SPIDER-MAN: HOMECOMING Plot Details

>>88382917
I'd feel like the movie is shit, desu.

>>88382917
>>Opening flashbacks to CAPTAIN AMERICA: CIVIL WAR, with Peter Parker being picked up by Happy Hogan to go to Germany and being given a new suit; and then being dropped off back at home by Tony Stark after the airport battle and told he's not an Avenger, but is being allowed to keep the new suit.
Tony really is taking the coward's path, isn't he? He's not actually towing the line of pro-reg, he's just going along to get along, and projecting the image of legality, while covertly letting a kid be a vigilante on the side, and all the while, Cap sticks up for what he believes, and ends up a fugitive for it..

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>Peter gets into his first fight with the Vulture and loses. Stark tells him to let it go and alerts Peter he's not being pursued by the Accords because he's keeping his head low and only dealing with bank robbers and alleyway muggers, and if he tries to breach out to enhanced people the government will crack down on him.

>Peter, Ned, Michelle, Liz, Flash and Liz's best friend Betty Brant go to Washington, D.C. for the academic declathon, where Peter gets into another fight with the Vulture and his men on a highway, which segues into a battle at the place where the declathon is being held. Peter is pursued by the police while trying to save his classmates.

>At some other point, the Vulture fights Spider-Man again and uses one of his gang's alien weapons to breach the hull of a cruise ship, which Spider-Man holds in place. The order in which those scenes happen is obviously not very clear at this point.

>It all culminates with Ned finding out who Peter is, and Peter losing several chances to be with Liz, who appears interested in him.

>Toomes figures out Peter's identity and has no respect for handling a kid. Vulture and Shocker eventually figure out who Peter is and attack Midtown during the homecoming dance, leading to a big fight in which Peter manages to barely defeat them using his old homemade suit, with none of the bells and whistles that Stark added to it when he recruited Peter to fight Captain America.

>Peter ends up going to the dance with Michelle, who arrives all dolled-up and turns out to actually be pretty cute. Door left open for a bigger relationship between them in the sequel, and Ned also scores Betty, while Liz ends up with Flash.

>Mason is arrested, so is Shocker, Vulture's death up in the air (on one side, that sweet Sinister Six money, on the other, that costly Michael Keaton salary). Either way Vulture acknowledges Peter is a good adversary.

>>88382917
Is Daredevil gonna get a namedrop?

>>88382979

Cause he's 15

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>Peter proves himself to Stark by taking down Mason and a bunch of supervillains on his own, and Stark gets the Accords off his back by making him an on-call reserve member of the Avengers.

>Stark suits up to fly alongside Peter in the movie's final swing and provide a pretty money shot for every teaser, trailer and TV spot from here onto the release date.

>Relationship is not a big focus on the story, which is more concerned with Peter affirming himself as a man. The Peter/Michelle pairing is only alluded to, but might take a more prominent role in a sequel.

>Aunt May has a generally small role, giving Peter advice in times of need and chaperoning at the field trip to Washington, which puts her on the line of fire.

>The academic declathon team includes a bunch of classic comic book characters from Spider-Man's high school years including Cindy Moon, Sally Avril, Jason Ionello and Sean McKeever.

>Hannibal Buress, Selenis Levya, Martin Starr and Kenneth Choi are all playing staff members at Midtown High.

>>88383009
Tony is a piece of shit in the MCU this is in character

>>88383224

Netflix is a parallel universe

>>88382979
Because he hasn't even finished going through puberty. Having a kid like that on their roster would be a PR nightmare and make them seem as creepy as Batman and Robin.

>>88382979
Because Scarlet Witch is a girl and girls can't do no wrong. And I'm not being sarcastic. I'm serious. I really think this needs to be brought up about how media and society treats girls like they're perfect things incapable of doing evil. It's even worse since many movies are okay with killing men, but won't dare hurt a villainous woman who is far worse than the men.

>>88383009
I more or less interpret this as Stark giving the kid a chance, letting him do his little thing so long as he's not too remarkable to the government. Stark seems to enforce a strong influence on him and he'd like to keep it long enough for Peter to grow and hopefully understand his point of view.

Or something whatever. I'm tired of justifying all these movies together.

>>88383133
So who doesn't know Peter's secret identity by the end of this movie?

>>88383009
It was made pretty clear that Tony doesn't actually believe in the law, he's just "getting in front of it," playing a long just enough so that it can be steered towards a good compromise rather than antagonizing the world's governments like Cap, causing them to draft and even more strict accord.

>>88382917
>>Peter is also acquainted to Michelle Gonzalez, a sarcastic outsider who secretly has feelings for him and hides them with hostily.

Tumblrs new favorite character I bet.

Then again every single female character from Marvel can be described as just sarcastic

Just drop Michelle and bring in Mary Jane for god sake. Nobody cares about Zendaya anyway

Shit. Complete shit.

>>88383133
>ulture and Shocker eventually figure out who Peter is

Press F at the end of the movie.

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>>88382917
>Flash Thompson is a wealthy, snobbish classmate of Peter's who's upset Peter often upstages him despite his poor upbringing and lack of dedication to schoolwork, which unknowingly to Flash is due to Peter's crimefighting activities.

