Transformers

>>88264648

There is an opening narration that tells you everything you need to know.

It is a generic good vs evil story; anyone can follow it.

>>88264648

It was just an excuse to have robots kill each other. And it's the last thing Orson Wells ever did.

>>88264648
I've never watched the show but love the movie, it's simple enough for you to get what's going on as long as you have a basic concept of what Transformers is about.

Fucking love this movie.

>>88264648

The stuff that won't make sense in the movie won't make sense even if you watched the first 2 seasons of the cartoon that led up to it.

>WTF are the Quintessons and why do they do any of the things that they do?
>WTF is Unicron and where did he even come from and why does he hate the Matrix?
>WTF is the Matrix and where did it come from because no one ever mentioned it before?

All those things were made up for the movie and didn't get explained until the season that came after the movie. So you're fine jumping into the film completely cold.

Yeah, great movie
Hopefully it gets you to watch the show as well, but probably not since it had significantly less impressive animation

>>88264648

Watch GI Joe the Movie after this. It's the ideal double feature.

>>88264648
I think the movie takes place 20 years or so after the tv show, it's fine.

>>88266475
He won't feel bad about all those dead Autobots, if so inclined anyway.

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>>88264648
I find it crazy that this was the last film Orson Welles ever made. Dude kinda deserved better..

>>88268158
Voicing a giant alien robot planet that has an ego larger than the stars and devours other planets?

He never had it so good, or so accurate.

>>88268453
Elvis is Primus

Autobots good. Decepticons bad. There, you're set, have fun.

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>>88268453
...point taken

>>88264648
All you need to understand is that they're instruments of destruction

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>>88264648
The animated Transformers movie is a 90 Minute Vince Dicola animated music video.

Just kick back and enjoy it OP!

get ready for a top tier 80's movie

>>88268476
Uh huh.

>>88269022
You ain't nuthin' but a Hound.

>>88264648
the autobots are kinda lame, id rather watch a movie about megatrons transformation into galvatron

>>88264648

A fucking amazing 80's movie, with a balls out rockin' soundtrack.

>>88264981
The narration is only is some versions.

>>88264648
One shall stand, one shall fall

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Arcee will be your robo-waifu

>>88273115
Huh. I've never seen a version without it.

"It is the year 2005..."

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>>88273204
Man, fuck Arcee.

Half the one-shot femmebots from that one episode where all hotter than her. Arcee's only asset is notoriety.

>Moonracer is my robo-waifu, all year, every year

>>88265475
The GI Joe movie was absolute shit aside from the amazing opening.

>>88273347
And now I realize I should have spoilered all of that since OP said he hadn't seen it. I'm not at all used to being careful when it comes to movies from the 80s.

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>>88273392

>>88264648
Spoilers, but Ironhide was one of my favorites in the cartoon and they straight up executed him. And Prowl, Brawn AND Ratchet. It was like a scene out of the damned Godfather, in a kids' cartoon!

Starscream was my favorite period and he got straight fucking obliterated. Probably the most brutal shit I'd seen at that point in my life.

Optimus Prime had an entire scene where he passes away in a hospital.

I fucking LOVED it. I love that movie.

>>88273467
As a Soundwave fan, I applaud that this movie game him a catchphrase.

I used to rent the movie religiously from the local video store, but didn't watch it for good 20 years after that. I recently came back to it fearing the film might have aged poorly or perhaps sucked the whole time without my tiny child brain knowing but, surprise, it was better than I remembered.

>>88273243
That narration is in all versions.

I thought you were talking about the opening Star Wars-esque crawl that explains the whole thing. On some versions that's in place of the opening credits.

>>88273467
You forgot to mention how they had a memorial to all the dead Autobots which they later rammed into a sun.

It's been almost 30 years since I first saw this film, but man, this opening still gives me chills.

Has any other /co/ related villain ever had an introduction as impactful as this? Unicron just floats through space to one of the most ominous, yet mellow pieces of music ever written, a proceeds to just inhale an entire planet of living beings, tearing it apart and sucking into that glowing mouth. And there was absolutely nothing anyone could do about it. One guy just barely escapes, and the others that tried to flee just get sucked in anyway.

And he never says a word. No grand speeches, no proclamations, he just shows up and eats everyone.

I can't think of any other villain that made their standing as an utterly overwhelming cosmic force known in such a direct manner.

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>>88275374
Forgot pic.

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Everyone has the 30th Anniversary edition right? With the 4k restoration?

Watching the little documentary on the blu-ray they say that the koreans, or whomever, that did all the backgrounds actually did them in too fine a quality for back in the day. So the blu-ray literally has a better picture than seeing it in theaters back in 1986.

>>88275467
This aged well.

I'll tear out your optics!

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>>88273138
>AFTER ALL IS SAID AND DONE

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>>88275467
I sounded like some kind of super shill there. My bad.

>>88264648
BAD COMEDY

>>88275899
Shilling for Transformers the Movie and G1 is shilling for the Lord, son. Continue to proselloutize with my blessing.

>>88275601
>DARE! DARE TO BELIEVE YOU CAN SURVIVE!

>>88273571
I love that the catchphrase is still used
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Lu6_8RsuNc

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this is our future, this is titan coming back around.

>>88275467
>>88275899
I bet these scenes were animated by Toei. No way it was done by a non-Japanese studio.

