Day being pandering and stuff but not much complaining about Zarei since she wasn't intrusive and didn't have a lot of focus. Most of the complaining was about the tweets themselves and how Zack would change the comic but nobody really complained about Day and Zarei until the date happened.
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maybe this is too optimistic (it is), but i hope to god this is zack's way of acknowledging how bogged down and overly convoluted things have gotten (it's probably not), and that he's finally going to slam the brakes on the excessive subplots and new characters and get shit back on track (extremely unlikely), and the next update will be hijack in the mother fucking principal's office (hahahahaha)
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>>88412308
Nah. It's just a joke about anime not about the comic itself. Still a good page.
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Somebody told me a while back that this comic was good.

Is it still worth getting into, or is it a corpse?
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>>88412437
It's worth reading for what it used to be. Whether or not you want to keep following along after you're caught up is a different story.
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>>88412437
You'll probably enjoy it well enough. Problems really only arise through weekly reading. If you want to enjoy it definitely don't come to these threads but it was my favorite webcomic at one time and still is one of my favorites so I say read it.
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>>88393249
Honestly he needs to try doing monthly chapters or something. 1 page a week is bad for this kinda thing
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>>88412745
>Problems really only arise through weekly reading
Don't just lie to people like that, Anon.
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>>88412101
Obviously it takes time to change the plan and not destroy the story. Months before doesnt mean anyhting when it was moving incredibly slow.
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>>88411878
People didn't give a fuck that it was a brown girl, they gave a fuck that Zack spent a solid month ON the brown girl and that it had nothing to do with the plot
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>>88410301
>/co/ would have been
'muh' Brown fetish fags are a loud and annoy MINORITY. Just like THICC fags. I hope they both eventually fuck off. They certainly don't represent eveyone
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>>88410232
>HxH
Saint Seiya, you fucking casual. It's the series that popularized the formula and the reason many of those groups (and parodies of them) have "Saints" in the title.

What you're saying is like attributing power levels to One Piece.
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>>88410301
>I just don't understand how anyone could spend any length of time here and think that brown lesbians is something that people here find distasteful.

there was a time when you would have been right but ever since the /pol/smokers moved in i feel like i don't even fuckin KNOW /co/ anymore. zack was right telling this place to go fuck itself.
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>>88417164
I like GOOD brown lesbians.
Day and Zarei felt forced (nearly "Bobby, you're gay" level dialogue) and came at a really, really bad time.
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>>88410232
Nah. The Dodgeball arc had actual action and played out nothing like HxH's dodgeball. HxH was literally just exposition breaking down 2 minutes of game time into a 10 chapter/2 episode long play by play.
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>>88415720
>nothing to do with the plot
It did, it just didn't have to do with the Hijack plot.

That's the thing about Paranatural. There are a lot of plots.
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>>88417353
Zack pandering to the dumbest denominator with "you are gay" just because there are people who can deny anything gay in Steven Universe was obnoxious.

But somehow the biggest thing that irked me was the silly faces.

Flirting and getting flustered is fine, making serious characters sweat and break their facade is fine, but having Zarei's face melt into a blob was a few steps too far for comedy's sake.

Like how Zack decided the text commentary on Forge's dramatic wind panel was over the top in a bad way and removed it.
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>>88419740
You could still have confirmation that she's gay without being so...condescending.
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>>88419740
>was a few steps too far for comedy's sake
Z/hack's been doing this for months, relying too much on wacky faces and quips every panel.
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>>88393249
>shut up, shut up, stop talking
Max is about to demand why the hell Cody shoved his hand in Max's shorts in gym class and will learn that it wasn't him with that girly-ass handwriting after all, he just wanted to talk to be friendly.

Will we finally learn the identity of the mystery note giver two pages from now and then suddenly leap to another scene?
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>>88419740
What was the removed text?
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>>88395483
Not to mention Hunter x Hunter.
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>>88419524
>It did, it just didn't have to do with the Hijack plot
he was clearly talking about the MAIN plot (hijack plot).

Also, the lesbo thing doesn't have anything to do with any other plot. The pages that had actual impact were one or two. The rest was lesbo wanking that is just in the way of storytelling.
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>>88420661
I thought it was obvious who it was, he even left suzy alone after he was done preventing her from hearing anything from the conversation max had with the club
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>>88420825
who do you mean?
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>>88420938
I mean yeah, people haven't really been keeping up with the comic, but why are you here if you haven't read the last 5 months worth of comic?
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>>88395483
There's also Shaman King which somehow Zack never saw.
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>>88420825
You think Afro Secrets writes with a lavender pen and draws the dot over the i and the period as circles?

Does his misdirection know no bounds?
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>>88421088
>which somehow Zack never saw

Anon, that's Bleach+Earthbound he never saw/played, as of early 2012. Shaman King is quite openly Paranatural's and Vibe's and Demon Kings's primary influence.
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>>88421001
Not him but Ive been reading every update but I forget everything. I remember clearly all the parts I binged when I first found this comic about a year or two ago. Once this chapter is finished it will be a more enjoyable read.
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>>88421127
I would repost >>58812591 but it seems I only saved the thumbnail.
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>>88421127
>Bleach he never saw
That makes a lot more sense.
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>>88421127
I miss the Trinity.
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>>88402247
which one?
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>>88421672
One you have to gibmoneypls on Patreon in order to read it online.
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>>88421779
Theyre cute girls, does the artist do lewd?
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>>88421001
man, i'm just asking who is this 'obvious person' that wrote that letter.
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>>88421824
Someone else already figured that out. Not many people interact with Suzy. >>88421099
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>>88422005
I don't think Dmitri really have much to say to him.

