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Endtown 12-9-16: The Rolling of a Million Eyeballs

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...
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*sigh*
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Eh, it's cute.
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>>88287085

I'm groaning as fuck here... and I preferred Kirbee.

Fuck this whole arc.
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>>88287085

At least Chic is still cute; he's cuddling Irving in panel 2 and that's adorable.
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>Kirbee and Wally are a thing now.

when you thought this arc couldn't get worse
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>>88287085

Did Endtown just jump the shark?

Endtown actually jumped the shark when Al and Gustine were no longer the main characters
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>>88287657

I'm pretty sure it jumped the shark when Marx appeared.
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>>88287085
Eh.

Overall, it was an ok arc with a weak ending. Sometimes duds happen. Fingers crossed that the next arc is better.

>>88287657
I know the comic is supposed to shift to Walt and Dottie for a while (and I like that idea), but I REALLY wish Al and Gustine play a big part in the next storyline. Al is still my favorite character in the entire comic.
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>>88287085
Let's see what happens next......
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>>88287831
Coming up next: we shift back to Endtown! We won't see Wally for the next 2 years.
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>>88287085

Obligatory.
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>>88287825
>but I REALLY wish Al and Gustine play a big part in the next storyline. Al is still my favorite character in the entire comic.

Eh, I really hated that first arc. It put me off the first time I tried to read Endtown. The second time (years later) I went to read it, I skipped the first arc and binged.
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>>88287996
Didnt realize the pop up ad happened. The "joke" is that medication is for severe depression
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>>88287085
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>>88287996

Wally's medication will be sweet lizard butt.
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>>88287085

Jesus this is getting cringe worthy.

It reeks of doing something for controversies sake but it's not really, 'I'm compelled to keep following.' It's more like Goliath Chronicles, where you see the series going to shit and you decide to watch something else.
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>>88288336
>It's more like Goliath Chronicles, where you see the series going to shit and you decide to watch something else.

Fuck, that's actually exactly it. That's how the whole thing felt. It was Golitah Chronicles all over ever since we've left Unity.
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>>88287085
>get towards the end when they finally leave the ship
>hiatus
>forget about comic for a while
>suddenly get reminded of it
>catch up
>mfw
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HOLLYFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
THREE TIMES IN A ROW
LORD HAVE MERCY ON THE MOUSEFUCKERS
IT'S KIRBEE'S TIME TO SHINE
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I wonder if this is how Starco fans feel?
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>>88288523
Hope Aaron will be happy knowing that this is the only slice of the fanbase that will still read his comic
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What do you think happened in Endtown during all of this?With Marx gone Jacob probably hasnt done anything too bold to avoid getting lynched.
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>alll those Hollyfags saying the comic's shit now
Loving Every Laugh
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>>88288673

Not him, but 'x happened, I'm stopping reading' is not an indication that people will actually do so. It's just a whine.
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>>88288673
And I think Aaron is reasonable enough to think thats not true at all.
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>>88288691
Yes, because it's just Hollyfags that hate Kirbeefags.
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>>88288598
you mean Korra fans, right?
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NOT ALL...
NO. NOT ALL...
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>>88288673
>hollyfags actually think people will leave just because they got btfo

if hollyfags left thatd be great for us, no more of your autism = better endtown discussion
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>>88289167
why be upset, holly isn't even dead?
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What happened to the mouse anyway?
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>>88289429
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>>88289429
she bailed on wally and the gang to live in VR fantasy land with her old family for the rest of her life
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>>88289457
just like Hollyfags!
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>>88289457
So is she some kind of computer ghost or a brain in a jar?
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>>88289499
shes a person, just living in the ship with dittos simulating her life from now on
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>>88289520
She'll be back
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>>88289543
no, she wont. she has literally no reason to return other than fanboy delusion
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>>88289160
>#NotOurNotAlls
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>>88289520
So she litteraly became a vegetable stuck within a VR simulator?
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>>88289571
yep

people have the ridiculous idea that she's going to become a dimension hopping warrior now but it's all retardation. she couldnt even meet wally in person when she ditched the group; she's not going to get any sort of exercise sitting around on a ship for the rest of her life, which is already known to be shortened because of her being a mouse as it is; and the ship is obviously not going to heal her mental instability/suicidal nature because it's powering off of her emotions

she's just going to be the ships emotion bitch from now on
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>>88289604
Won't her VR fall apart/get distorted due to declining mental health?

She'll probably be stuck in a neverending nightmare if that's the case.
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>>88289604
>>88289571
Actually, she is in control, but apparently shitposting and throwing around
>no, u
"arguments" is more fun for both sides of this retarded waifu war.

Fuck everyone identyfying themselves as a side of conflict between the mouse and the lizard. You should be forbidden breeding.
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>>88289679
>6 updates until Christmas

So, we move back to Endtown on Monday?
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>>88289679
>you have to be a kirbeefag to hate holly
way to show your true colors hollyfag

if she was in control, then she'd have taken wally and co closer to endtown. the ship helped her get the fuck rid of them because they were shit stirring, but she is pretty obviously not the one calling the shots, she's its bitch now
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>>88289660
her mental health isnt going to decline as long as she's living in fantasy land, probably; and if it did the ship would probably maintain the VR itself, not her

she's much more likely to just linger and die than go insane now
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>>88289679

Yes mein fuhrer
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>>88289725
She'll die within a week or so.
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>>88289703

>impling endtown hasn't been destroyed from the inside again
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>>88289754
>>you have to be a kirbeefag to hate holly

>implying Jacob is not exactly what endtown needed to be great.
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>>88289788

what the fuck? why did i quote that... lol
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>>88289794

fuck off, bitch... go get fucked by a ditto dong
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>>88289709
Again with the
>no u
Wow, you told me good

You are so simple and autistic you cannot even comprehend that someone might be uninterested in your stupid fight. Hollyfags, kirbeefags, people like you... you all make me wanna puke. Please stop breathing you shitposting inbred.
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>>88289794
>holly living in a fantasy land where anyone likes her
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>>88287996

Hope Sally washed his hands after touching her. He could get salmonella. Reptiles are vile.
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>>88289812
>Sally
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>>88289808
uh oh, someone's upset. just like your mistress huh hollyshitter?
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>>88289822
This phone poster apologizes for nothin g.
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>>88289832

Go back to /a/ waifufag
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>>88287085
>my girlfriend for two years has left me after a series of traumatic events
>let someone take her place just 1hour after said events
I know that people in pain can take some strange decisions but that doesn't stop making it feel off
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>>88289866
>waifufag

that's rich coming from you
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When we gonna stop all the waifu backstory drama arc and get back to political warfare intrigue arc?
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>>88289832
At this point you made it clear you're either baiting or clinically retarded. Have fun fellating yourself.
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>>88289812
>Sally
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>>88289891
its been obvious for a pretty long time that holly and wally were only together because they were each other's first real opportunity for close companionship

once wally (or holly) found a source of companionship that was more compatible it makes sense they'd fall apart, and they both have
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>>88289891
>after a series of traumatic events
>going apeshit on me
>threatening a child w/ violence
>risking our lives for a piece of plastic

forever alone.jpg
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>>88289893
But that didn't come from me, it cAme from him
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>>88289913
shh, there's no need to be upset. she's in a better place now
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>>88289891
In the bleak future of the 40th millennium... there is only love
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>>88289891
>>my girlfriend for two years has left me after a series of traumatic events

more like abandoned him after all he did, trying to save her from an AI that is just milking her for emotions.

Kirbee was there with him, not surprising they eventually fell for each other on the ship, specially after Holly's episode with Clive, which literally threw Kirbee into Wally's arms.
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>>88289947
(( motion blur intensifies ))
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>>88289947
Just like your rationality. ;^)
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>>88289979
>>88289985

God you're all so pathetic.
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>>88289970
You are not even talking about the same person. Your butthurt is blinding you.
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>>88289985
Haha epic, anon. Gottem ;)))
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>>88287630
>People didn't see this coming

Seriously, are you people blind?
Even after they kissed Wally basically said that he had growing feelings for her. Holly leaving him basically made it easy for him to move on. She dumped him for a God damn illusion. Why wouldn't Wally move on?
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>>88289979
>>88289985

Samefag hollyshitter
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>>88290004

Stupid dumb lizard scum ;^)
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>>88287825
Doubtful, Aaron said their story was pretty much done. Doesn't mean he may not change his mind, and they get another arc. But Aaron said that Endtown doesn't have just one protagonist, thus the story will probably keep switching from hero to new hero after a while. So after Dottie and Walt, who knows who will be next?
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>>88290004

My favorite part is how you're doing what I want you to do. This level of control over another human being is gratifying, I must admit.
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>>88289933
>its been obvious for a pretty long time that holly and wally were only together because they were each other's first real opportunity for close companionship

She got attached to wally by the same motives she got attached to clive, sad Aaron never addressed this in this rewritten ending.
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>>88290048
>maybe if I play it off as me being an over the top troll i'll save myself some embarassment!
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>>88288673
Shut up.
I actually can't stand Holly or Kirbee, and am happy this arc is over. And hopefully both fanbases leave now. Maybe these threads will stop being shit.
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>>88290059
Dude, we discussed this in detail before the boat even appeared. I thought it was obvious, since it took us multiple threads to talk over.
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>>88290071
>He did it again!
You really have no self control do you?
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>>88290071
Or maybe you're being used by multiple people, you amazing idiot.
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>>88290113
>I thought it was obvious

for some, there's people who still deny it completely.
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>>88290059
>in this rewritten ending.
anon, stop.
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>>88289970
Why does the ship needs Holly's emotions anyway?
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I hope that magician flying ship guy comes back he was funny
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>>88290183

fuel, if i remember correctly
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If there's not something amazing to grab my attention on Monday I really don't know if I can keep reading Endtown.

