Actual Mega Man X comic never ever? it's not fair bros ;_;

Ian wasted the book.
He spent half of it telling us shit everyone knows and building hype instead of making entertaining stories.

>>88351997
>Wanting to fuck your sister: the comic

>>88351997
>tfw it ends on a ritual sacrifice

>>88351997
>that issue with the teenage girls naked getting raped and killed then turned into robots

Brazilian Mega Man was kinda hardcore

>>88351544
>He spent half of it telling us shit everyone knows
It's a children's comic, chucklefuck. You think kids no the ins-and-outs of Mega Man lore?
'sides, it's a new universe anyway.
And pretty much everything after the first couple of arcs was GOAT. Spiritus Ex Machina, Blackout, the MM3 adaptation. It's just a pity that MM3 was kind of crippled by the coloring.

>>88351997

The author slipped a rant in the first issue about the comic book industry in Brazil, he recommends readers to buy original characters from local artists and not licensed comics since nobody wants to buy creator owned content so the creators have to work in these products for a living.

He admits making up the bullshit in the comic since he had not much to work with, for him Mega Man is just about a robot shooting through enemies in sidescrolling levels and that in video games plot doesn't matter so he made his own plot since the video game the comic is based on barely has one.

>>88354711
Huge capcomfag and mega man fan since I was a boy. Are those comics actually good?

>>88354796
What a faggot.

>>88354711
>It's a children's comic, chucklefuck.
I'm sure the children appreciated each boss being introduced individually and either talking about how they don't want to fight but have to or REALLY like fighting.

Twenty four times.

The best stuff came out when they weren't adapting games, because most of the game adaptations were Sonic: Genesis tier.

>>88350217
Don't worry anon, it's just "on hiatus". ;)
Kill me.

>>88351997
Isn't this the comic where one of the writers actually tried to pull an editorial coup and replace the leads with his own female OC... only to get fired?

>>88354941

Yes >>88354796

>>88354802
They're great. They give the cast real depth; Proto Man and Wily in particular benefit a lot. Track 'em down.
(Also, the first arc straight up cribs lyrics from The Message from Doctor Light for dialogue, if you're a Megas fan.)
>>88354898
Nah. MM3's characterisation and fights were good, particularly with the payoff in the decommissioning scene.
I agree that the best arcs were non-game, though.

>>88354941
Yes.

>>88354802
It's mostly good, but leans too heavily on fanservice and nudges instead of strong storytelling really. The game adaptations and "flash forward" issues are more like glorified excuses for pinups of your favorite Robot Masters while the arcs about Proto Man and the OCs are actually fun reads.

Stay the FUCK away from Dawn of X, though. It's a four issue dicktease, and not even a good one.

>>88355025
>MM3's characterisation and fights were good
It was okay, but not worth 8 months.

>particularly with the payoff in the decommissioning scene.
Which was almost 100% Quick Man. The others barely said or did shit during that exchange, which was disappointing.

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Fun comic, I enjoyed it.

which megman do you like better? X or classic?

>Crossover with a bunch of Capcom and Sega characters
>Morrigan didn't show up
What is this madness?

>>88356849
They weren't allowed because tiddy.
No seriously.

>>88356992
Just have her cover chest with her wings when facing forward.

People give Flynn shit for the pacing but don't take into account
> editorial mandated 4-part arcs
> editorial mandated three crossovers and one anniversary issue
> Archie canceled the book to fund the relaunch of their main books

And for every person who says it was too reliant to the game formula, I see another foaming at the mouth they took any liberties at all.

It's a good book. It tried to be true to the source material, pay some lip service to the fans of the series and tell its own version of things. Your mileage may vary, but it's easily one of the most solid videogame books out there.

>>88354898
This. Nobody plays Mega Man for the story.

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>>88357398
I do

I freakin loved just about every second of it especially the original stuff. Flynn taking fuckin Super Adventure Rockman and using it to explain Wily's ability to bring back "dead" bots as well as using it to foreshadow the GB games (or at least V) was incredible.

But the last issue was total shit, I hope one day Flynn does a "Lost Hedgehog Tales" for Mega Man

>>88357798
How many times has Zero died and got better?
Even assuming that Mode Z isn't him and an approximation.

