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Dark Forces Edition

>Upcoming Releases:
http://www.swbooks.net/updates/release-2016.htm

>Out This Week:
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Poe Dameron #9

>Rebels 3.10: "Visions and Voices"
https://mega.co.nz/#!3ZkDkbaZ!19XhZ6GuUT4Jrsrn5u70pEv7GS0gEn5-XwmYo4IfN-A

>Rebels Recon #3.10: "Visions and Voices"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DdvEeemqPI

>Rogue One: A Star Wars Story Official Trailer #2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC9abcLLQpI

>Download links: (Check here for new Rebels Episodes + Books, Comics, Films, etc)
http://pastebin.com/nWsKtSya

>Star Wars Canon Guide:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t1KovH_1GYLDTAe3yrleeWiuzwulm670o_anQqr5Rcg/pubhtml

>Legends Recommendation List:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/147N5EgCnZmcPaDYvnGQwl9cn7BhBroFb7mD2C4cmWb0/ed
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Continuing from last thread...

Less than a week to go, /co/ -- what should I watch next? Already watched:

>Episode II
>Saw Gerrera Onderan Arc from S5
>Geonosis Arc from S2

I'll probably finish with:

>O66 Arc
>Yoda arc (if I have time)
>Utapau
>Episode III

What should I watch in between?
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>>88365253
Is it just me, or Rebels suck big time? I tried getting into it, but there is no sense of grandeur that was in Clone Wars, and all characters feel... too crafted
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What is he getting for Christmas, /swco/?
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>>88365307

It's just you.
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>>88365307
It's an opinion others have shared, but it isn't a universal opinion and others have thus far praised it.
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What is she, /swco/?
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>>88365307
You're literally in a Rebels thread right now ... what kind of response do you expect to a comment like that?
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>>88365309

Some new oil to grease those robolegs.

just kidding, he gets misery and more misery
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>>88365309
He's getting an entire section of the franchise based around him, much to his dismay
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>>88365368
Poor Little Sith Lord is going to be made canon? I mean it already IS canon, clearly, but they'll actually be writing fully animating them? Or live action? Or an entire trilogy written by Wendig?

Wait, scratch that last one. Even Maul doesn't deserve to suffer like that.
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>>88365405

Live action is cheaper. Who is James Deen going to play?
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>>88365441
Mother Talzin
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What's in the bag?
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>>88365513
A box.
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>>88365513
The heads of Luke's students. It was in pretty poor taste for Ben to cosplay as his own dad when murdering everyone but you know how Kylo Ren enjoys a good chuckle.
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>>88365513
A delivery for Nute Gunray
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>>88365588

I heard Kylo Ren is shredded.
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>>88365650
A bit, but he survived TFA.
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>>88365309
Nothing but misery.

Punishment for ruining Ezra's Christmas present. She had something special planned.
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>>88365301
Apocalypse Now
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>>88365661

Kek, not bad.
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Ahsnoka
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>>88365253
So with the Nightsisters ghosts does that mean we can get Sith ghosts again? They follow a lot of the old EU rules, bound in one place, etc. I kinda missed that aspect.
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>>88365758
Sith don't have magic
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>>88365803
It was George but his original decree was that no dark side ghosts period.
>>88365812
Semantics. You could easily say the ancient Sith did, Sith sorcery is a canon thing I think based on that Season 6 episode.
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Why is Ezra such a boyslut?
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>>88365758
Maybe, but I doubt it. Nightsisters have been shown as adept at manipulating Living Force energies and could, conceivably, manage to trap it at the point of death before they become one with the Cosmic Force. They certainly use the Force in very different ways than Jedi or Sith.

Still I don't know about Sith. The reason they cannot become true Force Ghosts is they're attached to the material world. They crave life and so fight, whereas the kind of ascension performed by Obi-Wan, Yoda, and even Qui-Gon (his mediation before his final moments with Maul?) are one of letting go, surrendering yourself to the Force instead of fighting.

The Nightsisters woudln't be true Force Ghosts, just trapped between life and death, held by an object or technology. And also being very much trapped in that area. Is it possible they might not even be true consciousness? Could they be Force energies somehow "programmed" by the Nightsisters to function as they do? Maybe just an imprint or echo of the person but not really them.

The episode guide will go up later today and may give us more insights. We might also get, perhaps, an interview for the winter break. There seems good odds we might get that question for Pablo in the next recon when the show starts back up, too.
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>>88365812
I don't know about that. Sidious' Sith ritual using Dooku's blood as a sympathetic link between Apprentice and his old Master to fuck with Yoda's head is a fair indication. It even had an incantation.

The Jedi certainly haven't been shown to, but the Sith broke from the Jedi long ago. I don't know about Original Red Sithâ„¢ shenanigans ever becoming canon but they clearly diverged quite a bit from Jedi teachings.
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>>88365932

Go back into the force, Plo, you died over a decade ago.
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>>88365758
No
Sith cannot become force ghosts, that's canon
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>>88366016
>Could they be Force energies somehow "programmed" by the Nightsisters to function as they do? Maybe just an imprint or echo of the person but not really them.
That's what I'm guessing. Sort of like we saw with the Sith holocron. It worked the way they did in Legends, where it's basically an interactive recording (though Obi-Wan's seemed to just be a static message that wouldn't talk back to you).
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>>88366061
Trust no one, not even your sexual abuse victims.
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>>88365932
He's trying to compensate for Kallus not responding to his advances. Why do you think he was so aggressive around him last episode?
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>>88365758
>>88365838
>>88366082

I'm personally happy to consider all this a new path, and the old excuses as relics, as I like Sith ghosts, and we now have dark side spirits. I'm not going to try and handwave them. Malevolent wraiths bound to certain areas makes certain places genuinely scary. Hell, you could even argue that Yoda was wrong about the wraith of Crab-Armor, as it wouldn't be the first time the Jedi blinders he worse made him miss what was right in front of him.

I mean sure, we can ask Pablo, but where the fuck is the fun in that? If I wanted everything explained, I'd read academic textbooks for a hobby.
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>>88366082
Holocrons are tricky things and who knows how they work. I'd hazard they're kyber based, but might not be. They are clearly not only reactive to the Force but somehow conduits of powerful visions if Dark and Light are combined.

I'm sure based on that alone that mere recording devices wouldn't be the half of what they can do. I'm sure there would be techniques to imprint yourself on a holocron. A bit more intimately than the "echoes" left on certain places like Leia sensed of Maul on Naboo. Not just an aftershock of a presence but a kind of copy, very limited, of your wisdom. Or, hell, it could just be a kind of Force AI little better than Dark Side Siri (which may be redundant). Certainly not like the Nightsisters. Not able to manifest or possess, that we saw anyway (and never will since it's destroyed now).

Semi-related note I have never liked how they describe death in Star Wars. Okay being able to manifest from the afterlife, yeah, that can be rare. But the way it consumes you, no heaven, no hell, no weird lobby where you at least get to hang out with all your old loved ones - just nothingness. Anakin can be a ghost, sure, but he'll never be able to reunite with Padme, just glimpse her through the past. Sounds more torture than comfort.
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One thing I liked about this episode is however sad and alone Maul might be on Dathomir, his people dead and gone, he was more than happy to use their knowledge for his own purposes and then fuck them over on the price and his promise to help restore them.

Classic Maul. Classic Sith, really, but Maul totally swears he isn't one of them. He's only fooling himself.
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>>88366154
It would take more than Yoda being wrong, it would have to be those Force Priestesses who are in a position to know better. Not to mention a true Sith Ghost wouldn't be defeated by saying it doesn't exist.
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>>88366124
>Kallus not responding to his advances
Anon please. Ezra has no interest in Kallus.

There was only ever one dick that Ezra wanted to suck. And it belonged to 7th Sister.
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>>88366154
>Hell, you could even argue that Yoda was wrong about the wraith of Crab-Armor, as it wouldn't be the first time the Jedi blinders he worse made him miss what was right in front of him
Given that Bane disappears once Yoda calls him on being just an illusion and the Priestesses admit that everything until that point had been their doing, I don't think he's wrong about that one.
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>>88358419
>Can humans and ayy lmaos breed in Star Wars?
yes source vv
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hybrid/Canon
i cant see a human and a calamari hybrid, but i can see a human/chiss
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>>88366247
>Anakin can be a ghost, sure, but he'll never be able to reunite with Padme, just glimpse her through the past. Sounds more torture than comfort.
Yeah, it doesn't sound all that great, but I don't think it's really meant to. The path to that power requires selflessness and a willingness to let go- I think the point isn't so much to reward you for being a good person as much as give you the opportunity to continue helping others. It's basically just an eternal job.
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>>88366552
Anon, Ezra lusts for the sideburns and you know it.
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>>88366604
Maybe he wants Mirialan dick and the sideburns - at the same time?

Maybe he wants to be the one in the middle, just like Bendu taught him.
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>>88366619
where does sabine fit into all of this
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>>88366635
She has to watch and pleasure herself to the sight of Ezra getting eiffel towered by SS and Kallus.
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>>88366588
Or is it eternal? The Priestesses seem to have made themselves a rather permanent fixture in order to test if one is worthy of The Great Secret. That planet Yoda met them on is also said to be their homeworld according to the Star Wars databank ( http://www.starwars.com/databank/force-priestesses ) so an environment like that would definitely make them special. A land between the Living and Cosmic Force that doesn't show on Artoo's sensors? Image what people could evolve in such a place would be like. Unless the databank is wrong, which it sometimes is.

At least Obi-Wan seems to still be active if that really was him talking to Rey and not just the Force using his voice. But Yoda? He was given the secret to ensure he would train a new hope. He was given the secret to life after death in case, I suppose. he didn't survive long enough. Or is he meant to train someone other than Luke? Rey? Ha, imagine how THAT would go over!
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So the Rogue One connection is the Ghost fighting in the final battle, right? Do you think we'll get an episode from their point of view?
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>>88366668
If the movie is well received, yes. If not, then probably just a handwave at the beginning of a season.
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>>88366650
>Or is it eternal?
It is. It's not like Legends where they're simply ghosts temporarily existing to finish a job.

A more accurate term(and the term Wookieepedia uses IIRC) is Force spirit. They've learned to separate their consciousness from being lost to the Cosmic Force.
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>>88366698
It isn't so much that they have to fade away, the Priestess are clear evidence to the contrary, but they were chosen for specific purposes. They are already one with the Force, but is it possible they can release their consciousness as happens to most people? Effectively reach that "forever sleep" Yoda talked about but never really got.The Will of the Force may still be that they have met their obligations and are no longer needed.

At the very least we know there are certain rules they cannot violate. Qui-Gon couldn't just tell Yoda that Palpatine was Darth Sidious, merely guide him to where he might find answers on his own. Their ability to interfere with certain events is reiterated (or rather is the original first mention of limitations) by Obi-Wan regarding his inability to help Luke against Vader.
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Reminder that the Force is a detriment to the advancement and peace in the galaxy and must be destroyed.
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>>88366760
It's a movie.
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>>88366760
Reminder that destroying the Force would end literally (not figuratively) all life in the galaxy
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>>88366777
I wonder if the galaxy after the defeat of the empire made movies about Jedi and Sith and criticize them for their constant wars.
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>>88366793
Precisely.
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>>88366793
>yfw the Force represents the nature of Man and how one can fall to the "dark side" of our nature as no being is born dark, and that Man is always in conflict with one another tide because of the internal conflicts we all must go through between the dark and light side of our nature
>yfw war is no accident that man's care could have averted, but is as natural, though not as regular, as the tides
>yfw the only way to stop the conflict of Man's nature, as represented by these Star Wars and the conflicts of the Force, is to take away that which makes us human and we become essentially dead
Lucas is a genius.
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>>88366793
Utter death to the galaxy is a mercy.
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>>88366881
It's not actually clear it would work, either. Kill everything in the galaxy? And I mean absolutely everything? You'd just be feeding the Cosmic Force and it can just put it right back. And IT has a mind of its own.