>>88264648
The eric idle shit ruined the whole movie.

>>88276079
>GUILTY OR INNOCENT?
>INNOCENT

>>88273571
>Renting the movie on VHS
It's been a long time


ITS THE END OF THE ROAD
GALVATRON

>>88273467
The best part was that no one died during the entire run of the TV Show up until that point, then they killed so many characters in the Movie.

>>88277408

Remember when all of the 'bots dying scared so many kids they pussied out of killing Duke in GI Joe?

Is it wrong that I memorized both The Touch and Dare, and sing along with them during the movie? Because if so, I'm never being fucking right again.

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>>88264648
>I haven't watched the show?

>>88264648
It was my introduction to the show, so you will. It's easy to follow.
>Autobots and Decepticons still at war
>Optimus set up an earth base
>Megatron set up a space base
>Both sides gathered more forces

That's pretty much it.

>>88268158
His voice is the perfect Unicron voice, though. I hear it whenever Uni's in a comic.

>>88277459
Fucking pussies ruining my childhood. AND THEY'RE STILL DOING IT. When will the pussification end??

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>I BELONG TO NOBODY!!

>>88277780
When you realize cartoons are aimed at children.

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>>88277547
No, the entire soundtrack is top notch, I listen to it on a regular basis

>>88277943
More accurately they tried to aim the 1986 Transformers are more college aged fans. It didn't pay off financially and backfired even worse with the parents who took their little kids to see it.

After THAT they pretty much aimed for the kiddies. Even when TFP was well received by older fans Hasbro changed course and made their next show far more kiddified.

>>88278064

Doesn't the Weird Al song kinda stand out a little bit?

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>>88278064
>Tfw can't listen to Death of Prime without getting a bit damp in the optics
>Tfw saying lines while singing along with the songs
>Tfw doing the whole "PRIME!" "ONE SHALL STAND, ONE SHALL FALL." "WHY THROW YOUR LIFE AWAY SO RECKLESSLY?" "THAT IS A QUESTION YOU MUST ASK YOURSELF, MEGATRON" during The Touch
>Tfw remember every lyric in every song

>>88277833
>Nobody summons Megatron
>Then it pleases me to be the first

>>88278259
The whole Eric Idle, Junkions shit stands out. It's fucking awful.

This is literally the worst fucking movie if you've ever watched the show, like I did.

For one thing, literally every single episode of the show was

>Shit happens
>DECEPTICONS, ATTACK
>Transformers fight
>DECEPTICONS RETREAT

Literally every single fucking episode.
Megatron was the worst leader, which was pretty apparent on the outset, but was also underlined by how literally
EVERY
SINGLE
ONE
of his underlings, minus Soundwave, Shockwave, and I think the constructicons (it's been a while, forgive me if my facts are muddy) basically questioned his leadership and belittled him at every turn.
Point is, the decepticons were fuck-ups through and through. After however long the series went, there was nothing left to fear about them

And then the movie starts with the Autobots losing SO FUCKING BAD that they're stuck on a single base in the middle of nowhere.

FUCKING WHAT

HOW

Why don't we get to see that shit?

In still amazed they had a completely out of nowhere musical number in the garbage planet and it was fucking great

>>88265086

Creation matrix was in the original Marvel comics in the first 10 issues, I think. The movie just made it an orb thing instead of a computer program module.

>>88278387
Fuck off.

>>88278345
Gee should've thought tv-budget children cartoon wouldn't be a magnum opus if the medium plus the movie had a shit ton of rewrites

>>88278421
No you

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>>88278345
I don't care, I watched the show and I always only liked Decepticons (literally only had toys of Decepticons ever) so this movie was the shit to me, fuck Autobums, I love seeing them die in the intro of this movie

Also, from a meta standpoint....we all know why Decepticons always lost in the show, they had to or else the series would end because they'd kill everything. We also know why they were allowed to win in the movie, to make room for the new cast.

>>88278345
Law of averages senpai

>>88277408
The best part is all those characters who technically died, but didn't since the scenes depicting their deaths weren't in the film or got revived later for reasons. Gears was a casualty at one point, but that was in an earlier script.

-Shockwave: Unicron crushed him when he slammed his hand down on Cybertron
-Reflector trio: Same as Shockwave
-Coneheads: Seen in the film, but the show probably didn't get the memo, like the Insecticons
-Trailbreaker: His corpse is seen while the Decepticons retreat, but this was cut from the flim
-Mirage: After killing Bombshell (and yes, the scene confirmed he straight up killed him since it mentioned he was lifeless as he was carried to the shuttle), Megatron shot him. With Megatrons gun suddenly capable of killing folks, this isn't hard to believe. Since the scene was cut, it explains bombshell still being barely alive on the shuttle.
-Red Alert: Killed when he, tracks, and Ultra Magnus tried to take out Devastator, but was shot by the constructicons while retreating.

>>88278323
> The dialogue in the 80's kids cartoon is more adult than anything in Bay's movies.

Contrast:
"That's a question you should ask yourself Megatron"

With:

"Give me your face!"

>>88275467
That opening is Lovecraft as fuck.

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>>88277943
>When you realize cartoons are aimed at children.
Oh, boo hoo. I WAS a child when I saw this!