>Comic about to ship Protoman with a robot grill
>Comic is immediatly shut down.

lel, Capcom keeping Blues pure for his fangirls.

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>>88358166

I blame Paul.

All of it on Paul.

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>>88358166
Not as many as Sigma.

"Ready for the real thing?!"

>>88359332
PREPARE TO BECOME SPACE DUST!
Are you ready for your final journey?

>>88354898
Have you seen the fanbase this shit attracts? You get a lot people bitching if you don't do these adaptions and crying if shit isn't 1:1 adaptions.

You're right the best shit was from all the OC stories and things involving the DONUTS. However the book would have been compared non stop to Pender/Brazil shit and Ian pitching for X green lights.

>>88359466
That's true for any fanbase when something gets an adaption. I know people that still say there has never been a good Spider-Man or Iron Man film but the only reason they give is "It's not 1:1 to the comics".

>>88359459

TREMBLE WITH TERROR, YOU ARE FINISHED!

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>>88359459
THE BADDLE HAS JUSD BEGUN! JUSD DIE!
ZELLLLLLLO!!
I'LLSHOWYOUWHATATERRORISALLABOUT!

>>88359332
>>88359591
sigma ultron in infinite is gonna be the ultimate jobber isnt he?

>>88358073

I doubt he will ever be allowed to as that would be officially acknowledging the comic was cancelled, which Archie has went out of their way to not do.

>>88356849
Just get the Street Fighter VS Darkstalkers comic coming out soon.

>>88360384

>Udon
>soon

It'll be out by the end of the decade if we're lucky.

>>88360336

Why won't they? They aren't fooling anyone with this 'hiatus' crap.

>>88360384

>soon

Yeah, third week of December.

2018.

>>88360478

Because they don't want their name being mentioned in the list of Mega Man cancellations.

By putting it on hiatus until the license expires (which it hasn't yet as Archie is still doing Worlds Unite trades) they can then have people blame Capcom under the assumption the license renewal was too expensive.

>>88360384
Will there be a joke about Morrigan recognizing Ryu from her dimensional hopping fun, but Ryu doesn't know her because this is one that has never set foot outside of his world?

>>88360545

Man, fuck you Archie.

>>88360577

This is Udon Morrigan. She's never been in any crossovers either.

>>88360545
Isn't Archie studios in some deep shit now with their budget?

>>88360644

Supposedly Archie is always in shit with their budget.

Archie Sonic is selling worse than Mega Man was when they put it on "hiatus", Megadrive not withstanding.

And Fulop also pulled Archie and SEGA back to court. So Archie could conceivably lose the Sonic license at which point they will be pretty fucked.

>>88360711
>Archie Sonic is selling worse than Mega Man was when they put it on "hiatus"

Wow, was it the reboot?

>>88360711
Are they hemorrhaging money because a guy wanted to keep his enchiladas?

>>88360888
They lost a lot of money paying for that case, yeah.

Then more when licensed a bunch of Sega and Capcom characters for all of four issues.

And again when they failed that Kickstarter.

>>88360888
That shit was settled out of court. So while they lost a lot of money on that they are not loosing money on it now.

Basically Archie can't keep a fucking budget to save their life.

>>88360888
>>88360949
>>88360981

One of the reasons they settled the Penders case was because SEGA got tired of Archie's shit and basically said to either end or lose the license.

And now SEGA is back in court due to Archie. Oops.

>>88361117
So would they be best off just selling their assets and running?

>>88361192

Probably.

>>88361117
To be fair, at the time of Pender's shit Sega was busy buying Atlus. But now with this new case they've been called into, they're not the middle of buying anything.

Screw each and every one of them! Archie is shit and both Sonic and Megaman deserve better.

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>>88359219
every time.

I miss dynamo

>>88350217

>>88356632
Classic.

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>Megaman.EXE didn't get to be in the big crossovers due to licensing bullshit
Now there's a REAL crime against humanity.

>>88354898
Ian tried to adapt the series wrong. He made it about drama and not about action. There should have been a lot more clever use of weapons instead of just talking on the way in and a one-shot kill.