This whole arc the past few months was pretty dogshit with no real payoff. The only satisfaction we gain is knowing that there's no mutagenic virus, but otherwise I kind of hated checking for updates because I knew, I just knew, that they were still on that fucking boat. And after all of that, we get a super rushed ending to the arc that screams "I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE TO GO FROM HERE."

Aaron's better than this, what's the deal?
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I think that at this point the Endtown blimp is crashing down with the force of Hindenburg. There is a lot of negativity and any criticism or concern is met with rebuttal of the other side that is nothing but covered ears and yelling.

> Criticize the ending of the chapter
> BUTTHURT HOLLYFAG, LOL YOU'RE WAIFU IS GONE XD

> Criticize Holly's flaws
> BUTTHURT KIRBEEFAG, YOU'RE THE CANCER

> Say that Jim's motives were really noble for such a shitty setting
> GET BACK TO FA WITH YOUR GAY FURRY FANFICTION

> Bring up the shit that happened with RPG development
> FUCK OFF OCFAGS AND YOUR SHITTY RPG, GO BACK TO FA

> Worry about how any of the concerns about the quality of writing dropping due to some headscratching decisions
> YOU CAN LEAVE THE COMIC AND NEVER COME BACK. YOU WERE NEVER A FAN.

etc. etc.

I think the comic is flaws are outweighing what brought me in the first place. The drawfags are gone, discussion is gone. All that remains are rabid toxic fans that are blind to any kind of concerns about the well-being of comic and rather would prefer to be catered to instead of going with what the comic was in the first place.
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>>88290203
>>88290213
bye
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>>88290203

Best thing about this entire arc was seeing the face of our god.
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>>88290221

Sent ;)
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>>88290203
The deal is nobody cares if you drop the comic or not.

Duds happen to everyone. Endtown, as good as it usually is, is not perfect. That is all. You either accept that and keep reading or you don't and stop.
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>>88290213
Actually, it seems that what gets to you is less yhe comic's writing fault and more all the toxic fans. I get you, I have tge same problem.

My solution? Drop the threads and try reading the comic without all this venom for a month or two. There is a chance it will suddenly start bringing you way more joy.
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>Holly will return to Endtown and turn everyone into slaves to feed her paradise
>Wally and Kirbee will find empty dead city
>In the end Wally kills holly for the greater good
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>>88290213
There is discussion in this thread, but you are right about drawfags. Hopefully this will change when we are following different protagonists.
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>>88290272
I'd never assume anyone cares, just thinking out loud.

As for the duds thing, I'm well aware of that. I've been reading the comic for years, so I'm no stranger to the groan worthy pieces of Endtown's history, but none of them lasted for months and months and months and Godforsaken months on end. They were typically just drab bookends or brief, boring beginnings, but typically they were not the meat and potatoes of an entire arc. I guess in a way the ending to this arc seeming so rushed is a blessing in that at least the story can move the fuck on, but it pains me to see Aaron's writing taking such a dip for so long.
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So Wally will just walk back into Endtown?
What the hell is he gonna tell Doc once he is back?
>ay Doc sorry Holly bailed out of reality but look I got you a new daughter and she is taller xD
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>>88290213

I think you had better tread lightly, friend. Jim is not a patient or forgiving god.
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>>88290418

they are not going back to endtown, they are probably gonna try to go beyond the great wastes
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>>88290213

When drawfags abandon ship, I do to. No extracurricular content, no buy.
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>>88290444

they already did
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>>88290418
Wally& family are still walking to the coast; that was Marx's plan.
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>>88290461
>that was Marx's plan.
>Marx

that nigga hasn't showed up in a while and there's a new arc coming next week.

I'm scared... hold me.
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>>88290435

>go beyond the wastes
>they find a great wall
>everything is normal outside of their walled in hell
>trump greets them
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>>88290525

>they were in mexico all this time
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>>88290486
>creates "mutagine" to ennsure this Earth's survival of a nuclear war
>builds Endtown well ahead of time for survivors
>prevents Flask from destroying Topsider complex because they'll be important later
>gives Mallard dittoes
>orchestrates Milk Trial to stabilize Endtown political structure
>Wally taking Holly to the ship was part of the plan
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>>88290418
Wally almost can't go back to Endtown. Remember he forced his way onto one of the lifts, then used a fucking grenade to escape. He will be looking at jail time if he returns.
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>>88290444
Funny how no one remembers when Endtown threads had zero drawfags early on. Hell there was zero porn of the comic like it's first 4 years!
Once the comic picked up steam here, drawfags come in droves.
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>>88290790
>drawfags come in droves
our new slogan
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Wally lost all his dittos, didn't he?
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>>88290525

>promptly roasts them with a flamethrower
>from their smoking ashes the mutagenic virus spreads
>next arc is about the humans outside the wall trying to escape the plague
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>>88290849
He didn't lose any of his dittos.
He used them to escape the ship. Why would they then leave him?
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>>88290899

fake holly took them
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>>88290899
shadows
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>>88287085
Should've ended it with the sunset, don't see the purpose of going on a bit further with the remainder of the group.

It's already safe to assume they are into each other and they want to go back to Endtown. Might as well end it on that one colored piece then jump arcs.
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>>88291082
it's a nothing epilogue to close out the week, webcomics do it all the time so they don't start a new arc at the end of their update cycle
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>>88290914
Why would Holly take his dittos?
Pretty sure she is aware that Wally and company wouldn't survive without them.
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I laugh at you and at the same time envy you people that get so worked up over a romance between a cat and mouse.
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>>88291164

because she's a fucking bitch
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I can't remember a work that fell harder into the pandering trap than this did. There are probably others, but I sure can't remember any.
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Let's just cut to Endtown, please.
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>>88291763
...Where Endtown's youngest crawl into
Santa Marx's lap and ask for something
that isn't made of beans.
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>>88291605
>Pandering
How is it pandering?
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>>88291887

ending was obviously re written to ship Kirbee and Wally, pandering to kirbeefags
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>>88291924
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>>88291958

deny it all you want, but Aaron literally dumped the character he has been developing for years for the sole purpose of opening room for Kirbee, she is pointless and completely forced into the story.
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>>88292007
Holly started losing her marbles before they even left Endtown. I could see you being angry if Holly were needlessly killed off, but she merely left to story for a while. This is just about shipping.
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>>88292007

Holly was a grim reminder of the shitness of life. Kirbee is a light of hope in the darkest times.
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>>88292119
>Kirbee is a light of hope in the darkest times.

