November 2016 Comic Book Sales Report - Top 300+'s

> 51. Hal Jordan and the Green Lantern Corps #8 (DC) - 45,194
> 52. Saga #40 (Image) - 44,944
> 53. Green Lanterns #11 (DC) - 44,703
> 54. Old Man Logan #13 (Marvel) - 43,609
> 55. Hal Jordan and the Green Lantern Corps #9 (DC) - 43,485
> 56. Black Panther #8 (Marvel) - 43,451
> 57. Green Arrow #10 (DC) - 43,355
> 58. Star Wars Poe Dameron #8 (Marvel) - 43,034
> 59. Old Man Logan #14 (Marvel) - 42,574
> 60. Green Arrow #11 (DC) - 41,576
> 61. Reborn #2 (Image) - 41,484
> 62. Batman Beyond #2 (DC) - 41,313
> 63. Avengers #1 (Marvel) - 41,258
> 64. Mother Panic #1* (DC) - 40,990
> 65. Infamous Iron Man #2 (Marvel) - 40,225
> 66. Aquaman #10 (DC) - 39,816
> 67. Justice League of America #10 (DC) - 39,766
> 68. Spider-Man #9 (Marvel) - 39,701
> 69. Deadpool Back In Black #3 (Marvel) - 39,509
> 70. Doctor Strange #14 (Marvel) - 39,390
> 71. Mighty Thor #13 (Marvel) - 39,274
> 72. Deadpool #22 (Marvel) - 38,630
> 73. Occupy Avengers #1 (Marvel) - 38,400
> 74. Aquaman #11 (DC) - 38,109
> 75. Supergirl #3 (DC) - 37,316
> 76. Deathstroke #6 (DC) - 37,177
> 77. Uncanny X-Men #15 (Marvel) - 36,946
> 78. Jessica Jones #2 (Marvel) - 36,893
> 79. Red Hood and the Outlaws #4 (DC) - 36,740
> 80. Deathstroke #7 (DC) - 35,782
> 81. All New Wolverine #14 (Marvel) - 35,437
> 82. Uncanny X-Men Annual #1 (Marvel) - 35,354
> 83. Batgirl #5 (DC) - 35,210
> 84. Ultimates 2 #1 (Marvel) - 34,646
> 85. Extraordinary X-Men #16 (Marvel) - 34,630
> 86. Daredevil #13 (Marvel) - 33,910
> 87. Deadpool Back in Black #4 (Marvel) - 33,457
> 88. Star Wars Force Awakens Adaptation #6 (Marvel) - 33,455
> 89. Harbinger Renegade #1* (Valiant) - 33,197
> 90. Batgirl and the Birds of Prey #4 (DC) - 33,138
> 91. Uncanny Avengers #16 (Marvel) - 32,854
> 92. Moon Knight #8 (Marvel) - 32,562
> 93. Mosaic #2 (Marvel) - 31,767
> 94. All New X-Men #15 (Marvel) - 31,668
> 95. Ad After Death Book 1 (Image) - 30,626
> 96. Doom Patrol #3* (DC) - 30,140
> 97. Superwoman #4 (DC) - 30,070

> 98. All New X-Men Annual #1 (Marvel) - 29,634
> 99. Doctor Strange Sorcerers Supreme #2 (Marvel) - 29,349
> 100. Great Lakes Avengers #2 (Marvel) - 29,273
> 101. Spider-Gwen #14 (Marvel) - 28,906
> 102. Hellblazer #4 (DC) - 28,882
> 103. Guardians of the Galaxy #14 (Marvel) - 28,405
> 104. Cyborg #4 (DC) - 28,303
> 105. Foolkiller #1 (Marvel) - 28,237
> 106. Seven To Eternity #3 (Image) - 26,669
> 107. Deadpool and Mercs For Money #5 (Marvel) - 26,591
> 108. Cyborg #5 (DC) - 25,772
> 109. New Super Man #5 (DC) - 25,378
> 110. Blue Beetle #3 (DC) - 25,300
> 111. Deadpool Too Soon #2 (Marvel) - 24,915
> 112. Gwenpool #8 (Marvel) - 24,395
> 113. Serenity No Power In The Verse #2 (Dark Horse) - 24,186
> 114. Uncanny Inhumans #15 (Marvel) - 23,798
> 115. Ms Marvel #13 (Marvel) - 23,621
> 116. Catwoman Election Night #1 (DC) - 23,561
> 117. Kill or Be Killed #4 (Image) - 22,889
> 118. Cage #2 (Marvel) - 22,647
> 119. New Avengers #18 (Marvel) - 22,522
> 120. Totally Awesome Hulk #12 (Marvel) - 22,448
> 121. Super Powers #1 (DC) - 22,282
> 122. Captain America Sam Wilson #15 (Marvel) - 22,006
> 123. He Man Thundercats #2 (DC) - 21,991
> 124. Scooby Apocalypse #7 (DC) - 21,983
> 125. Black Widow #8 (Marvel) - 20,947
> 126. Uncanny Inhumans #16 (Marvel) - 20,318
> 127. Mighty Morphin Power Rangers #9 (Boom) - 20,298
> 128. Moonshine #2 (Image) - 20,217
> 129. Cave Carson Has a Cybernetic Eye #2* (DC) - 20,096
> 130. Power Man and Iron Fist #10 (Marvel) - 19,934
> 131. Future Quest #7 (DC) - 19,910
> 132. Captain Marvel #10 (Marvel) - 19,893
> 133. Betty & Veronica #2 (Archie) - 19,794
> 134. Outcast By Kirkman & Azaceta #23 (Image) - 19,556
> 135. Shade The Changing Girl #2* (DC) - 19,526
> 136. Spider-Man 2099 #17 (Marvel) - 19,271
> 137. Raven #3 (DC) - 19,154
> 138. Snotgirl #4 (Image) - 19,025
> 139. Silk #14 (Marvel) - 18,987
> 140. Monstress #8 (Image) - 18,830
> 141. Black Monday Murders #4 (Image) - 17,718
> 142. Prowler #2 (Marvel) - 17,617

> 143. Dark Knight III Master Race 6 Coll. Ed. (DC) - 17,506
> 144. Carnage #14 (Marvel) - 17,306
> 145. Thunderbolts #7 (Marvel) - 17,269
> 146. Death of Hawkman #2 (DC) - 17,061
> 147. Spawn #267 (Image) - 16,976
> 148. Faith #5 (Valiant) - 16,463
> 149. X-Men 92 #9 (Marvel) - 16,441
> 150. Spider-Woman #13 (Marvel) - 16,386
> 151. Squadron Supreme #13 (Marvel) - 16,309
> 152. Southern Bastards #15 (Image) - 15,554
> 153. Dc Comics Bombshells #19 (DC) - 15,452
> 154. Bitch Planet #9 (Image) - 15,304
> 155. Wicked & Divine #23 (Image) - 15,238
> 156. Spidey #12 (Marvel) - 15,213
> 157. Earth 2 Society #18 (DC) - 15,181
> 158. Empress #7 (Marvel) - 14,882
> 159. TMNT Ongoing #64 (IDW) - 14,875
> 160. Buffy the Vampire Slayer Season 11 #1 (Dark Horse) - 14,855
> 161. Goddamned #5 (Image) - 14,375
> 162. Violent Love #1* (Image) - 14,246
> 163. TMNT Universe #4 (IDW) - 13,769
> 164. Lady Mechanika La Dama De La Muerte #2 (Benitez) - 13,668
> 165. Scarlet Witch #12 (Marvel) - 13,207
> 166. Archie #14 (Archie) - 13,169
> 167. Invader Zim #15 (Oni) - 13,048
> 168. Midnighter and Apollo #2 (DC) - 13,029
> 169. Black Hammer #5 (Dark Horse) - 12,950
> 170. Unbeatable Squirrel Girl #14 (Marvel) - 12,933
> 171. Wwe Then Now Forever #1 (Boom) - 12,925
> 172. Revolution #4* (IDW) - 12,853
> 173. Solo #2 (Marvel) - 12,723
> 174. New Talent Showcase #1 (DC) - 12,451
> 175. Gotham Academy Second Semester #3 (DC) - 12,304
> 176. Injustice Gods Among Us Year Five Annual #1 (DC) - 12,227
> 177. Josie & The Pussycats #2 (Archie) - 12,224
> 178. My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic #48 (IDW) - 11,865
> 179. Ether #1 (Dark Horse) - 11,720
> 180. Revolution #5* (IDW) - 11,681
> 181. Serenity No Power In The Verse #1 (Dark Horse) - 11,596
> 182. Motor Girl #1 (Abstract) - 11,587
> 183. Invincible #131 (Image) - 11,579
> 184. Flintstones #5 (DC) - 11,552
> 185. James Bond #11 (Dynamite) - 11,340
> 186. Hellboy and BPRD 1954 #1 (Dark Horse) - 11,194

> 187. Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur #13 (Marvel) - 11,113
> 188. Kiss #2 (Dynamite) - 11,081
> 189. Rom #4* (IDW) - 11,051
> 190. Lost Boys #2 (DC) - 11,037
> 191. Mayday #1 (Image) - 10,769
> 192. Batman 1 Dir. Cut (DC) - 10,311
> 193. Suicide Squad Most Wanted #4 (DC) - 10,236
> 194. Transformers Till All Are One Revolution #1* (IDW) - 10,233
> 195. My Little Pony Friends Forever #34 (IDW) - 10,163
> 196. Lady Killer 2 #3 (Dark Horse) - 9,935
> 197. Animosity #3 (Aftershock) - 9,819
> 198. Green Valley #2 (Image) - 9,713
> 199. G.I. Joe Revolution #1* (IDW) - 9,683
> 200. Mask Mobile Armored Strike Kommand #1* (IDW) - 9,677
> 201. Cannibal #2 (Image) - 9,582
> 202. Rick & Morty #20 (Oni) - 9,378
> 203. Rom #5* (IDW) - 9,318
> 204. Batman 66 Meets Steed and Mrs Peel #5 (DC) - 9,223
> 205. Deadly Class #23 (Image) - 9,215
> 206. Patsy Walker AKA Hellcat #12 (Marvel) - 9,181
> 207. James Bond Hammerhead #2 (Dynamite) - 9,164
> 208. Enchanted Tiki Room #2 (Marvel) - 9,121
> 209. Star Trek Boldly Go #2* (IDW) - 9,012
> 210. Disney Frozen #2 (Joe Books) - 8,983
> 211. Savage #1 (Valiant) - 8,874
> 212. Back To The Future 1#4* (IDW) - 8,861
> 213. Deadly Class #24 (Image) - 8,757
> 214. Chew #60 (Image) - 8,719
> 215. Wacky Raceland #6 (DC) - 8,641
> 216. Godzilla Rage Across Time #4 (IDW) - 8,500
> 217. Conan The Slayer #5 (Dark Horse) - 8,326
> 218. Britannia #3 (Valiant) - 8,302
> 219. Aliens Life and Death #3 (Dark Horse) - 8,228
> 220. Tank Girl Gold #2 (Titan) - 8,225
> 221. Lucifer #12 (DC) - 8,133
> 222. Shipwreck #2 (Aftershock) - 8,130
> 223. Godzilla Rage Across Time #5 (IDW) - 7,950
> 224. Lumberjanes Gotham Academy #6 (Boom) - 7,919
> 225. Frostbite #3 (DC) - 7,914
> 226. Vigilante Southland #2 (DC) - 7,787
> 227. Doctor Fate #18 (DC) - 7,730
> 228. Scooby Doo Team Up #20 (DC) - 7,708
> 229. Jughead #11 (Archie) - 7,320
> 230. Nailbiter #26 (Image) - 7,239
> 231. Vampire Hunter D Message Mars #1 (Stranger) - 7,234
> 232. Bloodshot USA #2 (Valiant) - 7,210

> 233. Dark Souls Winters Spite #1 (Titan) - 7,198
> 234. Everafter From The Pages of Fables #3 (DC) - 7,182
> 235. Big Trouble Little China Escape New York #2 (Boom) - 7,144
> 236. Rick & Morty Lil Poopy Superstar #5 (Oni) - 7,141
> 237. Strange Fruit #4 (Boom) - 7,139
> 238. Star Trek Waypoint #2* (IDW) - 7,117
> 239. Dark Tower Drawing of Three Sailor #2 (Marvel) - 7,106
> 240. Transformers Till All Are One #5 (IDW) - 6,935
> 241. Cerebus In Hell # (Aardvark-Vanaheim) - 6,896
> 242. Marvel Tsum Tsum #4 (Marvel) - 6,846
> 243. Eclipse #3 (Image) - 6,818
> 244. Champions #1 (Marvel) - 6,772
> 245. Glitterbomb #3 (Image) - 6,742
> 246. Disney Princess #7 (Joe Books) - 6,695
> 247. Briggs Land #4 (Dark Horse) - 6,635
> 248. Black #2 (Black Mask) - 6,602
> 249. Jem & The Holograms #21 (IDW) - 6,581
> 250. Slam #1 (Boom) - 6,518
> 251. Moonshine #1 (Image) - 6,468
> 252. Doctor Who Supremacy of the Cybermen #5 (Titan) - 6,466
> 253. G.I. Joe A Real American Hero #234 (IDW) - 6,375
> 254. The Mummy (Hammer) #1 (Titan) - 6,343
> 255. Simpsons Comics #234 (Bongo) - 6,326
> 256. Disney Frozen #3 (Joe Books) - 6,225
> 257. Harrow County #18 (Dark Horse) - 6,118
> 258. World of Tanks #2* (Dark Horse) - 6,115
> 259. Bprd Hell On Earth #147 (Dark Horse) - 6,009
> 260. Tales From The Crypt #1 (NBM) - 6,007
> 261. Sonic The Hedgehog #288 (Archie) - 5,958
> 262. X-Files #8* (IDW) - 5,921
> 263. Doctor Who 10th Year Two #16 (Titan) - 5,921
> 264. Micronauts #7* (IDW) - 5,918
> 265. Doctor Who 12th Year Two #11 (Titan) - 5,842
> 266. Hadrians Wall #3 (Image) - 5,832
> 267. Sonic The Hedgehog #289 (Archie) - 5,768
> 268. Sixpack & Dogwelder Hard-Travelin Heroz #4 (DC) - 5,708
> 269. Futurama Comics #81 (Bongo) - 5,659
> 270. Clean Room #13 (DC) - 5,658
> 271. Rise of the Black Flame #3 (Dark Horse) - 5,641
> 272. Ninjak #21 (Valiant) - 5,640
> 273. Groo Fray of the Gods #3 (Dark Horse) - 5,575
> 274. Comic Book History of Comics #1* (IDW) - 5,573