Even worse for this scheme I cannot imagine it is centered in just one galaxy. No EU crap with the Vong being immune and otherwise alien to the Force. The whole damn universe is full of the Force.
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>>88367009
KILL THEM ALL.
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>>88367023
Shut up, Harbinger. God you Reapers are so annoying.
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ho Ho HO
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Was this really that bad? I see it as number 1 in a lot of "Worst Star Wars Games Ever" lists, but was it really that, THAT bad? Or is it just a meme?
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>>88366807
Do they canonically have movies? The most we've seen are recordings of dancers and stuff and of course those shows on the Holiday Special I've always wondered if they have media like that.
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>>88365673
Need uncensored.
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>>88367613
I still like the idea that Genndy Wars was an animated propaganda series in-universe. I hope someone canonizes that shit.
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>>88367466
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>>88367625
http://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/1764731#search=Seventh_sister

Enjoy your holidays anon.
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>you will never bully Kylo Ren
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>>88367706
>you will never bully the dork-squad
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>>88367639
It's a fun idea, I like it. Needs some retconning to take out stuff like Darth Sidious clearly being Palpatine, though.
>>88367645
Anyone have the version of this with the candy cane lightsaber?
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>>88367706
At first I didn't think he was attractive but I got used to him and now I find him cute
Did he grow on anyone else here?
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>>88367748
Ew, no. He's ugly as fuck.
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>>88367706
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>>88367466
>>88367645
>>88365673
Post more Christmas themed SW pictures.
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>>88367613
They don't have those because the galaxy is in a constant state of war. Thanks, Force.
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Post ships
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>>88368092
ok
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>>88368092
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>>88368092
comfy ship, whether for transporting cargo or fighting the empire
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>>88368092
How much money does one of these costs?
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>>88368126

U-wing looks like it might be a comfy fight the empire, fly around with your waicrew kind of ship.
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>>88368111
Those transports always creeped me out.
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>>88368126
Eh, the Raven's Claw was better.
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>>88368092
Ezrus is canon
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>>88368092
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>>88368159

there are x-wing minis of these right?
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So, how's everyone's opinion of Rebels compared to The Clone Wars? I think it's more consistent than TCW, but when TCW hit high points, it really hit them.
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>>88368131
not canon, since it was made before ep7 came out but the FFG game lists some prices

an ISD I costs 150 million credits, sans crew and supplies, since the venator predates the ISD, but is comparable role, we could expect a price range of about 100M to 200M, depending on condition and cost of repairs

for equivalency most people , wookiepedia, the old DK sourcebooks, the FFG games, andstar wars galaxies, agree that a blaster pistol costs between 500-1000 credits
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>>88368131

59mil credits

Imp star destroyers are about 140+ mil
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>>88368170
Apparently
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>>88368179

It's only more consistent because it has one crew to focus on, while the clone wars has way too many fucking characters to makes nonsense arcs out of.

That being said, clone wars is still far above rebels, if only for the reason that star wars has become too disneyfied now.
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>>88368201

nice!
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>>88368092
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>>88367645
>No candy cane lightsabre
Get this poodoo out of here!
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>>88368224
fenn rau and his protectorate starfighter predate his appearance in the show by a wide margin

also at PS9, fenn rau is a bona fide scum and villiany ace, and one of the best pilots in the galaxy
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>>88368267

The protectors seem pretty cool, how they look and the fang fighter. Would want to fly.
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How come TFA's plot was almost completely leaked before release, but we barely know anything about Rogue One? I thought the super secretive production was the former's?
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>>88368374
Episode VII had its shooting schedule/call sheet leaked and people were spying on it intently, so they could piece together what happened months before release.
Rogue One didn't have as much hype behind it, but Episode VIII will probably have more leaked.
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>Look at that repeating texture. Reminds me of the N64. #RevengeOfTheSith #TNT

What did he mean by this?
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>>88368374
>http://pastebin.com/HYf47fWy
Someone posted this a few weeks back if I remember correctly.
I don't think it has been confirmed to be legit or not.
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>>88368580
>http://pastebin.com/HYf47fWy
It's fake. Says Vader doesn't use his lightsaber, when reports say he does.
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>>88368588
How do we know if those reports are real?
I see people saying that he slaughters the rebel group and then I see people saying he only kills the empire guy.
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>>88368616
Most reports I've read are agreeing that he kills the rebel group in a tense scene
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>>88368630
I still don't trust what anyone says, but I hope it's true.
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>>88368465
he's probably talking about the ledge
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Rogue One spoilers where
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>>88368848
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/5ho8q7/spoilers_rogue_one_discussion_megathread/?sort=confidence
Here

Some might be faking, there was a guy when the thread was just new who had actually seen the movie though.
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Why is the Empire so based?
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>>88368981
Sheev, you're not welcome here.
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>>88368991

Rebel scum GTFO
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>>88369023
Don't you have better things to be doing like laughing at Vader's pain?
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>>88368991
>Sheev
>not welcome here
What?
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>>88369042
This is Rebel Alliance territory
see? i've claimed it now. it's ours.
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>itt one guy talking to himself to artificially keep a dead general alive.

eternal general threads should be banned
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>>88369071
>That filename
DELET THIS
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>>88368465
Morons like HelloGreedo always astound me because there are legit problems with those films (and this is coming from someone who enjoys the prequels), yet they choose to nitpick the stupidest shit.
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>>88369071
can't wait to see the empire getting btfo in rogue one
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>>88369337
If leaks are to be believed, it's mostly the rebels who get BTFO
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>>88365253
>Dark Forces Edition

You ean Rogue One Edition
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>>88367645
>tis the season...then
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>>88369357
>It is a period of civil war. Rebel spaceships, striking from a hidden base, have won their first victory against the evil Galactic Empire.
pyrrhic victory?
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>>88369503
reminds me of one of the coolest teasers ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KjKVGVK09U
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>>88369589
God, I want this movie to be good so fucking badly.
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>>88369589
They should have opened the movie like that.
Imagine the surprise people would get.
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>>88369589
so good
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>>88369503
Rogue One aren't the only rebels fighting on Scarif, you know. Them dying is no different from a bunch of no-names dying in their place. The rebellion still loses some members, but overall they fuck Scarif up enough to claim it as a victory.

Actually, Alliance High Command may not even see it as a victory. They don't know that the plans were beamed to the Tantive IV based on ANH. For all they know, the mission was a failure. The opening crawl only says it s a victory because we skip the battle and go right to the only important aftermath part of it: Leia secretly getting the plans.
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>>88365838
>Semantics.
Sith are equal in the dark side to the Nightsisters (or rather, were). They are just two different parts of the overall dark side.

Sith = dark side, but dark side =/= Sith. Don't forget that.
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Different anon here.

>>88369924

>Sith are equal in the dark side to the Nightsisters

Not really. Apart from the Son, the Sith were the most immersed, knoweldgable and powerful in the Dark Side.

The Nightsisters were powerful, but near so as the Sith.
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I am Groot!
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>>88368092
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>>88370154
he's a big droid
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>>88370276
FĂ¼r Sie!
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>>88370276

When's he gonna matepress Jyn and take over as MC?
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>>88366303

That's our Maul!

No seriously, that's why I love the Sith. Always so selfishly practical.
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>>88366303
>Classic Maul. Classic Sith, really, but Maul totally swears he isn't one of them. He's only fooling himself.
He's not a Sith after TPM though.
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>>88368981
They rose and fell faster than most African governments.
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>>88371006
He is though.
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>>88371092
To be a Sith you have to actively be under the training of a Sith Master. Palpatine casts him aside to replace with Dooku and by the Sith's very one Rule of Two, makes Maul a Sith no more.

You can retain the Sith knowledge but not be a Sith. Same way Ahsoka can retain Jedi knowledge while not being a Jedi after TCW.
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>>88371180
The Sith are older than the Rule of Two.
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>>88371255
Rule of Two is what governs the Sith once they are all obliterated down to just two.
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>>88371092
Nah
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>literally two days after premier of Rogue One and there isn't even a cam rip of it yet
Are you people even trying?
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>>88371359
Hopefully soon.
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>>88371359
ha ill start watching rebels if this is how it ends
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>>88371556
>>>r/Edge
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post Trooper armor you want to see in future episodes
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Going through Clone Wars again, and I'm wondering if I missed out on something, because I don't know if Disney Canon ever explains what happened to Cody. Did he go the way of Rex and defected or did he serve the Empire?
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>>88371740
pottery
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>>88371776
You didn't miss anything because we haven't heard anything about Cody since TCW ended. All that exists is headcanons and wild speculation.
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>>88371776
He probably remained loyal to the Empire, trained the first generations of stormtroopers and retired to a fat pension
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>>88371782
still no qt hover tank pilots

where's a drawfag when you need one?
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>>88371611
>>>reddit
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>>88371556
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>>88371897
You know the show is on a Disney channel right? There's no way that would make it past the censors of the station, no matter how ""canon"" the deaths would be.

Filoni couldn't even show 7S get cut in half like he wanted to because of this.
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Should I rewatch A New Hope before or after I see Rogue One?
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>>88372048
>Filoni couldn't even show 7S get cut in half like he wanted
The absolute madman.
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>>88372071
After
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>>88372061
I'd do it.
One time before and one time after!
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>>88368092
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>>88368092
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>Numa's armor says 'Boil'

How the hell'd she even get hold of that armor?
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>>88372549
I would prefer if it said "boi"
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>>88372549
She took it off clones that died during the Ryloth operations and wrote Boil's name on it when she could finally wear it.
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>>88372677
And not Waxer? But he painted her on his helmet and everything?
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>>88372549
I want to see the French Resist-I mean, the Ryloth Rebels again. They'll probably show up in the season finale and get WRECKED
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>>88368092
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So what's the deal with Filoni being replaced as a high up on Rebels? He isn't in Recon anymore and his replacement does the question answering instead.

Sick? Giving up on Star Wars? Secretly working on the third anthology?
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>>88368180
So if a blaster rifle were maybe twice that, say 2k credits, you could outfit a 75k stormtroopers for the cost of one ISD, minus crew and supplies.

How many of the damn things did the Empire have anyways, in the old canon at least?
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Who's the best Council member, /co/?

if you say anyone but Ki Adi Mundi or Plo Koon you're a faggot
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>>88372984
He was promoted to the head of all future and current Lucasfilm Animation projects back in September.

So they probably have another show in the works and he's helping oversee that while still having a role in Rebels.
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>>88373126
Sasee Tin, fight me faggot
>PREPARE TO BOARD
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>>88373126
Depa Billaba a cute.
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>>88373169
>can't even spell your gay jedi's name right

INTO THE TRASH
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>>88366826
>>88366881

Creepio, get off the holonet.
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>>88373229haha
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Just threw on the S6 Yoda arc while I'm working from home today. Holy shit I forgot how much better the animation got by this point in the show. What a shame that Rebels doesn't have the budget.