I was like 10 the first time I watched Transformers the Movie in the 90s and it was fantastic! Why do we have to cater to the prissiest little bitch crybaby kids? I know there are still kids out there that cryo-freeze their action figures in a glass of water and say they were frozen in carbonite, or strap firecrackers to 'em because that toy died in battle.

Maybe if more cartoons didn't shy away from this sort of thing we wouldn't have the Barney the Dinosaur generation on their moral crusade today.

Shit, could we even get away with the last musical number of Brave Little Toaster today? I bet not. It's sad. Oh well, I'll always have the memories.

>>88275467
>4k meme

VHS master race

>>88278729
>TFw lost my VHS of this movie
Watching it in Blue Ray is nice
BUT IT'S NOT THE SAME

>>88275412
Fun fact: Simon Furman did his origin of Unicron in the UK Marvel comic without consulting Hasbro and just went and did it.

>>88278566
>-Coneheads: Seen in the film, but the show probably didn't get the memo, like the Insecticons
I thought they were just heavily damaged when Optimus sprayed them down, not shot to hell and gone like the Autobots in the shuttle.

>>88264648
It won't make sense even if you watched the show, but if you're watching it for plot you're watching it wrong.

>>88278780
They were, then you see jets with their colors fighting Unicron and being destroyed.

>>88268158
It's a quality film. I think it's a fine end for him honestly.

>>88268158
His bored disinterest perfectly fits a Lovecraftian ancient God who gives no fucks.

>>88278868
How like Welles to give a fantastic final performance in total spite of himself.

Okay, no, I'm not fucking done.

Imagine you're 12 in 1986. You're about to watch the Transformers movie. You love Transformers. You've bought all the toys you could. You can't wait to see what schemes Megatron will concoct, and what grand fights Optimus Prime will command.

It starts with new characters. You don't know who Hot Rod or Kup or Ultra Magnus are, but that's okay, the show brought in characters that were never mentioned before or since too. Whatever. So long as all the original gang is there, and lo and behold, they are!

Exactly long enough to get SLAUGHTERED TO FUCKING DEATH.
FUCKING EVERYONE
EVERY character you have ever loved and bought the toy of.
Killed in an unusually brutal manner.
Autobot and Decepticon alike. What the fuck is going on?
The movie's only barely started, and OPTIMUS PRIME IS FUCKING DEAD.
FUCK THIS SHIT.

By the end of the movie, you don't know who anyone is or what anyone is fighting for. Megatron is still there (Reformatted into Galvatron, but whatever), so you assume Optimus Prime is going to come back by the end of the movie too. Probably with an awesome new look, everything will be all right.

FUCKING NOPE.
THE FUCKING WHINY ASS KID ROBOT IS THE NEW LEADER.
WHAT THE FUCK.
NOT EVEN THE GUY WHO LOOKS LIKE HE'D FIT THE PART, THE SHITTY ASS SPEEDSTER.
FUCK.

It's okay though, Galvatron is still here, and--nope, he's now dead too.

It's alright, maybe they'll take the show in a new direction! Maybe the new toys are cool!

So we go over to the Toys R Us to see what the new characters look like, and yeah nope. Pic related.
Fuck this. Fuck everything. Half the fun of Transformers back then was that the robots turned into *real* cars and trucks (except for the ones that didn't, but whatever). What the fuck are these things? They all look like ass!

And that's the story of how I lost my innocence at age 12.

>>88278646
I don't know what you're talking about.

"Give Me your face" is one of the best lines ever uttered in any Transformers anything ever

>>88278894
See? This one survived. More kids would.

I was pretty much the same way, younger even when I saw this in the early 90s, and I couldn't have been more hyped at the direction they took. It's one of my fondest childhood moments. The thing that fucked me up was the end of Lufia 2.

Oh and Galvatron didn't die. He just got flung someplace.

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>>88278894
In my incoherent rage, I forgot my pic.

The movie tie-in transformers were seriously, no hyperbole, some of the worst transforming robot toys ever made.

Things DID get better, and old characters did come back, and since then, there's been so many iterations of Transformers it's hard to feel anything when Optimus Prime dies anymore, but man, at that time, it fucking sucked.

>>88279011
Jesus. Literally worse than a Gobot. That's just sad.

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>>88278894

I liked the direction the movie took, as a kid who saw it in the thearter. I also liked Rodimus and Hotrod.

>>88278894
>>88279011
Dave Willis, is that you?

>>88278729
I still have the VHS, DVD and now the blu-ray. It is superior.

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>>88278894
>>88279011
All hail Megatron

>>88278894
> Be reading the second Transformers UK Annual.
> Read the comic stories and ignore the text only stories.
> Eventually read "State Games", thinking it will be meh.
> Mind Blown. It's awesome.
> That text story, tucked away in a TD annual, becomes one of the most influential parts of TF canon.

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>>88279089
>Eh, what'd he say his name was?
>Galvatron.
>LONG LIVE GALVATRON! GALVATRON! GALVATRON!

>>88279011
And they had no fucking die-casts.

I fucking loved die-casts.

There was a kid at school who was the envy of everyone when he came in with Soundwave and showed it off.

Soundwave was hard to get in the UK so I was jealous as fuck.

My brother got Deceptions, I got Autobots, as we competed to build our armies.