>>88358166
3 times during X alone, I believe. X1, X3 and X5 I think. Then after the retcon you might call his stasis until MMZ1 "death." And he certainly died once more during MMZ4

>>88366709
That at least works for Mega Man 2. Those robot masters all go down like little bitches if you have their weakness.
I'm talking 2-3 hits, here.

>>88357345
>editorial mandated 4-part arcs
Sonic Universe has this as well and doesn't drag nearly as much ass. The pacing is the writer's problem.

>editorial mandated three crossovers and one anniversary issue
Two of which were garbage, one of which you can't even excuse with "b-but editorial!"

>Archie canceled the book to fund the relaunch of their main books
Considering every book gets cancelled eventually, I don't see why this matters.

>And for every person who says it was too reliant to the game formula, I see another foaming at the mouth they took any liberties at all.
And you get people bitching when Spider-Man is/isn't single. People are gonna be like that. Regardless of how you feel, the strict adherence to game formula (to the point of using every stage no less) was to the detriment of the book.

>Your mileage may vary
Get out of here, TvTropes.
>it's easily one of the most solid videogame books out there.
Considering there are barely any Western video game comics and even fewer that try to become ongoings instead of limited series, that's not saying a lot.

>>88366709
His other mistake was going for MY DEEP LORE instead of character interaction. There's over 100 Robot Masters. You don't approach that by slowly introducing each one with vague characterization; you jump right the fuck in and endear the cast by having them bounce off each other. Powered Up and Proto Man's origin did it right, MM2 and 3 did it wrong.

>>88365460

It's for the best. Imagine Ian condensing the plot of a Battle Network game into four issues.

>>88369017
He could do it if he didn't try to recreate every scenario literally.

BN1 in particular would be pretty easy to adapt. One issue introduction that leads into Higsby, one issue about SciLabs that's a joint Ice/Elecman episode, one issue where the remaining WWW try to steal the element programs featuring Chaud, and a finale storming the WWW base and fighting the Life Virus.

Keep stuff like Stone, Bomb, Pharaoh, Bass etc for a followup arc, like they did with Powered Up.

>>88369017
Like he condensed Sonic Unleashed plot?

>>88359219
I wish Dynamo had more backstory, guy was interesting as hell.

>>88369137
X6 in general was interesting as hell.

>>88356632
Oo, shirtless Rock.

>>88369154
>Gate
>High Max
>Issoc
>Alia's backstory
>The Nightmare Virus

What a great setup.

>>88368997
>His other mistake was going for MY DEEP LORE instead of character interaction
And thinking he had all the time in the world to just adapt EVERY FUCKING THING too in that snail's pace.

In a market where mainstays like Spidey characters get cancelled back and forth that's way beyond naivétte.

>>88370721
The smart approach would have been to make the game adaptations as dense as possible and move through them quickly.

Having the 2bots launch one big assault would allow them to be characterized more thoroughly in fewer pages and open opportunities for more subplots and 1bot appearances. The entire decision to make 3 an 8-parter was assinine, and the fact that most of the best issues were spur-of-the-moment-filler is insane.

Like, he should't have copied Ariga, but his approach to the Robot Masters is the perfect way to introduce them without wasting entire issues on "This is my stage! Hi! I'm dead! Repeat!"

>>88360743
It was the 3 month hiatus they did to sell their new, hip Archie reboot.

A lot of shops just stopped carrying it.

>>88354711

Hitoshi Ariga managed to "retell" Mega Man's stories for kids and make it entertaining.

But hey, I wouldn't want to suggest your Lord And Savior Ian is anything other than perfect, right?

>>88372366

Hm. Karma.

>>88372829
No, just exceesingly stupid.

Even Gabrie, the worst editor the book ever had, knew better than to miss a month. They stiffed their freelancers, internal staff, wholesale customers and readers for a QUARTER YEAR with no warning or apology. That's fiscal suicide.

>>88373332

Ah well. Either way, good riddance.

just a quick bump

>>88368457
That's a kind of faithfulness I don't really need. Drawing out the fights would be better for the sake of the comic, I think. MAYBE with the exception of Bubble man. That'd make a good one-off joke.

