So I just started getting into comic books and I came across

Shit, I'm in the same place as you, OP. I've heard there was this run where moon knight's outfit is just negative space but they didn't say which. Does anybody know?

>>88352857
Like most things Bendis gets his hands on, he tends to disregard things that came before him. Just a warning if you're going to read by release date.

>>88352907
That's just amazing. I was drawn by the gritty dark tone.

>>88352857
Get the trade "From the Dead," it's absolutely fantastic. If you want some classic Moon Knight, go with the Moench run which I think was collected in a number of Epic Collections.

>>88352857

MK is fun as hell. I'd recommend starting at classic. Stained Glass Scarlett best tragic villain.

Bendis' run was shit though.

>>88352857
Read the Houston and Finch arcs then read Warren Ellis'

>Bendis

>>88353053
What are is she in?

Epic Collection Moon Knight 1-2 are your best bet, along with the current series.

If you have the cash, you might also want to get the OOP Essential Moon Knight V2 and V3. V2 has about six more issues than Epic Moon Knight V2 and V3 collects the rest of V1 and V2, several guest spots in Marvel Fanfare, and the first two issues of V3 (Marc Spectre Moon Knight) and West Coast Avengers omnibus 2

>>88353081
Retard, Lunatic is the first volume of Lemire's run. Keep pretending to read comics though.

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>>88353327
Is there a way to check when the new trade for the current arc comes out?

>>88353351
Except the image is of the first issue of Bendis's run.

Why didn't OP use Lemire's covers?

>>88352857
>does anyone have any recommendations similar to Moon Knight
Ever heard of this obscure character called Batman?

>>88353495
Because I'm new to Comics I'm general and I thought it looked cool. I didn't know I committed a sin.

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>>88352907
Warren Ellis' Moon Knight run, it's only 6 issues but it's great.

Stop being a filthy casual and start from the beginning.

>>88353504
I swear this board gets more casual everyday.

>>88353327
This so fucking hard

>>88353089
Issue 14 of the original Moench run

>>88353327
I ended up ordering the epic collections

>>88353554
You did.
It's ok though.

Cool MK layout thread?

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>>88353853
Cool MK layout thread.

>>88353823
Is there any other deadily sims I should be aware of

>>88353891
Generally avoid Chris Sims and any The Sims past 2.

>>88353686
>MK spends 20 years in the background as Marvel's Batman
>Rides the predictable contrarian wave for a couple more decades
Yawn

>>88353941

And for sins?

>>88353504
The "MK is a Batman rip" meme must die for everyone's sake: it only hurts readers who go there with doomed to fail expectations.

It's so untrue it's not even fun.

>>88354101
Isn't he closer to a Punisher or a Daredevil anyway?

>>88354009
Steering clear of Bendis' work in general will probably get you pretty far on this board.

Also generally don't read big event comics. Especially current ones. There are several exceptions, but most of them are just complete crap.

>>88353853
MK has oddly luck as fas as creative teams go: even the weakest runs had some cool pages.

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>>88354101
I know I'm new and all but I don't really see it either

>>88354188
I think it's because of the cape and that he throws things sometimes.

>>88352857
Don't listen to theses dicks, OP
Just read more comics

>>88354232
>don't listen to these dicks
>they're giving him suggestions on what to read

>>88354280
It's that old meme of "just read whatever and you'll turn into a comics expert".
So assholes like this guy just wants people to go read Ultimatum so they can waste their time figuring out that what they just read was complete fucking crap and they just wasted their time.

>>88353946
(You)

>>88353941
Anon... I like you.

What about John Simm?

>>88354150
The Punisher... I can see it. DD, not much.

>>88354601
I also got my hands on a few Punishers. I really like that too, I guess my scales tip to more of the edgier and darker comics

>>88354445
But they might like Ultimatum. People like shit things sometimes mate. You also form your own taste this way rather than being moulded by someone else.
I'm not anti rec, I'm just saying if the guy knows he likes Moonknight can't he use google to find more Moon Knight comics?