Also, Chancellor Velorum seems pretty chill for a dude who got ousted by Sheev.
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>>88372709
>And not Waxer? But he painted her on his helmet and everything?

Boil was the one who probably came back and took care of her after the war ended, assuming that happened.

>>88371180
>>88371290

These. Before Pablo confirmed, I was on the 'Maul is still a Sith' boat. Maul is not a Sith. He was instructed their ways and traditions, and still very much operates based on those teachings. But he's a Sith Lord no longer. Maul was stripped of the Darth title when the Dark Lord of the Sith came to Mandalore.
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So Darth Maul knows that Obi-Wan is on Tatooine. Does he know that Anakin Skywaler was from there? Because if so the first place he'd look would be Skywalker Ranch.
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>>88373126
Yoda
Obi-Wan
Plo Koon
Kit FIsto
Mace Dindu
and Saesee Tiin

in this order
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>>88373388
Double Dubs confirm. Acceptable list.
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>>88373383
Why would Maul look for anything relating to Anakin? He doesn't know that Anakin is still alive, or that he had a kid(s) that lived.
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As I rewatch TCW, I realize that what stands out to me about it is how many major moments they had. There's some serious implications on the Star Wars canon, especially in the later seasons. They explored the Force in some really cool ways, and did a great job filling in interesting information between II and III.

I've gotten to really like Rebels, and this is definitely the best season yet, but I think this is the one thing missing. Other than the Inquisitors, have there been any major developments to the larger SW universe come out of Rebels yet? (Obviously it's a newer show still, so I don't expect it to be as fleshed out as TCW.) Would it benefit from more characters that tie it to the rest of the SW universe?
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Are there any good Star Wars games that focus on fleet building and space combat on a larger scale than starfighter dogfights? Or should I just play Homeworld?
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>>88369589
Holy fuck that's cool.
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>>88373539
Space battles in Empire at War are kind of like that
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>>88373539
Try Star Wars: Empire at War also Sins of a solar empire has mods for SW
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>>88373539
HW has a SW mod that is kinda workable.

Alternatively Empire at War. Or modding X3 to command an ISD and fleet if you are really desperate. Other than that there is only 4X games I think.

I wish there was something like Battlefleet Gothic for it tho with the micro management and more personalised fleet/ships.

That said I'd like there to be any game like that not in WH40k because that universe is meh to me.
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>>88373523
Not really, but they're probably trying to avoid the "main characters are the absolute most important parts of rebel history" problem that plagued TFU
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>>88366556
Question is, how they make the spirits, is it them manipulating the Dark Side or is it them making an illusion of the Dark Side? The same black smoke shows up around Bane, the snake-monster and the Warriors, as it did in the cave on Dagobah and on the Force Planet. All places where the Dark Side manifests itself.

If the Nightsisters could bind themselves to an object, so could the Sith (and they did in the EU). Moraband/Korriban was kinda made for that purpose from day one. There's also the Sith helmet in the Lando comics which seems to be possessed by something.
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>>88372549
>And nothing about waxer
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>>88373228
Cuz she's the generic indian waifu.
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>>88373126
Obi-Wan is clearly the greatest member.
Mace is second.
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>>88373228
A CUTE!
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>>88373126
Snake.
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>>88373228
>The true enemy of humanity is disorder
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>>88373972
I don't see the problem here.
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>>88373855
You know, that's a good point, and it shows what a tough place they're in. If the show isn't UBER IMPORTANT then people wonder what's the point. But if the Ghost crew is UBER IMPORTANT then people will whine about "well where are they in the OT if they're so damn important!" and bitch about lame OCs.
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>>88373126
The real question: WTF were they thinking with Yaddle? How did they casually throw another member of Yoda's race in there and no one seems to care?
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>>88374064
I hate pooinloos as much as anyone but goddamn that accent gives me a raging payload
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>>88374149
The movies never said he was the last of his race, so there was no reason to be upset about it.
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>>88373341
>Boil was the one who probably came back and took care of her after the war ended, assuming that happened.


Damn, he didn't take care of her because he had a shit death.
Good night sweet prince.
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>>88374275
>The movies never said he was the last of his race, so there was no reason to be upset about it.
This.

Yoda is a mysterious specie, but we could suppose there is a planet full of them.
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>>88371084
Thankfully not in Legends.

>not canon

Thank Jesus for that too. Canon is fucking shit.
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>>88368092
Best ship.
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>>88373228
GLIB
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>>88374275
>>88374361
I'm not upset about it at all. It just seems so random.

Like, they intentionally treat Yodas race as this huge mystery. It's pretty much the one thing that's always been off limits. But if they're gonna throw in another Yoda person, seems like they should've addressed it a bit more.
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>>88374526
>caring about what's canon
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>>88374695
What if Yoda's race has already been named in canon, but the author's never elaborated on the physical description enough to reveal it's Yoda's?
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>>88373383
Doubt he'll go immediately to Skywalker ranch. First, he'll snoop around, and eventually listen to the rumors of Ben KENOBI, the loner monk whose been a nuisance to Jabba. THEN he'll go around that area.
Obi-Wan really should have put more effort into coming up with an alias.
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>>88374714
I don't, that's my point. I'm so fucking mad at people who give a shit about what is canon and what isn't, better off nothing being canon.

I love both the Yuuzhan Vong Invasion/NJO and Rebels/TCW, but I fucking hate Cuck Wendig's Aftermath. Just enjoy what's good out of both, have your own taste. Nothing bad about it.
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>>88374892
This.
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>>88374892
I agree with that sentiment, though SW canon now is an interesting beast to me. Canonicity is pretty cool right now because there is a singular guiding force, the story group, keeping things in line.

It's different than, for instance, Marvel or DC canons because A) it's big enough to keep in check and B) they clearly actually care about making everything part of the same story. I'm not sure we've ever seen a franchise like this, where everything is monitored and run by a central group at this scale.

That said, as far as enjoyment goes, canon/non-canon isn't gonna change whether or not I like something.
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>>88374870
Maybe Kenobi is like the Smith of Star Wars last names
It's a big galaxy afterall
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>>88375104
>Maybe Kenobi is like the Smith of Star Wars last names

Except we already know Antilles is the Smith of the Star Wars galaxy.
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>>88374892
As bad as Aftermath is, so far it didn't do anything horrible to the franchise outside of bad writing. The story is just kind of "there" and did nothing to irreparably damage the saga in any way. I feel like you can easily skip the Aftermath trilogy and not miss anything, since it doesn't affect it as a whole in any significant way.
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>>88375062
> different than, for instance, Marvel or DC canons because A) it's big enough to keep in check and B) they clearly actually care about making everything part of the same story. I'm not sure we've ever seen a franchise like this, where everything is monitored and run by a central group at this scale.
It's pretty much Marvel Cinematic Universe tbqh.

And on that note, they should've had Legends still be around as a separate universe. I know it technically is, but they could make that distinction more clear. Maybe release like a Legends short story every two years since obviously they're busy with nu-canon and there's nothing wrong with that.
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>>88374870
That reminds me, Jabba definetly has a bone to pick with Maul given the events of the Clone Wars.
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>>88375183
>It's pretty much Marvel Cinematic Universe

Except Star Wars canon is much better handled than that. The MCU has a ton of iffy things, basically the only thing you can be sure is canon is the movies. They TV shows are in a gray area. Meanwhile, everything in Star Wars canon feels like it could interact with each other, seen in how both Saw Gerrera and the Ghost are in Rogue One.
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>>88371776
I want to see more japanese fanart of clone wars.
I feel like I'm missing out on a bunch and I can never seem to find any.
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>>88375268
This. I love a lot of stuff from Legends but I like everything currently being 100% in the same universe with potential for interaction. Also for the most part new canon has been more consistent with quality and tone.
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>>88370246

This is one of the most beautiful things I've seen in a long time. Source?
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>>88375183
>It's pretty much Marvel Cinematic Universe tbqh
Right, the only difference being that it spans far more than the MCU. I almost mentioned it, actually, but honestly I forgot for a second that MCU had TV shows too.

Even still, Star Wars is now:
>8 movies
>9 seasons of TV
>A dozen or so novels, and more every year
>Probably 100+ comics at this point
>A couple video games

And through a lot of those various media, there are shared characters and stories that take place in between or alongside one another.

But yeah, the MCU is definitely unprecedented in a unique way. It doesn't focus as much on one story as much as SW, but it intertwines a lot of stories with a meta-arc running through a lot of it.

> And on that note, they should've had Legends still be around as a separate universe. I know it technically is, but they could make that distinction more clear. Maybe release like a Legends short story every two years since obviously they're busy with nu-canon and there's nothing wrong with that.

Yeah, I'm with you on this, but I totally understand why they didn't. It's in their best interest to keep things as simple as possible, and mucking things up with a separate line of continuity that only appeals to a niche group of fans isn't really worth it for them.

I could see them doing something like that in the future though, maybe if there's ever a lull in SW films, but that won't be for at least 4 or 5 years.
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>>88375152
>There can only be one common last name.
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>>88375382
>>A couple video games
Isn't only, regretfully, Battlefie-I mean front ;^) canon? I don't know if any others were released, I've been out of the loop with Star Wars vidya. I think there was Force Awakens lego too?

>Yeah, I'm with you on this, but I totally understand why they didn't. It's in their best interest to keep things as simple as possible, and mucking things up with a separate line of continuity that only appeals to a niche group of fans isn't really worth it for them.

Yeah that's why I said it'd just be a short story every few years, not ongoing novels and the like. Slow and steady build-ups like 'A New Dynasty in the Old Empire' about the Fels coming to power in the Remnant and other in-betweeners for what happens between LOTF and the Legacy comics. I think the Legacy comics are a good conclusion for Legends though.
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>>88375268
>The MCU has a ton of iffy things, basically the only thing you can be sure is canon is the movies.
Like what? The TV shows are absolutely canon, even if they haven't been directly referenced in the films. Besides Coulson, obviously, we've seen Fury, Sitwell, Sif, Peggy Carter, Maria Hill, Howard Stark, and plenty more show up in the shows.

The Netflix shows haven't had any direct crossover outside of each other, but they've referenced the movies more than a handful of times.
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>>88375494
>Isn't only, regretfully, Battlefie-I mean front ;^) canon
Well, Uprising is canon. And while the events of Battlefield aren't canon, the settings, characters, ships, weapons, etc are. I think the same goes for that other mobile game too.
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>>88375384

Okay, fine. Kenobi is the Smith and Antilles is the Muhammed of Star Wars.
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>>88375559
>Prequels had Star Wars Starfighter, Battle for Naboo, hundreds of other tie-in games like Jedi Starfighter, Clone Wars and so forth
>at the same time classics like Jedi Outcast & Academy, KOTOR 1 & 2 were coming out
>Sequel/TFA era only has a bunch of mobile games and a Battlefield reskin

EA was a mistake.
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>>88375537
>The TV shows are absolutely canon

Not really. With Star Wars, people who work on the shows, books and comics work right with the people who make the movies. Marvel Studios doesn't give a flying rat's shit about the folks who make the tv-shows. The movie's have even contradicted the show on at least once so far as I'm aware of.
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>>88375613
>EA was a mistake
What else is new...
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Is Twilight Company any good?
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>>88375632
>Not really. With Star Wars, people who work on the shows, books and comics work right with the people who make the movies.
And you think that there's no communication between the TV and Film departments of Marvel Studios? Feige himself might not run the show, but you better believe he's aware of it (and he's even said that references in the movies are bound to happen eventually).

