Adventure Time: Islands

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Hopefully, they'll put more effort into promoting this than they did the finale.

>>88296869
dat Susan

>>88296869
Yeah, is this a "Holy Shit, they're promoting Islands!", or "Holy Shit, new intro"?

>>88296952
more susan is always good, especially for more art

Is Islands their new mini-series? I haven't really kept up since Stakes.

>>88296976
Possibly the first one. Stakes has its own intro too.

>>88297095
Yep, it's kicking off Season 8.

and the light cloud?

>>88296542
god dammit what happened to fins arm this time?

is it worth watching the new seasons just to find out?

>>88297257
not really, it just happened in the latest episode. Spoilers it pops off when his grass thorn forms into a weird grass guy thing, we've yet to see anything past that. he gets a robo arm some time after that.

depending on when you bailed I think it's worth watching the new seasons because they're pretty aight, depending.

>>88296542
I assume that's Finn's new sword.

>>88297987
Damn, I didn't even notice it was a different sword in the title!

>>88296542

>it's another "Fins's hand and sword gets changed"

How many fucking times did they do this

Is this just a season theme like Regular Show in Space

Except it's not the final season

>>88297160
That will probably be part of Islands.

>>88298115
It's another mini series like Stakes.

>>88296869
>>88296542
I thought Finn had gotten his arm back?

>>88298182
Yes and no. It was the Grass Sword the whole time. At the very end of Reboot, it apparently decides "fuck this sparing-people's-lives shit," pops itself off, absorbs the Finn Sword, and becomes some sort of grass-monster-doppelganger thing.

>>88296542
Oh look its fucking nothing

>>88296869
''Rebecca Sugar spit'' shots fired!

>>88298182
Turns out he did not, and it was implied from the moment his new hand appeared

it was basically a plant parasite with a mind of its own, and in the season 7 finale it betrays Finn

>>88296542
>The actual protagonist finally is gonna get actual focus.

Took them long enough.

>>88298239
>>88298436
well shit

I haven't watched adventure time in almost two years.
i need to get back to it

>>88298467

>The actual protagonist finally is gonna get actual adventure focus

The love struck fin arc was trash

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>>88296542
>>88296869
Why would anyone mutilate the protagonist of a kid's show?

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>>88298650
>Implying people treat kid's shows as kid's shows
If there's an unusual object in a whimsical land you gotta blow it out of proportion.

>>88296542
>susan with hat

meh

>>88296869
>susan without hat

YES

>>88298467
>implying Susan isn't gonna be the focus as she says good bye to Finn and live out her life in some dumb island far away.

>>88297257
Yes. AT has always been good. only a few bad episodes in season 5.
>>88297291
There has been an ongoing sub-plot about his arm during the whole season, though.

>>88296542
WHEN DOES IT AIR?

>>88298090
He change swords since season 1.
It's the second time he lose his hand.

So Jake was just being dramatic after being crushed by that anchor I guess.

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So how long until his arm grows back this time?

>>88298933
bout tree fiddy

>>88298933
Never. Cyborg Finn is here to stay.

>>88298956
Expectations like that is exactly how AT fucks you to death man.

I'm happy about the arm but stay guarded, what's been done in the past can repeat and storyboards from future episodes didn't seem to portray him with the robo arm. It's still possible they're revert it again in some way.

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>>88298933
I give it until the end of this series of specials
Then they'll just have the Queen show up again, and fuck his arm again, and render an actually unique piece of character development irrelevant again and he'l go back to trying to fuck Bubblegum again
And if they don't I'll actually have respect for the show...again

>>88298933
>>88299073
His arms never grew back in the first place. It was always a plant-prosthetic all along.

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>>88296542
>>88296869
While I'm happy about the arm they did it soooo damn late man, would have been way more hype had this happened like a year ago.

And just having a standard robo arm is pretty generic. Would have been cool if they went outside the box with it and had a plant prosthetic or something like that.

>>88298994
see>>88299145
It's impressive the amount of buthurt that has stopped people to enjoy the show for reasons that were never valid in the first place.

>>88299145
>>88299164
But his arm DID grow back, who gives a shit about technicalities that don't factor in very often. It wasn't the same arm but it might as well have been.

>>88299182
>But his arm DID grow back, who gives a shit about technicalities that don't factor in very often.
So, are you saying that if Finn had got a robot arms instead of the plant arm he had for two seasons, people would have bitched just as much?

>>88299206
No because that's not a technicality, even if it's just a coat of paint on his arm that's a change that would be featured in every episode Finn is in, unlike the thorn which was in like 8 out of 100 or something.

Just any amount of change would have been something. People probably still would have complained but there would have been a whooole lot less of it.

>>88299231
>No because that's not a technicality
How?

Plant prosthetic or robot prosthetic, that's the exact same thing. One is as much a technicality as the other.

>>88299267
No because plant prosthetic looks the exact same aside from the thorn that rarely showed up anyway. If he had a robo one then it would be a physical change.

Unless they were sneaky and just made the robo limb look exactly like his old arm or something, which would have been equally as bullshit.

>>88296542
Motherfucker hes got a robot arm now? fucking spoilers

>>88299296
>No because plant prosthetic looks the exact same aside from the thorn that rarely showed up anyway. If he had a robo one then it would be a physical change.
But it's as much a physical change.

>Unless they were sneaky and just made the robo limb look exactly like his old arm or something
I would only be half surprised if the showrunner ended up giving him a "luke hand" with Princess Bubblegum saying "here, I managed to make it look just like your real arm" just to troll the fans.

I mean, it's not like the technology isn't available in Ooo in the ifrst place.

>>88299353
>But it's as much a physical change.
Yeah, but it's not as satisfying as if something actually changed in the way it looked. That's what pissed people off, the way they handled it made it seem like everything was back to square one.

And since Ooo is so full of magic bullshit they could always magic stuff away, but that usually doesn't make for very interesting storytelling, like when Jake's kids were suddenly old enough to become regular side characters. AT writers have to have enough willpower to not jut use the setting to shove anything they don't want to deal with to the side.

>>88299426
>Yeah, but it's not as satisfying as if something actually changed in the way it looked. That's what pissed people off, the way they handled it made it seem like everything was back to square one.
But this is false. It's literally complaining about the look. I can guarantee you that most of the bawling was about "the team back-pedalling to status-quo and not giving Finn a real loss". and again, a plant prosthetic is the same as a robot prosthetic. It' sthe same damn result.

If what people are really bitching about is simply superficial look, then, it's deeeply moronic and pointles and 100% unjustified.

Superficial look is NEVER a valid point to complain about how a show is doing wrong.

Plant arm and Robot arm: the same.

WHEN DOES IT AIR!

>>88299517
>Plant arm and Robot arm: the same.
Dude, they are not because robo arm looks different, plant looks the same. This is not a hard thing to grasp.

When he immediately got his arm back and it looked exactly the same people were bitching because there was no change; if there had been a permanent change, then Finn would have constantly been reminded of his shitty dad and stuff. I don't care about the whole permanent loss aspect or any of that shit, but this is why I think it was bullshit at least.

Superficial look is important in not pissing off the audience when the show looks like no significant changes stay and matter.

>>88299426
>. That's what pissed people off, the way they handled it made it seem like everything was back to square one.
But that's false.
From the very start they indicated that the arm had something else. It was very clear there was still something ongoing with the arm and you had to be in denial to not see it.