Also, that would be gay as hell if it was a man.
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>>88401811
>classic quality

Someone needs to reread the comic. The art has gone downhill.
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>>88422354
Maybe he is Isaac's ex
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>>88422642
So you be sayin'
>he accidentally bit Dimitri's dick
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>>88422705
>weather powers
Maybe he made Dimitri black?
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>>88420680
Look closer Lenny.
http://paranatural.net/comic/chapter-4-page-47
>emo fresh
>sweet breeze
>wow
>so cool
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>>88419740
he actually removed it because people thought it was a doge reference and not zack downplaying seriousness in his typical zack way
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>>88420788
>doesn't have anything to do with any other plot
Day is a lesbian honeypot and will seduce Zarei's secrets out of her if it comes to that.

Day will then be torn between her fangirl crush on Zarei and her duty to betray her to the Consortium.

It's kinda obviously relevant for the future spy plot. Poorly done but relevant.
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>>88423442
>>88420788
I have no problem with them being gay together or whatever, although Muslim Lesbian is pretty funny, but this should not be here in this chapter.

Honestly, neither should Hitball. Hitball was its own fucking chapter. It had a fucking three act structure for Christ's sake.
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>>88423550
I feel like it was way too early for the date. It really took a lot the edge away from Zarei and I would have liked her stay sardonic for more than a single chapter instead of being this awkward nerd.
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>>88423442
As the other guy said, this still has nothing to do with any plot that is going on right now. It's just out of place.
>>88423550
>Muslim Lesbian is pretty funny
A blind lesbo and a muslim lesbo is indeed quite weird when you think that one has no reason to have any sort of attraction and the other's beliefs contradicts her being gay.
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>>88414586
It's true.

>>88415720
>People didn't give a fuck that it was a brown girl
So why were people complaining how unreasonable it was that a black girl and a muslim girl would be lesbians?
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>>88424242
Wut. "the Consortium sent a spy" is definitely a "plot that is going on right now" and will continue to be threaded throughout probably the next 3 chapters at the very least.
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>>88421796
Pretty sure they're not drawn half as well in their actual comic. I think it's called Computer Love or something.
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>>88422739
Accidentally shocked the gay out of him.
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>>88424993
Wow it's hideous.
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>>88424993
CL is a free webcomic, those cameo characters are from their new Patreon-exclusive space lesbians comic.
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>>88421387
Zack took a dark path.
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>>88401555
So the sockpuppet spirit is part of Zarei's traumatic past from That Day, 13 years ago?
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>>88422705
still my otp, even though harem end is more likely.
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>>88424921
You're wrong anon, the pacing is wack. I used to really like this comic and I've recommended it to plenty of people, I think I'm the only one who still reads it.

As for the Zarei discussion, there were a couple of trolls but most of it was me and that other guy living in a fairly muslim country discussing how Zarei's faith doesn't make much sense considering alliance with djinn is completely against her religion.
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>>88427312
How Muslims in a Muslim country act means very little compared to American Muslims who come here to escape that bullshit.
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>>88427408
I'd hope american muslims actually follow their religion still, I don't think going to djinn for help rather than Allah is an unreasonable thing to forbid.
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>>88427853
Please don't start this retarded argument again.
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>>88427878
Is it retarded because you disagree with it? Can I see some evidence that the Quran would allow such a thing?
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>>88428015
Nobody cares what the quran says. Zack clearly doesn't so neither should you.
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>>88427853
Lots of people pick and choose the parts of their religion they take seriously. Dr. Shirk is no different.

The only people who try to maintain an absolutely perfect consistency with the holy texts are called fundamentalists.
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>>88428091
Which is why zarei doesn't make a ton of sense as a practising muslim and therefore can be a lesbian with out any discussion because she wears the hijab for show.

I was just explaining that assuming people were complaining because the comic had a muslim character other than a few trolls is a mistake, we can discuss the implications of things in a fictional world without them having any effect on reality or canon.
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>>88395325
>>88404063
So now we know there's all sorts of shady stuff happening behind the curtains at the school, but that won't go anywhere either.

That's what Paranatural has become: 50% Nameks, 50% stillborn plot lines
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>>88428266
there's a slight difference between holding investments through loopholes in your religion or choosing to drink alcohol and actively communicating with fucking spirits.

I assume you are an american, do you think it would be okay for a christian character to have an alliance with demons?
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>>88428534
What does 'okay' mean here. Believable?

It would be something that would definitely have to be explored how their faith conflicts with their interactions with the demons, and how malicious or harmless the demons are that they work with. I mean to complete the analogy with Paranatural, the world is entirely inhabited by invisible demons, angels cast down by God to earth/bumbling ex-minions of Satan, and they're one of the minority who can see them.

Zack obviously has ignored the question of shirk entirely. Maybe in flashbacks when Zarei first became a spectral and realized that she could see spirits all around her we'll find out she had a crisis of faith, but we won't see a scene like that till like 2020 if it's even a twinkle in Zack's eye right now.

Which sucks.
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