HAHAHAHA THIS CHAMPIONS NUMBER

>>88370752
>that drop between Batman 10 and 11

King is finished

> 275. Adventure Time #58 (Boom) - 5,566
> 276. Tarzan on the Planet of the Apes #3 (Dark Horse) - 5,455
> 277. Namesake #1 (Boom) - 5,425
> 278. Surgeon X #3 (Image) - 5,347
> 279. Grand Passion #1 (Dynamite) - 5,336
> 280. Lake of Fire #4 (Image) - 5,258
> 281. Elfquest Final Quest #17 (Dark Horse) - 5,254
> 282. Lumberjanes #32 (Boom) - 5,253
> 283. Sheriff of Babylon #12 (DC) - 5,241
> 284. Alters #2 (Aftershock) - 5,224
> 285. Tarot Witch of the Black Rose #101 (Broadsword) - 5,181
> 286. Wayward #18 (Image) - 5,109
> 287. Sonic Mega Drive Next Level One Shot (Archie) - 5,099
> 288. Sonic Universe #92 (Archie) - 5,012
> 289. Revival #44 (Image) - 5,001
> 290. Ghostbusters International #11 (IDW) - 4,967
> 291. No Angel #1 (Black Mask) - 4,957
> 292. Cinema Purgatorio #7 (Avatar) - 4,946
> 293. Generation Zero #4 (Valiant) - 4,934
> 294. Doctor Who 9th #7 (Titan) - 4,928
> 295. Scooby Doo Where Are You #75 (DC) - 4,920
> 296. Spongebob Comics #62 (United Plankton) - 4,901
> 297. Disney Darkwing Duck #6 (Joe Books) - 4,901
> 298. Donald Quest #1 (IDW) - 4,886
> 299. Warhammer 40000 Will of Iron #2 (Titan) - 4,871
> 300. Uncle Scrooge #20 (IDW) - 4,799
> 307. Wrath of the Eternal Warrior #13 (Valiant) - 4,709
> 310. A&A #9 (Valiant) - 4,585
> 312. Spookhouse #2 (Albatross) - 4,547
> 316. Lady Death Zodiac #1 (Coffin) - 4,437
> 317. Zombie Tramp #29 (Action Lab) - 4,401
> 325. Rough Riders #7 (Aftershock) - 4,227
> 339. Grimm Fairy Tales Genesis Heroes Rising (Zenescope) - 3,917
> 340. Stargate Atlantis Gateways #1 (American Mythology) - 3,906
> 341. Voltron Legendary Defender #4 (Lion Forge) - 3,904
> 342. Grimm Tales of Terror Holiday Special 2016 (Zenescope) - 3,810
> 351. Voltron Legendary Defender #5 (Lion Forge) - 3,613
> 355. Red Dog #1 (451 Media) - 3,529
> 356. Disney Pirates of the Caribbean #2 (Joe Books) - 3,524
> 360. Evil Heroes #3 (Zenescope) - 3,457
> 361. The Forevers #2 (Black Mask) - 3,418
> 371. Simpsons Illustrated #26 (Bongo) - 3,185

TOP COLLECTED EDITIONS AND GRAPHIC NOVELS FOR NOVEMBER 2016
> 1. Paper Girls Vol. 2 (Image) - 10,480
> 2. Marvel Hip Hop Covers HC Vol. 1 (Marvel) - 10,041
> 3. DC Super Hero Girls Vol. 2 Hits and Myths (DC) - 6,296
> 4. Star Wars Darth Vader Vol. 4 End of Games (Marvel) - 5,691
> 5. Unbelievable Gwenpool Vol. 1 Believe It (Marvel) - 5,310
> 6. Sandman Overture (DC) - 4,677
> 7. DC Universe Rebirth Deluxe Edition HC (DC) - 4,174
> 8. Vision Vol. 2 Little Better Than Beast (Marvel) - 4,115
> 9. Moon Knight Vol. 1 Lunatic (Marvel) - 3,742
> 10. Deadpool V Gambit V Is For Vs (Marvel) - 3,473
> 11. Monstress Vol. 1 (Image) - 3,431
> 12. LCSD 2016 DC Universe Rebirth Deluxe Edition HC (DC) - 3,252
> 13. One Punch Man Vol. 9 (Viz) - 3,144
> 14. Hulk World War Hulk (Marvel) - 3,099
> 15. Wolverine Old Man Logan (Marvel) - 3,027
> 16. New Suicide Squad Vol. 4 Kill Anything (DC) - 2,958
> 17. LCSD 2016 Doctor Strange Oath Exclusive HC (Marvel) - 2,782
> 18. Flash Vol. 8 Zoom (DC) - 2,724
> 19. Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars (Marvel) - 2,597
> 20. Justice League Darkseid War Power of the Gods (DC) - 2,553
> 21. Nailbiter Vol. 5 Bound By Blood (Image) - 2,515
> 22. Deadpool & Cable Ultimate Collection Book 1 (Marvel) - 2,482
> 23. Captain America Winter Soldier Ultimate Collection (Marvel) - 2,450
> 24. Amazing Spider-Man Worldwide Vol. 3 (Marvel) - 2,437
> 25. Batman Dark Knight Returns Collectors Edition Box Set (DC) - 2,422
> 26. Paper Girls Vol. 1 (Image) - 2,421
> 27. Saga Vol. 6 (Image) - 2,388
> 28. Unbeatable Squirrel Girl Vol. 4 Kissed Squirrel Liked It (Marvel) - 2,387
> 29. Saga Vol. 1 (Image) - 2,366
> 30. Multiversity (DC) - 2,327
> 31. Legend of Zelda Legendary Ed Vol. 1 Ocarina Time (Viz) - 2,230
> 32. Astonishing X-Men Whedon Cassaday Ult Coll Book 1 (Marvel) - 2,138
> 33. Art of DC Comics Bombshells HC (DC) - 2,110
> 34. Walking Dead Vol. 1 Days Gone Bye (Image) - 2,103
> 35. Deadly Hands of Kung Fu Omnibus HC Vol. 1 (Marvel) - 2,064

> 36. Civil War II Amazing Spider-Man (Marvel) - 2,058
> 37. DC Comics Dark Horse Comics Justice League Vol. 1 (DC) - 2,015
> 38. Spider-Man Blue (Marvel) - 1,983
> 39. Gotham Academy Vol. 3 Yearbook (DC) - 1,929
> 40. Batman Detective Comics Vol. 8 Blood of Heroes (DC) - 1,887
> 41. Klaus HC (Boom) - 1,829
> 42. Tank Girl 2 Girls 1 Tank (Titan) - 1,799
> 43. Civil War II Choosing Sides (Marvel) - 1,790
> 44. Civil War II X-Men (Marvel) - 1,762
> 45. Uncanny X-Men Superior Vol. 2 Apocalypse Wars (Marvel) - 1,723
> 46. Astonishing X-Men Whedon Cassaday Ult Coll Book 2 (Marvel) - 1,640
> 47. Space Ghost New Ed (DC) - 1,635
> 48. Muhammad Ali HC (Dark Horse) - 1,602
> 49. Super Mario Adventures (Viz) - 1,602
> 50. Batman The Killing Joke Special Ed HC (DC) - 1,582
> 51. Carnage Minimum Carnage (Marvel) - 1,560
> 52. Disney Manga Nightmare Before Christmas HC Ltd Ed (Tokyopop) - 1,549
> 53. Green Lantern Corps Edge of Oblivion (DC) - 1,511
> 54. Saga Vol. 2 (Image) - 1,431
> 55. Marvel Masterworks Black Panther HC Vol. 2 (Marvel) - 1,422
> 56. Secret War (Marvel) - 1,410
> 57. Saga Vol. 5 (Image) - 1,409
> 58. Civil War II Kingpin (Marvel) - 1,407
> 59. War of Kings Omnibus HC (Marvel) - 1,396
> 60. Superman The Coming of the Supermen HC (DC) - 1,383
> 61. Marvel Masterworks Doctor Strange HC Vol. 7 (Marvel) - 1,382
> 62. Captain Marvel By Jim Starlin Complete Collection (Marvel) - 1,379
> 63. Mighty Thor Prem HC Vol. 2 Lords of Midgard (Marvel) - 1,376
> 64. Black Canary Vol. 2 New Killer Star (DC) - 1,364
> 65. Amazing Spider-Man By Jms Ultimate Coll Book 1 (Marvel) - 1,356
> 66. Walking Dead Vol. 26 Call To Arms (Image) - 1,352
> 67. Secret Invasion (Marvel) - 1,338
> 68. Flash HC Vol. 9 Full Stop (DC) - 1,336
> 69. Aleister & Adolf HC (Dark Horse) - 1,329
> 70. Northlanders Book 2 The Icelandic Saga (DC) - 1,315
> 71. Complete Elfquest Vol. 3 (Dark Horse) - 1,303
> 72. Batman Detective Comics HC Vol. 9 Gordon At War (DC) - 1,293

>>88370752
>> 47. Champions #2 (Marvel) - 49,733
So, when will muties get pushed again for flagship?

> 73. Mickey Craziest Adventures HC (IDW) - 1,293
> 74. Civil War II Gods of War (Marvel) - 1,282
> 75. Absolute Batman Year One HC (DC) - 1,281
> 76. Batman Arkham Knight Vol. 3 (DC) - 1,266
> 77. Fear Itself (Marvel) - 1,265
> 78. I Hate Fairyland Vol. 1 Madly Ever After (Image) - 1,262
> 79. Rocket Raccoon and Groot Vol. 2 (Marvel) - 1,242
> 80. American Monster Vol. 1 (Aftershock) - 1,236
> 81. Faith Vol. 2 California Scheming (Valiant) - 1,236
> 82. Creatures of the Night HC (Dark Horse) - 1,234
> 83. She Wolf Vol. 1 (Image) - 1,216
> 84. Who Killed Kurt Cobain Story of Boddah HC (IDW) - 1,206
> 85. Saga Vol. 3 (Image) - 1,206
> 86. Howard The Duck Vol. 2 Good Night Good Duck (Marvel) - 1,203
> 87. Outcast By Kirkman & Azaceta HC Book 1 (Image) - 1,197
> 88. Wicked & Divine Vol. 1 The Faust Act (Image) - 1,197
> 89. One Piece Vol. 80 (Viz) - 1,195
> 90. Superman The Golden Age Vol. 2 (DC) - 1,193
> 91. Superman The Man of Steel Vol. 9 (DC) - 1,185
> 92. Venom Space Knight Vol. 2 Enemies and Allies (Marvel) - 1,179
> 93. X-23 Complete Collection Vol. 2 (Marvel) - 1,164
> 94. Luke Cage Iron Fist and Heroes For Hire Vol. 1 (Marvel) - 1,162
> 95. Deadpool Kills Marvel Universe (Marvel) - 1,153
> 96. Dark Souls Breath of Andolus (Titan) - 1,153
> 97. Star Wars Episode III HC Revenge of Sith (Marvel) - 1,152
> 98. Adventure Time Original Islands (Boom) - 1,151
> 99. LCSD 2016 Outcast By Kirkman & Azaceta HC Book 1 (Image) - 1,150
> 100. Watchmen Noir HC (DC) - 1,149
> 101. Iron Man Demon In A Bottle (Marvel) - 1,138
> 102. Saga Vol. 4 (Image) - 1,135
> 103. Watchmen (DC) - 1,132
> 104. Tokyo Ghost Vol. 1 Atomic Garden (Image) - 1,126
> 105. Wolverine Old Man Logan Vol. 1 Berzerker (Marvel) - 1,120
> 106. Adventure Time Vol. 10 (Boom) - 1,104
> 107. Walking Dead Vol. 2 Miles Behind Us (Image) - 1,103
> 108. Thor Epic Collection When Titans Clash (Marvel) - 1,101
> 109. Sinestro Vol. 4 The Fall of Sinestro (DC) - 1,078
> 110. Lady Killer Vol. 1 (Dark Horse) - 1,072