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>>88382917
>Flash Thompson is a wealthy, snobbish classmate of Peter's who's upset Peter often upstages him despite his poor upbringing and lack of dedication to schoolwork
Big what the fuck right here

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Forgot to add, Toomes has been described as an "average joe with criminal tendencies" by the director, a longtime petty crook who believes Spider-Man is changing the rules of the game when it comes to street crime and convinces his pals to buy Chitauri-enhanced weapons technology from the Thinkerer to keep up with these changes and control New York City.

So there's

>Michael Keaton as Adrian Toomes / Vulture
>Booken Woodbine as Herman Schultz / Shocker #2
>Logan Marshall-Green as Shocker #1, real name unknown.
>Donald Glover as an unknown character, rumored to be Hobie Brown / Prowler.

Maybe one or two additional throwaway villains.

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>>88382917

It's going to be hilarious when this shit flops. Once again confirming why the man-children who still read comic books are barely more than marginalized caricatures of themselves. But instead of admitting you've become the most beta of betas, you'll complain for years how "good it was" and how "tasteless" the general public is in desperate attempts to try and divert away from the soul crushing realization that you've wasted your lives on mind-numbing drivel originally designed to entertain teenage boys.

>>88382979

Didn't Tony keep Wanda mostly on lockdown in civil war?

> and Tony Stark who is responsible for Ultron and all of the deaths that came with it.

I'll give you that though. The whole series is mostly based around Tony Stark not being able to do wrong. and Marvel wants to make action comedy first and drama second, so I doubt this will change.

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>>88383242
>Cindy Moon

>>88383526
>>88383647
You know that scene from the trailer where Peter is watching himself fight Giant-Man at school and a teacher interrupts him?

They showed the full scene at Comic-Con. Peter says he's paying attention, so the teacher (who's a genderswapped version of Miles Warren's brother, BTW) asks a very complicated science question of some sort. Flash eagerly answers and gives a very elaborated, clearly somewhat rehearsed answer that is wrong.

The teacher then refers to Peter, who just runs the math in his head real fast and gives the right answer without even having to pay attention. Peter then goes back to his books as Flash shoots him with death glares.

>>88383707
>this spider kid is changing the rules !
>What about Frank Castle
>Who?

Every warning sign is telling me "Michelle" is going to be important for this and every other Spider Man plot and it pisses me off

>>88383133
>Vulture and Shocker eventually figure out who Peter is and attack Midtown
DEAD MEN WALKING

>>88383769
anon isn't fucking with you anon. Cindy Moon is actually in here, which just goes to show how shit this movie will be.

Wonder how many dicks Slott had to suck to get her in?

>>88383822
>Peter is watching himself fight Giant-Man
Who was filming that?

>>88383840
Vigilantes with guns are not rule-changing. You can fight guns with bigger guns.

How do you fight superpowers? With bird-theme military-grade weapons tech pimped-out with alien scraps.

>>88383884

It was SHIELD

or HYDRA

or both

>>88383884
Security footage.

>>88383840
>Superhuman with enhanced strength, reflexes bordering on precognition, and can fire webbing stronger than steel cables
Im not saying Frank isnt a threat, because the lunatic is a walking one man army, but Im guessing most thugs would take their chances against a regular guy with guns. Its at least familiar to them

>>88383884
The Wasp

>>88383707
This Vulture reminds me a lot of Captain Cold. A small time crook who needs to up his game in this new world of superpowers and high tech gadgets.

>>88383869
Oh is /co/ pretending to give a shit about Cindy now? I lose track. Besides what does it matter? Shes not becoming Silk anyway

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>>88383242
>Cindy Moon

>>88382917
>...acquainted to Michelle Gonzalez, a sarcastic outsider who secretly has feelings for him and hides them with hostily.

A tsundere Mexican? Sounds interesting. Still won't see it.

>>88383133
the sokovia accords is not the superhuman registration act you dumb fuckers.

>>88382917
>Michelle Gonzalez

Wonder if they'll call her M.G.

>>88384134
Hes still an enhanced vigilante not sanctioned by any law enforcement or government

>>88384134
The Sokovia Accords weren't meant for just The Avengers. It applies to all enhanced people who take on threats outside of the law.

>>88384134
>HURR EVERY SUPERPOWERED PERSON THAT'S NOT WITH THE AVENGERS CAN STILL DO WHATEVER THEY WANT, THESE INTERNATIONAL LAWS DON'T APPLY

>>88384342

Agents of Shield is not canon.

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No front page material in this thread anywhere. All of this is garbage no one cares about. People want stories about someone people can relate to. What people want is J. Jonah Jameson.

Seriously any info if he's in this movie?

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>>88383707
>Toomes has been described as an "average joe with criminal tendencies" by the director, a longtime petty crook who believes Spider-Man is changing the rules of the game when it comes to street crime and convinces his pals to buy Chitauri-enhanced weapons technology from the Thinkerer to keep up with these changes and control New York City.

>>88384453
He is not.