>>88278646
In fairness, Michael Bay can only wrote at a 3rd grade level to begin with.

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"Unicron, I've come to bargain."

/tg/ here, how would I do a transformers RPG?

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>be me growing up
>Parents are overprotective with TV and refuse to let me watch anything they think is violent
>no anime, no action cartoons
>no Transformers
>2007
>Michael Bay movie comes out
>Parents for some reason think it looks good
>They force me to see it instead of better movies
>I loved it because I was a naive dumbass
>Become obsessed with Transformers toys
>One year later
>Find the 1986 movie at a rental store
>it blows my fucking balls off
>Can never enjoy any live action Transformers again
>Start watching G1 and Animated

And that's how this movie saved me from growing up as a jackass.

My parents stopped being hardasses with TV and movies eventually too.

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>>88279056
Here's a hint!

>>88279049

when Peter Cullen learned of the emotional reaction of children after Optimus' death scene in the movie, he swore he'd never do another death scene performing as Optimus so long as was he voicing Optimus.

>>88279468
And then he did it like sixteen more times.

Because in the year 2016, dying and coming back is like half of Optimus's character.

>>88278699
Change your diaper, old man. I was six when I saw it and it was fine. My younger brother freaked out a bit.

>>88279468
Instead, he's be dealing out the death and giving Deceptions facials.

>>88279406
Maybe set on Cybertron in Iacon and you play as a recruit to the Wreckers.

> Bay has stupid comedy robots but not Runamuck and Runabout, literally two psychotic Bevis and Butthead vandals.

You'd think R&R would be right up Bay's alley.

>>88264648
It would arguably make more sense if you haven't watched the show. That way you have no attachment or precedent for what happens before.

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>>88279568
I have nurses for that, whippersnapper.

>>88279743
Jesus, Kup, he's your PRIME now, not your nanny.

>>88279743
Good ole Shitpiece.

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>>88279905
old robot shitpiece!
only $9.99!

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>>88275899
This thread is the first time I've ever heard a dissenting opinion towards this movie.

Unicron transforming is pure awesome even now.

>>88280479
How all the little bits and pieces fold away, and how the continent-sized hunks of robot start unfolding in that one wide shot, everything about it is fucking great.
I wonder when 3p companies are gonna start making fuckhuge Unicrons with slavish detail?

>>88279406

Traditional turn based RPG with a dynamic looking screen ala Grandia 2 or Wild ARMS 3. Cel shaded graphics, CHUG/G1-ish/IDW designs.

>>88279407
how old are you?

>>88279407
>Growing up
>2007
ugh.

>>88280562
I think he means pen and paper but I'm not sure.

Anyone got the touch?

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>>88280658
We can't all be 90s kids. Unless you guys are 80s kids. Hi grandpa, how's your Reaganomics?

>>88280681
Got the power.

>>88280672

Oh, in that case, die pool based system similar to Exalted (or other former White Wolf games), except capping dice pools at a reasonable number (10-15) and using bonus successes/removing successes as positives/negatives to the final result, and having a wide ranging system in place to cover both 'bot mode stuff and alt mode stuff, along with traditional 'bot powers like teleporting/energy shields/etc.

>>88280479
>>88280520
Today that would all be cheap plastic chunky shit looking CGI. Hope fades.

> Have back to the wall.
> Still get hit.

STAN BUSH YOU FUCKING LIAR!

>>88280249
That's amazing to me.

The concenting opinion, as far as I've always known, was that the movie was pretty, and the music was great in a VERY You-had-to-be-there kind of way, but the story is nonsense and the movie is responsible for ruining many a childhood.

Also, it's basically single-handedly responsible for the "Dark age", as what came immediately after was the absolute nadir of popularity through the rest of the 80s and early 90s, until Beast Wars caused it to blip slightly, and the '07 movie brought it firmly back into the spotlight.

>>88280785
It should have been clear to you from the song, anon, but you do not have The Touch.

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>>88280848
>but the story is nonsense and the movie is responsible for ruining many a childhood
But it kicked ass. It was like Heavy Metal for kids!

>>88276094
YOU HOLD THE FUTURE IN YOUR HANDS

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>FOR A TIME, I CONSIDERED SPARING YOUR WRETCHED LITTLE PLANET, CYBERTRON. BUT NOW...YOU SHALL WITNESS...IT'S DISMEMBERMENT!!!

>>88280848
>but the story is nonsense
This is how you know people don't bother to pay attention to what they're watching. The plot couldn't be simpler or more straight forward, no different than any sort of standard fantasy adventure with a sacred relic needed to destroy a great evil.

I was probably 6 or 7 when I first saw this movie, had not watched much of the show beforehand, and I was not lost at all. But people today seem to take it as an offense if they don't understand everything about a film before they've even watched it.

>>88281025
Considering how many shots those Autobots managed to get off and they failed to hit a single Decepticon while all dying in the process, that was a pretty bullshit way for them to go out.

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>>88281218
DIE, AUTOBOTS!!

>Iron birds of fortune, adrift above the skies.
>Cloudy revelations, unseen by naked eyes.
>Flying tools of torment will penetrate the sphere.
>Erupt the rock of ages, bringing final fear!
>INSTRUMENTS OF DESTRUCTIONNNNN!