>le perfect waifu

forced as fuck.
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so what are the odds we go back to Endtown with Al dangling on a noose on a street light as our welcome back
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>>88292167
zero
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>>88292167

none, Endtown is fine... just because Jacob won the election, doesn't mean endtown will turn into a warzone.
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>>88292167
Well considering his wife is Gustine, and she is probably one of the most powerful people in Endtown. I would assume a lot of people died by her hands before she would eventually be taken down.
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>>88291924
Do you have any proof of this?
>of course not
>just talking out of your ass
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>>88292007
And how do you know this?
Rumors have been floating around that Aaron originally planned to straight up kill Holly off during the Unity arc. So we'll before Kirbee gained any steam. The thing is that none of us know what Aaron had planned, but this is what it is now. So deal with it, faggot.
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>>88287085
Lame.
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>>88291958
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>>88292331
a lot of this seems to be based on the art pieces Aaron did of Holly, Wally, and Chik in the wasteland, even tho he said those weren't canon.
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>>88292372
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>>88287085
Yeah, this doesn't feel forced and tacked on at all.
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>>88292445
Be gone ye pathetic Mollyfag.
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>>88287085
Adorable kirbee. I want to kiss her snout.
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Next comic will be at endtown, calling it
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>>88292550
We can only hope.
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>>88287657
>>88287825
You guys are my niggas.
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>>88292567
Sup Aaron
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>>88287996
If we're doing that...
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>Holly despondent over her decision to leave Endtown
>focuses attention on 'saving' Clive to cling to her humanity
>finally realizes that she's alienated Wally
>considers suicide again while climbing the ship
>leaps into trap hoping it will kill her
>find common goals with the ship's AI
>show's Wally her life so he'll better understand her decision
>Wally and crew safely off ship
>supplies to sustain them to the coast
>finally happy and at peace

Holly Hollister is a far better person than you're giving her credit for...
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Personally, I'm more than ready to let Aaron move on to another part of the story. I've got no real problem with this arc, but it's been going too long. I think he got fatigued with it (on top of his health issues) and so did we.
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>>88290083
This, to be honest.
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>>88290213
This.
Welcome to the beginning of the end.
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>>88287085
>Jim getting cucked by his lizard gf was foreshadowing his foil getting a lizard waifu of his own after he got cucked himself

Pottery
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>>88287085
Ugh...
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Holy webcomic time batman

Wally just got dumped by the woman he loved, and he's already rebounding this fast? Even going with him accepting holly's desire fr escapism unquestionably this is absurdly fast.
It just...Weakens an ending which has been already caled out as feeling rushed and too sudden- Overall weak.
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>>88289832
>>88289947
Kirbee would be disgusted with you.
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>>88290203
>>88290213
I think Aaron got overwhelmed after setting up an arc that was WAY to big for him to handle. It happens. I think if we get a new set of characters, with new personalities, with new outlook on things, Endtown could be fantastic.
Look at the "arcs" so far. It's easy to see Holly and Wally have been through a lot, it's time to stop with that for a bit.
>Fistful of Beans
>The Ballad of Holly and Wally pt. 1
>The Ballad of Holly and Wally pt. 2
>The Ballad of Holly and Wally pt. 3

>Jacob Jackrabbit Arc when
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>>88289444
Haaaa. Nice.
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>>88287085
I'm a kirbyfag and I'm not okay with this. Give 'em some time, now just the rebound.
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>>88293022
>Wally just wants to cling to the nearest woman until she INEVITABLY dies to feel loved.
>Wally is a goddamn uncaring sociopathic cat
It all makes sense now
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>>88293022
They just sort of experienced a multitude of traumatic events (end of the goddamn world and Holly's demented origin therein) in very short order. That's a pretty potent first date that ought to let you skip a couple of steps.

Plus it's the post-apocalypse. So you gotta get busy getting busy or get busy dying dry.
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>>88293083
Wally confirmed catmanslut
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>>88293083
>sociopath
>cat
those are the same thing, you don't need to say them twice
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>>88290550
There would have been more Allies if that was the case.
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>>88287085
>yesterday I said "lizard won"
>today she is winning even more
Thank you based kek.
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>>88293083

Did Aaron ever make a doodle of what Lyn would've turned into, if he wasn't motion-blurred?
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>>88288816
t. crypto-Hollyfag
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>>88292300
Who are you quoting?
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I can't wait to see the reaction when Kirbee joins Holly in the grave.
I hope no one wins this waifuwar bullshit.
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She used to be so lanky...
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Hey, at least Chick can finally have a "stable" family.
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>>88293219
>you
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>>88293222
It's gonna happen one day.

Any woman that gets close to Wally in way (not just romantically) is bound to meet an unfortunate end.
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>>88289940
> almost 2017
> people still blaming characters for actions in their final arc instead of complaining about lazy OOC writing ruining a character

It's like I'm really in a Telltale's Walking Dead Season 2 thread on /v/
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>>88292667
You can't like both Holly and Kirbee you idort!
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>>88292917

I'm sure he will be crying as he pounds Kirbee's plump lizard butt.
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>>88293146

> you will win so much you will be tired of winning

MEGA
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>>88293289
It's because people don't want to believe that their favorite comic/cartoon/game has any flaws in terms of writings and that any missteps are "all part of the story."

Trust me, I was like that with a certain other webcomic a few years ago.
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>>88293195
I'm an Alliefag and I can confirm that I hate you with the full force of my stomach acid.
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>>88293234
Wally looks cute in that first panel.
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>>88293331
>4
?
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>>88293478
mah niggah!
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>>88287085
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>it's a waifu faggotry destroys one of your favorite comics episode
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>>88287831
Hot steamy desert sex
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>>88292667
>>show's Wally her life so he'll better understand her decision

>torments Kirbee making her think wally died
>physically assaults Wally with an axe

She's a doll
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>>88287831
A Topsider satellite flies overhead and disintegrates them
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>>88293864
Oh, has Queen Anon decreed this to be No Fun Day?
Sheesh, let Holly have a little fun
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>>88293864
Kirbee will forget all that shit by the next day, anyway. She has like one marble rolling around up there.
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>>88293280
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>>88293845
Someone post the link to that kirbee fapfic
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>>88293142
>Alcoholic, depressed latino women everywhere
>Dead bodies in the streets are so common of a sight that no one gives a shit anymore
>Horrific gang wars
>Can be described as "Wherever you go, it's probably better than here."

Well, the downsides haven't changed.

But the upsides I can definitely appreciate.
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>>88293864
>torments kirbee to think Wally died
That shit was pretty fucking heavy.
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>>88293817
Man, waifuism was never the problem. Discussing which character you like and why is typical of all fandoms, and is rarely uncivil, even when it happened here.

The problem we've been having in the tail-end of this arc is people actually arguing about the story. Primarily about how forced Wally and Kirbee's relationship feels.

Holly never really did anything terrible or unforgivable , she was just stressed out and snapped at the group. Even her mistake of hanging onto Clive was somewhat sympathetic.So when Wally and Kirbee kissed in the middle of trying to rescue Holly, it just made me dislike the both of them.

I'm not going to stop reading or anything, but this ending is just lame.
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>>88293156
I don't know but cartoon logic and the cruelty of fate makes me think he would be an elephant that's terrified of mice
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>>88295071
>the fish in the jug
It's the little things...
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>>88295003
>Holly never really did anything terrible or unforgivable
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>>88295220
"BECAUSE I'M HOLLY HOLLIS--"
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>>88287085
I swear to fucking God Aaron

Wally better not rebound like this
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>>88287630
>the competition is gone
>WOW I CAN'T BELIEVE HE ENDED UP WITH THE OTHER GIRL
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Honestly you waifufags are cancer, the comic has not dropped in quality at all during this arc.

This echo-chamber of stupid negative opinions reinforces itself, but in reality there could not have been a better way to get rid of Holley and I'm fine to see her go because I'm not a waifufaggot.
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>>88295389
He's a man with needs.
If he can't dick the mouse he's gotta move on fast. All those kitty hormones won't be helping either.
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>>88295510
>If a female character dies, anyone who is upset about it is waifufag
Anon, I hate waifufaggotry as much as you do, but this is just being overly obtuse.
The writing this arc was far below average and the ending was rushed and hackneyed.
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>>88295578
holly isn't dead though
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>>88295510
Building an echo-chamber of just positive opinions doesn't help neither. Also this ending was lame and terrible, not because muh waifus but because it was poorly written
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>>88295003
>Holly never did anything terrible

Besides dump the man she loved for a God damn illusion.
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>>88295616
>Also this ending was lame and terrible

You've all forgotten the end of the Milk Trail. Holly's suicide attempt seemed to come out of nowhere, but now years later, we understand why. The future will determine whether this arc was lame or not.
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>>88295700
>Holly's suicide attempt seemed to come out of nowhere
Are you saying that she wouldn't try to kill herself after spending weeks in a cell being judged for the making of a fucking cake?
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>>88290045
It makes sense for Albert to suffer some hardships from being a human. I don't expect him to be a protagonist, but I expect him to be a source of tension.

Besides, Al isn't even from this comic
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>>88295389
Why do people have a problem with Wally rebounding and getting another girl? I mean Holly basically cucked him for a fucking computer program. She left him!
Why the hell would he not move on?
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>>88295434
Maybe eventually but not literally the same day he lost the apparent love of his life
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>>88295598
She's basically been written out of the plot at this point, that's a fate worse than death.
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>>88295578
It wasn't completely bad. I really enjoyed seeing everything go down. That was really cool and reminiscent of Sparky's flashback. Only the very end seemed rushed.
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>>88295791
Maude and Linda didn't.
They all shared the same cell.
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>>88295791
where's all your talk of loving Wally then?
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>>88295847
You look for comfort in the arms of other people. That's just how it goes.
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>>88295831
Sometimes people hate change
Others just don't like their waifu being replaced
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>>88295908
Change is a part of life.
It sure as hell isn't a part of the Endtown universe.