>>88384438
AoS and the Netflix shows are canon. Shut the fuck up about claiming their not.

>>88383133
I really don't like the whole Michelle thing, but the original leaks said there actually was an MJ. Who knows until we actually see the movie.

>Vulture and Shocker find out Peter's identity
Yeah they're going to die

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>>88384504
I refuse to give this film money

>>88383707
>literal blind guy in a devil's costume going around manhattan beating the shit out of criminals
>giga nigga bulletproof black guy walks around harlem beating the shit out of criminals
>psychotic ptsd war vet whos family was murdered by criminals goes around nyc killing criminals

And Spider-Man is the only threat he has to worry about? I swear to god if the Netflix shows don't at least get a namedrop in Spider-Man Homecoming I'm gonna fucking flip a lid. These characters are literally BLOCKS away from each other.

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Might as well. Reminder given the nature of leaks we might be dealing with some bullshit 'round here.

>Months after saving Xandar, the Guardians of the Galaxy have become heroes for hire, and are employed to destroy an extradimensional monster, but nearly botch their mission due to their squabbling.

>The Kree empire has placed a bounty on their heads for the death of Ronan, and Yondu is betrayed by one his enforcers, Taserface, who seizes control of the Ravagers and seeks to capture the Guardians.

>The Guardians are hired by Ayesha, a member of an ancient race known as "The Eternals", to find a rogue member of their group, Ego. The Guardians are then attacked by the Ravagers and become separated, with Rocket and Baby Groot being captured by the Ravagers while Star-Lord, Gamora and Drax make it to the planet where Ego might be.

>They meet Mantis, a clairvoyant who is the planet's sole inhabitant. Star-Lord finds out Ego is an ancient force that inhabits the planet's core, filling it with life, and was also the "angel" that seduced his mother Meredith Quill during one of his many voyages through Space. Ego is therefore his father, and Mantis is his half-sister.

>Meanwhile, Rocket and Baby Groot come across Yondu and Nebula, who has also been captured by the Ravagers. They work together in order to escape.

>Ego convinces Quill that the Eternals are planning to conquer the galaxy and need to be stopped. Quill and Gamora discuss their blossoming relationship, and the team regroups to confront the Eternals.

>It turns out Ego has manipulated them and is the real menace, with the Eternals being the only ones standing on his way. The Guardians then rally to fight both Ego and the arriving Ravagers. The Kree empire and the Nova Corps become involved as well.

>Yondu sacrifices himself to destroy Ego, the Guardians save the Eternals, the Ravagers are betrayed by the Kree empire, and Mantis joins the team, while Nebula goes off on her own.

>>88384624
Its just as infuriating the other way around. People wont shut the fuck up about the devil of hells kitchen or a bulletproof black guy, yet fucking SPIDER MAN doesnt even get a mention? This is the problem with continuity and having so many NY based heroes. Fuck at least make a joke where Peter gets pissed being mistaken for Daredevil or something

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>>88382917
>>Peter and Flash begin competing for Liz's affections and both want to ask her to homecoming dance. They volunteer to join an academic declathon team to stay close to her, and Peter brings Ned along with him.

This is exactly what I worried about...

>>88384624
>I swear to god if the Netflix shows don't at least get a namedrop in Spider-Man Homecoming I'm gonna fucking flip a lid.

They won't. Better deal with it.

>>88382979
Because if Tony is responsible for getting a teenage boy killed, and even his caretaker didn't know about it, that would be an absolute nightmare for the Avengers.

>>88384730
how do you know this

>>88383438
Bring in MJ and Gwen fucking hell

>Make MJ and Gwen best friends that have a thing for peter
>MJ the party girl, while Gwen is the nerdy one
>make captain stacy a father figure to pete and dont kill him in 1 movie he shows up
>introduce harry and norman, make harry and pete slowly become friends, while norman can be a secondary antagonist that does shit behind the scenes, dont make him instantly the green goblin
>introduce other villains after vulture, like mysterio, hidro-man, morbius, venom, carnage, etc.,then reintroduce the other villains from previous movies, and later down the line make a sinister six movie, and hopefully a Maximum Carnage as well
>now on relationships, make peter and gwen a thing, an let them be in a relationship for more than 2 movies, let the audience be invested in them both, then after her death in the movie dothat scene where MJ goes to comfort peter and him being pissed at her, and in following movies build their relationship up until their eventual marriage
>maybe even do a clone saga movie
There, content for fucking years for people that dont read fucking comics and that can be somewhat faithful to them

>>88382917
Wow, this sounds awful. It's tied so much to CW that it doesn't feel like its own movie, and there's way too much Tony.

>>88384706
See its really fucking weird to have the Kree and never acknowledging the Skrulls, much less their war

>>88384756
>clone saga movie
>leads to Ben Reilly and Kaine movies.
I would like this.

>>88384756
But how do we write out Michelle?

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>Thor finds out that Loki usurped the throne of Asgard and has joined forces with Hela, queen of the underworld, to conquer the Nine Realms. He attempts to stop them, but is defeated by Hela's champion, Skurge, and Mjolnir is destroyed. Thor is then exiled to a faraway gladiator planed run by the Grandmaster, where he's enslaved and forced to fight in the arena.