> 111. Robin Vol. 3 Solo (DC) - 1,067
> 112. Squadron Supreme Vol. 2 Civil War II (Marvel) - 1,055
> 113. Avengers Epic Collection Once An Avenger (Marvel) - 1,053
> 114. Bleach Vol. 68 (Viz) - 1,047
> 115. Star Wars Heroes For New Hope HC (Marvel) - 1,042
> 116. Sensational She-Hulk by John Byrne Return (Marvel) - 1,032
> 117. Young Avengers by Heinberg and Cheung Complete Coll (Marvel) - 1,019
> 118. Descender Vol. 1 Tin Stars (Image) - 1,011
> 119. Ms Marvel Omnibus HC Vol. 1 (Marvel) - 1,010
> 120. Walking Dead Vol. 25 No Turning Back (Image) - 1,007
> 121. Black Panther Book 1 Nation Under Our Feet (Marvel) - 1,005
> 122. March Book 3 (IDW) - 997
> 123. Cyborg Vol. 2 Enemy of the State (DC) - 992
> 124. Spider-Man Deadpool Vol. 1 Isnt It Bromantic (Marvel) - 987
> 125. Runaways Vol. 1 Pride and Joy (Marvel) - 986
> 126. Batman Hush Complete (DC) - 963
> 127. X-Men Gambit and Wolverine (Marvel) - 961
> 128. Color Your Own Doctor Strange (Marvel) - 958
> 129. Wicked & Divine Vol. 4 Rising Action (Image) - 945
> 130. Drifter Vol. 3 Lit By Fire (Image) - 944
> 131. Doctor Strange Oath (Marvel) - 936
> 132. Wolverine Old Man Logan Vol. 2 Bordertown (Marvel) - 929
> 133. Halo Tales From Slipspace HC (Dark Horse) - 928
> 134. Star Wars Darth Vader Vol. 1 Vader (Marvel) - 927
> 135. Art of Marvel Studios Slipcase (Marvel) - 925
> 136. East of West Vol. 1 The Promise (Image) - 917
> 137. My Hero Academia Vol. 6 (Viz) - 911
> 138. Faster Than Light Vol. 2 (Image) - 901
> 139. Unbeatable Squirrel Girl HC Vol. 1 (Marvel) - 894
> 140. Teen Titans The Silver Age Omnibus HC Vol. 1 (DC) - 890
> 141. Batman Vol. 1 The Court of Owls (DC) - 885
> 142. Super Weird Heroes HC Vol. 1 (IDW) - 885
> 143. Monster Musume Vol. 10 (St. Martins) - 883
> 144. Chronicles of Conan Vol. 33 Mountain Where Crom Dwells (Dark Horse) - 881
> 145. Walking Dead Vol. 3 Safety Behind Bars (Image) - 879
> 146. Preacher Book 1 (DC) - 871
> 147. Wonder Woman 75 Box Set (DC) - 867

> 148. Marvels (Marvel) - 865
> 149. Lcsd 2016 Godkiller Deluxe HC (Black Mask) - 852
> 150. Sweet Tooth Deluxe Ed HC Book 3 (DC) - 852
> 151. Marvels Doctor Strange Art of Movie Slipcase HC (Marvel) - 848
> 152. Aquaman HC Vol. 8 Out of Darkness (DC) - 846
> 153. Richard Starks Parker The Outfit (IDW) - 842
> 154. DC Super Hero Girls Vol. 1 Finals Crisis (DC) - 834
> 155. Sonic Mega Man Worlds Unite Vol. 2 Broken Bonds (Archie) - 832
> 156. Moebius Library World of Edena HC (Dark Horse) - 829
> 157. Sandman Vol. 1 Preludes & Nocturnes New Ed (DC) - 819
> 158. Prince Valiant HC Vol. 14 1963-1964 (Fantagraphics) - 816
> 159. Copra Round Four (Bergen Street) - 811
> 160. Oz Wonderful Wizard of Oz (Marvel) - 810
> 161. Crossed Vol. 17 (Avatar) - 804
> 162. Tree Mail (Dark Horse) - 793
> 163. Guardians of Galaxy Prem HC Vol. 2 New Guard Wanted (Marvel) - 792
> 164. Watchmen Collectors Edition Box Set (DC) - 784
> 165. Shang-Chi Master Kung Fu Omnibus HC Vol. 2 (Marvel) - 784
> 166. Assassination Classroom Vol. 13 (Viz) - 780
> 167. X-Men Book 1 Complete Onslaught Epic (Marvel) - 777
> 168. Wolverine Old Man Logan Vol. 0 Warzones (Marvel) - 772
> 169. X-Men Bishops Crossing (Marvel) - 772
> 170. Godkiller Walk Among Us Complete Collection (Black Mask) - 770
> 171. Psycho Pass Inspector Shinya Kogami Vol. 1 (Dark Horse) - 761
> 172. Batman Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles HC (DC) - 751
> 173. Complete Suiciders The Big Shake (DC) - 751
> 174. Flash By Manapul & Buccellato Omnibus HC (DC) - 751
> 175. Walking Dead Compendium Vol. 1 (Image) - 747
> 176. Tokyo Ghost Vol. 2 (Image) - 741
> 177. Jojos Bizarre Adv Stardust Crusaders HC Vol. 1 (Viz) - 737
> 178. Civil War (Marvel) - 728
> 179. Sugar & Spike Metahuman Investigations (DC) - 727
> 180. LCSD 2016 Disciples HC Vol. 1 (Black Mask) - 721
> 181. Contest of Champions Vol. 2 Final Fight (Marvel) - 719
> 182. Mobile Suit Gundam Thunderbolt Vol. 1 (Viz) - 718

> 183. Batman Silver Age Newspaper Comics HC Vol. 3 1969-1972 (IDW) - 717
> 184. Captain Britain Legacy of Legend (Marvel) - 710
> 185. X-Men Complete Age of Apocalypse Epic Book 1 (Marvel) - 709
> 186. Mockingbird Vol. 1 I Can Explain (Marvel) - 707
> 187. Batman The Long Halloween (DC) - 706
> 188. Drax Vol. 2 Childrens Crusade (Marvel) - 696
> 189. Batman Vol. 3 Death of the Family (DC) - 692
> 190. My Little Pony Friends Forever Omnibus Vol. 1 (IDW) - 692
> 191. Lumberjanes Vol. 1 (Boom) - 691
> 192. Woods Vol. 5 (Boom) - 690
> 193. Flashpoint (DC) - 688
> 194. Spider-Man Complete Clone Saga Epic Book 1 (Marvel) - 687
> 195. Rick & Morty HC Book 1 (Oni) - 686
> 196. Batman Vol. 2 The City of Owls (DC) - 684
> 197. Low Vol. 1 The Delirium of Hope (Image) - 683
> 198. Platinum End Vol. 1 (Viz) - 683
> 199. Hellboy In Hell Vol. 2 Death Card (Dark Horse) - 681
> 200. Amazing Spider-Man By Jms Ultimate Coll Book 4 (Marvel) - 681
> 201. Rick & Morty Vol. 1 (Oni) - 680
> 202. X-Men Alpha Flight (Marvel) - 679
> 203. Spider-Man Complete Ben Reilly Epic Book 1 (Marvel) - 674
> 204. Descender Vol. 2 (Image) - 672
> 205. Low Vol. 3 Shore of the Dying Light (Image) - 672
> 206. Complete Peanuts HC Vol. 26 Comics & Stories (Fantagraphics) - 670
> 207. Alex + Ada Complete Coll Dlx Ed HC (Image) - 669
> 208. Vision Vol. 1 Little Worse Than Man (Marvel) - 663
> 209. 4001 Ad Beyond New Japan (Valiant) - 663
> 210. Mystique By Brian K Vaughan Ultimate Collection (Marvel) - 656
> 211. Infinity Gauntlet (Marvel) - 654
> 212. East of West Vol. 6 (Image) - 653
> 213. Lady Mechanika Vol. 1 Mystery of Mechanical Corpse (Benitez) - 650
> 214. Superman American Alien HC (DC) - 646
> 215. One Punch Man Vol. 1 (Viz) - 645
> 216. Y The Last Man Book 1 (DC) - 644
> 217. Locke & Key Vol. 1 Welcome To Lovecraft (IDW) - 644
> 218. Avengers Vs X-Men Vs AVX (Marvel) - 641
> 219. Marvel Masterworks Captain America Vol. 2 (Marvel) - 640

> 220. Black Butler Vol. 23 (Hachette) - 639
> 221. Spider-Man Vengeance of Venom (Marvel) - 639
> 222. Omega Men The End Is Here (DC) - 627
> 223. Amazing Spider-Man By Jms Ultimate Coll Book 3 (Marvel) - 627
> 224. Mass Effect Omnibus Vol. 1 (Dark Horse) - 625
> 225. Avengers Childrens Crusade (Marvel) - 625
> 226. Superman Red Son New Edition (DC) - 621
> 227. Moon Knight Vol. 1 From Dead (Marvel) - 620
> 228. Rat Queens Vol. 1 Sass & Sorcery (Image) - 617
> 229. Skydoll Spaceship (Titan) - 613
> 230. Deadpool & Cable Ultimate Collection Book 3 (Marvel) - 612
> 231. Injustice Gods Among Us Year One Complete Col (DC) - 606
> 232. Marvel 1602 (Marvel) - 602
> 233. Disney Rosa Duck Library HC Vol. 6 Universal Solvent (Fantagraphics) - 601
> 234. Walking Dead Vol. 4 Hearts Desire (Image) - 599
> 235. Star Trek Ongoing Vol. 13 (IDW) - 597
> 236. Deadly Class Vol. 1 Reagan Youth (Image) - 594
> 237. Haikyu Vol. 4 (Viz) - 592
> 238. Lumberjanes Vol. 2 (Boom) - 583
> 239. Sonic The Hedgehog Vol. 4 Control (Archie) - 573
> 240. Dragon Age Omnibus Vol. 1 (Dark Horse) - 572
> 241. Attack On Titan Anthology (Random House) - 568
> 242. Persona 4 Vol. 4 (Udon) - 567
> 243. Amazing Spider-Man By JMS Ultimate Coll Book 2 (Marvel) - 565
> 244. Neo Parasyte F GN (Random House) - 561
> 245. Dungeons & Dragons Shadows of the Vampire (IDW) - 560
> 246. Assassination Classroom Vol. 12 (Viz) - 558
> 247. Pokemon Pocket Comics Box Set (Viz) - 558
> 248. Wicked & Divine Vol. 3 (Image) - 556
> 249. Wicked & Divine Vol. 2 Fandemonium (Image) - 553
> 250. X-Men Complete Age of Apocalypse Epic Book 2 (Marvel) - 553
> 251. Bitch Planet Vol. 1 Extraordinary Machine (Image) - 551
> 252. Wuvable Oaf HC Blood & Metal (Fantagraphics) - 549
> 253. Star Wars Darth Vader Vol. 3 Shu Torun War (Marvel) - 548
> 254. Marvel Firsts 1970's Vol. 1 (Marvel) - 547
> 255. Star Wars Darth Vader Vol. 2 Shadows and Secrets (Marvel) - 543

>>88370964

> 256. Strawberry Shortcake HC Vol. 1 Return of Purple Pieman (IDW) - 541
> 257. Walking Dead Compendium Vol. 3 (Image) - 540
> 258. X-Force Cable Messiah War (Marvel) - 538
> 259. Harley Quinn Vol. 1 Hot In The City (DC) - 534
> 260. Daredevil Yellow (Marvel) - 534
> 261. Mike Nortons Battlepug HC Vol. 5 Paws of War (Dark Horse) - 533
> 262. Marvel Universe Guardians of Galaxy Digest Vol. 3 (Marvel) - 531
> 263. Spider-Man Complete Ben Reilly Epic Book 3 (Marvel) - 531
> 264. Avengers Forever (Marvel) - 530
> 265. Ult Comics Spider-Man By Bendis Vol. 1 (Marvel) - 530
> 266. Haikyu Vol. 5 (Viz) - 527
> 267. Batman Dark Knight Returns New Edition (DC) - 524
> 268. Ms Marvel Vol. 1 No Normal (Marvel) - 524
> 269. Johnny Red (Titan) - 523
> 270. Archie Giant Comics 75Th Anniv (Archie) - 521
> 271. Spider-Man Complete Ben Reilly Epic Book 2 (Marvel) - 518
> 272. Interviews With Monster Girls Vol. 1 (Random House) - 518
> 273. Secret Wars 2 (Marvel) - 517
> 274. Kabuki Library HC Vol. 4 (Dark Horse) - 515
> 275. X-O Manowar Vol. 12 Long Live The King (Valiant) - 514
> 276. Wytches Vol. 1 (Image) - 513
> 277. Kingdom Come (DC) - 511
> 278. X-Files (2016) Vol. 1 Revival (IDW) - 511
> 279. Unbeatable Squirrel Girl Beats Up Marvel Universe HC (Marvel) - 510
> 280. Walking Dead Vol. 17 Something To Fear (Image) - 507
> 281. Green Arrow An Adult Coloring Book (DC) - 504
> 282. Rachel Rising Omnibus SC (Abstract) - 503
> 283. Black Science Vol. 1 How To Fall Forever (Image) - 502
> 284. Batman Year One Deluxe SC (DC) - 500
> 285. Serpieri Collection HC Vol. 3 (Lo Scarabeo) - 500
> 286. Over The Garden Wall Miniseries (Boom) - 498
> 287. Outcast By Kirkman & Azaceta Vol. 1 (Image) - 497
> 288. Superior Spider-Man Vol. 1 My Own Worst Enemy Now (Marvel) - 495
> 289. Flash Vol. 1 Move Forward (DC) - 494
> 290. In Spectre Vol. 1 (Random House) - 494
> 291. Rat Queens Vol. 3 Demons (Image) - 492
> 292. V For Vendetta New Edition (DC) - 491