>waifu replaced
Once again that is too damn bad. Holly has had 3 straight years of comic screen time. It is time for her and Wally to go for a while. Looking forward to the new arc with Dottie and Walt.
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I seriously hate how you can't talk about either Holly or Kirbee without it devolving into a discussion about who is better/worse for Wally.
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>>88295510
Eh, I think it's a little to forced to suddenly go from Holly to Kirbee. It's a little too smooth, while Endtown is usually very jagged in its emotional edges. The fact alone that waifufags are talking about their shipping is indicative of that, though. There was always an undercurrent of "I think this character is cute", but this shipping is something that only started recently.

And it's because of the comic. The comic encouraged this. The comic built the environment for this. And I blame Aaron for that, and I hope to Jim that this isn't the comic jumping the shark. I've never witnessed a webcomic jump the shark while I was reading it, and it's not a feel I like.
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>holly defense force exists
>they think everyone who disagrees is just an assmad kirbyfag
This ending was rushed, but Holly's downward spiral into worst character can't be denied.
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>>88296276
How about both of you shut the fuck up?
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>>88296120
Jim isn't the one you place your hope in, he's dead. The one is I.. I... I!!!
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>>88296347
As long as this shitstorm exists, my opinions can't be denied worst cat.
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>>88296384
>get cucked
>get possessed by dark lord I
>Igotyou.webm
>kill offending species offspring and burn their colony to the ground guaranteeing their demise
>enemy of marx, bringer of bullshit and bad comic strips
Why is I such a bro?
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>>88296406
If your opinion is part of a shitstorm that means it is undeniably shit.
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>>88296518
My opinion isn't the only one :^)
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>>88296092
Which is why them both being gone now is a good thing. Hopefully these threads will get better with the new arc.
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>>88296569
Still shit.
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>>88295071
Fun idea.
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>>88296120
Yet Holly jumping into fake Lyn arms is perfectly fine?
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>>88296729
You expect that from bitches and whores anon. Did Adachi teach you nothing?
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>>88296695
Nope, nobody will be able to talk about Maude without that one guy starting shit.
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>>88296729

she looooooved him that much, according to Aaron anyways..
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>>88296722
Cute!
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>>88296828
I feel like I'm missing a story here.
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>>88296729
No, that's part of the way-too-smooth change. This is stuff we should have seen partly from Holly's perspective. Not in the flashback sequence, but in her treating with the ship. Now we've got a Dear John letter, and that's it. This encouraged waifu-fagging, because it allows people to project on the waifu characters.

Essentially this was an important, probably the most important, development of the character of Holly. And we're seeing it from an outsider's perspective. Holly's flashback is also the first one we're seeing without commentary from the main person in it.

Like I said, too smooth, too shoddy. The other flashbacks really hit me. They were haunting. I suppose this one was too, but the resolution fell flat, and it missed that special something.
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>>88290213
>>Worry about how any of the concerns about the quality of writing dropping due to some headscratching decisions
>>YOU CAN LEAVE THE COMIC AND NEVER COME BACK. YOU WERE NEVER A FAN.
That stuff was over one person who made it clear that his concern came from entitlement over supporting the comic on patreon.

We're in /co/, criticizing comics to death is more than acceptable but faggotry is faggotry and it will get called out.
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>>88297010
There is one guy who loses his shit every time someone says "Maude is officially best waifu". He then rambles about why she doesn't deserve the title "objectively" as if it were a very important topic.

Waiufags are the worst.
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>>88297216
Arguably. The people replying that help keep shit like this going in any thread are just as bad.
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>>88297248
Oh Jeezis, it's him.
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I want the waifu wars to end.
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>>88297303
Waifuwars will never end as long as the waifus do shitty things.
Such is the curse of such terrible suffering.
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>>88297303
War never changes.
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>>88296722

Size difference preserved!
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>>88297387
Boy am I not looking forward to the thread three years from now when Kirbee does something morally questionable.
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>>88293385
>Trust me, I was like that with a certain other webcomic a few years ago
>that pic
Oh Anon, you arent alone there
Heres hoping endtown doesnt fall as hard and that entering a new arc helps refocus the story a bit
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>>88297647
She already has according to some people.
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>>88293331
Aaron you seriously need to take a break from the comic.

Your physical condition is ruining your writing ability.
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>>88290550
If that were true these gringos would have died in the desert.
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>>88297708
That's KC. He seems to be implying that we'll see Pete's transport friend get a robot body too.
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>>88296938
I feel like Aaron trying somewhat lamely to enforce this is going to be at least a quarter of the Patreon email thing that's coming.
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>>88297766

> KC Dropping spoilers once again.

It's not like they matter. The comic will get rewritten halfway again.
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>>88297766
Message stays the same. I'm really worried about this comic.
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My autism demands that anons realize kirbee is shitty as fuck and Holly did nothing wrong. I get triggered if this is questioned.
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>>88298269
>My autism

there's your problem
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>>88298269
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>>88298369
>(You)
>1 of 23 matches
Too easy to bait furries on /co/.
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>>88293234
>>88293529
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Oh look, an Endtown thread. The comic that is always a travesty every time it updates. Here's a challenge for /co/ members. The last two or 3 digits of your post to find an Endtown comic page that corresponds to those numbers. Post that page here. You win the game if your roll gets a non-depressing, violent, or sad Endtown page.
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>>88287085
>Wally goes back to Kirbee
Is he suppose to be unlikeable?
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>>88298517
Endtown has dates, not page numbers.

Dumb frogposter.
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>>88298560
Count the pages then, we're on 4chan. Such a feat is possible through autism.
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>>88298558

he is now.
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>>88298558
Honestly, I've never liked Wally that much. Every time he starts with his moping or -very important opinions- I want to shove Holly in his mouth.
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>>88298629
So does Holly
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>>88298647
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xl4L-6OF_A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkV8j4TZiuE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc8r4wagDB8
What Endtown has become
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>>88298558
>>88298597
>Waifu suddenly dies/vanishes
>Immediately starts fucking his backup pussy
Is Wally secretly Scott Summers?
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>>88295434
>>the competition is gone

there was no competition, Kirbee just got forced into the story, if it was a competition Holly would have won, easy.
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>>88298735
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>>88298560
>Endtown has dates, not page numbers.
>Dumb frogposter.

FINE! Then use the last 2 or 3 digits as a date for an Endtown comic. The challenge still stands, deliver a non-depressing or violent update.
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>>88298762
"Beware a shipper scorned" I guess.
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>>88298475

One thing I'll miss when we go back to Endtown is poofy tail Wally. I don't think Dottie or Walt will have a little visual quirk like that.
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>>88298831

Dottie is a capybara, she has no tail... Just ass
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>>88298851
Linda is hotter.
>>
Does this mean all the waifu-fags will finally fuck off so I can go back to enjoying my unhappy sweating furry comic? Or can I expect the next 10 threads to be full of complaints too?
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>>88299163
>I expect the next 10 threads to be full of complaints too?

pretty much
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>>88299163
The Holly shippers will never ever let this go.

It would probably be best if a third main lead surfaced after Wally so we can stop being reminded every time he shows up how salty they are.
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>>88299179
unlike the last 10
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>>88299205

>cancerous kirbeefags trying to start shit again

fuck off you autistic faggot
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>>88299236
Way to prove how cool and level headed you are.
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>>88299236
You're proving that guy right. Fuck off.
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>>88299263

go fuck yourself, you are the reason these threads are fucking garbage.
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>>88299205
>The Holly shippers will never ever let this go and the Kirbee shippers will never stop bragging about it like they actually accomplished something.
>It would probably be best if a third main lead surfaced after Wally so we can stop being reminded every time he shows up how terrible they both are.
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>>88299284
Well you sure ain't fixing anything left in his wake :^)
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>>88299299
>the Kirbee shippers will never stop bragging about it like they actually accomplished something.

This, thank god we are moving on, we won't have deal with these retards.
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>>88299299
Fair point. To be honest, my motivations are ulterior. I've long since wondered what a third major lead could do for the story.
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>>88298629
In an alternate reality, Allie stops the catnip fight before it starts by doing that as soon as Wally speaks up.