>As Thor climbs the ranks of the gladiator matches, he befriends another warrior, the Valkyrie, and finds out the Hulk is the ruling champion, having also been exiled there by Loki for humilliating him during the Battle of New York. Hulk hasn't reverted to Bruce Banner for months and is more intelligence as a result. Thor and Hulk then join forces with the Valkyrie to escape from the Grandmaster and his forces and stop Loki and Hela.

>Hela betrays Loki and announces her plans to unleash the Ragnarok upon the Nine Worlds. She kills Heimdall, while Loki regroups with Thor and they go to Earth to find their father, Odin, whom Loki couldn't bring himself to kill and instead exiled there, for assistance. They are aided in finding him by Dr. Stephen Strange.

>Odin, who has been living as a vagrant, reveals that the only way to stop Hela is finding the Soul Stone. Thor and Hulk embark on a journey to retrieve it.

>Hela attempts to unleash the Ragnarok, freeing the fire demon Surtur, but Thor confronts him. Using the Soul Stone, he summons the fallen warriors of Valhalla, including Heimdall, to battle Hela's army of the undead. Odin, Loki, Hulk and Valkyrie also join the battle.

>Skurge realizes Hela has been manipulating him and holds off her army on his own, at the cost of his own life, to bid Thor enough time to defeat Surtur and use the Soul Gem to undo the damage Hela has wrought, banishing her back to her hellish kingdom and saving the Nine Realms.

>>88383133
Aha, but you missed a detail. We have a shot of Peter unmasked with a carnival going on behind him. Where does that take place?

>a lot of which is Chitauri weaponry salvaged from the Battle of New York

So we are stealing plots from Netflix and AoS now? They couldn't have come up with a different idea?

>>88383242
>>Stark suits up to fly alongside Peter in the movie's final swing and provide a pretty money shot for every teaser, trailer and TV spot from here onto the release date.
HAVE THEY LEARNED NOTHING ABOUT AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2?!

>>88384864
1. Don't let her find out he's spiderman.
2. Stress peter parker being spiderman first instead of being her boyfriend or w/e he is.
3. Have her break up with Peter because he doesn't have time for her.
4. Have the whole relationship be a learning experience for Peter and how he'll need to live his double life in the future.
5. They're fucking teenagers. Teenagers break up.

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>As the heroes celebrate and everything seems peachy, Loki betrays everyone (again) and escapes with the Soul Stone and the Tesseract, delivering them with Thanos in exchange for being pardoned for losing the Mind Stone to the Avengers. Thanos is about to finally get up from his rocket-powered chair and do some damage, and Loki weasels his way into becoming his advisor by telling him where the find the remaining stones, starting with the Eye of Agamotto in Strange's possession.

>Was Loki playing the long con to get back into Thanos's good graces, or could he be playing an even longer con to assist in Thanos's downfall from the inside? Find out in "Infinity War".

>>88384903
>Breaks Mjolnir
>No Beta Ray Bill
Trash

>>88384903
I'm down with this desu. Hopefully the things at the end with Skurge is similar to the comics.

>>88384864
>m: hey pete my family and I are moving to LA, lets keep in touch
>Pete: oh no, really, ok i'll call you everyday
>because of spidey bullshit and 2 new girls in his life, as well as michelles own life in LA the grow more and more apart
There, the script writes itself

>>88383430
There already is fanart of HUGE afro girl kissing downside Peter.

>>88383822
As long as Miles Warren isn't a female, I'm okay with that. Who cares about the brother.

>>88384964
So i guess we can confirm that Loki will be playing a similar part to Mephisto in Gauntlet?

>>88384964
Works for me. Doesnt surprise me that Loki is filling in for Mephisto in this story

>>88382917
>Flash Thompson is a wealthy, snobbish classmate of Peter's who's upset Peter often upstages him despite his poor upbringing and lack of dedication to schoolwork
>lack of dedication to schoolwork
Are they seriously turning Flash into a turbonerd

I seriously wonder the longevity of this new Spider-Man franchise. It almost seems like they're rushing to get out 6 films as fast as possible.

>>88384964
He's basically just taking Mephisto's place in Infinity Gauntlet, right? I'm down for that.

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>mfw we get Vulture
>mfw they won't even touch his aging and de-aging in the movie he'll just be a "regular guy"

>>88382917
>>88383133
So, how is it that Vulture keeps ending up in the same area as Peter's friends? Is it just coincidence? Because that feels really contrived.

>>88383707
>Forgot to add, Toomes has been described as an "average joe with criminal tendencies"
Are you fucking kidding me

>>88385131
>aging and de-aging
They've already skirted this stupid shit with characters like Magneto at Fox and Nick Fury at Marvel.
Because it is some dumb fucking shit.

>>88383647
yeah Flash being smart and wealthy is so very very very wrong

>>88384706
>Mantis is his half-sister.
We won't have kinky sex scenes with her then?
That's sad

>>88385131
That was never that big a deal with Toomes anyway. Hes mainly just been an inventor with a bird themed flight harness

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Fuck it, it's technically Marvel too.