>>88354798
You should read crossed

>>88354101
>be Moon Knight and Midnighter fan
>have to constantly hear retarded "exactly like Batman lmao just read the real thing" memes
At this point I'm convinced anyone who parrots this shit never ever read anything with those characters. The similarities are extremely surface level for both of them.

Did Bendis start the whole Marc is crazy thing? If so, I could see why people would be upset that he changed the character so radically but fuck me, if I don't love that angle. Every book that focuses on Marc's sanity has been great.

I do sympathize with fans of the previous characterization though, because that sucks to essentially lose a character like that.

>>88353617

Ellis' Moon Knight was too short but pretty sweet. Nice homage to The Raid in that one issue as well. It's the only Moon Knight I've read so I can't recommend anything else.

>>88355368
It started with the Houston/Benson run. Which was fresh and intresting. But now it's kinda getting worn out.

>>88354186
It's the cape.

>>88355368
Moon Knight has always been crazy, which is one of the reasons no one believes him when he talks about his god and stuff.. Bendis just fucked it up by instead of having MK be crazy with different unique personalities he was just crazy dressing up as Avengers.

>>88355604
Current arc might be dropping the crazy.

>>88355699
>Current arc might be dropping the crazy.
So it seems.
But I'm more than prepared to be let down.

>>88355788
I'm disappointed with the angle they're going with Khonshu right now. Hopefully it's a little more interesting than ALIENS.

>>88354862
Given it's a shared universe, it's possible he has a really good story in a book that isnt called Moon Knight, you know?
It's like saying you want to read Doctor Strange because you liked the movie, and didn't think to look up Defenders.

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>>88353884
>bullet still in cartridge

>>88356223
A small blip in an otherwise great scene/story, and one that everyone always points out.

>>88355923
I'm half expecting a Morpheus reveal at this point And yeah Khonshu could probably be handled a bit better.

>>88356255
I feel like two or three people just refuse to stop talking about it.

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>finish Ellis' run of Moon Knight
>mfw continuing to the next issue and seeing the art and layout

>>88352857
Bendis' is pretty fun, if you've read Ellis' first. Sweet art, cool villain, novel approach etc..

>>88357091
It gets better later, but yeah that initial change is real bad.

>>88357091
I don't get it. I may be remembering wrong, but didn't they have nice art in that volume until like issue 14 or so? Almost the end of the run, and even so, it wasn't bad at all.

And then Lemire's run also has had great art too most of the time.

>>88357228
Oh, nevermind. I guess I mixed when the art changed.

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>>88355368
>>88355604
>>88355699
Any examples of pre-v3 crazy MK?

>>88357091
>>88357228
>>88357234
I liked all 3 arcs/writers. Was considering buying all 3 TPBs for a while.
Pity the last guy didn't get one more issue tho. Especially considering that his last issue is a bit of a cliffhanger.

>>88357311
I wonder if the story that Lemire has been building comes from that last story from the former run.

>>88355230
Well, it doesn't help that the superficial Bat-influences are totally blatant. Especially for Marc with all of his themed equipment.

But yeah. Moon Knight doesn't really stand up to the Batman comparison very well. I mean, people think he does, but that's really just because both Moon Knight and Batman owe pretty much everything they are to the Shadow. Especially, Moon Knight. He's so pulp that the only things that keep him on even shakey footing as a superhero are the Batman-like elements.

>>88357228
>>88357234
All the next artist does is grids. It's just fucking grids and empty space and he can't do a damn layout to save his life.

Ellis' work felt fluid and life-like and now I think I've seen the same layout at least once in an issue because they can't think of anything original.

>>88352857
Moench/Sienkiewicz run is the best, especially the later issues. Ellis run is second best.

>>88358003
Now that you mention it, he really gives that pulp vibe. Maybe I got hooked with him because of that.