I wish she was here to do this with the waifufags.
>>
>pre-holly fucks off
>hollyfags okay with waifu wars, shitting on kirbee, and pretty much okay with wally
>post
>fuck off kirbee, fuck off wally, he was always uninteresting, I don't like this development because muh waifu is gone and lost. Kirbee and Wally are terrible people. RRRRRRRRREEEEEEE

Stay mad Hollycucks.
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>>88299690
Daily reminder
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@88299690
This bait is getting stale.
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>>88299715
This will never not be funny.
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>>88299722
>mommy he called my autism out
>better call it bait then and not link the post, that'll show em!
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>>88299489
>>88299632
>>
who /marathoned the entire series in a day and a half because of how autistic hollyfags were/ here
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>>88299730

for you.
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>>88297303
Hopefully we just get Dottie in the next arc, maybe with a little Gustine (and Al) thrown in. Too many females will just trigger the waifu fags.
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>>88299771

there's no love triangles in endtown that we know off, people blames the characters, but realistically the triangle is the problem. it spawns rivalry between the waifufags.
>>
Imagine how disappointed Kirbee would be if she could see these threads
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>>88299690
>fuck off wally, he was always uninteresting
I've been saying that forever. I've always prefered Albert.
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>>88299803
See >>88292968.
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>>88299806
Albert was pretty good, no lie.
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>>88299764
Did you seriously get into Endtown just to shitpost?
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>>88299865

it's a /co/ thing...
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This all began just a little over a year ago.
Holly's trauma over Unity was the last straw.
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>>88299865
Reading these threads, it's hard to imagine he's the only one.
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>>88299205
Well according to Aaron, Wally's current arc is done. Next arc will feature Walt and Dottie. We probably won't see Wally for a a while. Depends how long the next arc is, we may not see Wally for a year or longer.
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>>88299865
>Responding to the tripfag
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>>88299909
Say, that's great news. I really like Walt and Dottie.
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>>88299909
a lot can happen in a year
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>>88299865
yeah

years of threads calling this really great didn't motivate me but the shitposting did
it actually is really great but still
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>>88299909
>>88299938
At the same time, I hope there's wonder and bizarreness in their story. I know we've got an upcoming political strife upcoming, but I love the fantastical elements of this universe the most.

With the ships and dittos explained, I hope there's new strangeness to encounter. But that cryptic line the ship told us might be a good start.
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>>88287085
>be kirbeefag
>shill kirbee for weeks

I thought I wanted this, but now...
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>>88299883
This began since her neighbor turned into a snake and exploded, her fish baby died, her husband motion blurred then exploded, car-crashed twice, escaped an explosion, saw Farx die and got into Endtown by sacrificing a bunch of other people. Her time in Endtown just delayed it until The Milk Trial and going topside didn't help at all. Then yes, Unity was the last straw. After that she couldn't think straight at all. If we could see their sanity meters hers would be pretty much in the red.

If she had only learnt to let go it could have been different.
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>>88299996
Her tail stores fat. It should be fully grown back in a year. She won't get chubby. All the weight will go to her tail.
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>>88287090
*telepoprts behind you*
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>>88300156

I know your feel, i wanted them together but i also wanted Holly to get a great ending. I should be happy, but i can't help to feel this ending sucked and could have been much better.
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>>88296722
Now I'm sad
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>>88300181
>She won't get chubby. All the weight will go to her tail.

Aaron doesn't care.
>>
Does Kirbee lay eggs and would some eggs be kitty if Wally fug'd her?
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>>88300268
Someone needs to re-read the lizardtown arc.
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>>88300268

eggs are random, they could have an elephant baby if they are unlucky enough.
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>>88300268
kirbee ate babies
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>>88300291
I haven't read anything but the bits where they rescued her and then went in the ship. And like the first 50 pages where Topsiders zapped a dude for having an ugly patch on his skin.
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>>88300310
You're missing out on some of the best stories. The best one, in fact.

But that aside, they explain babies are random, and the lizards-only town just didn't let those ones hatch.
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>>88300340
>have egg
>it's a girl...
>mouse
>that looks exactly like Holly
>things are now extremely awkward between Wally and Kirbee
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>>88300268

Kirbee was not working on the nursery, is there any evidence she actually laid some of these eggs?, they disliked her, i am sure no one wanted to have her eggs either.
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>>88300435
>i am sure no one wanted to have her eggs either.
Nourishment was extremely limited in their community. They can't afford to turn down eggs because "they didn't like her."
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>>88299758
Can't even go sour grapes and say she's better off because she died anyway despite cutting ties with him...
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>>88296722
This is great
>That filename
10/10
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>>88300505

Don't worry my fellow Alliefag, check trash in a moment, i will share some hot Allie from my stash with you.
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>>88300552
What I want is more comics with her, I like her for her character.

And I've seen enough of that stuff too.
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>>88300593

oh, well... it's there if you want to check it out anyways.
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>>88300623
I didn't mean to say it's not appreciated.

Sorry, guess I'm in the wrong mood.
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>>88300901

all good, i love Allie too and i get pissed off when i look bad and see how quickly she just got written off the comic.
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>>88301006
According to Aaron she was always meant to be a false lead. It's easy to see that, she makes more sense playing that role.

Doesn't make it less depressing, though.
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>>88301127

it sucks though, i mean, she was incredibly nice when sober, and she actually helped a shit ton of people topside, including flask. She was a genuinely nice person and i believe that regardless of her drinking issues, a Wally Allie ship could have worked, i'm sure Wally would have been good enough to keep her away from the booze.
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>>88301210
Honestly, I think she needed her own "Holly". Wally is a good guy but he evidently didn't care that deeply for her.
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>>88301343
>he evidently didn't care that deeply for her.

I agree, it was a shame, Holly kinda go to his heart first, and well... we got this.
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>>88301400
At least she was okay with it, in the end.
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>>88301469

ANON DELETE THIS!

jokes aside, that shit was unnecessary... i guess she fulfilled her only purpose in the story by bringing wally in, but her death was totally uncalled for, if Aaron tried to make a point with her death, well... i fail to see it.
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>>88301518
Everyone can die at any moment, the current background characters at least.
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>>88301518
It's in the next panel.

The "point" is that there was no point.
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>>88301604

i guess that's a good point
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>>88298769
Updated
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>>88301518
>she fulfilled her only purpose in the story by bringing wally in
She also told him to roll-up his sleeves. I wonder if he thinks of her when he does that.
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>>88301659
Jeezis...
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Reminder that Allie goes commando and is literally perfect.
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>>88301788
That explains why she has fanart with shorts.
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>>88300268
Pretty much.
I assume mutant sex is the same as human sex.
They would need protection, or Wally simply can't cum inside of her.
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>>88302060
She shows more skin in the comic
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>>88300268
Mutant babies are completely random. Holly and Wally could have had a dog. Wally and Kirbee could have a fucking giraffe baby.
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>>88300435
She is a female.

Pretty sure some male out there would have happy fucked her just because she was avaliable.
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>>88301127
Aaron has said many times that the comic doesn't have a lead. Main reason Holly fags are so mad right now. They never saw Aaron writing her out of the comic. But facts are that no one in the comic is safe from dying or being written out......no one.
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>>88302156
Well with a huge tail like that, making panties to fit around it would be difficult.
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>>88299883
Actually, Chic was a factor too.

Holly was looking for somebody who needed her.
Chic was too independent for that.

Even as Chic bonds with Kirbee you can see how she follows his lead like when approaching the baited dinner.

As far as Holly was concerned she also failed to protect Clive.
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>>88298762

Holly was headed for a BAD END even without Kirbee around.

In fact it was Wally who would have been responsible for getting rid of Clive and for slapping the hysteric Holly.
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>>88302347
>BAD END

she got a good end though, a much better one that she really deserved
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>>88287085
so who are the next people that we will watch suffer
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>>88302529
Dottie and Walt.
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>>88302529

Hopefully Kirbee
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>>88301518
People sometimes die in terrible tragedy. This idea that fans need to sign off on characters who die is a little absurd. The fact that you are bothered by her death means it probably served its purpose.
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>>88302536
any strip they were in before?
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>>88302529
The Unsightly Mutants at Endtown.
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>>88287085
It could've ended on the sunset, but the ball had to be dropped further.
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>>88302657
Plenty. Just read the comic.
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>>88302777
And check my Lucky 7s.
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>>88302634

I just think it was dumb, just like Holly's perfect ending was dumb too.
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>>88302485
desu senpai it isnt really a bad or good ending for holly

its kind of a fridge horror ending. yeah her mind is going to be in fantasyland but she's really just going to be stuck on the ship in a cold steel room withering away in VR land

even if the ship can feed and water her she's still going to deteriorate
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>>88301541
Except Wally, of course. Being Aaron's pet character and all.

>>88298752
Yes. He is also always right.

Honestly, Wally is more of a genuine Mary Sue than Marx is. At least you're not supposed to like Marx.
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>>88303140
>Except Wally,

and Holly, even though she was supposed to, Aaron decided to keep her alive in life support mode.

>At least you're not supposed to like Marx.