You know all in all, it's very ironic. The showrunners, took a risk, they went in a different direction as the audience expected, they avoided the shortest path and went for a more complex overarching plot, with many step back and for, actually gave density to one of the most important plot point of the show, gave an actual story on which many other could be build. and for that, they were called cowards.

>>88299618
There was no guarantee that anything was gonna result from it. Finn had a thorn that only appeared like 2 times 6 months after he got it, it was possible that the arm plot was just wrapped up and the thorn was occasionally gonna show up to remind the audience that it existed.

It was more like AT did the thing it usually does where something big happens but then they revert 90% of it back to square one. The show writers took the path of least resistance and did what was easiest for them to do, that shouldn't be something to commend just because it was a subversion of expectations.

Ugh, why is this show still on the air? Just let it fucking die.

>>88299583
>Dude, they are not because robo arm looks different, plant looks the same. This is not a hard thing to grasp.
This is impossible to grap because no one should go with that logic.

Plant arm or Robot arm, it's the exact same thing. there objectively no more reason to complain about one over the other.

>When he immediately got his arm back and it looked exactly the same people were bitching because there was no change
There was as much change as if he would have received a robot arm.
>if there had been a permanent change
But IT WAS a permanent change. The Thorn was a clear indication that his arm was different, now.
>then Finn would have constantly been reminded of his shitty dad and stuff.
He didn't need his arm for that.
> I don't care about the whole permanent loss aspect or any of that shit, but this is why I think it was bullshit at least.
But it's not. His relationship with his dad wasn't resolved with that. the whole season he worked it out. The arm being a plant didn't make that plot less important.
>Superficial look is important in not pissing off the audience when the show looks like no significant changes stay and matter.
Anyone actually paying attention would actually realize that there was significant change. Fuck season 6 is when you actually see Finn mature the most.

>>88299686
Back to /sug/ please.

>>88299686
Only 2 more seasons, then it finally be over

>>88299665
>There was no guarantee that anything was gonna result from it.
There was 100% guarantee of it. Anyone who had been following the show this far Knew that Thorn was going to lead to consequence. You had to be in denial to not acknowledge that.
>Finn had a thorn that only appeared like 2 times 6 months after he got it
And? No need to be heavyhanded about that. You don't want Peter Griffin guest-starring in AT going "remember when you had that thorn in your hand" every episode.
> it was possible that the arm plot was just wrapped up and the thorn was occasionally gonna show up to remind the audience that it existed.
Only an idiot would have believed that. The arm plot had been build up for years, to think it was just given up like that would have been moronic. Anyone following the hsow this far should have known more was coming from that.

>It was more like AT did the thing it usually does where something big happens but then they revert 90% of it back to square one.
The 10% always have a great impact.

>The show writers took the path of least resistance and did what was easiest for them to do
But that's wrong. the easiest thing would have been to just Go with Finn losing his arm forver. The additional steps they took actually was the hard way. And it was not for nothing as it got interesting pay-off.
>that shouldn't be something to commend just because it was a subversion of expectations.
It's something to commend because they didn't take the easy way. And made something worthwhile out of it.

>>88299686
BECAUSE IT'S A FUCKING GOOD SHOW!

>>88299311
We all knew he was getting a robot arm, its like 15-25% of talk. "Blah, Finn always loses arm, blah buff adult Finn has robot arm in his vision of self. Pillow robot arm."

>>88299835
There was nothing saying the arm would be important man. It was just as likely that his arm was back to normal and the thorn would pop out once in a blue moon, maybe form his grass sword again in times of trouble, but up until it started being featured more that was the most that seemed to be on the horizon.

And doing what they did was definitely the easiest thing, it let them ignore all the consequences of the season 6 opener and just get around to furthering the plot whenever they felt like it. Making his arm look different, or having the thorn instead of being something that popped in when they felt like it always be present, would have been much more work. I have no idea how you think what they did isn't the easiest way.

>>88296542
Oh shit a pirate sword? Nice

>>88299946
>There was nothing saying the arm would be important man.
Did you even watch the show? The was 5 previous seasons of foreshadowing.
>was just as likely that his arm was back to normal and the thorn would pop out once in a blue moon
No, it was very unlikely. assuming that is just silly.
>And doing what they did was definitely the easiest thing,
No, the easiest thing would have been to simply give him a robot arm. The extra sotry-building they did actually required more build-up and extra thinking. Actually getting there in a more complex way, require more work and fore-thinking instead of being just done with it.

>it let them ignore all the consequences of the season 6 opener
They never ignored the consequence of the the Season 6 openers. it had impact througout all the season.
> Making his arm look different, or having the thorn instead of being something that popped in when they felt like it always be present, would have been much more work.
That is solely superficial look and would have got zero impact on the plot.

>I have no idea how you think what they did isn't the easiest way.
Because just giving him the robot arm and be done with that mean it was the end of it. instead, they went firther withthis arc and added more seed from which more story can grow. Doing what they did required extra writing and forethinking. Which is much more work than jus making a superficial change.

They build on the arm plot but didn't go the straight way with it. and that's to be commended.

>>88300102
I'm still not seeing how they didn't shit on the foreshadowing. It was easily possible that they did the part they had to do by having Finn lose his arm, but then wiggled around it by giving him an identical looking one. So that was possible.

And actually you are right about giving him the robo arm would be the end of it, so point taken, but they basically are doing the same thing in the present story line but only drawing it out by years and years. Whatever the green thing is at the end of Reboot doesn't seem very important given that it's not featured in the promotional material for Islands at all, so in the end he'll still just end up with some sort of arm, only they decided to push that date off as far as possible by giving him an arm that looks exactly the same.

So unless they really do something crazy with it, which is possible, I still think they sort of went the easy way out.

>>88300387
Damn, that gif's a real eyesore

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>>88296542
>>88296869
>status quo change

>>88300416
>>88300466
lel

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I like the robo arm but I can't really see it lasting.

It reminds me of when Marceline got turned from a vampire to a mortal in Stakes, but ended up becoming a vampire again at the end of the miniseries anyway. I think it's likely that Finn's arm will work the same way; just a tool to be used during the miniseries to move the plot along or whatever then fixed by the end of it so the normal show can get back to goofing around.

Of course I will be quite pleased if they prove me wrong.

>>88299686
Found the sufag

>>88299543
The DVD is released in January, so I assume that's when.

>>88300512
>No Marceline telling Finn about having a neglecting dad episode
WASTED. POTENTIAL. Just like their dynamic back in season 2.

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so will finn finally get with best girl

>>88296542
i cant wait for the pink lesbian and the vampire to do all sorth of lesbian shit together
also i want the little boy to fuck some older girls yeah

>>88304276
it's reassuring knowing that no matter what happens in my life these posts with that same picture will always be in Adventure Time threads. just helps you realize that this to will pass and all that.

>>88304276
never. even us fubblefags admit the future looks bleak.

Time to pack it up bro

>>88304307
fuck you m8

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>>88304356
I'm the same anon who's been posting the same post/picture all these years

>>88304408
i know friend. you also like posting those gifs of big destiny staring at the nuke explosion and Finn and Jake driving out the window as a car from what i recall. we've all been here far too long.