>>88281344
They were ambushed. The Decepticons had better cover and heavily outgunned them. It was a doomed fight, and they died like dogs. I see no problem at all with it. Just because they're good guys doesn't mean they can even begin to overcome those odds.

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>>88281344
Better than getting killed off screen.

>>88281687
Hah! I didn't even notice they killed Wheeljack! I thought he was with Bumblebee and their group. Cold as ice, Hasbro!

>>88281025
BRINGING FINAL FEAR

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>>88281025
>It was like Heavy Metal for kids!
I thought Heavy Metal was Heavy Metal for kids. I still remember staying up really late and sneaking into the living room to watch it on HBO or Showtime I forget which.

>>88281638
The Decepticons had just as much cover as the Autobots did. They just listed slowly to the left and avoided all Autobot fire which exploded behind them.

>>88281750
Long standing joke is that Wheeljack was showing Windcharger his latest invention to stop the Decepticons and end the war when it predictably exploded and killed them both.

Which frankly is how Wheeljack was destined to go out one day.

>>88281902
Call me crazy, but the bare tits, fully animated sex scenes, and coke snorting give me the feeling that it wasn't intended for kids.

>>88281936
The ones that were fired upon most had the breach in the shuttle and debris to take cover behind, the autobots had chairs. And nothing changes the fact that they were outnumbered, heavily outgunned, and caught by surprise. Even if they'd winged one of the Constructicons it wouldn't have mattered, they were screwed.

>>88282092
Yeah, I know. I enjoyed it, though. Well, except the ending, that was bullshit. But the rest was quality entertainment.

When will we realize not all kids need boring sterile sing along hug box shit where nothing ever changes and everything's okay? Well, there's always sneaking into R rated movies I guess.

>>88282121
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umwZ8qVorwo

The very first things the Cons did was pile through the breach. Both sides just lobbed shots, especially Ratchet. What the Cons DID have was about a two foot high ground advantage, which if you've seen Star Wars is all you need to win.

>>88282209
>What do you mean, we rolled nothing but 1s?!

>>88282209
Heh, yeah. Ratchet went all akimbo and didn't hit shit. What a shock.

Anyway, I just don't see the point of having Ratchet or Ironhide land a head shot or something when the point of the scene was that they were completely overwhelmed and didn't stand a chance. The whole point was to illustrate the fact that the attack on Autobot City was going to be serious business, the mother of all G1 battles. Which it was.

>>88282297
>Prowl gets blown the fuck out by a Constructicon
>in IDW he's basically turned them into his private fanboy club

Prowl got his revenge for that moment, alright.

>>88275467
Fuck I can hear the soundtrack in my mind

>>88282354
>>88282297
The Decepticons had something even better than high ground or good dice rolls. They made perfect use of animation errors, suddenly being back inside the breach when the Autobots were shooting but otherwise just standing around the rest of the time.

>>88282354
Oh it was totally plot mandated. Autobots got stomped, later the Decepticons, well, they weren't even dead when they were chucked out of Astrotrain. And then the movie and season 3 couldn't even remember who was supposed to be dead half the time, never mind who was Cyclonus and who was his single-dude armada.

>>88277833
>Then proceed... on your way to oblivion

>>88282490
Good lord Kup was cool. And this coming from the kid that usually rooted for the bad guys.

>>88282494
It is the year 2005 and suddenly shots actually kill people unless you're a new character like Ultra Magnus in which case you just get slapped back together and polished.

Then after the movie all gun power levels were reset to tickle mode.

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>>88282576
>AAAHAHHHHRRGH I accept your terms! I accept!

>>88281902
If it was on HBO, it wasn't for kids

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>>88282667

>>88282490
>gets one line in the movie
>coolest fucking line ever

>>88282800
>And now the news, don't touch that dial!

>>88282490
That scream Daniel gives in this scene is the single worst bit of voice acting in the entire movie.

>>88282819
I like how much this line captures pretty much every old dad trying to sound hip with the kids these days.

>>88282861
I still find excuses to say, "Film at 11."

>>88282727
To be fair they fired the human actors and added a crack den to seasame street.

>>88282727
We didn't land of Fraggle Rock! Fraggle Rock landed on us!

>>88280681

yes, but i got some ointment and it cleared up.

>>88282727
>Boober, what do you think it's like... to die?

Anyone have the Transformers MEGA link? I would appreciate it

>>88279115
>tfw everyone goes OMG IDW/Aligned invented Megatron-as-a-revolutionary-with-legit-grievances
There are two kinds of Transformers fans: those who've read State Games, and plebs. Welcome to the winning team.

>>88283574
No, fuck you

>>88283574
https://mega.nz/#F!Ax4nUCCT!_5vN--HYA1R6ahJUNcx-wQ

>>88282529
I always loved that bit. It's the best kind of fanservice.

Always preferred Blaster wearing his visor, though.

>>88264648
>Will I get what's going on if I haven't watched the show?

Probably. They conveniently kill or sideline all the old characters, and it's set 30 years after the nearest preceeding episode.

>>88281183
why wasn't metroplex in this movie?

>>88277613
That's not his voice anon.
Not even close.
He was to sick and they had to use a synthesizer on his voice like they did Soundwave.

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>>88278323

>>88278323
You sir have impeccable taste. I can never remember the lyrics to Instruments of Destruction though.