>Years after the X-MEN: DAYS OF FUTURE PAST epilogue, mutants died out anyway, and the few that remain are being hunted down and experimented upon by Transigen, a secret government program headed by Dr. Zander Rice.

>Logan is living in New Mexico and working as a limo driver to cover the medical expenses of Professor Charles Xavier, who has dementia and is losing his memories and control of his telepathic powers. Caliban is Xavier's caretaker.

>Logan is asked to drive a package to a dropoff point to be picked up by a local gang, the Bombers. It turns out to be a little girl, Laura. Logan intervenes and kills several Bombers, until Laura reveals herself to have claws and kills many more. Logan is confused and takes her back to Xavier.

>Xavier figures out Laura is "very much like" Logan. Young mutants are a rare breed and the Bombers want to sell her in the black market. Xavier persuades Logan to instead escort Laura to a fabled safe haven for mutant refugees halfway across the country. Logan doesn't want to.

>Suddenly, they are confronted by the Reavers, cybernetically-enhanced mercenaries led by Donald Pierce, who have arrived to claim Laura for Transigen. Logan fights them off and begrudgingly agrees to help. Logan, Xavier and Laura escape, while Pierce captures Caliban and forces him to use his powers to sense other mutants's powers and locations to follow them.

>Logan, Laura and Xavier do some solid bonding and Logan and Xavier reaffirm their friendship before Xavier is killed in a Reaver ambush. Logan and Laura escape, and Logan finds out Laura is a clone of him created by Rice with DNA samples retrieved from the ruins of Weapon X. Laura is the only clone to survive and is their 23rd attempt at it, hence "X-23".

>>88385072
Yep. Flash shares nothing in common with his comics self other than that he's mean to Peter

>>88383707
Hold up, this is actually really close to the stupid idea that I pitched for Sinister Six.

That makes me really happy somehow.

>>88385209
WE better get Brock Venom then, I don't wan this Flash anywhere near it.

>>88383133
>>Peter ends up going to the dance with Michelle, who arrives all dolled-up and turns out to actually be pretty cute.


yeah that is certainly an original character and doesn't sound like MJ at all

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>The Reavers recapture Laura and kill Caliban. Logan tracks them down and slaughters them one by one until he's confronted by Pierce and Rice. They unleash the only other survivor of their experiments, X-24, an unstable adult male clone. A violent battle ensues in which Logan kills Pierce and then fights X-24, while Laura escapes and kills Rice, destroying the DNA samples.

>Logan sacrifices himself to destroy X-24 and bids farewell to Laura. Once they've both died, Laura, left as the sole survivor, continues her journey on her own, and ultimately makes it to the safe haven, which is run by former students of Xavier and Logan from the Xavier School for Gifted Youngsters and run by an older Kitty Pryde, where she can finally be free.

>>88385230
Honestly I think its best to hold off on Venom. Bring in Mysterio, Rhino, Kraven, or Scorpion.

>>88385265
>run by an older Kitty Pryde

FUCK THIS, STOP PUSHING KITTY

>>88385265
>X-24, an unstable adult male clone.
Oh shit, it's gonna be Daken right?

>>88385269
Sony already said they are working on Venom. Marvel is really pushing for him.

>>88383967
Yeah, if she was going to become Silk then she would have already become Silk. Since Cindy was retconned into being Peter's classmate, having her show up as a cameo in his high school movie is hardly egregious.

Better than turning Ned Leeds into Ganke at least.

>>88385282
im actually cool with this, mostly because i like ellen page and i wish she was in dofp more

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>cast perfect gwen
>is betty
REEEEEEEEE

>>88385358
Her powers made no sense in DOFP.

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>>88383242
>>Hannibal Buress ..... playing staff members at Midtown High.

Sounds good.

>>88384903
>Using the Soul Stone,
Where did he get that?

>>88385226
What was your idea?

>>88384964
Hmmm, I thought the point of Infinity Wars was a treasure hunt, but Thanos having two from the start kind of fast tracks everything.

>>88383707
>>Donald Glover as an unknown character, rumored to be Hobie Brown / Prowler.
I was hoping it'd be Aaron Davis so Disney/Sony have Miles as back up/reboot #4

>>88384926

But that makes perfect sense. Hundreds of aliens are beaten up all around NY, no doubt some of their weapons would be scavanged and reverse-engineered by someone.

>>88385389
>it makes no sense that a person who can phase through space could phase through time

>>88385390
I want all of his scenes shot with just him sitting in a chair zoning out.
>Vulture is fucking up Coney Island
>Children and faculty are running and screamming
>A single shot of Hannibal watching Peter fight Toomes
>"Hahaha! This sucks man"

>>88382917
>turn Ned Leeds into Ganke
>turn Flash Thompson into Harry Osborn
>make Iron Man his mentor
>movie about SPIDER-MAN, the quintessential NYC superhero, and set half the movie in WASHINGTON, DC
What in the absolute fuck is going on with this movie holy shit.

>>88385396

That will appear in the movie, I assume.