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>>88358177
Besides, Marvel's real Batman rides a skateboard.

>>88357274
>you will never be scared by MK for shits and giggles

>>88356223
High value gun. You get 30% more bullet for same price. Is good.

>>88357311
The middle one was kinda weak but I liked the book end arcs.

>>88358427
That looks rad as hell, how long was this a thing?

>>88359258
Night Thrasher has been thrashing the night since December '89.

>>88359313
He's like Casey Jones, except not a sell out.

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>>88359258
Night Thrasher had some great moments in Contest of Champions.

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>>88357274

Serious question why isn't Night Thrasher on USAvengers?? Does Bobby just not know him

>>88359456
>>88359440
I'll be honest, I've been a New Warriors fan since I was a kid, but I didn't like Night Thrasher until Contest of Champions. He just Nineties'd his way through everything.

>>88359440
>>88359456
who's this bullseye / elektra chick?

>>88359518

contest of champions was different earth's versions of heroes, one was Elektra as Bullseye

>>88359518
Elektra from an alternate universe where she killed Stick and became Bullseye.

>>88359542
Well, Grandmaster's team at least. Collector used all 616 characters.

>>88357274
>>88357454

>>88359494
>Does Bobby just not know him
Highly likely. I can't think of any New Warriors/New Mutants crossovers. Night Thrasher's story in one of the CWII anthology books ended with the implication that he was moving to Baltimore to become their resident superhero, which seemed like set-up for a book that never happened. Same with Black Goliath Jr.'s story.

Although I could see both of them joining Hawkeye's Hard-Traveling Avengers.

>>88352857

Ellis's run was by far my favorite. 2nd being the series being published right now where you really get to see how insane he is.

Bendis is my 3rd (I believe he did the story arc where Marc thought he had all of the Avengers powers or actually thought he was them). That was great!

>vol 1 (moench with a new-on-job Sienkiewicz)
Great run. Stained Glass Scarlet is essential.

>vol 2 (dixon)
Forgettable

>Marc Spector: Moon Knight
First half is ok, but then "Scarlet Redemption" arc happens. One of the Best stories of Moonie. Read it. After that it's one of the worst things they have done to the character. The 90's in its full glory.

>Resurrection Wars and High Strangers
Good read.

>vol 3
Err, it's ok, i guess.

I didn't read everything after that. Ellis is good.

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>>88358704

Warren Ellis' run, as said by a bunch of anons, is pretty great. But you'll want to read Ellis' Secret Avengers run because it's pretty much the precursor to his MK run.

>>88358427
>>88359440
>>88359456
I feel as though whoever wrote this felt like Night Thrasher got the short end of the stick when he was killed off in Civil War.

>>88360406
Well, he did. Hell, all the New Warriors got fucked by Civil War.

>>88359657
Did you not read the volume that happened during Civil War, or did you dislike it for some reason?

Would anyone happen to have a list or be able to help compile a list of everything moon knights been in ? I've only ever read The main moony book and not other stuff he's in.

>>88360262
>But you'll want to read Ellis' Secret Avengers
Underposted rate.

Actually gimme a few minutes and I'll storytime it.
Sound good?

>>88360465
I'm just saying, you'd think that rich skateboard batman would have had a plan for stopping nitro. And wouldn't be involved in a TV series.

>>88360497
Not that anon but Ellis' SA is great, so I'm sure people here will enjoy it. Even though MK is only in about 50% of the issues.

>>88360483
http://comicvine.gamespot.com/moon-knight/4005-1493/issues-cover/

>>88360506
Funny thing is that the TV series nonsense was dead and buried before Civil War even happened.

>>88360497
>>88360541
I'll do his MK too, just need to dl the MK issues.
Gimme like 10 and I'll start SA.

>>88356223
Colts also don't shoot necked cartridges or spitzer bullets

>>88358036
The guy that drew the second arc after Ellis is actually the same guy drawing Lemire's series. His work made a massive improvement.