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>>88304384
>the future looks bleak.

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>>88304438
I love that fucking gif

>>88304384
what happenned tumblr? cant handle the truth? cant handdle a little mirror showing your true face?

>>88304516
>fubblefag/finncelinefags
>tumblr

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Real talk, show isn't as good as it once was but it's still great and I'll always enjoy it.

I wish Islands was happening at the end of the show though, it seems very awkward for it to just happen then have the show run for another two-ish seasons. This seems like a real final episode deal with Finn meeting and maybe even staying with his own kind.

I hope it will be good but as I'm actually satisfied with modern AT's quality I see no reason it won't be.

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What is your favorite episode-only character?

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I'm really looking forward to it!

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>>88304872
That's a tough one. Maybe the Hotdog Knights? They technically showed up a few times but really only had one breakout role, and they were fucking hilarious.

Tart Toter is also very good.

>>88296869
Wait, there was a finale?

>>88304911
that's scandalous dabs

>>88304994
for season 7, aired a few weeks ago. Preboot and Reboot.

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>>88304911
Damn.

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>>88304276
that's not Susan though

>>88297021
It was nice seeing people draw their own promo art for the finale.

>>88305344
from the thumbnail i always thought the artist just drew her with giant ankles

>>88299946
Did you not see the episode where the penguin turned into Cthulu?

>>88297257
recap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVaziA2K-5o

>>88304276
could be by the way Olivia tells it
https://twitter.com/oliveolson/status/806284013807636480

>>88307565
Was hoping that's what that video would be. Fine meme.

>>88304911
Nice!

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>>88307565
Thats pretty good.

>>88298933
I'd like to believe that this is permanent since there are only two seasons left, but we'll see.

>>88299311
It would be hard to promote the mini series without giving away that he has a robot arm. Besides, it may get the attention of some people that had stopped watching.

Isn't it funny how people still hold a grudge against AT for the exact things Steven Universe is praised for?

>>88310572
Lesbians?

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>>88310610

>>88296869
>>88296542
ROBOT ARM!
ROBOT AAAAAARRRRRRRRRMMMMMMMM

>>88300512
While I think it would've been interesting to see Marceline as a mortal for a while longer (just like I wish PB didn't get turned back into an adult right away), I don't think it would've been a good permanent change, at least not until the show was close to its end.

>>88296542
no fuck i hate susan

>>88304307
>little boy
Isn't Finn supposed to be like 16 now or something.

>>88311162
Only thing that changed was his voice.

The only good thing to come out of AT in years is that one fan game

>>88311133
FINN WHY HATE SUSAN?!

>>88311204
Also he said he was 16 at the end of season 6, which would make him 17 by now

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>>88298245
>nothing
>an entire miniseries is coming out
>Finn finally gets the prosthetic limb the internet's been crying over for the past 2 years
0/10

>>88298793
Jeremy stated at a Q&A in the Florida Supercon regarding the future mini-series that it will "actually involve Finn" this time. Despite the fact that Finn was a major character the first. This probably means Finn is a major part of the plot.

>>88298892
>implying this is the following scene after Jake got crushed
I guess that Finn just picks up a mechanical arm, and walks passed the grass being, gets on PB's boat with everyone and sets sail.
idiot

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>>88298933
His arm never grew back in the first place.

>>88298994
>Gambler's fallacy
>referring to the High Strangeness storyboard panel.
You'd have to be very incompetent to not figure out that this is either a surreal episode, or some imagination scene. I mean, just look at it.

>>88299073
It's like you guys try to piss yourselves off, refusing to enjoy something, and perform mental gymnastics to figure the worst possible situation based on nothing but assumption lacking reasonable evidence and then proudly declare it as a reasonable possibility. Kill yourself.

>>88299182
>his arm grew back
His "arm" has always been the grass sword. That's been pretty clear, episodes such as The Comet and Crossover, your arm doesn't magically transform into grass and then shape back. Even in Flute Spell Finn mentions his "arm" plays the flute, ergo he doesn't control it entirely, proving it wasn't his
>might as well have been
Then it's a perfect prosthetic, you want 5 episodes of Finn struggling looking for a new arm? He didn't immediatety get the grass arm.

>>88299231
Read my above comment, you're refusing to pay attention. There is change, there are occurences when Finn talks to his arm telling it to calm down.

>>88299296
You guys are pissed because the prosthetic Finn received wasn't a mechanical one.

>>88300214
>nothing but assumptions lacking reasonable evidence
Highschool?

>>88300466
Irrelevant, what defines something on-time? Completely arbitrary based solely on preference.

>>88300512
You guys dont even attempt at giving the benefit of the doubt, or utilize Ockham's Razor. How is Finn going to get his real arm back? He never did in the first place. He has a prosthetic now, and on top of that ADMIRES robotic appendages. So how would you ever come to the notion that he would want his real arm back, when he has something he has always wanted?

>>88304872
>she just pops out of anywhere shouting THIEVES

>>88307594
They're recording season 9 right now

>>88311408
http://ask.fm/MrMuto/answers/141531406024

>>88307594
I could see how you'd come to that conclusion; Finn is in a tough battle, Marceline is trying to sound worried. But then Olivia writes:
>#outofcharacter
This implies that Marceline caring and being worried over Finn is not how she normally acts. If the two were dating, the former traits should be present, no?
Sorry Finnceline-fags, say it with me.
TWO MORE SEASONS OF LESBIANS

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You guys aren't falling for this yet again are you? Do you not remember stakes?

>>88311940
We're not falling for it because we recognize a gambler's fallacy when it presents itself.

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>>88311821
forgot pick

>>88311940
>Do you not remember stakes?
I do, it was good. What's your point?

>>88296542
Can Finn finally age now? He's supposed to be 18 but he apparently stopped aging.

>>88304872
>>88311982
In the Ooo guide, iti s stated witches are a category of their own.

>>88311992
http://ask.fm/MrMuto/answers/141531406024
He's still 16. I imagine he'll be taller, but this is AT it isn't as if the animation will provide stuble and muscles. His appearance is due to the noodle-tube body, independent of his age.

>>88312011
They're still both individual characters, with their own modelsheets.

Is this a Berserk reference?

>>88296542
This mini-series will be 88 minutes long, the same length as Stakes. I just hope it doesn't all leak within day 1 like it had last year.

>>88312112
>I just hope it doesn't all leak within day 1 like it had last year.
It didn't... ? I remember having to wait for each episodes before being able to watch them.

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>>88304276
You mean

>>88312133
But it did.
http://desuarchive.org/co/search/text/adventure%20time%20stakes/type/op/
>ctrl+f "leak"

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>Stakes aired 13 months ago
Time sure does fly by

>>88312184
Actually, I thought it was a longer time ago, like 2 years. So, it being only 1 year ago is odd tome.

>>88311940
No lesbians this time.

>>88307594
Both voice actors already said that they find Finn and Marceline being in a relationship to be "gross".

>>88304307
>i cant wait for the pink lesbian and the vampire to do all sort of lesbian shit together
Same here, Fubble tears are sustaining me

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>>88312152
Sorry, wrong girl

>yfw SuperProBarneyATFag brought his Bubblinefag friends

https://youtu.be/X5YfvMCrASw
What time is it?