>>88384926
Well actually this first happened in an MCU short, then AoS, then Luke Cage

>>88385373
It's a recurring theme for Spidey films, consider the following:

>ASM
>cast perfect MJ
>Is Gwen

>Raimi Spider-Man
>cast perfect Peter
>is Eddie
>cast perfect Hobgoblin
>is MJ

>>88382917
>>88385455
Oh, I forgot to add:
>turn Vulture into Shocker with wings
>turn Shocker into henchman with laser gun
I'm not saying I was expecting comic accuracy since we've seen how they've changed stuff in the other movies, but at least the core of the characters is usually maintained.

>>88385455

TO BE FAIR, in the MCU, NY is a massive avengers stronghold and Peter wouldn't have much to do there when Thor and the likes are making the rounds, keeping NY safe. It makes sense for him to have to deal with villians that are more street level and it makes senses for villians to get away from NY, since it must be easier to do meta-human crimes outside it.

>>88385455
The general movie-going public sat through 5 Spider-Man films.

Changing the formula is not a bad idea.

>>88385528
>Shocker into henchman with laser gun
but that's wrong

If all this is true, why is Marvel going so far off script all of a sudden? Like, normally when a film goes way off script for a comic book film, people used to complain, but this is going all out.

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>>88385442
>not having him bustin' through

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>>88383242
>classic comic book characters from Spider-Man's high school years
>Cindy Moon

That set of words arranged in that specific way make me so much angrier than the fact that she is in the film.

>>88385561

But there's a point where it goes so off script that it doesn't make sense to complain about going off-script because clearly they never tried to stay on script to begin with.

>>88385585
Anon thats how he enters the classroom. He'll just sit there without saying a word for like an hour, then the bell will ring and he'll rip his shirt off screaming

>>88385373
>Angourie Rice
>gets RICED by Ned Leeds
Marvel poetry

>>88385561
Two reasons. First off, it's still technically Sony behind all of this even if Feige is there making sure it all gels with the MCU and they've proven themselves to be pants on head retard more often than not.

Second off, this is a post-Marvel Creative Committee movie. Everything up through Civil War had to go through the Marvel Creative Committee, whose job it was to make sure it all stayed on brand for the characters. Say what you will about the likes of Quesada and Buckley, but they're comic people and are just the right levels of nerd rage to keep some things from getting changed too much.

Feige doesn't give a flying fuck about changing shit though. He's first and foremost a movie producer. Not to mention, he was the movie producer that gave us Affleck's Daredevil.

>>88385599

I love Cindy but it's definitely funny saying it that way

>>88385752
Daredevil is underrated kino

>>88385793
anon, no.

>>88384914
The end.

>>88383133

>Vulture and Shocker eventually figure out who Peter is and attack Midtown during the homecoming dance, leading to a big fight in which Peter manages to barely defeat them using his old homemade suit, with none of the bells and whistles that Stark added to it when he recruited Peter to fight Captain America.

Please be real.

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>>88385793

>>88385752
>>88385561
>>88385608
I can't tell if this is a good or bad thing. People will get mad and "not muh", but going away from the comics means we get fresh and potentially good stories.

>>88385911
It is. You can even see it in the trailer.

>>88385752
There's nothing wrong with changing things after five movies of the same rehashed material. I like the idea of a different kind of movie that actually ties into the MCU.

>>88385939

No, actually it's bad, because what we really need is more things taking place in fucking New York

>>88385396
other leaks have stated that heimdall has the soul stone, allowing him to see across the realms and whatnot. It's probably bullshit but I guess it would make sense in a way

>>88386311

Asgard already had the Space and Reality Stones and set away the later because they didn't feel safe holding two of them in the same place.

Heimdall is definitely not hiding a third in his pocket.

Personally, i think the movie is gonna be great, the only thing i'm iffy is the michelle shit, i fucking hope shes not MJ, and is just an OC, do not steal, kind of situation

Also hope they tone done these cameos with ironman, leave that shit for the post credits scenes

>>88385752
>Affleck's Daredevil.

How that shit got made? Was the director first movie and Ben after Daredevil failure he still directed the Ghost Rider movie.

>>88384624
I feel like they're in a weird limbo spot where the movies are canon within the Netflix universe but Netflix Marvel may or may not exist within the MCU.

>>88383297
They mentioned the battle of New York and its effects in each of the Netflix series so far.

>>88382979
>still allows
she's not an Avenger post-civil war. she's with Cap's illegals

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>>88385809
>>88385919
with love from /tv/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIMVrX9CaVw

>>88383707
>NYC's criminal are buying and trading chitauri tech
the current state of the MCU is fucking perfect for Silvermane. I will be terribly disappointing if he isn't a major figure in any of the movies

>>88385245
it doesn't really. that's just a typical 'cleans up good' character. while MJ was an unseen girl covered in red flags that she was really ugly only to turn out to be an absolute bombshell.

>>88385209
I'm still holding out that when the sequel comes around they sent Tony Revolori to the gym from the day they finished filming, and have it that his dad sent him to a military school for a year before he'd let him go to college

>>88382979
Because he's a kid! Tony had no business bringing him to a veteran superhero throwdown.