> 293. Theory of the Grain of Sand (IDW) - 486
> 294. Doctor Who 8th Matter of Life and Death (Titan) - 483
> 295. Xena Warrior Princess All Roads (Dynamite) - 482
> 296. Cells At Work Vol. 1 (Random House) - 481
> 297. Samurai Vol. 1 Isle With No Name (Titan) - 480
> 298. Punisher Franken-Castle (Marvel) - 478
> 299. Complete Voodoo HC Vol. 2 (IDW) - 474
> 300. Avengers Korvac Saga (Marvel) - 471
> 301. Naruto Itachi Story Novel Vol. 1 (Viz) - 474
> 304. Rocky Horror Picture Show Slim Ed (Caliber) - 465
> 306. Ghost & Lady Vol. 1 (Random House) - 463
> 308. Persona 4 Vol. 5 (Udon) - 456
> 310. Diary of A Wimpy Kid HC Vol. 11 Double Down (Abrams) - 453
> 311. Fire Force Vol. 1 (Random House) - 453
> 312. Tokyo Ghoul Vol. 1 (Viz) - 453
> 319. Hero Cats Vol. 4 World Tour (Action Lab) - 447
> 320. Ultraman Vol. 6 (Viz) - 444
> 321. Pokemon XY Vol. 8 (Viz) - 436
> 325. Is It Wrong Try Pick Up Girls In Dungeon Vol. 6 (Hachette) - 429
> 326. Seths Dominion HC (Drawn & Quarterly) - 428
> 329. Princess Jellyfish Vol. 3 (Random House) - 426
> 331. Nisekoi False Love Vol. 18 (Viz) - 425
> 338. Sword Art Online Girls Ops Vol. 3 (Hachette) - 417
> 341. Tokyo Ghoul Days SC Novel (Viz) - 412
> 343. Pokemon Pocket Comics XY (Viz) - 407
> 346. Betty & Veronica Fairy Tales (Archie) - 405
> 359. Please Tell Me Galko Chan Vol. 1 (St. Martins) - 390
> 360. Pokemon Omega Ruby Alpha Sapphire Vol. 2 (Viz) - 390
> 361. Cometbus 57 (Last Gasp) - 389
> 362. Lady Mechanika Vol. 2 Tablet of Destinies (Benitez) - 388
> 364. Miraculous Tales of Ladybug Cat Noir Vol. 2 Spots On (Action Lab) - 386
> 368. EC Johnny Craig & Al Feldstein Voodoo Vengeance HC (Fantagraphics) - 382
> 372. At The Shore (Consortium) - 379
> 378. Black Clover Vol. 3 (Viz) - 371
> 382. Bloodshot Reborn Dlx HC Vol. 1 (Valiant) - 370
> 383. Magia The Ninth Vol. 1 (St. Martins) - 369
> 384. Dragon Ball Full Color Freeza Arc Vol. 4 (Viz) - 367
> 385. Magi Vol. 20 (Viz) - 367

> 388. Disney Manga Kilala Princess Vol. 3 (Tokyopop) - 366
> 389. Danganronpa The Animation Vol. 3 (Dark Horse) - 366
> 393. Reminiscence Kwang Hyun Kim Freezing Illust SC (Udon) - 365
> 398. One Punch Man Vol. 2 (Viz) - 362
> 408. Re Monster Vol. 1 (St. Martins) - 353
> 410. Laid Waste (Fantagraphics) - 350
> 422. Blue Exorcist Vol. 16 (Viz) - 344
> 434. Food Wars Shokugeki No Soma Vol. 15 (Viz) - 336
> 449. UQ Holder Vol. 9 (Random House) - 325
> 455. Haganai I Dont Have Many Friends Vol. 14 (St. Martins) - 323


Note that the entries with asterisks are returnable.


>The aggregate totals and changes over time:

>TOP 300 COMICS UNIT SALES
November 2016: 7.65 million copies
Versus 1 year ago this month: -8%
Versus 5 years ago this month: +9%
Versus 10 years ago this month: -4%
Versus 15 years ago this month: +19%
NEW! Versus 20 years ago this month: -31%
YEAR TO DATE: 81.96 million copies, +1% vs. 2015, +24% vs. 2011, +9% vs. 2006, +34% vs. 2001

>ALL COMICS UNIT SALES
November 2016: 8.36 million copies
Versus one year ago this month: -6.09%
YEAR TO DATE: 90.83 million copies, +1.97% vs. 2015


>TOP 300 COMICS DOLLAR SALES
November 2016: $29.32 million
Versus 1 year ago this month: -16%
Versus 5 years ago this month: +20%
Versus 10 years ago this month: +19%
Versus 15 years ago this month: +58%
NEW! Versus 20 years ago this month: +7%
YEAR TO DATE: $315.65 million, -2% vs. 2015, +39% vs. 2011, +37% vs. 2006, +86% vs. 2001

>ALL COMICS DOLLAR SALES
November 2016 versus one year ago this month: -12.71%
YEAR TO DATE: +1.85%

>>88371022

>TOP 300 TRADE PAPERBACK DOLLAR SALES
November 2016: $8.71 million
Versus 1 year ago this month: +22%
Versus 5 years ago this month: +22%
Versus 10 years ago this month, just the Top 100 vs. the Top 100: +10%
Versus 15 years ago this month, just the Top 25 vs. the Top 25: -13%
YEAR TO DATE: $86.59 million, +5% vs. 2015

>ALL TRADE PAPERBACK SALES
November 2016 versus one year ago this month: +21.56%
YEAR TO DATE: +1.74%

>TOP 300 COMICS + TOP 300 TRADE PAPERBACK DOLLAR SALES
November 2016: $38.03 million
Versus 1 year ago this month: -9%
Versus 5 years ago this month: +9%
Versus 10 years ago this month, counting just the Top 100 TPBs: +12%
Versus 15 years ago this month, counting just the Top 25 TPBs: +58%
YEAR TO DATE: $401.62 million, unchanged vs. 2015

>ALL COMICS AND TRADE PAPERBACK SALES
November 2016 versus one year ago this month: -4.25%
YEAR TO DATE: +1.82%

>OVERALL DIAMOND SALES (including all comics, trades, and magazines)
November 2016: approximately $49.89 million (subject to revision)
Versus 1 year ago this month: +4%
Versus 5 years ago this month: +21%
Versus 10 years ago this month: +27%
YEAR TO DATE: $535.86 million, +2% vs. 2015

>RELEASES
New comic books released: 518
New graphic novels released: 436
New magazines released: 33
All new releases: 987

The average comic book in the Top 300 cost $3.92; the average comic book retailers ordered cost $3.83. The median and most common price for comics offered was $3.99.


Sauce: http://blog.comichron.com/2016/12/november-2016-comics-estimates-now.html


>>88370966
>readers
t. Xavier Lancel

And finally, this is John Jackson Miller's fulfillment of Jude Terror's request for comment regarding Rich Johnston's recent Twitter beef with Tom Brevoort over muh sales charts:

>I fully understand what Tom is referring to, as I have spoken to this point many times: the figures are certainly not a complete representation of all copies circulating in all markets. We don’t claim that they are. Rather, they estimate a specific thing: the number of copies Diamond shipped to its North American accounts in the calendar month.

>Those estimates do appear to be accurate, in that they conform with other information at our disposal; after after 2003 when the switch from preorder to Final Order reporting happened, the independent estimates by Comichron, CBR, and ICV2 converged. In a sense, we’re checking one another’s work, every single month.

>We also have a further aid in that we know from information Diamond has made publicly available the total number of copies shipped to North American accounts each month. Diamond provides monthly, year-to-year, and year-to-date percentage change figures every month for comics unit sales, and has also reported its overall sales on occasion (such as 98 million such copies in 2015 and 10.28 million copies in August 2016). Those two figures comport with one another precisely in the matrix of percentage-changes, as do other announced numbers; the monthly overall units figure Comichron reports is just a matter of algebra. This overall figure provides a further independent backstop, because adding all the Top 300 sales together tends to arrive at about 91% of the overall total, suggesting the rest are outside the Top 300.

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>>88370752
>> 1. Batman #10 (DC) - 120,901
>> 2. Batman #11 (DC) - 116,690
>> 4. All Star Batman #4 (DC) - 99,064
>> 7. Batman Annual #1 (DC) - 91,033
We already had this thread twice, but hey, it's nice to post this pic.

>>88371064

>So the comics-Diamond-shipped-in-the-month-to-North-America numbers are reliable and replicable measures, and worth reporting since they generally represent the lion’s share of print copies in circulation when it comes to periodicals; we just simply don’t say they’re everything (and certainly not with regard to graphic novels). Comichron’s ranking pages are quite specific in this regard, both in headings and the fine print sections at left, and we also have FAQ pages on what is and is not included in the figures Diamond is reporting. Such pages are here — http://www.comichron.com/faq.html — and here http://blog.comichron.com/2009/03/diamond-charts-primer-what-they-are-and.html. I’ve also written recently about the size of British sales and why historically they’ve never been included — and why to be of most use to the intended audience, Diamond’s North American retailers, it is probably advisable to keep them separate: http://blog.comichron.com/2016/11/primer-uk-and-europe-comics-sales-and.html

>And this is the important thing to remember: since indexed sales charts began appearing in 1984, the intended audience for them has always been retailers, allowing them to gauge their sales levels on titles relative to the national average. Including anything beyond what it ships to North American comics shops makes the charts of lower utility in that regard; that’s why the inclusion of Loot Crate data was problematic, since it made the charts less a direct reflection of comic shop ordering.

>>88371064
>Rich Johnston's recent Twitter beef with Tom Brevoort over muh sales charts
Screenshots pls? I want to see thsee fedora fatsos melting down.

>>88370752
>Champions #2 (Marvel) - 49,733
This is gonna hit 30k by issue 6

>>88371080

>On the other hand, one of the reasons consumers turn to estimates like ours is because they have a legitimate interest in knowing the minimum number of copies in circulation, in order to incorporate supply in secondary market decisions. Greater real-time transparency about supply certainly would have helped avoid some of the negative speculator market effects of the early 1990s. Quite a lot of Comichron’s traffic comes from collectors searching for initial supply data on comics both current and many years old. And we’ve long known that publishers themselves take an interest in what minimum sales levels are on one another’s titles, for their own planning purposes; much of the early “magic number” estimating of the Diamond and Capital City charts in the 1980s and early 1990s were done by publishers themselves, Marvel included.

>These are the uses this statistic is best suited for, and which I most encourage; I ensure that Comichron pays very little mind to the “horse race” elements and almost no attention to cross-time trends on individual titles, for which the noisy comics-shipped data is less well suited. As Tom — and many other publisher representatives — have said before, the portion of sales reported by Diamond is only one factor in the health or future of an individual title, and not necessarily always the decisive one. There’s no way to prevent others from putting the numbers to such uses — but all our caveats are there to be read and reprinted wherever the figures appear.

>And should publishers start regularly releasing more inclusive data, we will certainly publish that as well, alongside the North American shop figures that remain most relevant to retailers. Both would be of interest to a wide audience, particularly future comics historians.


>>88371066
>what are chart positions beyond 100

>>88371081
Wait for archive.is link

>>88371081
>>88371104
http://archive.is/eqpfV

>>88371104
>what are chart positions beyond 100
Podiums have only three spots for a reason, OP.

>>88370752
> 16. Detective Comics #944 (DC) - 71,923
> 19. Detective Comics #945 (DC) - 69,942
Probably will settle around 40k.

>40. Teen Titans #2 (DC) - 52,877
>47. Champions #2 (Marvel) - 49,733
DoA.

>109. New Super Man #5 (DC) - 25,378
Ouch. I hope at least settle on 20k.

> 99. Doctor Strange Sorcerers Supreme #2 (Marvel) - 29,349
From 100k to 20k in just one month. Pretty impressive.

It's seems that all of DC books are slowly returning to their N52 numbers.

>>88371135
I could have replied to him:
>what is the thread search function
>what is desuarchive

Tom's "gems":
>That information isn't remotely accurate.
>Free order increases don't impact on rankings.
>So throwing stats that you don't have good info on at me in the hopes they'll change my business...
>...is ineffective. Maybe it makes you feel better to be saying something, but it's not convincing.

>>88371124
>Marvel selling like shit
>"T-THOSE SALES CHARTS ARE WRONG!"
Delicious Tom Brevoort tears.

>>88370752

Is this fan art or from a comic?

>>88370798
>Back To The Future 1#4*
Fucked up; should be #14*.

>>88370820
>Tales From The Crypt #1 (NBM)
Mistake from Diamond's part; should be Super Genius (an imprint of Papercutz).

Finally, those with "#" only are numbered zero.


>>88371500
From a comic called Batman: Gotham County Line (miniseries) and my edit specifically for this thread's theme.

> 187. Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur #13 (Marvel) - 11,113
> 206. Patsy Walker AKA Hellcat #12 (Marvel) - 9,181

How are these books still a thing? Seriously, no amount of digital sales could save these numbers.

>>88370752
> 1. Batman #10 (DC) - 120,901
> 2. Batman #11 (DC) - 116,690
Is it doing better than Snyder's or less?

>>88371546
They're for children.

> 84. Ultimates 2 #1 (Marvel) - 34,646
Ewing btfo

>>88371560
Less in terms of sales drop.

>>88370752
>walking dead is the best selling indie comic
>Batman is the best selling comic

Gotham Zombies when?

>>88370859
Good TPB sales for Marvel!

>>88371560
Less.

>2012 Sales Report
>Batman 13 DC 170,500
>Batman 14 DC 161,000
>Batman 0 DC 160,300
>Batman 15 DC 151,600
>Batman 5 DC 148,800
>Batman 8 DC 144,100
>Batman 9 DC 141,400
>Batman 6 DC 138,300
>Batman 10 DC 136,900
>Batman 7 DC 136,700
>Batman 11 DC 134,400
>Batman 12 DC 126,800

>>88370752
Huh, at least the bleed for each month between Rebirth titles seems to be slowing down. Superman was at 69K last month right?

>>88370774
>> 99. Doctor Strange Sorcerers Supreme #2 (Marvel) - 29,349
That's why we can't get nice things

>>88372144
Waifufag pls.

>>88371500
Batman: Gotham County Line, three issues only. Some serial killings are happening and Batman investigates. Lots of zombies and such, pretty funny read.

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> 132. Captain Marvel #10 (Marvel) - 19,893

Marvel """"""wonder woman""""" at her best

>>88372271
You'll see when her new #1 gets 500k copies ordered!

>>88372284
>500k copies
How many of them free?