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>>88313159
I can hardly contain myself for all the inevitable bubbline shipping fuel from season 8.

>>88313119
Oh yeah, Canyon was a thing.
That was her name right?

>>88313221
dead waifu of the month

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>>88305344
>>88312152
>>88313119

>>88298650
>Why would anyone mutilate the protagonist of a kid's show?
HTTYD made mutilation cool.

>>88310572
Bubbline is shit. Steven Universe has all the lesbian stuff written in to begin with. People hate it because of the awful pacing/writing because of CN and tumblr.

>>88313119

Yes, best girl indeed.

>>88313260
Actually, the pacing and plotting is exactly what I was talking about. The fandom on /co/ was up in arms because AT didn't deliver on their (admittedly presumptuous and overzealous) expectations. SU does the same thing but the majority of the fandom here still eats it up.

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>>88313246
DELET THIS

>>88313361
This, mostly the lore-fags. I remember when everyone was praising SU, and after so much filler episodes the hype has died down.

>>88313398
I was an AT lore fag.

ironically quit the show after watching one of the pre-mushroom episodes, Betty.

>>88313361
What overzealous expectations did people spout out back then?

>>88313422
The episode Betty took place after the Mushroom War. Unless you're calling me Betty. You quit watch about 2-3 years ago but still come in adventure time threads to bitch?

>>88313457
Whining because the story didn't fold out the way they would've wanted it

>>88296542
So did Finn finally get the robotic arm?

>>88313492
Not like their expectations weren't better than the final product.

>>88313605
Yes. People are speculating how long before they give him another real arm again.

>>88313630
>better
Subjective and subject to bias at that, ergo ass-blasted their theories didn't go as planned.

>>88313630
Retards aren't people, anon.

>>88313472
Nah, I came to this thread because the OP image attracted my attention.

Also when I meant pre mushroom eps I meant once that touch upon the pre-mushroom lore, basically the first christmas special and then Betty.

>>88313741
I think you're the one ass blasted people aren't worshiping the show ITT just as much as they are

>>88313755
>With all the plot twists and subversion for the sake of subversion anon still hasn't realized why many people are skeptical and dropped the show

>>88313794
Makes sense. Holly Jolly Secrets and Betty are seasons apart though. Why you quit because of either of those episodes is beyond me.

>>88313799
>im ass-blasted
I don't see anything touching upon the point I've made about subjectivity. I don't mind criticism, but if I can show why your criticism doesn't make sense you should probably omit sharing it.

>subverting plots
List examples, you're telling instead of showing. Now plot twists are bad? Who cares? Subversion for the sake of? That would imply you have figured out the writers intentions, so, tell me, how is it working on the AT Team?

>>88313630
>Not like their expectations weren't better than the final product.
They really weren't.

>>88313833
Oh no, I meant that Holly gave me my Lorefaggotry.

Betty, despite being part of Simon's lore, made me quit because of some reason I forgot, I think it was because the pacing and that Betty surviving cheapened Simon's suffering.

>>88313869
> I don't mind criticism
Yes you do.

>but if I can show why your criticism doesn't make sense you should probably omit sharing it.
You've done nothing of the sort. All you do is attempt to go on the offensive which really, really changes nobody's opinion in then grand scheme of things, then shout out "SUBJECTIVE!!11" when it doesn't fit your mold.

>how is it working on the AT Team
Absolutely horribly. Everyone knows what really killed AT in the long run. No bonded narrative (or a loosely bonded one) being loosely held together by teams of 2 writers not corroborating each others part of the story.

>>88313893
Nobody's listing said "bad expectations"

>>88314012
>pacing what was wrong with it?

>Betty survived
She will always have survived, Simon never seeing Betty again is due to her leaving him for a future Simon. Time loop. Simon's suffering was more on knowing he needed to protect Marcy, ut doing so would result in him losing his sanity.

>>88314186
>Nobody's listing said "bad expectations"
Not the anon you are talking to, but while my expectation weren't bad, things turned out better than I expected.

It goes like this:

>"I don't like how the Arm/Breakup/Betty arcs were carried out"

>"SUBJECTIIIIIVE! Also, those were 2 years ago quit whining and conform to my standards. That's your opinion, so shut up about your opinion mines is obviously better.:

>>88314341
Well that's just among other things. The status quo thing kinda bummed me out but I suppose it's a CN ten minute cartoon for kids above all else.

>>88311991
Stakes was fucking AWFUL

>>88314383
I think absolutely everyone agree, with no exception, that Fire and Ice and Red Throne are awful episodes, though.

Personally, those are also the only two episode I actually don't like from AT (have liked everything else so far). but there is an unanimity for those two.

>>88314186
>Yes you do.
Even I criticize, but if I can show why your criticism doesn't make any sense you should probably stop repeating it. But I do, criticisms such as "Finn is useless" or "Finn is a cuck" I constany deal with. "Our lesbians just popped out of nowhere." These are critisms I constantly explain why you have no reason to be upset.

>doesn't fit you mold
define. I say subjective as a response to someone claiming something is terrible, distasteful, or is undeserving of praise, due to something based solely on taste. Someone saying AT is a bad show, and explaing why because "they couldn't get into it" is an insufficient criticism, because its limited to taste only.

>hasty generalization

>>88314436
wtf?

Stakes was great.

>>88314383
>better opinions
Not an oxymoron, but paradox

Also, see here >>88314467

>>88314436
What was so awful about it?

>>88314466
>I think absolutely everyone agree, with no exception, that Fire and Ice and Red Throne are awful episodes, though.
There is some mutual grounding then. Though I don't think of him as a cuckold, I still think the whole "breakup and chasing after PB then losing his arm and regrowing it" was very much unnecessary and made him very much despised for a period of time devaluing his character.

I think, when it comes to Finn, they dropped the ball somewhat. When it comes to him chasing after PB that shit shoulda stopped after WWM, yo this is coming from someone who ships it.

>>88314186
Completely read over the third point. It was a rhetorical question, don't play dumb, the point being that that is the only way to rightfully claim their intentions. You don't know otherwise why they wrote stories the way they did. Pendleton Ward shared how episode stories are made. All the writers come together and discuss ideas for episodes, allegedly there is a list of all the things they are keeping track of. I need to find a source for the latter statement. Storyboaders don't make the ideas of the episodes, which would be the problem if there were continuity errors, storyboarders determine the camera angles and the specifics of a conversation.

>>88314957
>Though I don't think of him as a cuckold
He is not. People throw this word without knowing what it means.

>>88314957
>then losing his arm and regrowing it" was very much unnecessary
Those part were actually necessary and lead to some actual development.

>>88315035
The distaste for Finn's grass arm comes along with the fact that it isn't blatant that it's a prosthetic composed of grass everytime it's seen. This is the only reason.
>muh robo arm wah
Glad he finally has it so this subject can finally be moved on from.

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>>88298794
>AT has always been good
>Only a few bad episodes in season 5

I could see the robot arm staying this time, since it's subtle enough that it doesn't really affect his character design much. Most other incarnations of it have been bulky enough to call attention to themselves, but this one is roughly the same size as his normal arm.