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>>88278345
Not only that but blasters that use to just knock them back are now creating huge wholes in the body.
Also you have the bigger head scratches like where half the 85 team members are, and how Optimus Dies from a hole in his tummy when he got chop down to just a head and lived fine in the cartoon(twice). Actually that also begs questions about the matrix. Did they take it out or just leave it in Croc Prime?
I could go on but it was a kids cartoon aimed to sell toys so it's a given that it's trash

>>88287417
The film and season 3 were being made in parallel and apparently it was a scripting issue where you want his introduction to be noteworthy and they went with the mindset that people would watch the show regardless if they see the film so Metroplex first appearance was saved for the cartoon.

>>88287764
Wasn't just Prime, half the cast got blown up and put back together in the old cartoon. Hell Ultra Magnus does it in the film after Prime's death.

>>88287849
What about all the combiners besides Devastator? A movie fight with Superion and Menasaur would've been rad as fuck

>>88287956
Lore wise the Menasaur and Burticus were staging an ambush on Superion, Defenseor and Omega Supreme

real world it was dealing with an already bloated budget.

>>88278064
I still own this LP. Sadly I drew on it the cover a bit as a kid.

>>88278894
I was 10 in in 1986 and I freakin' loved it. But Kup quickly became my favourite Transformer of all time so that might have had something to do with it. And I didn't like Optimus in those days, so that helped, but was sad about Ironhide and those guys on the shuttle.

>>88282591
Same. As a kid I gave him a weird backstory that he used to be a Decepticon to get around that.

>>88284832
Thank you

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>>88278729
Betamax superior, VHS INFERIOR

https://youtu.be/CT6UlAvKz88

So how did OP like the movie?

Is it weird that I loved G1, loved this movie, and hate most other transformers series? yes even Beast Wars, which I watched almost the entirety of as a kid.

>>88282649
>Excellent

>>88282646
>PATHETIC FOOLS!! THERE'S NO ESCAPE!!!

>>88287873
Ah yes, but he was ripped into basic pieces. Not even ripped so much as popped out of joint. This is a very important distinction because it left his core components entirely intact! Just like if you took those same components and turned them into an alligator and literally armed a building!

No, it doesn't make any sense.

>>88278894
The whole thing was worst for me.

Not american, I saw the first two seasons when I was a 5/6 yo, in early ninety. Every day, same routine: I turnned up TV and then time to enjoy the same chapter that I was see for one hundred times.

Suddenly a day Megatron wes Galvatron, Optimus was dead, every else was dead and the new leader was a guy named Rodimus.

I never knew what happens until I was tweelve, when zapping in the Tv I found the movie. I was in shock.

>>88295090
>Not even ripped so much as popped out of joint.
Wouldn't that raise even further questions because that would mean to save OPs life you just need to pop off the head?

>>88268158
Man literally ate himself to death. Why, exactly, did he deserve better? A big part of being an artist is taking care of yourself so you can continue making good art. However much anyone may respect him (I think he was immensely talented), he ultimately had very little respect for himself.

https://youtu.be/VFevH5vP32s

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I'm watching through the show for the first time, and my favorite shit is how all these robots just kind of appear randomly in certain episodes with no origin. Astrotrain, the coneheads, Cosmos, Warpath, and so on.

>>88281025
This scene fucked me up.

>That episode where Starscream, his group along with Warpath and Hoist go back to medieval times
>that episode where the Decepticons got fucking wasted on energon
>That episode where an Atlantis-expy was discovered
>That episode where Spike's mind was transferred into a robot made of spare parts

This show is a lot weirder than I imagined it would going in...

>>88296108
>>88296287


Well, they were trying to push toys pretty hard. It's a goofy 80's cartoon all around.

>>88264648
It's Star Wars starring giant robots.

>>88296324

Well, yeah, I know. For some reason I always find it amusing when I'm watching an episode and a new Transformer is just there like we should know him. How many fucking Autobots were there even before the movie? At least thirty or so...

And yeah, but some of these episodes are just so mind-blowingly bizarre that I have to wonder what the writers were thinking when they wrote them.

>>88296390
>And yeah, but some of these episodes are just so mind-blowingly bizarre that I have to wonder what the writers were thinking when they wrote them.

"Cocaine is fucking awesome." I'd imagine, much like many people in the 80's. Also the whole show process was kind of a sweat shop enviornment IIRC.

>>88296287

>That episode where all of the Decepticons literally become invincible, but still fail to kill a single Autobot

Megatron is a shitty leader.

(Yes I know, kid's show, gotta sell toys and so on.)

>>88296721

Well, you're generally not going to see any killing in kids shows. Though after the movie, they did noticeably start using the words death, die, etc. Because they wanted a darker tone for the seasons after the movie.

>>88297113

I know. I literally said I know they wouldn't kill anyone because it's a kid's show. It was mostly a joke.

>>88264648
>YOU GOT THE TOUCH
>YOU GOT THE POW-WER!

>>88296287
The season three space travel is when it got really weird.

>>88297803

That was one of my favorite parts. The space stuff was pretty good in general.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFneCDleebs

>>88297838
>alien shouting mommy while tonguing monkey butt
Maximum lewd.

>>88297838

What the Hell happened to his voice? Frank Welker does Season 3 Galvatron, right? Why does he sound so different?