Similarly, JJ Abrams himself probably didn't give a shit about what the books and comics say. But the storygroup did.

> The movie's have even contradicted the show on at least once so far as I'm aware of.

Not sure what you're referencing, but yeah I wouldn't be surprised. I'm pretty sure the movies have even contradicted themselves at different points.

But just because the MCU isn't AS tight-knit as Star Wars doesn't mean only the movies are canon. I'm not really sure why so many people are so adamant that they're not. The people in charge have literally said that they are -- that's as much confirmation as you can get.
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>>88375688
I liked it a lot; probably one of my favorite books so far. It's not very impactful on the larger SW story, but it's a cool war book and has good characters. I'd love a sequel.
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>>88375798
Probably because Agents of SHIT is so awful it shouldn't be canon?
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>>88375688
It's dry, so it works for a war story. Plus it includes the best part of the OT, seen in another POV.
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>>88375863
Man, I love how people think it's clever to change a word in something they don't like as an insult.
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>>88375865
>Plus it includes the best part of the OT, seen in another POV.
So ... another angle view of Slave Leia??
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Does anyone else have as much trouble as I do remembering which clone is which? I know they each have unique identities, but I'm never able to remember who's an arc trooper or who was on which mission or who wears which armor.
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>>88376104
this is what would yakuza star destroyers look like
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>>88376036
The armor is how you remember them
or their face tattoos and hair
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>>88376104
Is there another image? A top view of it?
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>>88375798
>And you think that there's no communication between the TV and Film departments of Marvel Studios?
Marvel Studios IS the film department. And yes, I think there is no communication between Marvel Studios and the television crews because they don't care.

>I'm pretty sure the movies have even contradicted themselves at different points.
The only thing that comes close to a contradiction is the Throne Room on Asgard being completely different between Thor 1 and 2. Pic related. Other than that, the MCU's been pretty consistent in terms of continuity of events.

>Not sure what you're referencing, but yeah I wouldn't be surprised.
The Helicarrier in Age of Ultron. In Agents of Shield, they tried to make it out that the one that was used in the movies was brand new, showing it's contruction. In AoU, Fury states the contrary as it was actually pulled out of storage. Implying it's the same Helicarrier from Avengers 1.

Also, the movies have pretty much mad it apparent that Shield and Hydra doesn't exist anymore, whereas AoS still has them fully operating in spite of what happened in The Winter Soldier.

>But just because the MCU isn't AS tight-knit as Star Wars doesn't mean only the movies are canon.

MCU and the TV-shows are basically the same as George and the EU/Legends. One doesn't care about the other, and the other will never have any true bearing on the former.
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>>88376309
It's a regular ISD on the top. The graphic only matters on the underside to intimidate people as it enters atmosphere and lands.
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>>88376104
What we really need is ships with dazzle camo.
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>>88376564
>In Agents of Shield, they tried to make it out that the one that was used in the movies was brand new
Was that not about the new Helicarriers in Winter Soldier? I haven't watched AoS.
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>>88376608
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>>88376564
>And yes, I think there is no communication between Marvel Studios and the television crews because they don't care
Oh, well if you think so, then I guess it's settled. I mean, despite it being in direct contradiction with what the people at Marvel actually say.
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>>88376702
The writers of Winter Soldier/Civil War flat-out said they don't watch Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. When an interviewer asked them about an AoS plot element and if it will be affecting the movies, they had no idea what he was talking about.
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>>88376573
i really hope the rumours about Darth Vader having an "horror scene" are real.
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>>88376753
And do you think Abrams or Kasdan watched Rebels or TCW? Or that they've read Tarkin and Aftermath?
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>>88376634
>Was that not about the new Helicarriers in Winter Soldier?

No. The Helicarriers in TWS didn't have turbines. The one being built in AoS did.

> despite it being in direct contradiction with what the people at Marvel actually say.

And yet they contradict what they say because nothing's lived up to it. The movies have done nothing to connect with the TVshows. Especially since the majority of what goes down in the TV shows would be worth the interest of the majority of the characters in the movies. Most of what happens in AoS for example could and should involve The Avengers since they deal with jackoffs with superpowers every other week. It makes what the Avengers do on a regular basis look small-time.
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>>88376810
Isnt the point of the story group to keep everything non-contradictory so directors and things don't have to keep track of everything
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>>88376860
That's what they say the point of the story group is. In reality, story group is just a PR team to handle attempts of canon police by fans. Its pretty much what they've been doing so far.
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>>88372093
So how do we feel about black Porkins in Rogue One?
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>>88376860

More or less. At the least, the LSG serves as kind of like a checkpoint (for lack of a better way to put it) for whoever is writing content. They tell them (if needed) that they can't do something, why they can't do it, and try to find a way around that works for the story and doesn't contradict established continuity.
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>>88376774
>an "horror scene"
It's a "horror scene" you dumb yank! The H is not silent.
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>>88376859
>The movies have done nothing to connect with the TVshows. Especially since the majority of what goes down in the TV shows would be worth the interest of the majority of the characters in the movies. Most of what happens in AoS for example could and should involve The Avengers since they deal with jackoffs with superpowers every other week.

It's pretty clear in the movies that they've all been doing things in between films. We know at the beginning of AoU that this isn't the first raid the Avengers have been on. They're not going to take the time to discuss everything that's been happening in the year since the last film.

Also, what you're describing is literally no different to Star Wars. The movies don't make any references to the books or TV shows either (and they really shouldn't, outside of a casual name-drop).

>It makes what the Avengers do on a regular basis look small-time.

How? The only thing even close to large-scale on AoS was Hive, and that still wasn't nearly as big a threat as Ultron or the Chitauri invasion.
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Best and purest waifu faggots
Whoever thinks different is a shitaster
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>>88377071
>his waifu is a force user
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>MFW latest rebels recon
I wanted Sabine to become a more interesting character, but making her the one to unite mandalorians is too much, unless that occurs either a couple season from now, or in a manner different from Sabine becomes the Mandalore. I don't get what makes the darksaber special enough for it to maker fucking King Arthur. It was Viszlas, then Mauls. So is the damn things importance that it belonged to a member of House Viszla who ruled Mandalore, and Sabine is also of a clan of House Viszla, sort of making her the most badass member of House Viszla? They did say "what would it take to unite mandalorian clans" so if its just her rallying House Viszlas clans against the Empire that wouldn't be too bad.
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>>88377108
>Sweet force handjobs
You will never know real pleasure fag
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>>88377071
>Ahsoka
>Pure

Sorry make, Hondo and his crew fucked her over and over like a drunken whore in a port bar, and even Bo-Katan shoved that save into her crotch to wash off the attitude between scenes when she was posing as a civvie. Let's not even get into the off screen events of her time posing as a slave.
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>>88377071
>waifuing a self insert
You're a madman
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>>88377146
Purity is in the heart, anon
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This week, bitches. What're you guys gonna do?
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>>88377110
The darksaber is so important because it symbolized Mandalore fucking the Jedi Order back when they stole it, and whoever on Mandalore holds custody of it holds the power to rule by proxy of that power.

It's all symbolism that doesn't really work for any current day Earth cultures (that I know of) unless you change the darksaber to the White House or something.
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>>88377203
I'm gonna get the fuck off the internet, because I can't see it til saturday.
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>>88377110
She was trained well by her clan and now she has a special sword. She is ready to be another teenage girl ruling a whole society.
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>>88377181
Self insert of who? Dave Filoni?
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>>88377216
Padme did fine.
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>>88377203
Go on my family's monthly film binge where we go to the local theater, pay for one movie, then sneak in and watch all the other films because the employees don't give a shit.

Also because it's Star Wars, I'll go in during the afternoon before the crowds form.
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>>88377214
Same
I can't watch it until monday next week.
Because a friend is not home at the premiere...
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>>88377054

>The movies don't make any references to the books or TV shows either

Because the last movie that was made where most of the tv-shows and comics concern was over ten years ago. They couldn't reference any of it in the movie because it wasn't made yet. But stuff that's being made that takes place during the ST Era should be referenced in the ST movies. Not everything, of course. But the things that influence the settings ought to be.


>How?
Because they regularly deal with people who have powers.

What the Avengers did when not fighting global threats was deal with Hydra remnants, normal jackoffs. They didn't face anyone that could truly challenge them until the Maximoff twins in Sokovia.
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>>88377253
You sound like a fun kind of poorfag.
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>>88377265
Why not see it twice, anon? Premiere and then with the friend.
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>>88377249
Only Padme didn't need to be personally one of the strongest warriors of her entire society. With Mandalorian rules any chump could challenge the Mandalore in a 1v1.
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>>88377287
Clearly the friend is paying
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>>88377210
So Sabine has to kill either Kanan or Ezra to get respect from the Mandalorians? Maybe portraying Vader and Sheev as jedi-like cause they're sith would work
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>>88377202

Nah, the Son fucked that too, sorry.


>>88377146
>Sorry mate
>Bo-Katan shoved that face

My english is fucked today.
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>>88377287
He didn't want me to watch it early, so we decided we'd all go the first time together.
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>>88377330
By brandishing the darksaber, she would have most of Mandalore's respect. The rest she would have to earn by being a good enough ruler. Think Declaration of Independence. It was important to the Britons that wanted to be their own country by shoving it in Britain's face, but it's important faded almost completely over time to now.

The whole Jedi thing is why the darksaber is important to them in the first place, not something that has to continue in modern times. There are no Jedi left besides Obi-wan and Yoda (eventually Luke) for Mandalore to kill anyway, and we know that doesn't happen. Kanan is only a Jedi in name, not practice or reality, and Ezra was never part of the Order so he can only be a Jedi by proxy of Kanan and Ahsoka who were once Jedi.
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>>88377110
>but making her the one to unite mandalorians is too much, unless that occurs either a couple season from now

I don't think it's going to happen this season. They'll probably save it for one of the last season. Sabine will probably be setting up Mandalore for when the battle of Endor happens and Sidious dies. Mandalore will probably one of the few systems who'll liberate itself from Imperial occupation. Thousands of Mandos stockpiling weapons like /k/ waiting for it's happening to finally happen.


>so if its just her rallying House Viszlas clans against the Empire that wouldn't be too bad.

But in turn that would probably lead to other Houses, like perhaps House Kryze, to pledge support.
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>>88377403
qte face
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>>88377202
>faux innocent mischievous girl pose.
>pure heart

Female Sith must be fucking terrifying, in a psychotic sort of way. Imagine a yandere Sith Lady. Thhat is a genuinely scary prospect.

I wish I had this image in a better resolution.
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>>88377203
Friday after work. Pretty hype to see it
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So what limits a jedi's strength when lifting heavy things with the force?
Yoda can lift X-wings alone but when clearing rubble smaller than that in TCW there's usually a couple jedi lifting it
It cant midiclorians that limit it or else Anakin would never need help
Maybe it's connection to the force or something?
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>>88377520
It's defined in the scale of plot needs
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>>88377520
Depends on how much pure force you can exude from your body to counteract gravity and hold/lift objects. Yoda struggles with the debris in AOTC and the X-Wing a bit. It has nothing to do with the midis, just the amount of training the Jedi has.
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>>88377482
Best waifus always go bad
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>>88377270
>But stuff that's being made that takes place during the ST Era should be referenced in the ST movies.
And where were the Aftermath/Shattered Empire/Lost Stars references in TFA?