>>88315035
I disagree wholeheartedly. Just like someone can have bad experience at a job there can be bad "positive" development. The entire Martin/Orgalorg arc was a waste and I think I think the Islands Miniseries will do more for Finn than all his development from 4-7 combined

>>88315106
I'm glad he has a robo arm so we dont have to deal with the shitty grass human looking arm that did absolutely nothing outside a few episodes

>>88315114
Problem? Are you arguing episodic episodes with quality being independent and uninfluenced by other episodes somehow ruin the season as a whole? Generally season 5 wasn't bad, but it does contain episodes detested

>>88315189
>grass arm did not do enough
As opposed to an artificial prosthetic? What would that have accomplished other than its intended purpose?

>>88315114
Yes.

Honestly, People got so much butthurt, there were unable to enjoy tons of great episodes. In season 6 alone:
Wake Up
Escape from the Citadel
James II
The Tower
Something Big
Nemesis
Joshua and Margaret Investigations
Everything's Jake
Jake The Brick
The Cooler
The Pajama War
Evergreen
Astral Plane
Gold Stars
The Visitor
The Mountain
Friends Forever
Jermaine
Graybles 1000+
Hoots
You Forgot Your Floaties
Hot Diggity Doom
The Comet

>>88315189
>. The entire Martin/Orgalorg arc was a waste and I think I think the Islands Miniseries will do more for Finn than all his development from 4-7 combined
His relationship exploration with martin was fundamental in his maturity and development.

>>88315288
I forgot "Is that You", who was my personal favourite of season 6.

>>88315288
I disagree with Astral Plane, because this is the episode along with only two others that instigated the notion the entire series is philosophical bullshit. I too dislike the philosophical execution in that episode. Nothing more nothing less.

>>88315288
>Something Big
>The Comet
>Friends Forever
>You Forgot Your Floaties
Ehhhh meh.

>>88315319
Fundamental, of course given the plot, but was it good. No. Not IMO.

>>88315288
>Friends Forever
One of my favorites from season 6. Hilarious episode, and watching his furniture explain to him why he is alone struck me. It showed how Simon lost his ability to reason.

>>88315497
>not good
You were one of those anons that thought the first 8 episodes would be about Finn and his father , no? Despite episode synopsis being leaked disproving this? I don't understand why so many disapprove of the lack of father-son moments. Finn did not like his father, and only sought after explanations. Remember in "Billy's Bucket List" when Billy told Finn his father is alive, and Finn says Joshua? How does that not break your heart? He sees his adoptive father as his real one. Finn shouldn't have a reason to want to spend time with his dad; he left him to die.

>>88315497
>Fundamental, of course given the plot, but was it good.
It was good, for me. and led to good stories.

>>88315619
>I don't understand why so many disapprove of the lack of father-son moments.
I'm not saying that, I just find Martin entirely dull and not a strong character whatsoever. The Tower was a great episode though.

>>88315714
>Martin was dull
He was an asshole, I wouldn't say a character without any influence. So what?
He was charming in some cases, when the situation allowed. His ability to persuade others seen in "Escape From the Citadel" and "On The Lam" was interesting.

>>88315821
Sorry, I just see him as King of Ooo lite.

nto the trash he goes.

>>88315821
>>88315865
I have this headcanon that the reason Martin was in Jail was because he managed to con a wish Master out of two wishes.

>>88315865
but King of Ooo was an idiot

Martin knew when to quit

>>88315497
Dude Floaties was great, I hated Betty but that episode actually put her in an interesting direction.

It was trippy as hell and full of Jesse's deep shit but this time it actually worked very well and made a great ep.

>>88315288
I didn't think season 6 was bad (it's on the lower end of best seasons for me though) but some episodes you listed are sort of bad.

James 2 was out of place and not funny at all, Something Big was a flaccid disappointing mess, The Cooler made FP seem like a complete idiot (but it was good beside that) and Friends Forever and Hoots were okay at best.

Of course you are right that most of these other episodes are either good or amazing. Escape from the Citadel was an unequivocal 10/10, episodes like The Tower, Evergreen, The Mountain, and Jermaine were awesome, and Graybles 1000+ and The Mountain were both phenomenal episodes that I consider underrated. You didn't even list Is That You, which is also awesome and I'm pretty sure included on IMdB's top 10 AT episodes (not that that counts for much but still).

Season had lots of good in it like every AT season has, but it also had some bad to it as well, and I don't think the longer arcs meshed together very well. The comet shit that came out of nowhere in the middle of the season and then was anticlimactically dealt with at the end of the season was lame as shit.

So it's not bad but it's probably one of the less good seasons the show has had. Glad 7 was a considerable step up.

>>88311940
>>88314436
Stakes was gr8 desu~

>>88316418
It was alright enough imo desu senpai

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>>88296542
>Robot arm
>Susan Strong
>Seeing lands outside of Ooo possibly

I want to be excited about this, but I've been burned so many times before.

also... will it take them them seven years to get off the boat?

>>88316481
Heh
there was just a Berserk thread last night too. I should find a way to start reading it.

>>88298650
his arm has been gone since his dad showed up. They just gave him a replacement arm for a few seasons while they wrote up a story for his mechanical arm.

>>88298933
probably never. They might paint his arm skin-colored.

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what's the most kino Adventure Time episode and why is it Thank You?

>>88316692
Jake the Brick is pure kino.
Thank you is great to though desu senpai

>>88316372
>James 2 was out of place and not funny at all
It was hilarious as fuck. It's an episode that embrae the sillyness of the banana guard and I love it for that.

>>88316692
>>88317075
Is kino codeword for trying too hard? then the real answer is Astral plane.

>>88317568
Astral Plane certainly fits that one but kino is more like top level cinema by my understanding.

I guess something like I Remember You would fit better because of the issues it shows and how it presents them. I can't really think of basically any AT episode that has strong cinematography and imagery or anything else of that sort. Lemonhope is probably the closest one but even then that was pretty up its own ass too.

>>88317515
The banana guards are such lazy comedy. Generic useless idiot henchmen that don't bring anything new to the table. The only thing I remember them doing in James 2 that was actually funny was the one of them bringing in pies while everyone's falling down just because that was going the full mile with the gag but that's it.

>>88304276
It's a shame a lot of the drawfags lost interest in AT over time.

Taking Ep 38/39 as the start of this new special, it's already the best it's been in... years? ever? There were actually funny jokes. I actually LOL'd. Even the 'LOLSORANDUM' stuff that there was was kept to interjections.

Finn, as 'the last human', fighting trans/post-humanism, is a great concept for a special event.

>>88313246
finish it!

>>88311940
I do, that is why I em looking forward to it

>>88318899
Alas, I'm merely the chartmaker, not the drawfag.

>>88315189
>The entire Martin/Orgalorg arc was a waste
Martin was absolutely a waste because of how softly they handled it.

Orgalog should have been much more than it was, they probably should have saved it for the series finale, with Finn making a surprisingly-in-character decision to reunite with the comet ("... sure! that sounds pretty neat!"). They could have wrapped up a whole ton of plot threads around that event, ice king redemption/cure for starters.

>>88311567
2 years 2 late might I add.
Also they didn't give an air date or anything so this announcement is still nothing.
Checmate atheist.

>>88319175
We know it's sometime in January which is just around the corner, so it's not like how they announced the movie eons ago but nothing's really been confirmed yet. This is coming right soon.

>>88304706
>Real talk, show isn't as good as it once was but it's still great and I'll always enjoy it.