>>88298376
Leonard Nimoy voiced Galvatron in the movie, well he wasn't going to be employed on the series. Too expensive. Rather than do a Nimoy impersonation they just went with Galvatron being fucking nuts thanks to being stuck in a plasma bath since being hurled out of Unicron. Welker just gives him a crazy voice.

That's pretty much it.

>>88298376
Most people (aka fans) theorize that the death of Unicron drove him insane, and it's somewhat obvious if you watch it.

And it makes sense when you think about it. He was slowly descending into madness by the end of the film once he got the Matrix in his grasp. And once the person who gave him his newfound power died, any sanity he may have had would, understandably, be lost.

Behind the scenes, though, I think the voice direction just told Welker to "sound as non-Nemoy as possible."

>>88298498
>>88298457

Fair enough. I guess I'll just have to get used to it when I get that far. I've been enjoying Welker's Megatron voice so far.

>>88278699
>Why do we have to cater to the prissiest little bitch crybaby kids?
Because we don't want them growing up to be emotionally stunted borderline sociopaths?

>>88275374

Skeletor in Masters of the Universe comes damn close for nailing his character perfectly in the first ten minutes of his introduction. Lagella owned and still owns that role.

>>88277943
for all of human history up until less than a 100 years ago kids had to routinely kill stuff all the time just to survive. Kids on farms still do today and they're better adjusted than sheltered little fucks

>>88275374

I don't think another villain has had such a great introduction as him, honestly.

Where should I start if I want to get into the Transformers?

>>88300077
Don't. It's best to just turn 360 and run far away from the franchise.

>>88300077

The G1 series is the best place to start.

>>88300158
Comic or toon?

>>88300077
It depends on your preferences, both what type of entertainment you want and whether comic or cartoon.

>>88300168

Well, personally I'm more of a cartoon > comic kind of guy.

From what I understand, the comic is actually kind of quality, while the cartoon is a cheap, animation-error-filled mess that still manages to be charming.

A big part of being an artist is looking after yourself? What absolute shite, what are you even talking about. Guess Kurt Kobain and Van Gough were fucking garbage artists, fuck Da Vinci who wouldn't even bathe. fuck Frida Kahlo, Lucian Freud, and any other of the thousands of brilliant artists who abused substances, they were all doing it wrong according to this internet dipshit.

Do you even read what you write or you just slap your tiny dick against the keyboard? I'm surprised you can even breathe you inane fucking moron.

>>88264648

Optimus vs Megatron is one of the best fight sequences ever animated.

>>88297838
This is great

>>88268588
This...

>>88278064
This whole album is my pump up music.

>>88300077

G1 series, IDW comics, or both.

>>88278259
No, it does not.

>>88300398

It really is. I think my favorite part is when he makes a fucking laser gun in arts and crafts and tries to murder everyone.

G1 Galvatron was hilariously imbalanced.

>>88300077
Transformers Prime or Transformers Animated

>>88275467
I was confused as to how the guys on the planet new who Unicron was.

>>88300686
They heard about him. On the space internet.

>>88300377
how little is your exposure to good fight cinematography? past present and future there have been a lot better animated fight scenes many of which that were on TV

>>88297194
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZKpByV5764

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>>88282444
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4c-M4MP0GE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvWnF1Iggfc

More of Galvatron being an insane asshole to everything.

>>88300377

It's definitely one of my favorite childhood fights. And I don't know how platinum pulled it off but the final boss fight in Devastation vs Megatron felt so nostalgic of this battle I was grinning ear to ear whole time.

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>>88278103
>More accurately they tried to aim the 1986 Transformers are more college aged fans
>kids cartoon just under 3 year old having college aged fans
Do you just spew shit without thinking?
It was stated in all 3 "making of" documentaries of the film state that they killed off the robots for two reasons
1.An attempt to get a PG rating because back then that was what they needed to get more tickets (parents have to come with their kid, in the 80's it was quite common to drop your kid off at a theater and go shopping, this was before talk shows sensationalized child abduction/molestation). In irony it didn't work until they plunged a certain swearword in it.
2. Remove the old toy line. The mindset was to get kids to let go of and forget their old toys and make them latch on to the new. This was new ground for just about everyone in the industry so they had no idea kids would actually be that moved/upset that Prowl, and company get blown to bits.

Also the aim has been and always will be kids because that's what sells toys. Prime had weaker sales then previous series so they went more kid friendly and so far something is working because RiD is selling better then Prime did.

>>88301135
Prime was also fucking expensive to produce, RiD looks way way shittier because they specifically tooled it to not cost a fortune to make.

To their credit though, prime was a gorgeous show, probably one of the nicest looking CGI cartoon series ever made.

BTW, there's sort of an explanation of why the Decepticons were one shotting people in this film. The earlier draft points out that the Decepticons had energon to spare, but the Autobots didn't. Destroying Autobot City would end the war since it was a massive energy facility, and with it gone, the Autobots would be finished.

So basically, the reason so many characters died is because their weapons were at super low settings, while the bad guys had their weapons at max power.

>>88301972

That's absolutely ridiculous. Why wouldn't they have done that at any one point before the movie?

>>88301023
Really? I felt like I was being pandered too a little too hard there. I was like, 'Yeah, stop sucking my dick and do something else.'