>>88384073
All Mexican women are default tsunderes with risk of evolving into yandere.

Can confirm am Mexican man.

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>>88384514
>>88384624
I love the Netflix shows and AoS has really grown on me but I'm sorry to believe that this movie will basically confirm that they aren't canon.

I think the biggest mistake TV did was make the Inhumans a global issue adressed by the President yet having that have zero impact on the Civil War narrative.

Plus if none of the Netflix characters are alluded to in Homecoming that's the nail in the coffin for me.

My headcanon will just accept that AoS and Netflix Marvel happens in one of the many parallel universes mentioned in Doctor Strange and hope that someday there is a convergence of sorts.

>>88383009
>Tony really is taking the coward's path, isn't he?
true to the source material, eh

>>88388063
Its easier to believe that the Netflix shows are canon, AoS is pretty much a lost cause. Its getting to a point where both are seriously ignoring the elephant in the room. Im not saying they should all cross over or provide a headbanging "subtle" reference but Daredevil could honestly work outside Netflix along with Spidey

>>88386527
>Asgard already had the Space and Reality Stones and set away the later because they didn't feel safe holding two of them in the same place.
>
>Heimdall is definitely not hiding a third in his pocket.

You're using logic. That's a mistake since logic dictates that Thanos wouldn't give away one Infinity Stone as a minor tool in order to get another one, and yet he did.

>>88383242
Well if Silk in in this as a throwaway extra, that means no serious plans for Silk in the future.

Shame since apart from Slott's fuckery she's pretty qt

>>88383914
I'm not the only one that gets annoyed by this right?

When characters are watching footage from a previous movie and it's played off as security footage or news reel footage.

I think they did it before where they used a still of Hawkeye and Romanoff in some other movie.

Such lazy garbage.

How will this tie to IW? Thanos taking Death to the prom?

>>88384706
>Quill's surrogate dad sacrificing himself to stop his real dad
Yeah I can see that.

>>88388147
Its a throwaway persona but I think she works better as "Silkworm"

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>>88388196
worms are gross. she should be Knight Spider

>>88388109
Yeah the production quality and tone fit more, I just didn't want to annoy the butthurt AoS fans that bring up that biker gang and other subtle nods.

But despite getting entertaining AoS has overreached. Plus they've has embarrassing practical effects for Hyde and Lash and seem to be doing whatever they want with the Ghost Rider mythos so much so that I rather they be reintroduced.

>>88388225
Yeah but it helps distance herself from the spider family and it still plays with her power/theme.

>>88388244
I cannot tell you how disappointed I was when I heard Ghost Rider material was being regulated to AoS. Robbie is an alright character, and I dont think the show did him or the mythos any justice. It just seemed like one big waste despite the fun moments now and then. I seriously hope Blaze or Ketch get a movie

>>88383133
>Liz's best friend Betty Brant g

Except an adult has been cast as Brant, not a kid.

Fake.

>>88388366
Source

>>88388326
I was hoping for Ketch to somehow play a part in Doctor Strange as one of the better stories I read of GR when I was a kid was a crossover involving Nightmare and Doctor Strange.

Plus AoS seems to be dragging Blaze into its mythos so it will shit on it as well.

>>88388326
It the success of the Fast and Furious movies Marvel could make so,thing similar with Ghost Rider, they could use Johnny Blaze, Danny Ketch and Robbie Reyes in the same movie

>>88388470
I think Blaze is safe considering they've dropped the rider stuff and are moving on to LMD's, not to mention Johnny was never named exactly.
>>88388471
I was thinking Fury Road. It all depends if Disney wants to invest in a movie. Speaking of which, Robbie didnt really do a whole lot of riding did he?

>>88388063
The Inhumans have always been associated with the F4, if Fox has the movie/tv rights for the Skrull why not also,the Inhumans?

>>88388580
correction: FOX has Super Skrull, Marvel has generic Skrulls

>>88385135
Plot Twist! Vulture is hired by Stark to test Peter and see if he really has what it takes to join the big leagues.

>>88388615
Will the Skrull even appear in the MCU?

Did the GOTG make the Kree justice?

>>88388615
Thinking about it, Black Panther first appeared in the F4 comics.

>>88388634
the only Kree we really saw was Ronan,

>>88388663
And those weird priests, and that asshole ambassador on the space skype call. So where the Kree at war with both Xandar and the Skrulls?

>>88388650
The rights make no sense.
I mean Gunn couldn't use the Badoon because they were tied to Silver Surfer, and it's unclear if he can use the Kree's Supreme Intelligence.

It's all on a need to know basis that us plebs aren't privy to.

>>88388663
http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Kree

There is the black Kree, Korath.

>>88388160

Think things through for one moment. Peter was hyped as fuck to meet all those guys. He obviously put down a camera himself.

>>88383714
why are you here?

>>88389170
it's like people never heard of a Go Pro.

>>88388044
Yep, Can Confirm dated Mexican woman.
Too much Tsun, not even dere for me.

>>88382917
Great, so to get that sweet minority dollar they're race mixing Spiderman....and Ironman is in this. Why.