I feel the same way.

hope they kill off cinnamon bun hate what they did to his character

>>88304872
There have been so many, but out of the ones I remember, I think Sir Slicer's my favourite.

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Sad that at this point Finn's whole "last human" aspect has completely diminished, but I'm glad they're finally doing something with it now and not just having there be like 5 or so other legit humans in the show that just aren't acknowledged.

>>88298794
The significance of the arm might go beyond finn, he imagined having a replacement arm since long before he lost his and it was revealed that his past life lost an arm similarly.

>>88296542
Can this show just END, it used to be enjoyable some time ago but now it just ain't worth it to keep around. It's really worn out it's welcome.

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Daily reminder that Cuber collects graybles in order to study BMO's rise to galactic dominance.

>>88321630
>, it used to be enjoyable some time ago but now it just ain't worth it to keep around.
That's the wrongest thing ever. Last two seasons brought tons of good episodes.

>>88311133
Why's that?

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>Y-y-you see! Finn's arm was totally leading up to something! The writers are complete geniuses, and totally not talentless hacks who just do whatever the fuck they want by just playing the "otherworldly magic" whenever they need to add or remove something from the story.

>>88322901
>>Y-y-you see! Finn's arm was totally leading up to something!
It did. It was clear form the moment we saw that thorn. You'd have to have been a moron to think that it was over with that.
>he writers are complete geniuses, and totally not talentless hacks who just do whatever the fuck they want by just playing the "otherworldly magic" whenever they need to add or remove something from the story.
They are not genius, but they aren't hack either. And yes, the universe of AT allow for a lot of freedom, it would be a waste to not use it.

In the end, they provided many great episodes, sot there'll be no complain from me.

>>88311940
Stakes had its flaws, but I enjoyed most of it.

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Finn's Mom's name is Minerva Campbell

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>>88323157
>It did. It was clear form the moment we saw that thorn. You'd have to have been a moron to think that it was over with that.
Yes, it lead to a plot device after 5 seasons that wasn't even visible expect when the writters wanted, and rendered a clever way to portrait Finn's daddy issues pointless by making it look exactly the same as his old arm did. They obviously didn't have thought it through.

>They are not genius, but they aren't hack either. And yes, the universe of AT allow for a lot of freedom, it would be a waste to not use it.
>What is Fixed his Crown, Betty, Breezy. every single poor-pacing-plot-dropping choice in the series, irrelevant characters introduced just because, etc

>In the end, they provided many great episodes, sot there'll be no complain from me.
The Simpsons did that too. Would you say the new seasons are clear of all charges because of the early episodes that were made 20 years ago?

>>88317075
Jake the Brick is kino as fuck and I love it for that.

Does anyone have the mega link with all the AT comics archived? I've always wanted to read them. I know there was one floating around awhile ago, but I lost the address.

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>When you feel like Adventure Time really returned to form in season 7 and have really been enjoying it again but the majority of /co/ continues to shit on it.

I watched the first season of AT and then kind of dropped it halfway through season 2. Should I just pick up where I left off, or what?

When does it get really plot-y and lore-intensive?

>Finn has a robot arm now

What the hell has happened since the last time I watched, which was the pillow universe waifu episode

>>88324683
Did you like what you were watching? If so then keep going and I think you'll gradually start to enjoy it more.

The thing with the lore and plot and stuff is that it appears little by little, so just going after that stuff is annoying, plus it requires context of the other more regular episodes to fully appreciate it.

Personally I think the early seasons are fun enough just on the backbone of the wacky adventures, but even then you were getting near the season 2 finale which is where things start to ramp up.

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>>88324754
>Did you like what you were watching? If so then keep going and I think you'll gradually start to enjoy it more.
This doesn't really apply to him since he just saw only season 1 and half of 2. Season 1 might as well be an entirely different show when compared to the rest of the bloody series.

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>>88324579
That's something you just gotsta come to terms with man. I can see why people are so bitter but even with the flaws its made show's still great and I like it lots. People have a right to be annoyed at it but it's always silly when you see someone bitching about it and it's clear they haven't watched the show in years.

Season 7 was swell, I'd say it's probably equal to season 4 imo. Flute Spell was rad and helped this pretty fanart get made too which is a nice bonus.

>>88324810
He said he was in 2 though, which is a lot more in line with the rest of the show since it's much more toned down and less fantastically wacky than S1.

Not to say 1 was bad, had a charm all on its own. Sometimes I still miss the lovely atmosphere of "Two bros against the crazy magic world" the early episodes had.

>>88296542
Nope, too late.

>>88324707
You're like 3 years out of date man.

Lots has happened but if you want a quick crash course for what's going on right now, legitimate spoilers Finn met his human dude who was a scoundrel and his arm got ripped off. Oh and before that he got a grass sword which attached to his arm for all eternity and was part of the reason he lost it. Soon after that he got his arm "back" but in reality it was still plant matter in the shape of a human limb. At this point some stuff happened with Susan Strong (remember her?) and now an island colony of humans supposedly exists, and the gang is going to find them. Finn lost his arm again and it turned into some weird looking fat green man who will apparently be dealt with in the next episodes, and after losing the grass arm it looks like Finn finally fulfills his destiny and gets that robo part.

>>88296869
Finally hagaren time!!!!

>>88324967
Better late than never. We still have two more seasons left anyway.

>>88314466
For me, Fire and Ice was where the show started to drop in quality. I still enjoy it, but most of the episodes I didn't like came after that.

>>88296542
Who's the buff not-finn human? Is that finn's mom?

>>88326358
Are you being retarded on purpose, or have you not watched the show at all?

>>88326358
Nah Susan Strong man, she's been in the show since season 2.

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>>88324683
I'd say so yeah, it's very fun. Even the episodes that don't progress plots and stuff are enjoyable.
The lore comes in more around end of S2 and S3 so it's not far away, but if you're only looking for deepest lore or plot development that occurs pretty sparingly in the show.

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>>88324815
That drawing sure is neat.

>>88315288
I liked most of those, but found a few of them underwhelming.

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>>88324815
Flute Spell is honestly one of the best episodes of the entire show. I didn't think they could have Huntress Wizard live up to the expectations of the people who pushed for her to play a part in the show but they went above and beyond.

Before it I was just someone who thought her design was cool, now I really want another episode with her in it.

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>>88329777
I'd love for her to come back but I'm thinking that since the most likely way they would develop her is actually working on her and Finn's relationship (that was what her first ep was all about after all) and I don't think the staff knows how to proceed with that. They didn't handle Flame Princess the best so I'm not sure they can do HW any better.

Love to see her more but I get the feeling the show's afraid to commit on the character. Hope she shows up at least one more time though, she's cool and her relationship with Finn was pretty cool.

>>88330163
The answer to their relationship is simple and totally within her character.

Rough primal fuck buddies.

>>88330236
HW is a weirdo and thinks that boy semen will make her a cripple or something like that, she would have to go through some kinda journey to become down with the funky stuff.
Maybe losing her wizard-ness because that's where all the madness/sadness stuff comes from but that shit's really important to her.

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>257 posts in
>No one brings up a Beserk reference

>>88330447
check it Tito >>88316481

>>88330447
Good going turbofag

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>>88330447

>>88330316
For real though I don't think their relationship is an issue. If an episode brings them together to fight a common enemy or to complete a shared objective it doesn't need to get romantic.