>>88359591
that was X6

>>88372753
I vastly prefer Ariga's work, but Flynn is still good. For fuck's sake, Ariga adapted Megaman Soccer before Capcom even told him to.

>>88350217
X isn't as good as Classic anyway. Zero is the more interesting grimdark post-Classic series.

>>88379009
That's the difference between a fan and someone who finds the setting mildly interesting.

>>88379749
Even though Ian isn't a fan, I will credit him with how thorough his research was. His references were downright comprehensive. Referencing things like Bond Man, the lack of sliding in MM9 and 10, even some lesser known personality quirks of the robot masters from their archives in MMNB.

>>88379858
Some of it was too pandery.

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>>88370655
>Gate will never return

>>88381789
Definitely. The "Green biker dude" comment came out of nowhere, and he wasn't even all that green.

>>88381894
>Gate got cucked by Sigma because lolfuckyou.
It hurts.

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Pfft.

Want to really feel that dull, aching pain deep down in your gut?

>>88369154
>>88370655
I'd sure like to someone else try to tell the story, because the game didn't do a very good job.

The nightmare virus nonsense was all but completely unexplained in-game.

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>>88383208
Now now, it's not a competition. Being fans of Megaman, we all lose.

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>>88381894
Be honest. What did you like about him? He was just a yellow X. He didn't even act all that brilliant, we just had to rely on the game telling us he was.

>>88383609
You might as well rag on all the games for being "dated."

And the waifu thing isn't even the biggest reason to get into it. It's a charming retro adventure, not dissimilar from the early 3D Zeldas. If you can't overcome the admittedly archaic control scheme to enjoy the games, you are the one missing out.

>>88383316
Literally everything except his design.

>Backstory of espionage and betrayal.
>Tries to incite the public directly.
>Studies Zero and the viruses in-depth.
>Comes up with a unique armor that can't be damaged directly.
>Creates a completely different dynamic for the game than Sigma/Doppler/X-Hunters did.

Hell, his default design is just Generic Reploid + Lab Coat. That's pretty interesting in and of itself. Gate is the antithesis of what most of the X series was going for, in that he was all about execution and 0% style.

>>88383609
DASH1 is a legit good ass game and deserves to be held up alongside the ranks of 2, 3, 9, X1, Battle Network, and Zero3.

Then again, I think X6 is the best PS1 X game, so I know my opinions aren't popular.

>>88383799
I feel like you're romanticizing the actual execution of these elements. That said, I don't especially hate him. I just don't see a need for him to ever return.

>>88383900
>And given the fantards don't shut up about wanting to fuck Tron Bonne, it's a good complaint.
Hating a game for the fanbase is never a good complaint.

>>88383879
I don't think he should return, and I'm not
>>88381894

I'm just saying Gate was a good ass antagonist and totally has more to him than his design, which is quick and sloppy because X6 is the most rushed game in the entire franchise. He's not deep, but he's got more going on than most of the characters in the series which is why people like him.

>>88383900
>And humanity ended up extinct so Dr. Light's creation and Zero failed in the end.
Play the X and Zero games again. They are bleak as fuck. Can you really imagine the world returning to its former glory after extinction-class events like X5's ending?

>>88383900
>Comparing MML to C64
There is a point where you throw reasonable discourse out and you have far surpassed it. You may as well compare WinBack and MGS2.

>>88383922
I guess that's fair.

>>88383900
>What does it say that I want the villains to win and revive humans again? Megaman Volnutt is the true scumbag here, not the hero.
You're claiming it's OK for them to commit genocide just because "carbons" aren't technically humans. And this matters because of the asinine literal meaning of a "human." That's kind of fucked up, anon. If you don't believe a synthetic being has any value, you've really been playing the wrong series.

Isn't Volnutt a robot-human mix, just like everyone else in the MML era? Why else does he age and do other stuff that's even more advanced than the other MegaMen?

The bigger question is how the fuck did he get his name, since clearly there's no way Roll could have gave it as a baby.