>>88370859
>Unbeatable Squirrel Girl Vol. 1 Squirrel Power 6,838 (2015)
>Unbeatable Squirrel Girl Vol. 1 Squirrel Power 514 (Jan 2016)
>Unbeatable Squirrel Girl Vol. 1 Squirrel Power 428 (May 2016)
>Unbeatable Squirrel Girl Vol. 1 Squirrel Power 482 (July 2016)
>Unbeatable Squirrel Girl Vol. 1 Squirrel Power 567 (August 2016)
>Unbeatable Squirrel Girl Vol. 1 Squirrel Power 576 (September 2016)
>Unbeatable Squirrel Girl Vol. 1 Squirrel Power 389 (October 2016)

>Unbeatable Squirrel Girl Vol. 2 Squirrel You Know Its Tru 3,199

>Unbeatable Squirrel Girl Vol. 3 Squirrel Really Got Me No 2,340

>>Unbeatable Squirrel Girl Vol. 4 Kissed Squirrel Liked It (Marvel) - 2,387

What do we do to combat this, /co/?

>>88371153
>It's seems that all of DC books are slowly returning to their N52 numbers
They are actually doing worse and the bimonthly books are really hurting the monthly books.

>Red Hood And The Outlaws (2011) #4* - 39,850
>Red Hood And The Outlaws (2016) #4 - 36,740

>Supergirl (2011) #3* - 45,706
>Supergirl (2016) #3 - 37,316

>Teen Titans (2011) #2* - 72,107
>Teen Titans (2016) #2 - 52,877

>Batgirl (2011) #5* - 51,327
>Batgirl (2016) #5 - 35,210

>>88372299
Probably half. And other half will be locked to variants.

>>88372341
If that makes you happy...

>06/2016: Batman #1 -- 308,396 (+ 44.9%) [332,281]
>07/2016: Batman #2 -- 194,816 (- 41.4%)
>07/2016: Batman #3 -- 185,833 (- 4.6%)
>08/2016: Batman #4 -- 168,284 (- 9.4%)
>08/2016: Batman #5 -- 156,356 (- 7.1%)
>BATMAN #6 (DC) - 138,853
>BATMAN #7 (DC) - 135,585
>Batman #8 (DC) - 129,837
>Batman #9 (DC) - 126,090
>Batman #10 (DC) - 120,901
>Batman #11 (DC) - 116,690
Will King finally kill the Batman?
Find out in 6 months if sales don't slow the fuck down.
------
>08/2016: Harley Quinn #1 -- 395,953 (+771.3%)
>08/2016: Harley Quinn #2 -- 128,316 (- 67.6%)
>HARLEY QUINN #4 [*] (DC) - 73,678
>HARLEY QUINN #3 [*] (DC) - 81,635
>Harley Quinn #5* (DC) - 62,943
>Harley Quinn #6* (DC) - 58,827
>Harley Quinn #7 (DC) - 56,878
>Harley Quinn #8 (DC) - 54,111
So when will Dick get a second book since he's selling as much as Harley right now?
----
>08/2016: All Star Batman #1 -- 318,283
>ALL STAR BATMAN #2 [*] (DC) - 137,748
>All Star Batman #3* (DC) - 106,905
>All Star Batman #4 (DC) - 99,064

>>88372341
The whole industry is dying anon. Last year's November had 4 weeks and did 4% better in sales, in comparison with this year's 5 week November. Marvel with their shitty marketing tactics, variants, SJW pandering etc, and the even worse quality on writing is killing the entire industry.

>>88372341
It depends on the books actually. Some are doing better, some are doing the same, some are worse.

>08/2016: Rebirth #1 -- 195,587 (+677.3%)
>08/2016: Suicide Squad #1 -- 239,439 (+ 22.4%)
>SUICIDE SQUAD #2 [*] (DC) - 89,575
>SUICIDE SQUAD #3 [*] (DC) - 82,623
>Suicide Squad #4* (DC) - 69,385
>Suicide Squad #5* (DC) - 63,472
>Suicide Squad #6 (DC) - 61,973
>Suicide Squad #7 (DC) - 59,452
Lee is gone off the book by now, right?
----

>07/2016: Rebirth #1 -- 195,402 (+178.4%) [201,613]
>07/2016: Justice League #1 -- 230,106 (+ 14.1%)
>08/2016: Justice League #2 -- 140,142 (- 39.1%)
>08/2016: Justice League #3 -- 121,812 (- 13.1%)
>JUSTICE LEAGUE #4 [*] (DC) - 94,548
>JUSTICE LEAGUE #5 [*] (DC) - 89,342
>Justice League #6 (DC) - 89,073
>Justice League #7 (DC) - 85,789
>Justice League #8 (DC) - 80,696
>Justice League #9 (DC) - 77,905
-----

>08/2016: Rebirth #1 -- 124,088
>SUPERGIRL #1 [*] (DC) - 90,247
>Supergirl #2* (DC) - 45,692
>Supergirl #3 (DC) - 37,316
If the art weren't shit half the time I might give a fuck about this book.
Too bad Lupa is pulling fill ins on this and Superwoman

>>88372451
>The whole industry is dying
Meme eternal.

>08/2016: Rebirth #1 -- 109,250 (+431.3%)
>08/2016: Deathstroke #1 -- 91,962 (- 15.8%)
>DEATHSTROKE #2 [*] (DC) - 55,343
>DEATHSTROKE #3 [*] (DC) - 49,916
>Deathstroke #4* (DC) - 42,521
>Deathstroke #5* (DC) - 39,144
>Deathstroke #6 (DC) - 37,177
>Deathstroke #7 (DC) - 35,782
-----
>07/2016: Rebirth #1 -- 140,631 (+491.8%)
>07/2016: Nightwing #1 -- 126,266 (- 10.2%)
>08/2016: Nightwing #2 -- 102,444 (- 18.9%)
>08/2016: Nightwing #3 -- 89,711 (- 12.4%)
>NIGHTWING #4 [*] (DC) - 64,229
>NIGHTWING #5 (DC) - 69,938
>Nightwing #6 (DC) - 69,246
>Nightwing #7 (DC) - 58,402
>Nightwing #8 (DC) - 56,091
>Nightwing #9 (DC) - 52,984
-----

>CYBORG REBIRTH #1 [*] (DC) - 64,169
>CYBORG #1 [*] (DC) - 56,280
>Cyborg #2* (DC) - 37,797
>Cyborg #3* (DC) - 32,505
>Cyborg #4 (DC) - 28,303
> Cyborg #5 (DC) - 25,772

>06/2016: Rebirth #1 -- 98,580 (+275.0%) [123,115]
>06/2016: Flash #1 -- 110,431 (+ 2.7%) [126,429]
>07/2016: Flash #2 -- 113,639 (- 10.1%)
>07/2016: Flash #3 -- 107,067 (- 5.8%)
>08/2016: Flash #4 -- 102,208 (- 4.5%)
>08/2016: Flash #5 -- 91,830 (- 10.2%)
>FLASH #6 (DC) - 82,930
>FLASH #7 (DC) - 78,057
>Flash #8 (DC) - 76,749
>Flash #9 (DC) - 74,311
>Flash #10 (DC) - 70,681
>Flash #11 (DC) - 68,304
----
>06/2016: Detective Comics #934 -- 106,239 (+176.0%) [121,314]
>06/2016: Detective Comics #935 -- 103,417 (- 6.9%) [112,965]
>07/2016: Detective Comics #936 -- 110,689 (- 2.0%)
>07/2016: Detective Comics #937 -- 101,389 (- 8.4%)
>08/2016: Detective Comics #938 -- 97,829 (- 3.5%)
>08/2016: Detective Comics #939 -- 89,612 (- 8.4%)
>DETECTIVE COMICS #940 (DC) - 80,897
>DETECTIVE COMICS #941 (DC) - 82,953
>Detective Comics #942 (DC) - 81,432
>Detective Comics #943 (DC) - 74,340
>Detective Comics #944 (DC) - 71,923
>Detective Comics #945 (DC) - 69,942
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>06/2016: Rebirth #1 -- 130,277 (+115.7%) [138,031]
>06/2016: Superman #1 -- 115,918 (- 4.3%) [132,050]
>07/2016: Superman #2 -- 112,148 (- 15.1%)
>07/2016: Superman #3 -- 107,367 (- 4.3%)
>08/2016: Superman #4 -- 96,969 (- 9.7%)
>08/2016: Superman #5 -- 89,473 (- 7.7%)
>SUPERMAN #6 (DC) - 76,124
>SUPERMAN #7 (DC) - 72,867
>Superman #8 (DC) - 69,905
>Superman #9 (DC) - 67,321
>Superman #10 (DC) - 66,956
>Superman #11 (DC) - 63,686

>>88372341
Cont

I was just viewing the 2011-2012 sales reports and Rebirth isn't doing better than N52 which honestly disappointing.

Batman, GL, Aquaman and JL are doing worse and Tec, Superman, Flash and WW N52 sales are the same as Rebirth sales.

BOP is the only Rebirth book that doing better than N52.

>06/2016: Rebirth #1 -- 103,904 (+316.6%) [123,624]
>06/2016: Wonder Woman #1 -- 118,511 (+ 5.5%) [130,381]
>07/2016: Wonder Woman #2 -- 114,135 (- 12.5%)
>07/2016: Wonder Woman #3 -- 103,912 (- 9.0%)
>08/2016: Wonder Woman #4 -- 93,862 (- 9.7%)
>08/2016: Wonder Woman #5 -- 85,646 (- 8.8%)
>WONDER WOMAN #6 (DC) - 74,856
>WONDER WOMAN #7 (DC) - 70,118
>Wonder Woman #8 (DC) - 66,405
>Wonder Woman #9 (DC) - 64,555
>Wonder Woman #10 (DC) - 60,815
>Wonder Woman #11 (DC) - 58,692
----
>07/2016: Rebirth #1 -- 97,722 (+496.3%)
>08/2016: Red Hood & Outlaws #1 -- 92,234 (- 5.6%)
>RED HOOD AND THE OUTLAWS #2 [*] (DC) - 49,943
>Red Hood and the Outlaws #3 (DC) - 41,971
> Red Hood and the Outlaws #4 (DC) - 36,740
----

>07/2016: Rebirth #1 -- 125,362 (+579.1%)
>07/2016: Hal Jordan & GLC #1 -- 119,579 (- 4.6%)
>08/2016: Hal Jordan & GLC #2 -- 85,769 (- 28.3%)
>08/2016: Hal Jordan & GLC #3 -- 71,211 (- 17.0%)
>HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS #4 [*] (DC) - 54,815
>HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS #5 [*] (DC) - 50,935
>Hal Jordan and the Green Lantern Corps #6 (DC) - 49,988
>Hal Jordan and the Green Lantern Corps #7 (DC) - 48,064
>Hal Jordan and the Green Lantern Corps #8 (DC) - 45,194
> Hal Jordan and the Green Lantern Corps #9 (DC) - 43,485
---

>07/2016: Rebirth #1 -- 109,066 (+119.0%)
>08/2016: Batgirl & BoP #1 -- 83,481 (- 23.5%)
>BATGIRL AND THE BIRDS OF PREY #2 [*] (DC) - 49,166
>Batgirl and the Birds of Prey #3 (DC) - 40,041
>Batgirl and the Birds of Prey #4 (DC) - 33,138

>>88372581
>Batman, GL, Aquaman and JL
No shit Johns was on 3 of those. His name alone was moving numbers. Look at the Venditti and DCYou numbers for GL and Aquaman and we'll talk.

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>new sales chart
>Marvel is doing terribly
>some angry mousefag starts screaming that DC is dying
Every time.

>08/2016: Rebirth #1 -- 80,292
>BLUE BEETLE #1 [*] (DC) - 52,231
>Blue Beetle #2* (DC) - 33,454
>Blue Beetle #3 (DC) - 25,300
-------------------------
>06/2016: Rebirth #1 -- 79,295 (+477.8%) [100,610]
>07/2016: Titans #1 -- 112,676 (+ 12.0%)
>08/2016: Titans #2 -- 80,079 (- 28.9%)
>TITANS #3 [*] (DC) - 64,248
>Titans #4 (DC) - 58,342
>Titans #5 (DC) - 52,511
----------------------------------
>07/2016: New Super-Man #1 -- 129,452
>08/2016: New Super-Man #2 -- 79,774 (- 38.4%)
>NEW SUPER MAN #3 [*] (DC) - 41,796
>New Super Man #4 (DC) - 31,689
>New Super Man #5 (DC) - 25,378
------------------------
>Shade The Changing Girl #1* (DC) - 32,081
>Shade The Changing Girl #2* (DC) - 19,526

>Cave Carson Has A Cybernetic Eye 1* (DC) - 35,204
>Cave Carson Has a Cybernetic Eye #2* (DC) - 20,096

>DOOM PATROL #1 (MR) [*] (DC) - 76,225
>Doom Patrol #2* (DC) - 37,856
>Doom Patrol #3* (DC) - 30,140

>Mother Panic #1* (DC) - 40,990
The power of batfags

>06/2016: Action Comics #957 -- 82,884 (+136.1%) [95,893]
>06/2016: Action Comics #958 -- 83,227 (- 4.6%) [91,462]
>07/2016: Action Comics #959 -- 91,671 (+ 0.2%)
>07/2016: Action Comics #960 -- 83,281 (- 9.2%)
>08/2016: Action Comics #961 -- 79,003 (- 5.1%)
>08/2016: Action Comics #962 -- 70,761 (- 10.4%)
>ACTION COMICS #963 [*] (DC) - 60,824
>ACTION COMICS #964 (DC) - 58,439
>Action Comics #965 (DC) - 55,678
>Action Comics #966 (DC) - 53,467
>Action Comics #967 (DC) - 50,611
>Action Comics #968 (DC) - 48,931
-------------------------------
>06/2016: Rebirth #1 -- 109,454 (+232.2%)
>06/2016: Green Lanterns #1 -- 93,401 (- 1.5%) [107,767]
>07/2016: Green Lanterns #2 -- 90,268 (- 16.2%)
>07/2016: Green Lanterns #3 -- 86,579 (- 4.1%)
>08/2016: Green Lanterns #4 -- 78,254 (- 9.6%)
>08/2016: Green Lanterns #5 -- 70,677 (- 9.7%)
>GREEN LANTERNS #6 (DC) - 58,346
>GREEN LANTERNS #7 (DC) - 55,367
>Green Lanterns #8 (DC) - 52,025
>Green Lanterns #9 (DC) - 49,434
>Green Lanterns #10 (DC) - 46,306
>Green Lanterns #11 (DC) - 44,703
---------------------------
>06/2016: Rebirth #1 -- 89,936 (+373.0%) [97,243]
>06/2016: Green Arrow #1 -- 76,816 (- 4.4%) [92,931]
>07/2016: Green Arrow #2 -- 80,134 (- 13.8%)
>07/2016: Green Arrow #3 -- 80,150 (+ 0.0%)
>08/2016: Green Arrow #4 -- 74,335 (- 7.3%)
>08/2016: Green Arrow #5 -- 69,530 (- 6.5%)
>GREEN ARROW #6 (DC) - 55,330
>GREEN ARROW #7 (DC) - 52,794
>Green Arrow #8 (DC) - 48,904
>Green Arrow #9 (DC) - 46,606
> Green Arrow #10 (DC) - 43,355
>Green Arrow #11 (DC) - 41,576

>>88372482
I don't think the industry is dying, but I think we are headed for a downturn. Comics have always had ups and downs, and sales for the past few years have been going up and up.