> They didn't face anyone that could truly challenge them until the Maximoff twins in Sokovia.
No one, save possibly Hive, could challenge any one of them either.

Also, why didn't Yoda leave Dagoba with Luke, when he could've helped? Ultimately, it's because the story dictated it happen a different way, just like why Captain America isn't helping out in Hell's Kitchen.
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>>88376104
>wolf
>dragon symbol
>not Chimera
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>>88377203
Playing Star Wars vidya all week and avoiding spoilers as much as possible.

Wife already got us tickets. Saturday at 7:30, we have a gift card to a decent restaurant we're using beforehand and we have our seats reserved right smack in the middle of the theater.
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>>88377580
Homura did nothing wrong, only what was necessary
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>>88373539
Trying to make an EaW mod based on this concept. Sort of like EaW fucked TW
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>>88374291
Wait. What happened to Boil? I thought he lived through the Clone Wars.
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>>88377631
>Wife
Do theaters allow people to bring in body pillows?
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>>88377630
Wolf isn't the name of the star destroyer, anon, its an artists name or something, I think. And if you look more closely at the bottom of the ship you'll notice squid like tentacles, and below that spider like legs. Now what kind of creature might have all that, and dragon heads?
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>>88376963
>In reality, story group is just a PR team to handle attempts of canon police by fans
You can't be this retarded.
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>>88377520
>>88377564

It's mind over matter. In theory there is no upper limit; that was what was executed so badly in The Force Unleashed. Starkiller was raised to see the world without limitations, so he could accomplish things that were 'impossible'.

>TL;DR

It's your own expectation that limits you. You KNOW how heavy an X-Wing is, and that it's 'impossible' to lift that sort of weight. It's a 'there is no spoon' argument. When you are manipulating an energy field that has no quantifiable limits, indeed everything is part of it, there is no tangible difference between lifting a pebble or shifting a Star Destroyer. It how well you grasp that fact, truly believe it, that matters.

Even Yoda still exists in the material, and isn't perfectly enlightened, but he understands the X-Wing and it's weight are irrelevant. Because he isn't really lifting it.
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>>88373388
I can get behind this list

PREPARE TO BOARD
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>>88377520
I believe it has to do with a Jedi's concetration. Yoda lifting the X-Wing and saving Anakin and Obi-Wan is different because of this. Yoda was in the middle of an intense duel and suddenly had to concentrate on this falling object. When he's lifting the X-Wing, he's calm at peace and passive. If you notice, HK-47 and even Grievous take advantage of this by constantly distracting a Force user in the middle of combat.
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>>88377604
>And where were the Aftermath/Shattered Empire/Lost Stars references in TFA?

Events that take place decades before TFA? The same place references from the events of the OT were. I was thinking more about like the Poe Dameron comic or Bloodline. The movies should reference those.

>No one, save possibly Hive, could challenge any one of them either.

What about all the other superpowered jackoffs and aliens that the AoS mooks deal with? You telling me they'd not be worth the attention of the Avengers?


>>88377665
>I thought he lived through the Clone Wars.

We actually don't know what happened with him. If he survived, then he'd certainly have incentive/an excuse to go back to Ryloth after being discharged.
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>>88377604
>And where were the Aftermath/Shattered Empire/Lost Stars references in TFA?
Can't speak for Aftermath but we see Ciena's destroyed Star Destroyer in Jakku and for Shattered Empire we see Poe's parents. Both of Poe's parents have impact on him being a good guy since they served in the Rebel alliance and alongside Luke, Han, Chewie and Leia.
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>>88377844
HUT!

Getting involved in the Separatist War was bad for the jedi, but god damn was it cool

>The first time you saw Kenobi wearing clone trooper armor in Genndy Wars
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>>88377857
>Events that take place decades before TFA?
Pretty major events, though. Not so much for Aftermath as for Bloodline, but still.

> The movies should reference those.
Spoiler alert: they won't.

> You telling me they'd not be worth the attention of the Avengers?

In real life? Sure. But in real life, Superman and the Flash would clean up Gotham in a matter of hours, and no comic explanation can convince me otherwise. It's fine for the comics though, because otherwise we wouldn't have Batman stories.

The same is true for AoS. Captain America and Thor don't show up because it's not a show about Captain America and Thor. They're not gonna help out with Vulture either, because it's a Spidey story. Tony will help out, though, because that's what the writers wanted to do.

I'm not saying the TV shows are important to the heads of Marvel Studios. Or that they're necessary to understand them. Or even that they're good. But they're objectively canon. Maybe they're not part of your headcanon, and that's fine -- it's what being a comic nerd is all about -- but the powers that be consider them canon, even if they view them as less-important side stories.
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>>88377926
>Can't speak for Aftermath but we see Ciena's destroyed Star Destroyer in Jakku and for Shattered Empire we see Poe's parents. Both of Poe's parents have impact on him being a good guy since they served in the Rebel alliance and alongside Luke, Han, Chewie and Leia.

You're getting there backwards. Those are things from TFA that later showed up in other media. Like how we now know how the Antilles from the Tantive IV ended up as part of the Rebellion, even though we didn't know that when ANH came out.
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>>88371359
Or you could stop being a self-entitled thief and pay for an actual ticket and go watch it in the bloody cinema, you embarrassing cheapskate.
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>>88378124
>piracy shaming on 4chan
oh this'll go well
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>>88377929
I was just rewatching that episode a few minutes ago. Also why hasn't durge been reintroduced into canon? He was such a badass, probably my favourite bounty hunter
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>>88367613
Yes, they have holovids and even porn.

Lost Stars had made a point on that.
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I haven't checked the Pastebin for the Mega with a lot of the books. Are many of the Legends canon books available in the epub format?
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>>88378242
too OP. Also dead in one season
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>>88378219
You know it's just an excuse for someone to post lazytown pirate memes.
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>>88378401
Next closest thing
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>>88378083
If you go by release date, Aftermath, Lost Stars and Shattered Empire all came out before TFA.

We can't go by "but this idea was made for TFA first and recycled into a book/comic!!" because we don't know when it was added to the movie in conjunction with it being written/drawn in other forms. That's something only the LSG, JJ, and the book/comic writers and artists know.
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>>88378496
For what it is worth, I'm pretty sure Stephanie could take Kylo Ren. He's kind of a punk bitch.

And holy crap did people back in the day get a lot of mileage out of that Natalie Portman scene where she's a stripper with pink hair.
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>>88378521
>If you go by release date, Aftermath, Lost Stars and Shattered Empire all came out before TFA.
>We can't go by "but this idea was made for TFA first and recycled into a book/comic!!" because we don't know when it was added to the movie in conjunction with it being written/drawn in other forms. That's something only the LSG, JJ, and the book/comic writers and artists know.
You're right. But you can't honestly believe that JJ Abrams was taking major beats from Lost Stars.

My whole point is just that the MCU is exactly the same shit as Star Wars, even if SW is a little more tight-knit. Marvel says the TV shows are canon, and Star Wars says the same. Pretending they're any different is stupid.
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>>88378604
>But you can't honestly believe that JJ Abrams was taking major beats from Lost Stars.
Who said he even read it Lost Stars? Hell, for that matter who said he can even read?

But the LSG was specifically created to tinker here and there and anywhere they damn well place sprinkling in a dash of Lost Stars, a pinch of A New Dawn, a smidgeon of Lords of the Sith, etc.
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>>88378604
>Marvel says the TV shows are canon, and Star Wars says the same. Pretending they're any different is stupid.
You know that parts of the television cartoons are appearing in Rogue One, right?

This isn't a case of "Oh yeah, it's canon, but we won't show it [in the movies]." It's a case of "It's canon and we are showing it [in the movies]."
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>>88378629
I see a Tartan-Class Cruiser on the Imperial side. Nice
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RUN, Ahsoka, that owl is coming right for you!
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>>88373932
I suspect by Bane's reaction to going back into the tomb that the force priestesses can actually reorganize someone's force essence back into their consciousness similar to force ghosts. Bane was an illusion in that he was only going to be a sentient being again to test Yoda but he was also technically back from the force briefly and was terrified when he was being put back into the force in his natural unorganized manner where he doesn't have sentience and can't take the form of a ghost. I suspect it was the force priestesses who allowed Anakin to be a force Ghost.
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>>88377828
>tfw we have nothing like this and are bound by the limits of our reality and what we make of it
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>>88371359
Why the fuck do you expect a rip of the LA premiere of the movie? That is likely the most secure showing of any movie that will ever be done in it's run. That's like seeing demos of a game at E3 and saying 'What the fuck guys? Where's the torrent for Breath of the Wild?"
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>>88373169
>tfw I prefer his voice and characterization is the Obi-Wan and Jedi Starfighter games for Xbox
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>>88379014
We don't really know what the Nightsisters were, however I'd argue that it's between them using an aspect of the Force that is different from the Jedi and Sith.

The Nightsisters, assuming they DO have a means of capturing the Living Force from dead/dying/otherwise willing Sisters, it's a form of sacrifice to the Sisterhood. Like their zombie sisters. Corpses of Sisters infused with the Force to fight in defense of their Sisters. It's a kind of service to the group that Sith simply do not have in their nature.

Of course there is the method and then there is the purpose, which do not have to be the same. Nightsisters have been shown time and again to be adept at Living Force manipulation. They could pull it out of people and contain it, keep it from becoming one with the Force. IF they could manage to pull in a consciousness along with the energy then they could effectively bind "souls" to an item. It's not the kind of immortality I can imagine a Sith wanting, though. A sacrifice of their bodies, trapped in an item, dependent on it to survive, vulnerable should it be destroyed. The potential possession would be nice, I suppose, but they'd be limited by what hosts they can find. Not all would be suitable and it isn't clear what powers they could manifest. For instance the Sabine one just had wall crawling, but the Kanan one was doing SOMETHING with the Force which isn't clear the Sabine one, lacking a Force connection, could do.
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>>88379230
Holy shit, someone actually played Obi-Wan?!
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>>88379125
They had Death Troopers guarding the camera operator, no doubt.
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So is Obi-wan actually going to appear in Rebels or are they cockteasing us?
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What the fuck is this thing? Appears in one of the maps in battlefront
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>>88379266
It was probably my favorite lightsaber combat game for the longest time when I was a kid. I spent waking hours playing it on the large screen in the basement with my friends, trying and failing for so long to beat Darth Maul. Also the fucking Jin'Ha. The duels against the Jedi Masters were the absolute best, though. Saesee Tiin was frustrating as he really did represent how difficult things would get from that point on.

It's probably one of the more unique Star Wars games I've played and I'll always have fond memories of it.
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>>88379429
A dianoga
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>>88379266
Not that guy, but I played Obi-Wan.

The whole shitty game is worth it for the Star Wars-flavored ripoff of Ewan's Trainspotting monologue.
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>>88379266
That game was fun
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>>88379444
Also the final level after the credits where you had to duel the entire council in a battle royale was the craziest shit. You thought all those lightsabers on Geonosis were something? You'd clearly missed out.
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>>88379429
A Dianoga
It's one of the monsters that appear in the trash compactor on the Death Star in Ep 5
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>>88378743
>You know that parts of the television cartoons are appearing in Rogue One, right?
Yeah. And there have been characters show up in both the TV shows and movies for Marvel too.