>>88350217
Shame

>>88384850

Volnutt was apparently the last robot. That had his memories somehow put inside a Carbon body.

>>88384850
Roll got the name from a cartoon she watched as a kid. The real question is why the hell did Barrel go with it and why does no one point out how strange the name is or that it's from that cartoon?

>>88384850
Maybe Roll is just a couple years older than him, and babbled his name, which Caskett just made his name. He could have told Roll the story about her naming him.

>>88384965
Well, keep in mind overseas his name is just "Rock Volnutt" which sounds a lot less strange as a casual name than "Megaman."

>>88384987
They're the same age though.

>>88384883
That actually makes a lot of sense but if he just reset himself that he should have already had a carbon body.

>>88385032
Maybe Barrel really put off naming the kid.

>>88385032
He was a baby. He reset into a carbon baby. And his memories were placed into Data.

>>88385044
Lol I'm more curious as to how does Volnutt fits himself in that armor.

>>88384883
>Volnutt was apparently the last robot.

By that point in the timeline replioids and humans have been the same thing for thousands of years already.

>>88385106
Volnutt (Actually "Trigger" at this point in time) was a Purifier unit. I don't know where he's getting this "The last robot" stuff from, since Yuna and Sera are also units serving the Master. He's probably actually thinking of the Master, who is the last human.

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>>88385169
So they're Carbons?

>>88385170
That doesn't answer me question at all. Cute art though.

>>88385092
A lot of that isn't armor. You know how there are different kinds of shoes in the game? Like the skates, the ones that protect you from electrified floors, etc? Those aren't shoes, those are whole new entire feet he switches out. The different subweapons in the game work the same way, his arm doesn't fit inside them, they're whole new arms entirely.

>>88385254
Wow, kinda creepy actually but it makes sense.
Wouldn't surprise me if any Carbon can do that as well.

>>88384850
Reposting something I saw in another site, have we seen Volnutt eating, drinking and sleeping?

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>>88385253
No. "Carbons" are fake humans created for the purpose of seeing if the earth is habitable again, IIRC. Whatever manner of synthetics Trigger, Yuna and Sera are are probably not even comparable. As to how Trigger could even be reborn as these aging, humanlike synthetics called Carbons is likely a dramatic transformation. Especially considering Trigger had to basically become a fetus to do it.

Keep in mind we NEVER see Trigger in his Purifier form. But it's likely much more akin to something like Juno than his own carbon body.

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>>88385349
We see other characters eating and sleeping. And Volnutt is now a carbon too, so it's safe to say he participates in the activities.

Hell, even the primitive looking SERVBOTS eat. Wrap your head around that one.

>>88385361
>>88385422
All this just makes me mad that we never got MML3, I mean for fucks sake I bought my 3DS for it and Kid Icarus.

Btw, wonder how the lore fits in the Project X series where both Legends and X exist at the same time.

>>88385526
Project X is entirely non-canon to either universe. Most crossover games like that are just dismissed.

>>88385526
I always assumed that Classic -> X -> Zero -> ZX -> Legends.

Fall of Neo-Arcadia and all that jazz. EXE and Starforce don't really fit in anywhere, though.

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Do people really not realize that Carbons just started as basically stock clone humans and evolved and became their own race long after the original human race died out?

The whole point of the Master is that he was the last original human and was being kept alive by Elysium's technology well past the point in which he should have died. It's why when he goes to Earth with Trigger to see how the Carbons have grown and become their own people that he dies because he doesn't have the station keeping him alive anymore.

>>88385597
EXE and Starforce are like an alternate universe, and this is actually addressed in the games. It branches off with the rise of networks, while Dr. Wily's robotics advances are spurned by the modern world in favor of them.

Lan is actually the grandson of Dr. Light.

>>88385597
That is the canonical timeline. EXE and Starforce were always meant to be their own thing.

Legends is also like 2 million years after X.

>>88385662
Oh, yeah. "Hikari" and all that.

I wonder if you could somewhat possibly squish those down between Classic and X?

>>88385694
Not really, because even up until the rise of Reploids it's clear that Light style robots were still a thing because of how many of them still exist in some way in X.

You don't see any Light style robots in EXE or Starforce if I recall.