>>88302047
They were scrapping for energy in the first two seasons.

>>88275467
>Everyone has the 30th Anniversary edition right? With the 4k restoration?
Is there a torrent for it? I don't physical media anymore. I could build a tomb out of all my old VHS and DVDs. I don't want anymore.

>>88302076

I recall a number of times where Decepticons had a lot of energy.

And are we supposed to believe that the Autobots couldn't just go "Hey, if you could spare some energy, it'd let us take down the evil Decepticons once and for all."?

>>88302047
I remember a fan theory posted a while ago assumed the Tranformers armor is weaker the less energon is in their system, that coupled with this>>88301972 might make the deaths in the movie make some sense.

It actually helps explain a few scenes in S3, the when Springer and Rodimus get bombarded by Decepticons that are low on Energon, but their weapons do nothing to the Autobots.

>>88302145
>And are we supposed to believe that the Autobots couldn't just go "Hey, if you could spare some energy, it'd let us take down the evil Decepticons once and for all."?

Given how wars are constantly fought in real life over oil and shit, I'm gonna guess no, human governments didn't want to feed the giant robots their resources.

>>88268453
my man

so why wasn't Omega Supreme in the movie? it's like he got written out or something

>>88303042

Because toys.

>>88275601
>>88273138
>Optimus coming in and wrecking the Decipticons HARD

So glorious, one of the greatest moments for an animated character ever.

>>88303200
Yeah. That scene was beautifully done. The music, the fight, the ending. That was the absolute peak of Optimus Prime as a character, and he's a classic.

Always loved this movie as a kid

Still love this movie to this day

So who here hasn't gotten hyped when they hear

the touch

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This movie is a collection of great scenes.

Fun to watch on youtube, but when you actually sit down to watch the full movie it just doesn't work. Too many abrupt cuts and jarring pacing problems due to all the cuts and deleted content, not to mention just the TV crew trying to make the jump to Movie and failing

So many scenes got cut leading the characters to be little more than cardboard cutouts and so many characters from season 1 and 2 simply disappear with no explanation.
Not to mention the new stuff that isn't explained like the Matrix or Unicron...

It's a bloody mess, and really is overrated by Transformers fans.

>>88304130
This sounds corny as shit, but when I was a little kid I used to think of that song whenever I was hyped up for something. It was a great way to psyche myself up. I'd think of this scene and feel a tiny bit invincible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7GeisRaias

Which is a little ironic, considering what happened.

>>88264648
I've only seen the movie and never watched the series, and I got what was happening.

>>88304265
But did you enjoy it?

>>88304869
Sure. I mean I was like 12. But sure.

>>88304232
I am not even a transformers fan, yet I love the shit out of this movie!

>>88298457

Didn't Welker say doing that voice was one of the hardest ones he ever did? Like literally there was times he threw out his voice when voicing Galvatron?

>>88302067

To each their own i guess. I was having a blast the entire game.

>>88305481

Given he was basically screaming with rage in near everything he said, I wouldn't be surprised if it was tough on him.

Galvatron was basically a fucking Angry Marine.

>>88264648
People that watched the show had no idea what was going on

>wtf is this giant planet eater fucking thing and how do these random robots know who it is but the Autobots don't
>wtf is this matrix of leadership, you'd think that would have come up before
>wtf are these new characters, Ultra Magnus is Optimus' old friend?! We've never even seen him before!

>>88279732
You may actually be on to something there.

>>88291289
My dad refused to get a VHS for years because it was inferior. He only gave in after we couldn't rent any videos and my mother couldn't borrow videos from colleagues for work.

>Starscream and Cobra Commander got ignominious treatment in the Tranformers and GI.Joe movie because Chris Latta was hard to work with, and probably dealing with the shady crap that led to his 90s death

One last resurrection, I was away from the internet for 2 weeks, did I miss any `TF storytimes or were there further delays?

>>88264981
>It is a generic good vs evil story; anyone can follow it.
Unless you're a critic from the 80s.

>>88278566
I always thought it was weird that Soundwave was one of Optimus' first victims in the film. He gets ran down and shot multiple times, yet is completely fine minutes later when rescuing Megatron. It's like they forgot they just killed him off.

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>>88300077
If you're literally clueless, watch the G1 S1-S2, then the movie.

After that, you're free to pick your own wave of TF shows to watch.

I'd recommend Beast Wars series, then Animated->Prime. Can't remember the japanese ones to be honest. Avoid the manga one.

For the comic series, it's a long ride but start at MTMTE Volume 1, then RiD Volume 1, read until they hit Dark Cybertron. Once after that, you can choose to read the older IDWs. Lots of continuity errors though but you'll do fine.

The Bay movies are pretty mediocre, two of which were horrible, other two were passable monster mash invasion movies. Love em but they're mostly babbies first TF post 2005.

>>88310828
Yes.

Check Revolutions in the archives

>>88311100
Thanks, have to read MTMTE Revolution and Revolution #5 to catch up. I guess the event is now over? Will... the guy who said he'd storytime it all wait till new year? I'll be home by then.

>>88281687

I think Japanese continuation of G1 spared Wheeljack, as he shows up in Victory alive and well.
Though for some reason he was a doctor in that one instead of an inventor.

>>88300377
Is this the only fucking action cartoon you've ever watched or something?