>inb4 "but they were movie characters first"

So what? They're still the same actor, same character, same role, same world.
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>>88379444
>>88379495
Fun? I mean, to each their own, but I couldn't get past the dreadful graphics and terrible controls (you attack with the c-stick? Seriously?)
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>>88379690
>c stick

I played on xbox, and at the time the graphics were serviceable
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>>88379558
>Ep 5
Star Killer confirmed for actually being Death Star 4!!!
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>>88379429
I wanna fuck it.
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>>88379793
wops
Must have accidentally clicked 5 instead of 4
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>>88380011
>clicked
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>>88380083
PRESSED

I'M TIRED OKAY
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>>88380083
On-screen keyboards are a thing. But anon is probably being retarded
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>hated the Prequels
>liked TFA
>loved Rogue One

Uh-oh.
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>>88380149
Doesn't matter because he's Wesley
His opinion isn't so much right or wrong as much as it is something to be ignored regardless of whether you agree
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Just finished the final Darth Vader trade.

Why do people rave about this book so much? For me, it's by far the weakest of any Marvel SW series so far. The plotting is pretty solid, to be fair, but the characters just suck.

>Aphra
Not into her at all. 25 issues later and I still don't understand her purpose in this book.
>BT-1 and 0-0-0
Awful. I mean, the whole idea of assassin versions of 3P0 and R2 is neat, but they seem so out of place in this context and their schtick got old real quick.
>All those cyborg Vader replacements
Cheapens the Emperor/Vader dynamic. I guess it makes sense for Sheev to be playing the field looking for his apprentice, but it doesn't fit with his previous MO. First off, they're lame character designs. But he personally groomed Anakin into a bad guy, Dooku he took from the Jedi, and Maul ... I'm not exactly sure how he got Maul, but it's better than just "I got Cylo to build him"

The best moments were when all that was set aside and Vader was just in his element. Sheev was obviously great too, and I liked seeing Vader earn more respect from his master.

All in all though, still my least favorite series yet, and it doesn't have me hype at all for the Aphra comic; I just don't see the point.
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>>88378398
He's no more OP than Cad Bane or any other bounty hunter who can keep up with a Jedi
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>>88380149
Uh-oh what?

Liked TFA more than the prequels is literally the normal opinion for the public.
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>>88380237
I agree, the Vader comic felt like Legends at it's crazier points.
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>>88378629
>mfw no Kalani and a fleet of Vulture droids
I don't know why I keep wanting to see old Separatists fight it out with the Empire on the big screen, I'm just setting myself up for disappointment.
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>>88380149
>>hated the Prequels
So like most of the population outside China and 4chan?
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>>88380237
Vader is a comic with a great idea and some good moments but a lot of meandering. I think Gillen wasn't completely sure where to take the book so it has long stretches where it feels aimless.

I liked Aphra but I don't feel she's earned a solo book yet. The droids are just irritating, especially because the idea of an evil C-3PO isn't new and it's been done a lot better.
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>>88380299
Go away, JJ.
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>>88380353
We likely won't see Kalani's forces until after the Rebellion improves their odds, which could be done by winning a major victory against the Empire, such as destroying a certain battle station. Pablo's said just about as much.
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>>88380382
Show me proof of that, and no, a some random blogger/youtuber who drank the kool-aid doesn't count.
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>>88380353
They've implied that Kalani may recalculate the odds after the Death Star explodes and could potentially join the rebels once he sees that their chances of success aren't as slim as he thought.
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>>88380441
Proof of what?
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>>88380454
>>88380439
Droids can't calculate for the force. No wonder they're second class citizens
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>>88380406
>only JJ liked TFA
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>>88380597
Droids don't even rate that high
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>>88380596
Proof that the prequels are unpopular among the general public. Every casual movie watcher I've met liked them, they didn't love them or anything, but they didn't think they were ungodly abominations that killed Star Wars or anything. That whole thing is an internet meme started by bitter fanboys (and this isn't me saying the movies are flawless, or even good, just that the hate is blown way out of proportion)
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>>88380631
>current critics
>mattering
Fuck off, Pegg.
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>>88380631
JJ and normies loved TFA
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>>88377203
I'll watch it Friday with my family. It better be good cause so far the acting and Trailers look ok at most and i want to close this year with a decent movie
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>>8838065
>b-but the prequels were good and nobody hated them!
This is what Lucasite cucks actually believe
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>>88380631
When i and my friends watch one of the old star wars movies we feel like huge nerds. But when we see TFA it feels like we are watching a Superhero movie and we feel great
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>>88380597
I wouldn't be surprised if he could. He's not just a Tactical Droid, he's a SUPER Tactical Droid. One whose primary enemies were the Jedi, so he knows that while the Force is a thing he knows damn well that the Jedi aren't indestructible. He also calculated a CIS victory owing to the sheer number of droids over clones and certain the Jedi.

Sadly he didn't factor in his own team being a huge bag of Sith dicks.
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>>88380652
And what the fuck would prove that?

Pic related is as close as you're gonna get to data. If you honestly think that prequel reception was as positive as TFA reception then you were either a child when the prequels came out or you're wilfully ignorant.

>>88380679
>normies
>Liked TFA more than the prequels is literally the normal opinion for the public.

Most people are normies -- thanks for proving my point. The fact that you think their opinion doesn't count for general reception is why nerds get laughed at.
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@88380757
@88380776
Weak bait
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>>88380757
>using cuck unironically
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>>88380783
Kalaani should've realized that his calculations were faulty because they were based on an incorrect assessment. He isn't that great because he obviously can't see beyond the battlefield.
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>>88380793
>If you honestly think that prequel reception was as positive as TFA reception
I never said that. Learn to read.
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>>88380793
I never said their opinion doesnt count, I'm just saying that normies dont really care for star wars outside of the movies that have been deemed "good"
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>>88380850
>>>/pol/
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>>88380652
Well that and how China got the wrong message from the films.

>Democracy is weak, corruptible and will always give way to a strong central power, and peace only comes through harsh enforcement of the law.
Basically the wumao used it as a tool to prove that the Communist Politburo's policies of oppression are justified.
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@88380850
lmaoooooooooo
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>>88380835
I'd say he's good at surveying and strategizing individual battles but not the wider war
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>>88380835
I imagine they aren't programmed for that. I'm sure he can factor in some politics, but not much. You wouldn't want a droid general who can decide, "Wait, my side IS a bunch of assholes so why am I working for them?"

Right now between his age (lack of mind wipes allows droid brains to develop beyond their original programming) and the fact that his loyalty to the CIS is a moot point given they no longer exist as an entity and he's gotten the catharsis of closure for the war, he is in an interesting place. It'll be neat to see what they do with him.
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>>88380864
Ok sure, that's not how you said it. But prequel reaction was negative to luke warm. TFA reaction was overwhelmingly positive.

The original conversation was that most people dislike the prequels but like TFA. I'm not sure what the hell you think is going to "prove" that one way or another, but that's absolutely the popular opinion.
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>>88380801
>@
>@
>lmaoooooooooo
Is this some next level bait?
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>>88380889
>>88380801
Is this some kind of anti-(you) tactic or counter-trolling?
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>>88380917
>being this new
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>>88380917
He's avoiding giving them (you)s, have you seriously never seen someone do that?
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>>88380914
The prequels weren't disliked by general audiences, and no, critics are absolutely not "general audiences".
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>>88380891
He did pretty good with the war, I think. The problem is he didn't see Sidious' wider plot along with Dooku, but can we really fault him that? Not even the Jedi perceived it and they have magic spider sense.
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>>88380943
That was what I thought at first, but then I see >>88380889
>lmaoooooooooo
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>>88377203
Seeing it Thursday. Been lurking around trying to avoid seeing the wrong thing.
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>>88380943
At this point I think it's a little of both. Those aren't serious replies. It's more like someone doesn't want to give (you)s but just cannot resist replying anyway and somehow thinks the @s are better.
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>>88380961
The prequels weren't liked by general audiences, and no, /co/ is absolutely not "general audiences".

See? I can do it too. I'll ask again: How the fuck do you suppose I prove this to you? If you just want to base it off your own anecdotal evidence then go for it.
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>>88380943
>>88380991
>there are people who think it's the (you) that they want and not just the reply

jesus, people are dumb. making you take the time to change to "@" is probably even more satisfying for the troll
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>>88380995
You are too sheltered. Try meeting people who aren't internet fanboys, ranting every day about how Jar Jar Binks "raped their childhood". Regular folks don't give a shit about midichlorians or that kind of stuff, they just want to turn off their brains and have a good time at the movies. Which is why they liked TFA too
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>>88380914
>most people
>negative to lukewarm

You stupid nigger, do you have any idea what Cinemascore is?

A- isn't negative or lukewarm, normies LOVED the prequels and only latched onto jokes about how bad the prequels were once Didney's hype machine started playing it up.
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>>88377691
>its an artists name or something
It was the original codename and working title for Rebels and I guess its still around for production.
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So the leaks about Vader not using his lightsaber are confirmed fake, right?
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>>88380961
I'm loathe to leap into a Prequel-bait topic like Anakin on Mustafar, but by happenstance yesterday I was poking through information on ROTS and I came across

>The movie was so popular in the UK, that in the second week of release Revenge of the Sith sold more tickets than the next twenty movies released would combined.

>While many critics noted George Lucas's continued weakness with dialogue, Hayden Christensen's depiction of a more mature Anakin Skywalker and his slow descent to the dark side was praised, and Ewan McGregor and Ian McDiarmid's performances as the noble Obi-Wan Kenobi and the evil Palpatine respectively received rave reviews. Various critics have made note that they feel that the actors did a better job in general; though they, like in earlier prequels, have been displeased with Natalie Portman's performance.

ROTS certainly was better received than the previous entries, though this info is from the dread Wook. I'm sure it's dismissible as being a biased source and/or just delusional (and hasn't done a great job indicating their sources), but I know it won't matter anyway because this is the usual /swco/ paying the Troll Toll on a road we've been down many, many times before. Mostly I just like the second bit because it matches my own feelings on the movie well enough. I was not the best fan of the PT when it came out but felt ROTS did a good enough job. I prefer it with the deleted scenes for the early-Rebellion and certainly the context TCWs gave it.
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>>88381069
>implying cinemascore is what matters

Ok. Guess there's just no benchmark anymore -- any action movie is going to be well-loved now.

>every Fast & Furious but the first one is A- or better
>Hangover pt 2 is A-
>Madea has straight As
>Batman Forever is better than Returns
>Thor 2 is A-
>Man of Steel is A-

An A- CinemaScore is hardly rare. If that's your barrier, then MOST movies are well-liked by the general public and this is a pointless conversation
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>>88380943
This is the first time I've seen them do it. And it's still dumb as fuck. What's so critical about denying them 'you's. Unless 4chan has implemented a score system with (you)s giving anon points, I fail to see the purpose of it.
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>>88381271
Yes, most movies, including the prequels, are liked by the general public, proving that hating the PT is not the popular opinion. It's the popular opinion among fanboys, but not among normies and casuals.
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>>88381165
ROTS is objectively the best of the PT; I don't think anyone can really disagree with that. It had the best story and the fewest misfires of any of them.
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>>88381069
FWIW the hate for the Prequels is pretty textbook memes. The PT has its share of flaws and they were easy to repackage in "hilarious" fashion. Jar Jar makes it an easy sell. Star Wars is a cultural phenomenon and mockery of the PT has managed to write itself into that perception, at least in the US.