They did a good job at the end of the Flute Spell showing that Finn has matured to a point where he can how shallow childish crushes can be. And Huntress Wizard even said she doesn't want to eat any hard meant. They should be cool together.

>>88330643
Yeah that would be nice. Just having them build more on a friendship or something via interacting would be nice, let them get to know each other better without immediately having to bang right afterward. She would be one of the best possible adventuring partners for Finn.

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>>88330536
I'm only a mortal being like you and anyone else, anon, I make mistakes

>>88330750
Finn building more close friendships with all the prominent AT girls would be nice.

>>88330750
Plus having a wizard friend who isn't Ice King might bring us to Wizard City more often. And those are always good episodes.

>>88330772
i forgive you friendo

Susan sucks big time. I miss Finn and Jake

Old King Finn is best Finn

>>88332159
I don't actually like Susan all that much either. She was pretty awesome as a plot point being possibly human and possibly related to Finn, but now that she's here as more of a person she's sort of just whatever.

She and Finn didn't even have all that many cute moments in Preboot/Reboot and that was the best thing about the gal.

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>>88304276
In another timeline maybe. This future is a lost cause.
But I can still dream. ;-;

Human invasion of Ooo when?

Second Great Mushroom War when?

Human science and rationality must bring order to that mad, sick land of diverse elemental and thematic peoples and strange magic.

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>>88332767
Honestly some kind of international tribunal should be called to investigate the experiments that Bubblegum carries out on her citizens.

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>>88332281
>giving up hope
You dare call yourself a shipper? You're supposed to stubbornly hold on to the bitter end kicking and screaming the whole way long past the point of reason, that's what any shipper worth their salt does/

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>>88334141
Finncelinefag knows whats up. Ship until you yourself have been destroyed in the shelling and hellfire

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>>88334269
You know it homie. Go hard or go home.

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>>88334457

>>88315519
I remember how worked up some people got over that one scene with the lamp.

>>88326358
Have you not watched the recent episode or just havent watched it since season 2

>>88336790
Last episode I watched was the one where finn pretend-fucked LSP because the writer was projecting their life story about rebounds onto finn
also there was a bee or some shit

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Hey so I only just watched ep 38/39 just now

It reminded me I got into a pretty long argument like way back about whether finns post-grass arm was his own, -regenerated- arm with the grass thing being inside it somehow or a separate entity completely, merely latched onto his stump

So yea anyway I was wrong, you're probably not in this thread but I figured I should own up to this regardless.

>>88317663
It may be lazy, but it still makes me laugh at times.

>>88324533
https://mega.nz/#F!g8RA3a4J!ONkaQn9da6X3k4VwzSKoWQ

>>88332159
You make it sound like all the focus is going to be on her.

So has what we're in the thread for even been posted yet?

>>88340375
If you're referring to the special intro, it's supposed to come sometime next week.

>>88324390
>Yes, it lead to a plot device after 5 seasons that wasn't even visible expect when the writters wanted,
So you admit it as visible
>expect when the writters wanted,
Whic his exactly how every written story ever work.
>and rendered a clever way to portrait Finn's daddy issues pointless by making it look exactly the same as his old arm did.
That's superficial look. And just wasn't needed to showcase Finn's issue with his dad.
>They obviously didn't have thought it through.
It's obvious they thought it through and decided to not be blatant about it. and reley on the sotry telling rather than going with blatnat visual effect. subtlety is good, sometimes.
>The Simpsons did that too. Would you say the new seasons are clear of all charges because of the early episodes that were made 20 years ago?
I fail to see the logic you are using, For a starter, AT is still doing great episodes nowadays, who actually stem from how they handed Finn's arm.

>>88336901
Ah, Breezy. I think that episode helped kill a lot of people's interest in the show. Hard to believe it's been two and a half years since it aired.

>>88341279
Breezy was awful, what the fuck were the writers and whoever approved that script thinking? Also didn't help that it aired between Sad Face and Food Chain.

I've only seen the first two seasons, and thought it was O.K.
Is the show worth watching more of?

>>88341345
Breezy was good. It's the episode that step into Finn becoming more mature and dealing with his issues better. Also, he score tons of princess in it.

>>88341416
Yes.

>>88341416
I say give it a chance. It changes a bit from season three onward, but you might still enjoy it.

>>88341345
Food Chain was excellent though.

>>88341499
Yeah, but Breezy is stuck between two episodes that are usually considered as great, doesn't really it's case.
>>88341471
I like the idea of Finn maturing and moving on, but I didn't like the whole "go kiss princesses" and the thing with LSP was really weird. Ok, it's a joke and all, but damn. Poor Finn can't catch a break.

>>88341571
Sad Face is considered great? I thought people hated that episode.

>>88341584
Maybe it's just me then.

>>88341584
>>88341604
While I don't hate Sad Face, I can't really say I liked it either. I did enjoy Food Chain, though.

>>88341571
Didn't Jesse say that Finn's behaviour in Breezy was inspired by an unpleasant experience of his own? Or was that something someone here made up?

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>>88330163
>>88324815
>>88312152

This was to be.

But now Finn lost his cursed-grassy aspect. I think it was important in context.

Still I wouldn't mind this as endgame. Credits roll, huntress wizard sits there listening to Finn playing a flute. Night comes.

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>>88339562
Holy shit, fucking nice.

>>88341697
>Didn't Jesse say that Finn's behaviour in Breezy was inspired by an unpleasant experience of his own?
Yes. I don't consider it wrong, though. Using your personal experience for your writing is a good thing.

>>88342027
True. To be honest, Breezy didn't bother me all that much, but I can see why others disliked it. For me, it was just another forgettable episode.

>>88341584
The talkback thread mostly ignored it, we didn't hate it, we were just shocked that such a meaningless episode could air, it had nothing that fans enjoy about AT. But, for some reason fans still defended it, probably ironically.

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>>88341499
>Food Chain
>excellent
>literally lol so random XD: the episode

>>88341416
The only thing that's going to make you want to stop watching is the sheer fact that you have about 150-200 episodes to go through. I rewatched the entire series, and don't watch an episode if you're tired, it takes away from the episode. Later seasons aren't nearly as unwatchable as so much of /co/ makes it seem to be. Give it a shot.

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>>88343234
>lol so random XD: the episode
It's literally focused on one subject.

>>88341345
>>88341471
Breezy is hated because of Finn getting an arm that wasn't bionic. Personally, I don't like Breezy so much because of how it tries to get a philosophical message across, but it doesn't registar well. They do accomplish this in "Friends Forever" though, and it's one of my favorite of season 6.

There needs to be a dragon ball super cross over

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>>88343284
That's not what "lol so random xD" means. It's random in execution, don't play retard. It's the same way with King Worm.

>>88343355
Except yes, it's exacxtly what it means.

You are throwing the term around like it is meaningless.

>>88343355
>It's the same way with King Worm.
King Worm was awesome. and it was not lol random but played around the chaotic nature of dreams.

>>88343355
>That's not what "lol so random xD" means
Except yeah, that's what it means. When a show has stuff happen in a non sequitur pace just to have things happened [random]ly, and there isn't a reason behind it beyond "we're trying to easily entertain kids", that's when something's "lol so random".
>It's random in execution
Except no, because it's focused on one thing and stays on that course.
Episode is food chain, it goes through the food chain. Sure,it gets silly with it, but If you think it's "lol so random" then you must've hated show when the series started, because it was no more silly or "random" than the usual AT.