The only way I'd accept this is if he doesn' wind up with hispanic lady and she winds up being his friend, as was customary of early Spider-man, but then why the fuck is Betty Brant here? Betty Brant doesn't need to be white, tehy coulda done that if that was the case.

I really don't like anything I've reading about this movie besides the Vulture, and I think it's gonna wind up worse than Amazing Spiderman 2.

>>88383714
>DCucks everyone
Just wait for Wonder Woman to bomb mate. You don't have to wait too long.

This whole movie sounds no different than your average Disney sitcom pilot. You'd think they'd put more care into it but I guess they let the success go to their heads. People will buy tickets anyway, right?

>>88388244
>But despite getting entertaining AoS has overreached. Plus they've has embarrassing practical effects for Hyde and Lash and seem to be doing whatever they want with the Ghost Rider mythos so much so that I rather they be reintroduced.

Another reason you won't see AoS stuff in the MCU is because the main actress, Chloe Bennet bitched at Marvel Studios for both ignoring her show and the over abundance of white characters. If there was any chance it flew out of the window right there.

>>88384706
>>88385189
Gunn confirmed this as bullshit already

https://twitter.com/jamesgunn/status/768881244784332800

>>88383714
I can't believe people still don't recognize this as pasta.

>>88386311
Not even leaks, just a running fan theory.

>>88390537
>Two lucky guesses

Really makes you think.

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>>88383133
>Peter ends up going to the dance with Michelle, who arrives all dolled-up and turns out to actually be pretty cute

I'm not sold on that.

>>88385911
Nah, fuck this indentity revealed bullshit... This better not be true and if it is it better be something like the two villains find out its a teenager and then decide to crash the school to look for spiderman

>>88390046
>why the fuck is Betty Brant here?

the same reason that she was randomly in the Raimi films.

>>88392776
Nah, I mean, they're basically using sjw bait for what should be her role. When really they could make Betty latino and make the pandering less evident.

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>>88382917
The Avengers shitshow was four years ago and they're still referencing it?

Also, they already did this in pic related as well as Luke Cage

Just put some Netflix MCU references in there already

>>88385245
>Doesn't show up with a red dye-job and say something to the effect of "I never liked Michelle, you can call me MJ"
Everything worked out better than expected, assuming this is legit.

>>88392845
>The Avengers shitshow was four years ago

It was longer than that.

>they're still referencing it?

Thousands of alien soldiers and beasts dropped dead in the middle of Manhattan. It's totally plausible that a lot of shady people would get their hands on it and some of it would gravitate to other kinds of shady folks who'd be smart enough to research, reproduce and sell it to crooks to make a quick buck.

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>>88385358
>i like ellen page

>>88384903
>>88384706
>>88382917
What bugs me is that all of these sound so simplistic for the plot of the film, but then again, Dr. Strange ended up pretty simple too.

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>>88384073
>>88388044
>>88389969

>>88383371
I've got $100 that says you have an older sister who is the favorite child.

>>88390612
Michelle Obama? I'm not interested in seeing Petey with a black muscle tranny.

>>88383133
>cruise ship
This is how I can tell you've never been to New York.

>>88383133
I'm just saying, I don't know how you can go from Washington DC to the Staten Island Ferry. Hell, I doubt that Spider-Man holding the ship together will save if, and the more likely scenario is Iron Man or some rescue boat starts to get the passengers off of it.

>>88383297
>this tired ass meme

Just fucking kill yourself already

>>88390612
>the black chick is more ripped than the fucking superhero

>>88393742
>>88393775
A ferry makes more sense.

I really hope kraven will be the villain in the sequel

>>88394002
>He hasn't seen Tom

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>>88383263
>in the MCU
Tony is a piece of shit in general.

Who has more waifu potential /co/?

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>Peter loses out on the girl he wants because he picks a cape life over his life as Parker
>gets another "dolled up" girl anyway

How does Marvel manage to consistently miss the fucking point of their own lessons and arcs?

>>88395030
Fuck black chick
Marry blonde chick
Kill asian chick

>>88395072
They should just do the MJ thing already

>>88385358
>Ellen Page will play a role in The Last of Us: The Game: The Movie: The Comic: The Movie: Snikt Edition
Pottery.

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>>88388100
If he wasn't a duplicitous cunt he wouldn't be Tony Stark

So I don't know much about The Vulture, but why didn't his classic incarnation wear a mask? Most of Spider-man's rogue gallery did, but why not him?

>>88396185
Because he is a ugly old man, he is in fact the second villain to fight Spider-Man in the comics, the first is Chameleon.

>>88396185
>why didn't his classic incarnation wear a mask? Most of Spider-man's rogue gallery did, but why not him?

He had nothing to hide, apparently.

Doc Ock didn't wear a mask either. Nor did Sandman.

>>88382917
>>As Spider-Man, Peter is eager to prove himself as a hero, but ends up handling only low-level criminals
neato

>>88396332
Well, I know Doc Ock is an insane mad scientist type guy, and Sandman is already a convicted felon.

>>88396429
Electro usually kept the mask after his first arrest. It became mere style.