Aaron disagrees, also.. you dont really have to like wally, i know i don't like him as much as i used to anymore.
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>>88302918
I think you're upset, but what you don't realize is it's OK to be upset. Upset is one of the emotions reading tragedy is supposed to make you feel. You gotta be on-board for the good AND bad times to get the most out of fiction.
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>>88303194
>You gotta be on-board for the good AND bad times to get the most out of fiction.

i am, and i love every second it it, no matter how painful it is, that's why i like this comic, i genuinely care for the characters.
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>>88303227

well, most of them anyways...
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>>88303140
You know, the first panel has one of those red flags that showed how fragile Holly really is early on, those that some people claim don't exist.
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>>88303247

while i agree with you that Holly was absolutely broken from day 0, she just fell from the fucking boat and almost got killed, i can see why she would act this way.

These strips though...
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>>88303185
>Aaron disagrees
Then why do the other characters don't like him? And he is also considered unlikable outside the story.

Funny how Aaron also didn't expect so much love for Allie and (more understandably) Jim.
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>>88303227
Alright, I just wanted to understand. I just take issue when people throw the story under the bus, when really they should be complimenting the story for making them care enough to be emotionally invested.
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>>88303418

it's all good, it doesn't have to be 100% perfect or specifically pander to me, in order for me to enjoy the thing. Sadly not everyone thinks the same.
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>>88303414

Jim overreacted. He should've acted against just Sarah and Piotr.

Instead he set genocide into motion
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>>88303515
But it wasn't Jim, mostly.
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>>88303570

Well, he definitely made sure that since everyone underground was dead, the colony would be wiped out
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>>88303620
The point is that it wasn't exacly Jim who did that.
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>>88303311
Let's not forget this.
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>>88303809

>This is crazy...
Hindsight is 20/20.
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>>88303835

Also, is it just me or there was more variety of expressions back then?
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>>88303871
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>>88303896
I like how it's subtlely implied that she digs Wally's style.
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>>88303896
>>88303871
You might be right. There seems to be more expressions but the strips you've posted are more comedic in tone. They're more light-hearted. For the last year or two the tone has been consistently dreaded
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>>88303994
You have a point. I guess the increasingly dark tone is affecting more than just the writing.
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>>88303896
>Endtown /trash/ threads
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You know, it's easy to forget that Endtown has a massive archive until you see older pages and remember that A LOT has happened.
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>>88303835

>i pointed this out once
>Hurr Huur BUTTMAD KIRBEEFAG STOP RUINING THE THREADS
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>>88304107
Here, have a better crop.
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>>88304174
I was the the first to point it out but I did it with more tact than you probabaly did.
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>>88304239

the discussion back then didn't even had anything to do with kirbee, also that was months ago.
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>>88304278
I'm one of the original 5 who pushed Endtown threads here on /co/. Believe me, I know.
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>>88304338

not claiming otherwise, just pointing that out.

There was just a point where discussing Holly's character was literally impossible.
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>>88304386
Isn't it still?

And as I said, I've seen most of what has happened ITT. I have so much memories that it has become hard to remember everything.
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>>88304556
>Isn't it still?

well, no one is calling us butthurt waifufags yet.

>I have so much memories that it has become hard to remember everything.

i feel you, i was not one of the first people who started these threads, but i did hop on the Aaron wild ride quite quickly, 2 or 3 strips after the cuckening that started all.
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>>88303515
The guy lost his mind.
Not really his fault.
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>>88297653
I'll eat my socks if Endtown crashes as hard as Homestuck did.
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>>88303896
When even the villian thinks you're a deviant then it's time to reconsider your choices.
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>>88287085

Hahaha well... this was pretty convenient? It would actually be perfect if the ship made the letter to get rid of them, and Holly was being sucked dry in an emotional hell chamber, and Wally was just like "My work here is done, time to move on :3"
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>>88293331
It's been a while but where does Petey go after the scene in pic related? I'd look it up but GoComics is being a bitch right now
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>>88306782
dindu nuffin
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>>88301400
Outside of Wally, who would be Allie's "Holly"?

>inb4 everyone inmediately says Jim But it's not like there are any other prominent male characters available. So I suppose what characteristics and methods to help her cope would make Allie's "Holly"?
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>>88307345
Either of Allie's comrades that Wally got killed.
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>>88307345
Linda.
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>>88307484

>Allie used to get threesomes topside
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>>88307542
>That penanon comic with maid Allie suggesting a threesome with her, Wally, and Holly makes more sense
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>>88303896
Seriously why would this be an issue with Flask?
Interspecies romance seems to be pretty normal, and it's not like she is new to Endtown.
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>>88307484
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>>88307614

it's just kind of ironic, a cat and a mouse... it's all.
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>>88307614
Some mental remnant of her Topsider background looking for a reason to look down on other mutants, possibly.
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>>88307636
I guess.
But she was transformed into a mutant to be with Petey who was human. She could have ended up anything, yet she was clearly in love and wanted to be with him. What if she turned out as a beluga whale?....
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>>88307484
Good job, Wally. This is were you caused even more casualties.
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>>88307800
So odd to see the older designs. Wally looks a bit like Fritz the cat here.
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>>88307800
And on top, of that Allie and Leo were responsible for saving more mutants than anyone else in this comic besides maybe Marx
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>>88303515
Jim wasn't exactly rational at that point.

And besides... genocide against a settlement of people committed to genocide as well with a racial superiority complex as well as the promotion of infanticide vis meals? Yeah.
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>>88287085
>This arc began December 6, 2013
>Flash back began over a year ago
Does anyone else wish Aaron would hurry the fuck up at times? I got on board after seeing so many posts about Jim and it was a wild ride, but a fucking year long flashback has really drained it out of me.
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>>88309200
He could definitely abbreviate a majority of his works. I get that decompression works for dramatic effect but pick your battles
>>
The Ohio Players murdered a woman for one of their songs
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>>88307078
Never shown. I assume he went to Mallard to make a robot body for his butt buddy.
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Here's some Dottie for when we get back to Endtown
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>>88309829

you know who's missing a maid outfit?

...Marx...
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>>88309854
Ya' know with all those dimensions he hops through, maybe....
>>88296722
Great picture with a great file name
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>>88309854
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>>88309902
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Hollyfags should tell Aaron on social media that they plan to drop the strip with the exit of Holly from the strip
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>>88309971

But no one SAID anything.

Hell, no one even TYPED.
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>>88287085
wait till she gets a taste of that barbed cat dick in her lizard vag
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>>88310759

Like when people left for Canada when Trump won?
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>>88310759
I don't think there's many genuine Hollyfags left anymore.

Also, I find it ironic that they get teased like this, considering that back when it looked like Kirbee was gonna get killed by JimGod inside the walls there were many Kirbeefags threatening with leaving the comic (which was even more ridiculous because Kirbee hadn't existed for very long back then).
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>>88311572
>Also, I find it ironic that they get teased like this, considering that back when it looked like Kirbee was gonna get killed by JimGod inside the walls there were many Kirbeefags threatening with leaving the comic (which was even more ridiculous because Kirbee hadn't existed for very long back then).

i will take shit that never happened for a 100.
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>>88311572
yeah, no, this never happened. nice try tho
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>>88313402
>>88313720
Well, I guess "threatening" is a strong word but yeah, many mentioned that they couldn't bear to keep reading.
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>>88311572
>>88314011
I miss those threads.
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>>88311572
We had a deathmeter for Kirbee, since we expected her to die, but nobody threatened to leave the comic. So a nice asspull you got there.
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>>88314109
I remember at least one poster that said they got interested in the comic because of Kirbee and would leave if Aaron killed her off, and similar comments. Though it's okay if you don't believe me, it's not surprising that people think this is waifufag bait at this point.
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>>88314555
>one or two scalies
>as bad as hollyfags
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>>88314595
You're right, they're not as bad. They're worse.
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How did this webcomic get such a following of shitposters?
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>>88314715
see
>>88299865
>>88299865

Also, Kirbee seems to attract awful people.
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it's been a few months since i started glossing over what's been going on with Endtown by hovering over the OP's on the catalog.

now i finally open and read this thread and all i can feel for all of you is schadenfreude.
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>>88310759
to what end? Bringing Holly back at this point would be an even bigger cop out
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>>88310759
no they shouldn't, shut up idiot.
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>>88316241

not like they have to, pretty sure KC already fed Aaron lies about Hollyfags being butthurt and dropping the comic for writting Holly off
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>>88315006
y tho

whats your beef man
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Update 20, literally admitted to having rushed the arc
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>>88316287
He reads the threads himself, retard.
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>>88317632

Hi Kc.
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>>88317646
not KC. quit accusing every anon of being KC
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>>88317494
>>88317604

> That passive aggressive tone.

Who was the anon who said Aaron would take it out on the readers for not liking the arc closure? He was dead right.
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>>88317678
Ok kc.
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>>88317751

>i only joked about that
>it actually happened

well, that sucks...
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>>88317494
Not that any of this matters now. Holly lovers will just say he's lying.