It's also possible that digital sales account for more than we are aware of. But we will never know.

>>88372341
>>88372581
I'm honestly not surprised.

I have said before that rebrith has a bigger and better beginning than n52, but is bleeding sales faster than n52.

>>88372451
Last Year's November also had a shitton more Marvel #1s and has more goodwill
http://www.newsarama.com/25591-marvel-comics-november-2015-solicitations.html

>>88370774
>> 109. New Super Man #5 (DC) - 25,378
>> 110. Blue Beetle #3 (DC) - 25,300

I hope the bleeding stops for these titles otherwise we're fucked.

As if Nu52 and DCYou weren't proof enough all the people that cry about "WAHHH ENOUGH BATMAN GIVE US SOMETHING DIFFERENT!" don't actually buy comics

>07/2016: Batgirl #1 -- 105,795 (+299.3%)
>08/2016: Batgirl #2 -- 68,611 (- 35.1%)
>BATGIRL #3 [*] (DC) - 46,891
>Batgirl #4 (DC) - 40,778
>Batgirl #5 (DC) - 35,210
------------------------
>06/2016: Rebirth #1 -- 75,206 (+308.3%) [90,841]
>06/2016: Aquaman #1 -- 84,745 (+ 2.8%) [93,339]
>07/2016: Aquaman #2 -- 77,550 (- 16.9%)
>07/2016: Aquaman #3 -- 75,196 (- 3.0%)
>08/2016: Aquaman #4 -- 67,641 (- 10.0%)
>08/2016: Aquaman #5 -- 60,422 (- 10.7%)
>AQUAMAN #6 (DC) - 49,903
>AQUAMAN #7 (DC) - 47,005
>Aquaman #8 (DC) - 44,551
>Aquaman #9 (DC) - 42,695
>Aquaman #10 (DC) - 39,816
>Aquaman #11 (DC) - 38,109
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>07/2016: Rebirth #1 -- 84,404 (+437.7%)
>08/2016: Hellblazer #1 -- 65,707 (- 22.2%)
>HELLBLAZER #2 [*] (DC) - 40,749
>Hellblazer #3 (DC) - 33,596
>Hellblazer #4 (DC) - 28,882
-----

>Vigilante Southland #1 (DC) - 16,264
>Vigilante Southland #2 (DC) - 7,787

>Death of Hawkman #1 (DC) - 31,316
> Death of Hawkman #2 (DC) - 17,061

>Midnighter and Apollo #1 (DC) - 20,497
>Midnighter and Apollo #2 (DC) - 13,029

>>88370774
> 129. Cave Carson Has a Cybernetic Eye #2* (DC) - 20,096
> 135. Shade The Changing Girl #2* (DC) - 19,526

I'm honestly surprised more people are reading Cave than Shade, but sad that both are so low in the first place.

>>88370841
that stupid Archie issue absolutely killed Generation Zero

>05/2016: Scooby Apocalypse #1 -- 69,520 [77,409]
>06/2016: Scooby Apocalypse #2 -- 29,812 (- 61.5%)
>07/2016: Scooby Apocalypse #3 -- 29,494 (- 1.1%)
>08/2016: Scooby Apocalypse #4 -- 28,148 (- 4.6%)
>SCOOBY APOCALYPSE #5 (DC) - 26,170
>Scooby Apocalypse #6 (DC) - 23,781
>Scooby Apocalypse #7 (DC) - 21,983
-----------------------------------
05/2016: Future Quest #1 -- 48,627 [56,756]
07/2016: Future Quest #2 -- 30,170 (- 45.9%)
07/2016: Future Quest #3 -- 27,786 (- 9.5%)
08/2016: Future Quest #4 -- 25,472 (- 8.3%)
>Future Quest #5 (DC) - 23,975
>Future Quest #6 22,131
>Future Quest #7 (DC) - 19,910
-----------
>07/2016: Flintstones #1 -- 43,996
>08/2016: Flintstones #2 -- 19,612 (- 55.4%)
>FLINTSTONES #3 (DC) - 14,910
> Flintstones #4 (DC) - 12,740
>Flintstones #5 (DC) - 11,552

>>88370752
>> 40. Teen Titans #2 (DC) - 52,877
>> 41. Titans #5 (DC) - 52,511

> non-stop shill TT at the expense of Titans
> second issue numbers dropped to only 366 more than FIFTH ISSUE of Titans

you can't make this shit up

>08/2015: Bombshells #1 -- 59,253 [61,985]
>09/2015: Bombshells #2 -- 37,136 (- 39.8%) [37,306]
>10/2015: Bombshells #3 -- 32,147 (- 11.7%) [32,939]
>11/2015: Bombshells #4 -- 27,239 (- 17.3%)
>11/2015: Bombshells #5 -- 25,335 (- 7.0%)
>12/2015: Bombshells #6 -- 23,679 (- 6.5%)
>12/2015: Bombshells #7 -- 23,014 (- 2.8%)
>01/2016: Bombshells #8 -- 21,904 (- 4.8%)
>02/2016: Bombshells #9 -- 20,349 (- 7.1%)
>03/2016: Bombshells #10 -- 19,820 (- 2.6%)
>04/2016: Bombshells #11 -- 18,859 (- 4.8%)
>05/2016: Bombshells #12 -- 18,512 (- 1.8%)
>05/2016: Bombshells #13 -- 18,046 (- 2.5%)
>06/2016: Bombshells #14 -- 18,492 (+ 2.5%)
>07/2016: Bombshells #15 -- 17,956 (- 2.9%)
>DC Comics Bombshells #16 (DC) - 17,623
>DC COMICS BOMBSHELLS #17 (DC) - 16,685
>DC Comics Bombshells #18 (DC) - 16,042
>Dc Comics Bombshells #19 (DC) - 15,452
>DC Comics Bombshells Annual #1 (DC) - 16,469
>DC Comics Bombshells v1: Enlisted (DC) - 476 { 6561}
>>DC COMICS BOMBSHELLS TP VOL 02 (DC) - 456 {3148}
>Art of DC Comics Bombshells HC (DC) - 2,110
>the hip hop art selling x5 better
no
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>08/2015: E2 Society #3 -- 28,381 (- 10.6%) [28,671]
>09/2015: E2 Society #4 -- 25,443 (- 11.3%)
>10/2015: E2 Society #5 -- 23,459 (- 7.8%)
>11/2015: E2 Society #6 -- 21,948 (- 6.4%)
>12/2015: E2 Society #7 -- 21,059 (- 4.1%)
>01/2015: E2 Society #8 -- 19,682 (- 6.5%)
>02/2015: E2 Society #9 -- 18,868 (- 4.1%)
>03/2015: E2 Society #10 -- 18,391 (- 2.5%)
>04/2015: E2 Society #11 -- 17,844 (- 3.0%)
>05/2015: E2 Society #12 -- 17,492 (- 2.0%)
>06/2015: E2 Society #13 -- 17,430 (- 0.4%)
>07/2015: E2 Society #14 -- 16,960 (- 2.7%)
>08/2015: E2 Society #15 -- 16,885 (- 0.4%)
>EARTH 2 SOCIETY #16 (DC) - 16,025
>Earth 2 Society #17 (DC) - 16,822
>Earth 2 Society #18 (DC) - 15,181
IT'S DEAAAAAAAAD
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and all the vertigo books are still selling like shit or are dead

>>88372679
>>88372679
>but I think we are headed for a downturn.
In the floppies, yes. Trades are selling better and better every year. Just imagine though, how terrible this year would've been for floppies if DC hadn't relaunched.
I think we could see very big trade numbers in January. DC really fucked up, they should've released some of the trades on Christmas and New Year. Also I hope they do some promotion for Rebirth trades, which I haven't seen much lately.

>>88372789
Guess people didn't like Damian kidnapping everyone to be his friends :(

>>88372789
Turns out people want Wally, not Damian being shit and 3 people being on the same team they've been on for 30 fucking years.

>>88372581
GL doing worse is not surprising. Johns was in the ending of his 8+ year run of GL so going from that to Venditti who most people are not liking already, doesn't translate well for his new book for sales.

>>88372707
Both are minority and Giffen is on Blue Beetle. New Super-Man could realistically hover around 20k + for a while before dipping in the dangerous territory. Pray the trade sells for that book is big. Giffen being on Blue Beetle means it would at least last for 2 years, no matter how shit the sales get.

>>88372823
So, What if the big 2 only keep the trades and makes all of their books just digitals since the floppies are dying? Would that actually works?

>>88372516
Hopefully Deathstroke levels off around 30k. Priest is doing good work on there and I'd like to see him continue.

>>88372788
I'm actually impressed with the sales of Future Quest and Scooby. They seem to have found their own audience. Although they do have shit ton of variants but still.

>>88372908
Floppies are still more profitable than trades.

>>88372873
And when they're removed from team, people ask/beg for them to return to Titans.
EVERY FUCKING TIME.

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>>88372789
>>88372873
Evey thread

>>88372908
It's not like floppies aren't unprofitable anon.

>>88372789
>book with Nightmeme and Wally selling barely like a comic with literally who

Woah, what a victory!
Better replace Barry and Bruce with these high profile characters!

>>88372908
THERE ARE NO ADS IN TRADES AND DIGITALS.

How can you people not comprehend this?

>>88372341
Most of RHATO audience are only reading digital ver and some are waiting for the trade.

Supergirl isn't going to be a bigger seller no matter how hard DC is trying.

Batgirl is simply boring and TT is a dying franchise and putting Damian in it didn't help.

Though, I do think that DC shouldn't continue with double shipping for long.

>>88372908
Digital is like 10% of floppies

And there are no ads on digital

And they have to split the earnings with like a thousand other companies

So no it wouldn't work

f disney and wb made a site like comioxlogy that they wouldn't have to share and dc and marvel would get all the profits is like the only thing that would be somewhat profitable
And they don't care about comics, and the cost of ruining such a site would probably be quite expensive and not worth it

>>88373127
Nice meme
No one cares about RHATO, it just has a very obnoxious and vocal small fanbase

>>88373127
>Most of RHATO audience are only reading digital ver and some are waiting for the trade.
Jasonfag pls
Your fellow Jasonfags are loud and don't buy comics

>>88373172
>Digital is like 10% of floppies
I really doubt it's that high.

>>88373172
They can put ads on digital and it will have a bigger audience if the floppies are dropped.

>>88372341
RHATO is suffering from Lobdell's previous garbage.

Supergirl - TV show never translates to comic sales (even Flash needed Rebirth plot to be successful)

Batgirl needs to be crippled already

Teen Titans - Nobody cares about Damian's whiny life.

>>88372823
>Just imagine though, how terrible this year would've been for floppies if DC hadn't relaunched.

There were hints of that. This was from January of this year, months before Rebirth:

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/01/27/retailers-complain-about-collapsing-marvel-and-dc-sales/

Retailers Complain About Collapsing Marvel And DC Sales

Vernon Wiley of The Comix Gallery in Illinois writes to a retailer-only board (reproduced here with permission),

"Today I was looking for some feedback from those of you that have experienced a large shift in the big two’s sales as of late. While Marvel’s sales are ok, this has been truncated by the avalanche of product thats been sent to us this season. While I was a big DC store for over fifteen years, they have dramatically fell to third place here in about a year"

"It seems to me that Marvel is doing “carpet bombing” of all available dollars we and our customers spend, while DC doesn’t seem to have much of a clue on publishing popular comics. Now I realize some of you have shops that are pretty much mainstream and in high traffic tourist type areas that perhaps haven’t been affected much. Here though, the big 2’s sales have fallen off, and despite the gaps in publishing picked up by indie labels, hasn’t been enough to counter it in sales dollars."

>>88373189
>>88373206
All of the B-lister books are doing around 50k to 30k. His fans literally have nothing to worry about.

>>88373320
"Are any of your experiences similar? My shop has been open for over twenty years now, and I’ve never seen anything like this. I am hoping the heads at these publishers see the numbers and the way they are trending for many of us, and perhaps take some corrective measures. Phil, whose chain perhaps exemplifies health, has written frequently about their practices and long term outlook. I can’t imagine when a businessperson of his skill warns of declining cash flow for many of us that I am alone here. Perhaps. I’ll be awaiting February sales numbers from Diamond to see if this trend develops nationwide."

"So please chime in with your experiences and solutions on Marvel and DC’s long term efforts to right this ship. If of course, you believe the ships need guidance."