>>88385694
It doesn't really work out, because the world is on a completely different technological course. And the events of MM1 and MMEXE1 don't jive.

Hell, Rock, Roll and ultimately X were probably constructed because the Light of that universe probably never had biological offspring.

>>88383208

That's probably just your appendix.

>>88385629
Correct me if I'm wrong, since it's been ages. But I don't think it's ever spelled out that carbons are biologically human. It shouldn't matter anyways, because they are sapient beings who built their own society and are functionally human in probably every way. They're even a kind of offspring of humanity, being created by it and all.

>>88385592
I know it's non canon but I want to know how it's lore works in regard to the future.

Volnutt and X never appeared in the same game and all we got was X, Zero and Tron knowing of each other.

>>88385928
>Volnutt and X never appeared in the same game and all we got was X, Zero and Tron knowing of each other.

Well, Tatsunoko vs. Capcom had Zero and Volnutt in the same game. If it's canon to the Namco x Capcom/Project X Zone multiverse, then perhaps X and Tron know of each other by reputation, with Zero and Volnutt being the respective middlemen for that info?

>>88383316
He's the most well written villain in the X series, and definitely one of the top franchise villains.

His backstory is really fleshed out and he has real motivations. He's fueled by resentment and anger at those who betrayed him, and he brings up the very hypocrisy that his creations were feared and goddamned assasinated for being too advanced, so complex they couldn't be analyzed, when X and Zero, who he had held up as his standard, are given a free pass despite Zero himself containing inherent risks given his background and what Gate found in his DNA.

In the end he was just a fairly generic scientist nerd who was scorned and getting infected with the virus let him act out his revenge fantasies.

>>88385597
>Classic/20XX
>X/21XX-22XX
>Zero/No date given but presumed to be 23XX since all it says is "100 Years after X"
>ZX/Again no date given but presumed to be 25XX since all it says is "200 Years after Zero"
>Legends/8XXX, though I cannot remember the reasoning for it

Battle Network and Starforce are in a separate timeline together. I believe Battle Network is set in another 20XX, since Dr. Light there went into AI instead of robotics.

>>88385361
im pretty sure we are led to believe that Trigger's body is not entirely different from Carbons. This is the idea that ZX was trying to lead up to, the merging of Humans and Robots to the point where there is no longer a difference. We never see Carbons bleed. yet despite technology being very much late 20th century, there is advanced prosthetics technology. people seem to swap out limbs and organs willy nilly.

if the master was the last Human, and Carbons are artificial Humans, (and assuming that the Master was some form of cyborg) its not unreasonable to assume that Carbons and system units are similar. After all, Yuna mentions that she used her own body to heal Roll's mother, which resulted in her body being unable to function, at which point she just took over her instead.

And they were easily mistaken for "ancients" by everyone else. despite possibly not aging, and having designs more in line with Elysium and it's people, they are likely very much "human"like.

also, Trigger replaced his body. They never explain how this works, but many diggers replace body parts to make their work easier. Rock replaced his entire body. And we don't know if the human body we see in legends 2 is real or some kind of prosthetic. Like, can he just swap out his body for another, or are both bodies replacements?

>>88387125
Yuna and Sera are clearly mistakable for carbons in appearance, but I don't think that lends credence to what you are saying. Yes, ZX had plot points about the differences of humans and reploids becoming nominal, but I don't think that statement is at all reflective of carbons, who are an entirely new race. Carbons augment themselves with technology found in ruins which suggests questionable biology, but again... Trigger had to be reborn from a baby to be a proper carbon. That suggests it's a pretty substantial change.

Also, what do you mean "he replaced his entire body?" I don't recall that plot point. If you mean the arm attachments, that's kind of vague too, unfortunately. The arm upgrades may be a part of his outer suit, could it not? While logically in reality it might be wise not to have your hand inside a giant bazooka arm, I'm not sure that's not what is going on.

This is all the difference between them internally vs. appearance. So it's really difficult to gauge without some kind of schematic for either being. Carbons were created for a specific purpose of gauging human livable conditions, so they're probably not that similar to the Masters' assistants, I would imagine.