>ship ditto cloaked
>not gone
well, that's kind of pointless
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>>88317494
>>88317604

Seems reasonable to me. Holly really was too lost in the old world. Happy we are going to other protags now.
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>>88318117
Like Dottie, I'll bet the Rocket arc was the first time on the surface since the war. Pretty jarring.
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>>88318034
>Holly lovers will just say he's lying.

Ain't that the truth?, you have no idea how many times i pointed out doc warning holly as a sing of her being completely unstable from the beginning, just to be instantly shut down and being called a waifufag.
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>>88317494

> "BTW Jim was a bad man, you don't know why but trust me"
> Original ending was more interesting and better
> Kirbee is admittedly the current chosen one of the author
> Ramblings how he does something new and creative in the webcomic as an proof that he's right and readers are wrong.

Take a break, Aaron. Seriously man... you're making the situation even worse.
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>>88318213
Because comics that slavishily cater to the readers are uniformly excellent. Just ask Tumblr.
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>>88318270

I never said that. I'm just saying his explanation is asinine cause webcomics did feature tragedy and suicide. It's nothing NEW. He tries to sell it off as something new and comes off like "I'M TRYING TO CREATE SOMETHING NEW HERE, YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND MY GENIUS."
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>>88317751
>>88317860
It seems more like he is tired of both Hollyfans and Kirbeefans. Hollyfans think he is a monster for killing their "beacon of hope", Kirbeefans are too enthusiastic and won't shut up about her (reminder that they also sent him LOVE LETTERS FOR KIRBEE).

And he seems to be tired in general after all the work that has been accumulated and his health problems. He would've already turned into a cranky old man if he wasn't such a nice person.
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>>88318210
That's because you did it while taunting them. A good point is diminished if you don't use the correct tone for it.
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>>88318213
>Original ending was more interesting and better
Now I'm disappointed, holy shit /co/ you are the worst.
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>>88318467
>That's because you did it while taunting them.

>discussing a character
>taunting them

they were normal discussions, that were being constantly crashed with waigufagging accusations, people gets touchy when people talks about their waifus critically, no matter the character.
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>>88289933
This, also lets not forget when this happened. Most relationship, even healthy ones, would be pretty strained after shit like this.
Especially considering wallys past trauma.
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>>88318636

fuck her, she got off easy.
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>>88317494

>allows readers to empathize with everyone

Yeah, no...
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>>88318432
>It seems more like he is tired of both Hollyfans and Kirbeefans. Hollyfans think he is a monster for killing their "beacon of hope", Kirbeefans are too enthusiastic and won't shut up about her (reminder that they also sent him LOVE LETTERS FOR KIRBEE).

that last part was just for hollyfags only, if anything he's actually very appreciative of all the positive reception kiree is getting. he said it himself, he's sad she will be gone for more than a year.
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>>88289429
She's Chris Pike living with her Vina, only she's existing as a living memory instead of a disfigured human given the illusion of beauty.
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>>88318213
>"BTW Jim was a bad man, you don't know why but trust me"
He is literally a nazi by another name. He was only ever kind to Sarah, who was a fellow nazi.
>Kirbee is admittedly the current chosen one of the author
Yep. He's definitely in love with her.
>Ramblings how he does something new and creative in the webcomic as an proof that he's right and readers are wrong.
He has a lot good points but he seems to be getting a bit ahead of himself. It is his story and he shouldn't change out it of fear of alienating the readers but he should also listen to what could be useul warnings about his storytelling not being entirely effective.

>>88318513
>Original ending was more interesting and better
I agree. It was surely more dark and full of despair but also more genuine. He also cut a lot of moments that would've made more sense of Holly's actions and ultimate fate.

The problem seems to be that he's juggling with conflictive ideas. He wanted to tell a story where a beloved character breaks down and disappears, no matter how much people loved her, to simulate how it happens in real life. At the same time, he introduced a character that represents a concept he loves and wanted her to be likable. -At the same time- he was trying to salvage other two characters that depended on the first one. He bit off more than he could chew and ended with something not quite effective.

Another factor is that he trusts too much on his own judge of character. He thought people people would hate Wally and Chic for not managing to save Holly instead of sympathizing with their tagedy and flaws. He thinks people understand Holly and Kirbee's actions and motivations better than we actually do, maybe overestimating both his readers and his own ability to portray them.

Let's be honest though, you don't like that version because it doesn't have Kirbee.
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>>88319671
>Let's be honest though, you don't like that version because it doesn't have Kirbee.

Not him, but i am a kirbeefag and i liked the original version better, and i hate this one. Truth be told, i don't see how having Kirbee around would have changed everything the way it did, to me, Aaron's not being completely honest, and the only reason he decided to change the ending was to not piss people off.
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>>88317494
"h-holly's an interdimensional ship captain and warrior, she'll be useful!!!" fags btfo
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>>88319808
Yet he managed to piss everyone off, which is impressive.
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>>88319930
Hollyfags in general BTFO. With out without Kirbee she wasn't going to last.
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>>88319808
having kirbee around meant wally gets to walk away with some glimmer of hope rather than just being alone with Chic who he doesnt really seem to have ever interacted with. Holly still wouldn't have made it with Wally and their relationship still would have been doomed.
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>>88319980
But she would have had a better ending. Also, stop feeding replies to the troll or it'll never go away. It's only funny now that it's targeting Hollyfags.
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>>88319980

>B BUT!! AARON IS MAKING US DISLIKE HOLLY TO FORCE KIRBEE INTO THE STORY!!

Holly was always a terrible fucking person, this ending was too good for her.
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>>88320085
how would she have had a better ending? or are you just a "aaron is lying!!! hes just desperate to make us like a character he only kept around because we liked!!" fag?
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Kirbee had to live with assholes for goodness knows how long.
I say let her have the kitty and be happy.
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>>88319671
>He thought people people would hate Chic for not managing to save Holly
Chic is a fucking child while Holly is a grown ass woman.
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>>88320032

my point is that we could have had literally the same ending, but with kitbee around to support chic and help Wally get over Holly's death.
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>>88320195
Both Wally and chic will be breastfed; Kirbee's a nurturer...
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>>88319671
>he should also listen to what could be useul warnings about his storytelling not being entirely effective.

>He wanted to tell a story where a beloved character breaks down and disappears, no matter how much people loved her
>Let's be honest though, you don't like that version because it doesn't have Kirbee.
in other words
>stop doing things i dont like and do more things i do like
kys
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>>88319808
He's not being completely honest... to himself. That last statement is also directed to Aaron. The current version was made to include Kirbee and while he did his best, the orginal was all about the interactions between the other three so she ended up causing as many problems as she solved simply by being another element.

>>88320032
>Chic who he doesnt really seem to have ever interacted with
That is in part because because Kirbee took his place in many key moments.
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>>88320317
key moments like trying to beat him over a decapitated plasticized head right? o wait

well im sure he'd have warmed up to her anyway right
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>>88320142
Making strawmans makes you look more like an ass than the people you're mocking, you know? I was talking about the original ending.

>>88320192
Exactly. Aaron thought we wouldn't understand that, for some reason. That we would blame Chic for not opening up to her.
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>>88319671
>He wanted to tell a story where a beloved character breaks down and disappears, no matter how much people loved her, to simulate how it happens in real life. At the same time, he introduced a character that represents a concept he loves and wanted her to be likable. -At the same time-
This.
This is exactly the problem with the ending.
Giving Wally a fall-back pussy diminishes the effects that Holly's "death" was supposed to have.
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>No matter how bad you may get, at least you'll never be a Hollyfag
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desu I think both endings are pretty terrible, especially with Aaron stroking himself off over how edgy and ground breaking he is for having bad things happen to his characters.
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>>88320269
I'm not a hollyfag. I would have been fine with her death and I also like Kirbee. I'm just the story could've been done better.
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>>88320510
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>>88320468
>Giving Wally a fall-back pussy diminishes the effects that Holly's "death" was supposed to have.

she didn't die though, so there's no effect to be had.
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>>88320510
Except he's totally right. Tons of webcomic artists are too scared about their fanbases flipping their shit to kill off a character like Holly that's been around and loved for years.
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>>88320371
I honestly don't understand what you mean.
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>>88320545
Yeah. Aaron really dropped the ball.
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>>88320530
He's really milking this.
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>>88320598
Is it really milking when said tears are offered so willingly?
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Why does such a politically moderate, old-fashioned serial comic attract one of the most insufferable fanbases in /co/?
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>>88320657
waifufags
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>>88320551
This. I hate to see a comic artist abandon his plans because of fan pandering. The short term hate they get is nothing compared to the negative impact an unfulfilled plot has.
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>>88320657
Because it also attracted furfags and waifufags.
And then started a love triangle, causing the already insufferable waifufags to become even worse.
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>people discussing the ending where a character was written off

>WAIFUFAGS!!
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>>88320545
>>88320596
She's not with Wally so she might as well be dead!
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>>88320724
We don't call them waifufags for that and you know it. Everyone knows it.