>>88373346
Cliff Biggers of Dr No’s in Georgia concurred, elaborating upon is response for Bleeding Cool,

“We’re seeing the worst falloff of Marvel and DC sales in the store’s 38-year history."

"Both companies are losing established readers who no longer feel that the company’s output reflects the sort of comics they enjoy. Stories are lackluster, unfocused, and excessively long as companies think in terms of collected editions, not individual issuees. The tone is mostly dark and uninviting."

"Deadpool and Harley Quinn are still very good sellers, showing that comics readers enjoy some funny in their “funny books”–but even those titles have softened a little bit because of character fatigue."

"The DC books generating the most excitement right now are Superman: Lois & Clark, Swamp Thing, and Justice League of America–three books that most closely evoke the tone and attitude of classic pre-Flashpoint DC (and two of those are written by veteran creators who worked on those books in the pre-Flashpoint days). These books look great and are excellent, entertaining reads."

"My Marvel readers are complaining about art this isn’t what they expect from a Marvel book. Cartoony art, manga-influenced art, quirky art… the concept of a house style is gone. The books that generate the most interest are books like Doctor Strange, All-New X-Men, Amazing Spider-Man, and (of course) Star Wars & Darth Vader–books that mix strong stories and great art."

>>88373333
>50k to 30k
You are being generous because they will all fall to 40k-30k next month.

>>88373372
"For the first time in store history, yesterday’s Marvel FOCs saw us ordering single digits on more than half of the line items in the Marvel section. Now, to be fair, that includes collected editions and 2nd printings, which boosted that single-digit title count, but it still included an inordinate number of ongoing titles. As recently as five years ago, there were no Marvel Universe titles that sold in the single digits for us. Quirky concept books like Starbrand & Nightmask or Moon Girl & Devil Dinosaur stumbled out of the gate for us."

"The most disturbing trend involves established readers who have sufficient disposable income that they can afford to buy what they like to read. A significant portion of these readers are trimming their title lists by 50% or more because they don’t enjoy the current output. When a dedicated DC customer who was buying EVERY New 52 title in 2011 and 2012 is now buying no DC titles, or a dedicated Avengers/Captain America/Iron Man/Thor customer has dropped all of these series, it’s troubling."

"We WANT Marvel and DC to succeed. We WANT to sell these books. We are NOT a preorder-only store–we order every title from Marvel and DC (as well as IDW, Image, Dark Horse, Dynamite, Boom, Valiant, Oni, AfterShock, and many other publishers) FOR THE SHELVES. But right now, the retailing challenge for many Marvel and DC is finding an eager audience for these new titles–and finding satisfying titles for established readers who enjoy classic DC and Marvel.”

>>88373376
Oh, I know. Nightwing already dropped to 40k.

>>88373449
Nightwing's still at 50K you mole.

>>88373333
Don't bother yourself with these trolls.

>>88372695
>I have said before that rebrith has a bigger and better beginning than n52, but is bleeding sales faster than n52.
I remember someone here made a comparison between N52 and Rebirth sales which showed that Rebirth is bleeding sales faster than N52. I will try to find it.

>>88370760
> 73. Occupy Avengers #1 (Marvel) - 38,400
> 84. Ultimates 2 #1 (Marvel) - 34,646
> 105. Foolkiller #1 (Marvel) - 28,237
> 109. New Super Man #5 (DC) - 25,378
> 151. Squadron Supreme #13 (Marvel) - 16,309
> 184. Flintstones #5 (DC) - 11,552

PANIC
A
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I
C

>>88371560
>116k
Snyder's run didn't get that low until the 20s and 30s issues
Soooooo it's less

>>88373632
Fucking Snyder sabotaged King's book, I just know it.

>>88373628
> 105. Foolkiller #1 (Marvel) - 28,237

Stealth mini from that start I see.

>>88373672
I was hoping we'd get a stealth maxi, not a stealth mini. A solid 10-12 issues. Depending on the dropoff for next issue (just look at Solo), it could end up being only 5-6 issues.

>>88371096
They are padding #3 sales.

>>88373628
New Super-Man spent to long focusing on Chinese knockoff league when they should have built a cast of original villains and support characters.

those have to be the worst selling Marvel #1's since the dark ages.

>>88373656
King sabotaged his own fucking book. He dumbed down his writing to appeal to the lowest common denominator of Batfag.

>>88373659
Everything above 15k at Marlel and 10k at DC is good.
>>88373719
No, it's Snyder's fault. We all know it's because he forced King to write Duke.

>>88373659
It's not that they are doing bad, anon. They are just not improving.

I at least hoped that Rebirth relaunch will improve the sales, but oh well.

>>88373711
I mean, I understand why they would be low. Foolkiller, like Slapstick and Solo, were never going to be high sellers. They probably based the copies ordered on how their Mercs for Money sales. Same with Ultimates 2 where they probably knew that no one that wasn't already reading Ultimates was going to care about it, so they just ordered slightly above what Ultimates would usually sell.

In fact, you see this with Champions, too. The Champions #2 sales are pretty much in-line with the ANAD Avengers sales were when it as cancelled. Meaning people aren't falling for the relaunch hype anymore and are just ordering the same copies of the books getting relaunched as before.

Which on one hand means that Marvel might back off of the seasonal model. But then the Top 10 is still filled with Marvel #1s so maybe not.

>>88373719
B-but king said that Batfans are the smartest!

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>>88370752
>6. Amazing Spider-Man Renew Your Vows #1 (Marvel) - 96,111
>23. Amazing Spider-Man #21 (Marvel) - 63,052
YES YESSSSS

>>88373737
>Everything above 15k at Marlel and 10k at DC is good.
"Good" is an exaggeration. Anything around 15k at Marvel or 10k at DC is as good as cancelled unless.

Anything above 25k at Marvel and 20k at DC is good. Those ones, as long as they keep those numbers consistent, aren't in danger of getting cancelled. It's when you fall into the 15-20k range and 10-15k range that the cancellation starts rapidly approaching.

>Champions #2 had a 85% drop
Fucking fantastic.

>>88373820
It's good if it's not cancelled, right?

>>88373659
A lot of people were under the mistaken impression that the industry was on a huge upswing by how well Rebirth was doing for the first few months, but now the Rebirth hype is starting to settle and Marvel is back to their usual antics. Marvel is doing a little bit worse than usual and DC is doing a little better than usual, but these sales are still getting dominated by Batman, events and #1s with a lot of the quality books on all sides lingering down in the sub-30ks.

Basically, the problem isn't that sales are BAD. They aren't. It's that NOTHING CHANGED.

>>88373603
You mean this post?

>Readers lost by end of month 4 of New 52 - 24,564

>Readers lost by end of month 4 in Rebirth - 37142

>Rebirth is bleeding more readers than New 52. The only reason it looks slower is because it's double shipped.

>>88373827
#1 sales never actually matter beyond as a judge of what the maximum it'll sell is in most cases. What you should be looking for is what the settling point is for sales. Let's see where it is around issue 4, by which point it should have settled if it isn't hemorrhaging readers each issue... which it probably will with how garbo it is.

>>88373947
>Rebirth is bleeding more readers than New 52. The only reason it looks slower is because it's double shipped.

Wouldn't this be the opposite? If you're counting it by months then of course the double shipped is going to have more losses. How does it look on an issue to issue basis?

>>88373777
Marvel needs to stop pussyfooting around with their seasonal approach if they're going to continue writing for trades either go all in or stop doing it. turn the entire line into a series of miniseries or stop slapping arbitrary #1s on issue #19s

>>88373777
>But then the Top 10 is still filled with Marvel #1s so maybe not.

Depends though, the reason they didn't relaunch all titles for Marvel Now 2.0 is likely because the relaunching didn't help sales for All-New All-Different. A lot of stuff dropped back to their previous sales level with the second and third issues.

If the #2-4s drop very drastically for the Marvel Now 2.0 launches, then they'd probably back off the seasonal model more.

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>>88373699

>>88374113
Amazing.

>>88374177
Just think, if one variant in Loot Crate was enough to get Big Trouble in Little China at the top of the chart, imagine what two variants in the Stan Lee Box could do!

>>88374010
I think the issue is that they don't have a core of books that DON'T get relaunched. I think people would be way more receptive to the "6-12 issue stealth minis getting released annually" thing if the core books (your Amazing Spider-mans, Avengers, Fantastic Four, Uncanny X-men, etc.) would go years without relaunching.

I actually like the idea of a "seasonal model" because it gives characters that otherwise would never get a chance at least a mini's worth of content with the potential of more than that. But then the issue comes up when you're constantly relaunching the books that collectors should feel safe in investing in.

>>88374201
Not much, because less people will get the Stan Lee Box. It's like twice as expensive as Loot Crate and isn't very well known since it's just starting.

>>88374221
I think the problem is that they've effectively devalued the numbering due to so many relaunches in the last 20 years. People on here used to claim the numbering doesn't matter, but I think the sales have shown it actually does; when you have too many #1s, who really cares at that point?

Honestly, how many of you will care if the Comic industry died?

>>88374436
>good riddance
This will be my reaction and I do enjoy some of them, but I will not miss them.

>>88374221

marvel seems to be moving towards that with giving books a big number 1 for story arcs.

>>88374436
Not really because they hardly offer anything new which is why they can't win new fans.

>>88374436
Well >>88374550
and >>88374649
will care despite pretending they don't.

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>>88374550

Why are you even here then? Fuck off shiteater.

>tfw when butthurt

>>88374675
No, I seriously wouldn't care. Let it die.

>>88374694
>Why are you even here then?
Because I enjoy some of the books? I literally said that in my post.

>>88374436
I am in the "let it die" camp.

>>88374743
No one believes you.

>>88373372
> Marvel readers are complaining about unfamiliar art

Who are they complaining about, the Allreds? New generations of comics artists are coming in all the time, I'm sure plenty of people hated the Lee/McFarlane/Liefeld craze back in the day.

Newsflash, idiots: MANGA SELLS. Don't be surprised if publishers try to put out books with a more manga-styled look to snap up some of that audience.

>>88375029
Since he's talking about Marvel early that year my guess is probably the art on Hellcat, Squirrel Girl, and some others. I got no real problem with them personally but I've noticed people complaining about them.

When Rebirth launched I saw a couple faggots buying multiple copies of #1 issues for each title. Where are those faggots now and why do they bother hoarding #1 issues for a title they refuse to support and will be re-launched and/or cancelled making their stack of #1 issues worthless anyway? It's the business model of an idiot.

>>88371581
Hellcat is not for children. It's for a woman child (the author) but not children children.

>>88375148
>LCS sell out of #1
>People didn't get a chance to buy it
>Sell it for a slightly increased price to these people
>Profit
That's what scalpers did here. And I fucking hate it. Some guy actually offered me $10 for my Batman Rebirth. Fuck some dude got $20 for his Variant Edition of DC Universe Rebirth #1, and those aren't incentivised!

>>88372908
I don't think this a bad idea and it might work.

>>88375335
>>88372908
If digital were selling vastly better than floppies you'd have a point but it's monumentally retarded to get rid of the format that sells the best in favor of one that's still not hitting high enough numbers.

>>88375116
Erica Henderson's art is pretty off-putting. She can obviously draw quite well, it's just that the way she draws faces makes everyone look like they just got smashed in the face with a boulder.

She's like Frank Quitely with less raw skill.

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>Thunderbolts bump

We did it, Songbirdbros!

>>88375116
Why do people give a fuck? It's not like you're reading those books, they're not even targeted at you.

>>88375661
Who knows? But I think if they had actually had a stronger core line there'd be less complaining about the more off-the-beat stuff.

> All these comics under 10,000

I dunno man, how do you as a creator wake up in the morning, know your comic is only being bought for a population of a small college campus to POTENTIALLY purchase, and think "I'm good at what I do?" I think these rankings should be setting a fire under these publishers and art teams asses.

>>88375779
For non-Marvel/DC titles, 10,000 is a good number. For Marvel/DC 10,000 is only acceptable if it's from the fringe line.

>>88373127
>Most of RHATO audience are only reading digital ver and some are waiting for the trade.
lol no, the "muh digital/trade wait" excuse might work for indie books or comics targeted at girls (who don't buy floppies). RHATO is neither, it's just another superhero book targeted at angsty teenage boys

>>88370787

> 145. Thunderbolts #7 (Marvel) - 17,269

Wish I could say that this book didn't deserve it but only the last two issues were even approaching decent, so good riddance.

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>>88370752
Why do comics sell so little? Majority of pic related titles have literally 3 days on sale

>>88375915
>the "muh digital/trade wait" excuse
What excuse? The book is around 30k which isn't bad at all.

RHATO '16 is just 3k less than '11 compared to TT, Batgirl and Supergirl which all having a big drop.

>>88376199
Much Larger market

>>88376199
Manga is ingrained in Japanese culture in a much bigger way. And they're cheap.

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>>88375915

>>88376215

And you get more for your money - most manga volumes are like 5 to 6$ for ~300 pages.

>>88376286
>Manga is ingrained in Japanese culture in a much bigger way.

It's mainly this.

>>88376199

> gay volleyball players
> number 1

also what's the source for these rankings I'd like to follow it.

>~300 pages.
Yeah, no. 180-200 at best and for weekly manga.

>>88376213
Red Hood is actually doing good and holding up as monthly book.

The rest are doing worse and especially TT.

>>88376322
>And you get more for your money - most manga volumes are like 5 to 6$ for ~300 pages

Wonder if that would work better? Say DC shoved all its weekly releases into one book every week and charged say $10 for it.

>>88376340
You'd think with all these superhero movies/TV shows everywhere same would happen to comics. Like fucking seriously just make them cheaper and promote them better you fucks.

>>88376384
How Trinity is doing compared to Batman/Superman?

>>88376344
>> gay volleyball players
>> number 1
It sells like 900k-1m a volume

>http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-12-07/japanese-comic-ranking-november-28-december-4/.109623

>>88372638
Man, as rough as those Young Animal numbers are, they are still doing a minimum 4 times better than any current Vertigo title

>>88376215
It's a much smaller market. They're just much better at getting the target demographics to buy.