I wasn't a huge fan of the PT when it came out and never bothered to see ROTS in theater, but I remember being a bit perturbed when I realized that the feelings on the PT had gone from joking around to people actually taking the hate seriously. It's like it fed off the hate and ill-will inspired by the Special Editions and became this feeling that Lucas had lost his touch, or had become touched in the head. It goes beyond Star Wars and poisoned the fourth Indiana Jones. I dislike Crystal Skull for a number of reasons, and I remember loathing the Nuke the Fridge scene, but I have to admit that it really isn't any worse than Temple of Doom's scene jumping out of a plane on a raft and tubing off the side of a mountain and the damn thing didn't even have a leak.

I feel rather bad for Lucas these days.
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>>88381330
Ok fine. Then everyone likes every movie and opinions don't matter.

But even if you think it's just an internet meme, there's a reason why it's so common to see prequel hate. Because a lot of people dislike them (and no, I'm not just talking about nerds and fanboys).
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Feels like all you need to do to ruin these threads is mention the prequels and TFA in the same sentence.
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>>88381394
The prequels and TFA are Star Wars movies.
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>>88381394
You're wrong
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>>88381271
You debunked your own argument with your own evidence moron.

Yes, normies love shit movies, big fucking surprise! And outside of film critic review scores sites like Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic are NOT scientific studies, unlike Cinemascore.

Most people did not hate the prequels like you claim, especially outside of English speaking countries where the cringy bad dialogue is missed. Sorry you're wrong but holy fuck just stop digging.
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>>88381428
FUCK YOU
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>>88381442
My whole point was that cinema score is a shit metric to use. Plenty of movies received fine reception at the time only for that to change over time, and vice versa. There's been 17 years for people to change their opinions on TPM, and that has happened.
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>>88381487
>DOUBLE SAND PERSON
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>>88381499
Because those people drank the kool-aid. They wanted to fit in with the "cool guys" (i.e. Star Wars nerds, as paradoxical as that sounds)

And mind you, I do think TPM is bad, but c'mon.
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>>88381428
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>>88381375
ROTS was the first time I realized how bad the dialogue was, but the actors turned in great performances despite the poor writing, bad even though Lucas clearly shouldn't be allowed to handle things without heavy input he had a good idea if where to take the story.

Like you said most of the hate is just jokes and memes, but the average normie will just watch the films and not give a damn just like with Baymorphers and Suicide Squad. Only difference is the the prequels at least had heart and the people involved understood how much the films meant to people.
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>>88381499
Holy shit, these moving goal posts have legs on them.

You baseless point changed from EVERYONE i.e. general audiences hated the prequels, THEN it changed to just critics because Cinemascore proved you wrong.

Fucking sad man.
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>>88381394
hopefully after Rogue One comes out /tv/ will leave and we can go back to talking about Star Wars and waifus
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>>88381349
The thing with ROTS that left me less than satisfied is that there were certain things that had to happen, clearly, for the story to move into the OT. There was much I was willing to overlook and allowances I was willing to make because the movie could only contain so much. Still I never really bought Anakin's downfall, which was an essential element: the birth of Darth Vader. I could buy his reasons but not everything, like how quickly he went from horrified at his actions, reluctantly calling Sidious his Master, to outright murdering children. The whole "youngling" bit they kept doing really helped spoil the emotional impact, I admit, and made the whole thing laughable. There's a few more bits, like Yoda's willingness to give up the fight and surrender the galaxy to the Emperor rather than fight to the last, etc, but the last thread already got into that.

Nowadays I'm perfectly fine with the PT and can enjoy it as much as the OT despite the flaws. A lot of it is so much better with TCWs, especially the betrayal of the clones within the wider context of the chip in their heads.
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>>88381636
They'll linger for a bit while the movie is still out. Then we just need to watch out for the Episode 8 news to start ramping up. First trailer is going to bring back more shitposting.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoa6f2kuUso

Thoughts?
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>>88381057

This. I'm the only Star Wars fan of my circle of 'gaming/nerd' friends (there are ten of us), or at least the only one that has kept up with it in more than a casual way. One other guy followed it deeply around the Bantam/Zahn era.

Not a single one of them disliked TFA, all enjoyed it. (So did I, but I get that on this site at least i'm a minority.) But nor has it really made them any less casual fans than they were before. TFA only made new/hardcore fans out of shipping fangirls.
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>>88381636
Even waifu posting isn't immune anymore.

All the major CW waifus are dead and so is Tua, everyone loses their shit the moment anyone posts SS and Pryce, well...nobody seems to give a shit about her. And that's a damn shame.

Maybe it's the lack of a hat.
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>>88381701
>watchmojo
It's shit.
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>>88381572
Youngling, I think, was the worst miscalculation. I can deal with it on its own as a general term. Plenty of scifi series love having their own terminology for basic everyday things, and they aren't all as lovably far out as Farscape about it. But twice in the same movie having people trying to be heartbroken and anguished while saying "youngling" just...to this day I still crack up. Ewan unable to keep a straight face but at least Portman managed it. Maybe the negative reaction actually fed into her performance by upping her visible distaste?
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>mfw I posted that Wil Wheaton thing just to stir shit up
Feels good man
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>>88381744
Why are you such a faggot?
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>>88373126

Is Kit Fisto a council member? If not, Plo Koon
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>>88373126
Wait, there's a guy from Kamino in the council? How come they didn't know where Kamino was?
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So any thoughts about the new episodes revealed for Rebels?
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>>88371740
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>>88381744
Well thank you, I rather enjoyed my part in the discussion. It's always nice to talk about the perception of Star Wars as time has passed for the franchise.
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>>88373126
>Even Piell
>Yaddle
>Yarael fucking Poof
God, the TPM Council was so shit.
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>>88381817
He lied on the application, said he was a Wookie.
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>>88381817
That's Yarael Poof and he's not Kaminoan.
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>>88381846
what do you mean?
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>>88381846
What, you mean the Geonosis stuff?
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>>88381817
Yarael Poof isn't Kaminoan. In fact, he was digitally removed from the council in Episode II specifically because Lucas didn't want to confuse him for Kaminoans.
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>>88381739
Younglings came off the same as saying
preteens or adolescents, which just sounds strange to say in a state of high emotion.

I think "little ones" or something similar would've been an ideal replacement, at least in Padme's line.
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>>88381850
Those guys were so annoying to kill since every time I threw my lightsaber at them, the fucking thing sank in the water
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>>88381817
That's not a Kaminoan
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>>88381817
That's a Quermian. Not everything with a long neck is the same alien.
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>>88381883
Two new episodes slotted after the 40 minute Ghosts of Genosis special on the 7th of January.

Warhead

and then

Trials of the Darksaber (there is a thumbnail that shows Gar holding the activated darksaber)

Not sure if peeps know about this or not.
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So, what's the evolutionary advantage to get such a long neck?
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>>88379319
They already got the model.
He was in season one as hologram.
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>>88381934
Oh shit

I knew about the Geonosis ones but those should be awesome
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>>88381888
No 888, these:
>>88381934


>>88381934
I 4g0t the link, who the fuck knows if it's legit but w/e
https://jedi-bibliothek.de/2016/12/zwei-neue-star-wars-rebels-titel-fuer-den-januar/
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>>88381883
Next two are "Ghosts of Geonosis"
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>>88381966
Jedi-bibliothek is as legit as it gets.
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>>88381966
That site's pretty reliable so I'd trust their news. I remember they broke a lot of the season 6/lost missiona material for TCW like episode titles and such.
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>>88381899
I find it hard to believe that people didn't point out to George that it was sabotaging the emotional impact of these scenes, especially with Ewan fighting to stop himself laughing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SqTR0DorSw

But I think I can imagine how Lucas rationalized it. To him it works within the Star Wars universe because youngling is a word they use and it wouldn't seem strange to them. He seems to struggle with sacrificing what he feels is the integrity of the story to be true to itself, being as realistic as its own universe, when it just doesn't work in a real-world context.
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>>88381945
The model would need some heavy updating since it is ROTS era Obi-Wan and not the old wizard of Tatooine.
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>>88381942
Poontang?
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>>88382002
>>88382020
Okie then.

So predictions? Most of the time episodes are centric around a duo so what's the duo for the first episode?

I'd like to think Chopper but no idea. Certainly sounds like a Thrawn episode though - but right after the 40 minute special? Maybe it will be more lighthearted.

The second episode, Sabine obviously. I hope Ezra because he'd just keep calling them crazy and him and Sabine had crazy good chemistry/teamwork in Supercommandos and Iron Squadron, but I'm expecting it to be Hera.
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>>88382031
George became weirdly obsessed with treating certain aspects of his universe like hard scifi, despite it being squarely in the fantasy range of things.

English writing in the OG? Better change it to space symbols. Force is too mystical? Microbes or whatever have a hand in it now. Surely they wouldn't say "children", perhaps "younglings" will do?
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...why the fuck am I more hyped for the next chapter of Telltale (fucking Telltale) Batman than I am for Rogue One?

It's no SW fatigue, I'm already as hyped for VIII as I can be for something a whole year away.

Hell, I'm more hyped to see where Rebels goes than Rogue One.
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>>88381942
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9hcvIxASAI
Snusnu
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>>88382253
Maybe it's a subconscious thing because you already know how Rogue One ends because you know how A New Hope begins so you don't feel too invested in the plot.
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>>88382310

I think that must be it. At least it'll be a nice day out with my good friends, we'll have some nice food, and then watch the Classic era rendered with modern tech. It'll be nice to see Vader again on the big screen, even if he does fuckall for less than five minutes.
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>>88382135
>Chopper and Zeb have to disarm a warhead in a parody of "The Rock"
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>>88382367
Perfect
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>>88382253
There's nothing about Rogue One that is particularly hype worthy besides the fact that it's a Star Wars movie. That alone would've made it special if it had come out before we kicked off this new cycle of Star Wars movies.
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Soooo... I found a new Shipfu. Need more Info on that transport.
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>>88382623
Which one?
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>>88382253
If you're hyped for anything from Telltale we can already tell you've got shit taste
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>>88382253
I like the idea of anthology movies.

If they do well, we get more.

Even more so, we are likely to revisit the characters from these anthology movies in animated series or future movies/books.
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>>88382678
>HOT /TV/ ON /V/ ACTION!
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>>88381850
now that the Heavy Repeater is canon I want that badass flechette gun back
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>>88381701
>9. Starkiller Base
>1. Tatooine
Seriously? I mean, yeah, Tatooine is a classic since it's the first planet we see proper but goddamn, you can't excuse that #9 choice. It's pretty obvious they felt the need to include a ST planet and that's it.
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WHY THE FUCK WAS THIS CANCELLED?!?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m36e3gDg8RE
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>>88375062
I hate some of the changes.. Like making what happened after episode 6 go to shit. Giving them 3 years of more war then a cold war.. shit they should have left the battling go on for another 15-20 years like the old EU was.
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>>88382991
Battlefront 2 space battles look/feel better than that. Is that an alpha?
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>>88382991
MY DICK
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>>88381903
>>88381913
Kaminoans are a lot sexier.
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>>88383260
You got that right
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>>88382881
I'm surprised they bothered to include a TCW planet, but Mandalore is probably the most normie friendly
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>>88383121
While I'm not the biggest fan of the new canon post-RotJ, what was there in legends was pretty shit too. It really watered down the Rebellions victory. Especially the Vong and trying to make it out like the Emperor had the greater good in mind.
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>>88382881
It sounds like they wanted to include the Death Star but couldn't out of a technicality (it's not a planet or a moon) so they chose the closest thing/
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>>88382991
Because it would have been too fun
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Finally got caught up with Rebels. Tom Baker is a great addition to the voice cast, Bendu is a great character, shame they can't show up more but I think they were used well thus far.