>>88343392
What was the one specific subject that Food Chain had? "LOL so random" means no order, no structure, no coherent plot. Food Chain doesn't have this. They even break out into a fucking musical dancing around on a stage that was never introduced. Finn just magically transitions from being kill to a new organism, and immediately into singing about the Food Chain. The first scene was at a day care talking about the Food Chain, and all of that is dismissed as they go through the Food Chain. For all intents and purposes, how can Food Chain not be considered "lol so random XD?"

>>88343404
Surrealism to be specific. I'm not calling King Worm lol so random, I'm talking about the chaotic nature. King Word has an explanation for why things were the way they were, Food Chain doesn't.

>>88343424
see here >>88343454
What you're describing is Food Chain.

>>88343454
>What was the one specific subject that Food Chain had? "LOL so random" means no order, no structure, no coherent plot
And food chain had all of it.
>Food Chain doesn't have this.
You are a moron if you couldn't see it.
>For all intents and purposes, how can Food Chain not be considered "lol so random XD?"
Because there is a reason given for the sudden jumps (magic man) and it all follow the thematic and guideline of the food chain.

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>>88343518
>Food Chain had all of it
How so?

>I'm a moron because you can't explain to me what it is.

All Magic Man explains is turning Finn into birds, everything else that happens afterwards is ambiguous. The hallucinations and surreal nature of King Worm is due to Finn being hypnotized by the worm, and he has to break out of the curse inside to get free.

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>>88343454
>What was the one specific subject that Food Chain had
The Food Chain
>"LOL so random" means no order, no structure, no coherent plot. Food Chain doesn't have this.
The Food Chain is literally about order and structure.
>They even break out into a fucking musical dancing around on a stage that was never introduced.
Sure that can be "random", but it's still centered around the food chain, and it's Adventure Time. Sometimes people break out into songs, and sometimes strange shit just happens.
>Finn just magically transitions from being kill to a new organism, and immediately into singing about the Food Chain.
As mentioned, it gets silly, but there's literally a character named "Magic Man" that explains everything.
>For all intents and purposes, how can Food Chain not be considered "lol so random XD?"
Because it starts with teaching about the Food Chain, proceeds in teaching/experiencing the Food Chain, and ends in teaching/singing about the Food Chain.

>>88343555
>All Magic Man explains is turning Finn into birds, everything else that happens afterwards is ambiguous
Ambiguous isn't random. And they are clearly being projected in the life of the next kind of animal being eaten.

>>88343555
By everything else I mean the sudden transition of setting, into birds then a musical of Finn and Jake chirping Der Hölle Rache kocht in meinem Herzen in a scene transition that is delibrately arnarchic.

>>88343599
>that is delibrately arnarchic.
No, it's deliberately meant to project finn in the next step of the food chain.

>>88343577
You've clearly presented your position and blown the other guy out anon. But he's just going to deny deny deny to try and get you to continually repeat your points so it looks like there's still an argument going on when there isn't so he doesn't need to except he was wrong. Classic circular argument stuff. Don't rise to it.

>>88343626
*accept

>>88341416
You should watch it, The show peaks around season 5 imo. Season 6 is alright, not as bad as /co/ would lead you to believe.

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>>88343577
>ambiguity fallacy
>composition division fallacy
>hasty generalization
The food chain is about the transition of energy to the next trophic level, but "Food Chain" is filled with randomness.

>we break into songs randomly
False equivalency fallacy; the entire scene doesn't transition into a setting that has never been discussed or introduced.

See here >>88343555

You're telling me about the synopsis, as if it excuses everything, Magic Mab transforms Finn and Jake into birds and they just fly off singing. https://youtu.be/J9AHuM300fY
How the scenes transition is also a factor that you continue to ignore. It seems as if you haven't seen the episodm

>>88343615
Any done so in an anarchic manner.

>>88343626
Meanwhile I just tore apart his argument >>88343692
>I'm going to say you're right without explaining why

>>88343594
And the setting is forgotten. Don't act like scene transitions aren't a factor.

>>88343738
>Any done so in an anarchic manner.
Not really. It follow a sturcture.
>And the setting is forgotten.
It is not. Magic man give vision to finn at the museum and we are back at the museum at the end. As for the hallucination itself, it remain in the setting of nature.

>How the scenes transition is also a factor that you continue to ignore. It seems as if you haven't seen the episodm
The scene transition outright give an explanation of what is going on. and it connect with the thematic that was previously established. This is why it is not random.

It's not a "Lol random" episode.
>Meanwhile I just tore apart his argument
You fail completely.
>The food chain is about the transition of energy to the next trophic level, but "Food Chain" is filled with randomness.
It's not, it follow a clear story structure

>>88343818
You keep spout structure as if its definition is not completely lacking any order all. The only structure is magic flash of light, it doesn't explain their location. It doesn't explain scene transitions. It doesn't explain the random musical. The starting and ending points of the episode aren't the only ones. There is no clear story structure, not evidenced by but coincidentally you guys have yet to explain the structure other than a magic flash of light. What the episode is about, does not cover how it flows.

Behold, I present to you the order and structured episode that is Food Chain.
https://youtu.be/VQFhd3X8p6g

>>88343642
I had the luxury of binging through season 6 when I first watched it, which I believe contributed to my enjoyment. I can imagine not liking it if I watched it as it aired over the course of an entire year, but watching it all at once made me appreciate for what it was, and not hate it for what it wasn't.

>>88343873
You keep spouting structure as if its defintion is not being complete anarchy
A better way to word that

>>88343912
Well, there you go. The stage comes from the light from Finn's eyes which comes from Finn's realization of the Food Chain. All of which is influenced from Magic Man's magic.
Completely logical.

>>88343873
>You keep spout structure as if its definition is not completely lacking any order all.
It is.
>The only structure is magic flash of light
Wrong. It is has the museum to establish the thee of the story, it has the nature and the cycle of food chain that clearly lays out each step of the episode and a final that come back to the museum as well as an ongoing arc of finn Learning about rule of nature.
> It doesn't explain scene transitions.
The scene transition are clearly explained by the food chain, you have to be a dense obvious one to not see that.
>It doesn't explain the random musical.
IT's a musical bacause it's a show on TV, basically any show can do that.
>There is no clear story structure
Yes there is, the story structure is the following of each step of the food chain.
>you guys have yet to explain the structure other than a magic flash of light. What the episode is about, does not cover how it flows.
But the flow is actually laid out by how the food chain cycle actually work.

>>88343952
The last part is an assumption, you explanations are pretty much "because god"

>>88298650
Maybe so kids with disabilities can relate to a cartoon character? My kid lost his arm because my piece of shit ex wife refused to take him to the hospital when he broke his arm. It got infected and needed to be amputated. I was overseas and couldent do anything. My son loves fin. I come here to read up on cartoons and comics so i know what he is talking about when I get to see him.

Im glad this character exists because it gives my son someone to relate to in a completly positive way.

>>88343968
>The last part is an assumption
There is zero assumption, we actually see Magic Man putting an hex on Finn.