>>88376419
> 31. Trinity #3 (DC) - 58,253

>>88376371
Yeah and monthlies up to about 240pp.

>>88376419
Went down 7K, not that huge a drop yet but it is bellow Batman and Superman

>>88376143
It's up from the last issue.

>>88376433
Yes they successfully target multiple demographics. Something US publishers have been failing at for a while now.

>>88376384
Why the monthly are suffering tho? Are the bimonthly are really hurting them?

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>>88376215
>>88376286
But you'd assume comics would sell more, these superheroes have movies all the time and the movies do good but nobody seems to care about the comics.

Is it lack of advertising? for example anime for the most part tries to adapt the manga, of course there are cases where it has an anime original ending or just original stuff but 80% it's faithful. So maybe it gets people interested in those series enough to read the books?

>>88376492

Yeah, but roughly between 1k and 2k and I doubt it will stabilize at this level with Malin coming back to shit up the art next issue.

>>88376546

You are unlikely to get movie fans to check out floppies but afaik DC & Marvel had more success with trades that were the source material for certain movies, provided that they did the reprints before the movie came out.

>>88376544
As newbie, I'm also wondering about this.

Why they are suffering?

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>>88376462
Eh no, I have quite a few monthly manga here and it's the same, around 180-200 pages counting preads.

>>88376416
A lot of stuff takes a while to develop. Busiek said this back in the mid-90's and reposted it in 2009:

http://busiek.com/site/2009/06/21/comics-as-a-mass-medium/

>A little more on the subject of bookstore distribution—Gary mentions in his address to retailers at Atlanta that we’re still waiting for that breakthrough, and that “everyone’s tried to crack the bookstore market and no one’s succeeded.” I think he’s wrong, because he’s looking for a breakthrough, a moment when the floodgates open and comics are suddenly, magically accepted by all. That didn’t happen, even in Japan, and it’s not going to happen here. The growth of the Japanese marketplace into adult acceptance took twenty years, and they started with a healthy children’s marketplace. We started with a ghettoized industry, so the fact that we’ve accomplished what we have in the last ten years is impressive. The gates opened a crack, a decade ago, and a toehold was established. Since then, comics have been trickling into bookstores against entrenched resistance. But there are more comics there today than there were then, and in many bookstores, graphic novels have been moved out of the humor section and into a graphic novel section, usually positioned next to the SF/fantasy section.

>>88376674
>People at DC tell me that their trade paperback program is growing, doing steadily better in that uncrackable bookstore market. That’s not a breakthrough of the sort we all hoped for, but it is progress. That handful of trade paperbacks in the humor rack expanded into enough to justify their own rack. And when and if that rack does enough business to justify divorcing it from the SF/Fantasy section, that’ll happen too.

And he actually was right, if you remember what it was like in 90's bookstores and compared it to the last 20 years there's a vast difference in how many graphic novels were carried.

Back in the 90's you'd see like maybe 10 graphic novels from DC and Marvel put somewhere in the SF/fantasy section. By the 00's Borders and Barnes and Noble devoted a whole shelf to them, or more. Back then you wouldn't think that non-Marvel/DC graphic novels would get stocked (usually it'd maybe be Maus or something) but it's common at Barnes and Noble now.

The only problem is that no one in the 90's saw Amazon and the internet becoming what it became. So now bookstores are struggling even though graphic novels are doing better.

>>88376544
>Are the bimonthly are really hurting them?
Yes, because they appear slower in comparison and the double shipping are taking a lot of the budget despite the 2.99 price.

>>88376544
>Are the bimonthly are really hurting them?
I guess it could speed up whatever natural decline there would already be. 5.98 a month on one book might be more than people are willing to spend when they can just trade wait.

>>88376544
>>88376664
I think I might know why. Hastings used to get their new comics from Diamond. It announce closures in July.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/06/16/hastings-owes-diamond-1-6-million-and-funko-2-5-million/

Since it was a chain store around the US it might've cause sales overall to take a hit.

>>88376546
Key word there is adapt. Anime audience is made up of manga readers and the anime-only crowd. If you read the manga can pick at the differences in the source material and complain about filler and the cool stuff they cut. If your first exposure is the anime you can pick up the manga if you want more stories about the characters you just watched.

Cartoons and movies based on comics are almost entirely new material. Some schmuck has a story they want to tell and they use corporate IP to do it. So you end up with these movies/cartoons/animated shorts with just these colossal differences from the source material.

So they can't advertise it as an adaptation and make easy money by doing a bundle deal with a blu-ray and a trade

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>>88376667
Some monthlies go up to around 240.

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Why don't comics adapt the magazine format japanese manga has?

For example, DC releases a bi-monthly another monthly and whatever else magazine with a bunch of titles. People buy those magazines and then buy volumes for the series they like.

It's a good way to advertise less popular comics or new ones if you put them together with best sellers like Batman for example. Or would that be way too expensive?

>>88376674
>>88376734
That's actually impressive somewhat. There's definitely an interest in comics thanks to movies. I don't have the stats on my hand but trade sales have been on the rise for the past 4 or 5 years. Floppies market always has their highs and lows but trade is steadily increasing.

>>88376889
Because they've convinced their existing market that color and high-quality paper matter for floppies.

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>>88376884
Yeah, Kakegurui has around 220-40.

Also weird, hivemind must be working >>88376884
>>88376889

>>88376555
When is the Bagley/Busiek back-up that's bringing back Jolt? That'll probably boost sales. I can't even remember the last Busiek-written comic that Marvel's put out.

>>88376406
No, it wouldn't, for dozens of reasons that get brought up literally every time someone suggests this horrible idea.

>>88376971

Back up is issue 10 in February next year.

>>88376914
Oh so it's like I said, it's too expensive to put several works into 1 magazine.

>>88376914
Tbh color does matter, to me at least. Manga has a very different art from western with different types of inking technique and overall very different in presentation. Do you seriously think people would not drop comics if pretty colors were gone?

>>88376991
The idea isn't horrible it's the execution that's shit

>>88376416
>You'd think with all these superhero movies/TV shows everywhere same would happen to comics
No, because comics are a medium. You can like movies/TV and not like comics because they're completely different mediums.

Comics as a MEDIUM is respected in Japan. Just because people like the cape GENRE doesn't mean they're going to give a fuck about comics as a medium when they can just get their cape genre fix from all the movies/TV shows.

>>88376914
Wouldn't the magazine idea will cost them less than the floppies even if they used colors?

>>88376940
Yumeko is love

>>88376902
>There's definitely an interest in comics thanks to movies
There is, but those sales are reflected in the trade market. Not via the direct market, and definitely not floppies. So yes, movies are resulting in increased sales, but those sales aren't going to be showing up on any of these charts because these are the charts for traditional comic readers.

>>88376889
>Or would that be way too expensive?

Most likely that. If anthologies actually sold well, Dark Horse Presents, Island, and Cinema Purgatorio would sell a lot better than they currently do. And if your intent is making a monthly anthology magazine that sells on the newsstand, the comic companies would also have to deal with returns which could eat into profit.

Actually something else came to mind, I'd like to see comparisons between sales of news magazines from Japan with sales of news magazines in the US.

>>88377068
Not really.

>>88377018
They tried it small scale with Legends of Tomorrow and it was dead in the water 3 months in despite some solid stories for the same price as an average Marvel book. People in America just don't buy anthologies.

>>88377122
Japan has a stronger print market in general. The biggest newspapers in the world are Japanese and dwarf any American paper.

>>88376793
Yeah, Hastings closing was a major blow to Diamond and by association, diamond-distributed publishers. Apparently Diamond has been calling in a bunch of delinquent accounts to make up for the loss in revenue from Hastings' closing, and as a result, it's potentially going to cause a bunch of LCS to be closing in the next couple years.

Diamond had some leeway with paying your account, because they figured you'd have to pay up at some point, and there was enough leeway to go easy on delinquent accounts because other stores compensated for them and the loss of the store because they couldn't pay up that month would hurt more in the long-run. But with Diamond getting more strapped for cash as one of their biggest (if not THE biggest) accounts closing down, they didn't have this leeway anymore and had to start calling in all of their debts to compensate. Well, all those delinquent account LCSs that couldn't pay their bill before certainly can't pay it now that Diamond is going "you have a month to reup or we're cutting you off" so they will almost certainly end up having to close.

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>>88370859
>> 1. Paper Girls Vol. 2 (Image) - 10,480
>> 5. Unbelievable Gwenpool Vol. 1 Believe It (Marvel) - 5,310
>5,310

>>88376384
>especially TT.
What happened with this book? Is Damian really hurting it or the fans are just tired of the franchise?

>>88377201
Teen Titans curse is a real thing.

>>88377159
See that's what I was wondering about, if Japan's populace read more in general and it wasn't just a difference between manga and US comics.

>>88376199

Those sales are very top heavy and drop off quicker than the North American market. There is also much more variety of titles in the Western Market to spread out the sales.

>>88377018
The Big 2 have spent the past 20 years trying to make Anthologies work in the western market and they don't. I mean shit, Marvel JUST tried doing an anthology book that was released monthly and collected 6 issues at a time and guess what? It bombed.

>>88377153
>An anthology of literally whos
That's shit execution.

You need to throw some weight behind the idea. Have a Trinity story, some out of continuity stuff with name brand characters and some experimental stuff. Use a mix of big name creators and new creative talent. This will sell

>>88377197
Not sure what you're trying to imply. 5.3k for a diamond distributed trade is really good, especially for Marvel who usually have much shittier trade sales compared to DC and Image.

>>88377258
>This will sell
It didn't sell the last dozen times they've tried it, why would it sell now?

>>88377232
(You)

>>88377085
I think I was listening to Memender and a lot of creators/industry people share this sentiment as well. People like trades because they like getting their entertainment in bulk these days. Trade is the normiebait gateway to comics. It's why DC going the bi-weekly route is a very neat experiment and how well DC performs might actually have an impact on industry or at least big 2 for years.

>>88377258
>experimental stuff

Dead in the water. The only way an anthology here would sell is if it was 5 Batman stories and it'd only sell because it's Batman. Honestly, I don't know why they haven't tried that type of thing out in the same vein as Green Lantern Corps Quarterly, just with Batman.

>>88376793
>>88377174
I wasn't aware of this and it does explain the drop.

>>88371104
>>what are chart positions beyond 100
CANCELLED

>>88371587
Good.

>>88377232
2/10 made me reply

>>88376213
Random question, but when RHATO first trade will come out?

>>88377423
May if I'm not mistaken.

>>88377423
May 2

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1401268757/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1481578391&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=Red+Hood+and+the+Outlaws

>>88377455
>>88377468
Thanks!

>>88377281
>Not sure what you're trying to imply. 5.3k

This is a Marvel books, secon issues and volume sales take a huge dip

>>88377339
They hate money

>>88377634
That's true for DC and Image as well senpai.

Full solicits next week?

>>88376213
RH has been only losing 5k monthly since #2 which is honestly impressive because the others have been losing 10k.

NSM is the book I'm really worried about and hopefully Kenan appearing in Superman will help with sales.

>>88377339
because the shit doesn't sell, anthologies haven't just become a thing they've always been around.

you see one every year in the Annual issue, back when Marvel heroes could support 4 weekly hero books you see them in the form of the Unlimited books to fill 5th week gaps.

even the essentials line and digest for Runaways and Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane was created to see if readers would tolerate books printed in the absolute cheapest way possible.

>>88377222
They read more PRINT in general and it's because Japanese society, at large, is basically computer illiterate. The population there just like to buy print.

>https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=japanese%20computer%20literacy

Japan is just not comparable to the US market in any way.

>>88378384
Huh, this is actually interesting to know. Thanks.

>>88378098
It's going to depend on how Tomasi will write him.

The crossover would have forced fans to give it a try.

>>88372773
That's one part of the latter title's premise.

>>88372822
The Lost Boys is the only Vertigo title with a 5-digit sale figure there, and is outsellig some mainline DC minis such as Suicide Squad Most Wanted Vol. 2.

>>88377396
You are too harsh anon.

>>88377775
Yes

>and finally, all those suggestions for American comics to adopt the Japanese manga magazine format
Every fucking time.

>>88370859
>9. Moon Knight Vol. 1 Lunatic (Marvel) - 3,742
Cool.
>208. Vision Vol. 1 Little Worse Than Man (Marvel) - 663
Did the Vision one come out a month ago or something?

>>88373043
>THERE ARE NO ADS IN TRADES AND DIGITALS.
Not right now.

Honestly, I'd be cool with trades having ads, and then hardcover "premium" collections, etc. without ads.

>>88380878
>I'd be cool with trades having ads
KYS DESU SENPAI

>>88380878
Wtf is wrong with you

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>>88380878
I can't "nope" hard enough

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>>88380878

>>88381139
>>88381032
>>88381179
>>88381185
Just put an ad between each issue.
I'd not be ok with ad formatting as it is now, but with some reworking, I don't see the problem.
Throw on another reduction in price and bingo.

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>>88370839
whatever will he do having 2nd place in the industry

>>88370774
>> 112. Gwenpool #8 (Marvel) - 24,395
>Lower sales
>Even with the weaboo artist.

Its happening!

>>88377699

Difference being that DC and good Image books have better sales to begin with.

>>88380705
Vision vol 1 came out like 5 months ago
Did you not see Vision vol 2 right above Moon Knight?

>>88377634
The overwhelming majority of trades don't get a second and third month anon
And if they do its at 300-500
Only image books by salty ex big two writers and well known Batman trades do better than that

Do these numbers take into account digital?
If not they are completely pointless.

>>88381765
Higher ups tell us these sales aren't very representative all the time or are just a piece of the pie but we still bitch all the same.