Question about the last episode, which I'm sure has been discussed to death already: Did Maul bring the Darksaber with him to perform the ritual? I don't recall that, it seems to have just popped up out of nowhere to cram in more Mandalore backstory.

The aforementioned element is perhaps the weakest link in the chain regarding Maul's character, it's an example of hyping up a character via hearsay that doesn't really work out in my opinion. Supposedly Maul's a big deal because he was influential in Mandalore for longer than what we saw in TCW, but something about how this is portrayed in Rebels comes off a bit weak (ex. Sabine's line about it being "a dark time for our/my people" rings a bit false). TCW suffered from the Maul-hype problem as well, particularly in his return: it was treated as a big moment (and it was), but the execution came off a bit ham-handed.

Still fun, and naturally the Nightsisters had an attraction towards possessing Ezra. Apparently he's pure SS-bait.
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>>88383260
This is correct
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>>88383618
>>88383281
I kind of hope we see them during the OT-era. I could imagine Kamino being either super pro-Empire or anti-. They could be pro because they were pro-Palpatine, who let their Senator get away with blatant war-profiteering during the Republic. They could be against the Empire because they're no longer getting massive contracts to produce armies of clones anymore.

This is pure headcanon, but I kind of imagine them and the Chiss being solidly "middle class" about the whole thing.
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>>88383604
I wonder if Maul even saw Bendu since Bendu did the whole Batman thing by disappearing of if in the future we'll end up with a Poor Little Bendu series.
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>>88383604
It had nothing to do with the ritual, but it was still in his possession the last time we saw it. Him still having it isn't really out of place.
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>>88383604
>Did Maul bring the Darksaber with him to perform the ritual?

No he just kind of had it there along with a bunch of his other stuff. Its implied he's been living there for a bit and just sitting around being obsessed with Obi.
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>>88368201

As cool as the tabletop game is, I am tempted to just get the figurines as collectibles.
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>>88383700
I don't really see them being anti-Empire unless the Empire specifically did something to them. If they just terminated business with them, I'd imagine them not being happy but treating it as just part of the business.
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>>88382678
you realize Telltale was founded by ex Lucas Arts employees?
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I was thinking about the First Order today and I thought of something really cool that would actually work pretty well. What if the First Order completely denies that Palpatine died (similar to weird places like North Korea, etc) and Palpatine is still Emperor while Snoke is his second in command? Obviously Palpatine is dead, but what if Snoke is right below him in the official power ranking which is why he's a Supreme Leader and not Emperor. This would also make for a lot of cool character growth for Finn who could be surprised that Palpatine actually died 30 years ago and that the Empire built the Death Star using slaves instead of volunteers and that the Rebellion didn't regularly commit mass shootings and terrorist attacks on innocent people.
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>>88369589

I got shivers.
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>>88383744
>>88383774
It wasn't really a question of why Maul had it, more of episode/scene continuity. Sabine grabs it after getting possessed, I just don't recall it being in close proximity during that scene. If I recall correctly, it suddenly appears lying on the floor when previously it was in Maul's Cave of Depressing Memories.

>>88383724
Bendu's maxed stealth stats are hilarious, he's the perfect sort of weird for Star Wars to get into. That still doesn't stop me from imagining him chuckling like a fuckle whenever he decides to mess with Kanan.
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>>88383933
>Bendu's maxed stealth stats are hilarious, he's the perfect sort of weird for Star Wars to get into. That still doesn't stop me from imagining him chuckling like a fuckle whenever he decides to mess with Kanan.

>I want to stop seeing Maul!
>Well in that case, don't turn around.
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>>88383933
>. Sabine grabs it after getting possessed, I just don't recall it being in close proximity during that scene. If I recall correctly, it suddenly appears lying on the floor when previously it was in Maul's Cave of Depressing Memories.
she fought ezra with it, while being possessed.
He pushed her into the light and then took it from her.
He then went back to get Kanan, and destroyed the altar. The altar went kablooey and sent the thing flying. Sabine came in in spite of ezra not telling her to and then she picked it up after Ezra helped Kanan up.
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>>88383933
Ezra used it to destroy the altar, so it definitely was close by when Sabine came back to the cave and found it
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>>88384070
I'm not talking about where Sabine got it after the fight but rather at the beginning of the fight (I now realize I mixed up those scenes). The last I can recall seeing it prior to Sabine getting possessed was in Maul's home, then suddenly post-possession Nightsister-Sabine wields it to fight.
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>>88384130
samefagging

I rewatched the fight scene.
>Ezra and Maul run outside the temple
>Possessed Kanan and Sabine can't exit
>they retreat back to the altar

Possessed Sabine grabbed it from Maul's house, that much is clear now.
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>>88382253
Well, based on the trailers alone I'm expecting two things: poor acting, and poor writing.

Unless the trailers were red herrings and they go the kill them all rout the movie is just a waste of time.
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>>88382226
> Force is too mystical? Microbes or whatever have a hand in it now.

Only in the sense that it lends to the fact that the Force is a literal existing thing. Otherwise there's nothing necessarily wrong with midichlorians, especially given the mix of science fiction into the fantasy setting. Given how advanced the galaxy is, and most certainly the Jedi at this point in time, it should really come as no surprise that they would want to study the Force not only on a spiritual level, but a biological one too. I personally find the potential stories it can yield interesting. I mean just now with TCW, we find that they have a hand in the transferal of consciousness into the Force. But even with that, there's shown to be so much more to it that no one really knows.
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>>88368145
>http://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/1764731#search=Seventh_sister

u wing a shit
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>>88384559
Anon, you got something you want to say to us?
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>>88384487
I can understand certain people despising it since faith is considered a fundamental aspect of religion. If you remove belief, if you render it down to a kind of science, then it loses all spirituality and becomes firmly lodged in the mundane. I can understand why people consider it apocryphal.

But that said I can see why George wouldn't share that sentiment because the whole faith aspects was already dealt a firm kick to the nuts the moment they started floating shit and choking people out without laying a hand on them. The Force never relied on faith. If we had true Clerics in the RPG sense, healing with a touch, banishing evil, etc, then we'd have that too. And I always found it ironic - though this is veering off topic - that in Christianity/Judaism/Islam these kinds of miracles used to happen quite often. Parting the Red Sea, frogs raining from the skies, angels walking among us, floods that wiped out everyone on the planet but Noah and his family, raising the dead, talking bushes that also happen to be on fire, etc. Hell, in order for a saint to be canonized in Catholicism you still have to prove that person performed a miracle (by the grace of God, naturally).
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>>88384675
Clearly he believes as long as Seventh Sister hasn't been drawn fucking it with her ladypenis then it just isn't worth his time.
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>>88384677
I think it's a little bit less about the Force being an equivalent to religion and more about how people were unable to fully articulate that concept during the production of Star Wars.

Midicholrians as a piece of science fiction are admittedly not that out of place, they are something which feels at home in a campy/pulpy sci-fi story from the 70's. It's one of those elements tying a supposedly dehumanizing technocratic/scientific worldview with a humanizing tradition such as religion. The basic assumption behind this move as an element of the setting is that scientific processes can be used to affirm a humanizing element (midicholorians are evidence for the presence of the Force) as opposed to being used to dehumanize or oppress people (repped by the Death Star in ANH and later Vader being a cyborg in ESB).

I'm not sure I have something against that in-concept, but with the particular case of midicholorians I just don't feel it fit. It could be because the concept just didn't agree with me, or that I feel it has not aged well as science fiction in the 21st century. Maybe it was their presentation/execution in TPM, maybe it was because they threatened to become a shorthand way to refer to powerlevels (Anakin having a higher count than Yoda fed into this), maybe it was because at heart they were really not all that necessary to explain the inner workings of the Force, I don't know but for whatever reason they failed to click with me.
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>>88384677
I don't think faith is completely undone by the Force's being a real phenomenon. It is a living thing, and has a will, whatever that may amount to. Its will is done by those who can hear and feel it. Anakin, given his unusually great connection to the Force, should have been able to hear and interpret the will of the Force better than anyone else had he not limited his training strictly to martial pursuits. Recall that he heard Qui-Gon's whispers to Yoda before stumbling upon Yoda in the courtyard, but brushed it off as tricks of the wind.

Regular ordinary people knowledgable of it would certainly have faith that the Force will eventually set things right - though it would be understandable that they wouldn't see that the Force doesn't necessarily act of its own accord, and instead trusts those sensitive to its touch to make that impact themselves. The Church of the Force is pretty much this. Chirrut too - he's Force Sensitive but is untrained in the more traditional powers it grants, instead using his connection to further his physical and spiritual training, in the end trusting its direction of him completely.
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>>88384952
>I think it's a little bit less about the Force being an equivalent to religion and more about how people were unable to fully articulate that concept during the production of Star Wars.

That I can understand, and I certainly agree with you on the pulp aspect given Star Wars has a firm foundation in the style of old pulp stories.

I don't disagree with midi-chlorians as a concept given that they don't actually harm or even fundamentally alter the Force. How long did they go between mentioning it again in TCWs, for instance? But yes, I do think it was badly introduced as a concept. For instance the most popular interpretation seems to be that they measure ones innate affinity for the Force, and Anakin having a higher count than Yoda proves his sheer potential. I don't personally agree with this given the Council didn't test Anakin's blood or take midi-chlorians as proof, they still performed with their flash cards to test him. I think, rather, it was proof to Qui-Gon that the boy was unnatural. Yoda isn't just a member of an incredibly long-lived species, he himself is 900 years old. You expect them to have an impressive life force. To find a mere human child with a higher count could be proof that he's truly a Vergence in the Force. If the Force was his father, if it in-essence created him, then you'd expect an unusually high level of midi-chlorians, right?
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karen traviss > dave filoni
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>>88385311
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>>88385099
That's a connection that has worked both ways in the past. In AOTCs Yoda perceived Qui-Gon's voice shouting to Anakin when Anakin was killing the Sand People. Yoda doesn't mention it, though the voice-over it when we see Yoda, the Grand Master himself only talks about feeling Skywalker's suffering.
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>>88385341
Thread's dead, page 9. He wasted his weak bait.
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>>88385311
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>>88385428
>>88385428
>>88385428

This will be a good thread, TRUST ME, okay?
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>>88383604
>Apparently he's pure SS-bait.
Yes he is.
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>>88385099
Off topic, but i like seeing other force user "clases" besides the Jedi and Sith, such as the witches, shamans, and monks.
Jedi are basically paladins and siths are dark knights
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>>88381903
That ain't Snoke. That's the guy who runs the cafeteria.
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