>>88355401
Ellis shoulda kept going with marvel now's moonnknigth, instead it gets hijacked halway through and stupid shit happens.

>>88352857
The gritty 2005 run is good, you'll know it when Moony looks like Batman becuase it was drawn by the old bats guy for the majority of it. They do some interesting tstuff.

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Run the mission.
Don't get seen.
Save the world.

>>88354150
He's basically a punisher dare devil. he uses everything he can, he doesn't try to kill people but he will if he has to.

Guy was a mercenary before becoming moon knight, and at this point no one knows if he actually has powers.

>>88353891
fuck that anon, Bendis' Moon Knight, while out of character, was incredibly fun.
Also only retards hate Bendis blindly.

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>>88361189
How many issues did it run for? I know I have some of it in my shortboxes.

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http://www.comicbookherald.com/moon-knight-reading-order/
Randomly Bing'd this and look what I found from earlier this week.

>>88359657
Sounds like you have only read those three runs.

>>88361247
Bendis' Moon Knight was 12 issues I believe. Was supposed to be an ongoing and also lay the groundwork for Age of Ultron, but it was such a clusterfuck that it turned into a mini.

>>88361189
>Also only retards hate Bendis blindly.

He deserves the hate he gets though. Just because you don't realize he is shit, doesn't make him good.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGaJzUc8BGE

If anyone else has seen this abortion of a movie, did this cover trigger you as much as it did me?

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Oh, and a special 'fuck you, cunt' to Hank "Beast" McCoy btw. Forgot to post that.

In case anyone needed some ammo for a Rightclops thread that last issue was a real landmine.

>>88361560
This cover just made me think of the demonic semi that Ghost Rider fought about 7 years ago.

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I really liked this WM armor. Shame Spencer's solo of him was dogshit past issue 3 or 4.

>>88361787
WM looking sleek is always interesting to me, though I prefer the bulkier style. The thinner version fits the idea of stealth missions.

>>88361787
>I will accept "Damaged"

I really liked how Ellis wrote Cap in this series. Very military, very in control and embracing being a black ops spy guy. Clashed with some other writings of Cap in the near future but I still thought it worked great.

>>88352857
Warren Ellis run and Jeff Lemire run

>>88361509
Bedis can cmpetantly write, and did some amazing work in early ultimate spiderman, and osborns charachterization, he even did good with carol's character with the drukeness.

I've no idea what happened to him to make him such a hardcore SJW, but I hate what he's become and I an never respect a man who calls his kid "London".

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>>88362540
>he even did good with carol's character with the drukeness.
Seems like you can relate, friend.

I agree, he has done some good stuff, though, but a safe baseline assumption is to just ignore it completely, especially post-Siege.

>>88361688
Couldn't Rhodey just go out there and fuck it up?

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Another big fuck you to Hank in this issue.
Fucking hypocrite.

>>88362904
>X-Force IS MORALLY WRONG! Now, excuse me while I create a nuke out of a car.

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Alas, I don't believe there is enough room to fit all of Ellis's MK in here before image limit.

I can make a fresh thread, but would anybody bother reading?

It'll probably be 20 or so minutes, gotta get gas for my car.

>>88363172
Guess not

>>88362090
Ellis loves the Satan's claw. He also had the Nick Fury/James Bond expy use it in Planetary

>>88363172
>>88364241
No pls do, I'm sure people will see and come in.

>>88364241
You do it

>>88365029
>>88365069
Ok.

Moon Knight

>>88365237

Ok I want to jump into moon knight and I see a lot of recommendations here, but wheres the best place to start? Epic Collection, Essential, Ellis, Lemire? I want to take advantage of Barnes and Noble's sale

>>88365314
Bless.

>>88362741
Holy shit has Maleev beocome a hack. Blatant tracing of the guns and room in panels one and two

>>88356108
I read that intro package that's floating around and into Shamballa. Should I pick up some Defenders stuff?