Your trolling is weak. I get more butthurt replies every thread and I don't even try.
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>>88320724
>people discussing the ending where a character was written off
>acting as if she were dead
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>>88320545
Holly's "departure"
Same difference
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>Holly shitter have been the sole source of waifufaggotry in endtown threads for years and directly led to the low quality of discussion today
>Somehow surprised, and mad, that everyone is making fun of them now that they've been BTFO and are threatening to leave
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>>88320032
>>88320317
Not only key moments, she pretty much hasn't let Wally interact with Chic at all.
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>>88320899
>kirbee is the reason wally hasnt done anything with chic

ok anon.
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>>88320864
>1 year later, someone will make the exact same post but for Kirbeefags
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>>88320800
Ditto. A couple mundane comments and everyone was down my throat. This thread is one big exposed nerve.
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>>88318852
It seems Aaron doesn't realize other people will not always judge characters as he does or as he wants to (see: Allie and Jim).
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>>88320937
1 year later Kirbee probably still won't have resurfaced. These story arcs are really long. I hope you're strapped in.
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>>88318536
No, you did. The problem is that you can only see their flawed attitude and not yours. How ironic.

Did I sound rude? That's exactly how you did. Don't treat your point like a flawless fact (people don't like it, specially if it challenges their own) and don't be condescending, no matter how right you are.
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>>88320519
*I'm just saying

Dammit.
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>>88320710

The problem is that the bleak ending made more sense. We already saw her jumping off once and was hold in place by pure luck by Wally.

If she were to disappear near the cliff like that, it would've been logical.

I just don't really like the attitude Aaron shows lately. It sounds a lot like

>>88320510

Is right with Aaron thinking he is the sole maker of a post-apocalyptic comic where characters die.
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>>88320937
We already did. He's just recycling comments about Kirbeefags now that Hollyfags are the easy target. Good thing nobody is falling for it.
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Don't mind me, just best gal coming through...
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>>88320916
It's criticism on the writing, not your precious waifu. Aaron simply didn't make Wally and Chic moments.
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>>88321296
Just having Holly suicide would have been too... easy? Predictable? Both really. They live in a post apocalypse hellscape. Tons of characters surely did this off camera. This unique spin was a lot more interesting to read, frankly.
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>>88321296
You're kind of confusing me. Do you think the comic should be MORE edgy or LESS edgy? You suggest Holly should have died, but then you agree with the guy who says killing characters is just the author masturbating.
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>>88321347

Read it again, he would have leave it ambiguous... it actually was a good idea in a drama like this.

Either way... it doesn't matter, none of this matters. All I see is bile from Aaron about his readers and I feel like it's gonna carry into the writing more. Worse of all he seems to be so damn sure what he does is so revolutionary no one has done it before.

Arrogance is what kills off comics.
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>>88321347
>This unique spin was a lot more interesting to read, frankly.
We've had entire threads of people saying the opposite, what is it that you like about this version?
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>>88321191

>Did I sound rude?

not really, you are coming off butthurt over someone criticizing your waifu, actually.
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>>88321438
>bile from Aaron about his readers
Did you by chance mean bile about Aaron FROM his readers?
>Worse of all he seems to be so damn sure what he does is so revolutionary no one has done it before.
I've only scanned the thread, but where are you seeing this?

>>88321452
It's world-building. It's not the easy way out (literally speaking, for the author). It capped off a lot of what I assumed was random nonsense (Dittos, the flying ships). I'm not especially soft on characters, so rest assured I'm not just happy Holly is alive.
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>>88321418
I don't see how it's confusing. Both statements don't contradict each other and -he clearly says that he prefers the bleak ending-.

And the other guy didn't say Aaron is edgy for killing off characters, he says Aaron is being edgy for thinking it's impressive.
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>>88321558
>I've only scanned the thread, but where are you seeing this?
>>88317604
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>>88321558
>I'm not especially soft on characters, so rest assured I'm not just happy Holly is alive.
Could you rewrite that?
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>>88321481
Holly isn't even my waifu.
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>>88321692
Frankly, it sounds like bitter fans projecting sinister emotions onto him. His words can be taken a lot of ways, and if you're already entrenched against him for making choices you don't like, you're going to project a little.
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>>88321558
>It's world-building.
It's there in both versions. It's the thing they have most in common!

>It's not the easy way out (literally speaking, for the author)
How so? What is "the easy way out"?
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>>88321798
I'm saying I care more about the plot direction than if a character I like survives.
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Here's the bigger problem;

-You're all acting as if the story is over; quite the contrary, it's a single piece of a 500 piece jigsaw puzzle.

-Post Al & Gustines story, everything in Endtown is something put in motion by Marx.

-Marx fiddled the time stream to prevent WW3 from completely devastating the Earth.

-Marx prebuilt Endtowns in any reality that could sustain one.

-Marx gave Mallard dittoes and explained the multiverse to him, and it's implications.

-Marx set the events leading to the Milk Trial in motion to stabilize the political structure in Endtown

-Marx manipulated events to get Wally & Holly out of Endtown, and heading towards the ocean.

-Marx needed Wally to reach the coast, but Holly was a destabilizing element; enter another Lucranian ship (convinient, eh?)

ALL of this, as well as what's to come is getting all the parts in place for some endgame for Marx.

It doesn't matter if you like it, that's what's happening.
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>if last post Holly does become a multidimensional adventurer!
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>>88321970
Then why do you prefer the current version? The plot is confusing and it was made so a character could survive.
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>>88321756
All I'm seeing is he wants to make a comic worth discussing. Keep people on their toes and not write a big hug box of characters. Is the fact that he states this is his desire underhanded or arrogant? I don't really think so. He's right, too many comics don't make tough calls with characters.
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>>88322008

That's great, KC. It makes me care about the comic even less now I know everything is done by Marx.
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>>88322028
I only just now saw Aaron's post, and I haven't read the detailed notes about his former plans yet, sorry.
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>>88322008
>Marx set the events leading to the Milk Trial in motion to stabilize the political structure in Endtown
But that's completely the opposite of what it achieved. It CREATED political parties!
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>>88322124
LONG game, mon ami. Think Long Game results. If you know something COULD be a problem in the future, better to address it under controlled conditions so it does less damage.
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>>88322115
So basically, you didn't know what you were saying. Great.
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>>88322278
The fact that you're so embittered leaves me thinking you are too biased to have a real dialogue on this anyways.
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>>88322329
Says the guy making blind arguments.
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>>88322366
We make arguments based on the info we have. All I saw was someone suggesting Holly should have committed suicide. That's enough of a statement to comment on.
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>>88322008
>>88322190
I wonder how much one's ability to throw some critique at work you like, lessens when you suck-up to the author that much?
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>>88322329
>too biased

Welcome to the endtown threads, please have a seat.
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>>88322421
There's sucking up, and there's standing ground against irrational hate. I'm saying a lot of the latter in this thread.
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>if last post, all kirbeefags die
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>>88322393
Then comment on the statement, don't argue with stuff you don't know.
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>>88322008
>>88322063
>>88322124
This makes me care less, actually. That and your huge boner for shoving your "super secret plot knowledge" on these threads. Make me wonder why do you even bother coming here.
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>>88322486
That's exactly what I did. Follow the reply chain.
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>>88322467
>irrational hate
my dude, it's a thread on 4chan, about a comic on the internet
people will shit on something fervently, but calling it "irrational hate" is fucking stupid
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>>88322008
Aaron trusted you.
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>>88322467
>standing ground against
Oh no! Poor Aaron :( Please save him form the anonymous meanies, KC!
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>>88322050
>Is the fact that he states this is his desire underhanded or arrogant?
No he's arrogant for believing it's edgy.

>too many comics don't make tough calls with characters
Please, even Twokinds does it. TWOKINDS!
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>>88322489
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUSOlhhE_1Y
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>>88322526
I guess I've been spoiled by more civil threads. There's quite a few of those you wouldn't notice if not for the "internet hate machine" meme.
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>>88322572
Hey, it's you.
Youtube-posting anon. How you been, dawg?
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>>88322575
thanks to* rather.
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>>88322467

you are a fucking faggot.
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>>88322595
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Why DOES he still post here, /etg/? He can talk to Aaron, and Jamil, and any other artist by other means, in a more direct way.
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>>88322636
Because... HE'S ACTUALLY AARON MARX!!!
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>>88322636

he does, he just likes to attentionwhore
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>>88322509
You also said
>It's world-building. It's not the easy way out (literally speaking, for the author). It capped off a lot of what I assumed was random nonsense (Dittos, the flying ships). I'm not especially soft on characters, so rest assured I'm not just happy Holly is alive.
Without knowing anything you were talking about.
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